Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] clamav-0.54-4mdk

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 23 Nov 2002 00:39, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> lördagen den 23 november 2002 00.30 skrev Peter Ruskin:
> > On Friday 22 Nov 2002 23:15, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > > [Contrib-RPM]
> > >
> > > --=-=-=
> > > Name: clamav   Relocations: (not
> > > relocateable) Version : 0.54 
> > > Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 4mdk 
> > > Build Date: Sat Nov 23 00:01:51 2002 Install date: (not installed)
> > > Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group   : File tools
> > >Source RPM: (none) Size: 994183
> > > License: GPL
> > > Packager: Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > URL : http://clamav.elektrapro.com/
> > > Summary : An anti-virus utility for Unix.
> > > Description :
> > > Clam Antivirus is a powerful anti-virus scanner for Unix. It
> >
> > Surely this thing is not an anti-virus scanner but a virus scanner. 
> > It scans for viri, doesn't it?  Anti-virus utility is OK
> >
> > Peter
>
> "clamav" has a virtual provides as "virusscanner" and "AV-Scanner", and
> "clamd" has a  virtual provides as "virusscanner-daemon" and
> "AV-Scanner-Daemon". Is this ok? Personally I don't have a clue because
> Mandrake has never before had such a thing..., I'm only guessing here,
> and this sounded ok to me...
>
> But if you install for example Symantecs product on windows it's called
> Norton Anti-Virus, isn't it? What do they call the scanner then? Virus
> scanner or Anti-Virus scanner?

It's not a big deal but I would replace "anti-virus scanner" with "virus 
scanner" in the "Description:".  It's just more sensible English.

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] clamav-0.54-4mdk

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 22 Nov 2002 23:15, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> [Contrib-RPM]
>
> --=-=-=
> Name: clamav   Relocations: (not
> relocateable) Version : 0.54  Vendor:
> MandrakeSoft Release : 4mdk  Build Date:
> Sat Nov 23 00:01:51 2002 Install date: (not installed)  
> Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group   : File tools
>Source RPM: (none) Size: 994183  
> License: GPL
> Packager: Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://clamav.elektrapro.com/
> Summary : An anti-virus utility for Unix.
> Description :
> Clam Antivirus is a powerful anti-virus scanner for Unix. It

Surely this thing is not an anti-virus scanner but a virus scanner.  It 
scans for viri, doesn't it?  Anti-virus utility is OK

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Re: [Cooker] Removable Media Icon suggestion

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 22 Nov 2002 02:03, Jason Straight wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Can we please make something in /etc/sysconfig to turn this off/on so I
> don't have to edit /usr/bin/kdesktop-links all the time?
>
> In the words of my 3 yr old, "Pretty, Pretty Please :)"
>
> Thanks.
>
Have it read:
#!/bin/sh

# (c) 2001, 2002 - MandrakeSoft, David BAUDENS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Copyright under GPL version 2

# Basic script for KDE Desktop configuration

if [ ! -d $HOME/Desktop ]; then
mkdir -p $HOME/Desktop
fi

if [ ! -e $HOME/Desktop/.directory ]; then
cp -f /usr/share/mdk/kde/directory-desktop 
$HOME/Desktop/.directory
fi

/usr/bin/ArrangeIcons

...and that's all
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Re: [Cooker] fontconfig-2.0-5mdk wants to remove font path entries

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 16:57, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> Upon upgrading to fontconfig-2.0-5mdk, it wants to replace the lines:
>
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/ttf
>
> with:
>
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts

I have that same line using Gentoo as well.  Perhaps 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts finds all fonts recursively?  It ought to, 
because it only contains directories.

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Re: [Cooker] sdl stuff broken?

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 11 Nov 2002 12:18, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
> Peter Ruskin wrote:
> >On Sunday 10 Nov 2002 17:40, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
> >>Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
> >>>Sitsofe Wheeler wrote:
> >>>>On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> >>>>>On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 06:22:03 +0100
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Per Øyvind Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>hromium
> >>>>>>randomizing.
> >>>>>>SDL initialized.
> >>>>>>Couldn't set GL mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Runs fine for me with an ATI Radeon 64DDR amd Mesa, but fails
> >>>>>with the same error on a system with a GeForce2 am the NVIDIA
> >>>>>drivers.
> >
> >Despite the longer wait for release, many of these games were not
> >properly tested.  Here are my results on 9.0 with Geforce2 MX 400
> > and NVidia drivers:
> >$ abuse
> >Added himem block (3072000 bytes)
> >Memory available : 3071864
> >Abuse-SDL 0.6.1
> > Abuse (Version 2.00)
> >Sound : Disabled (couldn't find the sfx directory)
> >Specs : main file set to abuse.spe
> >No network driver, or network driver returned failure
> >Lisp : 527 symbols defined, 99 system functions, 319 pre-compiled
> >functions
> >Unable to open filename art/dev.spe for requested item c_mouse1
> >
> >( $ ll /usr/share/abuse/fRaBs210/art/dev.spe
> >-rw-r--r--1 root root13395 Aug 28  1995
> >/usr/share/abuse/fRaBs210/art/dev.spe )
> >
> >$ alephone
> >Aleph One 0.12.0
> >http://source.bungie.org/
> >Original code by Bungie Software <http://www.bungie.com/>
> >Additional work by Loren Petrich, Chris Pruett, Rhys Hill et al.
> >Expat XML library by James Clark
> >SDL port by Christian Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
> >You are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.
> >For details, see the file COPYING.
> >FATAL: Please be sure the files 'Map', 'Shapes', 'Images' and
> > 'Sounds' are correctly installed and try again. (error -1)
> >
> >chromium: OK - need `artsdsp chromium` to get sound.
> >
> >Peter
>
> try running abuse with: abuse -datadir /usr/share/abuse/fRaBs210
> I've sent this fix to lenny, just waits for him to check the new
> package:)

Thanks ... now I get the parachute :-(
$ abuse -datadir /usr/share/abuse/fRaBs210
Added himem block (3072000 bytes)
Memory available : 3071864
Abuse-SDL 0.6.1
 Abuse (Version 2.00)
Sound : Enabled
Specs : main file set to abuse.spe
Protocol Installed : UNIX generic TCPIP
Lisp : 529 symbols defined, 99 system functions, 321 pre-compiled 
functions
(load "abuse.lsp") [.   ]Fatal 
signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)

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Re: [Cooker] sdl stuff broken?

[Peter Ruskin]

On Sunday 10 Nov 2002 17:40, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
> Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
> > Sitsofe Wheeler wrote:
> >> On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 06:22:03 +0100
> >>>
> >>> Per Øyvind Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  hromium
>  randomizing.
>  SDL initialized.
>  Couldn't set GL mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
> >>>
> >>> Runs fine for me with an ATI Radeon 64DDR amd Mesa, but fails
> >>> with the same error on a system with a GeForce2 am the NVIDIA
> >>> drivers.
> >>
>
Despite the longer wait for release, many of these games were not 
properly tested.  Here are my results on 9.0 with Geforce2 MX 400 and 
NVidia drivers:
$ abuse
Added himem block (3072000 bytes)
Memory available : 3071864
Abuse-SDL 0.6.1
 Abuse (Version 2.00)
Sound : Disabled (couldn't find the sfx directory)
Specs : main file set to abuse.spe
No network driver, or network driver returned failure
Lisp : 527 symbols defined, 99 system functions, 319 pre-compiled 
functions
Unable to open filename art/dev.spe for requested item c_mouse1

( $ ll /usr/share/abuse/fRaBs210/art/dev.spe
-rw-r--r--1 root root13395 Aug 28  1995 
/usr/share/abuse/fRaBs210/art/dev.spe )

$ alephone
Aleph One 0.12.0
http://source.bungie.org/
Original code by Bungie Software 
Additional work by Loren Petrich, Chris Pruett, Rhys Hill et al.
Expat XML library by James Clark
SDL port by Christian Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
You are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.
For details, see the file COPYING.
FATAL: Please be sure the files 'Map', 'Shapes', 'Images' and 'Sounds' 
are correctly installed and try again. (error -1)

chromium: OK - need `artsdsp chromium` to get sound.

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Re: [Cooker] is there a problem with glibc 2.3.1 ?

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 17:43, Florent BERANGER wrote:
> > To answer the question in the title, yes there are problems with
> > glibc 2.3.1.  It can break a lot of stuff already built against
> > previous versions.
>
> What can it break ?
>
ncurses and python for a start ... I didn't stay with it for longer than 
that.

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Re: [Cooker] is there a problem with glibc 2.3.1 ?

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 15:43, Wesley J Landaker wrote:
> On Saturday 26 October 2002 08:26 am, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> > Florent BERANGER wrote:
> > > RedHat have it and C applications, as KDE, are faster, it's a
> > > known thing.
> >
> > Kde is c++ or am i wrong ?
> > And the fact that cooker kde is slow does not come from glibc...
> > look at the kde shipped in 9.0 it's really fast.
>
> All GCC C++ programs linked to glibc as well as libstdc++. Not to
> mention that most of the other libraries that KDE links to also
> depend on glibc. With extremely few exceptions, *every* program on
> your system uses glibc regardless of the language it's written in.
>
> Not to say that upgrading glibc is going to necessarily have a
> drastic effect on performance, but if you could only upgrade one
> library and wanted to get the most bang for your buck, glibc would be
> the one to pick. =)

To answer the question in the title, yes there are problems with glibc 
2.3.1.  It can break a lot of stuff already built against previous 
versions.  Red Hat has used a workaround - not a fix.  Gentoo has it in 
"unstable" (where it belongs).

I would advise against rushing into it.

Peter
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Re: [Cooker] OSNews Review

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 19 Oct 2002 19:37, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > to port to GTK2. GTK2 has a different (better) file selection
> > dialog. Try opening a file from a GTK 2 app (Xchat 1.9 or
> > something), you'll see the difference.
>
> Hum you probably mean gnome2?
>
> As for me it doesn't look much different from the old one:
>
> http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/files/gtk2filesel.png

...looks like a dinosaur to me.  There's none so blind as those that 
won't see.
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Re: [Cooker] OSNews Review

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 19 Oct 2002 00:12, andre wrote:
> On Friday 18 October 2002 21:42, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > - you can't install a bootloader on a XFS partition, and.. no one
> >   except a few distro reviewers do that :-(
>
> The are poeple who use the nt windows bootselector. Then you have to
> install lilo also on the root partition

Ditto for those using Acronis OS Selector (like me) or Partition Magic, 
exect I install on the boot partition (not mounted by default).

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.1-0.beta2.5mdk

[Peter Ruskin]

On Sunday 13 Oct 2002 18:36, Wesley J Landaker wrote:
> On Sunday 13 October 2002 10:48 am, Michael Braun wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a small problem with the new KDE3.1BETA2, too. KMIX is
> > brocken on my computer. Attached yo will find the report of the KDE
> > Crash Manager:
>
> I also get kmix crashing (latest cooker) when I try to run it.
> (Before anybody asks, SOUND in general is working fine in the KDE
> 3.1beta -- arts works fine, system notifications, window sounds,
> everything. Just not kmix).
>
> The backtrace from the KDE Crash Handler says:
>
> 0x40ec3739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
> #0  0x40ec3739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
> #1  0x40f40340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
> #2  0x40d2ca73 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0
> #3  0x4039a532 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) (sig=6) at
> kcrash.cpp:235
>
>
> I do get a bit more info if I run it from the command line (from
> stdout):
>
> kmix: Number of drivers : 2
> kmix: Mixer_ALSA::openMixer - Enter
> kmix: ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found.
> Please check that the soundcard is installed and that
> the soundcard driver is loaded.
> kmix:
> kmix: ERROR: kmix:You do not have permission to access the mixer
> device. Please check your operating systems manual to allow the
> access. kmix: control.c:224: snd_ctl_card_info: Assertion `ctl &&
> info' failed. ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
>
>
>
> The "no permission" error for the mixer obviously is wrong:

I would try `chmod g+rw /dev/sound/*`
>
> $ ll /dev/sound
> total 0
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,   4 Dec 31  1969 audio
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,   3 Dec 31  1969 dsp
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,  19 Dec 31  1969 dsp1
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,   5 Dec 31  1969 dspW
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,   2 Dec 31  1969 midi
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,  18 Dec 31  1969 midi1
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,   0 Dec 31  1969 mixer
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,   1 Dec 31  1969 sequencer
> crw---1 wjl  audio 14,   8 Dec 31  1969 sequencer2
>
> kmix has always worked fine in cooker, right up until the KDE3.1
> beta. =)

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Re: [Cooker] Root and /

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 08 Oct 2002 12:25, Pixel wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Saturday 05 Oct 2002 17:37, Bob Walker wrote:
> > > According to Version 2.2 of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
> > > (FHS), /root is not a requirement - it is optional. However, if
> > > the root directory is used, it must be in /. 'root' CAN exist as
> > > a link to a directory or as a mounted partition.
> > >
> > > bob
> >
> > There.  Thanks Bob.  So there is no reason why /root should not be
> > on a separate partition - just as I thought.  Pixel, can you now
> > change the installer to allow this?
>
> I'll have it be a warning instead of an error.

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Re: [Cooker] Root and /

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 05 Oct 2002 17:37, Bob Walker wrote:
> According to Version 2.2 of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS),
> /root is not a requirement - it is optional. However, if the root
> directory is used, it must be in /. 'root' CAN exist as a link to a
> directory or as a mounted partition.
>
> bob
>
There.  Thanks Bob.  So there is no reason why /root should not be on a 
separate partition - just as I thought.  Pixel, can you now change the 
installer to allow this?

> On Saturday 05 October 2002 03:46 am, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > On Friday 04 Oct 2002 02:43, Dave Seff wrote:
> > > Why must /root be on the same file system as / ?
> > >
> > > I keep mine separate as not to wipe out ssh keys and other
> > > things. I can change it after the initial install  and all is
> > > fine, but the installer complains.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just wondering.
> > > -Dave
> >
> > I asked this and Pixel responded by requesting a good reason for
> > allowing /root to have its own partition.  My reason is that it is
> > root's home and I don't want it wiped when I reinstall.  I've
> > always worked like that.  Who decided that it's taboo?
> >
> > /root on my 9.0 machine is now on its own partition, just as in my
> > other unices.  I have yet to see a good reason given for
> > disallowing this on install - to me it's draconian interference.
> >
> > Peter

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Re: [Cooker] Root and /

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 04 Oct 2002 02:43, Dave Seff wrote:
> Why must /root be on the same file system as / ?
>
> I keep mine separate as not to wipe out ssh keys and other things. I
> can change it after the initial install  and all is fine, but the
> installer complains.
>
>
> Just wondering.
> -Dave

I asked this and Pixel responded by requesting a good reason for 
allowing /root to have its own partition.  My reason is that it is 
root's home and I don't want it wiped when I reinstall.  I've always 
worked like that.  Who decided that it's taboo?

/root on my 9.0 machine is now on its own partition, just as in my other 
unices.  I have yet to see a good reason given for disallowing this on 
install - to me it's draconian interference.

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Re: [Cooker] Midnight Commander problems

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 03 Oct 2002 00:24, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 Oct 2002 22:45, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Michal Bukovjan wrote:
> > > Felix Miata wrote:
> > > > Michal Bukovjan wrote:
> > > >>When logged into a console as normal user (michal, uid 501),
> > > >> running Midnight Commander barfs at me this message:
> > > >>
> > > >>warning: [gpm.c(857)]:
> > > >>
> > > >>Failed gpm connect attempt by uid 501 for vc /dev/vc/0
> > > >>
> > > >>last=/home/flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > > >>   home/flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > > >>   flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > > >>RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > > >>  BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > > >> gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > > >>   src/liblow.c
> > > >> liblow.c
> > > >>   info: [liblow.c(446)]:
> > > >>   Warning: closing connection
>
> [snip]
>
> > > >>Midnight Commander works OK when logged in a console as root or
> > > >> for any user under X terminal.
>
> [snip]
>
> Not just Mandrake.  I've just reported this bug with Gentoo.  The
> culprit looks like liblow.c of gpm-1.20.0.  I'm using framebuffer
> vga=791 and have a PS/2 optical mouse.
>
I just did...
# chgrp users /dev/misc/psaux 
...then rebooted and mc works OK as a user on the text console.  
However, the mouse has no effect, so although mc doesn't segfault it 
isn't very useful.

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Re: [Cooker] Midnight Commander problems

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 02 Oct 2002 22:45, Felix Miata wrote:
> Michal Bukovjan wrote:
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> > > Michal Bukovjan wrote:
> > >>When logged into a console as normal user (michal, uid 501),
> > >> running Midnight Commander barfs at me this message:
> > >>
> > >>warning: [gpm.c(857)]:
> > >>
> > >>Failed gpm connect attempt by uid 501 for vc /dev/vc/0
> > >>
> > >>last=/home/flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > >>   home/flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > >>   flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > >>RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > >>  BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > >> gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c
> > >>   src/liblow.c
> > >> liblow.c
> > >>   info: [liblow.c(446)]:
> > >>   Warning: closing connection
> > >>
[snip]
> > >>
> > >>Midnight Commander works OK when logged in a console as root or
> > >> for any user under X terminal.
> > >
[snip]
> >
> > I have vga=788. So I rebooted to linux-nonfb (no vga=788) and all
> > hell broke loose!
>
> I made no suggestion to add anything to your kernel line. What
> possessed you to try nonfb? Try as I suggested, neither nonfb nor
> vga=788. As long as you are trying, try vga=785 & vga=791 as well.
>
> > I have Athlon 1GHz, MSI K7T Turbo (VIA KT133A chipset), ATI All in
> > Wonder Radeon QD, 265MB RAM
>
> So this has little or nothing to do with hardware. All the machines I
> see this on are K6/2 with ET6x00 video.
>
> > Needless to say, this worked OK in MDK8.2.
>
> I just booted to runlevel 1 with vga=788, and was reminded that
[snip]

Not just Mandrake.  I've just reported this bug with Gentoo.  The 
culprit looks like liblow.c of gpm-1.20.0.  I'm using framebuffer 
vga=791 and have a PS/2 optical mouse.

Peter
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - KMail stops checking mail

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 19:09, Tim Stoop wrote:
> Hi peeps,
>
> Symptom: After about 30 minutes (haven't timed it, really), KMail
> doesn't automagically check mail anymore. Also, pressing the "Check
> mail" button or choosing it from the menu, doesn't seem to give any
> respons. KMail doesn't start checking.
>
> Even after I quit the program en restart it, it doesn't check mail
> directly. But... when I open a Konsole and start KMail from there, it
> works again.
>
> Maybe it should be reported to KDE, but I wanted to check with you
> guys and gals first. Is this a bug, a feature or a 'known behaviour'?

WorksForMe :-)  As you have probably discovered, `kmail --check` from 
konsole opens kmail and immediately checks for new mail.  For regular 
checking, look at Settings -> Configure KMail -> Network -> Receiving 
-> (select account) -> Modify -> Enable interval mail checking.

Regards,
Peter
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Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 18:53, Robert Fox wrote:
> I always leave Gkrellm running on my KDE desktop - and recently
> (updated to 9.0 Final) everything was fine.
>
> Now when I log out of KDE and re-login as same user - Gkrellm starts
> up twice (two instances)
>
> I recall this happening way back on KDE 2.2.2 but haven't seen it
> until now.
>
> Anybody?
>
> Thx,
> R.Fox

Perhaps you have it in autostart and also saved the session when you 
logged out.

This is my /usr/share/autostart/gkrellm.desktop (I don't save sessions):

[Desktop Entry]
Comment=A GTK-based monitoring app
Comment[en_GB]=A GTK-based monitoring app
Comment[en]=A GTK-based monitoring app
Exec=kstart --alldesktops --skiptaskbar --skippager --ontop --type \ 
Override "gkrellm -g +0+0"
Icon=/usr/kde/3/share/icons/gkrellm.png
Name=Gkrellm
Name[en_GB]=Gkrellm
Name[en]=Gkrellm
Terminal=false
Type=Application
X-KDE-StartupNotify=true
X-KDE-autostart-after=kdesktop

... that puts gkrellm top-left, on-top, on every desktop without 
sacrificing and taskbar space.

HTH,
Peter
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 contrib: SearchAndRescue

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 11:33, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Le Mardi 1 Octobre 2002 03:35, Peter Ruskin a écrit :
> >  /usr/games/SearchAndRescue
> > Unable to find a suitable X Visual.
> >
> > Please verify that you have an X Visual suitable for OpenGL
> > rendering by running "xdpyinfo". Also note that defining multiple
> > Visuals may confuse the selection of a proper Visual (in which case
> > try defining only one Visual.
> >
> > hmmm, quake runs fine here and this worked in 8.2.
> >
> > $ rpm -qa|grep SearchAndRescue
> > SearchAndRescue-0.7.20-2mdk
> >
> > $ xdpyinfo
>
> [..]
>
> > Anybody any clues, please?
>
> Try glxinfo, it's more specific to 3D.

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX_SGIX_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce2 MX/AGP/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 1.3.1 NVIDIA 29.60
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_compression,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_S3_s3tc, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra,
GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract,
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, 
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_paletted_texture, 
GL_EXT_point_parameters,
GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette,
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc,
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
GL_EXT_texture_lod, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object,
GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_weighting,
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_KTX_buffer_region, 
GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_evaluators, GL_NV_fence, GL_NV_fog_distance,
GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil,
GL_NV_register_combiners, GL_NV_texgen_emboss, 
GL_NV_texgen_reflection,
GL_NV_texture_env_combine4, GL_NV_texture_rectangle,
GL_NV_vertex_array_range, GL_NV_vertex_array_range2, 
GL_NV_vertex_program,
GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, 
GL_SGIS_multitexture,
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
--
0x21 16 tc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x22 16 dc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x23 16 tc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x24 16 dc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None

>
> What about other accelerated apps ? Did you try gears (from Mesa
> demos) for instance ?

$ gears
10214 frames in  5.000 seconds = 2042.800 FPS
10478 frames in  5.000 seconds = 2095.600 FPS
8264 frames in  5.005 seconds = 1651.149 FPS
726 frames in  5.002 seconds = 145.142 FPS

The 145.142 FPS was full-screen at 1280x1024.  Like I said, Q2demo works 
fine.

Regards,
Peter
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0: audacity-1.0.0-3mdk needs libstdc++.so.4

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 08:17, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > rpmdrake says:
> > Conflicts detected:
> > libstdc++.so.4 is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
> > libstdc++.so.4(GLIBCPP_3.1) is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
> > Install aborted
>
> AFAICS, audacity is not in 9.0. All packages with broken/inexistent
> dependencies are automagically nuked when creating the CDs.

$ locate audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
/mnt/downloads/Mandrake/9.0/contrib/SRPMS/audacity-1.0.0-3mdk.src.rpm
/mnt/downloads/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/audacity-1.0.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
/mnt/downloads/Mandrake-devel/contrib/SRPMS/audacity-1.0.0-3mdk.src.rpm

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0: audacity-1.0.0-3mdk needs libstdc++.so.4

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 08:22, Götz Waschk wrote:
> Am Montag, 30. September 2002, 23:01:22 Uhr MET, schrieb Peter Ruskin:
> > rpmdrake says:
> > Conflicts detected:
> > libstdc++.so.4 is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
> > libstdc++.so.4(GLIBCPP_3.1) is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
> > Install aborted
>
> Try hackaudacity. The audacity package doesn't build on Mandrake 9.0.

OK, thanks Götz
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Re: [Cooker] devfsd.conf

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 06:38, Peter Polman wrote:
> On Monday 30 Sep 2002 2:04 pm, Biagio Lucini wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Now that 9.0 is out ...
> > >
> > > Minor spelling corrections in English version.
> > >
> > >
> > > Initialize not initialise
> > > Minimize not minimise
> > > Maximize not maximise
> >
> > Did you say English or American? :-)
> >
> > Biagio
>
> Hopefully English ...
>
> We Canadians tend to speak a little of both though!
> I have seen initialisation and initialization but not initialise (I
> know it doesn't make sense, but ...)
> I have never seen minimise or maximise. Are these supposed to be
> English or American spellings?

Concise Oxford Dictionary allows both.  These days it seems to prefer 
the "-ize" spelling but I resist that advice.
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[Cooker] 9.0 contrib: SearchAndRescue

[Peter Ruskin]

 /usr/games/SearchAndRescue
Unable to find a suitable X Visual.

Please verify that you have an X Visual suitable for OpenGL rendering
by running "xdpyinfo". Also note that defining multiple Visuals
may confuse the selection of a proper Visual (in which case try defining
only one Visual.

hmmm, quake runs fine here and this worked in 8.2.

$ rpm -qa|grep SearchAndRescue
SearchAndRescue-0.7.20-2mdk

$ xdpyinfo
name of display::0.0
version number:11.0
vendor string:Mandrake Linux (XFree86 4.2.1, patch level 3mdk)
vendor release number:40201000
XFree86 version: 4.2.1
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:7
supported pixmap formats:
depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x2800068, revert to PointerRoot
number of extensions:30
BIG-REQUESTS
DEC-XTRAP
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
Extended-Visual-Information
FontCache
GLX
LBX
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
NV-CONTROL
NV-GLX
NVIDIA-GLX
RECORD
RENDER
SECURITY
SHAPE
SYNC
TOG-CUP
XC-APPGROUP
XC-MISC
XFree86-Bigfont
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-Misc
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
XVideo
default screen number:0
number of screens:1

screen #0:
  dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (301x226 millimeters)
  resolution:108x115 dots per inch
  depths (7):16, 1, 4, 8, 15, 24, 32
  root window id:0x62
  depth of root window:16 planes
  number of colormaps:minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:0x20
  default number of colormap cells:64
  preallocated pixels:black 0, white 65535
  options:backing-store YES, save-unders YES
  largest cursor:32x32
  current input event mask:0xd84031
KeyPressMask EnterWindowMask  LeaveWindowMask
KeymapStateMask  SubstructureNotifyMask   
SubstructureRedirectMask
PropertyChangeMask   ColormapChangeMask
  number of visuals:4
  default visual id:  0x21
  visual:
visual id:0x21
class:TrueColor
depth:16 planes
available colormap entries:64 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0x22
class:DirectColor
depth:16 planes
available colormap entries:64 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0x23
class:TrueColor
depth:16 planes
available colormap entries:64 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0x24
class:DirectColor
depth:16 planes
available colormap entries:64 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
significant bits in color specification:8 bits

Anybody any clues, please?
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - Voodoo 3 - "No devices detected"

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 00:15, Ben Reser wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:54:38AM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote:
> > You know how often I disagree with your ill-mannered statements, so
> > stop trying to lay your odd ideas on me, please.
> >
> I'm not trying to lay my odd ideas on you.  I'm telling you to take
> what clearly looks like a support issue to the expert list.

You should stop being such a prat Ben.  I for one am getting tired of 
this constant carping and drivel from you ... just who do you think 
*you* are?
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[Cooker] 9.0: audacity-1.0.0-3mdk needs libstdc++.so.4

[Peter Ruskin]

rpmdrake says:
Conflicts detected:
libstdc++.so.4 is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
libstdc++.so.4(GLIBCPP_3.1) is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
Install aborted
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Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin under MDK 9.0/Cooker

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 27 Sep 2002 18:20, Curtis H wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 14:09, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi,
> >   I was just wondering if there was any chance MDK might have an
> > unsupported 9.0 kernel that has Win4Lin extentions included? Since
> > MandrakeSoft sells Win4Lin, I thought perhaps there might be an
> > update available...
> >
> >   If not, has anyone tried patching a 9.0 kernel to work with
> > Win4Lin? Any problems?
>
> The last kernel I applied the Win4Lin patches to was for the last of
> the 2.4.18 series.  I hacked up my own w4l kernel RPM from
> 2.4.18-21mdk. I'll try to do it again with the 9.0 kernel RPM.

New kernels for 9.0 are on the Netraverse web page.
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Re: [Cooker] myodbc mandrake

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 23 Sep 2002 10:58, Buchan Milne wrote:
> tarvid wrote:
> > Good grief. It was just a ploy to get attentiion.
>
> It's not necessary to be demanding and almost rude to get attention.
> I haven't seen any requests for myODBC at all (at least since May,
> which is as far as my cooker mailbox goes atm).
>
> > Yes, it is the mysql.com RPM marked as "RedHat". I looked at two at
> > rpmfind and urpmi reported bad signatures.
> >
> > Yes, I have been flailing and things are messy here.
>
> I have an RPM that compiles fine, and should be ok, but I haven't had
> a chance to test it. I will put it up somewhere for you, and in the
> mean time try and test it and get it into contrib.
>
> Here, try these:
>
> http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/MyODBC-2.50.39-1mdk.i586.r
>pm
> http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/MyODBC-2.50.39-1mdk.src.rp
>m
>
> > isql will execute sql commands on a remote mysql server. The key
> > bindings suck and a newline marks the end of a command but
> > otherwise it looks rather like mysql. Without the myodbc driver,
> > isql simply hangs with no output on a readline. I managed to get a
> > seg fault on one version I tried.
>
> isql?
I thought myodbc needed iodbc of which I think isql is a part
>
> > DataManager survives to the login when I try to list tables.
> >
> > OO calc does the same.
> >
> > I think a functioning OO MS Access like facility would be fantastic
> > and will contribute significant effor to get there..
>
> Agreed, and a frontend for MySQL would also be cool, I guess I should
> take another look at MyCC also.
>
Knoda now works fine with gcc-3.2.  Version 0.5.4 of knoda and 
hk_classes should be released about now. I know this because I was 
involved in the testing.
 
http://hk-classes.sourceforge.net/hk_classes-0.5.4.tar.gz
http://hk-classes.sourceforge.net/knoda-0.5.4.tar.gz

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Re: [Cooker] myodbc mandrake

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 23 Sep 2002 00:11, Buchan Milne wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, tarvid wrote:
> > I have it working sort of.
>
> > a royal mess
>
> Of your own making ...
>
> Now what should I do with the SRPM of MyODBC I have been working on?
> Doesn't sound like you're interested in fixing this ... so maybe I
> shouldn't put it into contrib, and just use it internally ...
>
Oh, yes please Buchan.  I've made a few failed attempts at building 
MyODBC from tarballs.  The failures look to my _untrained_ eye like 
gcc-3.2 problems.
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[Cooker] RC3: DrakX network setup won't allow NULL gateway

[Peter Ruskin]

This is a new bug introduced by RC3.

The dialog says something like "enter gateway if you want one" but if you 
leave it blank it tells you "format is 1.2.3.4" and will not go any 
further in the install until you give it one.

My connection to the outside world is via SpeedTouch ADSL USB modem so I 
_never_ give gateway info on installs.
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[Cooker] RC3: bash: TMOUT: readonly variable bug *still* there

[Peter Ruskin]

The cure:
rpm -e msec
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Re: [Cooker] PS2 mouse problem during install

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 17 Sep 2002 09:24, Buchan Milne wrote:
> John & Rebecca wrote:
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I have a problem with the mouse testing during Mandrake install
> > which has been around since I've been using Mandrake at v7.0. I've
> > had the same problem on 5 different computers and 4 or 5 different
> > mice (all PS2 tho). I currently have a Logitech MouseMan Wheel
> > "Laser" mouse.
> >
> > During install I have no problems using the mouse until it comes
> > time to test the mouse config. Every time, I select a mouse config
> > from the list, click OK to test the mouse, and everything goes
> > wacky: the pointer moves to a corner of the test area, buttons
> > start flashing as if they are being repeatedly hit. I must Tab and
> > Enter to go back to choose a different mouse. I have to go back and
> > forth and do this 3 or 4 times before things finally work
> > correctly. (And yes, I have made sure to move the wheel first.)
^  
>
> What happens if you:
> 1)read the instructions
> 2)Scroll the wheel as the first thing you do (assuming you have a
> wheel).

I think you should read before answering
>
> This has only been an issue with the Genius Netscroll, and it
> (scrolling the wheel first) does the trick every time. Logitech
> Mouseman+ PS2 doens't exhibit this, nor does MS Intellimouse PS2.

Wrong.  I have an Intellimouse Optical PS/2 that works fine with 8.2 
(kudzu?) but acts wildly with gpm with all 9.0 betas and rcs.  After a 
few reboots it seems to sort itself out but it's no use pretending 
there's nothing wrong
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Re: [Cooker] RC2: bash: TMOUT: readonly variable bug *still* there

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 10 Sep 2002 11:58, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 04:45:41PM +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > bash: TMOUT: readonly variable
> > > [14:51 peter@penguin: ~]
> > > $
> > >
> > > This is an old bug that keeps coming back.
> >
> > No the bug is not back...  You have something messed up in your own
> > personal config scripts in your homedir.  Try making a new user and
> > logging in as that user.  I'm willing to be you can't replicate it
> > if you do that.
>
> Or maybe you have some .rpmnew files lying around.
>
> # rpmdrake --merge-all-rpmnew
> may help.

That was it - thanks.  I had a nice new /etc/sysconfig/msec.rpmnew which 
is empty - that will do fine.
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Re: [Cooker] RC2: bash: TMOUT: readonly variable bug *still* there

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 10 Sep 2002 06:36, Ben Reser wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 04:45:41PM +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > bash: TMOUT: readonly variable
> > [14:51 peter@penguin: ~]
> > $
> >
> > This is an old bug that keeps coming back.
>
> No the bug is not back...  You have something messed up in your own
> personal config scripts in your homedir.  Try making a new user and
> logging in as that user.  I'm willing to be you can't replicate it if
> you do that.

You said that before, Ben.  It isn't true.  This happens with all users, 
including a new one.  It's caused by the last line in 
/etc/profile.d/msec.sh
[ -n "$TMOUT" ] && typeset -r TMOUT
If I comment that the message goes away.
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[Cooker] 9.0 RC2: typos

[Peter Ruskin]

In advertising stuff:
Get the most from the Internet
"the best softwares for you" --> "the best software for you"

Become a MandrakeExpert
"and help your others" --> "and help others"

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[Cooker] 9.0 RC2 : gpm still broken

[Peter Ruskin]

Expert upgrade - beta4 -> RC2

1.  gpm broken on tty1-6; works OK in konsole.  I have an M$ Intellimouse 
optical, using PS/2 connection.  This has always worked when setup as 
generic PS/2 wheel mouse -- until RC1.  RC2 is the same.  I tried 
choosing Explorer but that doesn't work either.  On tty1-6 I get a white 
bar at the top of the screen, can't select any text and the wheel just 
scrolls command history.
In konsole:
# gpm
[14:24 root@penguin: ~]
# oops(): [gpn.c(195)]:
gpm is already running as pid 26526
# service gpm stop
Shutting down console mouse services:  [  OK  ]
[14:26 root@penguin: ~]
# service gpm start
Starting console mouse services:   [  OK  ]
On tty1:
# service gpm stop
Shutting down console mouse services:  [  OK  ]
[14:26 root@penguin: ~]
# service gpm start
Starting console mouse services: === ERROR ===: [mice.c(1755)]:
imps2: Autodetected unknown mouse type 4, assuming standard PS/2
=== ERROR ===: [mice.c(1755)]:
imps2: Autodetected unknown mouse type 4, assuming standard PS/2

This all started when the Explorer was added to mousedrake  
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[Cooker] RC2: bash: TMOUT: readonly variable bug *still* there

[Peter Ruskin]

bash: TMOUT: readonly variable
[14:51 peter@penguin: ~]
$

This is an old bug that keeps coming back.
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Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0-beta4: ADSL connection problem

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 07 Sep 2002 02:40, gonfer gas wrote:
> Hi u guys...
> Finally i could get ing kde, when i was in, tried to
> connect to internet but it told me that there was no
> connection. Checked if it existed an IP address, and
> there it was. So tried the net_monitor.real , it said
> that there were no connection, so tried to reconnect
> with the button, but i got a message: "ADSL-start:
> there already seems to be an adsl connection up
> (PID:)". I used the adsl-stop, and then the
> adsl-connect, it connected and gave me an IP, but
> again when tried to connect, netscape said that there
> were no connections up.
> Does anyone had the same problem?
>
> Another thing; when i upgraded, the links on the
> desktop didn't updated, because there were the same
> links of the mdk8.1
>
> Ok guys, hope to hear from you soon.
> c-ya
>
Is shorewall installed?  If so, either configure it or disable it, then 
try again.  It was that on my box that was blocking all packets, so 
although gkrellm said ppp0 was up I couldn't get anywhere.
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Re: [Cooker] [Fwd: Typo in license agreement]

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 06 Sep 2002 15:55, Wesley J Landaker wrote:
> On Friday 06 September 2002 04:26 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 06:30, Quel Qun wrote:
> > > Since then I also noticed during the install the description of
> > > partmon service: "Checks if a partition is close to full up".
> > >
> > > Please check, but I think "is close to fill up" would sound
> > > better. or "is getting full".
> >
> > Nope. "Is close to full up" is fine, and standard English usage.
> > You could also use "Is close to being full" or even just "Is nearly
> > full", but "Close to full up" is just fine.
>
> It's grammatically correct, yes, but it certainly sounds *extremely*
> odd to a native English speaker from the US. =)
Are you sure there is such a thing?  ;-p
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Re: [Cooker] Intel 845 USB and Support, and some unanswered Bugzillas

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 05 Sep 2002 17:14, Sitsofe Wheeler wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Ben Reser wrote:
> > Now the Mandrake folks (Warly especially) will chime in that most
> > of the bug reports are worthless and that they don't have time to
> > sit around and read them.  But I have to wonder.  How is it that
> > KDE and Mozilla among numerous other projects have time to deal
<...>
> I can understand why Mandrake's Bugzilla was closed up. I don't have
> to be happy about it but I can understand why it happend. Unless you
> have a very dedicated (and big) team perpertually grooming the thing
> bug databases become hair balls very quickly.

Not true.  Just have a look at Gentoo.  Small team of dedicated devs.  
Extremely responsive bugzilla, lists amd forums.
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[Cooker] 9.0 RC1 install

[Peter Ruskin]

Expert upgrade - beta4 -> RC1

1.  In package selection there is a lot of "OpenOffice.org-l10n-" where
you can't read the whole entry.  It can be read OK in flat list view.
I suggest you rename (for DrakX only) to OOo-l10n-...

2.  No test page appeared from the printer *again* but on first boot, when
the message "Checking internet connection to start at boot" appears,
the printer miraculously comes to life and produces the test page.  It
seems like DrakX summary stage doesn't actually start the printer?

3.  "Updates" at end of install doesn't do anything - that's OK but it
should tell you, like "Nothing for me to do ... maybe next time."

4.  DrakConf/mcc not working
# drakconf
gdk-pixbuf loibrary is unavaillable at /usr/lib/libDrakX/ugtk.pm line 748.
(spelling correction)...
gdk-pixbuf library is unavailable at /usr/lib/libDrakX/ugtk.pm line 748.

5.  gpm does all sorts of daft stuff ( command history scrolls with mouse
move )
gpm[30211]: oops(): [/home/flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/gpn.c(195)]:
gpm[30211]: gpm is already running as pid 30130

gpm[30299]: === ERROR ===: 
[/home/flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/mice.c(1727)]:
gpm[30299]: imps2: PS/2 mouse failed init
gpm[30299]: oops(): [/home/flepied/RPM/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/gpm.c(968)]:
gpm[30299]: mouse initialization failed

6.  As reported for beta4, if shorewall is selected for install it blocks
*everything* before it's configured.  So on first boot gkrellm tells
me ppp0 is up but I can't connect anywhere.  Either shorewall should
allow everything by default or Mandrake should warn potential users
to configure before enabling shorewall.  It ought to be trivial to
supply a "first configuration" setup that allows all packets, which
appears to the user the same as before the install.

7.  OpenOffice is just wonderful.

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Re: [Cooker] xboard default board size far too big

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 21:52, Alastair Scott wrote:
> As per the subject; it is too large even for 1280x1024 resolution as
> the board top vanishes under the Gnome menu and the bottom lies below
> the bottom of the screen.
>
> This can be fixed by changing the menu item trigger from
>
> /usr/bin/xboard
>
> to
>
> /usr/bin/xboard -size Small
>
> which gives a board (I estimate) about 400 pixels tall.
>
> Alastair

/usr/bin/xboard -size Huge looks OK at 1280x1024
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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake "maximum informations"

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 16:26, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm happy to do proofreading on anything anyone wants to send me, for
> > what it's worth. I'm a native English speaker, and I get good grades.
> > =)
>
> Very good! You're precious.
>
> Right after 9.0 going gold (in 2/3 weeks from now..), we can
> break all the translations, rewording some stuff (the best is
> when it's only an english typo, we can even substitute the
> strings directly in the po's so that the translations are not
> broken).
>
> I'll bug you then :-).

bug me too if you like :-)
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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake "maximum informations"

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 10:56, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Elliott Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm not sure if I'm the only one having this problem, but with

> > on another note, informations is not a word. Perhaps something like
> > 'full rpm details' or the like.
>
> What do you mean by "is not a word"? I mean, it's part of the
> dictionary..
>
> Hmm, I don't sort of love "full rpm details" but I could use it
> if no one has a better suggestion?
>
Just remove the final "s".  There is no plural form for information.
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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.0.3-27mdk

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 28 Aug 2002 14:30, Laurent MONTEL wrote:
> --=-=-=
> Name: kdebase  Relocations: (not
> relocateable) Version : 3.0.3 Vendor:
> MandrakeSoft Release : 27mdk Build Date:
> Wed Aug 28 15:15:00 2002 Install date: (not installed)  
> Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group   : Graphical desktop/KDE
> Source RPM: (none) Size: 12144098
> License: GPL
> Packager: Mandrake Linux KDE Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://www.kde.org/
> Summary : K Desktop Environment - Core files
> Description :
> Core applications for the K Desktop Environment.
>
> --=-=-=
>
> * Wed Aug 28 2002 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3.0.3-27mdk
>
> - Fix source106 don't lock screensaver by default.
> - Remove requires on krozat (make happy Pixel)

Makes me happy too ;-)

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Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 install: KDE file sorting

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 28 Aug 2002 12:58, Nora Etukudo wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 10:27:58PM -0500, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> > COOL!  You solved it better than I did!
> >
> > On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 20:09, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > export LC_COLLATE=POSIX
> >
> > When I was trying to solve this, I thought I had gone through every
> > LC_ variable and unset it, did an ls, then on to the next.  I totally
> > missed LC_COLLATE.  That is the ONLY one that needs to be set to "C"
> > or "POSIX".
> >
> > THANK YOU!!!  Now I don't have to hack my X11 startup scripts
> > anymore, just need to set that in /etc/sysconfig/i18n.
>
> Thank you very, very much!
>
> That's what I needed since Mandrake 8.0!
>
> One can say it not enough:
>
># setenv LC_COLLATE posix
>
> Thank's again.
>
> Liebe Grüße, Nora.

/me blushes
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Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 install: KDE file sorting

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 28 Aug 2002 04:27, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> COOL!  You solved it better than I did!
>
> On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 20:09, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > export LC_COLLATE=POSIX
>
> When I was trying to solve this, I thought I had gone through every LC_
> variable and unset it, did an ls, then on to the next.  I totally
> missed LC_COLLATE.  That is the ONLY one that needs to be set to "C" or
> "POSIX".
>
> THANK YOU!!!  Now I don't have to hack my X11 startup scripts anymore,
> just need to set that in /etc/sysconfig/i18n.

You're welcome.  I thank you again for putting me on the right track.
>
> > You're absolutely right Lonnie.  Thanks for that information and my
> > apologies for falsely maligning Mandrake.  What I do now is add the
> > following lines to /etc/profile:
> > export LANG=en_GB
> > export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
> > export LC_MESSAGES=en_GB
> > export LC_MONETARY=en_GB
> > export LC_TIME=en_GB
> > export LC_COLLATE=POSIX
>
> All you have to do is put all that into /etc/sysconfig/i18n so all
> things on the system that set locales will see it - not everything uses
> /etc/profile.
>
That's what I'll do with Mandrake.  My gentoo box doesn't use 
/etc/sysconfig/i18n - that's why I put it in /etc/profile for now.
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Re: [Cooker] anti-aliasing in OpenOffice.org

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 27 Aug 2002 17:30, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> On 27 Aug 2002, Frederik Himpe wrote:
> > Could OpenOffice.org be set by default to use anti-aliasing only for
> > 20px and higher?
>
> Yes, but I need other users' opinion first.

I'm happy with it as it is -- it's very easy to change after install 
anyway.  Odd that OpenOffice.org uses pixels instead of points for this 
setting.
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Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 install: KDE file sorting

[Peter Ruskin]

On Sunday 25 Aug 2002 17:53, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 07:46, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > KDE file sorting.  I like to see traditional UNIX file sorting, like
> > .X  .a  X  a
> > ...but I've never been able to make that setting stick in konqueror.
> > It's an old KDE bug (reported) that goes back to KDE 2.0 but nobody
> > bothers to fix.  However, now we have a Mandrake KDE bug that sorts
> > a  .b  W  .X  Y
> > ...which is _very_ annoying.
>
> Been there, dealt with that.  It's a locales issue, and at a level
> lower than KDE.  If you log in to the command line, you'll see the same
> behavior.
>
> If you unset the LC_* and LANG variables, then the sorting will be the
> "traditional" way.  My guess is that it is done this way to be nicer to
> people moving from Windows, where W and w are considered equivalent.
>
> Initially (in the cooker time-frame before 8.0), I just zeroed out the
> /etc/sysconfig/i18n file.  However, I seem to remember that messed with
> my font sizes in Gnome apps I ran.  So, I made changes to /etc/profile
> to not run /etc/profile.d/*lang.sh, and then went into /etc/X11 and
> commented out lines in Xsession and prefdm that sourced in the
> /etc/profile.d/*lang.sh file.  Logged in again, and all was well.
>
> It's been a while so I may not remember everything I did, but now my
> sorting is "traditional".
>
> Of course, this is English specific.
>
You're absolutely right Lonnie.  Thanks for that information and my 
apologies for falsely maligning Mandrake.  What I do now is add the 
following lines to /etc/profile:
export LANG=en_GB
export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
export LC_MESSAGES=en_GB
export LC_MONETARY=en_GB
export LC_TIME=en_GB
export LC_COLLATE=POSIX
... and then `locale` gives me:
$ locale
LANG=en_GB
LC_CTYPE="en_GB"
LC_NUMERIC="en_GB"
LC_TIME=en_GB
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY=en_GB
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB
LC_PAPER="en_GB"
LC_NAME="en_GB"
LC_ADDRESS="en_GB"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB"
LC_ALL=

...and my sorting is in order again.
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Re: [Cooker] beta4 and NVidia drivers

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 26 Aug 2002 16:34, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Aurélien Bompard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >From a fresh cooker install, I had to add
> >
> > alias /dev/nvidia*   NVdriver
> >
> > manually to /etc/modules.conf
>
> is this ok ?

I don't think so.  It looks just right so I applied it to /etc/devfs.conf 
and rebooted.  There was a warning about the position of that line in the 
file (I wish I could remember more) and devfs blew up.  I couldn't see 
any of my disks so I rebooted into my gentoo partition and undid the 
edit.

It works fine with Aurélien's manual addition.

>
> --- ./devfsd.conf.usbmouse  2002-08-26 17:32:35.0 +0200
> +++ ./devfsd.conf   2002-08-26 17:33:12.0 +0200
> @@ -57,6 +57,9 @@
>  # ALSA stuff
>  #LOOKUPsnd MODLOAD ACTION snd
>
> +# Nvidia driver
> +alias /dev/nvidia*   NVdriver
> +
>  # Uncomment this to let PAM manage devfs
>  REGISTER   .*  CFUNCTION /lib/security/pam_console_apply_devfsd.so
> pam_console_apply_single $devpath

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Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 install: dm

[Peter Ruskin]

On Sunday 25 Aug 2002 20:29, Frederic Lepied wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > dm starts much too early - what about S99?
>
> why ? Can you explain your problem ?

Because there are things still happening that I want to see the progress 
of on terminal 1 - I'm watching the progress of shorewall, postfix and 
ADSL loading when I'm interrupted by that black screen and wait cursor.

I can hit [Ctrl+Alt+F1] to get back but there's a delay.
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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: tinyfirewall

[Peter Ruskin]

I don't like the look of this.  It's very intimidating for those (like me) 
who don't know much about networking.  Presented with one screen of eight 
choices and no help, I felt just one click away from danger.

I used the shorewall documentation to configure my firewall and felt more 
in control.

Bastille was much better for newbies.
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[Cooker] Re: Beta 4 install: SpeedTouch broken - kernel?

[Peter Ruskin]

Sorry if you get this message more than once - for some reason my mail is 
not always reaching the list.

I found the reason for the SpeedTouch problem (Christoffer Olsen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> email gave me the clue)...

I had elected to install shorewall, which I already use on my gentoo box, 
but hadn't configured it.  It starts before speedtouch and must have been 
blocking packets.  Surely if it's not yet configured it should not do 
anything?

I looked at mcc's shorewall configuration but couldn't understand any of 
it so left it alone.  shorewall is much easier to configure by looking at 
its sample configurations and reading the docs.

So I copied the contents of /etc/shorewall from my gentoo partition and 
rebooted into 9.0beta4 and I have internet connection!

Still get the SIOCDELRT message and FAILED though.

On Sunday 25 Aug 2002 13:45, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> At last the settings I give during install find their way to the
> config files.  Thanks.
>
> At end of init (Ctrl+Alt+F1 to bypass stupid too early dm start),
> message "SIOCDELRT: No such process" and FAILED against "Internet
> connection to start at boot" (ADSL).
>
> When KDE has started, gkrellm shows that ppp0 is up, but I can't
> connect to anything on the net.  So I do a
> # service internet stop
> Stopping internet connection if needed: [  OK 
> ] and
> # service internet start
> Checking internet connections to start at boot
> ...nothing
>
> # /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_up
> SIOCDELRT: No such process
> Starting ADSL connection:BLOCK1: Connection timed out
>
> # speedtouch-doctor
> You are using linux kernel version 2.4.19-5mdk
> Support for USB is OK
> Preliminary USB device filesystem is OK
> UHCI support is OK
> /dev/ppp is OK
> HDLC support is OK
> HDLC support is OK (no bug)
> pppd version 2.4.1
> You are using pppd version  (untested)
> No existing PPP connection... trying to make one (please wait)
> ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Inappropriate ioctl for device
> Cannot make a PPP connection: Fatal
> Aug 25 03:42:59 penguin kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
>
> I know nothing about ioctl but suspect it is kernel-based.  I'm
> using the stock beta4 kernel (ignore the sig below - I'm on my gentoo
> box because it has internet connection).

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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: sensors

[Peter Ruskin]

end of sensors-detect output...
Do you want to generate /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors? (YES/no):
Copy prog/init/lm_sensors.init to /etc/rc.d/init.d/lm_sensors
for initialization at boot time.

There is no /etc/rc.d/init.d/lm_sensors so WTF?

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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: bash: TMOUT

[Peter Ruskin]

bash: TMOUT: readonly variable bug back again

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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: KDE file sorting

[Peter Ruskin]

KDE file sorting.  I like to see traditional UNIX file sorting, like
.X  .a  X  a
...but I've never been able to make that setting stick in konqueror.
It's an old KDE bug (reported) that goes back to KDE 2.0 but nobody
bothers to fix.  However, now we have a Mandrake KDE bug that sorts
a  .b  W  .X  Y
...which is _very_ annoying.

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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: dm

[Peter Ruskin]

dm starts much too early - what about S99?

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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: DeskJet 845C USB

[Peter Ruskin]

USB DeskJet 845C does a test print at last during install (previous betas 
failed), but only after choosing CUPS with GimpPrint - the recommended HP 
ij something driver doesn't work with this printer.

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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: where is nt?

[Peter Ruskin]

no nt (Downloader for X) found in packages selection

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[Cooker] Beta 4 install: SpeedTouch broken - kernel?

[Peter Ruskin]

At last the settings I give during install find their way to the
config files.  Thanks.

At end of init (Ctrl+Alt+F1 to bypass stupid too early dm start),
message "SIOCDELRT: No such process" and FAILED against "Internet
connection to start at boot" (ADSL).

When KDE has started, gkrellm shows that ppp0 is up, but I can't
connect to anything on the net.  So I do a
# service internet stop
Stopping internet connection if needed: [  OK  ]
and
# service internet start
Checking internet connections to start at boot
...nothing

# /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_up
SIOCDELRT: No such process
Starting ADSL connection:BLOCK1: Connection timed out

# speedtouch-doctor
You are using linux kernel version 2.4.19-5mdk
Support for USB is OK
Preliminary USB device filesystem is OK
UHCI support is OK
/dev/ppp is OK
HDLC support is OK
HDLC support is OK (no bug)
pppd version 2.4.1
You are using pppd version  (untested)
No existing PPP connection... trying to make one (please wait)
ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Inappropriate ioctl for device
Cannot make a PPP connection: Fatal
Aug 25 03:42:59 penguin kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

I know nothing about ioctl but suspect it is kernel-based.  I'm
using the stock beta4 kernel (ignore the sig below - I'm on my gentoo
box because it has internet connection).
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 Beta 3: NVIDIA drivers (Was: ATI Radeon 8500 drivers)

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 14:37, Per ?yvind Karlsen wrote:
> that's not entirely correct
> there are sources for the kernel-module, but not the GLX module
> NVIDIA_GLX-blablabla.src.rpm contains only precompiled binaries
> NVIDIA_kernel-blablabla.src.rpm cointans the source for the kernel
> module anyway, the license prohibits mandrake to ship these packages
> with the distro, does'nt it?

It doesn't stop Gentoo from distributing them.
>
> gabor wrote:
> >there aren't any nvidia source packages...
> >
> >
> >the srpm you are talking about is simply a collection already-compiled
> >of object-files ( or how to call them in linux), so you can link them
> >for the current kernel... no sources.
> >
> >bye,
> >gabor
> >
> >On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 09:06, Thomas Backlund wrote:
> Could it be possible to use them in Mandrake 9.0? Maybe they could
>  be included into 9.0 relese?
> >>>
> >>>Are they not binary-only? They will be treated as the Nvidia, ie not
> >>> in the download version, hopefully drakx/XFdrake can be made to
> >>> support them if installed (which Nvidia drivers are).
> >>
> >>Would it be possible to include nVidia drivers in the download
> >> version? Just a thought, since they exist as both binary and source
> >> packages?
> >>
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Tämä viesti on virustarkistettu INRITEL OY:n postipalvelimella.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Networking - Problems with Speedtouch

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 11:31, Daouda LO wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Thursday 15 Aug 2002 06:30, Daouda LO wrote:
> > > Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > mandrakeexpert incident 29295 forwarded to cooker.
> > > > "ALLAN GUILD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > stusa : 14/08 11:26 : Incident created In both Beta 1
> > > > and Beta 2, I have found the speedtouch usb modem required
> > > > configuration by hand, in two places
> > > >
> > > > 1) In the /etc/ppp/peers/adsl file the vpi and vci numbers
> > > > are not filled in, so they have to be filled in by hand.
> > >
> > > It's fixed in latest drakxtools. Should work in Beta3.
> >
> > No, it's still broken in Beta3.
>
> could you give me your /etc/sysconfig/clock please?

UTC=false
ARC=false
ZONE=Europe/London

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Re: [Cooker] game frozen-bubble freezes

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 09:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> try without running artsd.
>
> hmm..anyone know how to really fix this?
>
> Danny

KDE Control Centre -> Sound -> Sound Server -> General -> Autosuspend if 
idle for 1 second.
>
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Jonathan Drews wrote:
> > Application: frozen-bubble-0.9.3-6mdk
> > Mandrake 9.0 Beta 3
> > Computer: WalMart (Microtell)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  The game frozen-bubble freezes on startup. I find this information
> > when running it at the x-term:
> >
> > [beta3@localhost beta3]$ frozen-bubble
> > [[ Frozen-Bubble-0.9.3 ]]
> >
> >   http://www.frozen-bubble.org/
> >
> >   Copyright (c) 2000, 2001, 2002 Guillaume Cottenceau.
> >   Artwork: Alexis Younes <73lab at free.fr>
> >Amaury Amblard-Ladurantie 
> >   Soundtrack: Matthias Le Bidan 
> >   Design & Programming: Guillaume Cottenceau  > free.fr>
> >
> >   Sponsored by MandrakeSoft 
> >
> >   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> > modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version
> > 2, as published by the Free Software Foundation.
> >
> > [SDL Init] ALSA lib dlmisc.c:97:(snd_dlsym_verify) unable to verify
> > version for symbol snd_config_hook_load
> > ALSA lib conf.c:2561:(snd_config_hooks_call) symbol
> > snd_config_hook_load is not defined inside (null)
> > ALSA lib conf.c:2968:(snd_config_update_r) hooks failed, removing
> > configuration
> > /dev/dsp: Resource temporarily unavailable
> > [Graphics...] [50 levels]
> > Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device).
> > Ready.
> > X Error of failed request:  BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window
> > parameter) Major opcode of failed request:  145 (MIT-SHM)
> >   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_ShmPutImage)
> >   Resource id in failed request:  0x2cd
> >   Serial number of failed request:  1952
> >   Current serial number in output stream:  1953
> >
> > 
> >
> > Fatal signal: Broken Pipe (SDL Parachute Deployed)
> > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
> >
> > Again I find this in my /var/log/messages, even though my sound
> > works:
> >
> > Aug 21 19:57:42 localhost kernel: Assertion failed! chan->is_active
> > ==
> > sg_active(chan->iobase),via82cxxx_audio.c,via_chan_maybe_start,line=1
> >196
> >
> > The behaviour of this game, when it freezes, is identical, to the
> > freeze i get when running toppler. Both problems are sound related.

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Re: [Cooker] messy shutdown?

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 21 Aug 2002 22:23, Ben Reser wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 11:49:26AM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > A side-effect of dm starting X is that you don't get to see the
> > status messages of things that run after dm, which is a bit annoying

Actually you *can* do [Alt-F1] as soon as that damned wait cursor appears, 
but *why* on earth should we.  If we didn't want to see that stuff 
rolling down the screen we could use "quiet" at boot -- but for those of 
us who want to know what's going on this is pretty disgraceful.

> > :\. I changed from OSS to ALSA and had to check /var/log/messages to
> > make sure it had started correctly, since ALSA is started after dm...
>
> The question was asked but there has yet to be a straight answer.  WHY
> did we switch from inittab to a initscript?

Copy someone else??
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Re: [Cooker] Alternate Window Manager for Gnome2?

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 20 Aug 2002 23:43, Edward Tandi wrote:
> I've installed 9.0b3 on my Vaio laptop. Installs without a problem this
> time. Great work.
>
> I'm not too impressed by Gnome 2 though. I'm used to using the
> Enlightenment window manager. Does anyone know how to set an alternate
> window manager for Gnome 2? It looks like Gnome 2 needs to mature.
>
> I took a look at KDE 3, it's looking better, but it still can't drag
> windows between virtual desktops.

Oh yes you can!  Click the broad arrow to the left of the panel's pager to 
display the *desktop* pager; there you can drag windows from desktop to 
desktop - a nice feature.
>
> While I'm at it, It appears after the install, that gdm wasn't
> activated by default. This meant that when I logged out, I got the
> terminal logon screen rather than a graphical login screen.
>
> Also, who's idea was it to put the menus on the top pannel? What for a
> top panel?
>
> More playing tomorrow...
>
> Ed-T.

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Re: [Cooker] Cooker (of 1:30AM GMT+08 Tuesday) install, part 2

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 21 Aug 2002 16:40, Leon Brooks wrote:
> In between libgii-0.8.1-3mdk and apache2-2.0.40-4mdk nestles
> gstreamer-0.4.0-3mdk, hereinafter [name].
>
> From the previous batch I got
>
> getFile libmad0-0.14.2b-2mdk.i586.rpm:
> refusing medium 2
>
> In this batch I get this repeated x4:
>
> opened rpm database for retry transaction of 1 package only
> rpm transactions start
> getFile [name].rpm:
> refusing medium 2
> retrying installing [name] alone in a transaction
>
> ...then...
>
> bad package [name] unable to be installed
>
> ...this caused a popup asking if I wanted to proceed. Clicking yes
> resulted in it reappearing, clicking again made it go away. Then a
> similar error log and popup for libmad0, apache, libgii... then back to
> gstreamer again and seemed to be happy looping there forever.
>
> The server shows fetches from RPMS2/* failing. RPMS2 is linked to a
> contrib directory which rsync did not pull down from Norway.
>
> The rsync command I use is:
>
> rsync -ltrvz --partial --progress --stats --delete \
>   --exclude SRPMS --exclude alpha --exclude ppc --exclude ia64 \
>   sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake-devel/cooker .
>
You need another session like...
 rsync -ltrvz --partial --progress --stats --delete \
   --exclude SRPMS --exclude alpha --exclude ppc --exclude ia64 \
   sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake-devel/contrib ..\.
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Re: [Cooker] Cooker expert upgrade report

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 21 Aug 2002 11:56, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 2)  Could not make boot floppy on install:
> > /dev/fd0: No such file or directory
> > Failed to format /dev/fd0
> > * warning: mkbootdisk failed
> > * starting step `createBootdisk'
> > * to put in modules scsi_hostadapter
> > * running: mkbootdisk --noprompt --appendargs devfs=mount --device
> > /dev/fd0 2.4.18-21mdk with root /mnt
>
> you can fix it in drakx console (vt1) by
> chroot /mnt
> rm -fr /dev/*
> /usr/sbin/mdk_makedev /dev

Thanks Thierry - I'll have to print that out (I'll never remember that).  
But shouldn't it be fixed?
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[Cooker] Cooker expert upgrade report

[Peter Ruskin]

1)  Could not test X in install - message about no ttys.

2)  Could not make boot floppy on install:
/dev/fd0: No such file or directory
Failed to format /dev/fd0
* warning: mkbootdisk failed
* starting step `createBootdisk'
* to put in modules scsi_hostadapter
* running: mkbootdisk --noprompt --appendargs devfs=mount --device 
/dev/fd0 2.4.18-21mdk with root /mnt

3)  New kernel not installed - why?
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Networking - Problems with Speedtouch

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 15 Aug 2002 06:30, Daouda LO wrote:
> Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > mandrakeexpert incident 29295 forwarded to cooker.
> > "ALLAN GUILD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > stusa : 14/08 11:26 : Incident created In both Beta 1
> > and Beta 2, I have found the speedtouch usb modem required
> > configuration by hand, in two places
> >
> > 1) In the /etc/ppp/peers/adsl file the vpi and vci numbers
> > are not filled in, so they have to be filled in by hand.
>
> It's fixed in latest drakxtools. Should work in Beta3.

No, it's still broken in Beta3.

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Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection

[Peter Ruskin]

On Sunday 18 Aug 2002 21:03, David Walser wrote:
> --- Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > It looks like this breaks your explanation here.
> >
> > You said only
> >
> > > cards that aren't supported by OSS or the OSS
> >
> > module has problems
> >
> > > use ALSA, but it looks like from this file here,
> >
> > you're trying to
> >
> > > use ALSA for cards for which that isn't the case,
> >
> > for example the
> >
> > > es1370/es1371 and others.
> >
> > what do you smoke ?
>
> No, seriously Thierry, explain yourself.  I've been
> using the OSS modules with these cards for 3.5 years,
> no problems ever, and the cards are fully supported.
> ALSA has problems (mixer problems, having to load 50
> modules just for freakin' sound).
>
> I know you like ALSA, but you're being overzealous
> with your support here.  Please save it for later.
> Don't force it on people it's not going to benefit.
>
I'll just chip in here with my two pence.  I use es1371 with OSS with no 
problems.  I have to load it with option "joystick=1" to get my joystick 
working.  With the ALSA drivers I have no joystick, so I get annoyed when 
ALSA is chosen for me too.
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[Cooker] CD expert install 9.0 beta 3

[Peter Ruskin]

1)  First reboot produced just numbers (didn't note which ones) so booted 
from floppy.  During installation I don't think I was asked whether to 
use lilo or grub.  /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/lilo.conf looked OK so I 
did the drak thing and told it to use grub (it always says I have lilo 
although I don't use lilo anywhere).  Boots OK after that.

2)  I like mcc but it's very slow.  Icons often disappear until mouseover.

3)  Konqueror file sorting is crazy - treating dotfiles is if there were 
no dot, for example Desktop is listed before .ee and evolution before 
.fluxbox.

4)  Printer doesn't print.  HP845C USB printer correctly detected.  I 
tried the recommended driver: Foomatic + hpijs and CUPS+GIMP-PRINT.
KDE Print Manager, administator mode, change driver provokes empty error 
dialog then carries on as normal.  Selected GIMP-PRINT and that works.

5)  Speedtouch - seemingly correctly handled at install, with reminder to 
get /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o.  Did this, but then
# /usr//share/speedtouch.sh start   [FAILED]
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_speedtouch.default contained this line:
pty "/usr/bin/pppoa3 -vpi  -vci "
as did /etc/ppp/peers/adsl
I corrected them to
pty "/usr/bin/pppoa3 -c -m 1 -p -vpi 0 -vci 38"
and then it works.
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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gimp1_3-1.3.7-1mdk

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 16 Aug 2002 21:15, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> [Contrib-RPM]
>
> --=-=-=
> Name: gimp1_3  Relocations: (not

> - big spec cleaning (next release will be "alternativization")
 ^
just where do you get these horrible words from?
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Re: [Cooker] 9b2 "make modules" fails "out of the box"

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 15 Aug 2002 22:58, andre wrote:
> On Thursday 15 August 2002 22:02, Stew Benedict wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Glenn Burkhardt wrote:
> > > Using "kernel-source-2.4.18-22mdk.i586.rpm" from
> > > "MandrakeLinux-9.0beta2-CD3.i586.iso", during the sequence
> >
> > "make mrproper" should be your first step
> >
> > > make clean
> > > make depend
> > > make modules
> >
> > Stew Benedict
>
> Maybe adding a README.MANDRAKE in /usr/src/linux would be a smart idea.
> I know it has been suggested before and will be suggested later but i
> think it will stop this question being asked every month or so on this
> mailing list

Another good use for /usr/src/linux/README.mandrake would be to list all 
patches used, as Gentoo does:
What's in this kernel?

INCLUDED:
from http://www.kernel.org (ac):
2.4.19-pre7-ac2
removed the software suspend patch; it can be dangerous and
conflicts with the new ACPI
from http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs:
SGI XFS 1.1 (Official release code -- the most thoroughly tested)
and so on...
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Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 15 Aug 2002 13:27, Tom Whiting wrote:

> Certain applications rely on play (again /usr/bin/play), some actually


# rpm -qf /usr/bin/play
sox-12.17.3-4mdk

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Possible bug - cannot install boot loader on XFS f

[Peter Ruskin]

On Sunday 11 Aug 2002 22:52, Pixel wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > send me the first sector of your MBR so that i take a magic
> > > corresponding to acronis.
> >
> > Glad to Pixel - please tell me how.  It must be something like:
> > dd if=/dev/hde count=??? of= ??
>
> that's it, count=1 is enough

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Possible bug - cannot install boot loader on XFS f

[Peter Ruskin]

On Sunday 11 Aug 2002 11:14, Pixel wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Saturday 10 Aug 2002 21:28, Pixel wrote:
> > > "Devin B. Hedge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I think you hit the nail on the head. By default, it appears that
> > > > the Mandrake Installer tries to install the Boot Loader in the
> > > > XFS boot partition instead of on the MBR. Of course this
> > > > installation fails and will not continue beyond that point. Once
> > > > I switched the location where the Installer was trying to put
> > > > LILO to the MBR it worked fine.
> > > >
> > > > Am I making sense?
> > >
> > > it should default install on the boot sector only in a few cases,
> > > like finding pqmagic or system commander on it, is that it?
> >
> > I use Acronis Operating System Selector rather than pqmagic because
> > a) It knows ext3 and reiserfs and b) it's cheap.
> >
> > My default Mandrake install always wants to install to MBR - it would
> > be nice if it could recognise acronis, as it gets very messy if I'm
> > too quick on the install and forget to set to the boot sector.
>
> send me the first sector of your MBR so that i take a magic
> corresponding to acronis.

Glad to Pixel - please tell me how.  It must be something like:
dd if=/dev/hde count=??? of= ??
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Possible bug - cannot install boot loader on XFS f

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 10 Aug 2002 21:28, Pixel wrote:
> "Devin B. Hedge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I think you hit the nail on the head. By default, it appears that the
> > Mandrake Installer tries to install the Boot Loader in the XFS boot
> > partition instead of on the MBR. Of course this installation fails
> > and will not continue beyond that point. Once I switched the location
> > where the Installer was trying to put LILO to the MBR it worked fine.
> >
> > Am I making sense?
>
> it should default install on the boot sector only in a few cases, like
> finding pqmagic or system commander on it, is that it?

I use Acronis Operating System Selector rather than pqmagic because a) It 
knows ext3 and reiserfs and b) it's cheap.

My default Mandrake install always wants to install to MBR - it would be 
nice if it could recognise acronis, as it gets very messy if I'm too 
quick on the install and forget to set to the boot sector.
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Re: [Cooker] CD expert install 9.0 beta2

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 03 Aug 2002 22:33, Anne et Bertrand wrote:
> > 4)  Desktop icons for removable devices are useless.  Click produces
> > "Unable to enter file:/mnt/{floppy,cdrom,cdrom2}.  You do not have
> > access
> > rights to this location."
>
> I suppose you're talkingh about Nautilus ? If so, it's a known bug, and
> it works now for me with nautilus-2.0.2-1.

Sorry, I should have provided more information.  I rarely use gnome stuff 
- I was talking about KDE.

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[Cooker] CD expert install 9.0 beta2

[Peter Ruskin]

Easy install - just a few problems...

1)  Why can't we have a separate partition fo root anymore?  I keep a lot 
of configuration files in there and they're lost when / is formatted.

2)  Printer doesn't print.  HP845C USB printer correctly detected.  I 
tried the recommended driver: Foomatic + hpijs and CUPS+GIMP-PRINT.
KDE Print Manager, administator mode, change driver provokes error dialog: 
"Unable to start the creation of the driver database. The execution of 
make_driver_db_cups failed."  It gives this dialog twice, then carries on 
as normal.

I checked modules loaded: lp, parport_pc, parport, printer OK.

3)  Speedtouch - seemingly correctly handled at install, with reminder to 
get /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o.  Did this, but then
# /usr//share/speedtouch.sh start   [FAILED]
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_speedtouch.default contained this line:
pty "/usr/bin/pppoa3 -vpi  -vci "
as did /etc/ppp/peers/adsl
I corrected them to
pty "/usr/bin/pppoa3 -c -m 1 -p -vpi 0 -vci 38"
but adsl still would start.  There seems to be some confusion over whether 
to load modules uhci or usb-uhci.  Now usb-uhci is blacklisted in hotplug 
but preferred in /etc/init.d/usb.

Next bootup adsl started OK but doesn't restart after stopping.

4)  Desktop icons for removable devices are useless.  Click produces 
"Unable to enter file:/mnt/{floppy,cdrom,cdrom2}.  You do not have access 
rights to this location."

5)  lbreakout2 cna't use sound - the "sound" button is greyed.  This is 
*very* serious.

6)  kivio can't connect objects.

5)  No euro in X for en_GB.
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[Cooker] 9.0 beta1

[Peter Ruskin]

That damned kpersonalizer still runs every time - it's a real switchoff.

no response to "nautilus" on command line.

had to [ctrl-alt-bksace] to get out of gnome.
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[Cooker] 9.0 beta1 report

[Peter Ruskin]

Pretty good stuff!  Well done!

Installation:
1.  Booting from the CD1, I had a spurious message along the lines of 
"You're using an alternative installation method..." and then I had to 
choose the installation method.  After loading the aic7xxx module you 
would expect the installer to know where you are installing from.

2.  Advertisements need updating: many references to Mandrake Linux 8.2 
and KDE 2.2.2.

3.  Speedtouch: after selecting adsl and speedtouch in network 
installation, in /etc/ppp/adsl there are **still** no vpi nor vci numbers 
and no speedtouch file in /etc/init.d

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Re: [Cooker] Losing ML messages (Was: typo in /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html)

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 10 Jul 2002 18:48, Brad Felmey wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 12:31, Ben Reser wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 12:17:31PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > it would have been nice to have done:
> > > [gc@bi ~] urpmf /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html
> > > indexhtml:/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html
> > > [gc@bi ~] rpmmon.pl -p indexhtml
> > > pablo
> > > and CC pablo.
> > > (http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/html/rpmmon-tut.html)
> >
> > Or if you don't have rpmmon.pl installed you can use the web form I
> > have up at:
> > http://ben.reser.org/mandrake/rpmmon/
>
> Is anyone else seeing followups to messages that never arrive? I'm
> seeing all kinds of threads where I never get the original messages,
> and see followups. It used to be manageable, but I'm now seeing it a
> whole lot. I never saw GC's followup to this.

Same here.
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3's Quanta not working in 8.2

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 10 Jul 2002 14:08, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:21:46 +0100
>
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > $ rpm -qa|grep quanta
> > quanta-2.1-0.20020404.1mdk
>
> Upgrade to current quanta-2.0.2-0.20020526.1mdk
>
>
> Charles
>
Thanks, but that one is for cooker and installs in /usr, not /opt/kde3.

Furthermore, the source rpm on cooker doesn't want to rebuild on 8.2 - too 
many unsatisfied dependencies.  

It seems to me that cooker is the distro to run; although the numbered 
releases like 8.2 are supposedly stable and cooker not, any upgrade to a 
numbered release (like KDE2.2 -> KDE3 is likely to render the distro 
henceforth unupgradeable.
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[Cooker] KDE3's Quanta not working in 8.2

[Peter Ruskin]

$ quanta
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
quanta: relocation error: quanta: undefined symbol: 
finalizeGUI__11KMainWindowP13KXMLGUIClient

$ which quanta
/opt/kde3/bin/quanta

$ rpm -qa|grep quanta
quanta-2.1-0.20020404.1mdk

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Re: [Cooker] DrakX question / request

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 08 Jul 2002 19:05, Pixel wrote:
> "Florent BERANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > if cat /proc/scsi/scsi return an scsi scanner (a new
> > scsi_probe() function ?)
>
> anyone has a /proc/scsi/scsi from a box with scsi scanner?

Me.

[02:12 peter@penguin: ~]
$ ls /proc/scsi
aic7xxx/  scsi

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[Cooker] Current cooker install - depslist.ordered mismatch

[Peter Ruskin]

Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020706 16:54
Expert install from hd.img
Snipped from report.bug...

* getFile Mandrake/base/synthesis.hdlist2.cz:
* no need to replace previous package xmltex-1.9-1mdk.i586 with newer 
package xmltex-1.8y-2mdk.i586
* ignored 1 headers in hdlist2.cz
* read 1616 new headers in hdlist2.cz
* psUsingHdlists read 3507 headers on 2 hdlists
* getFile Mandrake/base/depslist.ordered:
* getFile Mandrake/base/provides:
* ignoring xmltex-1.8y-2mdk.i586 in depslist mismatch version in hdlist
* inconsistency in position for zziplib0-devel-0.10.27-3mdk.i586 in 
depslist and hdlist
* warning: depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files at 
/usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm line 614,  line 3508.

I had previously done:
gendistrib --distrib /mnt/downloads/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586
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Re: [Cooker] rsync switches

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 05 Jul 2002 19:15, Tech At Mathco Dot Com wrote:
> I got rsync working ok, trying to rsync the cooker
> directory from sunet right now. But my problem is,
> it keeps timing out on large files (i have dsl),
> and when you cancel rsync it removes the file it
> started downloading, so my question is, is there any
> switch in rsync that lets you resume a allready started file?
>
> Right now i have to ftp the large files, just imagine the
> kdebase is over 60MB and then rsync the rest.
>
> Any info would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
>
> MattB


rsync -av -H -P --progress --stats rsync://ftp.sunet.se:873 
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Re: [Cooker] Cooker weird behavior

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 04 Jul 2002 12:11, Simone Riccio wrote:
> Is anybody experiencing this?
> All the tools that require a prompt for root password just blink once
> and disappear, in example if i click on an rpm the root pass prompt
> appears for a tenth of second and then vanishes... that's the same with
> control center...
>
Yep - me too(tm).  Been happening for some time now.  If you su to root in 
a terminal and issue "mcc" that works.  It must be the su wrapper at 
fault.
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Re: [Cooker] Contrib

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 27 Jun 2002 12:22, David Walser wrote:
> If you get the SRPMS you should be able to build them
> on both.

Not always, in my experience.  I do have SRPMS but want to save wasted 
time.
>
> --- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Would it be possible to identify which contrib
> > packages are installable to
> > 8.2, cooker or both?
> >
> > Perhaps sub-directories of Mandrake-devel/contrib,
> > the way plf does it?
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> > AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+  512MB  Kernel:
> > 2.4.18-6mdk-pnr-win4lin
> > KDE: 3.0.1   Qt: 3.0.4  up 9 hours 44 minutes.
>
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>
>
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Re: [Cooker] Contrib

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 27 Jun 2002 14:31, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Le Jeudi 27 Juin 2002 12:51, Peter Ruskin a écrit :
> > Would it be possible to identify which contrib packages are
> > installable to 8.2, cooker or both?
>
> No more than to identify main package from cooker that are installable
> on 8.2. Some do, some don't.
>
> > Perhaps sub-directories of Mandrake-devel/contrib, the way plf does
> > it?
>
> Contrib packages for 8.2 are in mandrake directory
> Contrib packages for cooker are in mandrake-devel directory
> It is not just a subdirectory question, it is a question of maintaining
> packages for a target distribution, which is costly. Ask Buchan, if you
> want details :-)

Nuff said.  I see that cost of maintenance must be the real problem, so 
the only answer is suck it and see if I want to try cooker contribs on 
8.2.

> Rebuilding from source solves only binary dependencies, not actual
> setup differences. Think of kde3 setup differences between 8.2 and
> cooker, for instance.

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[Cooker] Contrib

[Peter Ruskin]

Would it be possible to identify which contrib packages are installable to 
8.2, cooker or both?

Perhaps sub-directories of Mandrake-devel/contrib, the way plf does it?
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[Cooker] KDE Control Centre

[Peter Ruskin]

Look & Feel | Desktop | Desktop tab:  Every time I visit here I have to 
deselect "Align Icons Vertically on Desktop".  That setting is never 
remembered.
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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kio_rpm-0.0.6-1mdk

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 24 Jun 2002 10:00, Laurent MONTEL wrote:
> [Contrib-RPM]
>
> --=-=-=
> Name: kio_rpm  Relocations: (not
> relocateable) Version : 0.0.6 Vendor:
> MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk  Build Date:
> Mon Jun 24 10:45:32 2002 Install date: (not installed)  
> Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group   : Graphical desktop/KDE
> Source RPM: (none) Size: 463631  
> License: GPL
> Packager: Montel Laurent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://home.t-online.de/home/f_bachmann/kiorpm.html
> Summary : RPM kioslave for KDE
> Description :
> kio_fish is a kioslave for KDE 3 that lets you view and manipulate your
> remote files using just a simple shell account and some standard unix
> commands on the remote machine.
>
Cut 'n' paste error in description? -- fishy
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Re: [Cooker] libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 needed for mozilla compile.

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 24 Jun 2002 09:30, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> > ./mozilla-installer-bin: error while loading shared
> > libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > any ideas?
>
> bor@cooker% rpm -qf /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
> libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.79mdk
>
> welcome to cooker
>
> -andrej

libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.79mdk is not currently on cooker.  I guess you 
haven't upgraded recently Andrej?
>
> > I searched rpmfind.net for this file but it didnt come
> > up with any rpms to install.
> >
> > rpm -qa |grep libstdc
> > libstdc++3.1-3.1.1-0.5mdk
> > libstdc++3.1-devel-3.1.1-0.5mdk
> >
> > In general is there an easy way to find an rpm that
> > provides something you are missing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jo
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Re: [Cooker] depslist mismatch

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 22 Jun 2002 19:17, Robert Fox wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 19:56, aleX Kiausch wrote:
> > Hi everybody
> >
> > When I try to make a fresh install from the rsynced cooker i get the
> > following errormessage:
> > depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files
> > What's up?
> > Am I wrong or the mirror I get it from?
> >
> > please help
>
> Check the following link for details - you need to run gendistrib:
>
> http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1577&lang=en
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> R.Fox

Very useful - thanks.  I just did that on my local cooker mirror and got a 
lot of these...

gendistrib --distrib /mnt/downloads/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586

yadex-1.5.2-2mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which
  is not available in any medium listed
  but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need 
rebuild ?
  but a similar provides is available as 
[libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ?
yank-0.2.1-1mdk require [libpisock.so.4] which
  is not available in any medium listed
  but a similar provides is available as [libpisock.so.5], need rebuild ?

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Re: [Cooker] Favicons no working

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 20 Jun 2002 23:11, Daouda LO wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Favicons don't show in konqueror of KDE3 - in cooker or the 8.2
> > version.
>
> It works perfectly there (kdebase-3.0.1-16mdk).
> I tested it on http://merd.net

Yes, they appear top left of konqueror's title bar and as a bookmark if 
you save it.  But if you already have a saved bookmark that showed a 
favicon in KDE2.2.2 that favicon doesn't show.
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Re: [Cooker] speedtouch

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 20 Jun 2002 09:28, Tom Badran wrote:
> On Thursday 20 Jun 2002 9:08 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > Is not speedtouch-1.0-2, which is in main, a driver for this modem?
>
> Yes, but it needs the firmware from the alcatel website.

One file, /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o, 523.3 KB, which I have, but it 
needs to be made available at install time.
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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] cups-1.1.15-1mdk

[Peter Ruskin]

On Tuesday 18 Jun 2002 23:46, Till Kamppeter wrote:
> --=-=-=
> Name: cups Relocations: (not
> relocateable) Version : 1.1.15Vendor:
> MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk  Build Date:
> Tue Jun 18 22:30:53 2002 Install date: (not installed)  

Any sign of gimp-print driver for HP DeskJet 720C?
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[Cooker] libgtop2 - dependencies

[Peter Ruskin]

[22:54 peter@penguin: RPMS]$ sudo rpm -Uvh 
libgtop2.0_0-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libgtop2 >= 2.0.0 is needed by libgtop2.0_0-2.0.0-1mdk

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Re: [Cooker] Avifile Player Not working

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 15 Jun 2002 21:28, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >> aviplay: relocation error: aviplay: undefined symbol:
> >> _ZN12QPaintDevice12x_appdisplayE
>
> That's QPaintDevice::x_appdisplay, as mangled by gcc3.
>
> > But I'm running KDE3 in 8.2, with the nvidia drivers.  Yves said not
> > to use the nvidia drivers but I can't do without them.
>
> Why are you using Cooker packages built with gcc3.1 on a stable
> distribution (8.2) built with an older compiler that has incompatible
> ABI? Either you use Cooker packages on Cooker, or use 8.2 packages on
> 8.2.
>
> Bye,
> Gwenole.

You're right of course -- it works fine in Cooker.
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Re: [Cooker] Avifile Player Not working

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 14 Jun 2002 20:38, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 01:36:34AM +0200, Michael Reinsch wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Sam, 15 Jun 2002 00:25:25 Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > >> > aviplay: relocation error: aviplay: undefined symbol:
> > >> > _ZN12QPaintDevice12x_appdisplayE
> > >>
> > >> Which libgcc are you using? Update to latest one.
> > >
> > >[23:23 peter@penguin: peter]$ rpm -qa|grep glibc
> >
> > mr@nibbler ~ $ rpm -qa | grep libgcc   (!!!)
> > libgcc1-3.1.1-0.4mdk
>
> The above symbol is a symbol of Qt3.
>
> What qt3 version are you using over there?
>
> I have 3 mdk and it runs fine.
>
>   -- Geoff.

[20:23 peter@penguin: peter]$ rpm -qa|grep qt3
libqt3-3.0.4-3mdk
libqt3-devel-3.0.4-3mdk

But I'm running KDE3 in 8.2, with the nvidia drivers.  Yves said not to 
use the nvidia drivers but I can't do without them.
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