Re: [Cooker] Cooker Compile

2001-07-06 Thread Frederic Lepied

"Robert Shade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I love Mandrake, but I've also made my own LinuxFromScratch
> (www.linuxfromscratch.org).  While I like the speed increase I get when
> compiling from scratch.  I like the tools that come with Mandrake not to
> mention the ease of RPM package management. 
> 
> Could one of the cooker maintainers give me a simple howto to compile
> Cooker from the SRPMS.  I know how to compile SRPMS, but I was wondering
> what order I would need to compile them in or if the install program
> will even recognize *.i686.rpm's instead of the i586 ones.
> 

You can use rpm-rebuilder package which contains shell scripts to help
rebuild a set of packages.
-- 
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[Cooker] URL

2001-07-06 Thread Yura Gusev


Can you please add home page url to all your RPMS?

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[Cooker] failed dependencies:libgtk+2-devel-1.3.6-1mdk.i586.rpm

2001-07-06 Thread Salane King

/libgtk+2-devel-1.3.6-1mdk.i586.rpm
error:failed dependencies:
libglib2-devel is needed by libgtk+2-devel-1.3.6-1mdk
Installation failed




RE: [Cooker] Cooker Compile

2001-07-06 Thread Robert Shade

> To answer your question, I am not sure what you refer to as 'install 
> program'. 

The Mandrake Install program... I mean could you recompile the SRPMS,
but them in a directory on a separate HD, boot with the mandrake HD
bootfloppy image, and use them to install Mandrake?

Robert Shade
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Re: [Cooker] Cooker Compile

2001-07-06 Thread David Walluck

Robert Shade wrote:


> Could one of the cooker maintainers give me a simple howto to compile
> Cooker from the SRPMS.  I know how to compile SRPMS, but I was wondering
> what order I would need to compile them in or if the install program
> will even recognize *.i686.rpm's instead of the i586 ones.


This is an rpm specific question really.

Mandrake doesn't seem to provide an option to do this (but Debian might, 
someone let me know). What I'd love to have is the most minimal set of 
packages installed, the install would then download and compile the 
SRPMS according to your specified arch and optflags.

THis may not be too easily because frequently I grab an SRPM for cooker 
and it fails with a compiler error. Also compiling with certain options, 
especially -On, n > 2 can cause problems.

To answer your question, I am not sure what you refer to as 'install 
program'. You could for example, make your own depslist that urpmi can 
use to upgrade your system, but like I said, I don't think it handles 
sources.

What I suggest, is starting with an already installed mandrake system, 
simply add something like this to you ~/.rpmrc:

buildarchtranslate: i686: athlon
arch_compat: athlon: i686
buildarch_compat: athlon: i686
optflags: athlon -O3 -march=athlon

Of course in your case you may need to replace athlon with pentiumpro. 
i686 is the output of

uname -m.


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RE: [Cooker] [Contrib-Rpm] twig-2.7.2-1mdk

2001-07-06 Thread Don Head

> > Description :
> > PHP programming language. Our intention is that it become a simple,
> ^^^
> 
> "Our"?
> 
> Hmm, wouldn't it be better to be non-personal, ie. to say "The
> intention..."?

Probably.. now I'll have to figure out where that
description came from.  No one brought it to my attention
last time I updated this package, which was some time
ago. =P

(FYI, I am in no way affiliated with TWIG, I just update
the RPMs when I feel like updating the TWIG on my system
at home..)

I'll fix it and upload a new one in a minute or two.


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[Cooker] Cooker Compile

2001-07-06 Thread Robert Shade

I love Mandrake, but I've also made my own LinuxFromScratch
(www.linuxfromscratch.org).  While I like the speed increase I get when
compiling from scratch.  I like the tools that come with Mandrake not to
mention the ease of RPM package management. 

Could one of the cooker maintainers give me a simple howto to compile
Cooker from the SRPMS.  I know how to compile SRPMS, but I was wondering
what order I would need to compile them in or if the install program
will even recognize *.i686.rpm's instead of the i586 ones.

Robert Shade
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [Cooker] urpmi/rpm broken on cooker?

2001-07-06 Thread David Walluck

David Walluck wrote:


> Also urpmi.addmedia -a -f says it can't find a dependencies file, 
> besides, how would this fix anything as long as the cd installation 
> media are still listed. As I just said, I tried to have on;y cooker 
> media but it crashed. Also, it's good to keep the cd media in case I'm 
> no longer connected to the net at some point.
> 


Sorry, I meant urpmi.update -a -f. I think I have a similar problem as 
Pablo, in that some packages appear in the list that don't seem to 
exist. Also, MandrakeUpdate also fails to actually install my packages, 
as described before and by

[EMAIL PROTECTED] in his recent email.



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Re: [Cooker] urpmi/rpm broken on cooker?

2001-07-06 Thread David Walluck

Pablo Saratxaga wrote:

> I've only "cooker" medium.
> 
> Could I just copy the /var/lib/urpmi/* of working system?


Well, I tried to have only cooker medium, but at the point when I 
removed all of the sources and tried to add only a cooker source, 
rpmdrake crashed on me. Futhermore, how would I add the installation 
media under the same names the install program uses? In any case, to get 
around it I just booted off of the cd and chose upgrade, and it added my 
installation media back in, but I'd like to know what script it is 
running to do that.

Also urpmi.addmedia -a -f says it can't find a dependencies file, 
besides, how would this fix anything as long as the cd installation 
media are still listed. As I just said, I tried to have on;y cooker 
media but it crashed. Also, it's good to keep the cd media in case I'm 
no longer connected to the net at some point.

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[Cooker] 1.519 - Install pbs

2001-07-06 Thread guran

Hi

VERSION (rsync ftp.sunet.se)
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20010706 21:01 
/ChangeLog/1.519/Fri Jul  6 16:11:37 2001//

linuxconf as usual

Configure network -> unable to enter dialog, Ctrl-Alt-F3 gives:
warning: Modification of a read only value attempted at 
/usr/bin/perl-install/globals.pm line 28

Timezone - made choice - then only GMT and/or autosynhronisation with NTP

Printer: hangs on reading of cups-drivers -> unable to connect to cupsserver 
-> /usr/bin/perl-install/printer.pm line 417

services back but when writing this letter I used Ctrl-Alt-F2 to check if 
there was any cursor - when going back Xserver hangs -> reboot

No bootdisk

regards
guran




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] sane-1.0.5-1mdk

2001-07-06 Thread Denis Pelletier

On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Yves Duret wrote:

{ --=-=-=
{ Name: sane Relocations: (not relocateable)
{ Version : 1.0.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
{ Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Fri Jul  6 15:31:03 2001
{ Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
{ Group   : Graphics  Source RPM: (none)
{ Size: 1306379  License: GPL
{ Packager: Mandrake Linux Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
{ URL : http://www.mostang.com/sane/
{ Summary : SANE - local and remote scanner access.
{ Description :

I took sane-1.0.5-1mdk.src.rpm and did a rpm --rebuild on my mostly
Mandrake 8.0 box and I don't get the sane package. I get the
libsane1, libsane1-devel and sane-backends packages but not the
sane package.

Denis
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Re: [Cooker] Java support missing again in Mozilla?

2001-07-06 Thread David Walluck

Frederic Crozat wrote:

> Dans l'article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David Walluck"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> 
> 
>>In a recent changelog, it said Java support was fixed, and it appeared
>>to be. Looks like it's gone again. BTW, I'm using j2sdk 1.4 from sun,
>>the 1.3 plugin Mozilla tries to download doesn't seem to work at all.
>>
> 
> Have you install Sun j2sdk rpm ?
> 
> 


Yes, see below:


rpm -q mozilla
mozilla-0.9.2-5mdk

rpm -q j2sdk
j2sdk-1.4.0-beta


Now the changelog for mozilla says:


* Mon Jul 02 2001 Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9.2-3mdk

- Fix detection of j2sdk 1.4


So, java support was working as of 3mdk (I tested it), but seems to not 
be working again in 5mdk.

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Re: [Cooker] ash missing in mdkinst?

2001-07-06 Thread Blue Lizard


> i'm uploading today (beware!)
> 
Yes beware, but besides whatever ash symlinks and whatnot (um) will we
get to see that wonderfulness which gc has so tauntingly forboded?





Re: [Cooker] [Contrib-Rpm] twig-2.7.2-1mdk

2001-07-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Don Head am Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:28:06PM -0500:
> Description :
> PHP programming language. Our intention is that it become a simple,
^^^

"Our"?

Hmm, wouldn't it be better to be non-personal, ie. to say "The
intention..."?

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Re: [Cooker] /etc/aurora/Monitor again trashed by Aurora update

2001-07-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:19:09PM +0400:
> That's not funny any more. The bug is more than half an year old.

Well, wouldn't the best solution be, to switch to update-alternatives
when installing a new monitor?

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[Cooker] [Contrib-Rpm] twig-2.7.2-1mdk

2001-07-06 Thread Don Head

Name: twig Relocations: /var/www 
Version : 2.7.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Fri 06 Jul 2001
03:27:57 PM EDT
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: server.classroom.edu
Group   : System/ServersSource RPM:
twig-2.7.2-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 4748240  License: GPL
Packager: Don Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://twig.screwdriver.net/
Summary : The Web Information Gateway
Description :
TWIG is rapidly becoming a very useful intranet/groupware tool and
application framework. It is written and implemented completely with the
PHP programming language. Our intention is that it become a simple,
cross-platform, fast, and browser-independent way to access or share
almost any kind of information, without the complexity or costs of other
intranet/groupware packages.

The main features that TWIG currently supports:
 - E-Mail (via IMAP)
 - Contact Manager
 - Scheduling
 - Usenet Newsgroups
 - Todo Lists
 - Bookmarks


* Fri Jul 06 2001 Don Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.7.2-1mdk

- Update to 2.7.2


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Re: [Cooker] New PHP doesn't have MySQL support built-in

2001-07-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Vincent Danen am Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 07:39:20PM +:
> Ummm... there *is* a php-mysql package...  I'm not sure what you guys
> are talking about...

Maybe there's one - but the mirrors do not have it.  Could you please
check again?

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[Cooker] /etc/aurora/Monitor again trashed by Aurora update

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

That's not funny any more. The bug is more than half an year old.

{pts/2}# urpmi Aurora
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be 
installed (1 MB):
Aurora-Monitor-NewStyle-Categorizing-WsLib-8.2-10mdk Aurora-8.2-10mdk 
Aurora-Monitor-Traditional-WsLib-8.2-10mdk
Is it ok? (Y/n)
installing 
/mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//Aurora-Monitor-NewStyle-Categorizing-WsLib-8.2-10mdk.i586.rpm
 
/mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//Aurora-Monitor-Traditional-WsLib-8.2-10mdk.i586.rpm 
/mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//Aurora-8.2-10mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing... 
###
 
[100%]
warning: /etc/aurora/Monitor created as /etc/aurora/Monitor.rpmnew
###
 
[ 33%]
###
 
[ 66%]
###
 
[100%]

{pts/1}# ll /etc/aurora
? 8
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 ???  6 23:15 Monitor
-rwx--1 root root  336 ???  3 23:29 
Monitor-NewStyle-Categorizing-WsLib.rc*
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 ???  3 23:29 Monitor.rpmnew
-rwxr-1 root root 1782 ???  3 23:29 rc*

-andrej





[Cooker] efax/kdeutils conflict

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

{pts/1}# urpmi efax
installing /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//efax-0.9-8mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing... 
###
 
[100%]
file /usr/bin/efax from install of efax-0.9-8mdk conflicts with file 
from package kdeutils-2.2-0.beta1.2mdk
file /usr/bin/efix from install of efax-0.9-8mdk conflicts with file 
from package kdeutils-2.2-0.beta1.2mdk
file /usr/bin/fax from install of efax-0.9-8mdk conflicts with file from 
package kdeutils-2.2-0.beta1.2mdk
file /usr/share/man/man1/efax.1.bz2 from install of efax-0.9-8mdk 
conflicts with file from package kdeutils-2.2-0.beta1.2mdk
file /usr/share/man/man1/efix.1.bz2 from install of efax-0.9-8mdk 
conflicts with file from package kdeutils-2.2-0.beta1.2mdk
Installation failed
Try installation without checking dependencies? (y/N)

I noticed it when installing kdeutils; I did not even know that I had 
efax installed

-andrej





[Cooker] Can't install anything with rpmdrake

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

{pts/2}% rpm -q rpmdrake rpmtools rpm urpmi
rpmdrake-1.3-70mdk
rpmtools-3.0-8mdk
rpm-4.0.3-0.15mdk
urpmi-1.6-12mdk

Invoke rpmdrake, switch to updates, select any update, press install. It
tells me "invoking tpminst", for some time progress bar, then nothing more
happens. In rpmdrake the package disappears in Updates, but it is not
installed. In strace I see that rpmdrake *is* installed with correct (he
he) arguments, it invokes two times urpmi --headers and that's all. It
looks, like rpminst *thinks* everything is already installed.

Tried to remove/add source several times with/without ../base/hdlist.cz
without any chage. Here is what I get with strace:

12135 execve("/usr/sbin/rpminst", ["/usr/sbin/rpminst", "--skip-intro",
"--report", "/root/tmp/rpminst.log", "--packages", "lftp"],...
12136 execve("/bin/sh", ["sh", "-c", "urpmq --force --headers lftp  >
"...],...
12137 execve("/usr/bin/urpmq", ["urpmq", "--force", "--headers", "lftp"],
..
12139 execve("/bin/gzip", ["gzip", "-d"],...
12140 execve("/bin/sh", ["sh", "-c", "urpmq -m --headers lftp >
/home/"...],...
12141 execve("/usr/bin/urpmq", ["urpmq", "-m", "--headers", "lftp"], ...
12142 execve("/bin/sh", ["sh", "-c", "gzip -dc
\'/var/lib/urpmi/synthes"...], ...
12142 execve("/bin/gzip", ["gzip", "-dc",
"/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist."...]..
12144 execve("/bin/gzip", ["gzip", "-d"],...

that's all.

-andrej






[Cooker] upload of ftnchek-3.1.1-1mdk.src.rpm

2001-07-06 Thread Pierre-Michel THEVENY

Hello,

i ve uploaded ftnchek-3.1.1-1mdk.src.rpm today, a Fortran program
checker.

Ftnchek (short for Fortran checker) is designed to detect certain errors
in a
Fortran program that a compiler usually does not.

Ftnchek is not primarily intended to detect syntax errors.
Its purpose is to assist the user in finding semantic errors.
Semantic errors are legal in the Fortran language but are wasteful or
may
cause incorrect operation.

best regards
pmt




Re: [Cooker] scp login name option

2001-07-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Eugenio Diaz am Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 07:05:56AM -0700:
> Does anyone here know how to tell "scp" a different login name like the "-l"
> option of ssh?

scp file user@host:

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RE: [Cooker] scp login name option

2001-07-06 Thread Patrick Mullaley

try scp  @:

and scp @: 

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eugenio Diaz
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:06 AM
To: Cooker Maillist
Subject: [Cooker] scp login name option


Does anyone here know how to tell "scp" a different login name like the "-l"
option of ssh?

For example if I want to copy files between computer A and B and my user ID
is
foo at A and bar B, then I tried:

scp -o "-l bar" A:filetocopy .

but that did not work ... any one know how to do it. This is a pretty
frequent
situation when you are using computers that only use ssh ...

=

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Re: [Cooker] urpmi/rpm broken on cooker?

2001-07-06 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:06:24AM +0200, François Pons wrote:

> Yes, but with cooker version only of urpmi, and all hdlist and depslist (as well
> as provides) files updated. Try urpmi.update -a -f, this could help.

No, it doesn't (well, urpmi just says that file in server is not newer
than the one I have).

> If problem exists for removable CD hdlist, try removing and adding them again.

I've only "cooker" medium.

Could I just copy the /var/lib/urpmi/* of working system?
 
> François.

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Re: [Cooker] scp login name option

2001-07-06 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Eugenio Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone here know how to tell "scp" a different login name like the "-l"
> option of ssh?
> 
> For example if I want to copy files between computer A and B and my user ID is
> foo at A and bar B, then I tried:
> 
> scp -o "-l bar" A:filetocopy .

scp /tmp/localname otherlogin@machine:/tmp/remotename



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[Cooker] scp login name option

2001-07-06 Thread Eugenio Diaz

Does anyone here know how to tell "scp" a different login name like the "-l"
option of ssh?

For example if I want to copy files between computer A and B and my user ID is
foo at A and bar B, then I tried:

scp -o "-l bar" A:filetocopy .

but that did not work ... any one know how to do it. This is a pretty frequent
situation when you are using computers that only use ssh ...

=

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Linux Engineer
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Re: [Cooker] urpmi/rpm broken on cooker?

2001-07-06 Thread François Pons

Pablo Saratxaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> No, it doesn't (well, urpmi just says that file in server is not newer
> than the one I have).

Are you updated rpmtools+urpmi to latest release ?

If not, check with "grep i586 /var/lib/urpmi/depslist.ordered", you should get a
log of output.

> > If problem exists for removable CD hdlist, try removing and adding them again.
> 
> I've only "cooker" medium.
> 
> Could I just copy the /var/lib/urpmi/* of working system?

Yes, but it should already be the case?

François.




Re: [Cooker] 2.4.5-9 - Install VI YES-KDE

2001-07-06 Thread guran

On Friday 06 July 2001 13:08, you wrote:
> Do you mean that KDE finally works?

Sure and beatiful I find it.
regards
guran




RE: [Cooker] 2.4.5-9 - Install VI YES-KDE

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

Do you mean that KDE finally works?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of guran
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 5:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] 2.4.5-9 - Install VI YES-KDE
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> VERSION   (rsync ftp.sunet.se)
> Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20010706 11:01
> 
> Thanks for your effort, and really nice new desktop of KDE.
> 
> The same install pbs but I will just try to have a nice time a 
> glas of wine 
> and explore the new stuff.
> 
> Happy weekend
> guran
> 
> 




[Cooker] 2.4.5-9 - Install VI YES-KDE

2001-07-06 Thread guran

Hi

VERSION (rsync ftp.sunet.se)
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20010706 11:01

Thanks for your effort, and really nice new desktop of KDE.

The same install pbs but I will just try to have a nice time a glas of wine 
and explore the new stuff.

Happy weekend
guran




Re: [Cooker] Current list of NOTFOUND in depslist

2001-07-06 Thread François Pons

"Andrej Borsenkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Which is already bad enough for me.

Look at grpmi-8.1-3mdk...

François.




Re: [Cooker] Current list of NOTFOUND in depslist

2001-07-06 Thread David Odin

On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 01:57:54PM +0400, Andrej Borsenkow wrote:
> >
> > FYI, depslist.ordered is already closed on dependencies, this
> > means some packages
> > have NOTFOUND_ but in fact they didn't have NOTFOUND_ directly but require
> > packages that does have NOTFOUND_.
> >
> > To get list of faulty packages, try
> >
> > urpmf --requires --quiet libdb-3.1.so
> >
> 
> O.K. point taken.
> 
> > which gives the following (assuming only one media defined as
> > current cooker)
> >
> ...
> > grpmi:libdb-3.1.so
> ...
> Which is already bad enough for me.
> 
  I rebuild it now.

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[Cooker] 2.4.5-9 - Install V pbs

2001-07-06 Thread guran

Hi

VERSION (rsync ftp.sunet.se)
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20010706  8:46

The usual install with linuxconf, DNS, Timezone and Bootdisk pbs.

When issuing startx it complained that the DCOP-server was not up and 
running. From .xsession-errors:
kdeinit: Launched DCOPServer, pid = 1429 result = 0   
  
_KDE_IceTransOpen: Unable to Parse address local/Archimedes.brisen.rings  
  
_KDE_IceTransOpen: Unable to find transport for inet  
  
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket   
  
_KDE_IceTransOpen: Unable to Parse address local/Archimedes.brisen.rings  
  
_KDE_IceTransOpen: Unable to find transport for inet  
  
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket   
  
DCOPServer self-test failed.  

&c.

regards
guran  
 




Re: [Cooker] No need to test on old kernel

2001-07-06 Thread guran

On Friday 06 July 2001 00:23, you wrote:

> It is the kind of explanation that you wanted?

Thanks, I read kernel-traffic every weak and must have missed the full 
implications of Alan's remark.

regards
guran




Re: [Cooker] No need to test on old kernel

2001-07-06 Thread Juan Quintela

> "guran" == guran  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

guran> On Thursday 05 July 2001 16:21, you wrote:
>> Frankly, I by far prefer this kind of questions rather than plain old
>> insults that you wrote beginning this thread.
>> 
>> "Who is God at Mandrake to censor Linus and Alan and what is the policy?"
>> 

guran> It was not my intention, to kick on a person, I wanted to know the policy, 
guran> and policy I think can be argued about.

ok, will try to explain what _I_ understand here:
- If something is experimental, we don't enable it in the .config
  except if:
   * there is no other driver for the thing
   * it don't affect the rest of the system if you don't use it.
- If something don't boot in my test machines (i.e. I know it is so
  buggy that only will boot/support very light load before crash,
  don't ship.

There are other two requirements for the kernel on cooker:
- if one application don't load, you only have to reboot, if the
  kernel don't boot, it could eat your filesystems for breakfast.
- the kernel has actually around 120 patches, that means that
sometimes it is very difficult to release a new kernel, if alan cox or
linus torvalds change some core infrastructure, we could need some
time to adapt all the patches.

In this case (alan cox -2x patches), we _know_ (indeed he told in the
changelog), that they will be unstable for some time, then we decide
not to release them.

It is the kind of explanation that you wanted?

Later, Juan.

PS. As all the rules, there are exceptions :)  You can consider this a
rule of thumb.

PS2. I am on the road at LSM, that means that I can't be very
responsive until Monday :(

-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy




Re: [Cooker] No need to test on old kernel

2001-07-06 Thread guran

On Friday 06 July 2001 07:10, you wrote:

> Who speaks about "stable use" of cooker?
>

I think I have to make my intensions somewhat more clear:

I started this thread because I suspected that the Cooker-team had made a 
decision - only to introduce the last kernel once a week.

Here is my argumentation for that not being a valid position.

For just 10 min ago I tried to launch KDE in a fresh downloaded Cooker and it 
complained that the DCOPserver was not up and running. Thus we have bugs and 
although this is about digital systems the logic to the solution is not 
always a straight forward one. It is then possible that we have to look for 
an answer in a wider perspective, meaning that the bug might be caused by an 
'orchestrated co-operation' i.e. many interoperating causalities.

One possible solution to such a scenario is to use the latest patch on the 
kernel.

To say that an old kernel has stabilized is to say that the unknown bug of 
today is clearly not caused by any of those faults that are patched in the 
latest kernel. If that is the case then I would very much like to see an 
expose of that causality chain. Because then any tester that finds a bug and 
its cause in an old kernel has done as likely a good job if the new kernel 
was submitted or not.

regards
guran 




RE: [Cooker] Current list of NOTFOUND in depslist

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

>
> FYI, depslist.ordered is already closed on dependencies, this
> means some packages
> have NOTFOUND_ but in fact they didn't have NOTFOUND_ directly but require
> packages that does have NOTFOUND_.
>
> To get list of faulty packages, try
>
> urpmf --requires --quiet libdb-3.1.so
>

O.K. point taken.

> which gives the following (assuming only one media defined as
> current cooker)
>
...
> grpmi:libdb-3.1.so
...
Which is already bad enough for me.

-andrej





Re: [Cooker] Current list of NOTFOUND in depslist

2001-07-06 Thread François Pons

"Andrej Borsenkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> depslist just downloaded 5 minutes ago:

FYI, depslist.ordered is already closed on dependencies, this means some packages
have NOTFOUND_ but in fact they didn't have NOTFOUND_ directly but require
packages that does have NOTFOUND_.

To get list of faulty packages, try

urpmf --requires --quiet libdb-3.1.so

which gives the following (assuming only one media defined as current cooker)

apache-common:libdb-3.1.so
apache-mod_perl:libdb-3.1.so
apache:libdb-3.1.so
linuxconf:libdb-3.1.so
sendmail:libdb-3.1.so
grpmi:libdb-3.1.so
xdelta:libdb-3.1.so
perl-DB_File:libdb-3.1.so
apache-suexec:libdb-3.1.so
gated:libdb-3.1.so
kdeadmin:libdb-3.1.so
php-dba_gdbm_db3:libdb-3.1.so
php-ldap:libdb-3.1.so
proftpd:libdb-3.1.so
xdelta-devel:libdb-3.1.so

François.




[Cooker] Current list of NOTFOUND in depslist

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

depslist just downloaded 5 minutes ago:

[root@test root]# grep NOTFOUND cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/depslist.ordered
pango-0.16-5mdk.i586 768524 18 NOTFOUND_libglib-1.3.so.5 20
NOTFOUND_libgmodule-1.3.so.5 23 NOTFOUND_libgobject-1.3.so.5
libatk0-0.1-6mdk.i586 95123 18 NOTFOUND_libglib-1.3.so.5 20 59
NOTFOUND_libgthread-1.3.so.5 NOTFOUND_libgmodule-1.3.so.5 23
NOTFOUND_libgobject-1.3.so.5
libgtk+2-1.3.5-4mdk.i586 3508161 18 55 NOTFOUND_libglib-1.3.so.5 20 59 60
NOTFOUND_libgthread-1.3.so.5 NOTFOUND_libgmodule-1.3.so.5 23 56
NOTFOUND_libgobject-1.3.so.5 53
apache-common-1.3.19-3mdk.i586 170519 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185
apache-conf-1.3.19-3mdk.i586 135232 222 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185
apache-modules-1.3.19-3mdk.i586 483539 222 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185
mod_perl-common-1.3.19_1.25-4mdk.i586 725341 222 238 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so
115 122 185 237 11|9
apache-mod_perl-1.3.19_1.25-4mdk.i586 533292 222 238 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so
115 122 185 261 237 11|9 10|9
libgtk+2-devel-1.3.5-4mdk.i586 6177145 18 55 189 NOTFOUND_libglib-1.3.so.5
NOTFOUND_libglib2-devel 20 59 60 NOTFOUND_libgthread-1.3.so.5 236
NOTFOUND_libgmodule-1.3.so.5 23 56 61 NOTFOUND_libgobject-1.3.so.5 194 53
138
apache-1.3.19-3mdk.i586 352987 222 238 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185 237
linuxconf-1.25r7-1mdk.i586 10296679 18 55 381 20 303 126
NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 23 53
postfix-20010228-10mdk.i586 6009191 173 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 174 116
sendmail-8.11.4-2mdk.i586 707615 374 129 173 276 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 174
115 258 116
grpmi-8.1-2mdk.i586 510254 18 315 20 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 23 344 115 305
116 57
HTML-Embperl-1.3.3-4mdk.i586 1273128 222 238 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 122
185 261 264 237 11|9 10|9
xdelta-2.0-0.Beta1.2mdk.i586 222048 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so
HTML-Mason-1.02-1mdk.i586 642677 517 222 238 484 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115
122 185 261 264 237 11|9 10|9
autoirpm-0.8-12mdk.i586 44520 18 315 337 312 319 649 20
NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 468 23 192 344 115 350 305 116 296 57
gurpmi-1.0-12mdk.i586 113 18 315 337 312 319 20 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 468 23
192 344 115 350 305 116 296 57
mod_php-4.0.6-1mdk.i586 90488 297 222 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185 237
311|264
mod_ssl-2.8.2-6mdk.i586 1100484 222 129 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 116 185
237 311|264
perl-Apache-Filter-1.011-5mdk.noarch 46980 222 238 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115
122 185 261 264 237 11|9 10|9
perl-Apache-SSI-2.13-5mdk.noarch 40186 559 222 238 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115
122 185 261 264 237 11|9 10|9
perl-DB_File-1.73-3mdk.i586 103978 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 122 11|9
libatk0-devel-0.1-6mdk.i586 134296 18 NOTFOUND_libglib-1.3.so.5 20 59 60
NOTFOUND_libgthread-1.3.so.5 NOTFOUND_libgmodule-1.3.so.5 23
NOTFOUND_libgobject-1.3.so.5
Apache-ASP-2.00-4mdk.noarch 1260383 387 717 435 740 724 727 559 486 386 222
722 238 485 720 487 484 385 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 388 561 169 483 356 434
739 115 122 185 716 261 264 433 237 11|9 10|9
apache-manual-1.3.19-3mdk.i586 2053009 222 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185
apache-suexec-1.3.19-3mdk.i586 10263 222 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185
311|264
bronc-0.60-2mdk.i586 108777 18 387 284 517 55 168 770 730 142 181 180 20 127
222 177 19 149 238 489 172 484 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 444 165 137 23 434 56
291 115 116 122 185 261 264 53 611 292 237 11|9 10|9
drakprofile-4-15mdk.noarch 125952 18 191 288 55 381 337 279 121 312 142 409
151 148 319 152 427 127 20 464 432 303 348 126 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 281 169
124 23 192 56 355 160 133 327 115 350 123 116 132 138 53 22 416 296 57 10|9
11|9
gated-3.5.11-6mdk.i586 2551046 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so
glade-0.6.2-2mdk.i586 3241939 18 139 283 325 120 125 378 55 128
NOTFOUND_libgal.so.6 121 308 361 259 20 161 262 146
NOTFOUND_libgnomedbcomponents.so.0 163 316 126 154 340 274 159 119 124 23 56
133 289 117 123 147 322 263 162 132 323 53 155 170 57 10|9 290|282 282|290
gnome-linuxconf-0.67.1-1mdk.i586 292740 18 55 381 427 20 303 126
NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 23 53 57
jpilot-Mail-0.0.6-1mdk.i586 242837 18 275 358 20 NOTFOUND_libpisock.so.3 659
23 116 57
kdeadmin-2.2-0.alpha2.3mdk.i586:1 9982936 18 143 136 55 141 134 20 140 145
135 129 130 144 557 131 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 137 23 56 117 116 53 22
65|64|66 10|9
memprof-0.4.1-3mdk.i586 357579 18 120 125 55 128 121
NOTFOUND_libbfd-2.10.91.0.2.so.2 20 161 126 159 119 124 23 56 117 123 53 57
10|9
mod_frontpage-1.5.1mdk-3mdk.i586 36679 222 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185 237
311|264
mod_gzip-1.3.19.1a-1mdk.i586 72431 222 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 185 237
311|264
mod_perl-devel-1.3.19_1.25-4mdk.i586 604665 222 238 741
NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 122 185 261 264 237 11|9 10|9
mod_sxnet-1.2.4-1mdk.i586 19621 222 129 704 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 115 116
185 237 311|264
nss_ldap-153-3mdk.i586 183191 129 173 276 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 174 115 116
pam_ldap-112-3mdk.i586 139012 129 173 276 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 174 115 116
pango-devel-0.16-5mdk.i586 559388 18 189 NOTFOUND_libglib-1.3.so.5 259 20 59
419 584 603 236 NOTFOUND_libgmodule-1.3.so.5 23 NOTFOUND_libgobject-1.3.so.5
194 395 138
pango-viewer-0.16-5mdk.i586 50608 18 55 

[Cooker] rpmdrake depends on libdb-3.1!!!

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

Is it a joke?

grep NOTFOUND cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/depslist.ordered
...
rpmdrake-1.3-70mdk.i586 1178182 18 315 337 312 319 20 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so
281 468 23 192 344 115 305 116 296 57

-andrej





Re: [Cooker] Java support missing again in Mozilla?

2001-07-06 Thread Blue Lizard

>>In a recent changelog, it said Java support was fixed, and it appeared
>>to be. Looks like it's gone again. BTW, I'm using j2sdk 1.4 from sun,
>>the 1.3 plugin Mozilla tries to download doesn't seem to work at all.

I have it working on mdk and non mdk machines...
Although there were a few problems reported with the one moz tries to 
d/l indeed.





RE: [Cooker] kdebase-2.2-0.beta1.1mdk still depends on libdb-3.1

2001-07-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

Thanx. What about kdeadmin? I'd like it possible to at least update to
current KDE.

kdeadmin-2.2-0.alpha2.3mdk.i586:1 9982936 18 143 136 55 141 134 20 140 145
135 1
29 130 144 558 131 NOTFOUND_libdb-3.1.so 137 23 56 117 116 53 22 65|64|66
10|9

-andrej

> -Original Message-
> From: Laurent Montel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrej Borsenkow
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] kdebase-2.2-0.beta1.1mdk still depends on libdb-3.1
>
>
> Le Vendredi 6 Juillet 2001 07:55, Andrej Borsenkow a écrit :
> > kdebase-2.2-0.beta1.1mdk.i586:1 132436089 18 139 143 120 125
> 136 55 128 141
> > 121
> > 165 157 148 134 20 156 140 145 146 150 135 129 126 154 130 173 144 131
> > NOTFOUND_
> > libdb-3.1.so 119 174 124 153 137 23 56 133 117 115 123 147 122
> 116 277 132
> > 53 22
> >  155 164 307 57 167 65|64|66 11|9 10|9
> >
> > Anybody cares to rebuild it?
>
> Hi,
> Fixed
> upgrade to 2mdk version.
>
> Bye
>
> >
> > -andrej
>
>





Re: [Cooker] Java support missing again in Mozilla?

2001-07-06 Thread Frederic Crozat

Dans l'article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David Walluck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> In a recent changelog, it said Java support was fixed, and it appeared
> to be. Looks like it's gone again. BTW, I'm using j2sdk 1.4 from sun,
> the 1.3 plugin Mozilla tries to download doesn't seem to work at all.

Have you install Sun j2sdk rpm ?

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft