Re: [Cooker] And next ? (SaMBa and CUPS)
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:11, Randy Welch wrote: > (why do I need cups when installing samba...) Because if SaMBa is ever to use some of the special features of CUPS (e.g. print to PDF), it needs to access CUPS through the library. You shouldn't need all of CUPS, just the library. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 01:09 am, Randy Welch wrote: > Eddie wrote: > >Do not split KDE into so many silly packages. No distro does this and it > >is ridiculous and too confusing. Some one will say that you can install > >what you want and leave out other stuff, but if you use urpmi and/or > >gurpmi it still installs all the packages as before because of > >dependencies. Please go back to the way it was, it was s easier to > >keep track of. Eddie Mihalow Jr-Silver Club Member > > Oh I agree on this one. > > I don't think splitting KDE was such a good idea and I suspect it will > com back to bite mandrake. > > Keep It simple! > > -randy And splitting a single application (kopete and others) into 3-4 seperate rpms just doesnt make sense.
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Felix Miata wrote: 5-A usable normal boot and/or rescue floppy should be at least offered for creation during install. After install, creating a boot and/or rescue floppy should actually be possible on any system. Barring that, the creation process that fails should offer some guidance on what to change in order to enable success on future tries. IMHO, there is very little need for this as every installation media allows the rescue boot. Other than if you have multiple versions of mandrake installed on the same system, the rescue seems to pick the wrong one. Though for an install that will really screw your system up. Try RH AS3. That was not good. It decided to play with partition tables and no even give you a shot at boot loader selection. -randy
Re: [Cooker] TAKE MY BRAIN OFF THIS DAMN METHADONE FOR THE LAST TIME!
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:29, Tuomo Stauffer wrote: > On Monday 29 September 2003 21:13, Sascha Noyes wrote: >> On Monday 29 September 2003 07:09 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote: >>> "Great minds discuss ideas. >>> Average minds discuss events. >>> Ignorant minds discuss people. >> >> You must admit that the sig is somewhat amusing in this email. >> Agree. (-: > For a long time I have to agree this is the best ! And something > we should do with Mandrake - discuss ideas. We have a lot of > very intelligent people here developing Mandrake and ideas are > what we need - not "Average minds discuss events" or "Ignorant > minds discuss people" - ( IMHO ) and have a nice day. > ps. where / who did this anecdote originate ? Jason "What Headers?" Randle misquoted Admiral Hyman G. Rickover: "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." I can't find a reference for the last line, but I did stumble across an interesting editorial... We get most of our server consolidation with Exchange 2000," Devenuti says. But he expects to be able to push the number of users per server from about 3,000 on Exchange 2000 to 5,000 on Titanium. [/ME notes that Linux can handle at least 2,000,000 per box using dear old klunky SendMail as per http://thewhir.com/marketwatch/sendmail828.cfm and that tests http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/postfix/bench2.html show PostFix delivering typically twice as much as SendMail] ...with this breathtakingly bold reader comment while I was looking: Microsoft has done a great job of putting powerful tools in the hands of clueless morons. [...] Keep in mind people, Windows is the "Etch-A-Sketch" of the computer world. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Scherer wrote: On Monday 29 September 2003 13:38, Eddie wrote: Do not split KDE into so many silly packages. No distro does this and it is ridiculous and too confusing. debian does it, suse too. Some one will say that you can install what you want and leave out other stuff, but if you use urpmi and/or gurpmi it still installs all the packages as before because of dependencies. Please go back to the way it was, it was s easier to keep track of. Eddie Mihalow Jr-Silver Club Member Splitting is good. I do not own a scanner so why should i install sane required to use kooka, beacuse i use the old kdegraphics package ? i only use kmail and konqueror, why should i have 5 more useless kdenetwork application that i will never use. And why do I in a corporate network, with no modem attached, need to install a setuid binary (pppd) just to install kmail (which used to install kppp also, which requires ppp). Perhaps some of the dependencies should be reviewed. Yea I admit that some of the dependencies are kind of goofy. (why do I need cups when installing samba...) -randy
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
Eddie wrote: Do not split KDE into so many silly packages. No distro does this and it is ridiculous and too confusing. Some one will say that you can install what you want and leave out other stuff, but if you use urpmi and/or gurpmi it still installs all the packages as before because of dependencies. Please go back to the way it was, it was s easier to keep track of. Eddie Mihalow Jr-Silver Club Member Oh I agree on this one. I don't think splitting KDE was such a good idea and I suspect it will com back to bite mandrake. Keep It simple! -randy
[Cooker] Encrypted partitions with Mandrake?
Can anybody give me details how strong is the encryption if I create encrypted mount point partition during the Mandrake install? Or should I use some PKI based loopback crypto package like loop-AES. See http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README for details? Has anybody had any experiences from either of these? Or from some other encrypted loop device solutions? Mika
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:50, Michael Scherer wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2003 10:19, Warly wrote: >> - How to have more contributors? > And, even if this sound a little childish, having a > @contributer.mandrake.org mail address for contributer could do some > subliminal advertisement, showing that people can contribute without > having to be employed by mdk. Good idea. And a simple way to determine who gets early ISO access? Cheers; Leon
[Cooker] [Bug 6024] [mozilla-mail] New: No way to format HTML messages
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6024 Product: mozilla-mail Component: program Summary: No way to format HTML messages Product: mozilla-mail Version: 1.4-13mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the format menus/toolbars seem to have disappeared of Mozilla Mail on MDK9.2RC2. I have just updated to the latest cooker version 1.4-13mdk and am still getting the same result. Even if I reply to an email already in HTML format I can't alter the the format in any way. I have Enigmail installed but set to "no default encrytpion". -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] TAKE MY EMAIL OFF THIS DAMN LIST FOR THE LAST TIME!
For a long time I have to agree this is the best ! And something we should do with Mandrake - discuss ideas. We have a lot of very intelligent people here developing Mandrake and ideas are what we need - not "Average minds discuss events" or "Ignorant minds discuss people" - ( IMHO ) and have a nice day. ps. where / who did this anecdote originate ? On Monday 29 September 2003 21:13, Sascha Noyes wrote: > On Monday 29 September 2003 07:09 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote: > > "Great minds discuss ideas. > > Average minds discuss events. > > Ignorant minds discuss people. > > what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be > > corrected" > > You must admit that the sig is somewhat amusing in this email. > > Sascha
[Cooker] URPMI thoughts
Awhile back I had tried to setup urpmi sources with multiple mirrors for each source, thinking that if one mirror was busy, urpmi would move to the next. In this way, I wouldn't have to worry about not being able to login and try again, urpmi would simply move to the next preferred mirror. When I tried this it didn't seem to work and I have not tried again. Is this something that should be possible, or if not, can it be added as a feature? It seems like a useful feature. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 03:19, Warly wrote: > - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? The same thing wrong with them all - too little QA/freeze, although this is somewhat better now. Also ludicrous changelogs like "fixed something" or "rebuild". Laurent is the worst about this. Fixed *WHAT*? Rebuild WHY? > - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, we > should do it now. Debian is split to death, and it's a mess. I'd send the bugs to a different list, with followups set to cooker, and leave the rest. > - What could we do, as a community, to increase the acceptance of mandrakelinux? QA, QA, QA. More QA. Get manufacturers to support Mandrake for applications. Specifically, IBM and Oracle. > - How to have more contributors? Better documentation. I've made a couple of mdk rpms for stuff that isn't otherwise available, but it was a mysterious process to get it in Mdk, so I just never did. > And anything related to the mandrakelinux distro. For God's sake, a urpmi proxy, like apt-proxy. Corporations are not going to want each box pulling packages separately, and they don't want to mirror, either. They just want to pull the stuff they need - once. Also, a place where folks can go get urpmi lines. Not just for stuff like MdkClub and mirrors, but kind of like Debian has a list of misc. repositories available that make it easy to locate Mdk-specific packages for whatever the user is looking for. Almost all unsupported and unaffiliated, but at least a place where a user can go look for homegrown packages of stuff (a la Texstar, etc.). -- Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uncompensated Mandrake Guinea Pigs, Inc.
Re: [Cooker] YEAH ITS THE FUNNIEST DAMN THING SINCE THIS SIDE OF THE STATES EH?
On Monday 29 September 2003 10:12 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote: > TYPCIAL ASSHOLES! > > Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Monday 29 September 2003 10:13 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote: > > On Monday 29 September 2003 07:09 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote: > > > "Great minds discuss ideas. > > > Average minds discuss events. > > > Ignorant minds discuss people. > > > what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be > > corrected" > > > You must admit that the sig is somewhat amusing in this email. > > I didn't catch that. It is delicious irony. They can't remove you, only you can. Being rude and nasty will not make anyone feel sorry for you. Go to the page where you signed up for the list, and remove yourself. If you can't remember, then maybe if you ask, instead of being a pain, someone will help you. what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be corrected That is a very nice quote, and quite funny. Paul
[Cooker] YEAH ITS THE FUNNIEST DAMN THING SINCE THIS SIDE OF THE STATES EH?
TYPCIAL ASSHOLES! Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 29 September 2003 10:13 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote:> On Monday 29 September 2003 07:09 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote:> > "Great minds discuss ideas.> > Average minds discuss events.> > Ignorant minds discuss people.> > what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be corrected"> > You must admit that the sig is somewhat amusing in this email.> I didn't catch that. It is delicious irony.-- /g"Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, insidea dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Ignorant minds discuss people. what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be corrected""The thing about the good old days is that you seldom recognize them when you are in them. They are most clearly seen in hindsight. Most clearly seen after they are gone" Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [Cooker] TAKE MY EMAIL OFF THIS DAMN LIST FOR THE LAST TIME!
On Monday 29 September 2003 10:13 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote: > On Monday 29 September 2003 07:09 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote: > > "Great minds discuss ideas. > > Average minds discuss events. > > Ignorant minds discuss people. > > what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be corrected" > > You must admit that the sig is somewhat amusing in this email. > I didn't catch that. It is delicious irony. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] TAKE MY EMAIL OFF THIS DAMN LIST FOR THE LAST TIME!
On Monday 29 September 2003 07:09 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote: > "Great minds discuss ideas. > Average minds discuss events. > Ignorant minds discuss people. > what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be corrected" You must admit that the sig is somewhat amusing in this email. Sascha
[Cooker] Raw images from digital cameras can be read with Linux now
If you have a higher end digital camera, you will probably be able to let the camera save the raw sensor output on your memory card. These files are usually camera-specific and the formats not published by the manufacturers. In addition most cameras store some manufacturer-specific data fields in the EXIF header of JPEG files. I have made two new RPM packages and put them into the contribs: "dcraw" for reading raw images on many cameras and "metacam" to read manufacturer-specific EXIF extensions. Here are the descriptions (ChangeLog list seems to be broken currently): -- Name: dcrawRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.20030928Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: Sun Sep 28 20:38:28 2003 Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: no.mandrakesoft.com Group : Graphics Source RPM: (none) Size: 74009License: Distributable Signature : (none) Packager: Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ Summary : Reads the raw image formats of more than 70 digital cameras Description : Reads and processes raw images from more than 70 digital cameras. Raw images are the data directly read from the CCD of the camera, without in-camera processing, without lossy JPEG compression, and in 36 or 48 bits color depth (TIFF has 24 bits). Problem of the raw images is that they are in proprietary, camera-specific formats as once, there seems not to be a standard format for high-color-depth images, and second, the raw images contain headers with information about camera settings. This is a collection of command line tools to read and convert the raw image files and also to get camera setting information out of them. Please read the /usr/share/doc/dcraw-0.20030928/dcraw.html file (all programs mentioned in this file are included with this package and the dcraw-gimp package) and the man page ("man dcraw"). Install also dcraw-gimp if you want to be able to load raw image files directly into the GIMP. This program does not download the files from the camera, it only processes the already downloaded files. Depending on your camera model, mount your camera as a USB mass-storage device, use GPhoto2 ("gtkam", "flphoto", "gphoto2"), or a flash card reader for downloading the files. -- ame: metacam Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Sat Sep 27 22:48:31 2003 Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: no.mandrakesoft.com Group : Graphics Source RPM: (none) Size: 28392License: GPL Signature : (none) Packager: Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/pages/metacam.html Summary : Command line tool to read the EXIF extensions in JPEG files Description : Most digital cameras produce EXIF files, which are JPEG files with extra tags that contain information about the image. In contrary to the tools "exif" and "gexif" (and all other libexif-based tools as "gphoto2") this tool gives a much easier readable summary of camera settings. But the speciality of this program is that it knows many manufacturer-specific entries for Nikon, Canon, and Olympus cameras. The tool is very compact, the executable has only a size of around 87 kb. -- No MandrakeSoft Advanced Photo Laboratory 9.2 should be complete. Till
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 9:05 am, Pierre Jarillon honored me with this communique: > Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 13:48, Nora Etukudo a écrit : > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Warly wrote: > > > - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs? > > > > No. I don't need ISO's at all during development. 'rsync'ing to a local > > server and installing via net from there is cheap, fast and reliable. > > This is not my opinion. Some problems are only found with a fresh install > or an upgrade of a previous stable distribution. A very good point. I personally rarely use the ISOs myself, though I do download and burn them occasionally just so I have a benchmark disk. It is so irritating to have one of those "cooker moments" when you find your system in such a state that you need to reboot from the CD, but you don't have a CD current enough to allow you to do so! (I've had this happen a couple of times.) Without ISO images, how do we (the cooker tester community) locate the problems that the "real world" users will encounter? I know that haven't done a full install from an ISO for a long time, but I will soon - I have another WinBox that I'm ready to sacrifice to the Penguin God. I can understand the point of view that "we don't need ISOs," at least for probably 80% of the cooker cycle. The final 20% should have at least a few ISO releases. (But then, don't we do that already? RC1, RC2, and in my opinion there should at least a quick-turn RC3 ... but then I'm an electrical engineer, and thus biased in favor of excessive prototyping. Ideally, RC3 should be the released product.) It might be nice to have an ISO or two before RC1. Maybe that's overkill, maybe not. Just my .02 euros ... Jay -- I can bend minds with my spoon.
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
Le Lundi 29 Septembre 2003 15:11, Pierre Jarillon a écrit : > My proposition is to ask people if they want to help or some help or > nothing. - allow to query the database to find people living in the same > area. - create a mailing list for each area. Only club members of the same > area can access to it. You want more contributors, or less?? If you cluster or drive them to pay, you will have less. To be in the Mandrake club or not, to contribute to a linux distribution or not, is a choice. No obligation to pay, no obligation to earn to pay. To pay M$ is an obligation. Do you want Mandrake to become a new Microsoft? :-)
Re: [Cooker] TAKE MY EMAIL OFF THIS DAMN LIST FOR THE LAST TIME!
Everything you need to know about how to remove yourself from the list is in the mail headers. You've had the power to remove yourself all along. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Mon Sep 29, 2003 at 11:37:22PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > This is what @linux-mandrake.com addresses are for. > > But again, there is no documented policy (and maybe even the resitrictions > on what you should use it for) anywhere, so people don't know how to get > one. Hasn't it always been to email Lenny and ask? > > Of course, it should be possible to have the entire development > infrastructure in LDAP, which (if administered well) could allow more > scalability in managing rights of contributors etc. It would also allow > more public advertising of the infrastructure support Mandrake can provide > as an IT solution. > A discussion for another day... =) A *lot* of work would have to be done to make everything able to authenticate against LDAP. The build machines should be easy enough, but to have stuff like Club, Expert, Anthill, Bugzilla, etc. also authenticate against LDAP... now that would be a little challenging. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 10:19, Warly a écrit : > It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to > have some brainstorm. > > May you give your opinion on : > in my opinion: --- > - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? > > - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, > we should do it now. > > - What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development. if Mandrake wants a popular Desktop: test is a big part of developement but it's not so easy for a newcomer to test while developpers can't explain how to clic a mouse, that's newcomers who say "it's easy, and it works!" or "never succeed in installing that $&[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux", and they can test some sort of things no developper could just imagine the reason why that could be done... I recommand you to define an easy and comprehensive way to test for newcomers. > > - What should we do to improve the Wiki. increase speed! > > - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs? it could be usefull for who do not have 7GB free for packages and iso, or just to make a step freeze in the development for clearer reports > > - What could we do, as a community, to increase the acceptance of > mandrakelinux? I think I answer that at "What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development" > > - How to have more contributors? You must form people by the way you are educationalist. And people can become contributors. This point followed by RH and MDK, before the crisis, but in the dream of infinite profits, could be a good one if it costs no money, off course! ;-) > > And anything related to the mandrakelinux distro. err... could have a software for automatic integration of packages of other disto,... and automatic port of softwares running on othe os ;-) Make clear and up to date which hardware is compatible or not should be a good thing. Newbies (and others) like it. Manufacturers should want their products listed. May be open source have not enough image of "serious" or "professional" for little enterprises, because everyone use something else (begin by a "m" or a "a" and end by a "$"), and use a software that everyone uses, that is the best, and sometimes that nobody really knows how it works, and what it can do! Just pedagogy! Thanks to the cooker team for the job.
[Cooker] nss_db broken?
Hey everyone, Apparently nss_db no longer works in Mandrake 9.1 or Cooker, though it used to work in 9.0. I've been trying to get it to work, but I keep stubbing my toe on _LIBC vs _REENTRANT, __set_errno and some other things I don't quite understand (I'm a Perl programmer by trade, and a rather poor C programmer). Anyone know what the deal is with that? I'm trying to build a cluster of mail servers, and nss_db won't install or recompile from SRPM. -- /* Michael A. Nachbaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * http://nachbaur.com/pgpkey.asc */ "Out," he said. People who can supply that amount of firepower don't need to supply verbs as well.
[Cooker] TAKE MY EMAIL OFF THIS DAMN LIST FOR THE LAST TIME!
Frank Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg Meyer wrote:>use -c switch to control number of iso's.> >Yes, but without knowing how the content has changed from the days when the same command produced 3 full CDs and one partially full CD, it's hard to pick the correct number."Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Ignorant minds discuss people. what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be corrected""The thing about the good old days is that you seldom recognize them when you are in them. They are most clearly seen in hindsight. Most clearly seen after they are gone" Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
[Cooker] [Bug 6021] [OpenOffice.org] Bad UI font
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6021 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Bad UI font |Bad UI font --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-30-09 00:42 --- this is because openoffice-wrapper.pl create users .openoffice firectory. if it doesn't exist there is substituion for user_interface font to bitstream vera font, which is unfortunatelly still only in iso-8859-1 charset. then this lead to unreadable all national characters in menu which isn't included in iso-8859-1 table. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: After fresh standard Cooker installation (25-09-2003) I have a bad UI font. Please check the attachment. Possible solutions is to disable Font Replacement in Options dialog. The PL-pl language is also affected. Can anobody from .pl or .sk confirm this problem?
Re: [Cooker] MakeCD creating 9 ISOs ?
Greg Meyer wrote: use -c switch to control number of iso's. Yes, but without knowing how the content has changed from the days when the same command produced 3 full CDs and one partially full CD, it's hard to pick the correct number.
[Cooker] [Bug 5038] [Hardware] Officejet only prints in color
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 23:58 --- Official word from the HP developer : You are right, use one of the grayscale modes for true black (K) printing. Normal and Photo modes will use K-fortification or composite black which is not always desirable when printing black text. This is true for VIP and non-VIP printers. We are working on future hpijs release which will print black (K) text in Normal mode. Grayscale (K) printing will always be faster than Norm (KCMY) and Photo (CMY). You can close this bug as expected behaviour. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: (That's not entirely true.) When I print using my Officejet D135, it only uses the color cartridge to print. It's supposed to autodetect by the paper type and I'm using plain old inkjet paper. Expected behavior: A mixed text and graphic page should use the black cartridge for solid black (text) and the color cartridge for color. Actual behavior: If the page is only black, the driver uses the black cartridge, but if the page has any color, the driver uses only the color cartridge.
Re: [Cooker] gideon from cvs, linmodems, linmodems + seti stuff
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > Please comment, > > gideon from cvs, i will try and upload once a week, compiled on 9.1 (runs in > 9.2) > http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/kdevelop/ > I don't install cvs snapshots that have a release number > 1mdk. Why? Because either it's not going to upgrade well, or the maintainer is going to have to epoch it, or I have to do some clean up manually later (ie --force or --oldpackage). Please see the section on the rpm howto on the wiki regarding prereleases, the suggested method is something like %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-0.%{IDENTIFIER}.mdk where %{IDENTIFIER} is something like: alpha1 beta2 cvsMMDD pre3 rc1 (they would take precedence in that order, so hopefully cvs releases aren't necessary after a pre). samba3 has some macros to help with this (although they are quite complex, but with 24 alphas, 3 betas and 4 rc's it did save a lot of time). Regards, Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] gideon from cvs, linmodems, linmodems + seti stuff
ביום שלישי, 30 בספטמבר 2003, 00:34, נכתב על ידי Buchan Milne: > > dosemu (compiled in 9.0, runs in 9.1, 9.2), please run first time in a > > console, then you can use the menu item: > > http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/dosemu/ > > dosbox is in contrib to replace this, since dosemu can't be compiled in > it's entirity (or the dos image) with free software in the distribution. > I'm not sure if PLF has a package? dosbox sux, dosemu ownz. :) I needed dosemu for NASM which ide is in PMODE, and not supported by dosbox. as I understand, in the definition of free s/w here is "it can be compiled using free tools". I think that freedos can be compiled with some "free" (no cost and open source compiler) the name ran out of my head sorry. If anyone wants dos emu, and he cannot have it from the official sites, he can have it here. plf can mirror and use that rpm if they want. (mail me please if you do). > > several linmodems for 9.1, soon to add 9.2 (not all made by me, but > > stolen from arround the web): > > http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/linmodems/mandrake/ > > Please have a look at the ltmodem package available in Club, SRPM is at > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker, the official packages (which I > see you have) suck. I will take a look. but since I own only a HaM intel linmodem I will not be able to test it. (all other packages where not tested). > Regards, > Buchan -- diego, 4 Tishrey 5764 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [Cooker] gideon from cvs, linmodems, linmodems + seti stuff
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: > > several linmodems for 9.1, soon to add 9.2 (not all made by me, but stolen > > from arround the web): > > http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/linmodems/mandrake/ > > > > Please have a look at the ltmodem package available in Club, SRPM is at > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker, the official packages (which I > see you have) suck. BTW, AFAIK none of the Linmodem drivers can go in contrib or int he free section of MandrakeClub, so the best (IMHO) thing to do is to get them into MandrakeClub first, and then onto the commercial disks (which I have tried for ltmodem). You will notice I have packages for almost all available kernels for Mandrake 9.1 in MandrakeClub. Regards, Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Mon Sep 29, 2003 at 10:50:48PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > > > - How to have more contributors? > > > > while browsing the web, i have seen that gentoo and netbsd announce > > their new developpers. this may be a good idea,in order to show that > > new contributers comes. > > > > And, even if this sound a little childish, having a > > @contributer.mandrake.org mail address for contributer could do some > > subliminal advertisement, showing that people can contribute without > > having to be employed by mdk. > > This is what @linux-mandrake.com addresses are for. > But again, there is no documented policy (and maybe even the resitrictions on what you should use it for) anywhere, so people don't know how to get one. Of course, it should be possible to have the entire development infrastructure in LDAP, which (if administered well) could allow more scalability in managing rights of contributors etc. It would also allow more public advertising of the infrastructure support Mandrake can provide as an IT solution. -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Monday 29 September 2003 01:50 pm, Nora Etukudo wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 07:21:01PM -0400, jokerman64 wrote: > > but if updates worked better you'd probably do them wouldn't you? > > No, never. ;-) > > I hate operating system updates since the early eighties from the last > millenium (ALTOS XENIX 2.5, 1982). > > Liebe Grüße, Nora. Hmmm... Gee, Nora, I know Mandrake updates pretty well from some of their older releases.. but I doubt that you'll be able to update in one jump from Altos Xenix 2.5 ;-) V.
Re: [Cooker] gideon from cvs, linmodems, linmodems + seti stuff
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > Please comment, > > gideon from cvs, i will try and upload once a week, compiled on 9.1 (runs in > 9.2) > http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/kdevelop/ > > dosemu (compiled in 9.0, runs in 9.1, 9.2), please run first time in a > console, then you can use the menu item: > http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/dosemu/ dosbox is in contrib to replace this, since dosemu can't be compiled in it's entirity (or the dos image) with free software in the distribution. I'm not sure if PLF has a package? > > several linmodems for 9.1, soon to add 9.2 (not all made by me, but stolen > from arround the web): > http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/linmodems/mandrake/ > Please have a look at the ltmodem package available in Club, SRPM is at http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker, the official packages (which I see you have) suck. Regards, Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
RE: [Cooker] And next ?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: > - What could we do, as a community, to increase the acceptance of > mandrakelinux? > > Target the corporate desktop/client market. > > > - And anything related to the mandrakelinux distro. > Include "no brainer" tools/wizards for creating print/file servers or other > types of servers. Include tools/wizards for clients to join windows > domains... It's broken during installation (AFAICT), but try: # drakauth You will see we have winbind support (aka as close to Windows-style domain membership as is possible without samba3 in main). Next releae we should have AD support (if all goes well). BTW, have you looked at publishing printers in AD? It should be possible with samba3. And, by default, samba should share out all printers, and any member of the adm group should be able to upload print drivers for point-n-print drivers support. I also packaged the cups native windows drivers and informed the right people (allowing you full use of the ppd files installed for CUPS), but I don't know if it will be on the commercial disks. In short, there isn't much we haven't done, and I hope we can get a comprehensive libconf-based tool for configuring the rest for the next release (swat-clone isn't too bad, but we need to simplify the ui by abstracting it more from the config file). Regards, Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Mon Sep 29, 2003 at 10:50:48PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > - How to have more contributors? > > while browsing the web, i have seen that gentoo and netbsd announce > their new developpers. this may be a good idea,in order to show that > new contributers comes. > > And, even if this sound a little childish, having a > @contributer.mandrake.org mail address for contributer could do some > subliminal advertisement, showing that people can contribute without > having to be employed by mdk. This is what @linux-mandrake.com addresses are for. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] MakeCD creating 9 ISOs ?
On Monday 29 September 2003 12:00 pm, Frank Griffin wrote: > Apologies if I somehow missed this thread, but how come > > ./MakeCD -t /data -a /data/cooker/i586 > > which used to produce 4 650MB ISO images is now producing 9 ? Is mkcd > including all of contrib now ? > use -c switch to control number of iso's. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: exim; was Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 22:27 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: Fantastic - Adding that now >> > On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 06:54:02PM +0100, Stephen Kitchener wrote: > > Sorry to intrude on this convbut I would use Exim if it was available > > as a package - upto now I have to compile if from source and install > > it > > No need to apologize. And you can use it: > > # urpmi.addmedia rpmhelp > ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/packages/rpmhelp/9.2/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz > # urpmi exim > > =) > > It isn't the latest version yet as I'm waiting for the author of the > exiscan patches to come back from vacation and update to the latest > version. -- O o _\_ o \\/ o\ . //\___= '' Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:52:17 +0100 21:52:17 up 13:34, 1 user, load average: 2.09, 2.14, 2.08 All things are either sacred or profane. The former to ecclesiasts bring gain; The latter to the devil appertain. -- Dumbo Omohundro
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 10:19, Warly wrote: > - How to have more contributors? while browsing the web, i have seen that gentoo and netbsd announce their new developpers. this may be a good idea,in order to show that new contributers comes. And, even if this sound a little childish, having a @contributer.mandrake.org mail address for contributer could do some subliminal advertisement, showing that people can contribute without having to be employed by mdk. -- Mickaël Scherer
[Cooker] [Bug 6023] [ispell-en] New: Typo
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6023 Product: ispell-en Component: packaging Summary: Typo Product: ispell-en Version: 3.2.06-9mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: trivial Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description contains "Enlish" instead of "English" -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] gideon from cvs, linmodems, linmodems + seti stuff
Please comment, gideon from cvs, i will try and upload once a week, compiled on 9.1 (runs in 9.2) http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/kdevelop/ dosemu (compiled in 9.0, runs in 9.1, 9.2), please run first time in a console, then you can use the menu item: http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/dosemu/ several linmodems for 9.1, soon to add 9.2 (not all made by me, but stolen from arround the web): http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/diego/linmodems/mandrake/ i also maintain the ksetiwatch binaries (on the official site), the system is 9.1 in that case. I will also make binaries for ksetispy when it's out. Enjoy. -- diego, 4 Tishrey 5764 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
[Cooker] MakeCD creating 9 ISOs ?
Apologies if I somehow missed this thread, but how come ./MakeCD -t /data -a /data/cooker/i586 which used to produce 4 650MB ISO images is now producing 9 ? Is mkcd including all of contrib now ?
[Cooker] [Bug 5975] [mozilla] Mozilla is crashing with j2re-1.4.2_01
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5975 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 21:55 --- On: http://www.popcap.com The games are crashing after a few minutes after playing to: insaniquarium rocket mania diamond mine Note, this crash are intermittant. Removing $home/.mozilla make the crash happen faster and more consistant. rpm -q j2re => j2re-1.4.2_01-1mdk rpm -qa | grep mozilla => mozilla-1.4-13mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Step to reproduce: Install mozilla and j2re on your computer; Trye for exemple an applet from: http://www.popcap.com; mozilla will crash after a few moment. Try the same applet with konqueror and the same java package, it is working fine.
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test
On Monday 29 September 2003 05:30 am, Götz Waschk wrote: > Am Samstag, 27. September 2003, 22:30:44 Uhr MET, schrieb jokerman64: > > On Saturday 27 September 2003 17:46, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > diff -au f > > > > diff is attached > > Doesn't look suspicious. Does it work with one of the versions? I've > only tested it with the kde from 9.2 and the latest official > bittorrent package, there were no problems. I just made bt open torrents manully, the first one you posted 3.3-1 did this automatically and i had 3.1.3 at the time. Then i switched to 3.2 and the new package and it stopped working. Maybe the alpha broke something. doesn't really matter. i think it's something w/ 3.2 but can't be sure cause i don't have 3.3-1 to test that theory
Re: [Cooker] Re: And next ?
On September 1993 plus 3680 days Luca Berra wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 05:14:54AM -0500, Vox wrote: >>On September 1993 plus 3680 days David Walser wrote: >>> What about majordomo? > majordomo sucks a lot, i don't even think it is mantained anymore. > >> So...I think mailman is a better solution. >> >> Vox, who hates sympa > I still prefer sympa to mailman, sympa scenarii rock. (*) > But i would not turn it into a religion war. > I would propose using a more current version than 2.7.3 before shooting > at it (current stable is 3.4.4.3) > > regards, > L. > > (*) maybe i am biased, since i can read and write perl far better than i > can read python : I don't even try to read python, and I can sorta-almost-make-sense of perl...but I still hate sympa. Probably it's because the version used sucks, but any mailing list software that: a) Breaks gpg signatures and b) Stops sending mail when the load is high Is A Bad Software, IMNSHO. If the current sympa can handle the load of all the mandrake mailing lists during beta/rc times, and stops f'ing up gpg signatures just for the hell of it, then I *may* stop hating sympa...but until such happens, I still am... Vox, who hates sympa -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] [Bug 5932] [mailman] group conflicts with latest postfix
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5932 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 21:22 --- I changed the mail-gid in the spec file to "mail" and rebuilt the RPM and installed and things worked fine. It is important to run bin/check_perms also. BTW, "mail" was the mail-gid in the 2.0.x RPMS so I just se everything back the way it was. Also mailman 2.1.13 was released today to fix some bugs and some cross-site scripting issues. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: mailman wants group: "nogroup" and postfix uses prostfix and postdrop postfix-2.0.13-3
RE: [Cooker] And next ?
- What should we do to improve the Wiki. Create test plans or just simple requests for outside testers when a major feature is added or package updated...
RE: [Cooker] And next ?
- What was wrong in 9.2 development process? Enhancement requests should be handled first and all defects from previous releases fixed or closed. - We though a bit late in the 9.2 development process to split cooker ml, we should do it now. I agree. I am interested in printing and laptop development stuff only for the moment. It would be nice to subscribe to only the components one is interested in. - What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development. Earlier feature freeze and more subsequent Beta/RC. Also, focus on having stable/accessible/current mirrors. - What should we do to improve the Wiki. - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs? I think these would be unnecessary - What could we do, as a community, to increase the acceptance of mandrakelinux? Target the corporate desktop/client market. - And anything related to the mandrakelinux distro. Include "no brainer" tools/wizards for creating print/file servers or other types of servers. Include tools/wizards for clients to join windows domains...
Re: [Cooker] Re: And next ?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 05:14:54AM -0500, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3680 days David Walser wrote: What about majordomo? majordomo sucks a lot, i don't even think it is mantained anymore. So...I think mailman is a better solution. Vox, who hates sympa I still prefer sympa to mailman, sympa scenarii rock. (*) But i would not turn it into a religion war. I would propose using a more current version than 2.7.3 before shooting at it (current stable is 3.4.4.3) regards, L. (*) maybe i am biased, since i can read and write perl far better than i can read python : L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media & Services S.r.l. /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6022] [efax] New: kdebase dependency problem when uninstalling efax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 why splitting if the dependencies of the single packages suggest to uninstall the whole KDE section (ie kdenetwork or kdebase)? I´m not going to use fax related applications, but when trying to uninstall them I get the dependency warning suggesting to remove other packages I need. Better to keep everything packed so users don't get tempted to uninstall individual packages. Sorry for bringing the subject again up. Cheers On Monday 29 September 2003 20:00, [Aimak] wrote: > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6022 > >Product: efax > Component: packaging >Summary: kdebase dependency problem when uninstalling efax >Product: efax >Version: 0.9a-2mdk > Platform: PC > OS/Version: All > Status: UNCONFIRMED > Severity: normal > Priority: P2 > Component: packaging > AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Uninstalling efax-0.9a-2mdk application using rpmdrake 9.2 shows a > dependency problem suggesting the removal of kdebase-3.1.3-79mdk and > kdebase-kdeprintfax-3.1.3-79mdk. Shouldn't it be possible to remove the > application without altering KDE installation? > > This problem is also present in Mdk9.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/eHk9KhyQZjCRNmIRAupSAJ48xDR+irvaQB4EwGO4FpN0uWwsFQCfa9er PVo7n0M8vniN8GnSsm8i5wc= =6c16 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Monday 29 September 2003 11:40 am, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Sun Sep 28, 2003 at 02:36:41PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > [...] > > > > - How to have more contributors? > > > > A bugzilla (or similar product) for the release version? Seems strange > > I know but if you hook people on the concept as users with a smaller bug > > number (hopefully) in a release version you could well spark the > > interest needed (as well as hone the skills needed) for working in > > http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ Wow, cool. -- Bret Baptist Systems and Technical Support Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Exposure, Inc. http://www.iexposure.com (612)676-1946 x17 Web Development-Web Marketing-ISP Services -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
[Cooker] [Bug 5038] [Hardware] Officejet only prints in color
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 20:03 --- Cory. does this mean that HP has developed the HP DeskJet 990C and all the following RGB printers as CMY printers and not as CMYK printers, even if they can hold both a black and a color cartridge? That´s somewhat strange for me. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: (That's not entirely true.) When I print using my Officejet D135, it only uses the color cartridge to print. It's supposed to autodetect by the paper type and I'm using plain old inkjet paper. Expected behavior: A mixed text and graphic page should use the black cartridge for solid black (text) and the color cartridge for color. Actual behavior: If the page is only black, the driver uses the black cartridge, but if the page has any color, the driver uses only the color cartridge.
[Cooker] [Bug 6022] [efax] New: kdebase dependency problem when uninstalling efax
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6022 Product: efax Component: packaging Summary: kdebase dependency problem when uninstalling efax Product: efax Version: 0.9a-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Uninstalling efax-0.9a-2mdk application using rpmdrake 9.2 shows a dependency problem suggesting the removal of kdebase-3.1.3-79mdk and kdebase-kdeprintfax-3.1.3-79mdk. Shouldn't it be possible to remove the application without altering KDE installation? This problem is also present in Mdk9.1 -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:56:30AM +0200, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: > Not all of us have high bandwith connection. I test cooker at home, but > i can download easily at work : i can download an iso with only rpms > modified at work, and use them as 'update' home to test the improvements Oh no, you download iso's at work, unpack them and remaster them with your own rpm's for testing at home? Might it possibly easier to rsync at work and then makeing iso's for home testing? Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM-NETZ Neue Medien, Berlin http://www.im-netz.de/ WWW von Frauen für Frauen, Hamburghttp://www.w4w.net/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Helsinki http://www.sappho.net/
[Cooker] [Bug 5556] [kdeartwork] No screensavers are installed in 9.2rc2
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5556 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 19:54 --- This is a bug into kdelibs :( So you can add this entries into /etc/menu/ 'touch enable_mdk_customisation' Regards -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: By default, my install of 9.2rc2 had no screensavers installed, so I installed the kdeartwork package (kdeartwork-3.1.3-4mdk). There are still no screensavers installed.
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 07:21:01PM -0400, jokerman64 wrote: > but if updates worked better you'd probably do them wouldn't you? No, never. ;-) I hate operating system updates since the early eighties from the last millenium (ALTOS XENIX 2.5, 1982). Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM-NETZ Neue Medien, Berlin http://www.im-netz.de/ WWW von Frauen für Frauen, Hamburghttp://www.w4w.net/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Helsinki http://www.sappho.net/
[Cooker] [Bug 5038] [Hardware] Officejet only prints in color
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 19:44 --- In order to print true black, use the greyscale modes. This will print black text using the black cartridge. If you choose color modes, it will use the color to generate the black portions of the print job. Suggestion: Create a different queue for each of the print modes. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: (That's not entirely true.) When I print using my Officejet D135, it only uses the color cartridge to print. It's supposed to autodetect by the paper type and I'm using plain old inkjet paper. Expected behavior: A mixed text and graphic page should use the black cartridge for solid black (text) and the color cartridge for color. Actual behavior: If the page is only black, the driver uses the black cartridge, but if the page has any color, the driver uses only the color cartridge.
[Cooker] python
Hi. Something for the python friends: http://jtoolkit.sourceforge.net/ ?
[Cooker] acid snort gui
Hi. Maybe this is something for a gui packager: http://www.maximumunix.org/ACID-XML/ ?
Re: exim; was Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Mon Sep 29, 2003 at 06:03:38PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Oh, I know qmail is... I definitely know qmail is. =) I get lots of > > feedback on the qmail packages, but I've only heard from 2 people on the > > exim packages. There's probably more than 2 people, but I can't honestly > > know how many people are actually using them. > > > > BTW, there was some resistance to people using Mandrake on the servers > on campus since there were no exim packages (even though I pointed the > rpmhelp ones out), since exim is the "understood" mail server here. One > of the bigger linux servers on campus has however been running Mandrake > for quite a while, after they found out Postfix is easy enough to configure. > > Our server has of course been running postfix for a long time. Interesting. I know exim is popular and would be easy for those moving from debian since exim is the default MTA there (even if it's still exim3). -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Sun Sep 28, 2003 at 02:36:41PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: [...] > > - How to have more contributors? > > A bugzilla (or similar product) for the release version? Seems strange > I know but if you hook people on the concept as users with a smaller bug > number (hopefully) in a release version you could well spark the > interest needed (as well as hone the skills needed) for working in http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Sun Sep 28, 2003 at 04:41:35PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ > > > > # drakbug > > (I don't know how much this will be advertised and if it is all working > > and tested ... but note that bugs will probably treated more harshly than > > in bugzilla - where reporters are sometimes given usage tips when they > > have filed a non-bug) > > > > Regards, > > Buchan > >thanks I know that Vincent had/has been working on this... Is it > ready for prime time? If so I know a number of folks on the expert list > that would be willing to assist via this tool. But I'd rather let > Vincent make the announcement, since most of it will be in his lap, so > to speak. It's ready. I was waiting for more finished translations to roll out 0.2.4 final, but what's up is essentially ready for prime time. Not sure on an official announcement or PR, but it will likely be linked to from the 9.2 errata page, MandrakeSecure, Bugzilla, MandrakeExpert, and IIRC it is in the feature list for 9.2. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Mon Sep 29, 2003 at 12:07:47AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > - How to have more contributors? > > > > A bugzilla (or similar product) for the release version? Seems strange > > I know but if you hook people on the concept as users with a smaller bug > > number (hopefully) in a release version you could well spark the > > interest needed (as well as hone the skills needed) for working in > > here. Seems an odd angle I realize but since people keep saying. "I > > don't program so they won't want me around". Maybe something of this > > nature will help in showing people that they can contribute. Of course > > in my case not being in the middle of a "Paycheck" major release at the > > same time would help, but that's a personal problem "grin" > > http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ > > # drakbug > (I don't know how much this will be advertised and if it is all working > and tested ... but note that bugs will probably treated more harshly than > in bugzilla - where reporters are sometimes given usage tips when they > have filed a non-bug) It works. Stew and I spent a fair amount of time on drakbug to make it work with Anthill... see bug #1. That is a test from me using drakbug (slightly mangled /etc/mandrake-release) to report against Corporate 2.1. And yes, bugs on Anthill will be treated very harshly. Support requests will be killed immediately and referred to MandrakeExpert. Cooker bugs will be nixed immediately and referred to Bugzilla. Valid reports will be evaluated and essential fixes will be put into updates. Things deemed insignificant will likely be closed (this is more of a means to report really nasty bugs for fixing... not little things like fonts in gkrellm). -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] [Bug 6013] [urpmi] unable to force urpmi.update
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6013 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 18:40 --- On Sunday 28 September 2003 12:49 pm, [fpons] wrote: Would be really nice if this option was listed in either the --help or the man page. Bret. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: It seems that urpmi.update doesn't work, even with -f, if MD5SUM file on the server is not up to date, or at last older than hdlist.cz. I was unable to get the hdlist.cz file on ftp.club-internet.fr, dated Sep 27 because the MD5SUM was generated on Sep 24. I tried to remove my local MD5SUM but didn't work. I had to remove and recreate my Cooker and Contrib source to get it. Thanks Berthy
[Cooker] [Bug 6010] [libapr0] ApacheBench does not work
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6010 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 18:07 --- Maybe it's time to break out the apr* stuff as rh and others have allready done? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: I have upgraded it to the latest version, and ApacheBench (/usr/sbin/ab) does not work anymore. It seems it can't connect to any socket. For example : ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] data]# /usr/sbin/ab -v 5 -n 1 "http://127.0.0.1/"; This is ApacheBench, Version 2.0.40-dev <$Revision: 1.121.2.1 $> apache-2.0 Copyright (c) 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/ Copyright (c) 1998-2002 The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/ Benchmarking 127.0.0.1 (be patient)...INFO: POST header == --- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: ApacheBench/2.0.40-dev Host: 127.0.0.1 Accept: */* --- apr_poll: The timeout specified has expired (70007) [EMAIL PROTECTED] data]# /usr/sbin/ab -v 5 -n 1 "http://www.mandrakelinux.com/"; This is ApacheBench, Version 2.0.40-dev <$Revision: 1.121.2.1 $> apache-2.0 Copyright (c) 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/ Copyright (c) 1998-2002 The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/ Benchmarking www.mandrakelinux.com (be patient)...INFO: POST header == --- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: ApacheBench/2.0.40-dev Host: www.mandrakelinux.com Accept: */* --- apr_poll: The timeout specified has expired (70007) *** Of course, the Web sites are perfectly reachable using a browser. Also, directly telnetting the header lines mentionned by ApacheBench works too. Endly, the Apache 2 server itself does work, only /usr/sbin/ab is broken.
Re: exim; was Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vincent Danen wrote: > On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 03:33:51PM -0400, Brook Humphrey wrote: > > >>>Now you've hit the nail right on the head. =) >>> >>>Besides, how many people would want to use exim? I've *never* heard anyone >>>request using it before, and in fact I only know of one other person who >>>uses my packages. If something is going to go into contribs, I think >>>people should be interested in using it first. I'm not going to put it in >>>contribs if no one wants to use it. >> >>well to be fair they are fairly widely used or at least qmail is. As Ihave >>even contributed courier imap to rpmhelp before it made it to cooker contrib. >>I and I would imagine others have been helping and using the packages for >>some time. > > > Oh, I know qmail is... I definitely know qmail is. =) I get lots of > feedback on the qmail packages, but I've only heard from 2 people on the > exim packages. There's probably more than 2 people, but I can't honestly > know how many people are actually using them. > BTW, there was some resistance to people using Mandrake on the servers on campus since there were no exim packages (even though I pointed the rpmhelp ones out), since exim is the "understood" mail server here. One of the bigger linux servers on campus has however been running Mandrake for quite a while, after they found out Postfix is easy enough to configure. Our server has of course been running postfix for a long time. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/eFfarJK6UGDSBKcRAiw7AJ915WFaXoBHWZtt1QQuUDc5R21GtwCfUMBj WxYfUVXFZwRKTgC/wUYalQ4= =1qky -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
[Cooker] kdebase-3.1.3-79mdk and Security Advisory MDKSA-2003:091
Are the current kdebase packages in cooker patched against the vulnerability described in this advisory? Along the same lines, how do the cooker packages compare to KDE 3.1.4? Thanks, Arn
Re: [Cooker] mplayer security problem
On Sun Sep 28, 2003 at 05:19:46PM +0200, Götz Waschk wrote: > > > Attached is the diff against the 0.91 version. > > This is all that is required to fix the problem? > > The only other diff between 0.91 and 0.92 is the changed version > number. I'm afraid there could be more buffer overflow errors in > mplayer, so please don't run it as root. Shouldn't be run as root anyways. Ok, thanks. If that's the only change, then I'll build with that patch. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] [Bug 4770] [mc] make it default
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4770 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:58 --- Please, stop arguing. This bug has been closed as WONTFIX, so there is no point in discussing it anymore. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: my oppinion is that midnight commander is a powerful console tool and should be selected by default! thanx
Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.
Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 16:09, Laurent Montel a écrit : > Hi, > I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test. > For the moment MDK menu doesn't work. > I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400. Must be part of these patch : doesn't show supermount devices ( floppy & cdrom ) on desktop and in devices services ( sidebar )
Re: exim; was Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 03:33:51PM -0400, Brook Humphrey wrote: > > Now you've hit the nail right on the head. =) > > > > Besides, how many people would want to use exim? I've *never* heard anyone > > request using it before, and in fact I only know of one other person who > > uses my packages. If something is going to go into contribs, I think > > people should be interested in using it first. I'm not going to put it in > > contribs if no one wants to use it. > > well to be fair they are fairly widely used or at least qmail is. As Ihave > even contributed courier imap to rpmhelp before it made it to cooker contrib. > I and I would imagine others have been helping and using the packages for > some time. Oh, I know qmail is... I definitely know qmail is. =) I get lots of feedback on the qmail packages, but I've only heard from 2 people on the exim packages. There's probably more than 2 people, but I can't honestly know how many people are actually using them. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] [Bug 4770] [mc] make it default
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4770 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:55 --- mc is a compact general purpose tool, only one function of which is to easily find and repair config files with its intuitive interface and intuitive built in editor. The easy copy/move functions lend itself well to the back it up before modifying concept, which absolutely none of the GUI tools do. It doesn't require X, but is easily used to fix anything that can be fixed with a plain text editor. It's the swiss army knife of the Linux world. Sure a particular tool may be better for a particular purpose, but the swiss army knife is nevertheless suitable enough to include as standard issue, the best general purpose console tool, the best way to get about in general, to fix a broken lilo.conf or menu.lst, whether or not X is working. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: my oppinion is that midnight commander is a powerful console tool and should be selected by default! thanx
[Cooker] [Bug 5934] [drakxtools] Zeroconf fails to set hostname to Zeroconf hostname.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5934 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED Resolution|INVALID | --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:40 --- Damien, the fact that everyone seems to get this wrong indicates that the user interface is wrong. The zeroconf hostname is largely irrelevant to most people (since 95% of the desktops out there don't support zeroconf), whereas the hostname *is* very relevant (since it is shown in millions of places). You really need to making the setting of hostname most obvious. The zeroconf hostname will follow it by default. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Mandrake 9.2 RC2 If I enter a zeroconf hostname during install, my hostname is still set to "localhost" even though I specified a hostname. I can go and verify that the "Zeroconf Host name" is correctly set in "Network * Internet Configuration". In fact the text reads as follows; "Enter a Zeroconf host name without any dot if you don't want to use the default host name." So I have to add a hostname to "Host name" to get the host name I want.
[Cooker] [Bug 5872] [XFree86] Memory leak in X cursors (triggered by using themes)
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5872 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 Summary|X is gradually using up all |Memory leak in X cursors |memory |(triggered by using themes) --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:27 --- Let's confirm it, improve the summary, and hope someone can take a look at it. It would also be a good idea to search for other similar bugs (in XFree86 lists, cvs, etc and other distros etc) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: This problem exists in the 4.3-22 and 4.3-23 drivers. Whenever I log into X w/ KDE or Gnome within a matter of hours (2 usually) X uses up enough of the memory to hang the system. Currently it's at 46% usage, wait it went up to 59.5% and a couple minutes before it was at 50-ish % as well. Apparently the increased isn't steady. Not that it matters. The end result is always the same. I get this sound from my computer indicating that something is accessing the hard drive (kswapd?) like crazy and seconds to a minute after I have an unusable desktop. Usage is at 68% now so I better make this quick. This is how I reproduce it: log in to kde or gnome open up a file manager open up mozilla, x-chat, mcc and gaim. Sit back and watch the numbers go up. I actually did watch last time and it seemed to me to happen quicker when mozilla was open. I have the cool looking cursors installed for X too, come to think of it I don't think I was having these problems w/ the plain cursors. I'll switch them and see what happens. BTW whenever i do ALt+sysrq+i to kill X (cause ctrl-blah doesn't respond) i get taken to a garbled terminal. nvidia ti-4200 256 mb sdram ~500 mb swap happens when I use nv drivers or nvidia drivers. Can't think of anything else to help in troubleshooting X usage was 58% a couple secs ago now it's 67.4% This took me about 5-8 minutes to write.
[Cooker] [Bug 5975] [mozilla] Mozilla is crashing with j2re-1.4.2_01
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5975 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:23 --- Again, no problem on those two web sites.. Make sure you are using j2re >= 1.4.2_01 -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Step to reproduce: Install mozilla and j2re on your computer; Trye for exemple an applet from: http://www.popcap.com; mozilla will crash after a few moment. Try the same applet with konqueror and the same java package, it is working fine.
[Cooker] [Bug 4770] [mc] make it default
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4770 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:21 --- > # XFdrake --auto --expert > > Has never worked on my hardware, because all XFree configuration tools always > get it wrong on my hardware. I dont' expect XFdrake to do any after install > than before install. If XFdrake is capable of getting it right after install, > then it should be made to get it right during install. OK, so instead of fixing XFdrake on your hardware, we should make everyone install and use mc? Sorry Felix, but it works on every single machine I have tried it on (quite a few) and it works fine. It will even (IIRC) install the NVidia RPMS if necessary (if they are accessible via urpmi), and for boxed sets the user doesn't even need to know what the binary drivers are. Please, file a bug on XFdrake instead. > Besides, all of the above is really irrelevant to the value of mc as a support > and file maintenance tool. And so is the argument that mc is the best tool to use to fix X configurations. > mc is an invaluable generic support tool, I would agree it is "valuable", I personally find vim more invaluable, but this shows that these are opinions, not facts. > besides being among the best file managers, and it should be ready to go on > all systems at all times. I can't agree with that one. I may have mc on <10% of my systems, and I don't want it on them. > I shouldn't have to tell a newbie that in order to fix something, > something unrelated must be installed first, which is the problem created by > not installing mc by default. The sooner they learn to use urpmi, the better. Should I say that ksambaplugin should be installed by default so I don't have to tell newbies to install it to configure samba??? > I don't have any control over what packages the newbie > installed. My job is harder because the way I know how to best help didn't get > installed, and only because some people at Mandrake can find what they > personally feel are better ways to solve some particular problems, and think a > small generic tool is a waste of space. Your first approach should be to solve the problem in the most convenient way possible. Answering hundreds of support questions for 9.1 I have never had to tell a user to edit a config file on the console, since everything could be configured easily with the drakxtools (drakboot, XFdrake etc etc). Instead of labouring this point, could you file bugs on the hardware which cause the problems in the first place, so everyone can benefit? And I don't think that posting the FAQ from the software in question is a valid argument for having it installed by default. If it were, we would have to include everything in the distro by default. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: my oppinion is that midnight commander is a powerful console tool and should be selected by default! thanx
[Cooker] [Bug 5962] [mozilla] Mozilla has persistent "pop-under" windows on MDK
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5962 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Component|program |program Product|metacity|mozilla Version|2.6.1-1mdk |1.4-13mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:18 --- >From havoc comment on bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123209, it is a mozilla bug :(( -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: The preferences pane of Mozilla can popup all sorts of windows for detailed setup. Most of those popup properly, but some pop under the preferences pane, rendering them invisible (highly confusing) and they cannot be pulled over the preferences pane (an error). This occurs for the following windows: Certificates -> Manage Certificates Certificates -> Manage Security Devices Validation -> Manage CRLs The problem occurred to me under MDK-9.2-rc2 as well as MDK-9.1, but not under RedHat-8.0. This gives the impression that it is a Mandrake-specific problem. Falsification experiments by others are hereby invited :)
[Cooker] [Bug 6021] [OpenOffice.org] Bad UI font
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6021 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:13 --- Created an attachment (id=905) --> (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=905&action=view) OO in Polish -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: After fresh standard Cooker installation (25-09-2003) I have a bad UI font. Please check the attachment. Possible solutions is to disable Font Replacement in Options dialog. The PL-pl language is also affected. Can anobody from .pl or .sk confirm this problem?
[Cooker] [Bug 6021] [OpenOffice.org] Bad UI font
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6021 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:11 --- Created an attachment (id=904) --> (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=904&action=view) OO in Czech -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: After fresh standard Cooker installation (25-09-2003) I have a bad UI font. Please check the attachment. Possible solutions is to disable Font Replacement in Options dialog. The PL-pl language is also affected. Can anobody from .pl or .sk confirm this problem?
[Cooker] [Bug 6009] [evolution] Dropdown date selectors crash evolution
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6009 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:10 --- it is provided by libgal2.0 but it hasn't changed for a loong time.. Could you try the following : -evolution --force-shutdown -gconftool --shutdown -tar cjvf ~/evolution.tar.bz2 ~/evolution ~/.gconf/apps/evolution -mv evolution evolution.old -mv ~/.gconf/apps/evolution ~/evolution-gconf then run evolution, reconfigure it and see if it still fails.. If it doesn't, try to remove all sensitive infos from your tarball (account name, password, mails, etc..), make sure it fails with those files and attach it here so I could duplicate your problem.. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Opening the dropdown date selectors crashes evolution. To reproduce: Start evo. Select task view. Click the start date box to set a start date for a task. The calendar date selector starts to render, then evo crashes and goes away. Console output shows (evolution:3187): e-table-CRITICAL **: file e-table-item.c: line 1045 (eti_unfreeze): assertion `eti->frozen_count > 0' failed repeated about twelve times.
[Cooker] [Bug 6021] [OpenOffice.org] New: Bad UI font
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6021 Product: OpenOffice.org Component: i18n Summary: Bad UI font Product: OpenOffice.org Version: 1.1-0.rc4.2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P1 Component: i18n AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After fresh standard Cooker installation (25-09-2003) I have a bad UI font. Please check the attachment. Possible solutions is to disable Font Replacement in Options dialog. The PL-pl language is also affected. Can anobody from .pl or .sk confirm this problem? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Squid remote exploit/crash
Le Lundi 29 Septembre 2003 16:45, Buchan Milne a écrit : > > A problem : > > http://www.netsys.com/suse-linux-security/2001/09/msg00462.html > > A two-year old report? > > "From: Wolfram Schlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:54:06 +0200" > > "All versions including 2.4 are affected." > > We have 2.5stable3, I don't think this bug would have survived for 2 years? I apologize... I don't took care to the date. I have found this because this happens today to some servers, perhaps not updated. -- Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/ Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org/
[Cooker] [Bug 3567] [mozilla] Can't type in boxes in webpage
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3567 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 17:05 --- Thanks for trying Fred. I use KDE mostly, I will try GNOME or WM or something sometime and see if it makes a difference. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: After using mozilla for a time and using tabs, I loose the ability to be able to type anything in the boxes (address bar or text boxes, such as the one I am filling in now). The only fix has been to close and restart mozilla
Re: [Cooker] screem-0.8.1
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:17:32 + FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > see attached PHP file and screenshot -> > http://linux-wizard.tuxfamily.org/bugs/screem_bug.png > Now I completly understand to what you were referring. I am happy to report though that the problem was not caused by my build as the same problem exists in the RH rpm. Have contacted the screem-devel list and if/when I receive a reply/solution I will advise. Charles -- People are beginning to notice you. Try dressing before you leave the house. - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10.tmb.4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] [Bug 3176] [devfsd] devfsd has to be stopped to be able to use PCMCIA/compact flash card
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3176 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 16:56 --- Same here: Mandrake 9.1, Lexar PCMCIA Adapter, Sandisk and Sandisk Compact Flash Cards. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: When I put a PCMCIA/compact flash adaptator, with a compact flash card into it in my laptop (IBM Thinkpad 560Z), devfsd does the right symbolic links (I do not have a cdrom, so that hdc is taken for the compact flash card): /dev/hdc -> ide/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc /dev/hdc1 -> ide/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 But then, nothing happens if I try to access /dev/hdc1, for example mount -t msdos /dev/hdc1 /mnt/photo/ does nothing and gives no prompt. Once devfsd is manually stopped (service devfsd stop), /dev/hdc and /dev/hdc1 still point to the right things and the previous mount command works. Then you need to umount /dev/hdc1 and to restart devfsd. This is a bug and you should be able to let work the 'mount' command without stopping devfsd. The same bug existed with the devfsd version coming with LM9.0 There is no particular message in the /var/log/messages about this problem
[Cooker] [Bug 5975] [mozilla] Mozilla is crashing with j2re-1.4.2_01
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5975 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 16:55 --- Just tried www.popcap.com from here with exactly the same results, www.bbcworld.com amongst others crashes immediately on startup. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Step to reproduce: Install mozilla and j2re on your computer; Trye for exemple an applet from: http://www.popcap.com; mozilla will crash after a few moment. Try the same applet with konqueror and the same java package, it is working fine.
[Cooker] [Bug 6020] [gimp] New: circular Build dependency with printer-drivers
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6020 Product: gimp Component: packaging Summary: circular Build dependency with printer-drivers Product: gimp Version: 1.2.5-6mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] libgimpprint-devel is required to build gimp. This package is built by printer-drivers. Printer-drivers requires gimp-devel to be built. This results in a circular build dependency. Some package requested cannot be installed: gimp-1.2.5-6mdk.src (due to unsatisfied libgimpprint-devel[>= 4.2]) http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/urpmi/sparc/gimp-1.2.5-6mdk Some package requested cannot be installed: printer-drivers-1.0-116mdk.src (due to unsatisfied gimp-devel) http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/urpmi/sparc/printer-drivers-1.0-116mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6009] [evolution] Dropdown date selectors crash evolution
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6009 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 16:45 --- Did as you suggested. Still crashes. $ rpm -q evolution evolution-1.4.4-8mdk I took a look at the ximian bugs: 45528 is definitely not the same problem, and I can't reproduce the behavior described in 44994. Is there a different library that provides the calendar/date-selector? Perhaps the problem is there, rather than with Evolution? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Opening the dropdown date selectors crashes evolution. To reproduce: Start evo. Select task view. Click the start date box to set a start date for a task. The calendar date selector starts to render, then evo crashes and goes away. Console output shows (evolution:3187): e-table-CRITICAL **: file e-table-item.c: line 1045 (eti_unfreeze): assertion `eti->frozen_count > 0' failed repeated about twelve times.
Re: [Cooker] Squid remote exploit/crash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pierre Jarillon wrote: > A problem : > http://www.netsys.com/suse-linux-security/2001/09/msg00462.html > A two-year old report? "From: Wolfram Schlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:54:06 +0200" "All versions including 2.4 are affected." We have 2.5stable3, I don't think this bug would have survived for 2 years? - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/eEWArJK6UGDSBKcRAilLAKCP2puAmvrpctwRdeg2/HuDIAd3AgCffr01 FxBV2pm0YBOHuTl+cIiHfx0= =hEWM -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
[Cooker] [Bug 3567] [mozilla] Can't type in boxes in webpage
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3567 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 16:27 --- Buchan, I'm sorry, I've used mozilla as my only browser last week and I never encounter this bug :(( (and BTW, it was a real pain to use it, compared to galeon/epiphany :)) Could it be a problem triggered by window manager ? Guys, which window manager are you using when you get this focus loss ? Does switching to another WM fixes the problem ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: After using mozilla for a time and using tabs, I loose the ability to be able to type anything in the boxes (address bar or text boxes, such as the one I am filling in now). The only fix has been to close and restart mozilla
[Cooker] [Bug 6009] [evolution] Dropdown date selectors crash evolution
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6009 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 16:22 --- Very strange, I did that and I don't see any crash.. First, check you are running evolution-1.4.4-8mdk package. >From Ximian bugzilla, your bug could be either http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=45528 or http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=44994 Could you try : -run evolution --force-shutdown -move files from ~/evolution/views/tasks in another directory -run evolution if it works, could you try to attach a tarball of those files here ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Opening the dropdown date selectors crashes evolution. To reproduce: Start evo. Select task view. Click the start date box to set a start date for a task. The calendar date selector starts to render, then evo crashes and goes away. Console output shows (evolution:3187): e-table-CRITICAL **: file e-table-item.c: line 1045 (eti_unfreeze): assertion `eti->frozen_count > 0' failed repeated about twelve times.
[Cooker] [Bug 5989] [gdm] gdm doesn't refresh themes
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5989 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 16:04 --- ok, deleting the mdk default didn't help because then it just chose the gnome default and after I deleted that one it wouldn't bring up the graphical chooser anymore so now i'm just using the normal one. I'll reinstall and see what happens. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: gdm doesn't refresh the themes when choosing a different one. As a matter of fact it can't be change at all to anything, it just stays at the mdk defualt. That's why I'm deleting the mdk login and seeing what happens.
[Cooker] [Bug 6009] [evolution] Dropdown date selectors crash evolution
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6009 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 16:03 --- > I must be dumb because I can't duplicate this crash.. I wish everyone I worked with was so diplomatic. What exactly are you looking for in a test scenario? I'm running 9.2RC2 with all updates current through yesterday. 1. Open Evolution. 2. Select File->New->Task. 3. Click on down arrow to the right of the "Start Date" box, to open the date selector. The "Now", "Today", and "Close" buttons get drawn. Then Evolution, and the unfinished date selector box, disappear. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Opening the dropdown date selectors crashes evolution. To reproduce: Start evo. Select task view. Click the start date box to set a start date for a task. The calendar date selector starts to render, then evo crashes and goes away. Console output shows (evolution:3187): e-table-CRITICAL **: file e-table-item.c: line 1045 (eti_unfreeze): assertion `eti->frozen_count > 0' failed repeated about twelve times.
[Cooker] [Bug 5989] [gdm] gdm doesn't refresh themes
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5989 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 15:53 --- Work fine here.. Of course, you must click on the radio button in Graphical banner list to get it selected (just selecting a theme in the list will display it in the preview pane.) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: gdm doesn't refresh the themes when choosing a different one. As a matter of fact it can't be change at all to anything, it just stays at the mdk defualt. That's why I'm deleting the mdk login and seeing what happens.
[Cooker] [Bug 6009] [evolution] Dropdown date selectors crash evolution
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6009 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 15:50 --- I must be dumb because I can't duplicate this crash.. Could you give me a full detailed test case scenario ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Opening the dropdown date selectors crashes evolution. To reproduce: Start evo. Select task view. Click the start date box to set a start date for a task. The calendar date selector starts to render, then evo crashes and goes away. Console output shows (evolution:3187): e-table-CRITICAL **: file e-table-item.c: line 1045 (eti_unfreeze): assertion `eti->frozen_count > 0' failed repeated about twelve times.
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs
Le lun 29/09/2003 à 15:40, Pierre BETOUIN a écrit : > > > Can you give me more informations ? > Thanks. > > Pierre 2 solutions for U : 1 - you are a club member and you'll be able to download the iso past 15th of october. 2 - you are not a member (so you are suggested to become one ...) and you'll need to wait until the end of october to get them (when packs will be ready). Strange policy when said a fortiori, from my point of view. Please don't answer this mail now, it was just information for him. More details (long thread) at : http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-09/msg06384.php Stef PS : it is suggested also that 'contributors' should have it at the same time as club members ... -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] 9.2 ISOs
Hello, I were on holidays, so i've lost a lot of mail, including cooker ones... I may have miss a mail on the ML, but i'm searching for 9.2 ISOs. As i read on mdk web site : " Next ISOs of Mandrake 9.2 Download Edition will be available for Club Members and all people who have contributed to the new version (including developers and translators), prior to retail packs and public download release. This new policy was strongly suggested by Club Members for a long time. It is now possible to offer this opportunity with the new BitTorrent technology. Mandrake 9.2 ISO images will be released in advance to Mandrake Club users, hopefully before October 15th, when all last tests will have been achieved. Thanks to all people who made possible this new promising release of Mandrake Linux. MandrakeSoft Team. Discussions & comments at MandrakeClub. Join the Club at this page. " Can you give me more informations ? Thanks. Pierre -- Pierre BETOUIN GnuPG key : lynx -dump perso.club-internet.fr/unsignedchr/GnupgKey.asc | gpg --import signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?=
[Cooker] Squid remote exploit/crash
A problem : http://www.netsys.com/suse-linux-security/2001/09/msg00462.html -- Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/ Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org/
[Cooker] [Bug 5975] [mozilla] Mozilla is crashing with j2re-1.4.2_01
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5975 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-09 15:30 --- Works fine here.. I need a FULL test case scenario .. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Step to reproduce: Install mozilla and j2re on your computer; Trye for exemple an applet from: http://www.popcap.com; mozilla will crash after a few moment. Try the same applet with konqueror and the same java package, it is working fine.
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:55, Buchan Milne wrote: > This has no bearing on the matter, since we build against libcups. If > we didn't, you wouldn't require any printing-related software > installed. If libcups2 isn't exclusive of any of the other printing systems, is it such a big problem to install it? All it requires is some near-universal graphics, crypto and compression libraries. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] screem-0.8.1
Le lun 29/09/2003 à 12:35, Charles A Edwards a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:28:14 + > FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > no way. still no syntax color highlighting with PHP/CSS. I disable > > then enable in preferences, but no color ... > > Do you still receive any error/warnings when launching screem or > when rendering PHP/CSS? no more error messages. > To understand if my install exhibits the same as yours can you send a > link which manifests the behavior. see attached PHP file and screenshot -> http://linux-wizard.tuxfamily.org/bugs/screem_bug.png Note : I've just install bluefish and it's working well --- les amis puiske c comme ca je vais sur #windows - #linuxfr comptabilite.php Description: application/php