Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] proftpd-1.2.8-1mdk

[Gary Greene]

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On Wednesday 02 April 2003 4:47 pm, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> onsdagen den 2 april 2003 21.52 skrev Per Øyvind Karlsen:
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> > On Wednesday 02 April 2003 21:34, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > > onsdagen den 2 april 2003 14.31 skrev Per Øyvind Karlsen:
> > >
> > > Is it possible to enable mysql auth support for this one?
> > >
> > > I once saw a cool web gui in php that could be an alternative...
> >
> > there's also a few other interesting modules out there:
> > http://www.proftpd.org/module_news.html
> > maybe we could provide own rpms for these, something like ADVX or
> > something in the future..?
> > that would be damn cool:)
>
> Yep, it would be damn cool! And give a lot of power to the people. Any
> takers?
>
> BTW. Does anyone use the gproftpd package I packed a while back?
> (oops, it just segfaulted, gotta fix it...;))

I do. It made configuring proftpd a breeze. :) Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] rebuild an initrd under rescue cdrom

[Gary Greene]

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On Tuesday 01 April 2003 5:40 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Pascal Cavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > After migration from MDK 7.2 to MDK 9.1, the installer left a new system
> > without an initrd for 2.4.21-0.13mdk, thus I cannot boot it anymore.
>
> /root/drakx/report.bug.gz would help.
>
> > I was wondering if it is possible to rebuild my initrd from the 9.1
> > rescue CD.
>
> Theoretically, it should be feasible (and easy).

I've done this SEVERAL times over the last year when the mkinitrd utility was 
somewhat cracked for XFS module support.

> > I tried the following but to no avail (maybe because of using the freshly
> > installed system by means of a chroot on /mnt) :
> >
> > boot rescue cd1
> > mount all FS on /mnt
> > go to console
> > chroot /mnt
> >
> > First I was to mount /proc  because mkinitrd _does not check_ that /proc
> > is available and thus we end in a loop at the step it scans for
> > /proc/mounts FS.
>
> I don't consider that to be a bug. Many (all?) of our system
> tools rely very much on /proc being available. I'm not even sure
> the system will boot without a /proc filesystem mounted.

Oh, it WILL boot, but not kindly...

Can I suggest that all Mandrake apps (since this test would be almost trivial) 
with the need to access /proc at least please have a check and warning 
message included so the n00b that gets his new linux system almost running 
and the theoretical chance that the mkinitrd util is as broken as it was then 
won't be pulling their hair out in frustration?

> > mount /proc
> >
> > mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img 2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
>
> "-v" often helps debugging.

thanks for that info...

> > which leads to an error like :
> > + dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/initrd.img.LiQwlh bs=1k count=420
> > + '[' -n '' ']'
> > + mke2fs -q -m 0 -F -N 45 -s 1 /tmp/initrd.img.LiQwlh
> > mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
> > mke2fs: Device size reported to be zero.  Invalid partition specified, or
> > partition table wasn't reread after running fdisk, due to
> > a modified partition being busy and in use.  You may need to
> > reboot to re-read your partition table.
>
> No idea why it's saying that. Maybe strace would help.
>
> It works for me (cooker nfs rescue).

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Re: [Cooker] cursor themes package

[Gary Greene]

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On Monday 31 March 2003 12:18 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Gary Greene wrote:
> > On Sunday 30 March 2003 5:17 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> >
> > Don't fret for too long about that. KDE 3.2 will have a much improved
> > theme/style/tweak manager in it. Myself and a few others in the KDE
> > development team, including Mosfet (who looks to be heading this
> > mini-project) have been discussing this very thing on kde-devel. This
>
> theme
>
> > manager would handle cursors, ksplash/ml themes, fully themed kdm
>
> screens and
>
> > UI elements such as styles, etc. If there are features that people
>
> would like
>
> > to see in this, post them my way.
>
> Sounds good, but only if you add sound to your list ;-)

Thanks I'll keep that in mind when we have our IRC conference soon. :) 
Additionally, if any of you want any features/themes incorperated into 
kdm_greeter, I'm the direct contact for that, since themeble kdm_greeter is 
my job in this project.

> And that is why I won't spend time on previewing the cursor themes at
> this stage. Just run the tool mutliple times, and look at the cursor
> inside it or start up something where you can test a few (konqueror in
> file management mode is ok for this ...)
>
> Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] cursor themes package

[Gary Greene]

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On Sunday 30 March 2003 5:17 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2003, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > Maybe you could steal the sample shots from kde-look.org
> > >
> > > The shots themselves are the easy part 
> >
> > Buchan,
> >
> >Being from the school of simple ideas for simple minds (mine) Why not
> > just do a small series of html pages with shots of each "set" of
> > cursors.  Then a script that calls $BROWSER name of 1st page.
>
> I will consider it, but I have more important things to do IMHO, and I
> believe both KDE and Gnome should have UIs for this (to go with the
> themes). Under Windows9x, mouse cursors were parts of themes.
>
> And I think that the state of some KDE themes leaves things to be desired,
> since some themes do not set the Window decorations, icons or backgrounds.
>
> Maybe Mandrakesoft needs to take some initiative here and make Galaxy a
> complete theme under both KDE and GNOME, including backgrounds, cursor
> themes, sounds, etc, instead of just being a set of consistent widget sets
> and window decorations. Galaxy is very good, but it still isn't a theme
> IMHO. As evidenced by the fact that when I enable a different theme, and
> then try to restore Galaxy, I have to run 4 different KDE Control Center
> modules. The GNOME state is slightly better.

Don't fret for too long about that. KDE 3.2 will have a much improved 
theme/style/tweak manager in it. Myself and a few others in the KDE 
development team, including Mosfet (who looks to be heading this 
mini-project) have been discussing this very thing on kde-devel. This theme 
manager would handle cursors, ksplash/ml themes, fully themed kdm screens and 
UI elements such as styles, etc. If there are features that people would like 
to see in this, post them my way.

> Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 375] [kdebase] With autologin enabled Reboot and Shutdown missing from logout

[Gary Greene]

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On Monday 31 March 2003 7:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> when using autologin, kdm is not runed, so kdesktp cannt use those
> functions. 2 work arrounds:
>
> 1) make autologin from kdm
> 2) make shortcuts in the desktop to shit down/reboot/logout.
>
> any more ideas?
>
> - diego

This is something taht really should be posted as a bug on bugs.kde.org since 
this is also applicable when you do a startx KDE session as well.


> Quoting torontodss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=375
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-31
> > 06:24 ---
> > Before loggin out, run lilo as root and then options appear when user
> > logs out.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- You are receiving this mail because: ---
> > You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Reminder: ---
> > assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > status: NEW
> > creation_date:
> > description:
> > With Autologin enabled, when I exit KDE I am only presented with an
> > option to
> > Logout. I have to log out before I can shut down the machine.
> >
> > It autologin is disabled, the Shutdown and Reboot options re-appear when
> > I press
> > the Exit button (bottom right of screen).
> >
> > I would really like to be able to shutdown the machine directly from
> > KDE.
> >
> > Security level is at "High".

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Re: [Cooker] where is the kde-libs documentation stored?

[Gary Greene]

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On Sunday 23 March 2003 2:24 am, Quel Qun wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 23:12, Gary Greene wrote:
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> > subject asks it all...
>
> I don't think it's anywhere, there's a defect entered about that.
> You need to regenerate them from the kdelibs sources.
> And don't forget to complain loudly.

That sucks. SuSE has it set up the right way where the docs are pregened for 
you. IS this entered as a bug on Mandrake's Bugzilla? Or, rather, should I 
contact the KDE project about this?

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[Cooker] where is the kde-libs documentation stored?

[Gary Greene]

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subject asks it all...

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Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

[Gary Greene]

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On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:47 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:12 am, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:08:23 -0500, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:44 am, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > >> > It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between
> > >> > 12mdk and 13mdk that forces the use of AA fonts, which will fail if
> > >> > the Render extension is not present.  There's a link in a previous
> > >> > message that points to a version of libqt3 without that patch and it
> > >> > works fine.
> > >>
> > >> Render is NOT needed for doing AA with Xft2.. This was only needed
> > >> when using Xft1..
> > >
> > > Then why do QT apps crash when AA is compiled in?  Can't find render
> > > and crash.  Again, is this a bug in QT3 and should it be reported
> > > upstream?
> >
> > I have NO idea.. I'm not QT nor KDE packager/developer, in case you
> > didn't notice..
>
> I know, and I don't mean to be rude.  I am willing to report this upstream,
> I just would like someone from MandrakeSoft to let me know if this is
> desireable, or if it is better handled through "official" channels since it
> affects the just finished release.

I'd say that if it's a Qt/KDE problem, then yes, PLEASE report this to the 
appropriate places. MandrakeSoft cannot and should not be viewed as the only 
outlet for the various projects. If this is a general problem with KDE/Qt, 
then other distros and LFS will be running into the same problem. Thus it 
really should be reported.

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Re: [Cooker] Post 9.1 - GATOS

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On Tuesday 18 March 2003 5:17 pm, Spencer wrote:
> Hi all,
> With the generous help of Austin, I was able to get rough forms of avview
> and ati.2 into contribs. Both of these packages need a lot of work to get
> them to behave smoothly. In the case of avview, as soon as cooker gets a
> tcl/tk update, I will package a much newer version and with ffmpeg support.
> I'm working towards as much video capturing as is available from the GATOS
> project. Future ati.2 packages will have DRI support for Rage 128 and
> Radeon cards IF they are working according to gatos-devel. The km package,
> the drm-kernel package and the ati-remote package will all be available
> also. For any one wanting more information, check out;
>
> http://gatos.sourceforge.net/
>
> My question, how much interest is there in the gatos project and would RPMs
> help more people.
>
> Spence

Much interest here. As a matter of fact a few (not so bright at times) 
individuals that I know switched to slackware because of this. I personally 
would love some RPMs that did this.

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Re: [Cooker] Bad packages in latest cooker !!!

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On Saturday 15 March 2003 2:47 pm, Randy Welch wrote:
> Mircea Ciocan wrote:
> > VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030314 21:05
> >
> > Network install via http, this one are reported bad and because of zlib
> > system is unusable (no modules can be installed):
>
> Your mirror probably doesn't have the latest copy of hdlist.  I had the
> same problem until this morning ( 10am US PST ) when the mirror I use
> finally had it updated.
>
> -randy

for me I just updated my hdlists by hand.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# genhdlist ./; mv -f hdlist.cz ../base/

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Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700

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On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:31 pm, Henri wrote:
> Gary Greene a écrit:
> > On Tuesday 11 March 2003 3:07 am, Henri wrote:
> >
> > Thanks !
> > Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel without
> > apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ?
> > (Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be stupid...)
> >
> >
> > This is how SuSE gets around this problem.
>
> Am i supposed to switch my notebook to another distrib "just" for that ?
> It is quit important for a notebook and i think that this mandrake
> version was supposed to be a easier one for notebook : zeroconf,
> switchprofiles...and apci is one of the main new features, so can't
> there be a special kernel for the buggy bios ? PLEEEAASE !!

I believe I'd have to second that since I have a Presario 700E notebook that 
has exactly this problem. Before now I've been having to use SuSE on it, but 
if I can use Mandrake with out difficulties, I'd prefer that.

> About compiling a kernel, getting the kernel-source rpm, editing the
> config file and using rpm --rebuild should be ok, shouldn't it ?
> While talking about the kernel, isn't there anymore the kernel-header
> package ?? That means we have to download all sources just to compil an
> new driver (NVIDIA for ex) ???
>
> > And isn't it possible to use  "noapic apci=on" on boot instead of
> > recompiling ?
> >
> > Sascha Noyes a écrit:
> > >On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote:
> > >
> > >on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work.
> > >i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT
> > >installed by default.
> > >I went to control center->lilo config and then it installed it BUT
> > >TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT !
> > >using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI
> > >detection
> > >
> > >
> > >Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message:
> > >
> > >This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power
> > >Management
> > >(which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM). This
> > >causes
> > >the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is possible
> > > to boot the default kernel with the switch "acpi=off" added at boot
> > > time, but
> > >then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100% all the
> > >time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel without
> > >APIC
> > >(yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is
> > >necessary for power management) to get power management features.
> > >
> > >See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything working:
> > >http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html

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Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700

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On Tuesday 11 March 2003 3:07 am, Henri wrote:
> Thanks !
> Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel without
> apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ?
> (Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be stupid...)

This is how SuSE gets around this problem.

> And isn't it possible to use  "noapic apci=on" on boot instead of
> recompiling ?
>
> Sascha Noyes a écrit:
> > On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote:
> >
> > on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work.
> > i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT
> > installed by default.
> > I went to control center->lilo config and then it installed it BUT
> > TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT !
> > using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI
> > detection
> >
> >
> > Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message:
> >
> > This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power
> > Management
> > (which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM). This
> > causes
> > the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is possible to
> > boot the default kernel with the switch "acpi=off" added at boot time,
> > but
> > then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100% all the
> > time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel without
> > APIC
> > (yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is
> > necessary for power management) to get power management features.
> >
> > See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything working:
> > http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html

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Re: [Cooker] dup-invalid bugs

[Gary Greene]

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On Monday 10 March 2003 2:45 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Gary Greene wrote:
> > On Monday 10 March 2003 1:41 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> >
> > I've pesonally been verifying that as newer versions of the packages
>
> came out
>
> > if the bugs ver made invalid or not. Please don't undermine the work
>
> that I
>
> > am doing before you consult with me as the bug filer! This kind of action
> > makes the entire bugzilla system useless if you are going to do such
>
> with out
>
> > even trying to contact and verify these things with the bug filer.
>
> It helps though to not file duplicates ... you did file at least two of
> that one AFAICS, so I have marked them as dupes ... but nothing else.
>
> Buchan

Thanks Buchan. I apologize for the tone of my post. I really should have 
followed my personal mantra about email: step away, reflect, then post. It 
however, felt like I was not getting any kind of confirmation that this bug 
is a real issue though. When another Cooker posted that the reports were 
invalid, it infuriated me since the bug is most definitely there. (with the 
most recent system.)

The most recent aspect of the 1160/3126 bug reports (which are slowing up 
determining the other problems) are that the module versions are wrong. I 
realize that there is very little chance that the DRI module could be THAT 
old however. Thus I think that the test for the module may be erroneous. Once 
that is fixed and I'll be able to load the DRI module again, I will continue 
to work on the DRM logout issue until the culprit is found and fixed.

I am trying very hard to test this issue thoroughly. I've been talking to the 
XFree86 project development members that are responsible for the radeon 
driver and the only things I'm getting from them is that the bug doesn't 
occur for them. However, the one who responded there isn't even running an 
ix86 machine to test on. :(

As near as I can tell, and please bear with me since I'm not a kernel hacker, 
the DRI module is to blame. I theorize that when the window manager tries to 
SIGHUP the running server, something in the code causes a race that bombs the 
kernel's IO subsystem, thus the reason that we aren't getting any opps or 
core information. I know that this problem DIDN'T occur under XFree86 4.2.1 
at any time with the 7500 R100 Radeons, however. The only time this occurs is 
when the DRI module is loaded and active.

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Re: [Cooker] dup-invalid bugs

[Gary Greene]

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On Monday 10 March 2003 1:41 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> bugs #1160, 1307, 1026, 3099, and 3126 and all submitted by the same
> individual and and all variations on the same.
> Dri and radeon.
> These are not valid bugs in that he is running current XFree but an
> older kernel which provides an old drm mod.
>
> Could someone change the status on the above to closed/invalid.
>
> Also bug #3035 xfce is invalid and its status should also be changed to
> closed/invalid
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Charles

1160 and 3126 are not invalid! I'm using the newest kernel and XFree86.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] greeneg]$ uname -a
Linux uriel 2.4.21-0.13mdk #1 Fri Mar 7 06:31:12 CET 2003 i686 unknown unknown 
GNU/Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] greeneg]$ rpm -qa | egrep XFree86
XFree86-Xnest-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-static-libs-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-compat-libs-4.1.0-2mdk
XFree86-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-xfs-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-server-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-devel-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-doc-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-libs-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.3-2mdk
XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.3-2mdk

I've pesonally been verifying that as newer versions of the packages came out 
if the bugs ver made invalid or not. Please don't undermine the work that I 
am doing before you consult with me as the bug filer! This kind of action 
makes the entire bugzilla system useless if you are going to do such with out 
even trying to contact and verify these things with the bug filer.

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[Cooker] JDM has changed (IMNSHO) for the worst...

[Gary Greene]

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Can some one tell me why it was deemed that the kdm login dialog needed to 
change to a add-on that isn't in the stock KDE distribution? It looks kinda 
clumsy from a UI design standpoint. That, and I personally LIKED the stock 
3.1 login UI.

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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 728] [XFree86-server] Radeon QD (7200) display corruption

[Gary Greene]

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On Tuesday 21 January 2003 11:32 pm, [Bug 728] wrote:
> https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-01-22
> 05:32 --- This bug is most definately still valid.  I and several
> others have posted about it on the XFree86 mailing list.  This should be
> considered a show-stopper for Radeon QD/7200 users!
>
>
>
> --- You are receiving this mail because: ---
> You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
>
>
>
> --- Reminder: ---
> assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> description:
> This release does not work properly with my Radeon "QD" (I think it's a
> 7200). It works fine on my Matrox Millenium II (I have dual head here), but
> on the Radeon, it seems to draw this almost "checkerboard" pattern over the
> screen.
>
> A photograph of the screen can be found here:
> http://brian.interlinx.bc.ca/xfree_radeon.jpg
>
> and the run-log can be found at:
> http://brian.interlinx.bc.ca/XFree86.0.log
>
> and the config file is at:
> http://brian.interlinx.bc.ca/XF86Config-4
>
> I could no seem to find anything on the xpert list about this or elsewhere.
>
> b.

I can confirm this with a ATI All In Wonder Radeon 7500 as well...

When I start the X server, the system loses keyboard response so that even the 
magic SysRq keys don't work.

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[Cooker] Missing files on ftp.club-internet.fr

[Gary Greene]

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I reinstalled my laptop with cooker using Guillaume Rousse's suggestion of 
doing a net install. I tried using ftp.club-internet.fr as my mirror, since 
I've found it to have some of the best speeds as far as download time is 
concerned, unfortunately near the end of the install I recieved errors about 
files not being present. These were:

kernel-2.4.20.0.5mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
kernel-doc-2.4.20-0.5mdk.i586.rpm
kernel-doc-html-2.4.20-0.5mdk.i586.rpm
kernel-doc-pdf-2.4.20-0.5mdk.i586.rpm
kernel-doc-ps-2.4.20-0.5mdk.i586.rpm
kernel-sources-2.4.20-0.5mdk.i586.rpm

I did a little bit of investigating and found that, indeed they are missing 
from that mirror. Could some kind soul at MandrakeSoft alert the mirror's 
administrator to let them know that they're missing a few files. Thanks.

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[Cooker] Cooker CDs...

[Gary Greene]

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have there been any CD-ROM images of current cooker posted to any of the 
servers? Reason I'm asking is that I don't have a local repository and I need 
to do a reinstall on my Presario 700 notebook. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Cooker] Pacakges to move to contrib

[Gary Greene]

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On Tuesday 26 November 2002 12:04 pm, Warly wrote:
> I would like to move packages to from main to contrib, or to
> remove then. If you have any suggestion of likely unneeded packages
> in main, please mail.

Good idea...

> To begin are you against moving:
>
> awesfx: Utility programs for the AWE32 sound driver

Bad idea. I (and many other people I know) still have and use a ISA AWE 64 for 
sound under Linux.

> bcast-2000c: old version, new one not gpl
>
> blt: A Tk toolkit extension, including widgets, geometry managers, etc.
>
> cdlabelgen: Program for generating frontcards and traycards for CDs.
>
> chbg: ChBg - Desktop background manager/changer/screensaver

Needed for deps in XFCE

> cim: Simula to C translator. Mother of all OO-languages.

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Re: [Cooker] font stuff

[Gary Greene]

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On Friday 22 November 2002 07:18 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 05:44, Gary Greene wrote:
> > > Didn't work for me, uninstalled AbiWord and fonts are still
> > > 'stretched'
> >
> > I can second this. Only about 4 or 5 fonts are rendering at this point on
> > my system. (This is sad for me since I do a LOT of website design, thus
> > making the MS fonts REALLY important.)
>
> Well forgive me for asking, but if you do such critical stuff on this
> machine, why on Earth are you running Cooker on it? This is the distro
> where stuff like this is MEANT to happen. If you wanna be sure your
> fonts are going to be there from day to day, install 9.0...at least as a
> dual boot...:)

Actually, one has a quint-boot system: Windows XP Corporate, Lycoris
Desktop/LX, Mandrake 9.1 Cooker, and Sentinel Linux developement release.

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Re: [Cooker] font stuff

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On Thursday 21 November 2002 06:46 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote:
> On November 21, 2002 16:56 pm, David Walser wrote:
> > --- David Sansome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 21 November 2002 9:56 pm, David Walser
> > > wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > I did, to no avail.  It's not my system, it's the
> > > > software.  Happened after the Wednesday morning
> > >
> > > Cooker
> > >
> > > > update (last previous update was midday Sunday).
> > >
> > > I agree, it started happening to me when I upgraded
> > > the qt3 package.
> >
> > Very strange.  I have uninstalled AbiWord and things
> > are back how they were.  Deja Vu (Mandrake 8.0)
>
> Didn't work for me, uninstalled AbiWord and fonts are still
> 'stretched'

I can second this. Only about 4 or 5 fonts are rendering at this point on my
system. (This is sad for me since I do a LOT of website design, thus making
the MS fonts REALLY important.)

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Re: [Cooker] Fonts destroyed

[Gary Greene]

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On Thursday 21 November 2002 01:56 pm, David Walser wrote:
> Already reported, although I don't remember seeing
> reports of it making fonts smaller in lots of places,
> and destroying fonts in Konqueror completely.
> Hopefully this will be fixed soon, but in the meantime
> people seem to be blaming freetype (I thought that was
> only for TT fonts, does Mandrake use those by default
> now?), either way, does somebody still have the
> packages that still work?

Good question, since I've got around 700 TTF installed and I can't use them 
ATM.

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Re: [Cooker] mkinitrd fails with kernel 2.4.19-19mdk...

[Gary Greene]

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On Monday 11 November 2002 12:34 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Subject says it all. The error I got was:
> >
> > [root@seele root]# mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.19-19mdk.img 2.4.19-19mdk
> > mke2fs 1.30 (31-Oct-2002)
> > ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
> > Can't get a loopback device
> >
> > I've got the loop.o.gz module loaded, so I don't know what else to do.
> > Here's
>
> What does it give to you when trying to manipulate any loop
> device with losetup?

It doesn't report anything at all. I ran the following command:

[root@seele /root]# losetup /dev/loop/0 autosetup.img 

no message at all.

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Re: [Cooker] File Manager - Super User Mode

[Gary Greene]

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On Saturday 09 November 2002 03:28 pm, Peter Polman wrote:
> Neither my work box or my home box have a functional Super User Konqueror.
> It's been close to two months since I installed Cooker on each one of them
> and neither has ever worked as they should (kdesu konqueror-wise that is).
> The work box was a RC2 install and the home PC was an FTP install just
> before 9.0. Both are current cooker i586. Is anyone experiencing the same
> problems? I've been through both KDE archives and cooker archives. Though
> I've seen other users mention this problem I've not seen a reply or fix.
> Somewhere there has to be an incorrect config file. Not being a programmer
> or an expert I'm having near zero luck finding where the problem lies.
> Here's what I think looks to be the pertinent info immediately after the
> Konqueror browser temporarily appears on the screen and shuts down after
> attempting a "kdesu konqueror"
>
> <>
> kio_file: = COMPLETED LIST 
> kio_file: === BYE ===
> kdecore (KProcIO): KPIO::readln
> kio: KFileShare::readConfig: s_authorization = UserNotAllowed
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::slotNewItems dir=file:/root
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir file:/root/tmp
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir file:/root/drakx
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir file:/root/Real
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir file:/root/Desktop
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir file:/root/obj
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir file:/root/data
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir file:/root/nsmail
> konqtree: 0x822cfb8 KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir
> file:/root/RealPlayer9 kio (KDirListerCache): [void
> KDirListerCache::slotResult(KIO::Job*)] finished listing file:/root
> konqtree: KonqSidebarDirTree::slotListingStopped file:/root
> konqtree: m_selectAfterOpening
> mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
> /tmp/mcop-peter is not owned by user
> kio (KDirListerCache): -KDirListerCache
> kio (KDirWatch): Cancelled FAM (Req 1) for /root
> kio (KDirWatch): Removed Dir /root [KDirWatch-1]
> kio (KDirWatch): Cancelled FAM (Req 2) for /etc/security/fileshare.conf
> kio (KDirWatch): Removed File /etc/security/fileshare.conf [KDirWatch-2]
> kio (KDirWatch): KDirWatch deleted (FAM closed)
> DCOP: unregister 'konqueror-2239'
> [root@arthur peter]#
> [root@arthur peter]# DCOPServer : slotTerminate() -> sending terminateKDE
> signal.
> klauncher: KLauncher::process ---> terminateKDE
> kdeinit: terminate KDE.
> kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed
> kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children.
> kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
> kdeinit: Exit.

Reproducable here too.

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Re: [Cooker] [not urgent] - controls centers reflexion

[Gary Greene]

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On Saturday 09 November 2002 02:40 pm, Florent BERANGER wrote:
> KDE control center have more and more fonctionnalities each days (X
> configuration with kxconfig, lilo configuration, camera configuration,
> keyboard layout, power control, hardware infos, network config,...).
>
> A day, we'll have 2 control "centers" in KDE environment, not 100%
> interoperables/compatibles (they will not configure thinks as same).
> kxconfig doesn't configure display as drakXres for exemple.
> It's a little bad for usability to have 2 controls center (confusions,...)
>
> What can be do (now or in future) :
>
> - lets things as this, it works mostly, it's not top for usability but it's
> not bad / 2 or more control centers, that's greet, the user will choose
> he's prefered one in his prefered environment.
>
> - delete tools as kxconfig in KDEcontrolcenter-> KDE control center
> configure only KDE things. MCC control center will configure all others
> things.
>
> - modify tools for entire compatibility/interoperability (if they don't)->
> good luck ;).
>
> - replace tools as kxconfig, lilo config in kde control center by Mdk's one
> -> Mdk's tools integration in KDE control center. MCC'll be keept (if user
> is in another environment or if he want to use it because he prefer it)->
> the configuration center icon in launch bar launch KDE control center in
> kde (kdecontrol center will be the default control center in kde), MCC in
> another desktop environment. It's my prefered issue (I like MCC but it
> could be better for usability-> all configuration in the same control
> center in KDE, the top for usability and it's always the same tools who are
> used in each environments (Mdk's ones)).
>
> Thanks to have read all ;)
>
>   Florent

The second you start ripping things out of the KDE Control Center, just 
because the tools are identical to yours is the day I pack up and leave MDK 
behind. This is exactly what Red Hat did and it didn't win them many friends 
by doing so. I like the fact that KDE has as much power and configurability 
as it does now. If you want only one control center, just embed your tools 
into the KDE Control Center (+the seperate one for GNOME users.)

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[Cooker] mkinitrd fails with kernel 2.4.19-19mdk...

[Gary Greene]

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Subject says it all. The error I got was:

[root@seele root]# mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.19-19mdk.img 2.4.19-19mdk
mke2fs 1.30 (31-Oct-2002)
ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
Can't get a loopback device

I've got the loop.o.gz module loaded, so I don't know what else to do. Here's 
my current config:
kernel: 2.4.19-16mdk
mkinitrd: 3.1.6-33mdk

[root@seele proc]# cat modules
loop   11376   0 (autoclean)
nfsd   66576   8 (autoclean)
lockd  46480   1 (autoclean) [nfsd]
sunrpc 60188   1 (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
ipx17124  11 (autoclean)
isofs  25652   1 (autoclean)
inflate_fs 17892   0 (autoclean) [isofs]
floppy 49340   0 (autoclean)
binfmt_misc 5696   1
appletalk  21668  12 (autoclean)
lp  6720   1
parport_pc 21672   1
parport23936   1 [lp parport_pc]
r128   75352  15
agpgart31840   3 (autoclean)
af_packet  13000   1 (autoclean)
sr_mod 15096   2 (autoclean)
eepro100   19096   1 (autoclean)
ntfs   72908   1 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1   2844   3 (autoclean)
nls_cp437   4348   1 (autoclean)
vfat9588   1 (autoclean)
fat31864   0 (autoclean) [vfat]
ext3   73736   3 (autoclean)
jbd38608   3 (autoclean) [ext3]
ide-cd 28712   0
cdrom  26848   0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
ide-scsi8212   1
scsi_mod   90372   2 [sr_mod ide-scsi]
sb  7668   1
sb_lib 34958   0 [sb]
uart401 6628   0 [sb_lib]
sound  55732   1 [sb_lib uart401]
soundcore   3780   0 [sb_lib sound]
usb-uhci   21676   0 (unused)
usbcore58304   1 [usb-uhci]
rtc 6560   0 (autoclean)
reiserfs  169776   3

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Re: [Cooker] qt3 build

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On Saturday 09 November 2002 07:31 am, Stew Benedict wrote:
> How is one to build qt3 now?  With the new Xft2 it dies:
>
> Xft support cannot be enabled due to functionality tests!
>  Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to ./configure to see the final report.
>  If you believe this message is in error you may use the continue
>  switch (-continue) to ./configure to continue.
> error: Bad exit status from /home/stewb/tmp/rpm-tmp.67779 (%build)
>
> Same on the cluster once XFree86-devel was upgraded.
>
> Stew Benedict

There was an email discussion between Laurent, a few other cookers and myself 
about this a few days ago. There should be a patch (or two) in those emails.

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Re: [Cooker] can't rebuild qt3 after update to XFT2...

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On Wednesday 06 November 2002 04:30 pm, laurent Montel wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 November 2002 22:05, Brian Smith wrote:
[ snip ]

> You patch is very complicated.
> I create a patch this morning :
> --- qt-copy-3.1_20021104/configure--2002-11-06 08:55:39.0 +0100
> +++ qt-copy-3.1_20021104/configure  2002-11-06 08:55:41.0 +0100
> @@ -254,7 +254,7 @@ CFG_MNG=auto
>  CFG_LIBMNG=qt
>  CFG_XRENDER=auto
>  CFG_FREETYPE=auto
> -CFG_FONTCONFIG=no
> +CFG_FONTCONFIG=yes
>  CFG_QWS_FREETYPE=yes
>  CFG_SQL_AVAILABLE=
>  CFG_SQL_AUTODETECTED=
> and it links with fontconfig.

Thanks. All the help I can get is great. :)

> But I asked to kde develop, and xft2 was desactivated in qt because konsole
> was very broken with xft2
> So for the moment I will try to test it in local PC.

We'll I'll also check on that too. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: [Cooker] can't rebuild qt3 after update to XFT2...

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On Wednesday 06 November 2002 04:17 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
[ snip ]

> On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Brian Smith wrote:
> I hope you are not building as root (bad idea in general), and it's a bad
> idea to encourage others to do so, so maybe when referring to rpm
> directories, you can refer to them by their macro name:
>
> cp qt-2.1.0-fix-xfs.patch.bz2 `rpm --eval "%_sourcedir"`
>
> (BTW, I mean in general , to the list, not you individually)

Oh God, no. I build all of my packages as me on my system and only rpm -Uvh of 
rpm -ivh as root.

> > 2) cd to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS and apply the attached
> > qt3.spec.patch.bz2 file to your qt3.spec file:
> > # bzip2 -dc qt3.spec.patch.bz2 | patch -p0
>
> cd `rpm --eval "%_specdir"

interesting...

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Re: [Cooker] can't rebuild qt3 after update to XFT2...

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On Wednesday 06 November 2002 04:05 pm, Brian Smith wrote:
> > Could anybody throw me a bone and let me know what I need
> > to do to get qt to compile with the new Xft?
>
> I've just finished getting the latest qt3 from Cooker to
> compile with Xft2. I had to make some tweaks to the
> configure script to get it all to play nicely together.
>
> Here's what you need to do, assuming you've already
> installed the Mandrake source RPM:
>
> 1) Copy the attached qt-3.1.0-fix-xft.patch.bz2 file to
> /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES
>
> 2) cd to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS and apply the attached
> qt3.spec.patch.bz2 file to your qt3.spec file:
> # bzip2 -dc qt3.spec.patch.bz2 | patch -p0
>
> 3) Rebuild the packages from the new spec file:
> # rpm -ba qt3.spec
>
> 4) Profit!!!  Well, maybe not. The resulting packages work
> OK for me, your mileage may vary. I'm using the latest
> freetype-devel, libXft2-devel, and fontconfig-devel
> packages from Cooker.
>
> --
> Brian Smith

Thanks for the much needed patches :)

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[Cooker] can't rebuild qt3 after update to XFT2...

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I've been trying to rebuild qt3 and kde3.1 rpms to run faster on my system and 
to conform a little more to FHS standards. Problem arose after updating to 
today's commits to cooker, Xft was updated to Xft2/fontconfig. I'll admit I 
really like the new font rendering a whole lot, but I'm also really intent in 
rebuilding qt. Could anybody throw me a bone and let me know what I need to 
do to get qt to compile with the new Xft?

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Re: [Cooker] KDE musings...

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On Wednesday 06 November 2002 12:59 am, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 November 2002 01:11 am, Gary Greene wrote:
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> > On Tuesday 05 November 2002 01:52 am, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > > On Sunday 03 November 2002 09:04 am, Gary Greene wrote:
> > > > Where'd the information section in the KDE Control Centre go? I think
> > > > that it became a seperate app called kinfocenter, but when I try to
> > > > run it I get told that that doesn't exist. Insight to this would be
> > > > great.
> > > >
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> > >
> > > No, it's still there in /usr/bin/kcontrol. I can also get to it from
> > > the K menu via the path Configuration-KDE-Information-. MenuDrake
> > > doesn't show a command for Information, but does show the various
> > > commands it calls, such as 'kcmshell memory' for memory.
> >
> > This is incorrect.
>
> It is correct for my system running stock Mandrake 9.0 final. I can access
> the Information panel, and I can run the modules.
>
> > I use the KDE default menus NOT the debian menus that
> > mdk uses for a unified menu system.
>
> It would be helpful if you stated what version of Mandrake and KDE you were
> using when asking what happened to a piece of software.

Therein lies the problem. I update to the newest stuff as it gets put on the 
Cooker server. I've been running KDE3.1 (b2, rc1, now rc2) since it was on 
the web.

> > I spoke with a few of the core
> > develpers from the KDE project, this is what I found out... In KDE3.1 rc1
>
> Finally I understand the source of confusion. I'm running KDE 3.0.3.

On the cooker list and haven't updated KDE?

> > the information section was moved out of the Control Centre and presented
> > as kinfocenter. Unfortunately for us using mdk's kde rpms, kinfocenter
> > isn't stripped out for the packaging. It's configuration files in
> > /usr/share/ are there but not the binary for /usr/bin.
>
> Thanks for the warning.

No problem. I'm just hoping that Laurent can get it fixed soon :)

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Re: [Cooker] KDE musings...

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On Tuesday 05 November 2002 01:52 am, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> On Sunday 03 November 2002 09:04 am, Gary Greene wrote:
> > Where'd the information section in the KDE Control Centre go? I think
> > that it became a seperate app called kinfocenter, but when I try to run
> > it I get told that that doesn't exist. Insight to this would be great.
> >
> > - --
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>
> No, it's still there in /usr/bin/kcontrol. I can also get to it from the K
> menu via the path Configuration-KDE-Information-. MenuDrake doesn't
> show a command for Information, but does show the various commands it
> calls, such as 'kcmshell memory' for memory.

This is incorrect. I use the KDE default menus NOT the debian menus that mdk 
uses for a unified menu system. I spoke with a few of the core develpers from 
the KDE project, this is what I found out... In KDE3.1 rc1 the information 
section was moved out of the Control Centre and presented as kinfocenter. 
Unfortunately for us using mdk's kde rpms, kinfocenter isn't stripped out for 
the packaging. It's configuration files in /usr/share/ are there but not the 
binary for /usr/bin.

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[Cooker] KDE musings...

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Where'd the information section in the KDE Control Centre go? I think that it 
became a seperate app called kinfocenter, but when I try to run it I get told 
that that doesn't exist. Insight to this would be great.

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Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins

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On Saturday 02 November 2002 04:33 pm, Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
> On Saturday 02 November 2002 22:47, David Walser wrote:
> > Works for me.  Only exception is when using over
> > remote X and flash is called, then it hangs.  If I
> > killall nspluginviewer I'm back in business.
>
> I can't kill it, that's a problem. And the X is local, not remote.

Tried a kill -15 on it? That should stop it (hopefully.)

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Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken

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On Tuesday 29 October 2002 01:59 pm, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >>>>> "mcleod," == Mcleod, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> mcleod,> I am using the stock standard Mandrake 9.0 kernel - I have lost
> XMMS sound mcleod,> (could be unrelated though) - are we advised to upgarde
> our kernel?
>
> This should work, no idea why it is borken :(
> Will look at it.

I can confirm this. Sound was working with 2.4.19-16mdk. Then, when I updated 
the kernel to 2.4.19-17mdk, the only sound I was getting was the output from 
my line-in that I use for my electric guitar effects processor for recording. 
All other sounds were gone untill I grabbed the tarball from kernel.org and 
built my own. As I stated in an earlier post, my sound card is a Creative 
Labs Sound Blaster AWE 64 value ISA-PnP. If you need any further information 
about my system, don't hesitate to ask.

> BTW, this kernel is still not aimed as 9.0 upgrade.  ACPI works in all
> my machines (except in one and it uses old code automatically just
> well), but I _know_ that it don't work in all people machines :(
>
> 9.1 will have ACPI kernel by default and everybody that complains
> until then will have acpi fixed or their system blacklisted to use
> the old code.  Problem is that basically all the new laptops & PIV
> requires or need ACPI to function well.

Also can confirm this. My Compaq Presario 700RSH won't shutdown or reboot 
correctly without ACPI functionality.

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Re: [Cooker] I've lost all sound on my system under KDE...

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> I did that. The strange thing is that the Linus saying Linux wav cuts out
> after "Hello this is" Just for safe messure I'm rebuilding the kernel
> vanilla from kernel.org to see if may be one of the patches are to blaim.
>
> btw, could you please change your reply-to to work correctly for the list?

update:

The 2.4.19-17mdk kernel IS to blame for the loss of sound. I'm currently 
running the vanilla 2.4.19 from kernel.org and have my mp3s playing once 
again.

Juan, could you please look into this? I've a ISA PnP CL SB AWE64 value 
installed. I know I can't be the only one on the list with this problem since 
that card, even though it's old, is a very good sound card that has been the 
staple for anyone with sound production needs on PCs (at least before the 
Line PLAT.) Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Cooker] I've lost all sound on my system under KDE...

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On Friday 25 October 2002 11:12 pm, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
> >>>>> "G" == Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> G> As the title says, I've lost all so9und under KDE with the new
> G> kernel. My sound card is a SB AWE64. It was working fine until
> G> recently.
>
> This happened to both our machines with 9.0: We had to run sndconfig
> and I still have to kill esd when my session starts.

I did that. The strange thing is that the Linus saying Linux wav cuts out
after "Hello this is" Just for safe messure I'm rebuilding the kernel vanilla
from kernel.org to see if may be one of the patches are to blaim.

btw, could you please change your reply-to to work correctly for the list?
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[Cooker] I've lost all sound on my system under KDE...

[Gary Greene]

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As the title says, I've lost all so9und under KDE with the new kernel. My 
sound card is a SB AWE64. It was working fine until recently.

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Re: [Cooker] Battery not detected in HP Omnibook XE3 and XE4100

[Gary Greene]

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On Friday 25 October 2002 11:02 am, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> Joan Tur wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >
> > Es Divendres 25 Octubre 2002 14:31, en Simone Riccio va escriure:
> >>Hi everyone!
> >>just thought i could share this with u all:
> >>on hp omnibooks xe3 and xe4100 klaptop tells that there is no battery
> >>and that the laptop is running on ac power even when the ac adpter ain't
> >>connected.. :)
> >
> > All HP notebooks support acpi, not apm, so you have to compile the kernel
> > with acpi support.
> >
> > If you're using mandrake9 you'll find a acpi patched kernel at:
> > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~quintela/acpi/
>
> My HP OB500 works fine with apm (at least for bettery status) but since
> 9.0 it freezes when waking up.
> I'll try this acpi kernel (an acpi hand-patched kernel made the computer
> freeze just when loading kernel then it got very hot and the fan did't
> start...).

I've also got issues with apm on my laptop (and could never get acpi to work 
correctly...) My machine is a Compaq 700-RSH with the following vitals:

1 GHz Duron
128 MB RAM
VIA vt82c686 Apollo Super ACPI [bridge_other]
VIA vt82c686 Apollo Super [bridge_isa]
VIA vt8363/6365 KT133/KM133 AGP [bridge_pci]
VIA vt8363/6365 KT133/KM133 [bridge_host]
Running Mandrake 9.0 with Mandrake stock kernel build.

The problems I'm having are: battery doesn't show up with APM (same as last 
post more than likely ACPI related.) When I halt the system, it will not 
power down, requiring me to manually shut it off with the Fn + power button. 
Finally, if I reboot, it locks up after reboot at the Compaq BIOS screen. 
This part I'm thinking is that the BIOS is trying to find values that it 
expects at reboot that just aren't there so it hangs. If anybody else on the 
list has these problems and have worked them out let me know.

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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.19.17mdk-1-1mdk

[Gary Greene]

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On Thursday 24 October 2002 05:34 pm, Juan Quintela wrote:
> Name: kernel-2.4.19.17mdk  Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Thu Oct 24 22:26:11
> 2002 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:

[snip]

> * Wed Oct 02 2002 Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-1mdk
>
> - use acpi.
> - 2.4.19-q17.
>   * new AM02 acpi 20020918.
>   * remove lots of small patches for old acpi.
> - 2.4.19-17mdk.

yea =) new acpi stuff! Other than that, can the team take a look at the 
supermount problem? If there is a better sulotion to automounting removable 
media (the rumored volumn-magic stuff) lets use it instead if possible.

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake

[Gary Greene]

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On Tuesday 22 October 2002 06:55 pm, Stephen Pickering wrote:
> rpmdrake should return to the original single installer / uninstaller with
> options to force install/remove only (for the unexperienced).

First, Guillaume has stated several times thta we cannot go back to the other 
version of rpmdrake, due Mdk not having a graphical C/Gtk programmer on the 
team. Second, forcing an install/remove is the WORST thing that you can allow 
for a newbie that has no prior Linux experience. Hell, when I first started 
using Linux I was using SuSE at the time and it had the option IN THE 
INSTALLER to force install stuff without the deps. Of course this meant that 
I had to spend a few days of reinstalling since I had b0rkd my installs bad. 
It was only my roommate Aaron that showed me the reason behind the madness 
that are dependancies.

> And bring back the feature that showed which version is currently
> installed.

You already have that feature. Just right click on the right pane to show more 
information about the selected package, including source and current 
installed version.

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Re: [Cooker] Laptop recommendations?

[Gary Greene]

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On Saturday 19 October 2002 11:59 am, Igor Izyumin wrote:
> On Saturday 19 October 2002 10:08 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 15:50, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:
> > There's four chipsets to get halfway decent hardware 3D on a laptop.
> > Mobile Radeon 7500, Mobile Radeon 9000, Geforce2Go and Geforce4Go. I
> > believe the GF2Go and GF4Go either are or will be supported by NVIDIA's
> > binary drivers, so if you're one who doesn't have issues with the nvidia
> > drivers, they'd be fine.
>
> I would say go for nvidia.  Currently, they are the only cards with decent
> GL drivers out there.  Yes, some people have some issues with the drivers,
> but at least nvidia stands behind them.

No, they don't. NViDIA releases their linux drivers "As is." They haven't an 
ounce of support. Additionally, another nail in the coffin for them is the 
fact that they won't let the XFree team even a glimpse of the spec to build 
better more reliable and intellegently written drivers.

> > I'm not completely up on ATI support, but I
> > know the Mobile Radeons are very, very similar to the desktop chipsets
> > (the 9000 is basically identical), so if the desktop ones are supported,
> > I'd be very surprised if the mobile ones weren't.
>
> ATI desktop support is horrible, and mobile is even worse.  Don't buy ATI.
> The best you could hope for are incredibly bad binary drivers that work
> half the time and are actually intended for a different card.  That's what
> the 8500 drivers are like.  The 9000 and up don't even have drivers yet,
> and they probably won't come out until the card is obsolete.

Not true. ATI (at least up until recently) actually allowed access to their 
specs. This allow2ed drivers to be written with true 3D acceleration support. 
AFA the 8500 and 9000 series, I'll conceed taht ATI isn't as nice to 
community as they used to be. :(

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Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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Re: [Cooker] OSNews Review

[Gary Greene]

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On Friday 18 October 2002 12:29 pm, Han Boetes wrote:
> Gary Greene ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I stand corrected... I'd failed to check where my freetype2 lib was
> > downloaded from. It's the PLF one :(
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/rpms/freetype2-2.1.3-0.rc2.1mdk.src.rpm
>
> Try this one for kicks. ;)

Thanks Han. I'll give it a whirl later tonight when I get the chance to build 
it :)

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Re: [Cooker] OSNews Review

[Gary Greene]

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On Friday 18 October 2002 01:39 am, Gary Greene wrote:
> On Friday 18 October 2002 12:54 am, David Walluck wrote:
> > Igor Izyumin wrote:
> > > On Thursday 17 October 2002 03:23 pm, Brad Chamberlin wrote:
> > 5.) anti-aliased fonts. RedHat's xft2 support might be the way to go,
> > and this should be looked at for 9.1.
>
> Actually, with the most recent freetype installed, my system is rendering
> fonts a zillion times better.

I stand corrected... I'd failed to check where my freetype2 lib was downloaded 
from. It's the PLF one :(

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[Cooker] ksplash/ML...

[Gary Greene]

I realize that you're busy with the most recent version of KDE, but do you 
think that you could update ksplash/ML to 0.95.3 which was released in late 
september? Thanks ahead of time.

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Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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[Cooker] komba2...

[Gary Greene]

komba2 got wiped out by the update to KDE 3.1

Could we get a rebuild of this soon? I use this daily so...

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--Developing a emotion daemon for the Human OS   
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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[Cooker] feature request for Software Sources Manager...

[Gary Greene]

Guillaume, if it's possible could you make a small modification to the 
dialogue that says : Please wait, updating media.

The change that I'm requesting is to add support for a progress of the 
download to it for something like this:

  ___
 |   |
 | Please wait, updating media...|
 |   |
 |  [-> ] 75%  |
 |  [   ] 0%   |
 |___|

(view mail with fixed font please...)

My reasoning for the addition of this is that I really would like to know how 
much longer it will take to update the media for update.

Thanks for the great job making RPMDRAKE a really stable and intuitive 
utility.

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--Developing a emotion daemon for the Human OS   
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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[Cooker] kopete 0.5 in CVS...

[Gary Greene]

I noticed that the yahoo protocal plugin is now available for the new version. 
Is it possible that we could have this soon? :)

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--Developing a emotion daemon for the Human OS   
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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Re: [Cooker] Now that cooker is reopened...

[Gary Greene]

On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:03 am, Warly wrote:
> Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Now that cooker is reopened and the updates to main have begun, I'm
> > wondering has anyone looked at the out-of-sync hdlist2 problem in
> > contrib?
>
> I thought I had fixed it several days ago, do you still have the pb?

Nope. Thanks Warly for the response.

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--Developing a emotion daemon for the Human OS   
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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[Cooker] Now that cooker is reopened...

[Gary Greene]

Now that cooker is reopened and the updates to main have begun, I'm wondering 
has anyone looked at the out-of-sync hdlist2 problem in contrib?

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--Developing a emotion daemon for the Human OS   
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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Re: [Cooker] missing contrib packages on sunsite.uio.no

[Gary Greene]

On Saturday 05 October 2002 02:21 am, Han Boetes wrote:
> This is the typical: ``It doesn't work'' bug report that is impossible
> to answer. You give your version of the error message.
>
> Now all we can do is guess.
>
> Have a good read here:
>
>   http://www.mozilla.org/quality/bug-writing-guidelines.html

I've given all the data I can about this, Han. If you re-read my email, you'll 
note that it states that some packages couldn't download and that the 
culprits are the list of rpms that I put on there. I haven't checked 
physically on the mirror for the packages themselves yet, however I thought 
by now the hdlist2 problem was solved since other packages were downloaded 
fine by urpmi. And BTW, I know how to write good bug reports, but as stated 
before, there really isn't anything else that I could give data on.

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--Developing an emotion daemon for the Human OS  
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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[Cooker] missing contrib packages on sunsite.uio.no

[Gary Greene]

I've been having a hard time updating my system to the latest stuff in 
contribs lately...

>From what urpmi --auto-select is telling me, there is a new version of some 
contrib packages out there. I( try to update and it fails saying that it 
cannot find some of the packages selected while the other packages download 
fine.

The culprits are:

apache2-2.0.42-6mdk
apache2-common-2.0.42-6mdk
apache2-conf-2.0.42-3mdk
apache2-manual-2.0.42-6mdk
apache2-modules-2.0.42-6mdk
apache2-mod_php-2.0.42_4.2.3-2mdk
libapr0-2.0.42-6mdk

Could someone tell me what's going on?

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--developing an emotion daemon for the Human OS
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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Re: [Cooker] courier-imap and squirrel-mail configurations...

[Gary Greene]

On Sunday 29 September 2002 05:11 pm, Gary Greene wrote:
> I've tried everything that you've instructed, and I still get:
>
> Unknown user or password
>
> I'm really getting lost here...

I'm stupid. Ignore the last post I sent. I got it working...

(reminder to self: remember to install ALL of the packages that are 
necessary...)

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--development of the emotion daemon for the Human OS project   
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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Re: [Cooker] courier-imap and squirrel-mail configurations...

[Gary Greene]

On Sunday 29 September 2002 11:17 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Thomas Backlund wrote:
> > Have you set up the Maildir for every user?
> >
> > if not, that is exactly what will happend...
> >
> > login as user, execute maildirmake Maildir
> > (this have to be done with every user, with their own login, to get
> > the right permissions, or as root:su 'user' and execute the command...)
>
> Not really, you can also do it as root, and just chown the  maildir.
> Something like this would probably work:
>
> # cd /home
> # for i in *;do
>   maildirmake $i/Maildir
>   chown -R $i $i/Maildir
> done
>
> (of course, choose yuor options for maildirmake).
>
> And, you might want to spare yourself some effort, by :
>
> # maildirmake /etc/skel/Maildir
>
> (or copy one with a primed inbox if you want, from another account, and
> shown it root).
>
> > With MDK 8.2 both courier-imap and squirrelmail vorked allmost out
> > of the box, just standard configuration info needed...
> > I expect the 9.0 to be the same, but I wont be able to do/verify it
> > before next weekend when I will upgrade my 3 severs at work...
>
> It worked just fine on RC2 (which I have in production somewhere ...
> need to update it now ...).
>
> Buchan

I've tried everything that you've instructed, and I still get:

Unknown user or password

I'm really getting lost here...

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--developing an emotion daemon for the Human OS
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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[Cooker] courier-imap and squirrel-mail configurations...

[Gary Greene]

could some one talk me through the config of these two packages off list? I'm 
getting stumped with incorrect passwd responses from the login.

Thanks for the help before hand,

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver for the Human OS
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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Re: [Cooker] release cd1 fails burn

[Gary Greene]

On Friday 27 September 2002 08:03 pm, J. Greenlees wrote:
> went to download the iso's for the release, we now have three coasters
> from trying to burn cd1.
> the md5sums matched, but it just won't burn. this was the copy on the
> hawaii mirror at:
>
> ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/mandrake/Mandrake/iso/
>
> extracted all packages and repackaging didn't help, after 67 mb written
> to cd it would crash the burn.
> unfortunately, only cdrw is on my wife's winxp platform so only get
> windows failure message no real concrete data as to what caused the
> failure. the burn software is Nero 5, with the updates installed.
>
> the other iso's burned no errors.

Hmmm... I had similar results at LUG for our install-day. I think I have a 
possible theory about it, but I need some more data from you to back it up. 
What brand CDs and what brand burner are you using?

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver for the Human OS
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
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[Cooker] Re: Nondeliverable mail

[Gary Greene]

On Tuesday 24 September 2002 01:38 am, you wrote:
> --Transcript of session follows ---
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The system cannot find the path specified.

This guy's address keeps bouncing. I've gotten three undeliverables from his 
ISP. Could someone please remove him from the list?

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver for the Human OS
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
=

Re: [Cooker] Warly, question....

[Gary Greene]

On Monday 23 September 2002 11:56 pm, Joseph Watson wrote:
> On Monday 23 September 2002 11:49 pm, Gary Greene wrote:
> > I guess I was assuming from the messages that were on the list earlier
> > this week that the 9.0 final iso's would be out on the ftp sites this
> > Monday, but I guess I was mistaken. Could you please tell me (and the
> > rest of the list) when they'll be on the web?
>
> WHY do you want to rush this   If you want to use Mandrake 9.0,
> download RC3.  It is solid.
>
> We would all rather another two weeks of testing versas a buggy
> release!

First, I was asking Warly a legitmate question. I, and many others that I know 
would like a little solid info about 9.0's release other than it was supposed 
to be out on the 13th.

Second, I see NONE of the problems that a select few have been seeing in the 
distro (and yes I have a PS/2 mouse that works, a USB keyboard and a AWE 64 
SB.) In fact, I've been testing it on over six machines with WIDELY different 
hardware configurations. To hold off on release for, what I perceive is 
nothing more than hardware conflicts on a very small percentage of test 
systems that could be nothing more than the fact that they probably haven't 
synced to the package set recently enough, is foolhardy.

Third, I'm under pressure from my LUG that I run to find out when the ISO's 
will be available. We are running an install session soon. We really don't 
want to have to upgrade their machines like a week later when 9.0 comes out. 
So I'm asking the source, the Mandrake developers that are actively on the 
cooker list.

Finally, I really don't appreciate being yelled at over email. It only puts me 
in a bad mood.

Look I understand that you want to have a polished distribution, however, I 
really don't think that Mdk can keep shoving the release date back further 
and further just to fix things that really, as I said before, are probably 
machine specific and not the distros fault.

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver for the Human OS
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
=

[Cooker] Warly, question....

[Gary Greene]

I guess I was assuming from the messages that were on the list earlier this 
week that the 9.0 final iso's would be out on the ftp sites this Monday, but 
I guess I was mistaken. Could you please tell me (and the rest of the list) 
when they'll be on the web?

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver for the Human OS
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[ OK ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[ OK ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ OK ]
#Stating emotiond..[ FRUSTRATED ]
Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV   
=

[Cooker] Laurent, can we get kdebindings 3.0.3 for mdk 9.0?

[Gary Greene]

Just curious.

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

[Cooker] Bluefish crashes when I resize to fullscreen....

[Gary Greene]

Trying out bluefish as an html editor, however whenever I resize to full 
screen, it seg faults.

The version that I have installed is:
bluefish-0.7-2mdk

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

[Cooker] still more packages not recompiled with gcc final...

[Gary Greene]

Here's the list:

kdebindings-3.0.2-1mdk
kdebindings-devel-3.0.2-1mdk
kio_fish-1.1.2-4mdk
kio_rpm-0.0.6-4mdk
kmasqdialer-2.05-2mdk
knetfilter-3.0.2-2mdk
knights-0.5.6-8mdk
quanta-3.0-0.pre1.1mdk
qvwm-1.1.12-2mdk

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

[Cooker] More stuff that hasn't been rebuilt with gcc 3.2.0...

[Gary Greene]

Was about to do an update to the most recent cooker, but urpmi tells me that 
in order to upgrade I need to loose these apps:

kdebindings-3.0.2-1mdk
kdebindings-devel-3.0.2-1mdk
kile-1.1-2mdk
kio_fish-1.1.2-4mdk
kio_rpm-0.0.6-4mdk
klogic-1.401-3mdk
kmasqdialer-2.05-2mdk
knetfilter-3.0.2-2mdk
knights-0.5.6-8mdk
komba2-0.73-0.beta1.7mdk
kover-2.8.6-2mdk
kshowmail-3.0.3-2mdk
kxmleditor-0.7.2-2mdk
quanta-3.0-0.pre1.1mdk
qvwm-1.1.12-2mdk

If the packagers would be so kind to release these for the new C++ ABI, I be 
very greatful (especially since I really would like to kick the tires on 
gcc3.2.0 final :) ).

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

Re: [Cooker] Installer suggestion

[Gary Greene]

On Friday 16 August 2002 05:58 pm, David Walser wrote:
> --- Mark Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And perhaps we should have LISa AT LEAST LISTED in
> > the services, if not
> > on by default, so that an inexperienced user will be
> > able to see
> > something aside from an error message when clicking
> > on Konqueror's LAN
> > browser.
> >
> > It has a useful default.  Turn off the port
> > scanning.  Enable the search
> > using nmblookup only.  Then you'll see computers
> > like you would in
> > Windows.
>
> Can you write an init script that would do this?  If
> so, maybe Laurent would be willing to include it.

SuSE has an init script for this. If I had my SuSE box here I'd get it to 
you...

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

Re: [Cooker] A couple 9b1 issues

[Gary Greene]

On Thursday 15 August 2002 01:58 pm, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I can confirm this for the FAT not VFAT. FAT8 topped at 256Mb file
> > size w/ a 512 Mb partition limit, FAT16 at 2Gb file size w/ a 2Gb
> > partition limit, FAT32 at 4Gb file size w/ a 2Tb partition limit,
> > and NTFS at 2Tb w/ a partition limit of 30Tb.
>
> fat8? this never existed!
> there was fat12 for floppies, then fat16 when ms eventually undertood
> that hard disks were usefull, then fat32 when they understood that 2gb
> disks were small, then 8Gb since they bug their first fat32
> implementation, ...
>
> so here's the data:
>
> fs| max fs size
> --+-
> fat12 | 2Mo (512*2^12)/1024^2 [fat for floopies]
> fat16 | 32 Mo (512*2^16)/1024  <== up to dos v3.x
> fat16 | 2Go (2^16)^2 (with clusters ranging
>
>   | from 512b to 64kb aka 1 to 128 sectors)
>
> fat32 | 8go (bug!) <== win98
> fat32 | more than 8Go <== win98 sp2
>
> this is the maximum fs size; the maximum file size is either this size
> or smaller.
>
> so the old fat16 cannot have files greater than 2go, the original
> fat32 (win 95 and win98 (not service pack2)) don't support fs greater
> than 8Gb
>
> so we can expect all ms "os" since msdos 3.x (3.3 ?) to support 2Gb
> files.

My goof on the fat8 vs. fat12 on MS os'.

Actually fat 8 DID exsist in the form of old Novell dos. Anyway, the file size 
limits I listed are correct. They were gleened from the Windows NT 4.0 
Workstation Resource guide.

-- 
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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

Re: [Cooker] A couple 9b1 issues

[Gary Greene]

On Thursday 15 August 2002 11:22 am, Pixel wrote:
> Igor Izyumin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:25 am, Pixel wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > - When formatting a loopback filesystem greater than 2GB in size on a
> > > >   vfat partition, DrakX crashes every time. This problem existed in
> > > >   8.2 as well -- it would be nice to prohibit this if vfat can't
> > > >   handle it.
> > >
> > > crashes? any error message? i guess i'll have to test...
> >
> > Does vfat even support files >2GB?  I thought you had to upgrade to NTFS
> > to get large file support in Winblows.
>
> if someone can confirm, i'll add a check in diskdrake for this case.

I can confirm this for the FAT not VFAT. FAT8 topped at 256Mb file size w/ a 
512 Mb partition limit, FAT16 at 2Gb file size w/ a 2Gb partition limit, 
FAT32 at 4Gb file size w/ a 2Tb partition limit, and NTFS at 2Tb w/ a 
partition limit of 30Tb.

-- 
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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

[Gary Greene]

On Wednesday 14 August 2002 06:47 pm, Igor Izyumin wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 August 2002 02:01 pm, Gary Greene wrote:
> > Personally, I liked it much more than the new bootsplash system. Sure it
> > had some issues (specifically when harddrake and kudzu would find changes
> > in the hardware installed) but over all I found it to be more
> > asthetically pleasing than a console window in a box-window.
>
> The console-in-a-box window is fine.  This is not windows, you don't reboot
> every 15 minutes, so I don't think it's important how it looks.  It also
> causes much fewer problems than Aurora does: fsck, kudzu, and other
> unforseen problems don't cause it to crash.

I very much disagree with that. The one thing that Aurora did well was 
obfuscating the start scripts from the user. MS Windows splash screen is 
simple for a reason: the common joe user doesn't care that a certain 
subsystem is loading or not. all they care is that it works. If fsck, kudzu, 
and harddrake don't know how to behave with the it, find a workaround for 
them. And saying that we shouldn't care about the startup's appearance, then 
we've religated Linux only to the technological geeks. We should always make 
sure that the first thing that they see will inspire confidence that this is 
a polished and professional product.

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

[Gary Greene]

On Tuesday 13 August 2002 11:22 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote:
> On Tue Aug 13 19:02 -0400, Jakub Pas wrote:
> > What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2
> > but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece...
>
> You're the only one, then.  Aurora annoyed me to no end when I was using
> 8.x.
>
> ;o)

Personally, I liked it much more than the new bootsplash system. Sure it had 
some issues (specifically when harddrake and kudzu would find changes in the 
hardware installed) but over all I found it to be more asthetically pleasing 
than a console window in a box-window.

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

[Cooker] KDE Control Center bootloader module

[Gary Greene]

Why was lilo-config removed from the kdeadmin package? since it's not 
installed, KDE has an orphaned CC module. could the KDE team look into this 
please?

KDE 3.0.2
QT  3.0.5

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[Cooker] rpmdrake issues...

[Gary Greene]

rpmdrake is broken on my machine.

I can get the list of available packages from the server, then whe I try to 
install the new package, it downloads the packages, and then for some strange 
reason it says that I have it already installed, even though I don't. This 
goes for updates as well as new packages.

It's almost as if it's unable to notice the packages in the 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ directory. urpmi still works however.

Software versions:
gurpmi  = 3.9-3mdk
urpmi   = 3.9-3mdk
perl-URPM   = 0.50-4mdk
grpmi   = 8.3-1mdk
rpmdrake= 1.5-3mdk
rpmtools= 4.4-1mdk
rpm = 4.0.4-13mdk
rpm-python  = 4.0.4-13mdk
rpmlint = 0.46-1mdk
rpmbuilder  = 0.5.1b-1mdk
rpm-build   = 4.0.4-13mdk
rpm-get = 1.4-2mdk
rpm-helper  = 0.3-1mdk
rpm-rebuilder   = 0.7-1mdk
rpmstats= 0.3-4mdk
rpmproc = 2.1.4-1mdk
rpmfind = 1.7-2mdk
rpm-devel   = 4.0.4-13mdk

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
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[Cooker] can't update with rpmdrake or urpmi...

[Gary Greene]

It keeps saying that the packages are either bad or unreachable.

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Re: [Cooker] minitel emulator

[Gary Greene]

On Thursday 13 June 2002 04:16 pm, Daouda LO wrote:
> > Could someone tell me what it is? I can't speak French.
>
> It's a minitel [1] emulator.
>
> Cosmic : xtel is in contribs.
>
> [1] french network of low cost terminals prior to the internet in
> France. It always exists but is more and more competed by the Internet.

Thanks for the fast translation.

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
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[Cooker] feature request for rpmdrake...

[Gary Greene]

Small request:

could you please add a graphical way to add stuff to our skip list? I know 
it's a small thing but I think that there are some poeple that install and 
administrate mandrake boxen that use the graphical enviroment much nore so 
than cli to do updates.

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Re: [Cooker] minitel emulator

[Gary Greene]

On Thursday 13 June 2002 03:02 pm, Cosmic Flo wrote:
> http://pficheux.free.fr/xtel/
>
> _
> Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse
> http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp.

Could someone tell me what it is? I can't speak French.

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
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[Cooker] conflicts in todays upgrade...

[Gary Greene]

file /usr/share/man/man3/err.3.bz2 from install of man-pages-1.51-1mdk 
conflicts with file from package libopenssl0-devel-0.9.6d-4mdk

that sums it up...

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

Re: [Cooker] Bug list....

[Gary Greene]

On Wednesday 12 June 2002 09:37 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Gary Greene wrote:
> This is a known issue with msec since 8.2. This is how to fix it:
> [bgmilne@bgmilne bgmilne]$ cat /etc/security/msec/level.local
>
> #!/usr/bin/python
> from mseclib import *
> allow_user_list(0)
>

Thanks for the info about the work around. I didn't even think that msec was 
the culprit. 

> | 3) Ksplash/ML: I can add new themes but, I can't seem to be able to 
configure
> | any of them for my personal tastes. Additionally, the rpm doesn't put 
entries
> | into the new style menu, only the original KDE menu.
>
> What do you mean by the original KDE menu? I was under the impression it
> should only be accessible from kcontrol (KDE Control Centre).

When you first boot into Mandrake KDE or GNOME, you're using the new style 
menu. Not the "What is it?" nor the stock menus. Under the new style menu all 
of the KDE Control Centre entries are kept under Preferences > KDE > 
whatever-the-entries-name-is. This is this way since kcontrol uses those 
.desktop  files to display the various options.

>
> rpm --rebuild package-version-relmdk.src.rpm
>
> or:
>
> rpm -ivh package-version-relmdk.src.rpm
> rpm -ba `rpm --eval "%{_specdir}"`/package.spec
>
> Check the mandrake rpm howto on how to ensure you are setup correctly
> for this (ie non-root building etc).

I know how to build RPMs. It's just that the Mandrake KDE spec files are set 
up to take a few build-time options that I don't know how to set up.

> Either:
> 1)Deal with having no Java
> 2)Run RPMs built with gcc2.9x like those I have made available (for 8.2)
> at http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.2
> 3)Convince SUN to release a JRE/JDK compiled with gcc>=3.1.0
> 4)Fix kaffe or other open-source JRE implementations to support
> JRE>=1.3.0 functionality.

Convincing SUN Micro to rebuild JRE/JDK is like trying to convince the douped 
gamers that I live with that Microsoft is NOT the solution.

BTW, anybody here have the srpms for gcc-2.95.3 sitting about? Even though 
it's old, let me know. I really need it and it's libraries for a couple of 
old apps that I've got laying about.

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--changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS Driver...  
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Insmod Adaptive Technology Device module..[   OK   ]
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[   OK   ]

Kernel Sys Oops.. Flushing registers.. Back-trace follows..  
=

[Cooker] Bug list....

[Gary Greene]

Hello,

I recently moved up to a fully cooker environment to get some of the recent 
updates (KDE 3.0.1, gcc 3.1.1, et al) Anyway very nice so far, but with the 
good comes a few bug reports...

KDE stuff first:

1) KDM: I've noticed a slight security problem with kdm, or rather in 
kdm_greet, I think. When I set it (kdm) to not show users, it works fine as 
long as I log in to and out of the root account only. However, when I use my 
perssonal account then log out again, the users are shown again (including 
root.)

2) Kpersonalizer: I know that this has been reported on-list before, however, 
I may have it tracked down. I appears that kpersonalizer seems to be ignoring 
the /usr/share/config/kpersonalizerrc all together. Additionally, 
kpersonalizer.cpp seems to be re-writing the 
~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc every time (and promptly ignores it if 
you're root).

3) Ksplash/ML: I can add new themes but, I can't seem to be able to configure 
any of them for my personal tastes. Additionally, the rpm doesn't put entries 
into the new style menu, only the original KDE menu.

4) KOffice: I installed using the isos on the ftp.sunet.se mirror and noticed 
that koffice is not on the disc. Additionally, at that time it was in contrib 
not in main, whereas the i18L stuff for it WAS in main. I finally got it and 
installed it. It's rpm too does not create entries in the other menus, only 
the KDE original.

5) the KDE rpms: this is more of a question than a bug report: why is it that 
the srpms are mark not to build if you have their counterparts installed 
already? This makes it difficult to try and fix things in the code and then 
rebuild the package. I was snooping around in the kdebase-3.0.1 code to see 
if I could fix the bugs myself, but it won't let me build the package since I 
have kdebase-3.0.1 installed already. This shouldn't matter since I'm doing 
this as a user not as root. Also I noticed a few switches in the spec file 
that I don't know how to call at build. The way I learned rpm was just to do 
a:

   rpm -ba package.spec

and that would build it. With these specs, I don't know how best to build them 
since they have no documentation about how they are to be built.

6) KDE and other DE's as a whole: Why are we putting them in the /usr 
heirarchy? KDE and GNOME should be located in /opt/ as per LSB and 
FHS recommendation. 90% of the distributions put them there, why don't we? If 
it's only to remain RH compatible, let's cut the crap. Mandrake isn't close 
to being RedHat-compatible nor is Red Hat a Mandrake-compatible distro. 
Mandrake may be based on Red Hat historically, but it is not compatible 
anymore. This also allows the Mandrake KDE developement team to add different 
versions of these DEs without requiring MAJOR changes to the /usr filesystem 
nor major hacks to the build process. Please let's make them compatible with 
majority of the GNU/Linux base, put them back into /opt.

Non-KDE stuff:

1) Webmin: I use it a lot for samba administration on my network, I go to use 
it and lo, it won't start since it can't resolve my IP to hostname. I tried 
using a vanilla copy (0.980-1) from www.webmin.com with the same results. If 
I install an earlier vanilla version (0.970-1), it runs.

2) Mozilla v1.0.0: PSM again and Java support. but you already know about 
that...

Like I said, over-all cooker is almost at release quality, but small things 
are making it not what I would classify as production material yet.
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Re: [Cooker] Royally messed up file permissions! (was: file command has b0rked permissions on magic files)

[Gary Greene]

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 04:04 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2002 12:56:55 -0500 Steve Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > configure:6963:21: /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk/gtk.h: Permission denied
> >
> > [drfickle@tp drfickle]$ ll /usr/include/gtk-1.2/
> > ls: /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk: Permission denied
> > ls: /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk: Permission denied
> > [drfickle@tp drfickle]$ ll -d /usr/include/gtk-1.2/
> > drwxr-xr-x4 root root   96 Feb 27 10:05
> > /usr/include/gtk-1.2//
> > [drfickle@tp drfickle]$ ll -d /usr/include/
> > drwxr-xr-x  120 root root17344 Apr 24 08:28 /usr/include//
> > [drfickle@tp drfickle]$ ll -d /usr/
> > drwxr-xr-x   16 root root  416 Feb 27 09:57 /usr//
> > [drfickle@tp drfickle]$ ll -d /
> > drwxr-xr-x   18 root adm   568 Apr  9 21:23 //

This is bad

> Yikes!!!  This is FREAKY!  and smelling like a kernel bug that's been
> around for a while...

Not likely. This actually looks a whole lot like possible hardware damage. If 
I was him, I'd use a drive scanner to check disk surface integrity. Doing a 
fsck on the disk won't catch it all the time in a hardware case.

> Anyone know of a utility to look at ALL directory bits (even unused ones)
> on disk? (see analysis below)

none taht I know at the moment.

> Here's my analysis so far...
>
> I'm getting ready to upgrade my LM8.1 server and I have a similar
> situation on ext2...  The owner has 644 perms and yet...  [generic
> summary]:
>
> $ cd somepath
> bash: cd: somepath: Permission denied
>
> $ ls -ld somepath
> drw-r--r--   12 apache   apache   4096 Apr 13 23:48 somepath/
>
> $ ls somepath
> ls: somepath/somefileA: Permission denied<== ???
> ls: somepath/somefileB: Permission denied<== ???
> somedir1/ somedir2   <== ???
>
> ??? This would be a security issue if something wasn't broken; no contents
> should be visible if the path permissions don't allow access...
>
> $ ls * # snipping all but "somepath" stuff leaves:
> somedir1/
> somedir2/
>
> $ ls somepath/somedir1
> ls: somepath/somedir1: Permission denied
>
> Here's how it got stranger yet...  I copied the directory (as root) and
> deleted "somepath"; then, a new directory created later took on these
> strange properties...
>
> Stranger yet...  the above examples are really symlinked, like this:
> real path:   /home/httpd/pfortin.org/Family
> symlink1:/var/www -> /home/httpd
> symlink2:/home/apache/pfortin.org -> /var/www/html/pfortin.org
>
> so... "somepath" == /home/apache/pfortin.org/Family which is really:
>/home/apache/pfortin.org/Family
>--> /var/www/html/pfortin.org/Family
>--> /home/httpd/html/pfortin.org/Family
> like this:
> # ll /var/www
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   11 Oct  1  2001 \
>/var/www -> /home/httpd/
> # ll -d /var/www/html
> drwxr-xr-x   25 apache   nogroup  4096 Apr 22 12:00 \
>/var/www/html/
> # ll /home/apache/pfortin.org
> lrwxrwxrwx1 apache   apache 29 Dec 27 22:50 \
>/home/apache/pfortin.org -> /var/www/html/new.pfortin.org/
> # ll -d /home/httpd/html/pfortin.org
> drwxr-xr-x   34 apache   apache   4096 Apr 22 12:04 \
>/home/httpd/html/pfortin.org/
>
> There are many directories in ...pfortin.org; but "Family" is the only one
> with this problem.
>
> Now...  all these are owned by apache.apache and if I try "ls" on the ones
> which go through symlinks, I see the problem; but ls on the *real* path
> works:
> $ ls /home/httpd/html/pfortin.org/Family
> 1/   2/  4/  6/  8/  copyright.shtml  index.shtml.bak
> 10/  3/  5/  7/  9/  index.shtml
>
> Gory details:
>
> $ stat -l /home/apache/pfortin.org/Family  # see NOTE below
>   File: "/home/apache/pfortin.org/Family"
>   Size: 4096Blocks: 8  IO Block: 4096   Directory
> Device: 307h/775d   Inode: 358385  Links: 12
> Access: (0644/drw-r--r--)  Uid: (   48/  apache)   Gid: (   48/  apache)
> Access: Wed Apr 24 15:06:51 2002
> Modify: Sat Apr 13 23:48:28 2002
> Change: Tue Apr 16 23:53:18 2002
>
> $ stat -l /var/www/html/pfortin.org/Family
>   File: "/var/www/html/pfortin.org/Family"
>   Size: 4096Blocks: 8  IO Block: 4096   Directory
> Device: 307h/775d   Inode: 82999   Links: 12
> Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (   48/  apache)   Gid: (   48/  apache)
> Access: Wed Apr 24 15:22:53 2002
> Modify: Sat Apr 13 23:48:28 2002
> Change: Sat Apr 20 13:11:08 2002
>
> $ stat -l /home/httpd/html/pfortin.org/Family
>   File: "/home/httpd/html/pfortin.org/Family"
>   Size: 4096Blocks: 8  IO Block: 4096   Directory
> Device: 307h/775d   Inode: 82999   Links: 12
> Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (   48/  apache)   Gid: (   48/  apache)
> Access: Wed Apr 24 15:22:53 2002
> Modify: Sat Apr 13 23:48:28 2002
> Change: Sat Apr 20 13:11:08 2002
>
> Trying a directory inside the above path:
>
> $ stat -l /home/apache/pfortin.org/Family/1  # see NOTE below
> /home/apache/pf

Re: [Cooker] mplayer GPL now?

[Gary Greene]

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 05:59 am, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 11:00:01PM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
> > Well in case you haven't seen the info on /., it appears that mplayer is
> > GPL now.  So it looks like it can be included at least in contrib.
> >
> > http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/2002-April/007161.html
>
> This is what I got on the OpenBSD ports list:
>
> 
>  *Two-pass-code from OpenDivX *
>  **
>  *  Large parts of this code were taken from VbrControl() *
>  *  from the OpenDivX project, (C) divxnetworks,  *
>  *  this code is published under DivX Open license, which *
>  *  can be found... somewhere... oh, whatever...  *

If you read the mplayer-dev list, they actually talked about this issue. The 
offending file is the divx4Vbr.c, it still has stuff in it that is from the 
OpenDivX project.

> It's not! They just don't care.

Not true.

Ar'pi had only forgotten that that sticking point was there. In the response 
that the snip came from, one of the other core mplayer developers reminded 
him that they needed to either rewrite this class to remove ODX code, or just 
ommit that file to be GPL compliant. This means:

mplayers licence issues aren't final yet. Wait until they officially
announce it on their website.

Gary 
 
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The permission problem was rectified. It was caused by a race.   
Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems, though...
 
Here's the error:
 
#mounting local filesystems[   OK   ]
#Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W fs module  
#Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W FS module   
#Writing Sync state to Journalled VHBFS[ FAILED ]
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