Re: [Cooker] Gnome+metacity+msec problems?

2003-11-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:57:31 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:

> Le lun 17/11/2003 à 22:25, Svante Signell a écrit :
>> Hopefully someone has answers to my questions:
>> 
>> 1. How to disable metacity and start sawfish instead, I've seen
>> something like: killall metacity; sleep 5; sawfish, but this does not
>> work. Any hints?
> 
> set the correct gconf key with gconf-editor
> /desktop/gnome/application/window_manager

NO. It is only a view of current window manager, not a way to change it.

Set WINDOW_MANAGER environment in .bashrc

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: none

2003-11-18 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:57:40 +0100, Frederic Lepied wrote:

> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] guillomovitch]$ rpm -qlp 
>> rpm/RPMS/i586/gkrellm-2.1.21-1mdk.i586.rpm | grep /usr/lib
>> /usr/lib/gkrellm2
>> /usr/lib/gkrellm2/plugins
>> /usr/lib/menu/gkrellm
>> 
>> BTW, why is /usr/lib/menu not /usr/share/menu ?
> 
> It was for compatibility with debian.

Not only : 
apps can be arch dependent and since /usr could be shared by NFS, menu
entries should be in /usr/lib.. (well, it was Debian rationale for
menu location..)

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




[Cooker] Re: none

2003-11-18 Thread Frederic Lepied
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] guillomovitch]$ rpmlint -i 
> rpm/RPMS/i586/gkrellm-2.1.21-1mdk.i586.rpm
> [..]
> E: gkrellm only-non-binary-in-usr-lib
> There are only non binary files in /usr/lib so they should be in /usr/share.
> 
> This rpmlint check should look for files exclusively, as the package only 
> contains empty directories in /usr/lib:

ok putting this on my todo.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] guillomovitch]$ rpm -qlp 
> rpm/RPMS/i586/gkrellm-2.1.21-1mdk.i586.rpm | grep /usr/lib
> /usr/lib/gkrellm2
> /usr/lib/gkrellm2/plugins
> /usr/lib/menu/gkrellm
> 
> BTW, why is /usr/lib/menu not /usr/share/menu ?

It was for compatibility with debian.
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you



Re: [Cooker] Sony Clié, Palm, Handspri

2003-11-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:12:28 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:37:24 +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> 
>> I have a Sony PEG-N760C (asian version of the N770C):
>> 
>> ID 054c:0066 Sony Corp. Clie PEG-N7x0C PalmOS PDA Serial
> 
> You forgot to tell whether it requires ttyUSB0 or 1 :)
> 
> But it is not a problem, since I got more infos for pilot-link hacker.

Hmm, those infos are still incomplete..

Stefan, I still need to know :
-which version of PalmOS is it running ?
-which USB tty are you using to sync it ?

Thanks..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] spamassassin broken - an easy fix?

2003-11-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:42:32 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:

> måndagen den 17 november 2003 10.20 skrev Frederic Crozat:
>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:22:06 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
>> > måndagen den 17 november 2003 00.44 skrev Gilles Mocellin:
>> >> Le Dimanche 16 Novembre 2003 20:37, Vincent Meyer, MD a écrit :
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > It appears that the first line of the spamassassin script is using
>> >> > the wrong version of perl.  Editing it to the current version allows
>> >> > this to run fine. Did I miss an update? or does this need to be
>> >> > repackaged?
>> >>
>> >> Works for me too, ah  :-)
>> >
>> > Fixed with spamassassin-2.60-4mdk
>>
>> Thanks but I'll fix it properly in -5mdk (by not using version-dependent
>> perl in #!)
> 
> Ahh, smart.
> 
> This is quite common, maybe this should be done on a larger scale?

Probably.. Pixel told me it was ugly to use version for perl call so I
follow Perl guru advice :)

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] spamassassin broken - an easy fix?

2003-11-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:22:06 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:

> måndagen den 17 november 2003 00.44 skrev Gilles Mocellin:
>> Le Dimanche 16 Novembre 2003 20:37, Vincent Meyer, MD a écrit :
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> >It appears that the first line of the spamassassin script is using the
>> > wrong version of perl.  Editing it to the current version allows this to
>> > run fine. Did I miss an update? or does this need to be repackaged?
>>
>> Works for me too, ah  :-)
> 
> Fixed with spamassassin-2.60-4mdk

Thanks but I'll fix it properly in -5mdk (by not using version-dependent
perl in #!)

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] clean /usr/share/icons

2003-11-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:22:48 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:

> 
> /usr/share/icons at this time is a total mess !
> Indeed, at the same time you have :
> - kde icons themes
> - gnome icons themes
> - XFree cursors

In case you didn't knew, GNOME and KDE are now starting to use a common
specification to share icons
(http://www.freedesktop.org/Standards/icon-theme-spec). But since
everything is not done yet, there are problems. And doing symlinks will
not help the situation. I think you should read the spec and fill bugs on
bugs.kde.org and bugzilla.gnome.org where you find problems for both
environments.

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Problem with Gnome keyboard shortcuts.

2003-11-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:40:30 -0500, Tom and Esther Ward wrote:

> Hello, list.
> I am running Mandrake 9.2 with gnome 2.4.0, and I have discovered most of
> the Gnome built in keyboard shortcuts do not work.

I think your keyboard is misconfigured and don't send "Alt" when pressing
"Alt" key.

Try running xev (from X11R6-contrib package) and press "alt" key to see
what keycode it returns.


-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Sony Clié, Palm, Handspri

2003-11-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:37:24 +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:

> I have a Sony PEG-N760C (asian version of the N770C):
> 
> ID 054c:0066 Sony Corp. Clie PEG-N7x0C PalmOS PDA Serial

You forgot to tell whether it requires ttyUSB0 or 1 :)

But it is not a problem, since I got more infos for pilot-link hacker.

Guys, if you own a PalmOS device, go to Pilot-Link Wiki and add missing
infos there directly :

http://wiki.pilot-link.org/index.php/DeviceMatrix

Thanks.

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




[Cooker] Sony Clié, Palm, Handspring, PalmOS users, please read

2003-11-14 Thread Frederic Crozat
Folks,

I'm trying to fix bug #3381, which is a problem with some Palm/Clié/other
PalmOS PDA which requires using /dev/usb/tts/0 instead of /dev/usb/tts/1

Currently, I only know of 3 problematic models :
-Sony Clié N770C/E (Vendor=054c ProdID=0060)
-Palm m130 (Vendor=0830 ProdID=0050)
-Sony Clié 320 (Vendor=054c, ProdID unknown)

So, if you have another PDA which requires this kind of changes, please,
post it here, with Vendor and ProdID (check /proc/bus/usb/devices after
pressing hotsync)

If you have a PalmOS PDA which does NOT requires this but which is not
correctly described in /usr/share/doc/pilot-link-0.11.8/README.usb (it
doesn't have USBx info, it is missing for the list, etc..), please, post
here too.

I'd like to get the pilot-link up to date to be sure /dev/pilot is always
symlinked to the correct usb serial devices.

If you have a Palm Tungsten T3, I know they don't work yet but I plan to
fix that as soon as I receive mine :)) (probably next week, replacing my
Clié N770C/E).

Thanks for your cooperation :)

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] gtk2 file selector

2003-11-12 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:43:07 +0100, Bellegarde Cédric wrote:

> So, no gnome 2.6 in mandrake 10.0 :-/
> maybee, we should use this patch, test it in cooker and put it in 10.0
> if stable.
> http://members1.chello.nl/~h.lai/gtkenhancements/

And I'll kill anybody trying to put this (or anything similar) into our
GTK+ package (and I think I already warn people before).. :)

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Trying to find packages in cooker.

2003-11-12 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:17:48 -0500, Tom and Esther Ward wrote:

> Hello, list.
> I'm new to this list, and I am interested in helping debug, test, and work
> with the cooker release of Mandrake. However, I'm having problems finding a
> couple of packages that I absolutely require in order to work with Linux.
> I have a visual problem seeing the screen, but in Gnome 2.4 there is the atk
> libraries, gnopernicus screen reader, festival tts, gnome-mag magnifier, as
> well as other Gnome accessibility packages.

type :
urpmi gnopernicus

then, log under gnome, go to Configuration/GNOME/Accessibility/AT Startup
and choose what you want to be started when at login.

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Bayesian filtering still broken in SpamAssassin

2003-11-12 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:24:49 -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote:

> Possibly useful pontificating: perhaps some type of extension to rpm
> whereby a script can be specified to be run only if upgrading from a
> given version/range of versions should be included?

It can't be done because a package should NEVER touch user data (and
baysian database is stored in $HOME ...)

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] yelp-pregenerate

2003-11-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:20:57 +0100, Götz Waschk a écrit :

> Am Samstag,  8. November 2003, 07:33:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Charles A Edwards:
>> installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gedit-2.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm 
>> Preparing...
>>   43:gedit  
>> /usr/share/sgml/docbook/yelp/yelp-custom.xsl:18: namespace error : 
>> Namespace prefix doc for type on param is not defined
>> 
> 
> I've noticed that too for a few other packages. Do you know how the
> help files have changed?

This is probably caused by either new libxml2 or libxslt.  Please fill a
bug report on yelp so I don't forget and I'll ask Shaun (Yelp maintainer)
or Daniel (libxml maintainer).

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft






Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .

2003-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:25:40 +0100, Götz Waschk wrote:

> Am Freitag,  7. November 2003, 10:19:08 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat:
>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:55:41 +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
>> > When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)?
>> When I have time..
>> Cooker will have (in that order) : 1.4.1, then 1.5 then 1.6alpha..
> 
> Skip that 1.6alpha, at least for me it's really really broken. I've
> only tested it yet on Windows, but the mail program was unusable.

Heh, is it cooker or is it Debian stable ? :

Seriously, 1.6 beta is scheduled for November 21, so since it will
take some time to do 1.4.1 and 1.5, we might wait for it..

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .

2003-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:55:41 +0100, Robert Fox wrote:

> When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)?

When I have time..

Cooker will have (in that order) : 1.4.1, then 1.5 then 1.6alpha..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Bayesian filtering still broken in SpamAssassin

2003-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:25:14 -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote:

> # sa-learn --mbox --ham Mail/IN.mandrake
> Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie
> failed:

Did you run sa-learn --import before doing that ?

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: Versioning for multiple releases: a modest suggestion

2003-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:46:16 +0100, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
> 
>> Example: to allow upgrading & downgrading mozilla/galeon/etc., all moz
>> libraries that are used by other packages must be in a separate package
> 
> Indeed Mozilla must still be a correctly libified package, at least for 
> biarch installation. And, for other packages (e.g. Galeon, OOo) to use 
> Mozilla system libraries.
> 
> Fred, please proceed ASAP.

It seems you have absolutely NO understanding of how mozilla is currently
architecture, otherwise you wouldn't ask that..

Mozilla WON'T be libified until Mozilla folks released GRE (Gecko Runtime
Engine) which will allow to clearly split Mozilla network (necko) and HTML
engine (gecko) from Mozilla interface.. Until this is done and enabled in
Mozilla code, you CAN'T libified it..

When GRE will be available, we will be able to split mozilla libraries
(which are already somehow libified, for nspr and nss) from mozilla
programs.

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.5/2.6 and cooker

2003-11-06 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:30:37 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote:

> --VrqPEDrXMn8OVzN4
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> On 2003-11-06(Thu) 11:47:57 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> since cooker is re-opened again, I'd like to ask all people who have
>> upload permissions to main cooker to NOT upload any GNOME 2.5/2.6 package=
> s.
>>=20
>> I haven't yet decided if I'll push GTK+ 2.4 in cooker, but ATM, I won't
>> push 2.3.0 since it is not yet stable and I don't see any new release of
>> software using it..
> 
> Does this mean that, if GTK+ 2.4 is out and binary compatible with 2.2
> (I mean if GNOME 2.4 runs fine under GTK+ 2.4), then you may put 2.4
> into cooker later? Sorry for ignorance, I didn't follow gtk+
> development...

Yes, GTK+ 2.x is backward binary compatible, by design.. 

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




[Cooker] GNOME 2.5/2.6 and cooker

2003-11-06 Thread Frederic Crozat
Hi folks,

since cooker is re-opened again, I'd like to ask all people who have
upload permissions to main cooker to NOT upload any GNOME 2.5/2.6 packages.

Unfortunately, it seems GNOME 2.6 release schedule will collide with next
distro release (this one is not yet final) so I won't be able to push
GNOME 2.6 for Mdk 10.0. Since there is no easy way to handle two seperate
branches of packages in cooker (and NO, I don't want to see foobar2.6
named packages in contrib, I keep 2.4.x packages in cooker. (Trust me, I'm
not very happy about that :(

I haven't yet decided if I'll push GTK+ 2.4 in cooker, but ATM, I won't
push 2.3.0 since it is not yet stable and I don't see any new release of
software using it..

I might work on a separate GNOME 2.6 repository on people.mandrakesoft.com
(or klama) with Götz help but it is not yet sure..

Thanks for listening..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Gnome-panel and gnome-session require user docs?

2003-11-05 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:23:17 -0600, Brad Felmey wrote:

> Is there any legitimate reason to require docs? I should be able to have
> things work without docs installed.

Because you have an "Help button" on logout which requires gnome-user-docs..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] test9.4mdk with ext3 as module

2003-11-05 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:29:36 +0100, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:

>> > Still a little issue in test9-4mdk : you should compile capability
>> > (CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=yes) in the kernel, not a module (,
>> > otherwise bind can't be started until "capability" module is loaded..
>> 
>> thanks, it will be done in next release
> 
> please don't,
> the kernel is bug enough
> 
> not everybody is running bind,
> the one's that do run it could
> just add it to modprobe preload

No, it is WRONG to do so, because capset is a glibc function and should
ALWAYS work.. We can't be sure another program is not using capget/capset
other thank bind..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake uses Photoshop... What a pity!

2003-11-04 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:29:13 +0100, Fabien ILLIDE wrote:

> Hi to all,
> First, I'm NOT a graphist ;-)
> 
> Liam Quin a écrit :
> 
> ...
>> Having said that, there are a lot of other things GIMP would need
>> to compete with PhotoShop in the professional pre-print world...
>> Some that spring to mind include
>> * trapping, colour separation, undercolour removal, hexachrome support
>>   (this is where the printing press has 6 colours), duotone and tritone
>>   support, controls for bleed and dot gain, together with support for
>>   generating files at any given lines per inch (this is not the same
>>   as dpi, it's for screening, and control over screen angle is needed)
> 
> I don't know so I trust you.
> 
>> * support for reading PhotoShop files (there's some of that already)
> 
> Yes, I don't know how far it goes, but I've open some .psd files and don't 
> see a problem.
> 
>> * maybe support for PhostoShop plugins?  Not sure how possible this is
> 
> I've not try, but I've see on the curent devel Gimp 1.3 a menu for the 
> 'Toshop plugins \o/
> Seems to be on good way.
> 
>> We'd also need something like Illustrator... sodipodi doesn't cut it...
>> and Quark, where neither OpenOffice nor scribus is there.
> 
> Sure, but things is going on the right direction I think. (I mean : just 
> look 2 years ago)
> 
>> I think we're several years away from being able to consider Linux as
>> a strong platform for graphic design work.  In the meantime, it really
>> isn't worth fighting a battle with people who use PhostoShop for a
>> living, as they're not going to move to Linux.  Choose battles you
>> can win, and win them :-)
> 
> (For the 3D, Blender seems good, as far as I read.)
> 
> But the only way to speed up devel of graphic apps, is to use them, and 
> propose usefull ideas. And for have usefull ideas, you should be a 
> graphist yourself, so graphist should use Gimp and others anyway, even if 
> it's only for testing/improving, and not for "real" work.
> 
> That's what's Bruno Bellamy do (more than that, only FreeSoftwares AFAIK), 
> http://neverland.net/bellamy/ I hope other talented guys will follow.

Beep.. Wrong, Bruno has to use non free software for its printed material,
because of CYMK issue..

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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] test9.4mdk with ext3 as module

2003-11-04 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:12:30 +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:

>> My mistake, it's a "bug" in kernel packaging.
>> No depmod is done in 0nstall, so mkinitrd find the first time an
>> empty modules.desc file and can't guess ext3 depends on jbd ...
> 
> It's finally fixed now, you can grab the test9.4mdk packages here:
> http://compil.mandrake.org/~blino/kernel-2.6/
> 
> If nothing wrong is reported about the package till Wednesday, it will
> go right in contrib.

Still a little issue in test9-4mdk : you should compile capability
(CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=yes) in the kernel, not a module (,
otherwise bind can't be started until "capability" module is loaded..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Mozilla crash because of libgaleon-xpcom.so ??

2003-11-04 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:56:08 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] pascal]$ mozilla -mail
> /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/mozilla-bin: relocation error:
> /usr/lib/galeon/components/libgaleon-xpcom.so: undefined symbol:
> eel_gconf_get_string
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] pascal]$
> 
> I don't understand why does mozilla use something from galeon... I remember I
> already saw something about this but just found
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 (maybe I just remembered reading
> this bug).

Could you reopen this bug and add ALL info from your system on it ?

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability

2003-11-03 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:34:50 +, David Coe wrote:

> I mentioned in an earlier thread that I was having problems with the
> Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk placed in the MandrakeClub archive, in particular,
> that pressing the Mail icon on the Browser Status Bar (down at the
> bottom left-hand corner) quite often resulted in an unceremonious
> closedown of all Mozilla windows.
> 
> This bug had been *very* noticeable with Chip Cuccio's first offering of
> Mozilla-1.5 on his NORLUG archive (I can't speak for the second), was
> sporadically present with Buchan Milne / Fred Crozat's MandrakeClub RPM
> and was absent (as far as I can tell) from Scott Bolander's XFT-enabled
> tarball.

I'm going to be a little rude but let's explain this clearly : I DON'T
maintain Mandrake Club RPMs (I didn't upload nor check them) and I DON'T
want to hear from them, specially on cooker mailing list.. I NEVER did
those packages. The only package I maintain are on cooker. 


-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk

2003-10-30 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:13:14 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:

> Le mar 28/10/2003 à 17:09, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:06:28 -0500, magic wrote:
>> 
>> > Hey all,
>> > 
>> > I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd 
>> > quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?
>> > 
>> > http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/
>> 
>> Hmm, I'm not sure this one is needed nor useful for our own package..
> 
> I've got a request for jabber package : provide support for logrotate.

Please, fill a bug report on jabber, with the patches attached, so they
don't get lost..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-28 Thread Frederic Conrotte
Just my 2 cents...

since I switched to Linux with MDK8.2,
I've always noticed the XFS daemon (X Font Server)
and the DM daemon (Display Manager) are not started among
the first services to be started.
DM need XFS started before it can be launched.

DM is the services that launch KDE and therefore
the sooner it is started the sooner you will get KDE up.

For example, for MDK9.2,
I moved XFS and DM to S01xfs and S02dm in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rc5.d]$ ll
total 4
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   20 oct 21 01:40 K15postgresql ->
../init.d/postgresql*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 oct 21 01:40 K55routed ->
../init.d/routed*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 oct 21 01:32 S01xfs ->
../init.d/xfs*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 oct 21 01:31 S02dm ->
../init.d/dm*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   18 oct 21 01:34 S03iptables ->
../init.d/iptables*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:42 S09network ->
../init.d/network*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   18 oct 21 01:46 S11internet ->
../init.d/internet*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:42 S11portmap ->
../init.d/portmap*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 oct 21 01:42 S12syslog ->
../init.d/syslog*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:31 S13partmon ->
../init.d/partmon*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:34 S14nfslock ->
../init.d/nfslock*
-rwxr--r--1 root root  721 oct 21 19:02 S15fw*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 oct 21 01:31 S17alsa ->
../init.d/alsa*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 oct 21 01:42 S18sound ->
../init.d/sound*
.
.
.
.

it saves me 5 seconds of total boot time

maybe it should be setup like that for MDK10.0 ?

regards,
effco




Le mar 28/10/2003 à 21:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> 
> > - Sysv is already mostly parallelized. It takes 26
> > seconds which is better than I expected. Actually, as
> > I understand, on this single-cpu machine the overhead
> > of context switching is so high that xinetd and cups
> > would probably start faster if they were not
> > parallelized with X.
> > - Idea: sshd is the only service that uses xinetd.
> > Standalone sshd would probably boot faster? This
> > computer connects to the Internet using a modem, I
> > don't even own a network card. Therefore I probably
> > don't need sshd at all.
> 
> Isn't xinetd startup of ssh disabled by default, in favour of starting as
> a daemon?
> 
> > - While I'm at it, I also don't need netfs, nfslock
> > (thus portmap)
> 
> If you want to use NFS you need them all. If you don't use NFS, 'urpme
> nfs-utils-client' or whatever it is. AFAIK you need portmap for fam to
> work?
> 
> > or tmdns. Isn't it possible to disable
> > these services if no NIC is detected during
> > installation? Also since this is a desktop pc i don't
> > need apmd.
> 
> And you don't want to be able to use the sleep/wake buttons on your
> keyboard ;-).
> 
> > Can't this also be detected?
> > - I just can't understand why kde takes so long to
> > start!??!? Unfortunately, gnome isn't much better. The
> > "loading session" part in kde can be accellerated by
> > disabling KOrganizer (if someone wants to use it,
> > he/she can find it in the menus)
> 
> I don't think korganiser has a huge impact, and it's point is to remind
> you, not to tell you the things you want to be reminded of when you
> remember to run it, and it can easily be disabled.
> 
> > - Idea: postpone cups and scannerdrake startup for 60
> > seconds to give desktop a chance to start and avoid
> > unnecessary context switching.
> 
> Yay, then Mandrake samba print servers will now only be usable 2 minutes
> after having fully booted ... since we HUP samba a minute after starting
> it to give CUPS time to pick up all the printers (I haven't removed this
> since samba-2.2.8a can't update the printers automatically as it is
> supposed to - it worked in 2.2.7a though ...).
> 
> > It's very unlikely that
> > someone would like to print or scan something in the
> > first 60 seconds?
> 
> Maybe on a desktop, and I guess it's not too bad on a server unless
> there's an MCSE driving it ...
> 
> > The same trick could be used for
> > crond and atd I believe.
> >
> > What do you think? Should I apply these optimizations
> > to my Pc? will anything burn up (except the lg cd-rom)
> > ;)
> 
> I wonder if the 23s to start KDE can be reduced significantly by pre-linking?
> 
> BTW, Windows (even Windows 2000) shuts down very quickly (ie usually < 5
> seconds on my laptop), and I think the margin is greater on shutdown ...
> 
> Regards,
> Buchan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk

2003-10-28 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:06:28 -0500, magic wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd 
> quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?
> 
> http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/

Hmm, I'm not sure this one is needed nor useful for our own package..

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[Cooker] LM9.2: Pbm with Lilo installing new kernel

2003-10-24 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi kernel-smp-2.4.22.18mdk

   
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-smp-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-smp-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing...   
##
  
1:kernel-smp-2.4.22.18mdk##
There is an error when regenerating lilo, you may have to check your
/etc/lilo.conf


Now trying to run:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# /sbin/lilo -v
LILO version 22.5.7.2, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2003 John Coffman
Released 20-Aug-2003, and compiled at 16:45:54 on Sep 18 2003

Reading boot sector from /dev/hde1
Fatal: volid read error


What the heck did happen during urpmi?

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Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote:

> Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
> More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
> happen ?
> It looks like x.2 doesn't mean a thing anymore. 7.2 and 8.2 were
> perfect. Why isn't so with 9.2 ?

Updates for 7.2 and 8.2 were ONLY for security bug fixes..

Since 9.x, we are now providing ALSO providing updates for bugfixes.. 

But maybe we should go back and drop all non-security fixes updates ?

And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the
beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release...

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Re: [Cooker] LM9.2: What a nice release!

2003-10-22 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 00:01, Guy McArthur wrote:
> You say VMware? Can you describe how you got it working? Did you use the 
> 9.1 rpm from MandrakeClub?
> It didn't work for me, some indecipherable error about region and rpm 
> signatures -- I'll try to reproduce it when I get home.
> 
> Does anyone know if we can expect a 9.2-compiled version of vmware?

I downloaded from www.vmware.com
   VMware-workstation-4.0.5-6030.tar.gz 
and ran the install script. No prob whatsoever.

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Re: [Cooker] LM9.2: What a nice release!

2003-10-22 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 23:36, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > The good:
> >   - well, thanks to urpmi, contrib and plf pretty much everything is
> > setup and working well, audio, mp3, dvd playing, opengl (nvidia
> > drivers), games (CivCTP, quake3, RTCW, Neverwinter Nights ** those
> > are not available through urpmi, go buy them!), VMWare,
> 
> *which* games??? :)

Add to this automatic installation of the nVidia drivers.
I could add Enemy Territory and America's Army as well, most importantly
I forgot to include Frozen Bubble ;)

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[Cooker] LM9.2: What a nice release!

2003-10-19 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

I just wanted to tell you guys at Mandrake and all the contributors that
you produced a very nice release indeed!
I upgraded to a silver membership from my standard one on the day the
ISOs were made available to the club members to be able to get the
Powerpack Edition and I do not regret it one bit!

In less than 24h I had both the Download Edition and the Powerpack
Edition downloaded and ~4Gb were uploaded from my BitTorrent (so I'm
about even here).

My hardware is:
  2 x P3 733MHz (Supermicro mobo)
  512Mb Ram
  3 x HD (2 are connected to a Promise Ultra100TX2) ~150Gb total
  SB Live! 1024
  PCI card with 3 x USB2 ports and 2 x Firewire 400 ports
  Internal CD-RW (SCSI using an Adaptec 29140N)
  Internal Pioneer DVD-R106 (IDE)
  Internal Tape drive
  
  External USB Storage (6Gb HD)
  External Firewire enclosure (1 x 120Gb HD + 1 x 20Gb HD)
  iPod 30Gb
  Sony Digital Camera DSC-F505


Minor ennoyances (using Powerpack Edition):
  - during the installation, the windows for the individual package
selection were unusually small (I had to use the right-left
scrolling to see anything)
This was not happening in RC2.
  - during the summary, same pbm.
This was not happening in RC2.
  - during the services activation/deactivation, same pbm
This was not happening in RC2.

  - during the disk partitioning (custom partitioning) the external
USB storage was recognized as sda1, the firewire drives were
recognized as sdb1, sdb2 and sdc1
Trying to assign mount points like /mnt/multimedia, the installer
tried to mount /mnt/mnt/multimedia
I reported the pbm in bugzilla for beta2 I believe.
sdb1 was indicated as being FAT32 when it's EXT3...
After changing the mount point to something the installer would
accept the rest of the installation was pretty straight forward
(except for the small windows pbm).

  - upon reboot the external devices caused some troubles as they
could not be mounted and I was presented with the fsck option or
Ctrl-D (kind of going circles here).
This may be due to the fact that during the boot up sequence the
firewire modules seem to be activated after the mounting sequence.
The only solution was to somehow find a way to edit the fstab to
remove the definitions for these drives...
(I used another Linux installation to mount / and edit /etc/fstab)

  - Once in KDE I changed the fstab to include all my drives (hardcoded)
without using the hotplug stuff (although I need to re-visit this
area as it's still a mistery to me how it really works).

  - I've noticed that if my external USB storage is switched on during
the boot up sequence, it sometimes appears on the SCSI bus before
my hdc (with SCSI). It's kind of odd that an external device ends
up registered before an internal device... and it causes pbm with
the way the fstab is setup.

  - I had the menu disappearing pbm  when doing software installation.
This was repaired everytime by doing update-menus as root.


The good:
  - well, thanks to urpmi, contrib and plf pretty much everything is
setup and working well, audio, mp3, dvd playing, opengl (nvidia
drivers), games (CivCTP, quake3, RTCW, Neverwinter Nights ** those
are not available through urpmi, go buy them!), VMWare,
iPod, VPN access to my company (with Cisco modules), etc...

  - Encoding CDs to MP3 while at the same time using VMWare, uploading
MP3s to my iPod and transfering files from internal HD to external
firewire HD did not cause any troubles at all.
(I cannot say it was really fast, they're only old fashioned P3
after all but it was moving along rather nicely).

It's too early to say it will stay stable in all conditions (plus I
haven't tried everything yet) but I had a lot of pbms (crashes once a
day at least) with LM9.1 and more recently Gentoo doing these things so
right now I'm a very happy silver member.

Thanks Mandrake (and contributors of course).

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Re: [Cooker] packaging cvs not being updated?

2003-10-16 Thread Frederic Lepied
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It seems that no cvs commits are happening for new packages (at least in
> contrib).
> 
> The last successful commit seems to be tilp, 2 days ago:
> http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/contrib-SPECS/tilp/

fixed
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[Cooker] Re: Where are contrib for 9.1 ? !

2003-10-16 Thread Frederic Lepied
Olivier Thauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can you explain me what about is thinking the man who manage mirrors ?
> 
> All contrib for 9.1, i586 and ppc, disapeared from Mandrake dir, there are no 
> 9.1 dir in Mandrake-old.
> 
> What does this mean, like Mandrake did for 8.1, we're loosing contrib for 9.1, 
> This is stupid !
> 
> 9.1 is still support, is still installed ! This mean about 50% of plf packages 
> are no longer installables !
> 
> Please reput it on mirror somewhere, better in same tree than 9.1, or move all 
> 9.1 in Mandrake-old.  This mean 9.0 is more usefull to use than the latest 
> really availlable distro (assuming all mirrors are synchronized on 9.2). And 
> 9.1 ppc is the latest stable availlalble, and will be the latest ! 

They are back. Sorry it was a bad manipulation on our side.
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Re: [Cooker] Downloading 9.2 - "Five stars"

2003-10-15 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 19:41, Jan Ciger wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Luca Berra wrote:
> | wonderful,
> | anyone else has md5s to show?
> |
> | L.
> |
> 
> I have this :
> 
> MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso
> 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974
> 
> MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso
> e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e
> 
> MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso
> 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372

I have te same MD5 sums as above.



> I think, that Pierre's file is corrupted or what.
> 
> Jan
> 
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Re: [Cooker] xmms theme

2003-10-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:20:19 +, Diego Iastrubni wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I dont know how come anyone failed to notice it. RedHat ships xmms with a blue 
> curve theme. Mandrake does not ship a Galaxy theme for xmms.
> 
> I found one in kdelook:
> http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=8100

This is NOT a Galaxy skin, it is a Liquid skin..

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Re: [Cooker] [GNOME] Painful to use in a NFS environment

2003-10-14 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:15:04 +0200, Simon Oosthoek wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 02:15:06PM +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
>> using gnome is an NFS environment seems to be painfully.
>> Just have a look at #6138 and #6140 :
>> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6138
>> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6140
>> 
> 
> Even just using Evolution in an NFS environment (and NIS) is painful. One of
> the most frequent problems is that users can't read their mailboxes or that
> they just can't print from evolution. Both are sometimes (but not always)
> solved by manually removing the lock files from their (NFS-mounted) home
> directories. 

This is because NFS locking in broken in your environment..

Evolution relies on working lock at filesystem level (ie NFS, local disk,
whatever).

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Re: [Cooker] mach?

2003-10-13 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:43:47 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> Oden Eriksson wrote:
>> http://thomas.apestaart.org/projects/mach/
> 
> I looked at this briefly before, and from what I remember it was very
> messy. slbd is better for the same tasks IMHO.

I'm sure Thomas will be quite happy to get more people working on "fixing"
mach and getting it to run on Mdk system..

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Re: [Cooker] errata 9.2

2003-10-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:46:53 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> Thomas Backlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> > I would like to know that too ... I have seen it myself on a few Gigabyte
>> > Socket A boards with VIA chipsets (like GA-7VTXH IIRC).
>> 
>> # urpmi lm_sensors
> 
> I think lm_sensors is behaving bad on this machine, since when
> service starts the fan will run at full speed afterwards
> (normally it modifies the speed according to the temperature, and
> will run 1/4 or 1/3 of speed most of the time), and it said it
> detected an ISA bridge to the BIOS, which is strange for a recent
> machine like that maybe. But I'll try.

There is a similar problem (fan at fullspeed) with Shuttle SN45G, because
lmsensors is writing all available bits on sensors registers when it
initialize :((

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] chmlib-0.31-1mdk

2003-10-01 Thread Frederic Lepied
Olivier Thauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Le Samedi 27 Septembre 2003 21:45, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
> > [Contrib-RPM]
> >
> > -=-=-=-
> > Name: chmlib   Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > Version : 0.31  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> > Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Sat Sep 27 21:51:44
> 
> > Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0-1mdk
> >
> > - First spec file for Mandrake distribution.
> >
> > -=-=-=-
> > No rpmlint error, happy man :-)
> 
> I forgot to save my spec before send it on klama for upload, but I ran rpmlint 
> before upload, and neither on my computer, on klama, and neither on the 
> changelog computer, rpmlint has complain about the mismatch version between 
> the package and the changelog entry.
> 
> Can you check why ? Thanks by advance.

It works fine on the binary rpms but it seems to fail on source
rpms. I put that on my todo.
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Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 09:19, Warly wrote:
> - What was wrong in 9.2 development process?

The beta/RC process is flawed as heavy development continues during the
beta/RC process.
If Mandrake tools have to change (new features, fix incorrect behaviour,
etc) then they should be changed based on a set of requirements for the
release. These changes should be implemented before the test cycle
starts.

Also one of the very important step is the installation. From the 1st
beta/alpha we should be using updated boot images so that early in the
test cycle we catch hardware pbms.
For example, 9.2 beta1 I believe was using boot images from 9.1...

The mirrors were a pain in the backside...


> - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, we
> should do it now.

Not sure spliting the ML will improve things. People will end up posting
to all MLs raising the signal to noise ratio for all lists.

> - What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development.

- Complete all developments before the test cycle begins
- Start with an alpha release (1w)
- then beta1 (2w)
- then beta2 (2w) - last chance to include new software releases
- then beta3 (2w) - only bug, security fixes maybe a new software
release (after approval) + polish
- then RC1 (2w)   - bug and security fixes only + polish
- then RC2 (2w)   - bug and security fixes only + polish

RC status should be given when no major/blocker bugs remain in CVS.
Period for beta/RC should be flexible from 1w to 3w.

For each beta/RC it would be nice to have a summary of what bugs were
fixed, how much remains etc...
A nice changelog/errata to indicate what is known to not work.

That may be a different subject but the MandrakeSoft web sites need a
serious change of look...
Can I say fedora and gentoo?


> - What should we do to improve the Wiki.

Contains its messy spreading. Make sure the information is valid.


> - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs?

If it allows some users to do more testing then why not.


> - What could we do, as a community, to increase the acceptance of mandrakelinux?

Show that the QA is top-notch by allowing sufficient time for the test
cycle to change your strategy if/when more testing is required.
Make sure that developers update bugzilla properly with indication of
packages version where a fix was made so that we can re-test the fix.


> - How to have more contributors?
> 
> And anything related to the mandrakelinux distro.
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[Cooker] 9.2 ISOs finalised or not?

2003-09-26 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

It may be some very dumb questions but I'd like to be enlightened ;)

On Mandrake Club it says:
"Mandrake 9.2 ISO images will be released in advance to Mandrake Club
users, hopefully before October 15th, when all last tests will have been
achieved."

Are the 9.2 ISOs finalised already or not?
Why hopefully?
What are these last tests?

Maybe I'm over analysing this statement. I should have better things to
do on a Friday night :)

Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] It's just me ? Evolution freeze + gnome unusable on /home NFS share

2003-09-24 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:06:35 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:

> I'm using an /home NFS share with NFSv3 + tcp + soft + timeo=600 and
> r/wsize=8192 with nfs lock activated + NIS auth
> With KDE everything is fine. Now the problem comes with Gnome.
> In 9.1, sometimes gnome fails to start correctly on 5 of the 5 mahcines
> with gnome ( some 1000f gnome machines where affected at one time at
> least ).

> kernel-2.4.22-9mdk ( -10mdk is installed but I don't boot with it yet )

That is the problem :))

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Re: [Cooker] Opteron and nForce3

2003-09-21 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 11:52, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> Frederic,
> 
> CSC at Warwick is running a Penguin Computing Altus1000, see: 
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MdkPorts#amd64

Thanks Stefan.

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Re: [Cooker] Opteron and nForce3

2003-09-21 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 05:32, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Has anyone on the cooker list had the privilege to try the upcoming 9.2
> > on an Opteron/nForce3 configuration (single or dual Opteron)?
> 
> Yes, this also applies to nForce3 based Athlon64 systems. Disks I 

Were the disks using SATA?

> tested so far flied at around 57 MB/sec, i.e. faster than anything I 
> used so far. Not only the disks were fast, the rest of the platform was 
> obviously very fast too. ;-)

What Opteron proc did you use?

> You can try yourself, Warly should have stopped generating broken 
> hdlists for now. i.e. fully rsync'ed my tree from Friday.

I'm thinking of getting such a system in the next 2-3 months :) I just
wanted to ensure I would'nt get stuck with not very well supported *yet*
hardware.

> Note to ASUS SK8N users: they must update their BIOS to something >= 
> 1002 first.

I believe a bios version 1003_03 is available since 19/9/2003
(http://www.amdzone.com/#1).

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[Cooker] Opteron and nForce3

2003-09-20 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

Has anyone on the cooker list had the privilege to try the upcoming 9.2
on an Opteron/nForce3 configuration (single or dual Opteron)?
If yes, how does it run?

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Re: [Cooker] RC3 or not?

2003-09-18 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 08:23, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:31:48PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 21:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > 
> > > > Just checking the wiki and final is planned for 22 Sep.
> > > > Is Mandrakesoft sticking to this date or will we have the honor of a RC3
> > > > to make sure nothing got screwed by fixes for RC2?
> > > > 
> > > > I was pleased by RC2 (at least on the dual box I installed it on) but I
> > > > was just wondering if it would be wiser to issue a RC3 and postponed
> > > > final to the end of September?
> > > > 
> > > > Looking forward to final anyway.
> > > 
> > > if you ask cooker , i think the answer is "We need a RC3"
> > > but Mandrakesoft ?
> > 
> > You think? I see no need for one.
> 
> An important infrastructure item as getting updates does not work at
> this time. I think that should work before shipping the final version.
> If not the mechanism to correct errors is not working, at least not as
> intended here - you can ofcause do it later on, but then that is not
> tested, and not as automatic as what we have in the installation.
> 
> Best regards
> Keld

Considering the comments I've seen on this issue I guess Mandrake should
release a RC3 providing they can postponed final until late September.
If for commercial reasons they have to release ~22/9 then there will be
no RC3 I'm affraid...

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[Cooker] RC3 or not?

2003-09-17 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

Just checking the wiki and final is planned for 22 Sep.
Is Mandrakesoft sticking to this date or will we have the honor of a RC3
to make sure nothing got screwed by fixes for RC2?

I was pleased by RC2 (at least on the dual box I installed it on) but I
was just wondering if it would be wiser to issue a RC3 and postponed
final to the end of September?

Looking forward to final anyway.

Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] jabber jit (icq) transport

2003-09-16 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:07:34 +0200, Luca Olivetti wrote:

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> Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:39:50 +0200, Luca Olivetti wrote:
>> 
>> 
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>>>The icq transport supplied with jabber http://icqv7-t.sourceforge.net/ 
>>>has been discontinued.
>>>I've made for myself a separate package for jit http://jit.jabberstudio.org
>>>It's a "works for me(tm)" package built under 9.1 (but I see no reason 
>>>why it shouldn't build under cooker). Is there any interest on this 
>>>package if I upload it to incoming?
>> 
>> 
>> Please wait until 9.2 is out and cooker is unfrozen.. I didn't put it in
>> jabber package because it requires its own jabberd implementation. Has
>> this changed ?
>> 
> 
> Well, yes, it has its own jabberd daemon, but I renamed it and I'm using 
> it alongside the standard one (after all even icqv7-t has itw own daemon).
> Considering that cooker is frozen and jabber is in main, I've packaged 
> jit separately so it could go in contribs.

I would really prefer you keep it outside contrib and we will merge it
directly into jabber main package when cooker is unfrozen..

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Re: [Cooker] Gnome notification applet taking 1000f cpu

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:34:53 +0200, Bellegarde Cedric wrote:

> Don't know if it could help but after startup, if you move pointer on
> notification applet, it stop eating 1000f cpu...

Good news.. This is was a gtk+ 2.2.4 bug which is now fixed, thanks to
Owen Taylor.. Just waiting for QA to test fixed packages..

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Re: [Cooker] Totem as default mp3 player for Galeon?

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:13:51 -0500, Larry Nguyen wrote:

> Thierry Vignaud wrote:
>> Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> 
>>>So, I decided to "urpmi xmms" which is no big deal. Shouldn't xmms
>>>be installed in the 1st place?
>> 
>> 
>> interface team thinks totem is better for end users
>> 
>> 
> 
> That's fine as long as it could play mp3 list like xmms does, IMHO. I 
> guess I wasn't clear. I could not play the mp3 list from Galeon with 
> Totem that i used to be able to with Galeon+xmms per default install.

Well, I've just tried on shoutcast and it worked fine with galeon +
totem...

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[Cooker] [Bug 4314] [drakxtools] Firewire storage not recognized

2003-09-15 Thread [frederic]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4314


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Tried latest ISOs for RC2 and the 2 HDs in my firewire enclosure are correctly
detected (which means also that the multi LUN stuff is working).
So far I could only get the master drive to be seen on another linux installation.
Brilliant!

I guess I can close this one.

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Trying to install LM9.2b1 (cooker?) using a network.img floppy and FTP
(ftp.club-internet.fr)
I have an external USB HD and a firewire enclosure with 1 HD in it. Diskdrake
displays the USB storage as "sda". The Firewire drive does not appear. I
expected to see the firewire drive as "sdb".

Also can Mandrakesoft ensure the firewire stuff in the kernel is taken from
http://www.linux1394.org/ to have the latest development tree (maybe it's
already the case but I haven't been able to install 9.2b1 to verify). The
firewire stuff is changing rapidly and it would be nice to have these firewire
HD enclosure, iPod , etc... working straight out of the box with hotplug.



Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote:

> 
> --- Götz Waschk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric
>> Johnson:
>> > Why?
>> Space constrains on the CDs.
> 
> Are you sure about that?  That does not make any sense to me
> considering the large number of non-essiential programs that
> could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web
> browser since they dropped Netscape.

Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps 
which uses gecko..

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Re: [Cooker] Gnome notification applet taking 1000f cpu

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:34:53 +0200, Bellegarde Cedric wrote:

> Don't know if it could help but after startup, if you move pointer on
> notification applet, it stop eating 1000f cpu...

Thanks for this info.. It seems to indicate a bug in latest GTK+.. I'll
filled a bug upstream : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122327

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Re: [Cooker] gnome-panel : transparency broken

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:06:16 +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I can't get transparency to work anymore on gnome panels.
> Whatever the transparency setting is, the panel is always opaque.
> Can anyone confirm this ?

No, it is not completely broken :

your default background file is not present (mandrake_theme/mandrake_desk
broken stuff) in /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png (it should be a
symlink to the new background). In that case, gnome-panel defaults to "no
transparency".. I know it should use default background color instead but
it is a very little side-effect bug.. Please fill a bug on
bugzilla.gnome.org 

> BTW, Gnome2 and Nautilus are now fast as hell, thanks for your work
> Fred, you've really improved Gnome within some weeks :)

Thanks :) I wish I could fix the 100
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Re: [Cooker] jabber jit (icq) transport

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:39:50 +0200, Luca Olivetti wrote:

> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
> --enigF4C84F50387899E03D1721BF
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> The icq transport supplied with jabber http://icqv7-t.sourceforge.net/ 
> has been discontinued.
> I've made for myself a separate package for jit http://jit.jabberstudio.org
> It's a "works for me(tm)" package built under 9.1 (but I see no reason 
> why it shouldn't build under cooker). Is there any interest on this 
> package if I upload it to incoming?

Please wait until 9.2 is out and cooker is unfrozen.. I didn't put it in
jabber package because it requires its own jabberd implementation. Has
this changed ?

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Re: [Cooker] Epiphany is now the default GNOME web browser

2003-09-15 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:12:27 +0200, John Keller wrote:

> Steve Fox wrote:
>> On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:39, John Keller wrote:
>>
>> > Epiphany was chosen sometime before 2 July:
>> >
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-July/msg00016.html
>> >
>> > Epiphany might be gnome default in Mdk 10, but not before:
>> > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5018
>>
>> I guess I didn't make myself clear. I know GNOME has selected Epiphany
>> to be the default, but Frederic stated that Galeon will remain the
>> default for Mandrake.
>>
>> My comment was that in a recent Cooker update, my default was forced to
>> be Epiphany. Frederic needs to possibly hack whatever package controls
>> that, so that MDK 9.2 will default to Galeon.
> 
> Ah, gotcha; sorry 'bout that. I understood it the same way Adam did.

This should be fixed now.. In fact, libgnome was only using
webclient-gnome for http and not https :((

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Re: [Cooker] Galeon 1.3.8, trouble rendering characters?

2003-09-12 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:16:03 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:09, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 14:34, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:22:17 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > 
>> > > On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 14:11, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> > >> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:07:03 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > >> 
>> > >> > Since Galeon went up to 1.3.8, it seems to have trouble rendering a lot
>> > >> > of characters it could deal with before...just one example, the UK pound
>> > >> > sterling currency sign - £ - is rendered as one of those little boxes
>> > >> > with the character code numbers in it, as are a bunch of other signs
>> > >> > it's always been able to display before. I have my encoding set to
>> > >> > Unicode (UTF-8). Fred?
>> > >> 
>> > >> Testcase ?
>> > > 
>> > > Yeah, hang on, here's a couple...
>> > > 
>> > > http://mikesbballrants.blogspot.com/
>> > > 
>> > > Look at the end of the first entry (the paragraph starting "The first
>> > > person these criteria...". I see non-rendered characters after these
>> > > bits of text:
>> > > 
>> > > "2.53 ERA while pitching 24"
>> > > "count 'em 24!"
>> > > "voted for Norris in a heartbeat"
>> > > "To be continued"
>> > > 
>> > > http://forums.sudhian.com/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=42566
>> > > 
>> > > Look at the post from "ciqala", I see a non-rendered character before
>> > > this text:
>> > > 
>> > > "700 for the case plus shipping"
>> > > 
>> > > which I think is meant to be a pound sign.
>> > 
>> > No problem here.. Make sure you don't have a strange encoding selected..
>> 
>> Well, see first post, it's set to Unicode (UTF-8). I haven't changed any
>> settings at all since upgrading. Let me go and play with it a bit...
> 
> Okay, further. Changing my encoding to Western European doesn't fix it.
> Moving ~/.galeon away doesn't fix it. Anything else to try? It's also
> not a font problem, as I tried a couple of alternatives with the same
> result. I use the Vera fonts.

Remove your galeon gconf settings..

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Re: [Cooker] Galeon 1.3.8, trouble rendering characters?

2003-09-12 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:22:17 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 14:11, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:07:03 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> 
>> > Since Galeon went up to 1.3.8, it seems to have trouble rendering a lot
>> > of characters it could deal with before...just one example, the UK pound
>> > sterling currency sign - £ - is rendered as one of those little boxes
>> > with the character code numbers in it, as are a bunch of other signs
>> > it's always been able to display before. I have my encoding set to
>> > Unicode (UTF-8). Fred?
>> 
>> Testcase ?
> 
> Yeah, hang on, here's a couple...
> 
> http://mikesbballrants.blogspot.com/
> 
> Look at the end of the first entry (the paragraph starting "The first
> person these criteria...". I see non-rendered characters after these
> bits of text:
> 
> "2.53 ERA while pitching 24"
> "count 'em 24!"
> "voted for Norris in a heartbeat"
> "To be continued"
> 
> http://forums.sudhian.com/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=42566
> 
> Look at the post from "ciqala", I see a non-rendered character before
> this text:
> 
> "700 for the case plus shipping"
> 
> which I think is meant to be a pound sign.

No problem here.. Make sure you don't have a strange encoding selected..

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Re: [Cooker] Galeon 1.3.8, trouble rendering characters?

2003-09-12 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:07:03 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Since Galeon went up to 1.3.8, it seems to have trouble rendering a lot
> of characters it could deal with before...just one example, the UK pound
> sterling currency sign - £ - is rendered as one of those little boxes
> with the character code numbers in it, as are a bunch of other signs
> it's always been able to display before. I have my encoding set to
> Unicode (UTF-8). Fred?

Testcase ?

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Re: [Cooker] Gnome notification applet taking 1000f cpu

2003-09-12 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:25:20 +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:

>> At gnome startup, notification applet take 1000f cpu. After some
>> seconds(30s), it works normaly... Someone with same problem?
> 
> Yes, but this occurs only at first gnome startup, if you log out and
> log in again, this doesn't occur anymore.

No, it is always occuring on some systems (my test system and my home one)..

It seems to be caused by pam-panel-icon which always updates itself..



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Re: [Cooker] gnome crash after changing theme to gorilla

2003-09-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:00:44 +0200, Kim Schulz wrote:

> hi
> I just wanted to change my theme from a custom (industrial with other
> icons) to gorilla theme. That made the gnome panel crash over and over
> again.
> I opened gnome-control-panel via a console and changed the theme to
> industrial, and then it stopped crashing. 
> changing back to gorilla theme makes it crash again.
> 
> Can anyone verify this error? 

I should be fixed with latest libart_lgpl 2.3.16 which contains a big
crasher fix..

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Re: [Cooker] Galeon crashes quite often

2003-09-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:07:21 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:

> Galeon crashes several times a day, always after closing a tab. I can't 
> reproduce it as I may occur or not on the same page...
> 
> Browsing gnome bugzilla I found nothing related...

I'm preparing a new galeon which contains some crashes fixes.. Let's hope
it will fixe yours..

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts

2003-09-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:23:13 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

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> Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
>> FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>>>so they don't know how to use css, class, implicite class, etc ... ?
>>>The problem is that many mdk site need to be redesigned.
>>
>>
>> the others websites (like mandrake-linux.com) are old and was designed
>> for the only descent linux browser available at this time the so
>> famous buggy, crap, ugly and closed-source called Netscape4 (which had
>> problems to handle even CSS1 *SIGH*).
>>
> 
> The question of course is, will the webmaster take patches? If so, where
> can we find cvs? Maybe community power can help in reworking the sites?

You can try to contact Gaël who is in charge of web sites..

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck :)

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Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience

2003-09-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:42:35 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

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> 
> Here are two patches for bash completion.
> 
> The first one provides those mighty improvments for urpmi (and friends) 
> completion:
>  - ligthning-fast package completion using latest urpmi pre-generated package 
> lists
>  - avoid querying database when word to complete is clearly a file
>  - up-to-date option list
>  - some minor forgotten completion fixed
> 
> The second one fixes some problems with service completion, such as trying to 
> complete past the 3rd word, or completing to non-service files as 
> /etc/init.d/function.
> 
> Please test, and if no serious bug is found, i'll happily commit those patches 
> to bash-completion package.

BTW, could you fix bash-completion so :

gendiff foobar-x.y | bzip2 -c > [TAB] will allow TAB to use ANY (or at
least .bz2) file for this redirection.

Thanks :)

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Re: [Cooker] xscreensaver requires

2003-09-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:40:47 +0100, Crispin Boylan wrote:

> Hi
> 
> xscreensaver has requires on chbg - but this is not needed anymore can 
> it be fixed?

It is needed for gdadou, Mdk default XScreensaver...

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Re: [Cooker] Epiphany is now the default GNOME web browser

2003-09-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:09:00 -0500, Steve Fox wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:39, John Keller wrote:
> 
>> Epiphany was chosen sometime before 2 July:
>> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-July/msg00016.html
>> 
>> Epiphany might be gnome default in Mdk 10, but not before:
>> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5018
> 
> I guess I didn't make myself clear. I know GNOME has selected Epiphany
> to be the default, but Frederic stated that Galeon will remain the
> default for Mandrake.
> 
> My comment was that in a recent Cooker update, my default was forced to
> be Epiphany. Frederic needs to possibly hack whatever package controls
> that, so that MDK 9.2 will default to Galeon.

Arggg.. The patch to fix that in libgnome didn't apply correctly :((

Fixing..

Next time, be more vocal or file a bug report :))

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Re: [Cooker] [HARDWARE] Bewan ADSL PCI support

2003-09-09 Thread Frederic Guardia
Le mar 09/09/2003 à 17:36, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
> Ainsi parlait FACORAT Fabrice :
> > The drivers seems to be GPL :
> > http://www.bewan.fr/bewan/utilisateurs/telechargement/pilotes/adsl/linux/A9
> >04-A888-0.6.1.tar.gz
> The included firmware is not, and comes from Microelectronics, not Bewan.
> 
> We're working on a PLF drivers package however.
Only the source provided by bewan is under GPL. I have already done a
package that adds the source code in the 3rdparty kernel tree for this
modem series. Actually, this package is not yet available but I am in
discussion with Guillaume Rousse on the plf site. I hope we are going to
find a solution rapidly.
Anybody interessed can contact me.  




Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4

2003-09-09 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:33:52 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

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> 
> Robert Fox wrote:
>> On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:33, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> 
>>>Install libstdc++2.10
>>
>>
>> IT WORKS!!!  Yipee!
>>
>> Not a very obvious one though . . .
> 
> So, file a bug on the Flash package you installed ... they need to add
> some requires.

There are already there.. But if people install flash themselves, we can't
do anything..

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Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4

2003-09-09 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:48:44 +0200, Robert Fox wrote:

> I've tried this on several machines.  I can't get Mozilla 1.4 to see the
> flash plugins - what am I doing wrong here?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins/
> total 1461
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  856 Sep  9 14:28 flashplayer.xpt*
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   57 Sep  9 14:13
> javaplugin_oji.so ->
> /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1470464 Sep  9 14:28
> libflashplayer.so*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root20240 Sep  5 20:12
> libnullplugin.so*

Install libstdc++2.10


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Re: [Cooker] packager email?

2003-09-08 Thread Frederic Lepied
Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi.
> 
> Since when did this change?

Since 23-Oct-01

> W: libdspam3-devel invalid-packager Oden Eriksson 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The packager email must finish with @mandrakesoft.com or must be 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> rpmlint complains about this, what should I do?

Just ignore it. I will correct this in the next release.
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Re: [Cooker] error installing nautilus-gtkhtml-0.3.2-7mdk

2003-09-08 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 20:26:54 +0800, Victor Roetman wrote:

> In doing a default English NFS install from today's cooker, I get the 
> following error after installing the packages, but before entering the 
> passwords:
> 
> There was an error installing packages nautilus-gtkhtml-0.3.2-7mdk.i586
> Go on anyway?
> 
> I do not see this package in the cooker.

It has been moved to contrib and I forgot to remove it from default
install.. Should be fixed now..


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Re: [Cooker] perms on /dev/rtc device

2003-09-06 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:28:38 +0200, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :

> Ainsi parlait Frederic Crozat :
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:14:34 +0200, Jan Ciger wrote:
>> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> > Hash: SHA1
>> >
>> > Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> > | console privilege != console user...
>> > | console privilege means this user is connected physically on the
>> > | system, either by using a text console or a graphical console
>> > | (gdm/kdm).
>> >
>> > Yes, that was what I meant (via pam_console). Is it necessary to limit
>> > read access to /dev/rtc to just locally logged in users ?
>>
>> I'm not sure if it is a security risk or not.. Let's first try the safest
>> solution :)
> mplayer works perfeclty, but there is still a problem with tvtime (from 
> contrib):
> Can't get realtime priority for better performance, need root access.

Yeah, I saw that but I don't think it is related to /dev/rtc.. tvtime is
probably trying to nice itself to real-time, which is only permitted for
root. Anyway, it still works great and latest version has now a menu.. I
think we will soon be able to replace xawtv with tvtime as the default TV
app :)

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gnome-media-2.3.90-2mdk

2003-09-04 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:59:41 +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:

> On Thu,  4 Sep 2003 19:48:00 +0200 (CEST)
> Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> -=-=-=-
>> Name: gnome-media
>> Version : 2.3.90
>> Release : 2mdk
> 
>> Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.3.90-1mdk
>> 
>> - Release 2.3.90
>> - Fix BuildRequires
> 
> The release tag doesn't match the release in changelog, isn't rpmlint
> supposed to detect that ?

Argg, I uploaded the wrong package.. Rebuilding now :(

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Re: [Cooker] Epiphany as the top choice for webclient-gnome?

2003-09-04 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:57:10 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote:

> --LwW0XdcUbUexiWVK
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> 
> 
> How about bumping up the priority of epiphany as the best choice for
> webclient-gnome, since epiphany is now considered "Gnome's choice" for
> web browser?
> 
> Generally the "best choice" thing is for newbies, since a little more
> 'advanced' users (who can distinguish between galeon, epiphany, mozilla
> etc), can select their own favorite browser, or tweak the alternative to
> manual mode instead. Anyway, which would be better? Epiphany? Galeon?

Please, read previous bug report about that..

I don't think we should change to Epiphany now.. Galeon has been Mdk GNOME
default browser for a looong time and I don't want to change it now..

Maybe for Mdk 10.0

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk

2003-09-04 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 14:09:00 +0200, David Baudens wrote:

> On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:30, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>> David Baudens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an
>> > office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install
>> > computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no
>> > reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is
>> > installed.
>> >
>> > Act as that seems to me reasonable
>>
>> I humbly think that's not good.
>>
>> Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real
>> check of the disk is to open a "Command Prompt" (that's how it's
>> called, and it's installed by default) and to use "chkdsk" from
>> there. Just to show that even users of XP ("the easy OS") need
>> sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage
>> them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake.
>>
>> Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux
>> is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to
>> ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these
>> friends will surely often ask them to open a "console" or a
>> "terminal" and launch whatever command from there. Hitting
>> Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to
>> launch an XFree app). Thus, a "terminal" program should be
>> installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble
>> opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the
>> friend is a Debian fan he won't know that).
> 
> ?
> 
> I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users 
> don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when 
> you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one 
> after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal.
> 
> I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you 
> also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker 
> users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal.

Then we should move Terminal menu entry from main menu to a subsection
(Applications is probably the best choice).

Moreover, for people not using GNOME/KDE default install (ie without
gnome-terminal/konsole installed), rxvt won't appear in menu, even if it
is available.. I think it is wrong, since our menu used to display all
available graphical applications installed on the system..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] 9 bugs not reported for mdk 9.2rc1

2003-09-03 Thread Frederic Soulier
>  A) when installing and at the pick partition to be formatted
> the win_C and win_D looks like winc and wind where c and d are underlined.

See bug#4678 which I reported on 11/08 and was (apparently) fixed... or
not.

-- 
Frederic Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gnome-media-2.3.90-1mdk

2003-09-03 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:46:28 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote:

> --oxV4ZoPwBLqAyY+a
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> This is fun:
> 
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Name: gnome-media  Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 2.3.8 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 2mdk  Build Date: Mon Sep  1 14:25:09=
>  2003
> Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-
> David Baudens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> - Split
> 
> 
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Name: gnome-media  Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 2.3.90Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Tue Sep  2 15:46:20=
>  2003
> Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host: hp6.mandrakesoft.com
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.3.90-1mdk
> - Release 2.3.90
> - Fix BuildRequires
> 
> 
> Fred, does gnome-media worth a split in your opinion?

No.. but some people don't seem to care about my opinion..

Anyway, this issue should be fixed with -2mdk (both packages were uploaded
at the same time, with my package overriding everything :((

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] buglet in /sbin/installkernel

2003-09-03 Thread Frederic Lepied
Thomas Backlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Olivier Blin kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Tiistai 2. Syyskuuta 2003 
> 19:04):
> > > It looks like a typo -- should read $kernel_source instead?
> >
> > Yep, it looks like, can you file a bug report since it isn't already
> > fixed ?
> > Thanks
> 
> the bootloader-utils needs even more fixes:
> - it needs to obsolete/provide kernel-utils for updates,
>   or rpm will complain about older kernels...
> - fix typo mentioned above in installkernel
> - fix getopts in installkernel
> 
> patches that fixes theese are attached !!
> and for those who can't wait:
> http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/bootloader-utils-1.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
> http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/bootloader-utils-1.4-2mdk.src.rpm

I have committed the changes on installkernel but it's not a good idea
to obsolete/provide kernel-utils because it will break updates from
9.1. kernel-utils was a transient name used by error only in cooker.
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you



Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] nautilus-gtkhtml-0.3.2-7mdk

2003-09-03 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Wed, 03 Sep 2003 13:04:44 +0800, Abel Cheung a écrit :

> --St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> On 2003-09-03(Wed) 06:48:27 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> -=3D-=3D-=3D-
>> Name: nautilus-gtkhtml Relocations: (not relocateable)
>> Version : 0.3.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
>> Release : 7mdk  Build Date: Tue Sep  2 16:14:=
> 47 2003
>> -=3D-=3D-=3D-
>> Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.3.2-7mdk
>>=20
>> - Fix BuildRequires
> 
> Fred, probably my previous mail didn't reach you; can this package be
> moved to contrib instead? If there is need to render HTML in nautilus,
> there's already epiphany and galeon, which both have a nautilus view;
> and nautilus-gtkhtml has stopped development for more than a year.
> Can this count as an obsolete software which has a better substitute?

Epiphany doesn't have a nautilus view, only galeon does..

Anyway, you are right, I'll move it..

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft






Re: [Cooker] Logging out Gnome

2003-09-02 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 15:13:30 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote:

> Hi,
> When I click on the logout icon in the panel I used to have a dialog box 
> asking me if I wanted to reboot, shutdown or logout and I could cancel 
> at this step.
> 
> Now I get logued out immediatly with everything killed if I miss another 
> icon (lock for example) and click on this one. Is this a bug or a 
> decided change of behaviour ? If it is a bug, wher should I look (gdm, 
> my conf (create another panel ?)...)

Run gnome-session-properties, you can configure that..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] nautilus-2.3.9-4mdk

2003-09-01 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:10:50 +0100, Adam Williamson a écrit :

> On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 17:46, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> -=-=-=-
>> Name: nautilus Relocations: (not relocateable)
>> Version : 2.3.9 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
>> Release : 4mdk  Build Date: Mon Sep  1 18:19:37 2003
>> Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host: hp6.mandrakesoft.com
>> Group   : File toolsSource RPM: (none)
>> Size: 5547856  License: GPL
>> Signature   : (none)
>> Packager: Mandrake Linux Team <http://www.mandrakeexpert.com>
>> URL : http://www.gnome.org/projects/nautilus/
>> Summary : Nautilus is a file manager for the GNOME desktop environment.
>> Description :
>> Nautilus is an excellent file manager for the GNOME desktop environment.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -=-=-=-
>> Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.3.9-4mdk
>> 
>> - Remove patch 32, better fix in gnome-vfs now..
>> - Patch32 (CVS): fix blank home icon
> 
> So...er...why upload this package at all? :)

Because first line is about patch 32 from 2.3.9-3mdk, not the new one..

What is your login again ? I may add some nice "if username == adamw then
reboot" :))

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft






Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gnome2-2.4.0-1mdk

2003-09-01 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:43:42 +0200, John Keller wrote:

> Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> - Release 2.4.0
> 
> I was really happy, then I realized: I thought it was still at beta 2, or at
> most just entered RC?

RC is for very soon..

I simply don't want to forget this "virtual" package before Mdk 9.2 final :)

> Also, the URL should probably be updated to http://www.gnome.org/start/2.4/
> (not yet operational) for the RPMs that use the "start" address.

Nice catch.. Nobody found the error for 2.2 :)

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] buglet in /sbin/installkernel

2003-09-01 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:51:26 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote:


> + local kernel_source=3D/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-3mdk
> + '[' -d /usr/src/linux-2.4.22-3mdk ']'
> + ln -sf -source /lib/modules/2.4.22-3mdk/build
> ln: invalid option -- o
> Try `ln --help' for more information.
> It looks like a typo -- should read $kernel_source instead?

I don't know but thanks for finding this one.. I was wondering why I was
getting that for each kernel install at home :)-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Can't edit items on gnome desktop

2003-08-29 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:36:48 +0200, Bellegarde Cédric a écrit :

> --=-dVcR4V1cFR8rd9sTNpqt
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> Here is a patch :)

Heh, I was kidding :)

Moreover, I fixed it this afternoon..

Sorry for that.. But you can dig into GNOME bugzilla and fix other bugs,
I'm sure Alex and Dave will be more than happy :)
-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft






Re: [Cooker] please move glimmer to the contribs

2003-08-29 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:05:26 +0200, Götz Waschk wrote:

> Am Freitag, 29. August 2003, 16:45:48 Uhr MET, schrieb Götz Waschk:
>> the current glimmer in main so broken it doesn't even start. It
>> wouldn't be nice to ship it on the 9.2 CDs. We should move it to
>> contribs and update it to the new version (which is alpha and not
>> usable yet).
>> I've already tried this with rpmctl without success, there wasn't even
>> an error message :-(
> 
> Oops, now there was a success message. Why didn't it move the src.rpm
> to contribs, my command was this:
> rpmctl -v 2 -m cooker main cooker contrib "doesn't work at all and the new version 
> isn't usable yet" glimmer

you forgot "-s" for source package..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gdm-2.4.2.102-3mdk

2003-08-29 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:54:50 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

> Ainsi parlait Frederic Crozat :
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 04:31:42 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
>> > Ainsi parlait 2.4.2.102-3mdk :
>> >> -=-=-=-
>> >> 2.4.2.102-3mdk
>> >>
>> >> - Update theme to use specific gdm background
>> >
>> > Fred, are you using my vim spec mode by any chance :-) ?
>>
>> Yes, I switched from xemacs to gvim and asked titi to add it to package..
>> But I haven't yet configured my email address in vim so I have to
>> type it for each changelog entry :(
> Don't you have a 0ackager tag in your .rpmmacros ?

No, I can't, otherwise rpm will use it instead of "MandrakeExpert
blablabla" one :)

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Can't edit items on gnome desktop

2003-08-28 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:01:56 +0200, Bellegarde Cédric a écrit :

> Since gnome-2.2, we can't edit items on gnome-desktop. The function
> always exist  ("editer le lanceur" in french) but only in
> applications:///. gnome-2.4 will be out soon and function is always
> unavailable. It will be cool to add a little patch to add an item in
> gnome-desktop/nautilus menu :)

Fill a bug report.. With a patch, it is even better :)

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft






Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pango-1.2.4-1mdk

2003-08-28 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:45:19 +0200, John Keller wrote:

> -1mdk wrote:
>> -=-=-=-
>> Name: pangoRelocations: (not relocateable)
>> Version : 1.2.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
>> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Wed Aug 27
> 11:33:39 2003
>> Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host:
> hp6.mandrakesoft.com
>> Group   : System/Internationalization   Source RPM: (none)
>> Size: 878002   License: LGPL
>> Signature   : (none)
>> Packager: Mandrake Linux Team <http://www.mandrakeexpert.com>
>> URL : http://www.pango.org/
>> Summary : System for layout and rendering of internationalized text
>> Description :
>> A library to handle unicode strings as well as complex bidirectional
>> or context dependent shaped strings.
>> It is the next step on Gtk+ internationalization.
>>
>>
>>
>> -=-=-=-
>> -1mdk
>>
>> -
>>
>> -=-=-=-
>> No rpmlint error, happy man :-)
>>
> [...]
> 
> Huh???

There is one bogus entry in package changelog => changelog list got
confused..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gdm-2.4.2.102-3mdk

2003-08-28 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 04:31:42 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

> Ainsi parlait 2.4.2.102-3mdk :
>> -=-=-=-
>> 2.4.2.102-3mdk
>>
>> - Update theme to use specific gdm background
> Fred, are you using my vim spec mode by any chance :-) ?

Yes, I switched from xemacs to gvim and asked titi to add it to package.. 
But I haven't yet configured my email address in vim so I have to
type it for each changelog entry :(



-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Gnome desktop icons belong to root

2003-08-26 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:22:28 +0200, Bellegarde Cédric a écrit :

> When you take an item in gnome menu and you put it on you're desktop,
> you haven't write access on this file. In fact, file belong to root.
> Seems to be a problem with /var/lib/gnome/Mandrake who belong to root...

Please, fill a bug report on bugzilla on gnome-panel package..

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft






[Cooker] Re: gdm

2003-08-26 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mar 26/08/2003 à 19:54, Yura Gusev a écrit :
> Hi, it will be nice to add host chooser to the default theme, the one that
> is used to choose on which host you wish to login like in Solaris DM.

I won't.. it is only useful for people with multiple systems with
XDMCP.. It is clearly not for newsbies..

But nothing prevent you to do your own theme..
-- 
Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mandrakesoft




[Cooker] Re: kernel install - no build link

2003-08-26 Thread Frederic Lepied
Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > "buchan" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> CC'd flepied, that is supposed to be the rpm master.
> 
> buchan> Paul Misner wrote:
> >> The way to manually correct this has been discussed on the cooker
> buchan> list, but it
> >> is surprising to find this problem still present.  Is it associated
> buchan> with the
> >> conflicts between kernel-utils and bootloader-utils?
> 
> My understanding is that when one package replaces other, this is
> enough:
> 
> Obsoletes: kernel-utils
> Provides: kernel-utils
> 
> I think that the problem was the _manual_ installation of
> installkernel after bootloader-utils.
> 
> Fred, do I need to add a Conflicts tag, or removing kernel-utils from
> the repository should be enough?

It should be enough to remove it.
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you



Re: [Cooker] Suggestion for improved user experience

2003-08-26 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:40:12 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Vincent Danen wrote:
>> On Tue Aug 26, 2003 at 12:43:33AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
>>
>>>>>If mandrakesecure.net had RDF this wouldn't be too difficult. Vince?
>>>>
>>
>> How's this?
>>
>> http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/rss.php
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Does that do what you want?
>>
> 
> I can't test with karamba now (doesn't have support for authenticating
> proxies AFAIK), I will test from home later, but I tested with Evolution:
> 
> http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/screenshots/mandrakesecure-rdf-evolution.png
> 
> (It would be nice though if articles/documentation were also listed though)
> 
> Fred, any chance we can get this into the default summary screen in
> Evolution?

Shouldn't be too difficult.. Please fill a bug so I don't forget..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gdm-2.4.2.101-1mdk

2003-08-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:18:38 +0200, John Keller wrote:

> Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> - Release 2.4.2.101
>> - Regenerate patch0
>> - Remove source1, no longer needed
> 
> Fred, have you seen this yet?
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4700
> 
> It's an updated version of the Mandrake mdk.xml that uses the new variables
> (so that the user can customize the greeting, among others). It also uses
> the new placeholder variables for localization so that you don't have to
> worry about translations.

Yes, I've seen it.. But I also need to merge other stuff in Mdk gdm theme
and I planned to do everything at the same time (probably this week, once
I nailed the 100
-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] perms on /dev/rtc device

2003-08-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:14:34 +0200, Jan Ciger wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Frederic Crozat wrote:
> | console privilege != console user...
> | console privilege means this user is connected physically on the system,
> | either by using a text console or a graphical console (gdm/kdm).
> 
> Yes, that was what I meant (via pam_console). Is it necessary to limit
> read access to /dev/rtc to just locally logged in users ?

I'm not sure if it is a security risk or not.. Let's first try the safest
solution :)

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft




[Cooker] Re: perms on /dev/rtc device

2003-08-25 Thread Frederic Lepied
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Several multimedia applications use /dev/rtc, such as tvtime and mplayer.
> However, standard perms on this device doesn't allow its use:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux]# ll /dev/misc/rtc
> crw-r-1 root root  10, 135 jan  1  1970 /dev/misc/rtc
> 
> I guess some pam configuration could dynamically turn these perms for the 
> user, as for the audio devices.

ok will be in next pam release
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you



Re: [Cooker] perms on /dev/rtc device

2003-08-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:47:00 +0200, Jan Ciger a écrit :

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Frederic Crozat wrote:
> |>I guess some pam configuration could dynamically turn these perms for the
> |>user, as for the audio devices.
> |
> |
> | Good idea, I was wondering the same thing yesterday.. I'll see with Fred
> | Lepied if we can add console privilege to that..
> |
> 
> Hmm, isn't it better to allow everybody to read /dev/rtc instead of just
> console user ? I do not think that it is a security hole and /dev/rtc
> could provide useful info for more things than for just mplayer running
> on the console that way.

console privilege != console user... 
console privilege means this user is connected physically on the system,
either by using a text console or a graphical console (gdm/kdm). 
-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft






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