Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk
It appears it isn't the CPU or the filesystem. I'm ReiserFS on / (which contains /boot) and a AMD CPU. Just to summarize my setup again: 2.0GHz Athlon-XP 512MB PC3000 RAM (dual channel) MSI K7N2 Nforce2 120GB Maxtor 7200/2MB / reiserfs 8GB /dev/hda1 /export reiserfs 100GB /dev/hda6 builtin network and sound GF4 4200 64MB Lilo entry: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21 label=2421 root=/dev/hda1 read-only optional vga=normal append= quiet devfs=mount acpi=off nosmp ide0=ata100 hdc=ide-scsi I panic just like everyone else in this thread. On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:14:53 +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote Stefan van der Eijk wrote: I guess everybody in this thread was trying to boot the kernel on an AMD based machine. Is this correct? Have people been able to boot this kernel? On which CPU? I guess it's not the CPU. Perhaps the filesystem? I'm on ext3 (/boot and /) Stefan Stefan This (enterprise-) kernel doesn't want to boot on my box (Asus NForce2, AMD althonXP, 1.5Gb). It panics before init message is shown on the screen. Anybody else? regards, Stefan --=-=-= * Tue Jun 24 2003 Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-1mdk - update cpufreq to 2.4.22-1 snapshot. - update bootsplash to 3.0.7 (make warly happy). - update andrea VM to rc8aa1. - acpi 20030523. - disabled several options - bcm4400 2.0.0 (thanks ronin). - 2.4.21-final. --=-=-= E: kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk invalid-spec-name kernel-2.4.spec --=-=-= --=-=-=
Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality
The half-assed way MS is doing it is a hack. What you probably really want is true snapshots which are done at the FS level. Check out NetApp for an example...snapshots are VERY handy and VERY fast way to save yourself from having to go to tape. (ie. 1sec to snapshot a 0.5TB filesystem) The snapshots also take no space to speak of (couple megs) until you have a delta from the snapshot filesystem contents and the current contents since they refer to the same files until it changes/moves/gets deleted/etc. Snapshots do not protect against device failures due to their nature, but they are great ways to do incremental backups in a very short amount of time. They also allow you to rollback to some previous state in about 1sec. To overly simplify it: they snap a picture of the filesystem layout at a given time and make it static. All changes after that to existing files go to a new place on the disk, leaving the old as it was until you free it. As far as a nice UI, I'd be 100% against that...someone can build one but I want file-system level availability: cd ~ ls your current files cd .snapshot-062503-1500 ls your files as they were on 6/25/03 @ 15:00 cp accidentlly deleted file ~ You just recovered your accidentially deleted file from a snapshot back to your home directory. It's not quite that simple as snapshots are done on the filesystem level and not (normally) on the directory level...you might have to cd /home/.snapshot-xyz/username, but it gets the point across. I believe this is currently available with LVM but I am unsure of it's status. Of course, another option is to use a versioned filesystem, but thats something else from snapshots entirely. -Rob On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 12:04:15 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2003 02:42 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user. I personally don't find this useful. When I delete a file, I want it to be deleted. That, in combination with incremental rotating backups I do every four hours with rsync give good production and online availability of a file if deleted by accident. Anyway, one point here is that it is useless implementing something like this if there is not a really good consistent UI for it. One thing users hate about Windows is it hiding what it does, and at present we aren't any better. Maybe before adding new incomprehensible features (ie ones without a good UI), we should have UIs for the incomprehensible features we already have. ACL support in Konqueror/Nautilus would get my vote. When rollback is available in at least one filesystem (probably Reiser4 some time after kernel 2.6.1 is out) it may be worthwhile adding a UI for it. In the meantime, let's get ACL support back in ext2/3, and have a UI for it. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+/BafrJK6UGDSBKcRAk3NAJ4nt8IO/kI6HDZxHaR0yHGOPjC28ACcC469 hHDLGJLKneJqTwjabmljxUg= =LDeM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk
I can verify this behaviour (panic on boot) on: K7N2 NForce2 512MB 120GB Maxtor ReiserFS on / I actually hope there is a fix fairly soon, I just accidentially removed my running kernel due to the versioning mix up of April/May. Anyone have the previous kernel .rpm laying around? On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:51:19 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote On Thursday June 26 2003 12:12 am, Quel Qun wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:49, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: This (enterprise-) kernel doesn't want to boot on my box (Asus NForce2, AMD althonXP, 1.5Gb). It panics before init message is shown on the screen. Anybody else? Yep, the up kernel panics here too. It looks like it is when it tries to initialise the file systems (reiserfs, and NTFS here). I had the problem with the UP kernel. Even worse, when I then tried to boot the kernel I've been usin (mm-18mdk), it panic'd too with the same 'init' error. No way to boot the system. Had to install 9.1 and re-update to cooker. 1.5g Athlon (oc'd), VIA kt133a chipset, 512mb sdram. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
[Cooker] 2.4.21-1mdk kernel source doesn't build?
I've tried a couple of times to build a kernel from the latest kernel- sources with the defconfig file in arch/i386 and it craps out in the ambassador.c file in the atm section. Is the defconfig not the .config that the packaged RPM is made with? If not, where is the RPM .config file? If so, shouldn't I be able to reproduce the RPM kernel?
Re: [Cooker] Duplicate RPMS after urpmi???
Yea, I looked for this and that's not the case I'm in. I actually have multiple entries for the RPMs. This made KDE unusable so I had to go in by hand and remove the kde*3.1.1 RPMs and then go back through and re-install the kde*3.1.2 RPMs (forced) to get a working KDE. On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 04:53:58 +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote Try: rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__* rpm --rebuilddb If your rpm database is buggy, this should fix. Else, you have really double entries in your database. Le Jeudi 12 Juin 2003 04:28, Rob Snow a écrit : I just did a a urpmi --update --auto-select on my system and it seemed to work fine, when finished I found I had a TON of duplicate RPMS. I have the new one and the original RPM. Here is an example: kdepim-3.1.1-5mdk kdepim-3.1.2-3mdk rpm-4.2-7mdk rpm-build-4.2-1mdk rpm-build-4.2-7mdk rpm-devel-4.2-1mdk rpm-devel-4.2-7mdk rpm-helper-0.9-1mdk rpmlint-0.49-1mdk rpmlint-0.50-1mdk rpm-python-4.2-1mdk rpm-python-4.2-7mdk rpm-rebuilder-0.7.1-1mdk rpm-rebuilder-0.8-1mdk rpmstats-0.4-1mdk rpmtools-4.5-10mdk rpmtools-4.5-11mdk urpmi-4.3-13mdk -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
[Cooker] Duplicate RPMS after urpmi???
I just did a a urpmi --update --auto-select on my system and it seemed to work fine, when finished I found I had a TON of duplicate RPMS. I have the new one and the original RPM. Here is an example: kdepim-3.1.1-5mdk kdepim-3.1.2-3mdk rpm-4.2-7mdk rpm-build-4.2-1mdk rpm-build-4.2-7mdk rpm-devel-4.2-1mdk rpm-devel-4.2-7mdk rpm-helper-0.9-1mdk rpmlint-0.49-1mdk rpmlint-0.50-1mdk rpm-python-4.2-1mdk rpm-python-4.2-7mdk rpm-rebuilder-0.7.1-1mdk rpm-rebuilder-0.8-1mdk rpmstats-0.4-1mdk rpmtools-4.5-10mdk rpmtools-4.5-11mdk urpmi-4.3-13mdk
[Cooker] nForce2 drivers fail on cooker
Hoping someone will confirm or deny that nforce drivers do not compile under cooker, making nforce 2 (specifically MSI K7N2) unusable unless you are using an old kernel (2.4.19-16 from 9.0) and nvnet drivers compiled on 9.0 compiler. I'll document and bug this if nobody responds shortly, just wanted some input first. -Rob
Re: [Cooker] nForce2 drivers fail on cooker
Thanks for the reply, thats why I wanted to check. I've just done another check and the nvnet and nvaudio will compile when I run with a cooker system (done today) but with 9.0 kernel (19-16) and same sources. With 21-8 to 21- 10 kernel/sources it dies. I can't get the specific info at this time as the machine is remote to me until Monday and rebooting into .21 will make it unavailable to me. My concern for Mandrake is that a cooker (9.1?) system will not run on nforce2 (at least MSI K7N2) as it currently stands. I've done a 9.0 - cooker upgrade on this machine knowing the concequences so I had a working nvnet/nvaudio on .19-16 around for failsafe. (audio not actually working, but not my real concern...no net is fatal, no audio is annoying) -Rob On 21 Feb 2003 23:32:30 -0800, Quel Qun wrote On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 23:16, Rob Snow wrote: Hoping someone will confirm or deny that nforce drivers do not compile under cooker, making nforce 2 (specifically MSI K7N2) unusable unless you are using an old kernel (2.4.19-16 from 9.0) and nvnet drivers compiled on 9.0 compiler. I'll document and bug this if nobody responds shortly, just wanted some input first. Rob, the sound driver does not compile, but you should not need it. the i810_audio module should support the embedded sound card. The nvnet.o compiles if you build it separately. It is pointless to create a bugzilla entry about that. Only NVidia can do something about it. -- Quel Qun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Lastest install kernel 2.4.21-pre4.6mdk reboots on Chaintech Apogee
I had to do the same on my Sony z505, acpi=off and it works...with it on my machine would simply turn itself off somewhere after init and mounting / r/w. I can't tell for sure as the machine is resting =) -Rob On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 05:55:09 -0600, Chuck Burns wrote On Monday 17 February 2003 1:24 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:43, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Requires noacpi acpi=off passed on the kernel otherwise the machine reboots. We're going to release 9.1 with acpi=off by default since that feature is a total of . I detect a note of frustration here *grin* (unfortunately you are right.) James I had to disable acpi in my bios on my desktop, and use acpi=off on my laptop... -- Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Boot dies with 2.4.20/21 from cooker on Sony Laptop
Greetings, I have a Sony z505lsk which I have cooker over a 9.0 install and I have a problem with the post 2.4.19 kernels. Each time I try to boot one of them my machine gets just past the 'mounting root read/write' and simply turns itself off. This was the case with 2.4.20-??? from cooker over the original 9.0 install and with a current complete cooker install with the 2.4.21- p45/p46. I can still boot into the 2.4.19-24 from 9.0, but all the cooker kernels have the same effect - turn my machine off. I am assuming it might have something to do with the ACPI stuff, but thats really a wild guess at this time. I would send more information but it seems that my syslog and messages are not getting updated before the machine turns itself off. Suggestions? Anyone else seen this problem? -Rob
Re: [Cooker] Can we please have a NON-AA QT 2.3.0?
Ahhhaaa, I found the option just a bit ago... I am VERY happy and retract my request for a seperate QT 2.3.0 on the disk. I might suggest that it ship with AA turned off however. -Rob - Original Message - From: "Andrej Borsenkow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: RE: [Cooker] Can we please have a NON-AA QT 2.3.0? I've read yesterday, that KDE has to be rebuilt with qt-2.3.0 and AA-enabled XFree86, and then you have option in KDE control center to turn AA on or off. Is it true? -andrej -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Snow Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:17 PM To: Mandrake cooker list Subject: [Cooker] Can we please have a NON-AA QT 2.3.0? I think it will be important to have a non-AA QT-2.3.0 included since you have an exclusive choice of AA'ed or non-AA'ed fonts with 2.3.0. Additionally, I understand that a few of the servers do not support the RENDER extension that is required for AA support. (The NVIDIA binary only server comes to mind first) I was using QT 2.2.4 until the KDE update of this morning, which now pukes on QT 2.2.4 with a DCOP error. -rob
[Cooker] Can we please have a NON-AA QT 2.3.0?
I think it will be important to have a non-AA QT-2.3.0 included since you have an exclusive choice of AA'ed or non-AA'ed fonts with 2.3.0. Additionally, I understand that a few of the servers do not support the RENDER extension that is required for AA support. (The NVIDIA binary only server comes to mind first) I was using QT 2.2.4 until the KDE update of this morning, which now pukes on QT 2.2.4 with a DCOP error. -rob
Re: [Cooker] Workable fix for fonts under QT 2.3
As Arnd reports, it appears that you can either have AA'ed font or _old_style_ fonts under QT 2.3. Further, it would appear that when using AA'ed fonts you need to define them with a XftConfig file or you will only get _FIXED_. So if we are to effectively use QT 2.3 in a workable manner, someone will need to make a nice XftConfig and probably change DrakFont to understand how to generate a XftConfig files. My suggestion would be to build QT 2.3 with standard fonts and include a second on one the distrubition that supports AA. -Rob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Workable fix for fonts under QT 2.3 So what changed all of a sudden in Qt to break the fonts? Seems like I should be able to chose from more than a list of 1 the font I want to use with a QT based program.
[Cooker] QT 2.3.0 from this morning
I'm sure you are going to get a few of these, but after installing (rpm -Fvh * in cooker/Mandrake/RPMS) QT 2.3.0 I get a unusable KDE environment. Konsole is using some HORRIBLE font that does not render correctly and I see only Bitstream Charter in Control Center. Strangely, if I select Use Default in Control Center for fonts, I am given a couple more options. I would assume that we are seeing some type of update in /etc/X11 or such, but I am not sure. X11 and fonts has always been something I've _tried_ to avoid. Note: I have my Windows TT fonts installed. -Rob
[Cooker] Workable fix for fonts under QT 2.3
WARNING: This is a simplistic fix to a deeper problem that I _really_ don't want to solve as I HATE dealing with font issues. Having said this, it should put you guys on the right track. The problem with fonts seems to be that in QT 2.3 you need to have a XftConfig file to define your font mappings for QT -- X11. To fix todays cooker to make it somewhat usable, do the following: * Go to http://keithp.com/~keithp/fonts/ and get truetype.tar.gz and XftConfig * untar the truetype.tar.gz into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype * put the XftConfig file into /etc/X11 * edit it to make sure it's pointing to the new fonts (has a dir set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype) * restart X Problem with this is that you lose all your drakfonts (windows fonts you've added through DrakFont) and the mapping seem pretty bad for some things (konsole), BUT it does give you a working framework to make things much better and hopefully enumerate what the basic problem seems to be. PLEASE someone who can deal with fonts take a look at this. Just doing this much with fonts has caused me to start drinking heavily and banging my head on the wall =) -Rob
Re: [Cooker] BSD Kernel + Mandrake
I run FreeBSD on my servers and Linux on my desktops and have for over 5 years. I ran FreeBSD before I ever ran Linux and have recently switched to using Mandrake as my primary Linux distribution. FreeBSD and Linux are very different animals. We could spend the better part of several years deciding which is better, but it basically comes down to the Holy Wars of the 80's and 90's between the BSD and SysV folks. I humbly submit that they are both great OSes with differing aims, distribution and development models. -Rob - Original Message - From: "Shannon Matteson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] BSD Kernel + Mandrake Joshman, I heartily agree that the BSD is currently more scalable, but the point of (or one of the points of) Linux Mandrake is ease of use, and to switch kernels would be so huge a setback for the distro that you might as well start at 1.0. It would indeed be a step backwards, not only for the developers of LM, but for consistency and probably ease of use, as well. Of course, I am far from an expert, so I am quite possibly wrong. Sure, *BSD is more stable. But Linux and *BSD are separate for a reason, methinks. If you like *BSD, then use *BSD! If you wanna use both, use VMWare! Shannon josh mann wrote: Don't be so closed minded. The bsd kernel is more scalable than linux has ever been. a step back? not necessaraly. a leap forward in the server market. although not everyone will have a use for it, it would support what linux is all about: freedom. -joshmann
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake update
Brian, You are not alone. I purposefully went through the different ways that I thought made sense to upgrade last night and had no luck. I tried: * rpmdrake: wouldn't let met add a distribution outside of it's known Cooker Disk 1 and Cooker Disk 2. It would gather info from a directory (/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS) or from a Cooker mirror and make a dist.cz file, however, I couldn't select that distribution in the _check mark_ screen. * MandrakeUpdate: would bomb (crash) when setting a mirror. At this time, I'm rsync'ing Cooker on my fileserver and the rpm -Fvh *'ing the cooker/Mandrake/RPMS directory. I wish there was a more elegant and intuitive way to do this, but I can't seem to find it. -Rob - Original Message - From: "Brian J. Murrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake update On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:00:51AM +0100, Warly wrote: Vincent Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we're not going to be using Mandrake Update in the future, is there a relatively newbee proof graphic updater to take it's place? Sorry if this already was covered.. rpmdrake Would somebody please explain to me how rpmdrake can be used to update Cooker? Everytime I start it up the list of packages is the same. It is not getting a new list of packages when I start it up like MandrakeUpdate does. Am I the only person who does NOT get this? Thanx, b. -- Brian J. Murrell
[Cooker] Stopping 'Press I for interactive startup' from wrapping (patch)
Please commit this patch and help me retain my sanity =) This will keep 'Welcome to Linux Mandrake' and 'Press "I" for interactive startup" from wrapping screen on vesa startup (vga=788/791/etc). \n would not work so I had to find an appropriate string to move the cursor back to column 1. I blatantly ripped it off from /etc/sysconfig/init where it is used to define where [OK] or [FAIL] will appear during non-Aurora boot. -Rob *** rc.sysinit Tue Feb 27 07:29:19 2001 --- rc.sysinit.fixedThu Mar 1 10:46:09 2001 *** *** 36,48 # C-like escape sequences don't work as 2nd and up parameters of gprintf, # so real escap chars were written if [ "$BOOTUP" != "serial" ]; then ! gprintf "\t\t\tWelcome to Linux %sMandrake%s" `echo -en "\\033[1;36m"` `echo -en "\\033[0;39m"` else gprintf "\t\t\tWelcome to Linux %sMandrake%s" "" "" fi echo if [ "$PROMPT" != "no" ]; then ! gprintf "\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup." echo sleep 1 fi --- 36,48 # C-like escape sequences don't work as 2nd and up parameters of gprintf, # so real escap chars were written if [ "$BOOTUP" != "serial" ]; then ! gprintf "%s\t\t\tWelcome to Linux %sMandrake%s" `echo -en "\\033[1G"` `echo -en "\\033[1;36m"` `echo -e "\\033[0;39m"` else gprintf "\t\t\tWelcome to Linux %sMandrake%s" "" "" fi echo if [ "$PROMPT" != "no" ]; then ! gprintf "%s\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup.%s" `echo -en "\\033[1G"` `echo -en "\\033[1G"` echo sleep 1 fi
Re: [Cooker] BSD Kernel + Mandrake
[Gathers his troll hunting pike from the shed] Are there any plans to integrate the BSD Kernel into Mandrake? Huh? Double huh? Secondly, are there any plans to ditch RPM for DEB? Slashdot seems to make everyone a instant expert. Why does Mandrake stay with RPM anyway (besides it is what is being used now)? And you have been using Mandrake for how long? Wait, have you even bothered to install any Linux or FreeBSD yet (or other OS for that matter)? [Returns you to your normal program] -Rob - Original Message - From: "josh mann" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: [Cooker] BSD Kernel + Mandrake Are there any plans to integrate the BSD Kernel into Mandrake? Secondly, are there any plans to ditch RPM for DEB? Why does Mandrake stay with RPM anyway (besides it is what is being used now)? Thanks, -Joshmann _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
[Cooker] kernel-2.4.2-1mdk wrong sublevel (1 instead of 2)
Obviously, causes all kinds of problems, fix is to change sublevel to 2 from 1 in /usr/src/linux Makefile, rebuild. -Rob
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.2-1mdk wrong sublevel (1 instead of 2)
I would think it will install, but just be pretty unhappy on reboot, as /lib/modules/2.4.2-1 has the modules and the kernel thinks it's 2.4.1-1. If you can boot happy enough to rebuild the kernel without modules, you should be okay, I would think. -Rob - Original Message - From: "Bill Schweder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake cooker list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.2-1mdk wrong sublevel (1 instead of 2) Will this prevent me from installing Cooker from scratch? On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Rob Snow wrote: Obviously, causes all kinds of problems, fix is to change sublevel to 2 from 1 in /usr/src/linux Makefile, rebuild. -Rob
[Cooker] 2.4.1-16mdk broken for Athlon/K7 modules?
(Please excuse if you got dupes on this mail, it would be at this end.) Mostly a heads up mail, before I start digging. Is it a know problem (locally or to 2.4.1) that I get bunk modules when building 2.4.1(-16mdk)? (bunk == depmod explodes with unresolved symbols) make mrproper; make menuconfig (no changes made); make dep; make bzImage; make modules; make modules_install If this isn't normal or known, I'll send *much* more debugging info. Just wanted to check before I dig and send an inordinate amount of debugging info. Oh, /usr/bin/gcc - /usr/bin/kgcc and cooker is up to date as of yesterday...18 Feb 01 -Rob
