Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] automated testing (was: Replacing proftpd)
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:38, Vincent Danen wrote: Build output is great, but if an app doesn't work and no one tries it, what good is it? Ie. on Corp 2.1/x86_64 apparently no one tried to do a search in joe... it segfaults every time. Now, granted, not too many people were able to test that (from my understanding) but a simple rebuild wouldn't have shown that as being a problem. rpmlint could be happier than sin, slbd could tell you nothing, but unless someone has written a program to fire up a program and fiddle with it automatically and then notify you if there is a problem or something doesn't operate properly *before* making it publically available, there isn't much point to an automatic rebuild. Auto rebuilds are great for cross-platform *current* development but trust me... they will absolutely cause nightmares for backporting to older releases. It shouldn't be hard to bodgy up something to test command-line and curses apps, as in, you walk through a series of tests and record what happened, the framework then feeds in the same events and whinges if the output (and maybe changes to files) isn't the same. That wouldn't guarantee that everything was good, but it would show up obvious problems a lot sooner. To some extent you could do the same with X stuff, although there would be a disadvantage in that things like widgets might change with theming or different versions of the window manager or widget libraries, but you couldn't draw a line around the widgets and tell the test framework to ignore them 'coz the app might break the widgets too. You could semi-automate the tests so that the framework highlighted differences and the operator could say yea or nay (or for something like a clock, draw a line around it and say ignore this). None of this would replace manual testing, but it would whoosh through a lot of the boring stuff, saving the, er, interesting bugs for real eyeballs and brains. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:29:11PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: Some, not all. If packages were done to handle old versions while working with the current, this would be a different story. But this can be very difficult... I have some specs that can rebuild on older distribs and some of them are *very* convoluted. Take my qmail packages for example... before some of the pain could be eased if we had an updated rpm package for older versions (supported older versions, i mean, not 7.2) that levels the packaging macros to 9.2 I don't believe there is anyone enjoying having to mantain 4 different packages of the same software when one would suffice. Probably not. But if you, as a contributor, have a cooker machine and compile on cooker, how can you possibly know if your package, despite having conditional build macros, will work with an older distrib if you don't take the time to build and test on that old platform? So you *do* need to maintain it in such a manner otherwise you're just pumping out stuff that pretends to work on old distribs and you really don't have a clue if it does or not. Yes, i do need to test and to maintain a package in such a manner. during last development cycle i had a 9.0 mail/web-server, a 9.1 laptop and a cooker box at home, and i usually tested stuff there. But that was from the same package, not different specs with different patches for each release. The problem for me will be when i upgrade the server to 9.2 :( Btw, some packages in contrib are very well packaged and maintained, some are playground for new features and some just suck, maybe splitting contrib in sections based on package quality and starting to maintain updates only for the stable part of contrib could be a start. (if this has already been discussed just shoot at me and i will shut up) Would other contributors be adverse on taking the commitment of maintaining 'stable' packages for 'supported' version of mandrake (that should be 18 months or 3 releases IIRC)? regards, L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:33:08PM -0400, Austin wrote: You are all missing the easiest solution: --- unite contib and main --- you are obviously joking. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Encrypted partitions with Mandrake?
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, lamikr_mdk wrote: Thanks, that was exactly the way how I would actually like to make the partition. Can I ask some more questions... What tools you use/did use for initializing the keys, creating the 2 GB file and for mounting that file as a partition. Err - that's a tricky one. So long ago :-) I *think* I grabbed an RPM - mkcryptfs from someplace. I'm operating remotely right now - I'll be back in Australia next week and can less painfully check. But have a look for mkcryptfs, it's just a script. That helped to googling. I found following page which contains instructions: http://openpgp.vie-privee.org/linux_en.html According to page the password must always be atleast 20 characters long just like you descriped... :-( Mika Perhaps one of you can add a short howto on the community wiki? d.
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Vincent Danen wrote: I didn't know we were in a contest for the number of packages we provided. I thought the question was quality, not quantity. that sounds good and all, but when you think about it, actually, it is quality+quantity :P d.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:09:58PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wed Oct 01, 2003 at 08:53:55PM +0200, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Oh yeah, I know this attitude ;-) I also know where your annoyance comes from. But you shouldn't feel threatened by or superior to cooker people trying to help mandrake succeed! In a lot of cases, the only way outsiders Well, I've never felt superior, and I certainly don't feel threatened. Annoyed more often would likely be accurate. I guess my wording sucked, but I'm not sure how else to put it (not native english speaker me ;-) Now, if you want to whine and complain and offer suggestions for improvement (*valid* useful suggestions, not some off the wall stuff), then by all means, moan to your heart's content knowing that when you do you're actually contributing something that can become positive. I don't really have the feeling that there is so much whining here, but maybe it's not directed at me... People have their particular opinions/experiences and stick to that, which can appear to be whining-like. No, I don't expect a lot of yah, it works, good job bla bla. That's just silly. That, while being nice and giving incentive to weary developers, is not the issue. But don't people here understand how unbelieveably frustrating it is to come up with something and/or propose something and have people tear into it without providing some alternative suggestions? Putting forward stuff to better the distro and/or the company is great! Putting forward negative without an alternative or way to correct an issue does no one any good. sometimes knowing something is broken for at least one person is better than not knowing it, even if no suggestion or alternative is provided. A next step could be to ask for more input on the problem, but that takes time and effort. Which can be in short supply... I can tell you till I'm blue in the face why something is awful, but if I don't give you a reasonable alternative to what it is I'm venting about, what's the point? I least I'd know you hate it! ;-) Absolutely. But that's not what we're talking about. My point is that this list is so full of negative and people responding badly to things without providing some appropriate insight or alternatives that it makes reading the list tiresome. I doubt people on this list are negative in general or on purpose. If someone was on the list just to whine, they'd be pretty masochistic, since the traffic is way too heavy to suffer through when you don't care for the welbeing of mandrake and it's developers. But maybe I'm an optimist ;-) Cheers Simon
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
Buchan Milne wrote: If you mean that it's final place should be on a website/wiki, then IMHO http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca is currently a better place (and you will get a password immediately). Thanks, I did not know that one. Guillaume : I could begin there, and once finished, we could report it on urpmi.org. But another place would be Mandrakeclub : there is a doc section, and mandrake tools should be visible where the newbies come first. Eric
Re: [Cooker] urpmi and 9.2 updates curious
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vincent, how do you fixed it ? For 8.2-9.1 I do: genhdlist /mnt/BIG2/updates/[dist] For 9.2 I have to do: genhdlist /mnt/BIG2/updates/9.2/RPMS So something in 9.2 changed. And not in the installer. Ok, I see the point, I used genhdlist (which I guess has not be modified for months, but I used the one of 9.2) in both case and it produced the good files whatever the directory parameters is given... I'm using the same genhdlist (the host OS is corp 2.1, so 9.0-based). If I need to use a 9.2 genhdlist, you need to tell me this. =) genhdlist of 9.0 is exactly the same as genhdlist of 9.2 (same md5sum) but the underlying libraries have been modified, it could be the cause ? Why don't you make genhdlist /mnt/BIG2/updates/9.1/RPMS ? it should have been done that way no ? because by doing it the way you are doing them now, list file are wrong. If you have an error message, let me known what it is. François.
Re: [Cooker] kernel-win4lin-source
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: Is there a kernel-win4lin-source rpm for the purpose of installing nVidia drivers. No need, just use the kernel-source rpm for the kernel the win4lin kernel is built against. I would suggest installing all other kernel-dependent things first, since depmod can't resolve dependencies in the win4lin kernel modules (unless you are careful in the way you do it). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/e/xrrJK6UGDSBKcRAiMaAKC9lJlBqevfAkNUrXF4MWdh5dv1xACfTJWN c6PLkbHzSPX18yLSY7RG2UQ= =OB62 -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Fernandez wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: If you mean that it's final place should be on a website/wiki, then IMHO http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca is currently a better place (and you will get a password immediately). Thanks, I did not know that one. Guillaume : I could begin there, and once finished, we could report it on urpmi.org. But another place would be Mandrakeclub : there is a doc section, and mandrake tools should be visible where the newbies come first. I have added docs to MandrakeClub, and to the Mandrake Community Wiki, and I don't think you can compare the two fairly at present. Abusing the splatt forum for documentation results is a worse tool than a wiki. I had asked Deno about a wiki for the documentation section on Club, but he didn't have time to look at it. - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/e/6BrJK6UGDSBKcRAgWZAKCfpMgc3oYEsjBX4raonJpxXwIniQCgonrL nl2xU4pYH9y8Smd2BUKZdoI= =EqV2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
Buchan Milne wrote: I have added docs to MandrakeClub, and to the Mandrake Community Wiki, and I don't think you can compare the two fairly at present. Abusing the splatt forum for documentation results is a worse tool than a wiki. I had asked Deno about a wiki for the documentation section on Club, but he didn't have time to look at it. Now we could ask Stephane, the new webmaster of the club. I shall get in touch with him. Eric
Re: [Cooker] kernel-win4lin-source
On Thursday 02 October 2003 06:22, Buchan Milne wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: Is there a kernel-win4lin-source rpm for the purpose of installing nVidia drivers. No need, just use the kernel-source rpm for the kernel the win4lin kernel is built against. I would suggest installing all other kernel-dependent things first, since depmod can't resolve dependencies in the win4lin kernel modules (unless you are careful in the way you do it). This time I was just going to use your kernel instead of building my own, but I have to install the nVidia binary drivers also, so I need the kernel-source installed. I didn't realize at first that the kernel source for the win4lin kernel is the same as the kernel-source for the stock mdk kernel. In the past, I patched and built a kernel and then installed the nVidia drivers and have never had any problems with module dependencies. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] kernel-win4lin-source
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 02 October 2003 06:22, Buchan Milne wrote: This time I was just going to use your kernel instead of building my own, but I have to install the nVidia binary drivers also, so I need the kernel-source installed. I didn't realize at first that the kernel source for the win4lin kernel is the same as the kernel-source for the stock mdk kernel. In the past, I patched and built a kernel and then installed the nVidia drivers and have never had any problems with module dependencies. Actually, it's really only an issue when installing kernel modules via rpm: $ rpm -q --scripts NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22-9mdk postinstall scriptlet (using /bin/sh): depmod -a -F /boot/System.map-2.4.22-9mdk 2.4.22-9mdk ||: insmod nvidia 2/dev/null /dev/null || : postuninstall scriptlet (using /bin/sh): depmod -a -F /boot/System.map-2.4.22-9mdk 2.4.22-9mdk ||: rmmod nvidia 2/dev/null The normal System.map doesn't know some things about the win4lin kernel modules. If you manually run depmod when booted on the win4lin kernel, it should be ok. But it does mean that installing other modules via rpm is not as easy as it should be ... Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/fA8IrJK6UGDSBKcRAljzAKDMbsT1eaT63moxtC9GVaEFnBFNzQCePkSd zvZoO8ZDkqql1jgBz6OsT80= =qvKx -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
[Cooker] [Bug 6040] [libkdemultimedia1-common-devel] New: missing shared library symlink
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6040 Product: libkdemultimedia1-common-devel Component: packaging Summary: missing shared library symlink Product: libkdemultimedia1-common-devel Version: 3.1.3-16mdk Platform: Sun OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm can't be installed, because it's missing devel(libartsmodules). This is caused by /usr/lib/libartsmodules.so missing from libkdemultimedia1-common-devel. Other symlinks seem to be missing as well: devel(libartsbuilder) devel(libartsgui) devel(libartsgui_idl) devel(libartsgui_kde) devel(libartsmidi_idl) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] [PRINTERDRAKE] Network Printer détection
Le mer 01/10/2003 à 18:57, Charles A Edwards a écrit : You are using DHCP are you not? No, only static IP. If you are manually having to enter the address each time you can fix that in printerdrake/Configure Cups/Additional Cups server/Add server and entering the address there. I don't want to set other cups server. I just want that printerdrake detect my network printers as this is what printerdrake is supposed to do ...
Re: [Cooker] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/
Le mer 01/10/2003 à 20:07, Felix Miata a écrit : jokerman64 wrote: You can find an (en home only) version legible without need to use zoom, regardless of default font size, resolution, or DPI at: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/MandrakeLinux-en.html This one is much better. Bold fonts for title, etc ... very fine. --- Lorsque la chance nous sourit, nous rencontrons des amis; lorsqu'elle est contre nous, une jolie femme. Proverbe Chinois
[Cooker] Plastik Theme
Hi I was just wondering if anyone could add the plastik theme for kde into cooker Only the style has been added so far I've tried compiling it my self but I get strange errors Thanks again Mike
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
Ainsi parlait Vincent Danen : On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 12:47:50AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: I don't believe there is anyone enjoying having to mantain 4 different packages of the same software when one would suffice. Probably not. But if you, as a contributor, have a cooker machine and compile on cooker, how can you possibly know if your package, despite having conditional build macros, will work with an older distrib if you don't take the time to build and test on that old platform? So you *do* need to maintain it in such a manner otherwise you're just pumping out stuff that pretends to work on old distribs and you really don't have a clue if it does or not. But, the point is that if people are interested in maintaining their packages for rebuild on older releases, then it may be possible to make this easier by having automated rebuilds on stable releases. Yes, but don't you understand that automatic rebuilds is not enough? It needs to be *tested* first. I didn't pretend it was enough, just that getting stable versions for free, without any additional human resources need, would be a gain over current situation. It would not bring an updated version of stable distribution for sure, but at least provide packages with far better chance of working on stable version that cooker packages. And nothing prevent packagers from testing on stable, as well as they are testing on cooker. -- The Cavalry doesn't always come to the rescue -- Murphy's Military Laws n°76
Re: [Cooker] Plastik Theme
Le Thursday 02 October 2003 15:45, Michael Lothian a écrit : Hi I was just wondering if anyone could add the plastik theme for kde into cooker Only the style has been added so far I've tried compiling it my self but I get strange errors Thanks again Mike It will be into kde 3.2 so please don't have it into cooker. Regards.
Re: [Cooker] [PRINTERDRAKE] Network Printer détection
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:40:14 + FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to set other cups server. I just want that printerdrake detect my network printers as this is what printerdrake is supposed to do ... I agree, that is what I would also like. I'm using DHCP with static IP and zero.config/tmdms sucks for that If a networked scanner can be detected you would think that they could fix it so that static IP printers still could. Charles -- Fortune's real live weird band names #624: Sister Run Naked - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10.tmb.4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On 10/02/2003 01:41:29 AM, Vincent Danen wrote: Ok, then people need to specify which wiki they're talking about. On the expert list, unless otherwise stated, people are talking about the community wiki. On this list, I assume (unless otherwise stated) that they're referring to the cooker wiki... this is, after all, the cooker mailing list and we are, after all, discussing cooker. =) Woh. You lost me. That other wiki is there other than the community wiki (qa.mandrakesoft.com/ wiki)? Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
Ainsi parlait Luca Berra : Would other contributors be adverse on taking the commitment of maintaining 'stable' packages for 'supported' version of mandrake (that should be 18 months or 3 releases IIRC)? Yes, unless someone give me the means to test those packages. I only run cooker for my desktops, and stable for my servers. I don't want to maitain three other versions just to test packages. Morevoer, the more version you want to support, the more difficult it is. Given the current mdk policy of releasing often, and the current situation of no support at all (security excepted), supporting lastest stable version only seems for me an achievable goal, not three. -- Any cool program always requires more memory than you have. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°2
[Cooker] Re: [Cooker] [PRINTERDRAKE] Network Printer détection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:40:14 + FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to set other cups server. I just want that printerdrake detect my network printers as this is what printerdrake is supposed to do ... I agree, that is what I would also like. I'm using DHCP with static IP and zero.config/tmdms sucks for that No, it's drakconnect that's the problem ... If a networked scanner can be detected you would think that they could fix it so that static IP printers still could. It did on 9.1 AFAIK, but we don't have such a printer any more (the only one we had was a Xerox DocumentCenter on demo). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/fCsprJK6UGDSBKcRAlaqAKCfJG+CAJMnIQpEJLmJSm02iZCjGwCgzJyV jfexkd0dtpqyBksY6FN6xg8= =ZXze -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On 10/02/2003 01:52:33 AM, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wed Oct 01, 2003 at 04:33:08PM -0400, Austin wrote: You are all missing the easiest solution: --- unite contib and main --- No way in hell... not the way things currently stand. The only drawbacks would be: - more security updates (this could lead to safer distro though, ditch the unsafe apps altogether) Really? Some of those things are in contribs for precisely that reason... people need/want the apps but we've recognized them as being unsafe(ish). Which would involve more QA, more testing, more post-release support, more developers paying attention to what's in contribs, and just plain old more of everything. Which would not be a problem if we had fewer packges AND more help, right? Both of these things are possible in the future. The more packages we provide, the more room for error, the more bugs, the more post-release support, the more QA, the more testing, the more validation... can I say more more more? =) More support, more QA, more testing, and more validation sounds like a GOOD thing to me... I didn't know we were in a contest for the number of packages we provided. I thought the question was quality, not quantity. It's not a contest. It's letting the end user get his work done. I don't know if you're in any LUG's or other mailing lists, but most people I get support questions from DON'T use contribs. They download single RPMs, frig around with dependencies, then nothing works, then they ask for help. Why the hell can we ship them contrib apps on a CD, but not have an automated way for them to setup a contrib repository at installation time? (No, urpmi. setup is not an obvious command for a new user to run) SNF is dead. MNF still exists, and Corporate Server is what you mean to refer to (MNF is not server-specific, it's application-specific). Okay, let me rephrase. There could be a server-specific version without the contribs stuff. I am not at all interested in supporting a merger of contribs and main unless there is a *lot* more help in supporting it. It would not be possible otherwise... I wasn't proposing doing it tomorrow. If 9.2 gets lots of press, and we publicise the wiki as much as possible, and we make it easy and inviting for new contributors (it's not exactly so now), we should be able to attract more help, them people like Gotz, Per Oyvind, and i wouldn't have _hundreds_ of packages each to maintain, and maybe we could do a better job of stabilizing them and supporting them. Anyway, it's a concept, not a proposal to unite the two repositories tomorrow. Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] Plastik Theme
Laurent Montel wrote: Le Thursday 02 October 2003 15:45, Michael Lothian a écrit : Hi I was just wondering if anyone could add the plastik theme for kde into cooker Only the style has been added so far I've tried compiling it my self but I get strange errors Thanks again Mike It will be into kde 3.2 so please don't have it into cooker. Regards. When will KDE 3.2 be on cooker?
[Cooker] [Bug 6041] [gnome-db] New: DOC_DIR is incorrect in %makeinstall
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6041
Product: gnome-db
Component: packaging
Summary: DOC_DIR is incorrect in %makeinstall
Product: gnome-db
Version: 0.2.96-9mdk
Platform: PC
URL: http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/i586/problem/gnom
e-db-0.2.96-9mdk
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The DOC_DIR is set incorrectly so the %makeinstall fails. Affects all platforms.
This diff fixes it:
$ diff gnome-db.spec.orig gnome-db.spec
15c15
Release: 9mdk
---
Release: 10mdk
103c103
%makeinstall_std DOC_DIR=%{_datadir}/gnome/html
---
%makeinstall_std DOC_DIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_datadir}/gnome/html
177a178,180
* Thu Oct 02 2003 Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.2.96-10mdk
- fix install path for docs
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Re: [Cooker] Encrypted partitions with Mandrake?
Thomas Backlund wrote: See http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README for details? This is supported in MDK kernels... Yes, since 8.2, and it is really cool to support this out-of-the-box (SuSE does, but RedHat doesn't). Swap can also be encrypted (in your /etc/fstab, at the swap line, replace defaults by encrypted and reboot). But remember to come back to defaults before you upgrade your Mandrake 9.1 in 9.2 ! The problem with encrypted FS is : how to create easily the encrypted folder or the encrypted partition ? - Encrypted folder : mkcryptfs is a little script to help the creation (RPM noarch.mdk available at https://www.bouissou.net/wws/d_read/open-crypto/linux-crypto/mkcryptfs - Encrypted partition : during installation, Diskdrake supports the encrypted partition creation (choose custom partitionning, then options, then encrypted) for /home and /tmp, but unfortunately NOT for the /var partition. -- pplf - French OpenPGP page[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP en francais PGP: 8263 8399 2074 5277 a6d3 http://www.openpgp.fr.st 622d 1b66 ea3d caa0 8c94 Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.
Re: [Cooker] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:42:47PM +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mer 01/10/2003 ? 20:07, Felix Miata a ?crit : jokerman64 wrote: You can find an (en home only) version legible without need to use zoom, regardless of default font size, resolution, or DPI at: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/MandrakeLinux-en.html This one is much better. Bold fonts for title, etc ... very fine. Since we're apparently debugging the website now ;-) I think the main page of mandrake is way too cluttered. I never look at it, because of this. Why not keep the page smaller and link too more specific pages? Cheers Simon
Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.
FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 16:09, Laurent Montel a écrit : Hi, I created all kde-3.2-alpha2 for MDK9.2 just for test. For the moment MDK menu doesn't work. I reapplyed 50 patchs from 400. Must be part of these patch : doesn't show supermount devices ( floppy cdrom ) on desktop and in devices services ( sidebar ) Where are the KDE 3.2 rpms? Thanks
Re: [Cooker] Plastik Theme
Le Thursday 02 October 2003 17:07, Michael Lothian a écrit : Laurent Montel wrote: Le Thursday 02 October 2003 15:45, Michael Lothian a écrit : Hi I was just wondering if anyone could add the plastik theme for kde into cooker Only the style has been added so far I've tried compiling it my self but I get strange errors Thanks again Mike It will be into kde 3.2 so please don't have it into cooker. Regards. When will KDE 3.2 be on cooker? When cooker will open...
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:01:39 -0400 Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/02/2003 01:52:33 AM, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wed Oct 01, 2003 at 04:33:08PM -0400, Austin wrote: You are all missing the easiest solution: --- unite contib and main --- No way in hell... not the way things currently stand. The only drawbacks would be: - more security updates (this could lead to safer distro though, ditch the unsafe apps altogether) Really? Some of those things are in contribs for precisely that reason... people need/want the apps but we've recognized them as being unsafe(ish). Which would involve more QA, more testing, more post-release support, more developers paying attention to what's in contribs, and just plain old more of everything. Which would not be a problem if we had fewer packges AND more help, right? Both of these things are possible in the future. The more packages we provide, the more room for error, the more bugs, the more post-release support, the more QA, the more testing, the more validation... can I say more more more? =) More support, more QA, more testing, and more validation sounds like a GOOD thing to me... But who is gonna do it? At the moment Vincent is doing updates for stable releases. Doubling the packages with packages from contrib will double the number of packages, but quadruple the work, or even worse. Who is gonna do that if it's not Vincent? -- Marcel Pol
Re: [Cooker] Plastik Theme
On Thursday 02 October 2003 8:45 am, Michael Lothian wrote: Hi I was just wondering if anyone could add the plastik theme for kde into cooker Only the style has been added so far I've tried compiling it my self but I get strange errors Thanks again Mike It is already in contribs. Package, kdemoreartwork-plastik But the one on texstar's repository is more up to date. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.2/rpms/ -- Bret Baptist Systems and Technical Support Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Exposure, Inc. http://www.iexposure.com (612)676-1946 x17 Web Development-Web Marketing-ISP Services -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
[Cooker] [Bug 6038] [drakxtools] /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ scripts not run
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6038 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 12:19 --- this is an initscripts bug, can u change the product name ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Sorry if this is the wrong product, but rpmdrake doesn't show anyone admitting to ownership of /etc/ppp/ip-up... /etc/ppp/ip-up is run by ppp when IP traffic starts flowing on an interface. Part of what the MDK version is supposed to do is run any scripts in the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ directory. But there appears to be an error in line 28 which keeps this from happening: if [ -d /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ -x /usr/bin/run-parts ]; then /usr/bin/run-parts /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ fi The directory is there, and run-parts is executable, but it's not getting run. I changed this to if [ -d /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ ] [ -x /usr/bin/run-parts ]; then /usr/bin/run-parts /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ fi and it worked fine. In ip-down, the corresponding statement reads if [ -d /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/ -a -x /usr/bin/run-parts ]; then /usr/bin/run-parts /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/ fi so the problem is probably the missing -a .
Re: [Cooker] Plastik Theme
Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 14:12, Laurent Montel a écrit : Le Thursday 02 October 2003 17:07, Michael Lothian a écrit : When will KDE 3.2 be on cooker? When cooker will open... And when will cooker open ? --- y'a la cable tele pas moyen de le hacker pour chopper internet ? - #linuxfr
Re: [Cooker] Plastik Theme
Laurent Montel wrote: When cooker will open... Maybe we could provide a flamethrower to warly to help him unfreezing main :)
[Cooker] Please excuse my ignorance.........
Title: Please excuse my ignorance. I am brand new to the Cooker scene and am having trouble finding the most effective way (not to mention reliable FTP site) to keep updated. Can anyone please send me their procedures that they feel work the best? A list of RELIABLE FTP sites in the eastern half of the US would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Steve
Re: [Cooker] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Felix Miata wrote: You can find an (en home only) version legible without need to use zoom, regardless of default font size, resolution, or DPI at: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/MandrakeLinux-en.html Now who's going to volunteer for the tableless CSS version? ;-) Actually I'm pecking on that one too. Dunno if or when I'll have something to show. That's a much bigger project than changing a few fonts. There are 30 tables on that page. :-( -- The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom Proverbs 9:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/auth.html
Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.
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Re: [Cooker] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/
Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 14:19, Simon Oosthoek a écrit : On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:42:47PM +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mer 01/10/2003 ? 20:07, Felix Miata a ?crit : Since we're apparently debugging the website now ;-) I think the main page of mandrake is way too cluttered. I never look at it, because of this. Why not keep the page smaller and link too more specific pages? Linux-mandrake.com should look more professional, more clearer but with the community spirit. The real professionnel site is mandrakesoft.com. At this time is good but it could be better. Have a look at RH site, or Suse site ( the best one ) or lindows site.
[Cooker] [Bug 6010] [libapr0] ApacheBench does not work
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6010 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||LATER --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 12:40 --- Fixed in ASF CVS, I don't know when 2.0.48 is to be released. Meanwhile please use this tarball: http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/ab.tar.gz -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: I have upgraded it to the latest version, and ApacheBench (/usr/sbin/ab) does not work anymore. It seems it can't connect to any socket. For example : ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] data]# /usr/sbin/ab -v 5 -n 1 http://127.0.0.1/; This is ApacheBench, Version 2.0.40-dev $Revision: 1.121.2.1 $ apache-2.0 Copyright (c) 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/ Copyright (c) 1998-2002 The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/ Benchmarking 127.0.0.1 (be patient)...INFO: POST header == --- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: ApacheBench/2.0.40-dev Host: 127.0.0.1 Accept: */* --- apr_poll: The timeout specified has expired (70007) [EMAIL PROTECTED] data]# /usr/sbin/ab -v 5 -n 1 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/; This is ApacheBench, Version 2.0.40-dev $Revision: 1.121.2.1 $ apache-2.0 Copyright (c) 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/ Copyright (c) 1998-2002 The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/ Benchmarking www.mandrakelinux.com (be patient)...INFO: POST header == --- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: ApacheBench/2.0.40-dev Host: www.mandrakelinux.com Accept: */* --- apr_poll: The timeout specified has expired (70007) *** Of course, the Web sites are perfectly reachable using a browser. Also, directly telnetting the header lines mentionned by ApacheBench works too. Endly, the Apache 2 server itself does work, only /usr/sbin/ab is broken.
Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.
Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 15:19, Michael Lothian a écrit : Where are the KDE 3.2 rpms? you'd better not use them. Very unstable and buggy ... quanta unusable sometimes when you download files, the dialog don't close ( no button, can't be close with the button in title bar ) and you need to quit download manager ( see systray ) k3b crash when you try to access preferences ( even if you donwgrade with k3b_0.10cvs menu is incomplete most mimetype are lost ( xmms no longer associated with .pls, xine not in menu, the same for xmms ) gtk apps are not themed which make them look ugly :( I advise you to wait for final laurent kde3.2 rpms as it will apply many patch and will be surely updated from cvs and thus will have less bugs. --- Les taxis de la Marne ont fait la guerre. Alors moi je rigole quand je vois un taxi qui a peur d'aller en banlieue.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 05:42:22AM -0400, Austin wrote:
Ok, then people need to specify which wiki they're talking about. On the
expert list, unless otherwise stated, people are talking about the
community
wiki. On this list, I assume (unless otherwise stated) that they're
referring to the cooker wiki... this is, after all, the cooker mailing list
and we are, after all, discussing cooker. =)
Woh. You lost me.
That other wiki is there other than the community wiki
(qa.mandrakesoft.com/ wiki)?
This is what I meant. =) The above is the cooker wiki... the community
wiki is http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/
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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 03:32:46PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
I don't believe there is anyone enjoying having to mantain 4
different packages of the same software when one would suffice.
Probably not. But if you, as a contributor, have a cooker machine and
compile on cooker, how can you possibly know if your package, despite
having conditional build macros, will work with an older distrib if you
don't take the time to build and test on that old platform? So you
*do* need to maintain it in such a manner otherwise you're just pumping
out stuff that pretends to work on old distribs and you really don't
have a clue if it does or not.
But, the point is that if people are interested in maintaining their
packages for rebuild on older releases, then it may be possible to make
this easier by having automated rebuilds on stable releases.
Yes, but don't you understand that automatic rebuilds is not enough? It
needs to be *tested* first.
I didn't pretend it was enough, just that getting stable versions for free,
without any additional human resources need, would be a gain over current
situation.
It would not bring an updated version of stable distribution for sure, but at
least provide packages with far better chance of working on stable version
that cooker packages.
And nothing prevent packagers from testing on stable, as well as they are
testing on cooker.
Right, and this is the part about Club packaging that makes sense. It goes
into a testing repository first and people try it out and vote on it,
understanding that it's in testing. Once enough people have tested it and
it's ok, it goes into Club stable.
My problem is with just pumping out rebuilt stuff, without testing, and
throwing them into a stable contribs repository. If it hasn't been tested
by a person, it doesn't belong in any kind of stable repository.
It isn't cooker, after all. This is people's production machines.
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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 09:00:57AM +0200, Luca Berra wrote:
Some, not all. If packages were done to handle old versions while working
with the current, this would be a different story. But this can be very
difficult... I have some specs that can rebuild on older distribs and some
of them are *very* convoluted. Take my qmail packages for example...
before
some of the pain could be eased if we had an updated rpm package for
older versions (supported older versions, i mean, not 7.2) that levels
the packaging macros to 9.2
Shouldn't difficult. We've put out rpm macro updates before. And, FYI, the
oldest version we support now is 9.0 (8.2 went EOL two days ago). The
exception to that is MNF which is based on 8.2.
Of course, the macros are just part of it. If a spec is tuned, say, for a
new version of cyrus-sasl in cooker, the maintainer has to be aware that
what was required for the old version has to then be put in as conditionals.
Not all maintainers do this.
I don't believe there is anyone enjoying having to mantain 4 different
packages of the same software when one would suffice.
Probably not. But if you, as a contributor, have a cooker machine and
compile on cooker, how can you possibly know if your package, despite
having
conditional build macros, will work with an older distrib if you don't take
the time to build and test on that old platform? So you *do* need to
maintain it in such a manner otherwise you're just pumping out stuff that
pretends to work on old distribs and you really don't have a clue if it
does
or not.
Yes, i do need to test and to maintain a package in such a manner.
during last development cycle i had a 9.0 mail/web-server, a 9.1 laptop and
a cooker box at home, and i usually tested stuff there. But that was
from the same package, not different specs with different patches for
each release.
The problem for me will be when i upgrade the server to 9.2 :(
Btw, some packages in contrib are very well packaged and maintained,
some are playground for new features and some just suck, maybe splitting
contrib in sections based on package quality and starting to maintain
updates only for the stable part of contrib could be a start.
(if this has already been discussed just shoot at me and i will shut up)
Would other contributors be adverse on taking the commitment of
maintaining 'stable' packages for 'supported' version of mandrake (that
should be 18 months or 3 releases IIRC)?
I don't think splitting contribs further is the answer... I really don't.
How is that any different from the current situation? Now we have main and
contribs... you want to turn that into main, contribs-stable,
contribs-possibly-works, and contribs-junk? =)
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Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 10:07:35AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't know we were in a contest for the number of packages we provided.
I thought the question was quality, not quantity.
that sounds good and all, but when you think about it, actually, it is
quality+quantity :P
Quantity is good, but never at the expense of quality. If there needs to be
a choice or sacrifice, quantity should be out the door in a second.
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Re: [Cooker] Please excuse my ignorance.........
On 10/02/2003 11:07:44 AM, Steve Larabee wrote: I am brand new to the Cooker scene and am having trouble finding the most effective way (not to mention reliable FTP site) to keep updated. See http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki A list of RELIABLE FTP sites in the eastern half of the US would also be appreciated. None. Austin
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 06:01:39AM -0400, Austin wrote:
You are all missing the easiest solution:
--- unite contib and main ---
No way in hell... not the way things currently stand.
The only drawbacks would be:
- more security updates (this could lead to safer distro though, ditch
the
unsafe apps altogether)
Really? Some of those things are in contribs for precisely that reason...
people need/want the apps but we've recognized them as being unsafe(ish).
Which would involve more QA, more testing, more post-release support, more
developers paying attention to what's in contribs, and just plain old more
of everything.
Which would not be a problem if we had fewer packges AND more help, right?
Both of these things are possible in the future.
Right. But we have fewer packages by just supporting main right now. It
can be (somewhat) adequately handled as things stand now (this is why the
EOL policy was put into place). Doubling up the number of packages
effectively doubles my workload. Not a very cool thing.
The more packages
we provide, the more room for error, the more bugs, the more post-release
support, the more QA, the more testing, the more validation... can I say
more more more? =)
More support, more QA, more testing, and more validation sounds like a GOOD
thing to me...
Yes! But on the current set of packages. =) We need more of that already
(in my mind). Throwing more stuff into the mix just makes it that much
harder.
I didn't know we were in a contest for the number of packages we provided.
I thought the question was quality, not quantity.
It's not a contest. It's letting the end user get his work done. I don't
know if you're in any LUG's or other mailing lists, but most people I get
support questions from DON'T use contribs. They download single RPMs, frig
around with dependencies, then nothing works, then they ask for help.
Yeah, I'm on a number of mailing lists and active on my own LUG list. No,
a number of them don't use contribs. I don't encourage it unless there is a
package there that they need. But I don't discourage it either.
This is also an opportunity to tell them about urpmi.
Why the hell can we ship them contrib apps on a CD, but not have an
automated way for them to setup a contrib repository at installation time?
(No, urpmi. setup is not an obvious command for a new user to run)
If you buy the powerpack, does the installer not ask you what CDs you have?
I didn't realize it omitted the contribs CD that came with the pack.
SNF is dead. MNF still exists, and Corporate Server is what you mean to
refer to (MNF is not server-specific, it's application-specific).
Okay, let me rephrase. There could be a server-specific version without
the contribs stuff.
Which would be Corporate Server.
I am not at all interested in supporting a merger of contribs and main
unless there is a *lot* more help in supporting it.
It would not be possible otherwise... I wasn't proposing doing it
tomorrow. If 9.2 gets lots of press, and we publicise the wiki as much as
possible, and we make it easy and inviting for new contributors (it's not
exactly so now), we should be able to attract more help, them people like
Gotz, Per Oyvind, and i wouldn't have _hundreds_ of packages each to
maintain, and maybe we could do a better job of stabilizing them and
supporting them. Anyway, it's a concept, not a proposal to unite the two
repositories tomorrow.
There is more to it than that. Updates is a little... touchy. More
contributors is not going to help. I can't share the specifics of a number
of vulnerabilities I work on prior to them going public, so I would still
have to do the work myself. I can't delegate non-public vulns/patches/fixes
to folks. That would a really quick way of getting Mandrake removed from
the loop and destroy relationships with other vendors and organizations
that I've established over the years. For that reason alone, updates cannot
be done by folks who are not MandrakeSoft employees (security updates, that
is... bugfix updates are not as sensitive).
I refuse to put is in a position where we play catchup with other vendors
because that does a great disservice to our users.
And for that reason alone, community involvement in updates is not enough.
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Re: [Cooker] urpmi and 9.2 updates curious
On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 12:05:16PM +0200, François Pons wrote:
Vincent, how do you fixed it ?
For 8.2-9.1 I do:
genhdlist /mnt/BIG2/updates/[dist]
For 9.2 I have to do:
genhdlist /mnt/BIG2/updates/9.2/RPMS
So something in 9.2 changed. And not in the installer.
Ok, I see the point, I used genhdlist (which I guess has not be modified for
months, but I used the one of 9.2) in both case and it produced the good files
whatever the directory parameters is given...
I didn't think they had changed either.
I'm using the same genhdlist (the host OS is corp 2.1, so 9.0-based). If I
need to use a 9.2 genhdlist, you need to tell me this. =)
genhdlist of 9.0 is exactly the same as genhdlist of 9.2 (same md5sum) but the
underlying libraries have been modified, it could be the cause ?
Possibly.
Why don't you make genhdlist /mnt/BIG2/updates/9.1/RPMS ? it should have been
done that way no ? because by doing it the way you are doing them now, list file
are wrong. If you have an error message, let me known what it is.
I'll do some tests this afternoon and see if it breaks anything (obviously
we can't ask people to remove and re-add their updates media due to this).
If it doesn't break anything, then so much the better. If it does well,
in my build scripts I had to differentiate 9.2 from the other distribs and I
can continue to do that. Not a big deal. But if they all work the same
way, it'll be easier.
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[Cooker] [Bug 3483] [xine-ui] xine skins download failure
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3483 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 13:50 --- This is supposed to fix the problem: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xine/xine-ui/src/xitk/skins.c?r1=1.54r2=1.55diff_format=u You can try my patched packages: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: The xine skins are presents in the package but we can't load them.
Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.
On Thursday 02 October 2003 01:26 pm, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 15:19, Michael Lothian a écrit : Where are the KDE 3.2 rpms? you'd better not use them. Very unstable and buggy ... quanta unusable and how sometimes when you download files, the dialog don't close ( no button, [worksforme] ;) can't be close with the button in title bar ) [worksforme] ;)and you need to quit download manager ( see systray ) [worksforme] ;) k3b crash when you try to access preferences ( even if you donwgrade with k3b_0.10cvs haven't tried this actually menu is incomplete most mimetype are lost ( xmms no longer associated with .pls, xine not in menu, the same for xmms ) gtk apps are not themed which make them look ugly :( [worksforme] ;) I advise you to wait for final laurent kde3.2 rpms as it will apply many patch and will be surely updated from cvs and thus will have less bugs. but yeah, you're better off waiting, i doubt you'll have my apparent luck. quanta does suck though. I did the mdk site mod in it and it crashed a coupla times, then wouldn't start until i removed the preferences file --- Les taxis de la Marne ont fait la guerre. Alors moi je rigole quand je vois un taxi qui a peur d'aller en banlieue.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On 10/02/2003 11:25:10 AM, Vincent Danen wrote: This is what I meant. =) The above is the cooker wiki... the community wiki is http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/ Oi, the confusion. I know the name of qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki, because I named it, with Warly's approval. It's the 'Mandrake Linux Community Wiki', as stated in the copyright message. It was never intended to be cooker-only, even if that is it's main content. Austin
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On 10/02/2003 11:39:53 AM, Vincent Danen wrote: Yes! But on the current set of packages. =) We need more of that already (in my mind). Throwing more stuff into the mix just makes it that much harder. So what you're saying is that finances are prohibiting Mandrake from having three Vincents. :-) And for that reason alone, community involvement in updates is not enough. I hadn't thought of it that way. Point well taken. Austin
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:40:23PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Luca Berra : Would other contributors be adverse on taking the commitment of maintaining 'stable' packages for 'supported' version of mandrake (that should be 18 months or 3 releases IIRC)? Yes, unless someone give me the means to test those packages. I only run cooker for my desktops, and stable for my servers. I don't want to maitain three other versions just to test packages. Sorry i fail to understand your point: Do you mean Vincent is right and contrib is to be regarded as junk? Or are you asking mandrakesoft to provide you thes means? L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thursday 02 October 2003 12:07, Luca Berra wrote: Do you mean Vincent is right and contrib is to be regarded as junk? Or are you asking mandrakesoft to provide you thes I don't think Vincent said contrib is to be regarded as junk. I think he's saying contrib is not to be regarded as supported. Big difference. Which reminds me: separate from contrib, cooker, and club-contrib there's a repository called unsupported even though those three other repositories are also unsupported. What's that about? Rob
Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.
Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 15:58, jokerman64 a écrit : On Thursday 02 October 2003 01:26 pm, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 15:19, Michael Lothian a écrit : Where are the KDE 3.2 rpms? you'd better not use them. Very unstable and buggy ... quanta unusable and how see my previous posts : very very slow with my 3000 lines PHP files with color syntaxing ! I type something and 10 seconds later it write it ... yeah
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Wed Oct 01, 2003 at 08:11:04PM -0400, Austin wrote:
Yes! But on the current set of packages. =) We need more of that
already (in my mind). Throwing more stuff into the mix just makes it
that much harder.
So what you're saying is that finances are prohibiting Mandrake from
having three Vincents. :-)
While three of me might not be much fun for me yeah, that's pretty much what
I'm getting at. More people are needed for support.
And for that reason alone, community involvement in updates is not
enough.
I hadn't thought of it that way. Point well taken.
That is my major concern. I've built up too many relationships that allow
us to get fixes out with the rest of the vendors instead of playing catchup
like we used to when I first started. I can't afford to throw that away,
and neither can MandrakeSoft, and certainly our users appreciate timely
updates for new vulns... they can't afford it either.
Regardless of how good the intentions are. =)
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Re: [Cooker] Please excuse my ignorance.........
Steve Larabee wrote: I am brand new to the Cooker scene and am having trouble finding the most effective way (not to mention reliable FTP site) to keep updated. Can anyone please send me their procedures that they feel work the best? A list of RELIABLE FTP sites in the eastern half of the US would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Steve Hi Steve Use http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon to set up your cooker sources. You'll get a list of mirrors. Preferably, use the rsync:// mirrors to save bandwidth. See the CookerHowTo http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo Cheers Eric
[Cooker] BTW, fixed WINE complaints
Context: updated from 9.1 by aiming urpmi at cooker on PlanetMirror and asking for urpmi, then --auto-select. Uninstalled WINE stuff completely and there were still libraries in /usr/lib/wine so I splatted those, reinstalled and all was well. Presumably this will work if people have trouble upgrading from 9.1 to the real 9.2. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.
On Thursday 02 October 2003 02:23 pm, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 15:58, jokerman64 a écrit : On Thursday 02 October 2003 01:26 pm, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 02/10/2003 à 15:19, Michael Lothian a écrit : Where are the KDE 3.2 rpms? you'd better not use them. Very unstable and buggy ... quanta unusable and how see my previous posts : very very slow with my 3000 lines PHP files with color syntaxing ! I type something and 10 seconds later it write it ... yeah I was actually agreeing with you here :) and how is like an english expression for and how right you are i keep forgetting not everyone is a native english speaker here. /me goes off to learn french
Re: [Cooker] need clarification on dynamic usb storage device and supermount
Ok Im far away from home now... so I will send a reply to this email tomorrow by night... But I can tell you that Im using the device by hotpluging it... and the line gets created for me... Im using mm kernel from contribs (version 10, I think). As I said Ill send more info as soon as I get home tomorrow. Andre Lourenco It would help if you: - -posted the relevant line from /etc/fstab - -told us how you got here (did you boot with the USB device, use harddrake, or did this get added by hotplug?) Regards, Buchan Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk
[Cooker] [Bug 5975] [mozilla] Mozilla is crashing with j2re-1.4.2_01
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5975 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 14:50 --- Ok, got a crash when using KDE + soundwrapper.. After more investigation, it appears to be caused by artsdsp + java = using mozilla -debug, I get a nice Java crash (with a dump from Java Hotspot VM) I could also reproduce this crash using artsdsp konqueror, so it not a bug in mozilla.. Closing as INVALID (we don't have NOTMDK). Please, report this bug to java.sun.com -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Step to reproduce: Install mozilla and j2re on your computer; Trye for exemple an applet from: http://www.popcap.com; mozilla will crash after a few moment. Try the same applet with konqueror and the same java package, it is working fine.
[Cooker] errata 9.2
Please add: Error scenario: when doing a network install, on recent machines, the network card seems to not respond (no DHCP answer received for example) Why: problem with APIC Solution: type F1 then linux noapic when booting Thanks :). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] urpmi and 9.2 updates curious
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 12:05:16PM +0200, François Pons wrote: Why don't you make genhdlist /mnt/BIG2/updates/9.1/RPMS ? it should have been done that way no ? because by doing it the way you are doing them now, list file are wrong. If you have an error message, let me known what it is. I'll do some tests this afternoon and see if it breaks anything (obviously we can't ask people to remove and re-add their updates media due to this). If it doesn't break anything, then so much the better. If it does well, in my build scripts I had to differentiate 9.2 from the other distribs and I can continue to do that. Not a big deal. But if they all work the same way, it'll be easier. Please, tell me what error message you have with various distrib and what are the organizations of the files, it should be the same as 9.2 in fact, I don't understand why other distro need different organizations (I wonder how it could works). François.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:30:59AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: some of the pain could be eased if we had an updated rpm package for older versions (supported older versions, i mean, not 7.2) that levels the packaging macros to 9.2 Shouldn't difficult. We've put out rpm macro updates before. And, FYI, the good to hear about this. oldest version we support now is 9.0 (8.2 went EOL two days ago). The exception to that is MNF which is based on 8.2. well, maybe someone installing contribs on a firewall deserves what it implies. Of course, the macros are just part of it. If a spec is tuned, say, for a new version of cyrus-sasl in cooker, the maintainer has to be aware that what was required for the old version has to then be put in as conditionals. Not all maintainers do this. This is a reason for me advocating a split. Btw, some packages in contrib are very well packaged and maintained, some are playground for new features and some just suck, maybe splitting contrib in sections based on package quality and starting to maintain updates only for the stable part of contrib could be a start. I don't think splitting contribs further is the answer... I really don't. How is that any different from the current situation? Now we have main and contribs... you want to turn that into main, contribs-stable, contribs-possibly-works, and contribs-junk? =) Well I am trying to (and possibly failing) to think of a possible solution to this problem. some stuff in contrib is useful and not having it updated is a bad idea moving everything to main is a bad idea as well since contrib is not maintained mandrakesoft does not wish to publish it as a feature contrib is full of junk (super freeswan, is a particularly obnoxiuous peice of junk), i do not mind having junk in contrib for cooker, i was thinking that on splitting contrib for a stable distribution junk could be left out, and maybe the rest can be maintained to a smaller degree than how main is maintained, say just security updates. Say only for latest contrib version. regards, L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:14:00PM -0400, Rob wrote: On Thursday 02 October 2003 12:07, Luca Berra wrote: Do you mean Vincent is right and contrib is to be regarded as junk? Or are you asking mandrakesoft to provide you thes I don't think Vincent said contrib is to be regarded as junk. I think he's saying contrib is not to be regarded as supported. Big difference. ok, sorry i was stretching the concept, but as it is contrib is not only unsupported, but unsupportable, which stinks. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
[Cooker] [Bug 6040] [libkdemultimedia1-common-devel] missing shared library symlink
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6040 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 16:01 --- Created an attachment (id=910) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=910action=view) kdemultimedia-3.1.3-16mdk-missing-symlinks.patch Adds the missing shared library symlinks that make all devel packages installable. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: libkdemultimedia1-noatun-devel-3.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm can't be installed, because it's missing devel(libartsmodules). This is caused by /usr/lib/libartsmodules.so missing from libkdemultimedia1-common-devel. Other symlinks seem to be missing as well: devel(libartsbuilder) devel(libartsgui) devel(libartsgui_idl) devel(libartsgui_kde) devel(libartsmidi_idl)
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:39:53AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: There is more to it than that. Updates is a little... touchy. More contributors is not going to help. I can't share the specifics of a number of vulnerabilities I work on prior to them going public, so I would still have to do the work myself. I can't delegate non-public vulns/patches/fixes well, there are NDAs to cover this kind of stuff But i still think contribs should be clearly separated by main L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
[Cooker] interesting developments @debian
Hi all In the process of thinking about the next release, it might be a good idea to have a look around. Debian seems to be in a kind of revolution w.r.t. their release process. At the same time they have, as usual, a very strict set of rules to abide by for the release. an interesting (lengthy) article is here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html and the release rules for Sarge: http://people.debian.org/~ajt/sarge_rc_policy.txt Of course, mandrake is not debian, but there are some interesting concepts that can be applied to mandrake IMHO. Cheers Simon
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: - What should we do to improve the Wiki. Create test plans or just simple requests for outside testers when a major feature is added or package updated... Test Plans, Brilliant!!! Put 'em on the third CD of the download set and then everyone who is not a programmer can help. This would give much more structured bug reports and get everyone singing from the same hymsheet. If you start with standard apps that most use I'm sure that lots of people would have lots of fun helping out. Just my twopennyworth Regards, Colin Close
[Cooker] [Bug 916] [gnome-pim] GnomeCard : Error readinf default file
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=916 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-29-08 18:26 --- No activity has been seen on this bug since 20030120 and it is in ASSIGNED state. This probably means that the information provided was not clear enough, or that some attention is needed. Please test and confirm that this bug is still valid with the latest cooker version. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 17:37 --- Fixed in gnome-pim-1.4.9-4mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Language : English Step to reproduce = Open GnomeCard Problem === A new error box is opened with this message Error reading the default file.
Re: [Cooker] errata 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Please add: Error scenario: when doing a network install, on recent machines, the network card seems to not respond (no DHCP answer received for example) Why: problem with APIC I thought this would have been an FAQ/common knowledge by now ... but I have added it to the installation section (but of course, nothing prevents you from adding it there ...) Solution: type F1 then linux noapic when booting Is there not anything that can be done to have a more permanent solution in the future? IIRC with 9.0 (where noapic first bit us) Juan was wanting to blacklist more machines by having people run dmidecode on problematic machines ... Also, apic problems may have other symptoms (the other common one is USB devices not working), and the problems with network cards may also only appear after installation (in the case of a non-network install). So, I think this should be referenced in the usage information too. Finally, Vince, I think you said you would format one of the entries on the Wiki the way you wanted it? Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/fIT5rJK6UGDSBKcRAm1bAJ0RRQQ+j7Vk98PjQZDvgBpgRzR07ACgmzEq hR2RAU/bNJoyE99Dlqe/B0s= =0s1J -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Re: contribs, Was: Replacing proftpd by pureftpd
On Thu Oct 02, 2003 at 08:13:29PM +0200, Luca Berra wrote:
There is more to it than that. Updates is a little... touchy. More
contributors is not going to help. I can't share the specifics of a number
of vulnerabilities I work on prior to them going public, so I would still
have to do the work myself. I can't delegate non-public
vulns/patches/fixes
well, there are NDAs to cover this kind of stuff
But i still think contribs should be clearly separated by main
Sure, there are NDAs to cover this, but an NDA isn't everything. I use NDAs
with secteam... ever wonder why it's a very small group? Because they do
get to know about this stuff and although I get plenty of requests, I turn a
lot of people down. An NDA is a piece of paper... how can I enforce it?
Someone blabs and the damage is done. I can attempt to sue after the fact,
but big deal? I'm already kicked out of amazing resources that I need.
An NDA is not a solution.
And yes, contribs must be clearly separate from main. That's my whole
point.
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[Cooker] [Bug 4083] [kernel] PWC update
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4083 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 18:23 --- I tried to plug my USB webcam PWC 720K/40 on a 9.2RC2 newly installed. The system rebooted immediately, uncleanly. On the restart, it rebooted again, and again... until I unplugged the webcam. During the reboot, it stopped on the modprobe... -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: The driver for the philips usb-webcam (pwc) as been updated from release 8.10 to 8.10.1. This new driver add some new supported camera. pwc is currently included in the kernel, and is usually loaded as a module. It could be fine to include this new driver in the future kernel updates.
[Cooker] [Bug 6042] [drakxtools] New: Can't create working boot diskette
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6042 Product: drakxtools Component: drakboot Summary: Can't create working boot diskette Product: drakxtools Version: 9.2-16mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: drakboot AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Mandrake config, go to boot section, click floppy icon, insert diskette - get exit failed message, try to boot floppy, says initrd.img not found. Running mkbootdisk on command line, get more explicit error message - initrd.img, not enough space on disk. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] errata 9.2
Hi, Error scenario: when doing a network install, on recent machines, the network card seems to not respond (no DHCP answer received for example) Why: problem with APIC Solution: type F1 then linux noapic when booting BTW, I saw that occuring on some instances of nvidia|via based motherboards. It is currently workarounded on AMD64 with disabling APIC there by default. Could you please precise the type of those recent machines? On plain x86, it should be even easier to blacklist those. Bye, Gwenole.
[Cooker] [Bug 5975] [mozilla] Mozilla is crashing with j2re-1.4.2_01
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5975 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 18:43 --- Agreed, BUT mozilla is using soundwrapper by default and not konqueror. I have tested mozilla without soundwrapper successfully. Even flash and real are working fine. It should be good to remove soundwrapper from the menu. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Step to reproduce: Install mozilla and j2re on your computer; Trye for exemple an applet from: http://www.popcap.com; mozilla will crash after a few moment. Try the same applet with konqueror and the same java package, it is working fine.
[Cooker] [Bug 4465] [Installation] bootloader changes w/o effect
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4465 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-10 18:46 --- Not sure whether this is a separate bug or not, but the symptoms are similar - Have Windows NT4 on /dev/hda1, Windows 2000 on /dev/hdg, Xandros on /dev/hda5, and Mandrake on /dev/hde. When I upgraded from 8.2 to 9.1, grub was installed on /dev/hde or /dev/hde3 (not sure which), on the secondary (Promise) controller. And it worked! The disk got full, so I got a larger disk, partitioned it (without the Windows partitions), which made /boot on /dev/hde1 (instead of /dev/hde3) and / on /dev/hde5 (same as before) and swap on /dev/hde6 (same as before), and copied the files over with tar through a pipe. (So, the boot sectors were not copied). Problem is, running the 9.2 rc2 installer, it decided to install grub back on /dev/hda or /dev/hda2 (not sure which) - but it didn't work. Running Reinstall boot loader with CD in rescue mode didn't help - couldn't find the bios drive. Running grub-install fails, as it looks for sed and uniq, which aren't in the rescue ramdisk. Was able to create a grub floppy by running grub directly in rescue environment, like grub root=(hd1,0) grub setup (fd0) , which made a nonworking menu (bunch of cdrom junk from the grub.conf in the rescue ramdisk I suspect) but I was able to boot by dropping into the grub command line and issuing grub root=(hd1,0) grub kernel=/grub/vmlinuz-2.4.22-6 devfs=mount root=/dev/hde5 grub boot Still can't seem to find a way to get either drakboot or grub to write the bootloader with a working menu. I guess if I can find the grub.conf and modify it, that might help, but this could be a bit more automatic. HTH -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: The bootloader is now before the summary screen. When selecting a bootloader, we see a visualization and report of pushing the bootloader to the selected partition. The summary screen allows to modify the bootloader options, e.g. to select `grub` or to select linux-nonfb as the default loader mode. However, these changes will not take effect as it seems the bootloader is not reinstalled after doing any changes here.
[Cooker] [Bug 6043] [Installation] New: Installation hang...
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6043 Product: Installation Component: Installation Summary: Installation hang... Product: Installation Version: 1.847 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Installation AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After selecting manually the package, and changing quite a lot of them, the installation process hanged with LM 9.2 RC2. libesound0-0.2.32-1mdk : installation pb, do you want to continue-- yes esound-0.2.32 : installation pb, do you -- yes Xfree-xfs --installation pb ... -- no then the system was EXTREMELY slow to propose again the prog. list. When it succed, the same pb occurs again... I rebooted... then the CD was not recognized any more the CD1 as a bootable CD. Restarted windows... Rebooted: from the CD :-) Installed LM 9.2 RC2, with few changes on the default prog list: installation ended fluently... [PS: this was on a clean install of LM9.2RC2, with re-formatting / and /user. The same pb occured previously during my trial of upgrade] -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6044] [chromium] New: My shields??
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6044 Product: chromium Component: program Summary: My shields?? Product: chromium Version: 0.9.12-21mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 2 bars displaying the shield are poorely display on my fresh LM9.2RC2 distro: just 2 rotating, uniform parallelepipedic columns, blinking, but which size does not indicate anymore my shielding level... -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6045] [drakxtools] New: Impossible to use with ADSL ethernet modem
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6045 Product: drakxtools Component: DrakConnect Summary: Impossible to use with ADSL ethernet modem Product: drakxtools Version: 9.2-16mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: blocker Priority: P2 Component: DrakConnect AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ADSL ethernet modem Alcatel Speed Touch classically run in pppoe mode with mdk 9.1 but can't run with 9.2 RC2 because (I suppose) DrackConnect doesn't remember login and password for the connection !!! -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 5975] [mozilla] Mozilla is crashing with j2re-1.4.2_01
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5975 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-10 01:00 --- Or at least use my soundwrapper. GC never got around to looking at it. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Step to reproduce: Install mozilla and j2re on your computer; Trye for exemple an applet from: http://www.popcap.com; mozilla will crash after a few moment. Try the same applet with konqueror and the same java package, it is working fine.
Re: [Cooker] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Felix Miata wrote: You can find an (en home only) version legible without need to use zoom, regardless of default font size, resolution, or DPI at: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/MandrakeLinux-en.html Now who's going to volunteer for the tableless CSS version? ;-) First public draft is done. Same URL. 0 tables. CSS is integral. Size is down about 2700 bytes. I'm no expert, so there are definite shortcomings. I used only Mozilla 1.5 while doing my editing on OS/2, and viewing on windoze. Both IE6 Konq serve it up as a blank page. I have no idea why. The only validator problem is a bunch of chokes on the php links. Tables version for comparison is now http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/MandrakeLinux-en1.html -- The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom Proverbs 9:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/auth.html
Re: [Cooker] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/
On Friday 03 October 2003 12:11 am, Felix Miata wrote: Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Felix Miata wrote: You can find an (en home only) version legible without need to use zoom, regardless of default font size, resolution, or DPI at: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/MandrakeLinux-en.html Now who's going to volunteer for the tableless CSS version? ;-) First public draft is done. Same URL. 0 tables. CSS is integral. Size is down about 2700 bytes. I'm no expert, so there are definite shortcomings. I used only Mozilla 1.5 while doing my editing on OS/2, and viewing on windoze. Both IE6 Konq serve it up as a blank page. I have no idea why. The only validator problem is a bunch of chokes on the php links. As i predicted doing the tables in css caused rendering problems. however your initial version turned out way better than i could have hoped for (read, much better than what I could have done) The only problem in mozilla is the the horizontal lines are shown throughout the page. That should be easy enough to fix w/ some relocated hr / tags. Unfortunately as you pointed out it doesn't show up in konqueror and God only knows what IE wil do with it, Not good. I'll try to look at it this weekend. I can prolly get it to work in konq if i try. Tables version for comparison is now http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/MandrakeLinux-en1.html
[Cooker] [Bug 3483] [xine-ui] xine skins download failure
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3483 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-10 02:01 --- The package I have tested is fixing the problem. FYI: It seems to me that a buildrequire for automake1.6 is missing in your spec file. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: The xine skins are presents in the package but we can't load them.
[Cooker] [Bug 4534] [Installation] Hangs on Reboot
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4534 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-10 02:37 --- This bug is still valid. I have tried Mandrake 9.2 RC2 It's not kernel parameters but the next step after it which has to do with setting the time. I posted this on MandrakeUsers forum:- http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php?t=8341 -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: The Installation went fine. Upon reboot, Mandrake 9.2 beta 2 hangs at Configuring kernel parameters I tried booting from LILO, using linux, linuxfb and failsafe. All do the same thing.
[Cooker] [Bug 5072] [xemacs-extras] Can't select/unselect xemacs-extra in mdk9.2rc installation
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5072 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-10 03:12 --- I had same problem. It may be related to choosing emacs pkgs and xemacs pkg. It would not allow me to select xemacs-extras, but after install I tried to install the (I thought) missing pkg but found that the xemacs-extras rpm had been installed and had a conflict with files in emacs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS2/xemacs-extras-21.4.13-2mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...### [100%] package xemacs-extras-21.4.13-2mdk is already installed file /usr/bin/b2m from install of xemacs-extras-21.4.13-2mdk conflicts with file from package emacs-21.3-6mdk file /usr/bin/etags from install of xemacs-extras-21.4.13-2mdk conflicts with file from package emacs-21.3-6mdk file /usr/bin/rcs-checkin from install of xemacs-extras-21.4.13-2mdk conflicts with file from package emacs-21.3-6mdk file /usr/share/man/man1/etags.1.bz2 from install of xemacs-extras-21.4.13-2mdk conflicts with file from package emacs-21.3-6mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -V xemacs-extras [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qil xemacs-extras Name: xemacs-extrasRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 21.4.13 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: Mon 25 Aug 2003 07:58:09 AM EDT Install Date: Thu 02 Oct 2003 01:30:30 PM EDT Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group : Editors Source RPM: xemacs-21.4.13-2mdk.src.rpm Size: 230044 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Mon 25 Aug 2003 11:38:31 AM EDT, Key ID e7898ae070771ff3 Packager: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.xemacs.org/ Summary : Files that XEmacs has in common with GNU Emacs. Description : Xemacs-extras includes files which are used by both GNU Emacs and XEmacs. If you don't have GNU Emacs installed, be sure to also install this package when you install the XEmacs text editor. /usr/bin/b2m /usr/bin/ctags /usr/bin/etags /usr/bin/ootags /usr/bin/rcs-checkin /usr/share/doc/xemacs-extras-21.4.13 /usr/share/doc/xemacs-extras-21.4.13/README /usr/share/man/man1/ctags.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/etags.1.bz2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -V emacs Unsatisfied dependencies for emacs-21.3-6mdk: xemacs-extras S.5T /usr/bin/b2m S.5T /usr/bin/etags S.5T /usr/bin/rcs-checkin S.5T d /usr/share/man/man1/etags.1.bz2 -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: It is not possible to select or unselect xemacs-extra in the installation process of mandrake9.2rc. I get a dialog saying that I can't select/unselect this package..? I can select xemacs though.
[Cooker] [Bug 5906] [XFree86-server] Siliconmotion driver gives a corrupted display when output is on a monitor screen instead of LCD screen
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5906 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-10 03:51 --- The patch has been integrated into XFree86 CVS HEAD branch: http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/changes.html (look at change #469 in the HEAD Branch since the 4.3 release) or if the #469 is not anymore in the page, there: http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/CHANGELOG?rev=HEAD The commited patch is here (very slightly different to the one proposed, because of a useless space added): http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/siliconmotion/smi_driver.c.diff?r1=1.33r2=1.34 I hope someone will finally look at this bug in order this patch will be included soon in a XFree86 RPM bug update. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Overview Description: At least on the Gateway Solo 1150, when the output is sent to CRT (monitor) instead of the LCD screen, if the current resolution width (monitor) is larger than lcd width, then all the right part where xcoordinates lcdWidth , is a copy of another part of the screen... Steps to Reproduce: 1) Have a computer with a Silicon Motion card (or even a Gateway Solo 1150) 2) Connect it to a monitor to be able to get a resolution higher than the one of the LCD 3) Select a resolution higher than the one of the LCD screen Actual Results: All the right part, the pixels where x is bigger than lcdWidth are displaying a copy of another part of the screen. The cursor is copied and can move everywhere... This is just a display problem, windows or parts of the windows are there but not displayed.. Expected Results: The display should be fullscreen, without a repeated part.
[Cooker] [Bug 6046] [drakxtools] New: LM9.2rc2 Drakboot chgd Lilo from hda MBR to hda1, reboot hangs 9A
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6046 Product: drakxtools Component: drakboot Summary: LM9.2rc2 Drakboot chgd Lilo from hda MBR to hda1, reboot hangs 9A Product: drakxtools Version: 9.2-16mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: drakboot AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using Drakboot, I changed LM9.2rc2 default Lilo in MBR to use /dev/hda1 instead. On rebooting, I got L 9A 9A 9A ... Using Dos floppy, did fdisk /mbr and then reboot went to Lilo and everything was fine. This is really a Lilo problem, as I believe the same thing happens when changing it manually. But - a less experienced user, using Drakboot, gets no warning and is then unable to boot their machine (unless, maybe, they made a boot disk). Note that I am entering another bug under LM9.2rc2 Install issue because I first came across this problem by not being given a choice of where to put Lilo during initial install, and when I went to change the value on the screen where you can change the earlier choices (printers, network, etc) - my install hung completely. On reboot, I got L 9A repeating. I verified by re-performing the install from scratch, not changing the Lilo, rebooted fine, used Drakboot to change from the default Lilo in /dev/hda MBR to /dev/hda1 and on reboot, was back to L 9A repeating. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6047] [Installation] New: Install hung after chgd Lilo /dev/hda to /dev/hda1
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6047 Product: Installation Component: Installation Summary: Install hung after chgd Lilo /dev/hda to /dev/hda1 Product: Installation Version: 1.847 Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Installation AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The install process hung after I tried to change the default Lilo being placed in /dev/hda to using /dev/hda1. On reboot, I got L 9A 9A... and had to use to Dos boot floppy with fdisk /mbr to clear out /dev/hda. After that, booting took place, but had a few issues (certainly because the install process hadn't quite finished before). I performed a new, clean install, again without changing Lilo from /dev/hda default and everything went fine. Lilo is culprit (see my other Drakboot bug #6046), but since that is probably a larger problem to correct (its been an issue for a long time, I believe), the 9.2 Install process should be changed to warn/disallow user from changing Lilo during install. Or, better, change the install back to 9.0 style, where, I believe, advanced users were given a choice of where to put Lilo - BEFORE the install called Lilo behind the scenes. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6048] [alsa-utils] New: Can't get PCM sound with 4 channels with emu10k1
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6048 Product: alsa-utils Component: alsa-utils Summary: Can't get PCM sound with 4 channels with emu10k1 Product: alsa-utils Version: 0.9.6-3mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: alsa-utils AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have SoundBlaster Live! Value, can't get four channel sound in games like frozen-bubble. Not same as bug #884, that appears to relate to Wave rather than PCM. The suggestion of muting the analog-digital output jack and cranking up the surround channel doesn't seem to do anything. It *does* work with Xandros 1.0, not sure if they are using OSS or which version of alsa they are using. Upgraded to latest in alsa-utils in cooker, no effect. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6049] [drakxtools] New: mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en not selectable during install
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6049 Product: drakxtools Component: documentation Summary: mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en not selectable during install Product: drakxtools Version: 9.2-16mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: documentation AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I chose to install the drakxtools during install. When I entered drakbackup and then needed help, I was surprised to find a message asking me if I wanted to install the help documentation, and then to insert one of the install CDs. I'm pretty sure chose all the documentation and help pkgs I found during install, and the drakxtools itself, and yet I ended up without needed help files. That's rather silly, and might have been a real problem if I'd found that out during travel. As an aside, after installing the documentation (pretty nice stuff, too), I couldn't find drakxtools docs in the Help Center - I had to go into one of the tools and get help (then I was in the Help Center on the right page and could get to the top drakxtools table of contents). The Help Center really, really needs a search command for all the contents and pages (like Windows Help, much as I dislike MS). -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
