Re: [Cooker] crap headers (was rpm-4.0.3-0.37mdk)
- Original Message - From: "Neuromancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] crap headers (was rpm-4.0.3-0.37mdk) > Thus spake Ben Reser about Life, the Universe, and Everything: > | On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:43:28PM -0500, Neuromancer wrote: > | > Damn. That MUST be the problem. Thanks... > | > | Nothing. But it does have something to do with my desire to help you. > | Based upon the amount you post here and the extra crap bytes in your > | messages you waste you waste a fair amount of bandwidth for all of us. > > Bandwidth? Don't talk to me about bandwidth. I live out in the boonies here > where there's no DSL or cable modem service available. Even the phone lines > suck. I'm lucky to get a 31.2 bps connection. > > For your information, my "crap headers", as you call them, take up approximately > 632 bytes. Now if 632 bytes times an average of three postings on a good day is > wasting your bandwidth, I pity you. Your connection to the net must be even > worse than mine. > > -Russ just say meow :p
Re: [Cooker] Firstime time wizard
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Firstime time wizard > Ok, I'll get over it. Personally it doesn't bother me (other than the fact > you KNOW it bothers others). > > In the meantime, perhaps you could explain why the foul language (which is > obviously offensive to some) is required here? > > On Tuesday 18 September 2001 05:55 am, you wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: Fabrice FACORAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Firstime time wizard > > > > > Why the fuck are you talking of Coran ? ( beautiful isn't it ) mine is > > > > Holy > > > > > Bible ( catholic ) and what's the difference ? it's just a question of to > > > > be > > > > > polite and well-mannered > > > > Yeah lets fuckin have some manners heh. > > > > lol, get over it folks top poster argh lol. Guy starts off with "Why the fuck ..." and then goes on about being polite. I thought it was funny. Serious though, there's so much other crap to worry about and get pissed about that some foul language can easily be ignored. Besides, you do know how to use filters right?
Re: [Cooker] please test fstab munching code
on 08/20/2001 07:54 PM, steve at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 07:07:32PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >> Sorry, >> Blue-wishing emacs would leave off the excessive ccs to every address on the >> planet. > > > Maybe fix your word wrap to. ;) can I steal you're sig? /me, hoping it's open source
Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why "Linux sucks"...
on 8/9/01 12:52 AM, David Walluck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Terrible Tom wrote: > >> My vote is for the minimal porn station > > We'd best not vote on this unless we want it to end up in the > distribution, as I'm sure you're not the only one who wants this > > As much as I'd like it, I just don't think it would fly :) heh :)
Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why "Linux sucks"...
on 8/8/01 7:17 PM, Blue Lizard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What reasons the nondrakes would know is simply that minimal install is a > different thing for each person. Thus the point of trying to figure out > purpose focused installs so minimal webserver minimal mailserver minimal > fileserver minimal office station.minimal game station (console or x?) minimal > porn shop or whatever. cuz minimal game station does not require traceroute, > nor does apache require xf86. minimal shminimal. > Thus that would be good for defined install (recommended/defined/expert, see > where i'm heading?).Pixel could have much much fun. > My vote is for the minimal porn station
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mac PPC
on 8/8/01 6:09 PM, Stew Benedict at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Terrible Tom wrote: > >>>>>> I wonder if there's a snowballs chance in hell mandrake could ever be >>>>>> compiled for a Mac PPC >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Isn't there a Mandrake PPC version??? >>>>> >> >> i'm hunting it now lol >> >> i'm in Montreal canada, i got a imac g3 here at the office begging for it :) >> > ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/ > > Is one site... > > Stew Benedict gracia :)
Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why "Linux sucks"...
on 8/8/01 3:16 PM, Chris Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > and who uses aurora? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terrible Tom > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why "Linux sucks"... > > > on 8/8/01 2:17 PM, Pixel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> [...] >> >>> Neither of these options require rcoket science to implement, yeat, >>> steadfastedly, Mandrake refuses to add these simple options. >>> >>> Why? >> >> simple: too dangerous. eg, try installing redhat on 300MB, it's hard! >> >> - minimum install => people don't have many stuff installed and can't make >> their system working >> - maximum install => more install pbs, less tested, conflicts, weird slow >> services... Even more true with Contribs being available at install! > > Agreed, i tried doing a minimal install of another distro on my mac this > morning, eeek! > > >> >>> (While at the same time weighting down the installations with cutting > edge, >>> but largely unnecessary apps, and leaving out relatively useful and >>> established files (like the rather obscure 'traceroute'). >> >> i've never used traceroute so i don't care much ;pp >> >> anyway, at the moment, it's in 'Utilities', like lsof, tcpdump... >> it could be moved to the default install. >> (though i won't move lsof unless its doc is lowered to a reasonable size) >> > > i still think it's funny that gimp gets installed but not traceroute, but > thats another story ( nothing against gimp either, just that I doubt many > people use it much ) > > > > the same people who top post :) aurora could have been cool, too bad it died though. I hate posting to the list, mostly cause i'm no developer, barely able to code, and only half decent at scripting. But since I use 3 pcs here for mandrake and cooker, I sometimes get the gonads to post my opinions on somethings
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mac PPC
on 8/8/01 4:15 PM, Blue Lizard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 08 Aug 2001 11:30:16 -0400, Terrible Tom wrote: >> on 8/8/01 10:34 AM, Grégoire Colbert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Terrible Tom wrote: >>> >>>> But yes, back to Mandrake :) >>>> >>>> I wonder if there's a snowballs chance in hell mandrake could ever be >>>> compiled for a Mac PPC >>>> >>> >>> Isn't there a Mandrake PPC version??? >>> >>> Grégoire >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> If there is, I can't find any mention of it. >> >> I'm known to be a little slow though >> >> > > Yes, just not on every mirror. I dunno where you live, and I'll not > list all the mirrors, but there _is_ ppc ed. > i'm hunting it now lol i'm in Montreal canada, i got a imac g3 here at the office begging for it :)
Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why "Linux sucks"...
on 8/8/01 2:17 PM, Pixel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > >> Neither of these options require rcoket science to implement, yeat, >> steadfastedly, Mandrake refuses to add these simple options. >> >> Why? > > simple: too dangerous. eg, try installing redhat on 300MB, it's hard! > > - minimum install => people don't have many stuff installed and can't make > their system working > - maximum install => more install pbs, less tested, conflicts, weird slow > services... Even more true with Contribs being available at install! Agreed, i tried doing a minimal install of another distro on my mac this morning, eeek! > >> (While at the same time weighting down the installations with cutting edge, >> but largely unnecessary apps, and leaving out relatively useful and >> established files (like the rather obscure 'traceroute'). > > i've never used traceroute so i don't care much ;pp > > anyway, at the moment, it's in 'Utilities', like lsof, tcpdump... > it could be moved to the default install. > (though i won't move lsof unless its doc is lowered to a reasonable size) > i still think it's funny that gimp gets installed but not traceroute, but thats another story ( nothing against gimp either, just that I doubt many people use it much )
Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why "Linux sucks"...
on 8/8/01 1:44 PM, Harry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 8/6/01 6:07 PM, "Thierry Vignaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> First, let me say that having to untick all the boxes to get the "Holy >>> Minimal >>> Install" is inefficient, not to say ridiculous. >> >> unselect XFree86-libs and you'll end in only ~90-100Mb of packages to install >> :-) > > That's nice, and I'm sure that the newbies that are gifted with the power of > prediction and mind-reading will have no trouble figuring this out. > > Since as far back as I can recall, there have been regular echoes of > requests for the options of 'select all' (in fact, commonly still pointed > out as a flaw in reviews) and 'minimum install'. > > Neither of these options require rcoket science to implement, yeat, > steadfastedly, Mandrake refuses to add these simple options. > > Why? > > (While at the same time weighting down the installations with cutting edge, > but largely unnecessary apps, and leaving out relatively useful and > established files (like the rather obscure 'traceroute'). > > Sometimes I really wonder. > > Harry > > just for kicks and giggles and I did an install all on a redhat install today, and guess what? Wouldnt even boot lol. i think the problem is not enough testing, too much stuff to conflict with each other. mind you, i'm no linux expert at all, I'm just an OS junky who really likes mandrake
Re: [Noise] [FUD] [Crap] Re: [Cooker] PR Machine
on 8/8/01 10:39 AM, Guillaume Rousse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ainsi parlait Terrible Tom : >> I wonder if there's a snowballs chance in hell mandrake could ever be >> compiled for a Mac PPC > Never heard of cooker-ppc ? Okay, je me sens un peu stupide a matin Excuser moi :) Ok I feel a bit stupid this morning Forgive me :)
Re: [Noise] [FUD] [Crap] Re: [Cooker] PR Machine
on 8/8/01 8:21 AM, Grégoire Colbert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > sights. ;) > >> Way off topic, but I hate to see FUD spread. > > I visited the URL (the second one), and Steve Gibson seems to be a > Microsoft defender. So why would he lie in this issue? This would be > rather illogical. Only to get some attention? That could be. Though he > obviously lies when he says that he cares about the "future of > Internet". A vast majority of servers are Un*x running Apache. > > Anyway, let's focus on Linux-Mandrake. > > Grégoire > > Steve Gibson is one of the owners of zole Alarm, , a win32 firewall. The tactic seems to get them paranoid at the grc site, then send em to the xonealarm one. Anything said by Mr Gibson should be taken with a grain of salt so to speak But yes, back to Mandrake :) I wonder if there's a snowballs chance in hell mandrake could ever be compiled for a Mac PPC
Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why "Linux sucks"...
on 8/3/01 2:24 PM, Digital Wokan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A bare minimum would be a nice option. I have a router/firewall at home > that I do put to occassional other uses. Starting it off from the > smallest possible install would be a nice choice. > I've moved to the freesco floppy install for firewall/routing now instead of MDK. Runs off a 486, 16 megs of ram, no HD, and two ethernet cards. It manages everything on the network nicely, except my macs ( you can all stop laughing now ) which I have vpn'd to the office. On my Macs, I use a combo of yellow dog linux and Mac OS 9.1, while I run Mandrake on my main pc, and slack on a lesser powered pentium pro 200. The slack box becomes a cooker box every once in a while though :)
Re: [Cooker] winmodem? 8.0?
> I have an Intel modem in a shoe-box(came with the pc) and the drivers for > that one are for 2.2.17ish. Not 2.4. and what i understand it doesn't work > with it > As bad as that may sound. Listen to this I have a bunch of 3-com 3c450 pci 10/100 ethernet cards, very nice cards too. In the Mandrake box, work flawlessly. I throw one in this machine.. Win2k Pro, no drivers. Ok, I load up the cd, no win2k drivers. same on the website. Back to my 3c509 hehe ALT.2600.WAREZ AWARD : ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!!
Re: [Cooker] Oh here I am in windows
Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Terrible Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, updated the kernel to 2.4.3-22mdk > > > > Kinda a mistake on my part, here's what happened > > > > Basicaly, on reboot, mdk was unable to find my soundcard module es**70, my > > ethernet card ( 3com 3c-450 ( uses the 3c590 cyclone module) my usb module. > > > > I tried running hard drake drom console, ran config tools, selected > > apropriate modules, but got error saying it couldnt locate them. > > > > Now if this is just user stupidity, apologies to all for wasting your time, > > but figured I'd post something in case it was a real problem > > > it is not what do you have in your /etc/lilo.conf ? Being the impatient SOB I am, I reinstalled. I'll recreate the event tonight, and if i get the same results, I'll let you know
[Cooker] Oh here I am in windows
Well, updated the kernel to 2.4.3-22mdk Kinda a mistake on my part, here's what happened Basicaly, on reboot, mdk was unable to find my soundcard module es**70, my ethernet card ( 3com 3c-450 ( uses the 3c590 cyclone module) my usb module. I tried running hard drake drom console, ran config tools, selected apropriate modules, but got error saying it couldnt locate them. Now if this is just user stupidity, apologies to all for wasting your time, but figured I'd post something in case it was a real problem Thanks.
Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!
On Sunday 29 April 2001 06:06, you wrote: > Sarang Lakare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > - No flash plugin (and kdebase-nsplugins) installed by default on a > > distro targetting newbies and the desktop.. is it that difficult to > > understand that this package is a must for LM? > > i don't like proprietary stuff ;p me neither, but I must admit to getting fed up with hitting cancel as I surf lol > > > - No telnet installed by default.. its easy to install but still.. > > fixing Cool, not that I think telnet is sucha greathing, ssh for me anydayt.. > > > - No "kdevelop" installed although I selected "development" in the > > package selection.. kdevelop is one of the best IDEs out there which can > > start you off developing linux applications right away.. > > fixing Very cool, was wondering what happened to that > > > - No "gdm"... > > strange, it should be installed if you chose gnome... It was here
Re: [Cooker] Whois
On Friday 27 April 2001 22:22, you wrote: > bash: whois: command not found > What happened to whois? take that back, you're right it is gone :(
Re: [Cooker] Whois
On Friday 27 April 2001 22:22, you wrote: > bash: whois: command not found > What happened to whois? install bind-utils :)
Re: [Cooker] pan-0.9.6-1mdk EXTREMELY slow...
On Friday 27 April 2001 15:25, you wrote: > Hello. > > I've just tried pan 0.9.6 after quite some time. Now when I post a follow > up to a message, writing is *EXTREMELY* slow. I can see how every letter > is written - eg. I guess this sentence would have taken about 20 to 30 > seconds to show up, if typed in a normal speed. > > Is anyone else having these problems? If not, I'd still like to know, so > that I can contact the authors > > Alexander Skwar Same here Don't have an answer, but yeah i can see letter by letter of what i type in it. Specs if that helps.. p2 450 196 megs ram v3 3000
Re: [Cooker] where is 8.0
- Original Message - From: Alan Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 02:17 TomsQ Subject: Re: [Cooker] where is 8.0 > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Matthew D. Pitts wrote: > > > check http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3 > > Every one I have tried is either slower than dead possums or not accepting > new ftp sessions. > Well with a new Redhat release, new Mandrake release, and I think even Slack or caldera ( not sure) the ftps are getting nailed hard. I got lucky tonight, a friend @ a university got his hands on it and is letting me grab it from him ( 400K a sec too lol) Give it a couple days and I'm sure it'll calm down. Maybe there should be a mirror for cooker people :)
Re: [Cooker] HD ISO install
Don't shoot the messenger :) Just trying to help out I used to do all my installs by ftp, but my isp uses pppoe and I havent figured out how to do it with that yet But this time around, I'm going to wait for it to hit the shelves and buy the cds. BTW, was roaring penguins pppoe included in the distro? Just curious - Original Message - From: Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 19:33 TomsQ Subject: Re: [Cooker] HD ISO install > "Terrible Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Do a search for cdmage in google > > > > You can extract the iso's to your HD and install from there. > > > > CDmage is freeware and is a godsend for us without burners > > ;-)) > > A thingy for poor Windows users who can't mount something as a loopback > device? Very funny :-)).. > > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ >
Re: [Cooker] HD ISO install
Do a search for cdmage in google You can extract the iso's to your HD and install from there. CDmage is freeware and is a godsend for us without burners - Original Message - From: Marcio Conceicao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 09:33 TomsQ Subject: [Cooker] HD ISO install > > > Hi! > > I have iso of CD1 and CD2 of mandrake 8 final. This files are at windows > partition and I want to install packages of MDK8 from this two ISO's. I > think Mandrake Install don't detect the two ISOS's, it's right? If is right > it's is a good feature to add. > > Thanks, > > Marcio > >
[Cooker] Roaring Penguin
Is Roaring Penguins pppoe client/server being included with the distro? Just curious. The rpms can be found @ www.roaringpenguin.com It's the best pppoe client I've used in nix so far
Re: [Cooker] Screwed my distro :-(
Please don't write in html :) folks - Original Message - From: Giles Hamlin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Screwed my distro :-( Shalrath wrote: After upgrading XFree86 and Nautilus today, I have found myself unableto boot into Linux at all. Did you upgrade ALL the XFree86 pacakges? (or all the 4.0.2-5mdk ones at least) Well I did, but halfway through upgrading XFree86, my machine hung, I had to do an rpm --rebuilddb and then when I tried to reupgrade it, I was told it already existed. I thought nothing of it at the time, but maybe this has something to do with it? Now, on my machine here.. libXmu.so.6 is a symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6.2[shalrath@charybdis ~/share]$ rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.*XFree86-static-libs-4.0.3-5mdkXFree86-devel-4.0.3-5md kXFree86-libs-4.0.3-5mdkXFree86-libs-4.0.3-5mdk[shalrath@charybdis ~/share]$rpm -qf (file) will tell you what package a file belongs to.please do an rpm -qa |grep XFree86 and make sure all packages appear with the same version/build number. Ie, all should state XFree86-*-4.0.3-5mdkTo be on the safe side, make sure that /etc/ld.so.conf contains a line stating: /usr/X11R6/liband run ldconfig as root afterwards. Thanks! Will try this!
Re: [Cooker] Cooker ISOs are not bootable?
agreed My PC doesnt even have a floppy drive :) - Original Message - From: "Andreas Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: [Cooker] Cooker ISOs are not bootable? > Hello, > > I just created ISO images from my local Cooker > mirror by using the mkcds script. The resulting > ISO images are not bootable. I think the era of > boot floppy disks is over, isn't it? > > Cheers, > Andreas Simon >
Re: [Cooker] Cooker burned CDs
i'll extend that offer to Candians. I'm not much help on the tech end, asd I'm pretty much a newbie, but i got a fat pipe, and a fast burner, and blanks are cheap anyhow. So if any Canadians want it burned and mailed, just lemme know [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alberto Vorano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: R: [Cooker] Cooker burned CDs Thank You for your reply. My present connection is very slow. I would like to have a copy of Tractopel as new as you can. Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for reciprocal details Best Regards Alberto Vorano - Original Message - From: Giles Hamlin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cooker burned CDs I'll willingly burn cookers for anyone European-based, takes me about 20 minutes to download a 650MB image at college :-PAlberto Vorano wrote: 000101c0ac05$dbe97ce0$ef02a8c0@boss type="cite"> Hi to all I have to report that Allxan, listed in the Cooker burners list never replied to me in over than one month time. When, to night, I tried to reach them once more, I had back an Address Unknown error. So I suggest to detect if they are yet alive or not. BTW, I'll be very happy if someone can let me know if there is at least another European burner to apply for Cooker and, hopefully Traktopel Beta too. Best Regards Alberto Vorano -- Get $$$ just for being online No clicking - no limits - no catch http://www.DesktopDollars.com/default.asp?id=Gilesx
