Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 05:58:40PM +1200, Steve Martin wrote: I'm new to this beta testing stuff so I hope this isn't a silly or repeat question. Ive been trying to install 7.2 beta 2 onto the second harddrive on my system but keep getting the error "can't call ask_warn on an undefined value". Fixed in beta 3. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org "Heuristics are bug ridden by definition. If they didn't have bugs, then they'd be algorithms."
[Cooker] 7.2 beta2
I'm new to this beta testing stuff so I hope this isn't a silly or repeat question. Ive been trying to install 7.2 beta 2 onto the second harddrive on my system but keep getting the error "can't call ask_warn on an undefined value". This appears at about the partition table stage (even when attempting to use the existing partitions) I havetried both the graphical and text based install and it also appears when attemting a rescue of the existing mandrake installation (6.1). Any ideas?
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 remarks
Try CUPS to make it working for the first time. I have already informed the author of printerdrake to check this problem. Till Job Diesveld wrote: Tried to install beta 2 of Linux-Mandrake today, everything went well although installation took quite some time, some minor packages like locales-fa took more than 1 minute to install. But this to the side. While trying to install my HP Deskjet 720c I selected lpd as the interface instead of CUPS. Finally you get a window where you can select the type of printer you have (remote/local etc). I choose for a local printer, after that I press the button OK, I get a message that "one package is being installed" and after that the installation hangs. I try to kill X with control-alt-backspace which gets me to the shell. If I try to halt or reboot I get some error messages like "sh: cannot find shutdown" and I have to reset my system in order to get my computer to the land of the living. If I try to install without printer support I don't face any irregularities. Greetings. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
robert a écrit : what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? XMMS works fine when I run as root, but when I run XMMS as a user I get an error message about permissions denying access to /dev/dsp I had the same problem, reported it some time ago. I keep synchronized to cooker, and miracle : xmms now works as normal user. So, I suspect a bug fix was commited a few days ago, but don't know which package configures this.
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? I also have a problem. I have no [xkg]dm running on my machine. I log on a virtual console, and then issue a startx most of the time. Everything is good, and /dev/dsp becomes bertou:audio upon login. However, I sometimes log off from the console, staying in the X session (nohuped). Is there a way not to have the ownership of /dev/dsp to go back to root ? Another thing, the permissions are 640 when owned by root. If it were 660, I could just add me in the audio group and it would be Ok. Is there some reason for not having the permissions set to 660 ?
Re: Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2
Thank you, but my english must be very bad :-))) On sunsite.uio.no ( same on ftp.sunet.se ) there are two paths: /pub/Linux/Mandrake-devel/7.2beta/i586/ /pub/Linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker The path that contains 7.2beta is continuously UPDATED. Something wrong on theese mirrors? Alessandro On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Antony Suter wrote: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:31:19 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Antony Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 allx wrote: Hope that this time someone from mandrake team give me some feedback. The 7.2beta is "frozen" or not? Just yesterday night I have completed the mirroring on my hd. This morning I have checked sunsite.uio.no and... what surprise I'm connected from the 7:00 AM(14/09/2000), any time that fmirror reports that the job is complete, just for check before CD burning, I execute fmirror again and... other 60Mb are on the way!!! Now, 04:00 AM (15/9/2000), my ISDN card still working on sunsite.uio.no! The flag "update_in_progress" is always present! Some people in Italy asked for Mandrake beta but ... 7.2beta??? Please, stop the updates in 7.2beta and give the time to the listed "Cooker burned CD".. to make some CD :-))) Or, If possible, tell me the time in the day when all updates are stopped for some hour :-)) Alessandro The mirror sites will hold two versions, the "7.2 beta 2" which is frozen and the "cooker" which continues to be updated. -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2
allx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hope that this time someone from mandrake team give me some feedback. The 7.2beta is "frozen" or not? Just yesterday night I have completed the mirroring on my hd. This morning I have checked sunsite.uio.no and... what surprise I'm connected from the 7:00 AM(14/09/2000), any time that fmirror reports that the job is complete, just for check before CD burning, I execute fmirror again and... other 60Mb are on the way!!! Now, 04:00 AM (15/9/2000), my ISDN card still working on sunsite.uio.no! The flag "update_in_progress" is always present! Some people in Italy asked for Mandrake beta but ... 7.2beta??? Please, stop the updates in 7.2beta and give the time to the listed "Cooker burned CD".. to make some CD :-))) Or, If possible, tell me the time in the day when all updates are stopped for some hour :-)) 7.2 is frozen in the way that only new release (no version, except if really necessary) are done in it. In about two weeks, we gonna go in deep freeze where no more versions or releases will be allowed except for release critical bug fixes. -- Warly
Re: Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2
Ok, thank you for clarification But the problem, for me, is the same. I said that installation does not work if I have USB enabled from bios. In the last five days I have downloaded lots of kernels, XFree, cups... Never got the chance to try if now works. When, in the day, I can get the full mirror before Mandrake team restart to upload? I have ISDN, not cable or ADSL :( Thank you Alessandro On 15 Sep 2000, Warly wrote: Date: 15 Sep 2000 12:05:25 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: "Cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 allx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hope that this time someone from mandrake team give me some feedback. The 7.2beta is "frozen" or not? Just yesterday night I have completed the mirroring on my hd. This morning I have checked sunsite.uio.no and... what surprise I'm connected from the 7:00 AM(14/09/2000), any time that fmirror reports that the job is complete, just for check before CD burning, I execute fmirror again and... other 60Mb are on the way!!! Now, 04:00 AM (15/9/2000), my ISDN card still working on sunsite.uio.no! The flag "update_in_progress" is always present! Some people in Italy asked for Mandrake beta but ... 7.2beta??? Please, stop the updates in 7.2beta and give the time to the listed "Cooker burned CD".. to make some CD :-))) Or, If possible, tell me the time in the day when all updates are stopped for some hour :-)) 7.2 is frozen in the way that only new release (no version, except if really necessary) are done in it. In about two weeks, we gonna go in deep freeze where no more versions or releases will be allowed except for release critical bug fixes. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? XMMS works fine when I run as root, but when I run XMMS as a user I get an error message about permissions denying access to /dev/dsp the user physically logon on the machine should get it for him. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? XMMS works fine when I run as root, but when I run XMMS as a user I get an error message about permissions denying access to /dev/dsp the user physically logon on the machine should get it for him. Yes, it should :-) In my own case, it's pure fantasy. For the moment i have : lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 11 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/dsp - ../dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 3 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 19 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 35 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 51 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp3 [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ ll /dev/mixer* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/mixer - ../dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 0 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 16 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 32 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 48 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer3 /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp symlink doesn't have the same group !? And what's the use of audio group in this situation ? Some time owner of the real devices isn't the user, but root (or system, i can't remember), and audio group doesn't have write perms. So i have to change them by hand. I can't trace back such change to a particular config change (mostly due to my daily frenetic cooker upgrade mania), but if someone could tell me which scripts are responsible for establishing those perms, i'd like to have a look. I precise i didn't change my security level, who stays medium. -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? XMMS works fine when I run as root, but when I run XMMS as a user I get an error message about permissions denying access to /dev/dsp the user physically logon on the machine should get it for him. Yes, it should :-) In my own case, it's pure fantasy. For the moment i have : lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 11 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/dsp - .../dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 3 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 19 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 35 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 51 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp3 [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ ll /dev/mixer* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/mixer - .../dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 0 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 16 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 32 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 48 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer3 /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp symlink doesn't have the same group !? And what's the use of audio group in this situation ? Groups and users for a symlink don't matter at all. See the permissions of the symlink itself : rwxrwxrwx, always. What matters is the file pointed to. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2
alix, I'm not from the Mandrake team, but you must have somehow missed noticing the Mandrake/.update_in_progress file being downloaded. That's plainly telling you that the mirror you are using is still update-in-progress. In other words, the frozen beta2 has not yet reached the two primary mirrors. Warly (Mandrake Team) tells us the VERSION file of the frozen beta2 contains the string: Linux-Mandrake Ulysses-Beta2-i586 2910 21:42 So we have to wait for that, or later, to appear on the mirrors. allx wrote: Hope that this time someone from mandrake team give me some feedback. The 7.2beta is "frozen" or not? Just yesterday night I have completed the mirroring on my hd. This morning I have checked sunsite.uio.no and... what surprise -- Regards, Ron. [AU]
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
David Faure a écrit : Groups and users for a symlink don't matter at all. See the permissions of the symlink itself : rwxrwxrwx, always. What matters is the file pointed to. I know that, i just wanted to point out some level of incoherency in login script setting perms : same situation, different results. -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
My /dev/dsp is not linked to anything. Also it stays owned by root even when I log in as another user. Is that correct? From what I understand from your email /dev/dsp should be a link and /dev/dsp should be owned by the user when the user logs in. My computer boots up to kdm. Robert On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? XMMS works fine when I run as root, but when I run XMMS as a user I get an error message about permissions denying access to /dev/dsp the user physically logon on the machine should get it for him. Yes, it should :-) In my own case, it's pure fantasy. For the moment i have : lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 11 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/dsp - .../dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 3 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 19 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 35 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 51 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp3 [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ ll /dev/mixer* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/mixer - .../dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 0 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 16 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 32 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 48 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer3 /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp symlink doesn't have the same group !? And what's the use of audio group in this situation ? Groups and users for a symlink don't matter at all. See the permissions of the symlink itself : rwxrwxrwx, always. What matters is the file pointed to.
[Cooker] 7.2 beta2 remarks
Tried to install beta 2 of Linux-Mandrake today, everything went well although installation took quite some time, some minor packages like locales-fa took more than 1 minute to install. But this to the side. While trying to install my HP Deskjet 720c I selected lpd as the interface instead of CUPS. Finally you get a window where you can select the type of printer you have (remote/local etc). I choose for a local printer, after that I press the button OK, I get a message that "one package is being installed" and after that the installation hangs. I try to kill X with control-alt-backspace which gets me to the shell. If I try to halt or reboot I get some error messages like "sh: cannot find shutdown" and I have to reset my system in order to get my computer to the land of the living. If I try to install without printer support I don't face any irregularities. Greetings. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
[Cooker] 7.2 beta2
Hope that this time someone from mandrake team give me some feedback. The 7.2beta is "frozen" or not? Just yesterday night I have completed the mirroring on my hd. This morning I have checked sunsite.uio.no and... what surprise I'm connected from the 7:00 AM(14/09/2000), any time that fmirror reports that the job is complete, just for check before CD burning, I execute fmirror again and... other 60Mb are on the way!!! Now, 04:00 AM (15/9/2000), my ISDN card still working on sunsite.uio.no! The flag "update_in_progress" is always present! Some people in Italy asked for Mandrake beta but ... 7.2beta??? Please, stop the updates in 7.2beta and give the time to the listed "Cooker burned CD".. to make some CD :-))) Or, If possible, tell me the time in the day when all updates are stopped for some hour :-)) Alessandro
[Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? XMMS works fine when I run as root, but when I run XMMS as a user I get an error message about permissions denying access to /dev/dsp Thanks Robert Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
