Re: [Cooker] Re: Problems booting with ext3 for root partition
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 10:33, Duncan wrote: > I compile my own kernel from kernel.org sources, so haven't been following > this real closely, but AFAIK, any of the Mdk kernels work if ext3 support > is compiled directly into the kernel, rather than as a module. I also compile my own from kernel.org and have always compiled ext3 into the kernel because I've never seen a good reason to compile it as a module. In fact the help screen on ext3 says "Be aware however that the file system of your root partition (the one containing the directory /) cannot be compiled as a module, and so this may be dangerous". So if it is compiled as a module in mdk, against this advice, perhaps the maintainer(s) can give their explanation as to why this advice from the kernel team is wrong. -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement 193 rue Marcel Cerdan 84270 Vedene 04 90 23 30 81 <http://www.linuxautrement.com> IAX 17004902330 FWD 42651
Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:59, Simon Oosthoek wrote: > Why doesn't mandrake try to figure out WHY less people are testing cooker > than they'd like instead of blindly blaming people that "THEY" don't test > enough so therefore mandrake is buggy > > Mandrake is the one trying to make money doing this, I can always switch to > another distro if I find a better one, so I don't feel obligated to help > mandrake publish a buggy OS and then have them blame "me"/"us" for not > testing it enough! > > I don't think this is something we should be discussing on cooker, but > something that needs priority #1 at mandrakesoft development planning > meeting. How to get more (and happier) cooker developers and testers. And > how to release less buggy (or at least less noticably buggy) distros. > Couldn't have put it better myself. 100% in agreement. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Sane
According to the mirrors I've tried sane-backends and libraries are at 1.0.12-3mdk and sane-frontends is at 1.0.11-1mdk, neither kooka nor xsane allow me to scan. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 09:12, Dave Cotton wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 08:38, Randy Welch wrote: > > Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > > > Quel Qun wrote: > > > > > >> As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they > > >> are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network > > >> and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. > > >> > > > > I see this as well... > > It is not confined to runlevel 3, 5 is also incorrect The following links from /etc have been removed rc0.d -> rc.d/rc0.d/ rc1.d -> rc.d/rc1.d/ rc2.d -> rc.d/rc2.d/ rc3.d -> rc.d/rc3.d/ rc4.d -> rc.d/rc4.d/ rc5.d -> rc.d/rc5.d/ rc6.d -> rc.d/rc6.d/ -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 08:38, Randy Welch wrote: > Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > Quel Qun wrote: > > > >> As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they > >> are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network > >> and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. > >> > > I see this as well... It is not confined to runlevel 3, 5 is also incorrect. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Mirror updating
Last night I found a mirror that actually had some updates on (ftp.orst.edu). Looks like it's had many other problems also. I've no idea where it is in the chain. This is just one sample, nearly everything in main and contribs is the same. File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-10mdk.i586.rpm 208 KB 08/06/2003 09:01:00 AM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-12mdk.i586.rpm 208 KB 08/07/2003 02:01:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-13mdk.i586.rpm 208 KB 08/08/2003 02:13:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-14mdk.i586.rpm 209 KB 08/18/2003 08:17:00 AM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-18mdk.i586.rpm 209 KB 08/19/2003 07:35:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-1mdk.i586.rpm 208 KB 07/29/2003 01:46:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-26mdk.i586.rpm 210 KB 08/22/2002 06:23:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-31mdk.i586.rpm 211 KB 08/25/2002 08:12:00 AM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-38mdk.i586.rpm 212 KB 08/26/2002 07:18:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-3mdk.i586.rpm 207 KB 07/30/2003 04:01:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-43mdk.i586.rpm 212 KB 08/27/2002 11:07:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-48mdk.i586.rpm 213 KB 08/28/2002 09:59:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-4mdk.i586.rpm 207 KB 08/03/2003 06:30:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-52mdk.i586.rpm 213 KB 08/29/2002 07:41:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-59mdk.i586.rpm 214 KB 09/01/2003 06:18:00 PM File:kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-8mdk.i586.rpm 207 KB 08/05/2003 04:46:00 PM The good thing is that ftp.uninett.no seems to have got going again. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] problems with gftp-2.0.15
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:38, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > Le mer 27/08/2003 à 13:36, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > > "J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Somebody else sees this ? > > > > no. it works smoothly for me. > There 's a bug for me. > Create a bookmark that made a relation between a local directory ( for > example /var/www/html/site ) and a remote ftp site. > quit gftp, launch it from menu and select bookmark. > gftp will connect to remote ftp server ( fine ), display files of remote > ftp server ( fine ), you will see your local directory path in the url ( > fine ) but you will not see the content. You have to select the url > field and hit enter and then it will refresh and show your local > directory files. > > my local is at the left side, the remote at the right side. So that's 3 people who have bug no 5065, so how it can be unconfirmed escapes me. > -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: synchroning ftp (Was: Re: [Cooker] problems with main mirror - ftp.uninett.no)
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 16:40, Ben Reser wrote: > Debian can probably deal with only doing a twice daily update because > they don't have 6 month release cycles to keep... Question really is who set the 6 month limit? If the mad rush to keep up with the cycle causes the problems that are occurring at the moment then it must be questioned. If the problem isn't faced up to, there may not be a requirement for a six month cycle in the future, there may not be a future. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Resend Re: [Cooker] How do I get the fixes?
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 16:48, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Monday 01 September 2003 09:46 am, Clive Dove wrote: > > I had a look at the Cooker RPM directory in the mirrors holding the iso > > images, but there are no parts of kde that are dated after the issue of RC1 > > so they can't be the upgrade sources. > > > You should read the section of the cooker HOWTO about keeping up to date. > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Keeping_Your_Cooker_Installation 1. This suggests he finds a mirror from the plf link , take the first offered as an example ftp://mirror.cse.unsw.edu.au/mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base as of 08:00 CET File:hdlist.cz 19283 KB 08/26/2002 02:21:00 PM File:hdlist.src.cz 2607 KB 08/26/2002 02:21:00 PM File:hdlist2.cz 15091 KB 08/26/2002 02:22:00 PM File:hdlist2.src.cz 2179 KB 08/26/2002 02:22:00 PM File:hdlist3.cz 1995 KB 08/26/2002 02:22:00 PM File:hdlist3.src.cz 158 KB 08/26/2002 02:22:00 PM urpmi.update -a will check and recheck this file so urpmi --auto-select will update nothing. I can't be bothered to check all the others again but that has been the case for days now. The two highest band width mirrors in France where in an even worse state. Have I the latest urpmi etc I doubt it, for an explanation go to 1. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] urpmi problem
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 11:54, John Keller wrote: > Bellegarde Cedric wrote: > > When i run an urpmi --auto-select, urpmi don't tell me anyting if there > > is noting to upgrade. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnumdk]# urpmi --auto-select > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnumdk]# Really it should give a message of some sort, if just to prevent this question in the future. > > You need to run urpmi.update -a first. However, it may have simply been that > updates were simply backlogged. Yesterday I noticed that there weren't any > updates to my mirror even though there were announcements in the changelog > mailings. I looked at this this morning and found that if you use the master mirror from the cooker page, which points to uninett.no and urpmi picks up the hdlist.cz file from the base directory the version of kdebase is 26 even though the email change logs are in the mid fifties. So again it surely points to updating problems. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] mirrors ? cannot rsync with ftp.sunet.se
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 12:31, Adam Williamson wrote: > Well, it was a Sunday yesterday... And so should have given mirrors a chance to catch up if they could. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Tetex-2.0.2-8mdk
Doing urpmi.update -a on my local mirror error: /mnt/Cooker/tetex-2.0.2-8mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 digest: BAD Expected(145bb154870b9fff3665f8a1ab7366e7) != (436e70c5041c45d282a1ce772dc7085f) unable to read rpm files from [/mnt/Cooker]: bad rpm /mnt/Cooker/tetex-2.0.2-8mdk.i586.rpm -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] mirrors ? cannot rsync with ftp.sunet.se
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 07:47, Bernard Varaine wrote: > get error message when trying to sync contrib > IO error encountered after receiving file list > According to my log nothing has been updated there for at least 24 hours in either in main or contrib. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] More mirror madness
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:24, Adam Williamson wrote: > Cooker has nothing at all to do with "customers". Cooker is for > volunteer beta testers. That's what we are. And volunteers who are trying to ensure that the final paying _customers_ who buy boxed sets get a good well tested product, and keep Mandrake in the headlines for the right reasons. By definition cooker is the test ground for that purpose. Question, how can we test something like urpmi using ftp before the "customers" get hold of it if the sites are not stable at any time? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] More mirror madness
Elsewhere someone suggested that the master mirror should be updated only once or twice a day, this could well stop some of this madness. For quite a while I lost Evolution and so used Kmail to pull my mail, leaving the mails on my server, when I got Evolution working again I had 650 mails, this morning another 150. What did I find? Numerous changelog posts with incremental changes for the same packages, there were even two people packaging different major versions of the same program. So I check my cron messages, according to them, there was nothing to update for my local mirror during the night. Try urpmi.update on another mirror, nothing. If most people cannot obtain the new version to test how is it decided to make an incremental change? The mirrors must now resync across the world and so by definition will always be out of sync. If you send a post to cooker as I did this morning, it can take half a day before the confirm comes back and it is finally distributed, there's a good chance you are now reporting on a defunct version. "Works here", "Make sure you are 100% cooker" come the answers. Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for the market leader in specialist software used in the construction industry. If I caused this much havoc to our customers, with the financial consequences to them, I would have been hung out to dry. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] problems with gftp-2.0.15
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 01:53, Abel Cheung wrote: > On 2003-08-27(Wed) 09:51:11 +0200, Dave Cotton wrote: > > > > It does not refresh listings when connects to a new host. > > > > IE: connect to a host (ftp.uninett.no), see listing, select another host > > > > on the bookmarks menu (ftp.kernel.org), and there you have, all > > > > the cooker rpms have moved to the kernel site ;) > > > > I wished I could get that far. > > Really tested binary RPM from contrib with most current cooker, still no > problem with me. Alternatively, you may want to clear all config in > ~/.gftp and start again with gdb, and post the stack trace here? When I realised that gftp, evolution, mozilla, harddrake, userdrake, etc where all hosed I looked elsewhere. libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 was the common link, even though rpm confirmed it's existence I forced a reinstall and all apps are now working. Now I can confirm the same behaviour as J.A.M with gftp the remote listing window is not updated when you change sites, only after a manual refresh, and I've just noticed that the local listing window does not change to the directory defined in the bookmark. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] More mirror madness
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 10:01, Michael Scherer wrote: > Well, i think that people forget that mandrake employees are working. > They do not break mirrors for pleasure, and they are fully aware of the > problem. > > Do you really think they try to slow down the test ? to annoy their > testers ? > > no, they are working on it, and all we have to do is to wait. Sometimes, > a solution is not easy to find, or take time to be applied. Then a simple message to the cooker list could have advised everyone of the state of play and we could have held back until the situation was resolved . Or as Paul Dorman said in the previous post "We need a mirror status page" Lack of communication causes most problems. -- Dave Cotton
Re: [Cooker] problems with gftp-2.0.15
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 23:44, Abel Cheung wrote: > On 2003-08-26(Tue) 23:29:50 +0200, J.A. Magallon wrote: > > I have problems with gftp. > > It does not refresh listings when connects to a new host. > > IE: connect to a host (ftp.uninett.no), see listing, select another host > > on the bookmarks menu (ftp.kernel.org), and there you have, all > > the cooker rpms have moved to the kernel site ;) > > > > Somebody else sees this ? I wished I could get that far. > > (somebody was reporting segfault with gftp?). That's as far as I get. > > But one point to note: I am using the RPM built on my own laptop, not > the klama one Sorry but I have to ask, how can you use a different version to verify the problem? > I'll try to get the one built on klama and do more > testing. Just have some feeling that gftp can be b0rked because of the > klama mess... That would possibly help to explain why mozilla and evolution also have problems. -- Dave Cotton
Re: [Cooker] Latest? glibc
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:43, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > Works here, you have to provide more information. > Alternatively, you can > install glibc-debug, run e.g. gftp through gdb, you'll have glibc symbols > if it segfaults there. Starting program: /usr/bin/mozilla-bin (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 16384 (LWP 3381)] (no debugging symbols found)... Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 3381)] 0x in ?? () Starting program: /usr/bin/evolution (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 16384 (LWP 3375)] (no debugging symbols found)... Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 3375)] 0x40e69210 in gtk_editable_get_type () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 ( Starting program: /usr/bin/gftp-gtk (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 16384 (LWP 3364)] gFTP Warning: Skipping line 38 in config file: start_transfers gFTP Warning: Skipping line 59 in config file: firewall_host gFTP Warning: Skipping line 62 in config file: firewall_port gFTP Warning: Skipping line 65 in config file: firewall_username gFTP Warning: Skipping line 68 in config file: firewall_password gFTP Warning: Skipping line 71 in config file: firewall_account gFTP Warning: Skipping line 105 in config file: ssh1_sftp_path gFTP Warning: Skipping line 122 in config file: enable_old_ssh (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", (gftp-gtk:3364): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtpixmap2", Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 3364)] 0x08122168 in ?? () -- Dave Cotton
Re: [Cooker] More mirror madness
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 22:48, Paul Dorman wrote: > but I'm peeved You are not alone. > This happens too often (like, every day). Can the maintainers > **pah-lease** sort out the mirror situation. That gets my vote. I have posted on this list and 1 or 2 others have. Perhaps everyone in control things everything is hunky dory because so few complain. Maybe because there actually are so few who have not given up totally. Frequently when it all blows up in their faces after release we get the "well nobody told me so I assumed it was all right" type of posting. How many people are actually trying to test on as near to production as possible machines, I doubt more than a handful. There cannot be many because the mirror debacle over the last few days has not created a mass of postings. Mirrors all over the world have not been updating, mirrors have multiple versions of the same package. I receive changelogs that never reach a mirror. Mirrors have stale Carroll archiving messages. The primary mirror link on Cooker's home page hadn't updated for days. The two highest bandwidth mirrors in France club-internet and proxad had not been updated for days, proxad in fact had zero length files. The plea is always please test, give us the means to test and we will. > I will not participate in > the testing process if it means that I have to needlessly waste 100s of > megabytes of downloads on a daily basis. What about your time? > We need a mirror status page, and a mirror master to ensure that mirrors > are as they should be. Sorry to say this but it should not be forgotten that Mandrake is not out of the woods yet, another 9.1 and it could be the end of the line. -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement
[Cooker] Latest? glibc
Version glibc-2.3.2-12mdk 25/08/03 appears to have created problems for mozilla-1.4-4mdk dies without messages. evolution-1.4.4-4mdk and gftp-2.0.15-1mdk seg fault. -- Dave Cotton
Re: [Cooker] Updating
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 05:06, Michael E. Jaggers wrote: > The US feed for cooker (at least the sites that I know about) has been > busted for a while. It seems that a number of US sites get their cooker > from carroll.csc.psu.edu, and either the upstream node is broken, or > carroll can't handle the updates. Many of the mirrors have stale "carroll in updating state" files in their directory structure. The problem is how to unlock the situation, short of tracking down the updating route of mirrors? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Updating
Has anyone found a server anywhere in the world that has actually been updated today? I have tried virtually every one from Easy Urpmi and even looked at some manually. I've noticed a few have a file about update on carroll.psu.edu that looks pretty old. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] OT: on current viruses
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:47, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: > but the stupid > programmers of antivirus software, which are clever enough to analyze > that a virus is forging the sender, but did not manage yet - for > several years - to spread program versions which take this clue.[1] > > Although the worm flood is bothering enough, it is at least easily > handled. All those automatic notifications, which have no common > characteristic most times, are what really cause me work. > [1] I.e. make their software not sending notifications on such worms, > no matter what preferences the user choses. And that's regardless > of what one thinks about the the value of such notifications to > begin with. Perhaps the programmers are not stupid, it's their management who are doing it to spam on the back of the worm. I left a company of which I was head of R&D because of management like that. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] OT: on current viruses
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 19:00, Austin wrote: > Hey, > I keep getting these messages from virus scanners on various mail servers all > over the world saying that I tried to send a virus infected email through > their mail server. It's the sobig.f virus, which is written in MSVC, and > propogates through windows, so I don't see how I could have sent it to anyone, > but they attach a copy of it with my return address. I've had exactly the same thing and feel equally as angry as you, but try this as an idea. You are getting these from systems that may have been set up by MSCEs, whatever that means. They have been set up using the defaults supplied by the suppliers, because these poor souls know no better, who really have seen an opportunity to spam the world with news of their wonderful anti-virus product, under the guise of information. One shows actual stupidity, the person whose name appears in the from is certainly not the one who sent the mail, because that's the way the worm works, and the other is nothing more than pure spamming because the creators know that is the case. But without the hype they would not sell there products. I equally take exception to the press reporting, the use of "PCs around the world", "your PC", "your email program" rather than properly reporting i.e. adding the W or M word. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Software submission for the Mandrake distribution
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:26, Austin wrote: > Exactly why we (English speakers) should start using something like Software > Libre and Software Gratis. Others will follow. Everyone copies Mandrake > anyway. :-) > What's wrong with Open Source and Freeware? The Eskimos, so I'm told, have 16 words for snow, because it's important to them. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: resend: Re: [Cooker] OT - can someone pass this on to Andrey?
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 13:10, John Keller wrote: > Good to hear. Dunno what it is, but I've seen a sudden jump in active > blacklisting all over the place. Perhaps the problem is too much hype over spam, with too many half baked schemes to stop it. I've already put forward the idea that if the ISPs checked for an open relay when the client logs on and if one is found notify the client and then block the account the ill configured mailers would get fixed. If the spammers can find open relays why can't the ISPs? Answer, their support desks would have to actually tell the clients how to fix it. If they just use blacklists it's someone else's problem. -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement 193 rue Marcel Cerdan 84270 Vedene 04 90 23 30 81 "Internet Sheriff Technology" revendeur en France <http://www.linuxautrement.com> IAX 17004902330
Re: [Cooker] Updated Bootsplash Design
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 11:28, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Daft question, but isn't this regressing back towards that Aurora abomonation > > that everyone hated circa 8.1/2 ? > > > > Ignore me if this has been hashed before... > > Not really. The problem with Aurora was it was a complicated program > which actually *did* stuff and messed with the boot sequence. We're only > talking about bootsplash images here, and they don't actually change how > the boot sequence goes at all, only how it appears...at least, that's my > understanding. Oh my God, don't remind me of those totally unprofessional days, daft looking penguins amongst the KDE cogs, and some stupid penguin flapping its wings on start up. The big laugh really for me was that there is a French meaning of penguin that is fairly derogatory. I'll leave the native French speakers to explain it. I've even moved the start of the dm service to near the end of the startup sequence, now I can see when things screw up, like the current snmpd problem. Why emulate Windoz, when nothing works you have to go searching. With Linux a user can call out the reports over the phone. That's my 0.02¤ worth. -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement 193 rue Marcel Cerdan 84270 Vedene 04 90 23 30 81 "Internet Sheriff Technology" revendeur en France <http://www.linuxautrement.com> IAX 17004902330
Re: [Cooker] OT - can someone pass this on to Andrey?
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 14:10, John Keller wrote: > If you or anyone else figures out the basics of the form, please let me > know. My ISP's SMTP is also blacklisted (on an on-and-off basis), and it'd > be nice to address it when it happens. Too bad what little Russian I learned > was pushed out of my brain by my French... > Oleane is blacklisted? matchbox.fr resolves to an address from the Oleane block, do you have a fixed IP? If so perhaps you were the open relay :) If not you're another victim of the "a previous user of the IP had an open relay" syndrome. I just realised why providers like Wanadoo/Oleane never check for open relays, if you complain about the problem that others are causing you they'll say they can always sell you a fixed IP at an inflated price. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Pbm with cooker ML
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 11:41, Frederic Soulier wrote: > Hi > > There seems to be a pbm with cooker ML, I'm receiving very few emails > and a couple of emails I sent never showed up... > So just checking. Come on Frederic, it's a national holiday here today, and perhaps everyone else is busy patching Windows systems ready for tomorrow :) -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Evolution 1.4.4-2mdk
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 21:40, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Until it is fixed at package level, just create a http service in > gnome-file-types-properties and assign mozilla to it.. Does that mean I've got to install half of Gnome to get this functionality, if so I'll wait for the package to be sorted out. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] An update since 1600 UTC has removed StarOffice 6.0
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 10:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Dave Cotton wrote: > > > Staroffice 6.0 was operational on this machine during yesterday > > afternoon, today after updating the only thing it does is the splash > > screen, from console the message aborted is displayed. > > > > Is this urpmi --auto-select showing that it is too dangerous to use in > > its present form? > No, it makes clear you run cooker, and things break on cooker. Better find > out what exactly is the problem, or fix it and post solution. > Yes it's fixed, so many changes must have been made that only a complete, memories of MS, reboot had to be done. Just goes to show you can't always maintain the uptime. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Evolution 1.4.4-2mdk
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 20:29, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Do you have gnome-icon-theme installed on your system ? No > > If not, does installing it fixes the problem ? Yes Does that mean it's now a dependency of Evolution or did something else provide the icons before, I seem to remember just the bonobo foot before. Now just get Mozilla to open when I click on a link and we're away. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] An update since 1600 UTC has removed StarOffice 6.0
Staroffice 6.0 was operational on this machine during yesterday afternoon, today after updating the only thing it does is the splash screen, from console the message aborted is displayed. Is this urpmi --auto-select showing that it is too dangerous to use in its present form? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] need for root password (was: dm)
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:41, Leon Brooks wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:29, Buchan Milne wrote: > > You see, instead of making it easy for a user to log in as > > root to do tasks, we must remove the necessity for them to do the > > tasks ... > > Agree. The one task which my wife needs a root password to do is printer > management. If it were possible to avert this OOtB, that would be good. Absolutely, and then make sure that the utility does what it says it can do. I've lost count how many times I've clicked KDE su's keep password and then been asked for the password the next time. If it is not meant to keep the password at a certain security level then the check-box should not be there, be greyed out, whatever. Try "Ignore" to continue with your current privileges and the same dialogue returns. Explain that type of thing to a teacher, trying to work with a class of 30 odd screaming 11/12 year olds, with no time to discuss the niceties of security, because Netscape has screwed up again on two or three terminals. They'll be logged in as root next time, it's a question of priorities and self preservation. I joined a company 20 years ago who had totally solved the diverse permission problems on the Altos unix machines they supplied to customers to run their software. They had a shell script that did chmod 777 on everything, solved the problem, perfectly. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Evolution 1.4.4-2mdk
Strange behaviour, if I add an attachment I get no details in the attachments window, but the attachment is actually sent. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] OT - can someone pass this on to Andrey?
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:26, Adam Williamson wrote: > My mails to Andrey Borzenkov are being bounced with this message: > > This is the Postfix program at host shockwave.systems.pipex.net. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > For further assistance, please send mail to > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > The Postfix program > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mxs.mail.ru[194.67.23.20] said: 503 > Administrative > prohibition -- access from ip address [62.241.160.9] is blocked. > See > http://www.mail.ru/pages/help/262.html for details. (in reply to > DATA > command) I've had this once or twice and found that the problem is a combination of the constant reallocation of IPs by Cable/xDSL operators and blacklists. Someone using the same ISP as you has been found to be, or in some cases just been accused of, running an open relay, which is now on a blacklist. I just did "service adsl restart" got a new IP and resent with no problems. Perhaps in the future a responsible ISP may break the mould by running a check for an open relay immediately after allocating the IP. If the test shows positive, send a message to the account to that effect and disable it, then a large number of badly configured machines would be found by the ISPs and not the spammers. A side benefit to this could be that spam would be reduced dramatically overnight. One can dream. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4425] [xcdroast] New: Xcdroast : core dump
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 01:25, parag shah wrote: > On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:18:33PM +0200, Warly wrote: > > @resolution=invalid > > > > Use cooker version. > > > > -- > > I confirm this bug and i thought the package versions listed are cooker > versions? what version other then those listed do you mean to be used? > Same versions, same results, up to date with redbox.cz as of 5 minutes ago. cdrecord runs OK. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 15:07, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > > IMHO when using NIS/LDAP/Samba auth, all dm should default too "no users > list" I have systems set up using LTSP, in a school there may be well over 200 users, but perhaps only 15 terminals are active at one time. IMHO too many people are thinking just about desktop machines, not multiuser/terminal based machines. Think "Roots" not root. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 20:51, Todd Lyons wrote: > --BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-- > Hash: SHA1 > > Buchan Milne wanted us to know: > > >Well, with mdkkdm you can have either one or the other, but not both. You > >can get to user selections in the icon version by typing, but you can't > >log in as a user not in the list. > > Try setting your security level to 3. It works for me and lets me type > the username I want to login as. And I am using mdkkdm I think. Just to show a non negative approach, I went into MCC and enabled mdkkdm and it was installed, as I had kdm set up _not_ to show icons and to use the last login, I must say mdkkdm picked up this config. So the problem for me, from the last time I updated and allowed mdkkdm, was that it defaulted to showing all the logins, a ridiculous situation on a machine with a large number of users. This machine has standard security level. But, and there is always a but, when the reboot button is used it just gives me a big empty space that appears to be for a list. Kdm allows me to reboot directly with a test kernel.
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 11:53, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 06:31, Duncan wrote: > > > The term "a lot" is two separate words (and isn't considered formally correct > > either, BTW, "altho" colloquial usage is recognized). It means, as you were > > What the hell do you mean, "isn't considered formally correct"? I've > never seen any authority at all that considers "a lot" to be colloquial > or vulgar. It's perfectly standard English. No, he wants to start l'Académie anglaise, and most of us in France know what we want to do with the 40 time wasters in the French version. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] urpmi --auto-select
What is going on? urpmi --auto-select suddenly in the middle of everything there's this installing /mnt/Cooker/libfreetype6-2.1.4-5mdk.i586.rpm removing libgdk-pixbuf2-devel-0.22.0-2mdk.i586 XFree86-static-libs-4.3-13mdk.i586 libfontconfig1-devel-2.2.1-2mdk.i586 lsb-1.3-7mdk.noarch freetype2-devel-2.1.4-4mdk.i586 glibc_lsb-2.3.1-1mdk.i586 libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.2.2-5mdk.i586 libgnome32-devel-1.4.2-7mdk.i586 libkdecore4-devel-3.1.3-2mdk.i586 libpango1.0_0-devel-1.2.3-2mdk.i586 libnas2-devel-1.6-9mdk.i586 libkdenetwork2-devel-3.1.3-2mdk.i586 libimlib1-devel-1.9.14-8mdk.i586 libkdeutils1-devel-3.1.3-1mdk.i586 libarts-devel-1.1.3-1mdk.i586 libkarchiver3-3.0.4-1mdk.i586 libqt3-devel-3.1.2-11mdk.i586 libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0-devel-2.2.2-5mdk.i586 XFree86-devel-4.3-13mdk.i586 libMesaGLU1-devel-5.0.1-5mdk.i586 libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-37mdk.i586 libungif4-devel-4.1.0-23mdk.i586 -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Whatever happened to free choice?
Tried urpmi --auto-select this morning and got:- kdebase-3.1.3-4mdk.i586 (due to missing mdkkdm-9.1-28mdk.i586) kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-4mdk.i586 (due to missing mdkkdm-9.1-28mdk.i586) libkdebase4-nsplugins-3.1.3-4mdk.i586 (due to missing mdkkdm-9.1-28mdk.i586) IMHO this is totally out of order. mdkkdm is an _alternative_ to kdm and some of us do not want to use it, as is our choice. Are users to get into the habit of --allow-nodeps and the lists become full of MDK sucks messages? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] beta1 is out ?
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:41, Warly wrote: > > Warly, > > Any chance of changing installer kernel to the current 5mdk, > > so tat we can have more beta-testers actually able to install ... > > > > (I'm not sure it's your job to change theese, but since you are > > the MDK "CD building Master", I think you know who to talk to...) > > For beta 2. Great, because after it's released in the wild I've got quite a few RAID machines with boards with Promise controllers to install or update. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] URPMI --auto-select --auto removed KDE
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:22, François Pons wrote: > Well, urpmi --bug kderemoved --auto-select --auto will be a little better. When I did urpmi --auto-select, it had actually removed kdebase and kdemultimedia even though I said no. I only became aware of this when I tried to open a console and I actually wanted some noise. rpm -Uvh replaced kdemultimedia without comment. OK that's the command needed. I'll use it next update. Questions:- Should this be used as the default while the problem is being bebugged? Which is the key file in the new directory? Can this example be given more promenance in the manual entry? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] URPMI --auto-select --auto removed KDE
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 07:40, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 03:38, Paul Misner wrote: > > This was really odd. I did a urpmi --auto-select --auto, and the listing that > > follows was the result. I proceeded to urpmi the packages it removed, and > > they all installed fine. My question is, why did urpmi think it needed to > > uninstall KDE, and why did it not ask me for permission to remove those > > packages? Seriously nasty problem, and one that I've not seem before. Is > > there any information I can send you that would help locate the problem? > > Because you used --auto. That's just asking for trouble, on Cooker. > Never use --auto; that way you get asked for confirmation. Just --auto-select on it's own has exactly the same behaviour. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] now MIME-defang xas dnotify startup script
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 18:18, Ben Reser wrote: > Probably because it was my sending server that added the warnings, not > your server. :) So I still have not had a positive hit :( > Correct, that is the intent. The filter for .ini files just happened to > match the .init file. And .sys the sysconfig? I only run all this stuff to test to see if it will help those poor souls who have to use other systems. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] now MIME-defang xas dnotify startup script
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 10:31, Andi Payn wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 00:30, Dave Cotton wrote: > > Does this mean MIME-defang works? > > Apparently. > > But is it possible to configure it to move all that text except the first > sentence to the end of the message? It's a bit annoying to have to scroll > through 40-odd lines of wordy warnings to get to the 10-line message. > > Also, what exactly did MIME-defang do in this case? As a guess, it seems to > have converted text/plain attachments with useful names into > application/octet-stream attachments with meaningless names, apparently > without changing the content at all. Which means that you have to skim the > warnings to figure out which file is which--and, at least for kmail users, > that they open in kwrite instead of in your default text editor (or inline, > or in the built-in text viewer). What is this protecting us from? > > Finally, it's a bit strange to say, "... if you were not expecting a file of > this type..." and never mention what type the file originally was. Couldn't > MIME-defang say, "An attachment named 'foo' of type 'mime/type' was > converted..."? The problem I've had is that I've got Spamassassin in place and I get about 2 spams a day and it traps them. Amavisd-new / sophie / sophos cooked off once in the past two months with a virus attachment. This is the very first time I've ever seen something that triggered MIME-defang, and I agree with you the report is pretty obtuse, add to that that I work in France I can imagine a host of calls for translation. Perhaps the most important thing is that it would have changed a .bat or .pif file to something equally as useless to Windows and may save some unfortunate soul. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] dnotify startup script
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 08:31, Ben Reser wrote: > WARNING: This e-mail has been altered by MIMEDefang. Following this > paragraph are indications of the actual changes made. For more > information about your site's MIMEDefang policy, contact > MIMEDefang Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. For more information about > MIMEDefang, see: > > http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/enduser.php3 > > An attachment named 'dnotify.init' was converted to 'defang-1.binary'. > To recover the file, right-click on the attachment and Save As > 'dnotify.init' > > While MIME-Defang did not detect that this was a known virus it > is still possible that it is a new malicious file. If you were > not expecting a file of this type it is strongly recommended > that you just throw this email away! Just because you know the > person who supposedly sent this to you does not make this a safe > file either. Many viruses use their victims address books to > send themselves to the victims associates. Therefore you may > want to verify that the sender intentionally sent this file for > you! > > > An attachment named 'dnotify.sysconfig' was converted to 'defang-2.binary'. > To recover the file, right-click on the attachment and Save As > 'dnotify.sysconfig' > > While MIME-Defang did not detect that this was a known virus it > is still possible that it is a new malicious file. If you were > not expecting a file of this type it is strongly recommended > that you just throw this email away! Just because you know the > person who supposedly sent this to you does not make this a safe > file either. Many viruses use their victims address books to > send themselves to the victims associates. Therefore you may > want to verify that the sender intentionally sent this file for > you! > > > __ > I wanted to setup dnotify to automatically rebuild my hdlists for my > mirror. But I also wanted to make sure it always started. So I wrote a > small init script for it. Attached is a conf file to put in > /etc/sysconfig/dnotify and an init script to put in > /etc/rc.d/init.d/dnotify. > > Unless you configure dnotify args it will not start dnotify even if you > have it enabled. So it's safe to add to the package and enable by > default. :) Does this mean MIME-defang works? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Re: Compiling kernels with latest gcc follow up
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 18:10, Dave Cotton wrote: > My question was with the compiler as it was at the time of the message, > (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-0.5mdk)) #19 Sun Jul 20 > 08:04:21 CEST 2003, your signature indicates 0.6mdk that was not the > version I was struggling with. Does that version work with the -O2 > optimisation? I'll try latter today. Bad practise answering my own question, but yes 0.6mdk compiles, it did seg fault but restarted when asked, and runs Linux version 2.4.22-pre7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-0.6mdk)) #22 Mon Jul 21 18:22:42 CEST 2003 I hope this helps to track the problem down. I can post anything else required. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Re: Compiling kernels with latest gcc
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 15:02, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Really does any kernel work with 3.3.1? > > yes for me : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]|~| cat /proc/version > Linux version 2.4.21-chmou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-0.6mdk)) #5 Sun Jul 20 23:22:06 CEST > 2003 > > vanilla 2.4.21 with some misc patches Nice to hear from you. It does for me now, thanks to Buchan's suggestion to cut back the optimisation from -O2 to -Os, everything compiles and runs. My question was with the compiler as it was at the time of the message, (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-0.5mdk)) #19 Sun Jul 20 08:04:21 CEST 2003, your signature indicates 0.6mdk that was not the version I was struggling with. Does that version work with the -O2 optimisation? I'll try latter today. -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement 193 rue Marcel Cerdan 84270 Vedene 04 90 23 30 81 "Internet Sheriff Technology" revendeur en France <http://www.linuxautrement.com> IAX 17004902330
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with latest gcc
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 20:21, M. Ignacio Monge García wrote: > Have you tried with kernel 2.6? That seems to have other problems. The new module system etc. > Ah, BTW, there is a kernel 2.4.22pre7 right now :). OK the reason I reused 2.4.22-pre6 is because it had compiled and run before the last series of compiler updates, pre7 is also working for me now. I seem to remember all this type of optimisation thing years ago with 2.0 kernels, at that time the general advice was no optimisation. Perhaps as the compiler stabilised everyone tweaked it a bit and it worked. The cycle may be the same with this version of the compiler? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with latest gcc
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 16:56, Buchan Milne wrote: > http://www.google.com/search?&q=mandrake%20cooker%20gcc-3.3.1%20kernel > -> http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-07/msg01039.php > > Try using -Os instead of -O2. > > > On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 15:04, Han Boetes wrote: > > > Before you post a question about any problem your notice you should > > > check if somebody else hasn't run into the same problem. Thanks for your help Buchan. This message is coming from a 2.4.22-pre6 kernel compiled with -Os, had to search a bit to find where to change it but that's what learning is all about. You just need someone to point you in the right direction, even if they've heard it all before. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Graduated as a teacher 33 years ago.
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with latest gcc
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 15:04, Han Boetes wrote: > Before you post a question about any problem your notice you should > check if somebody else hasn't run into the same problem. A Google Groups search on the messages I got returned nothing. Not many days ago it was said on this list, that if more people had spoken up about the major problem with Promise controllers, 9.1 may not have got out with that problem. Having just tried to install 9.1 on such a machine, I'm not to ready to keep quiet when I hit a show stopper. Dave Cotton
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with latest gcc
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 12:20, M. Ignacio Monge García wrote: > Fails with 2.4.22pre7 too. Whoops behind on my updating of kernels. > This problem is on Cooker GCC 3.3.1 release 1. Kernel 2.6-test1 > doesn't work too. Really does any kernel work with 3.3.1? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Compiling kernels with latest gcc
Trying to compile plain vanilla 2.4.22-pre6 and getting less seg faults etc. during the compile, but on boot get the following:- malloc: subst.c: 3656 assertion botched malloc: block on free list clobbered INIT:PANIC: segmentation violation at 0x4009ee9a! sleeping 30 seconds Everything gcc is 3.3.1-0.5mdk Any gurus? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] So, is someone going to file a bug against...
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 02:18, Austin wrote: > Hey, at least in France it's not illegal to post a sign in English (AFAIK). Actually AFAIK it is, unless there is a translation also. But for 10 years we've traded under the name of "The Avignon Institute of English" and have always looked forward to someone trying to take us to court. The free publicity would be well worth it. -- Dave Cotton Directeur The Avignon Institute of English
Re: [Cooker] Glide project is dead
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 18:03, Joerg Mertin wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2003 16:05, Lea Gris wrote: > > Greg Meyer a écrit : > [...] > > Any project at Mandraksoft about configuring serial port 9600 8n1 as > > default kernel console to let work heavy miantenance on servers without > > any graphic card ? > > Ahhh That would an excellent Idea. I have Lilo and a mgetty running on my > ttys0 port - however i do not see anything of the Boot-Up process ... > > Any chance to get that in ? Or does it already exist somewhere - but I just > didn't find it ? > I haven't got any serial terminals to try it but is this what you want? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] 2.6 kernel
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:22, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > I am thinking a best deal at time is to put it in cooker contrib. > Anyway, this kernel should be packaged soon to begin testing and report bug to > kernel team. > > A very good idea is to package it as it, without any patch. Maybe a silly question, but if it is to test for the kernel team, what possible use could a patched version be? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Bad package in Contribs
Thanks those who have upgraded offending packages, but, using urpmi.update from a local mirror taken from lip6.fr today 09:20CET the following package caused urpmi to baulk. hackxsw-client-1.41.0-1mdk.i586.rpm Could it not just be removed? At least until it's corrected to comply with the new standard. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] bad rpms still in contrib from before 5-28-03
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 05:52, Salane King wrote: > Still these bad rpms are still here in contrib from 5-29-03 Can these be > removed from the server or updated? > > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/crossfire-client-x11-1.0.0-4mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/crossfire-client-gtk-1.0.0-4mdk.i586.rpm' > removed > `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/xview-devel-examples-3.2p1.4-8mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/olwm-3.2p1.4-8mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/xsw-stsounds-1.4-4mdk.noarch.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/libdockapp0-devel-0.4.0-2mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/libY2-devel-2.12.4-7mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/libY2-2.12.4-7mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/sysstat-4.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/libdockapp0-0.4.0-2mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/olvwm-4.4-8mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/swm-1.2.5-2mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/xview-3.2p1.4-8mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/hackxsw-client-1.41.0-1mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/xview-devel-3.2p1.4-8mdk.i586.rpm' > removed `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/xview-clients-3.2p1.4-8mdk.i586.rpm' > removed > `/home/Mandrake/contrib/i586/crossfire-client-sounds-1.0.0-4mdk.i586.rpm' Still there on lip6.fr 08/07/2003 makes 'urpmi.update' -a unusable. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin & Razor
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 14:33, magic wrote: >Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks > into Postfix as a filter. At the moment the config here is: postfix + spamd + amavis-new as daemon + sophie as a daemon. running on an 850 AMD Duron with 256 Mb. It seemed to survive Warly's little spamming exercise ;-) Before, I had amavis-ng running but interestingly every sympa confirm message from cooker fell in the problems directory, now this does not happen. There is another thing I want to try Anomy Sanitizer (http://mailtools.anomy.net) which is supposed to deal with attachments, etc.. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Scotty3
Many thanks Oden. I can now go back to a personal project that fell out of bed when tkined went belly up with the 8.3/8.4 problem. When I looked it seemed to me that the tkined project was dead. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 07:12, Quel Qun wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:49, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > This (enterprise-) kernel doesn't want to boot on my box (Asus NForce2, > > AMD althonXP, 1.5Gb). It panics before init message is shown on the screen. > > > > Anybody else? > > Ordinary kernel. AMD Athlon XP2000 MSI K7T266 Pro2, ext3 file system. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 00:25, John van Spaandonk wrote: > > I can print .pdf files from the > > > command line both using lp and lpr. Then I commented > > Just the same, but how did we end up with lp -d printer_name and lpr -P > > printer_name, I've got two printers attached. To which John wrote: > ? Here I don't understand you, but I'm not a native English speaker :- Don't worry, I don't think even native speakers understood it. What happened was that I thought I had the problem with lp and lpr. I did lp xxx.pdf nothing happened. Then I did 'lpr xxx.pdf' and got a message to say the job was queued for the Epson printer but that was not connected, my son has 'borrowed' it. So now I had to direct the output to the Canon, so I typed 'lp -p canon xxx.pdf', quick error message, OK 'man lp', 'man lpr', lp needs -d printer_name, lpr needs -P printer_name as the argument But I may have stumbled on something, the Epson and Canon are both on the same parallel port, there is a manual switch. So really the Canon should have swallowed a load of Epson codes and printed pages of garbage. Is it the drivers? What is your printer? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:06, John van Spaandonk wrote: > I can print .pdf files from the > command line both using lp and lpr. Just the same, but how did we end up with lp -d printer_name and lpr -P printer_name, I've got two printers attached. > kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0xbfffec14, number of objects = 1 > kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81f50f4, number of objects = 2 > kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4440, number of objects = 3 > kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4478, number of objects = 4 > kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820437c, number of objects = 5 > kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820b848, number of objects = 6 That looks about the same as mine. > Using the print function of kpdf does not work (As described earlier) Xpdf did work, KGhostView works Does anyone know a good paper recycler? -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 17:52, Till Kamppeter wrote: > > or with the printing functions of "gv", "xpdf", or "acroread"? Just did it today. Mozilla -> Acroread -> Kprinter got the output perfectly on a Canon LBP-4! Got a message from kdeprinter? but everything worked after clicking OK. Just tried to print a pdf file from a directory Acroread -> Kprinter Got the same long message box clicked OK, just saw another window flash on/off which said cancelled and then nothing. Hope this helps. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: full duplex sound drivers
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 16:44, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > I do not care whether the sound drivers are ALS or not, as long as they > are full duplex and can work with eg gnomemeeting. > Seconded > I see IP telepones/teleconferencing as a major application for most > users, this is probably the new telephone, and it would be very > convenient if MDK had good support for IP telephones. And again. I've got VPNs working, now I need a convincing IP phone. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Gimp + contribs
Latest Gimp 1.2.5-1mdk has a contribs dependency perl-File-Slurp. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] urpmi-4.4-6mdk: can't add file:// urpmi media
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 15:03, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > I hope this hasn't been reported before, otherwise, please ignore. > > With urpmi-4.4-6mdk I can't seem to add a file:// urpmi media. It asks > about a hdlist file. urpmi-4.4-4mdk still worked fine. > I've got the same type of problem # urpmi.addmedia Contribs file://home/ftp/pub/Contribs added medium Contribs examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Sheriff.cz] no hdlist file found for medium "Contribs" examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contribs.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium "Contribs" unable to update medium "Contribs" -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Everything not back up yet?
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 20:01, Levi Ramsey wrote: > mandrake.redbox.cz missed a day, but I'm updating from there at the > moment... try again? lip6.fr is just deluging me with a mass of files at the moment. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Evolution locks hard when a hyperlink is clicked
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 20:32, Jason Komar wrote: > When I click a hyperlink in the Evolution summary screen or in a mail > message, Evolution locks up hard. I have to kill the processes to > terminate it. I have reproduced this problem on 2 separate Cooker > machines, both fully up to date. > I've also got this, with a fully up to date machine, it started just before the Evolution 1.4 update, I'd hoped that it was just a case of something changing out of order and when 1.4 arrived it would disappear. I've been working round it by copying the link into the browser. -- Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] ppp is not ipv6 enabled
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 23:40, Jason Straight wrote: > On Sunday 15 June 2003 12:12, Dave Cotton wrote: > > I use the Bewan ADSl PCI card and need pppoatm.so, it is also not in ppp > > as standard, it is in the PLF version but that pppd is not persistant, > > so that when the ISP drops the line no attempt is made to reconnect. Is > > there a reason I don't know about as to why pppoatm is not in the > > Cooker/9.1 pppd? > > Can you just edit the pppd config and tell it persistant? That is an option of > pppd in the config. The version recommended to use with Mandrake as indicated on the Bewan site is a patched 2.4.0, this works, the PLF version (2.4.1) with the same config files does not. There have been some pretty heated discussions about this in the French groups. But the long and the short of it is if you want a connection to stay up you have to use the patched version, and make sure urpmi --auto-select does not update it for you. I have been trying to get the drivers working in both Cooker with 2.4.21-1mdk and 9.0 with the 2.4.21 stock kernel and get the following errors. gcc -DVERS=0 -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-gnu-linker -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DLINUX -D_ATM_DRIVER -DDEBUG=1 -I/usr/src/linux/include -I../include/ -I../ -c -o unicorn_atmdrv.o unicorn_atmdrv.c unicorn_atmdrv.c: In function `rcv_aal0': unicorn_atmdrv.c:570: error: structure has no member named `rx_inuse' unicorn_atmdrv.c: In function `rcv_aal5': unicorn_atmdrv.c:674: error: structure has no member named `rx_inuse' make: *** [unicorn_atmdrv.o] Error 1 It compiles and runs with a stock 2.4.20 on 9.0. -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement 193 rue Marcel Cerdan 84270 Vedene 04 90 23 30 81 <http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=France&address=193%20rue%20Marcel%20Cerdan%20&city=Vedene&state=&zipcode=84270>
Re: [Cooker] ppp is not ipv6 enabled
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 18:28, Teemu Torma wrote: > ?? As far as I know, pppoatm.so is in 9.1 ppp. According to changelog, > added in Februrary this year. Sorry, you're right. I'm using 9.0/9.1/Cooker and fighting 40°C in here at the moment. It's 9.0 that has the problem with ppp, and I was having problems getting the Unicorn drivers to compile on 9.1 so I was stuck using 9.0 on the Shuttle that runs the connection to ADSL. -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement 193 rue Marcel Cerdan 84270 Vedene 04 90 23 30 81 <http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=France&address=193%20rue%20Marcel%20Cerdan%20&city=Vedene&state=&zipcode=84270>
Re: [Cooker] ppp is not ipv6 enabled
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 17:16, Teemu Torma wrote: > I noticed that ppp is not compiled with ipv6 in 9.1 nor cooker. Just > enabling it in pppd/Makefile.linux compiles just fine and seems to work > as well (I am using adsl via nerim.net). > > Any particular reason not to enable it by default? I use the Bewan ADSl PCI card and need pppoatm.so, it is also not in ppp as standard, it is in the PLF version but that pppd is not persistant, so that when the ISP drops the line no attempt is made to reconnect. Is there a reason I don't know about as to why pppoatm is not in the Cooker/9.1 pppd? -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] php-mhash-4.3.2-2mdk
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:58, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 17:26, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > > > should'nt neither, unless there's any special reason for this..? > > The apostrophe goes between the n and t, so "shouldn't". Sorry to be > picky, but I keep seeing this and it's bugging me :). And two negatives together? As Victor Borger(?) another non native English speaker said to a woman who criticised his use of English "Madam, it's your language I'm just trying to use it." :-) -- Dave Cotton Directeur Linux Autrement 193 rue Marcel Cerdan 84270 Vedene 04 90 23 30 81 <http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=France&address=193%20rue%20Marcel%20Cerdan%20&city=Vedene&state=&zipcode=84270>
Re: [Cooker] i386? Plans for a non-pentium optimized?
Ian White wrote: > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Seth Cohn wrote: > > > Any plans for a 386 (or better) version of Mandrake? > > That and having some sort of very minimal install are the two features I'd > really like. Would be handy for doing firewalls on low-end boxes. > > Ian White I ran a 'this is Linux day' at the end of March and what impressed everyone was that a 486 was acting as a firewall for our internet connection it was also acting as print server and someone was using KDE and Netscape to browse the internet. In the corner was a 386/25 with 8meg and a 40meg drive running an Apache server. This is perhaps IMHO one of the most important ways we can get Linux into small businesses. All the scare stories about the internet caused by the total lack of security in W**, solved using the machine they were going to throw away because it couldn't run bloated W** software and no one wanted it at home because the kids can't play the latest games. By the way I live in France so I want to install Mandrake. Dave Cotton Linux Autrement
