Re: [Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available
Thanks, it seems that once I added that extra package the install recognises FAT partitions. I will try to test it on another PC though to confirm that. > --- On Fri 10/31, Guillaume Cottenceau < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >Ouch. I actually had forgotten the mdkinst_stage2.bz2 update, so if you're running >from cdrom it should have said you the modules fiile was not correct? >Otherwise.. I don't know.. > >Jeremie, it should be nice to test this scenario with new ISO's from Warly when they >are supposed to work? > >-- >Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/> ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available
"Jim Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I remastered 9.2 with the files mentioned below (from cooker) > using the standard Mandrake script. When the installation starts > it shows the new kernel version. > > When it reaches the disk partitioning section, it does show the > Windows partitions but it does not recognizes them as formatted. > When clicking on such a partition is shows "not formatted" and > when continuing (a manual partitioning) the checkboxes next to > the Windows partitions indicate they will be formatted. > > I have no idea what is the cause, but if this is caused by the > new kernel that should be fixed as it might destroy people's > installations. Ouch. I actually had forgotten the mdkinst_stage2.bz2 update, so if you're running from cdrom it should have said you the modules fiile was not correct? Otherwise.. I don't know.. Jeremie, it should be nice to test this scenario with new ISO's from Warly when they are supposed to work? -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
RE: [Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available
I remastered 9.2 with the files mentioned below (from cooker) using the standard Mandrake script. When the installation starts it shows the new kernel version. When it reaches the disk partitioning section, it does show the Windows partitions but it does not recognizes them as formatted. When clicking on such a partition is shows "not formatted" and when continuing (a manual partitioning) the checkboxes next to the Windows partitions indicate they will be formatted. I have no idea what is the cause, but if this is caused by the new kernel that should be fixed as it might destroy people's installations. On 29 Oct 2003 17:56:51 - you wrote: >Hi, > >I've copied to our local mirror updated files regarding >2.4.22-21mdkBOOT, which fixes the LG drives problem. Those >include boot disks, isolinux/alt0 directory and >Mandrake/mdk/modulez.cz-2.4.22-21mdkBOOT. > >There have been a first batch of boot images but with a deps >problem for some network modules (at least), so I copy the >md5sum >here for you to verify you're using the correct ones: > >297444c202f83de01a93679a9a61751c cdrom.img >a8a6078dd76d21e220b3586c0f5e34b9 hdcdrom_usb.img >a5ea89a65945ab94414d7775a93d72f0 hd.img >cc4ffb3492332bc104704b19493a8ae3 network_gigabit_usb.img >c32aa8737c5dae63cd7a9f504b35a7a3 network.img >d454ed66ff8fc25bee76989ba04483fc pcmcia.img > >We have tested network.img with an "affected" LG 8322B, install >and reboot do work nicely now. > >If unsure of what version of kernel you're booting, you might >even verify it that way: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/t] strings network.img | grep 2.4.22 >2.4.22-21mdkBOOT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) #1 Sat Oct 25 >11:41:10 CEST 2003 > >-- >Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
[Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available
Hi, I've copied to our local mirror updated files regarding 2.4.22-21mdkBOOT, which fixes the LG drives problem. Those include boot disks, isolinux/alt0 directory and Mandrake/mdk/modulez.cz-2.4.22-21mdkBOOT. There have been a first batch of boot images but with a deps problem for some network modules (at least), so I copy the md5sum here for you to verify you're using the correct ones: 297444c202f83de01a93679a9a61751c cdrom.img a8a6078dd76d21e220b3586c0f5e34b9 hdcdrom_usb.img a5ea89a65945ab94414d7775a93d72f0 hd.img cc4ffb3492332bc104704b19493a8ae3 network_gigabit_usb.img c32aa8737c5dae63cd7a9f504b35a7a3 network.img d454ed66ff8fc25bee76989ba04483fc pcmcia.img We have tested network.img with an "affected" LG 8322B, install and reboot do work nicely now. If unsure of what version of kernel you're booting, you might even verify it that way: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/t] strings network.img | grep 2.4.22 2.4.22-21mdkBOOT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) #1 Sat Oct 25 11:41:10 CEST 2003 -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nora Etukudo wrote: > Am 29. Oktober 2003 um 15:19:48 +0200 schrieb Buchan Milne: > > >>Or allow network installation to install files direcltly from other >>urpmi media (like PLF)? ;-) > > > Yes! Please. > I would like this. :-) > > But it should work with AutoInstall also. Of course, since you may want to be able to have some internal applications installed during installation (and some other features related to unattended package installation could still be nice). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n8xRrJK6UGDSBKcRApSoAJ0SLvUytfAsHE7bvDczCWIcfsAgSgCgkeKk Hr92UPXz+xjWWkGsg1ktefA= =hfUV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
Am 29. Oktober 2003 um 15:19:48 +0200 schrieb Buchan Milne: > Or allow network installation to install files direcltly from other > urpmi media (like PLF)? ;-) Yes! Please. I would like this. :-) But it should work with AutoInstall also. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM-NETZ Neue Medien, Berlin http://www.im-netz.de/ WWW von Frauen für Frauen, Hamburghttp://www.w4w.net/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Helsinki http://www.sappho.net/
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
Olivier Thauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Internet: Some tools to send and read mail (pine, mutt) [...] > > Isn't time to remove pine from example ??? Except you plan to take > pine from plf and put it back into main ;) just fixed in cvs thanks.
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Thauvin wrote: > During 9.2 install, in package section, language French: > (I translate from french to english) > Internet: Some tools to send and read mail (pine, mutt) [...] > > Isn't time to remove pine from example ??? Except you plan to take pine from > plf and put it back into main ;) Or allow network installation to install files direcltly from other urpmi media (like PLF)? ;-) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n75zrJK6UGDSBKcRAlnDAKDCx01YdrHBeLcJ32a0zEkFQo0w5ACgx+/G VfCZuBM4SUKCCwrkX1bjsTY= =ekFL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Install description need to be update
During 9.2 install, in package section, language French: (I translate from french to english) Internet: Some tools to send and read mail (pine, mutt) [...] Isn't time to remove pine from example ??? Except you plan to take pine from plf and put it back into main ;) -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] pb at cooker install by sunet.se
Jan Ciger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Please wait while probing serial ports... > | getAndSaveFile: No space left on device at > | /usr/bin/perl-install/install_any.pm line 144, chunk 70. > > Are you sure that you have enough disk space ? The message means that > you ran out of space somewhere. Yes but no. This is about the installer running out of space on its ramdisk. It looks like a corrupted install, but we had some yesterday. Re-try with 1.827 please (cosmicflo). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] pb at cooker install by sunet.se
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 _ cosmicflo wrote: | Hello, | | I'm trying to install cooker by sunet.se mirror, I have the following | error message in second stage install : | | Please wait while probing serial ports... | getAndSaveFile: No space left on device at | /usr/bin/perl-install/install_any.pm line 144, chunk 70. Are you sure that you have enough disk space ? The message means that you ran out of space somewhere. Jan - -- Jan Ciger VRlab EPFL Switzerland GPG public key : http://www.keyserver.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/T0iMn11XseNj94gRArGqAJwKAL2EzdYM9V2uvmH/pRY48XVezgCg2xnb Zj4QvCjbm2irulVaAZvywFc= =4TbQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] pb at cooker install by sunet.se
Hello, I'm trying to install cooker by sunet.se mirror, I have the following error message in second stage install : Please wait while probing serial ports... getAndSaveFile: No space left on device at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_any.pm line 144, chunk 70. ... install exited abnormaly :-( _ Hotmail : un compte GRATUIT qui vous suit partout et tout le temps ! http://g.msn.fr/FR1000/9493
Re: [Cooker] Gtk broken with fresh Cooker install
"Brian Tyndall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So I can't open any GTK based tool like rpmdrake because all the > text is missing. When I fire up Gnome fore the first time - it > comes up - but no text in the menus (just icons) same pango problem due to bad package ordering. search the archives for the fix
[Cooker] Gtk broken with fresh Cooker install
So I can't open any GTK based tool like rpmdrake because all the text is missing. When I fire up Gnome fore the first time - it comes up - but no text in the menus (just icons) Thx, R.Fox -- Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fox Consulting Services
[Cooker] Install failure => check forced of 70 GB ext3
Hi I was trying to install from my mirror from uninett by hd.img when some packages was missing: perl-URPM-0.93-2 urpmi-4.2-20 I decided to leave the installation as I knew that the mirror contained newer packages- Ctrl-Alt-F2 and Ctrl-Alt-Del. When I was booting my other Cooker I had to see a full check of my two hard drives in ext3, although pixel had said that this should not occur. From syslog: Aug 11 22:48:45 localhost depmod: depmod: Aug 11 22:48:45 localhost depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.22-0.1mdk/kernel/drivers/atm/he.o.gz Aug 11 22:48:45 localhost rc.sysinit: Finding module dependencies: succeeded Aug 11 22:48:45 localhost rc.sysinit: Loading sound module (sb): succeeded Aug 11 22:48:45 localhost : Loading module: scsi_hostadapter Aug 11 22:48:46 localhost fsck: /mnt/tvaan was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:48:47 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:49:57 localhost last message repeated 278 times Aug 11 22:49:57 localhost fsck: /mnt/tvaan: Aug 11 22:49:57 localhost fsck: ^B/lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:49:58 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:49:58 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:49:58 localhost fsck: ^B/mnt/tvaan: 174900/64 files (0.9% non-contiguous), 777229/1279167 blocks Aug 11 22:49:58 localhost fsck: /mnt/attic was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:49:58 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:49:58 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:49:59 localhost last message repeated 2 times Aug 11 22:49:59 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb1: /lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:49:59 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:49:59 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb1: 16/24096 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 10390/96358 blocks Aug 11 22:49:59 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb6 Aug 11 22:49:59 localhost fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:49:59 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:50:30 localhost last message repeated 34 times Aug 11 22:50:43 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb6: /lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:50:43 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb6: 57071/670432 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 297488/1339411 blocks Aug 11 22:50:43 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb9 Aug 11 22:50:44 localhost fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:50:53 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:51:01 localhost last message repeated 65 times Aug 11 22:51:01 localhost fsck: ^B/lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:51:02 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:51:02 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:51:02 localhost fsck: ^B/mnt/attic: 17119/843648 files (8.3% non-contiguous), 1417923/1686817 blocks Aug 11 22:51:02 localhost fsck: /dev/hda9 Aug 11 22:51:02 localhost fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:51:03 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:51:53 localhost last message repeated 27 times Aug 11 22:51:55 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb9: Aug 11 22:51:55 localhost fsck: /lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:51:56 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:51:56 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb9: 94515/645120 files (2.0% non-contiguous), 553601/1289208 blocks Aug 11 22:51:56 localhost fsck: /mnt/garage Aug 11 22:51:56 localhost fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:51:58 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:52:32 localhost last message repeated 135 times Aug 11 22:52:32 localhost fsck: /mnt/garage: /lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:52:32 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:52:33 localhost last message repeated 4 times Aug 11 22:52:33 localhost fsck: /mnt/garage: 14709/642560 files (1.0% non-contiguous), 1144052/1283184 blocks Aug 11 22:52:33 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:52:33 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb7 Aug 11 22:52:33 localhost fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:52:33 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:52:42 localhost last message repeated 73 times Aug 11 22:52:42 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb7: /lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:52:42 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:52:43 localhost last message repeated 4 times Aug 11 22:52:43 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb7: 7553/654080 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 73840/1307281 blocks Aug 11 22:52:43 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:52:43 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb10 Aug 11 22:52:43 localhost fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:52:43 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:53:27 localhost last message repeated 346 times Aug 11 22:53:27 localhost fsck: ^B/lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:53:27 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:53:28 localhost last message repeated 2 times Aug 11 22:53:28 localhost fsck: ^B/dev/hda9: 196315/128 files (0.9% non-contiguous), 820250/1279167 blocks Aug 11 22:53:28 localhost fsck: /dev/hda10 Aug 11 22:53:28 localhost fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Aug 11 22:53:29 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:53:36 localhost last message repeated 4 times Aug 11 22:53:38 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb10: /lost+found not found. CREATED. Aug 11 22:53:39 localhost fsck: /dev/hdb10: 13492/1052480 files (1.9% non-contiguous), 1529031/2102499 blocks Aug 11 22:53:42 localhost fsck: ^B Aug 11 22:54:49
[Cooker] Install of grub-0.93-2mdk seg-faults
Install of grub-0.93-2mdk crashes with a segmentation violation while probing the bios of my MSI-6570 K7N2 Delta MB. lspcidrake unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 AGP Controller unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Memory Controller unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Memory Controller unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Memory Controller unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Memory Controller unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Memory Controller unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 LPC / Legacy / System Management unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 SMBus 2.0 Controller usb-ohci: Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 USB 1.0 OHCI Controller usb-ohci: Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 USB 1.0 OHCI Controller ehci-hcd: Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller nvnet : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 MCP Networking Adapter unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 APU snd-intel8x0: Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Audio Codec Interface unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 External PCI Bridge unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 UDMA 100 IDE Controller ohci1394: Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Firewire Controller unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 AGP Host to PCI Bridge aic7xxx : Adaptec|7892B 3c59x : 3Com Corporation|3c905C-TX [Fast Etherlink] pdc-ultra : Promise Technology|PDC20376 FastTrak 376 Controller Card:NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic): NVidia|0x322 unknown : Unknown|USB OHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] unknown : Unknown|USB OHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 774040212080522604 29% / /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 31079 11363 18112 39% /boot /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 983164456828526336 47% /opt /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 1955096286336 1668760 15% /var /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 1955096827736 1127360 43% /iraf /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 8657308 3973272 4244260 49% /usr /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 1955096 1081412873684 56% /usr/local /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 17433724 3676368 13757356 22% /home /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part2 33426464 28464140 4962324 86% /scsi1 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 489688438528 51160 90% /dos /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 29055520 4298752 23280800 16% /temp /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part2 67930592 47787616 20142976 71% /ide0 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part1 120046180 57746564 62299616 49% /ide1 none516176 0516176 0% /dev/shm Bjarne Thomsen -- Bjarne Thomsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Institute of Physics & Astronomy
Re: [Cooker] Gtk broken with fresh Cooker install
On 31 Jul 2003 18:53:41 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) wrote: > "Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:26:03 +, Robert Fox wrote: > > > > > So I can't open any GTK based tool like rpmdrake because all the > > > text is missing. When I fire up Gnome fore the first time - it > > > comes up - but no text in the menus (just icons) > > > > DrakX bug.. francois ? > > Strange, testing so... could the OP check the install logs? I get a similar thing when installing but in my case this is due to freetype2 being in plf volume which comes after cooker. So tons postin scripts fail due to missing freetype, resulting in no fonts in GTK apps. I run my own script right after first boot to rectify this. The script is pretty old (as old as plf freetype). I guess I should check which portions of it are still needed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] markd]$ cat /share/install/scripts/font-fix.sh #!/bin/bash # only needed when using plf's freetype /usr/bin/pango-querymodules > /etc/pango/pango.modules /usr/bin/gnome-font-install --smart /usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0 > /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules fc-cache
Re: [Cooker] Gtk broken with fresh Cooker install
"Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:26:03 +, Robert Fox wrote: > > > So I can't open any GTK based tool like rpmdrake because all the text is > > missing. When I fire up Gnome fore the first time - it comes up - but > > no text in the menus (just icons) > > DrakX bug.. francois ? Strange, testing so... François.
Re: [Cooker] Gtk broken with fresh Cooker install
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:26:03 +, Robert Fox wrote: > So I can't open any GTK based tool like rpmdrake because all the text is > missing. When I fire up Gnome fore the first time - it comes up - but > no text in the menus (just icons) DrakX bug.. francois ? -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] Gtk broken with fresh Cooker install
So I can't open any GTK based tool like rpmdrake because all the text is missing. When I fire up Gnome fore the first time - it comes up - but no text in the menus (just icons) Thx, R.Fox -- Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fox Consulting Services
[Cooker] RE: cooker install
Hi ALL: I have Mandrake 9.1 installed and I have set-up 2 sources one for cooker and one for contrib. I did urpmi.update -a and the urpmi --auto-select which proceeded to download a lot of files. It then said there were 2 deps. devel libnoatunarts > needed by kdemultimedia-devel and that xemacs and emacs had file conflicts. So I got rid of kdemultimedia-devel and xemacs. Then urpmi --auto-select gave me this: Installation failed: error while ordering dependencies I thought the deps would be figured out before the install went on? man_linux _ Signup for free MacPunk email! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.macpunk.com
[Cooker] Latest Cooker install - broken package selection
Dated today - when I try to install a fresh cooker (fully up to date with rsync from main mirror) - during package selection - I choose "individual packages" Even though I select several package groups (totaling 2296 MB) when I click next for the individual selection - I only see 680 MB preselected. Does this make sense? Thx, Robert Fox -- Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fox Consulting Services
Re: [Cooker] Install error - turba-1.2-1mdk
Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > # rpm -q --whatprovides 'perl(Getopt::Std)' > > no package provides perl(Getopt::Std) > > > > # locate Getopt > > /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Long.3pm.bz2 > > /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Std.3pm.bz2 > > /usr/share/pear/.registry/Console_Getopt.reg > > /usr/share/pear/Console/Getopt.php > > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt > > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long > > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long.pm > > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Std.pm > > > > Any ideas why this is happening? try "rpm -q perl", i believe you don't have the latest release. > > Another flaw in the autorequires/autoprovides... nope ;p
Re: [Cooker] Install error - turba-1.2-1mdk
On Wed Jul 02 16:08 -0400, magic wrote: > Pixel wrote: > > >> Installation failed: > >> perl(Getopt::Std) is needed by turba-1.2-1mdk > >> > >> > > > >% rpm -q --whatprovides 'perl(Getopt::Std)' > >perl-5.8.0-25mdk > > > > Yes, and it appears to be installed: > > # rpm -q --whatprovides 'perl(Getopt::Std)' > no package provides perl(Getopt::Std) > > # locate Getopt > /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Long.3pm.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Std.3pm.bz2 > /usr/share/pear/.registry/Console_Getopt.reg > /usr/share/pear/Console/Getopt.php > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Std.pm > > Any ideas why this is happening? Another flaw in the autorequires/autoprovides... Surprise, surprise, surprise. I've given up on tracking cooker until the perl auto(requires|provides) are fixed... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Linux 2.4.21-0.15mdk 17:22:00 up 2 days, 8:34, 11 users, load average: 0.33, 0.30, 0.22
Re: [Cooker] Install error - turba-1.2-1mdk
Pixel wrote: Installation failed: perl(Getopt::Std) is needed by turba-1.2-1mdk % rpm -q --whatprovides 'perl(Getopt::Std)' perl-5.8.0-25mdk Yes, and it appears to be installed: # rpm -q --whatprovides 'perl(Getopt::Std)' no package provides perl(Getopt::Std) # locate Getopt /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Long.3pm.bz2 /usr/share/man/man3pm/Getopt::Std.3pm.bz2 /usr/share/pear/.registry/Console_Getopt.reg /usr/share/pear/Console/Getopt.php /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Long.pm /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/Getopt/Std.pm Any ideas why this is happening? Thanks, S
Re: [Cooker] Install error - turba-1.2-1mdk
magic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Installation failed: > perl(Getopt::Std) is needed by turba-1.2-1mdk % rpm -q --whatprovides 'perl(Getopt::Std)' perl-5.8.0-25mdk
[Cooker] Install error - turba-1.2-1mdk
I tried to install, and got a require error: Installation failed: perl(Getopt::Std) is needed by turba-1.2-1mdk Thanks, S
Re: [Cooker] [RFC] Cooker install / diagnostics CD...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Backlund wrote: > Since I'm about to reinstall my whole home network and computers, > I saw the need... so... > > I'm planning on creating a small bootable ISO, with options to boot > installer for installing Cooker from the harddisk (like hd.img), > and from network source (like network.img)... > and maybe some other... (usb?, pcmcia?) > depending on "my fellow Cookers..." needs ... ;-)) > Booting with alt0 on normal install CD should allow all methods. I was working on a disk myself, but mainly having things which can't be distributed (dos, windows9x boot disks, partition magic, IBM's Drive Fitness test, Fujitsu's drive test which requires dos, memtest86 etc). > On the same I thought I'll put the following (as bootable from CD) : > - memtest86 v3.0 >- this one is known by most Cookers... > > - TestDisk 4.4 >- Tool to check and undelete partition > Works with the following partitions: >- FAT12 FAT16 FAT32 >- Linux EXT2/EXT3 >- Linux SWAP (version 1 and 2) >- NTFS (Windows NT/W2K/XP) >- BeFS (BeOS) >- UFS (BSD) >- Netware >- ReiserFS > > - cpuburn 1.4 (maybe??) > - ... > > > so... > any thoughts? suggestions...? > something to add ... / remove ... Would it be better to work on generic bootable CD support, to make it easier to generate bootable CDs with all these tools, than to just make one image? Tibbor is working on some bootable CD project, and someone else was looking for one, and I hate having to use non-Mandrake stuff just to get a bootable distro (ie Knoppix etc). How about a bootable audio workstation? Bootable GIS workstation (with grass etc). Bootable terminal server or cluster (as has already been done with Knoppix). Bootable CD with minimal X booting straight into diskdrake? Of course a script to have just a diagnostics CD would be cool. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+90iurJK6UGDSBKcRAiJ3AJ0etXxpV8HFkBLA/H0WlV86JFbEtwCdGSlk j1sHQeW+H+FHz2vL6LOUB5U= =uamK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
[Cooker] [RFC] Cooker install / diagnostics CD...
Since I'm about to reinstall my whole home network and computers, I saw the need... so... I'm planning on creating a small bootable ISO, with options to boot installer for installing Cooker from the harddisk (like hd.img), and from network source (like network.img)... and maybe some other... (usb?, pcmcia?) depending on "my fellow Cookers..." needs ... ;-)) On the same I thought I'll put the following (as bootable from CD) : - memtest86 v3.0 - this one is known by most Cookers... - TestDisk 4.4 - Tool to check and undelete partition Works with the following partitions: - FAT12 FAT16 FAT32 - Linux EXT2/EXT3 - Linux SWAP (version 1 and 2) - NTFS (Windows NT/W2K/XP) - BeFS (BeOS) - UFS (BSD) - Netware - ReiserFS - cpuburn 1.4 (maybe??) - ... so... any thoughts? suggestions...? something to add ... / remove ... -- Regards Thomas
[Cooker] install doesn't update medias
(please, have a look at the message"Missing dependencies when MakeCD" that could be the reason) On update from 9.1: Doesn't have asked me for other CD! same thing for 9.1(quick install, not checked that) but for some debian CD are read skipped stage of pakages install! install XFree and al when configure X uname "running cooker 2.4.21-0.13" on reboot urpmi only knows MDK 9.1's CD1
Re: [Cooker] Can't do a clean Cooker install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Fox wrote: > As reported earlier, I maintain a local mirror copy of Cooker and > install or update regularly my local machines. > > For the last two weeks I have been unable to get an install working > because the "mkcd --check" fails and I can't use "gendistrib --distrib" > to recreate the necessary cooker/base stuff. > > Is there any indication as to when we may be able to do this? I know > Cooker is always in flux - but I can't even do an update because of this > problem. > You should still be able to --auto-select, possibly with a bit of manual installation, possibly avoiding the MySQL packages at the moment (faulty depdencency on perl(the), probably caused by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ grep "use the" `rpm -ql MySQL-client` /usr/bin/mysqlaccess:use the option --old_server. /usr/bin/mysqlaccess:#When matching, use the first found match. Binary file /usr/bin/mysqldump matches > I was hoping the latest KDE 3.12 will solve some of my KDE problems > (like konqueror generating LOTS of core.xxx files every time I open it - > because of the kio_thumbnail problem) You should be able to update to kde3.1.2 quite easily. Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+22sQrJK6UGDSBKcRApWGAJ0VBEfkSOPOvlR2qTT580z4+o1uXwCfRCHc 5jnT5hrGtNWEbTe940rBzoY= =R1Lq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
[Cooker] Can't do a clean Cooker install
As reported earlier, I maintain a local mirror copy of Cooker and install or update regularly my local machines. For the last two weeks I have been unable to get an install working because the "mkcd --check" fails and I can't use "gendistrib --distrib" to recreate the necessary cooker/base stuff. Is there any indication as to when we may be able to do this? I know Cooker is always in flux - but I can't even do an update because of this problem. I was hoping the latest KDE 3.12 will solve some of my KDE problems (like konqueror generating LOTS of core.xxx files every time I open it - because of the kio_thumbnail problem) Please help. R.Fox -- Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fox Consulting Services
Re: [Cooker] Install Experience
Pascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. graphic install ou text install - If you first choose an installation > language in simple mode, then change your mind and use the advanced mode to > select several other languages, then ALL languages choosen in simple AND > advanced mode will be installed. Unfortunatly once you click on next you > cannot revert language changes without restarting the installaion process > from boot. in text install, i think it's broken, i talk about graphics install. normal and advanced mode are *different* things. the language selected in normal view is the default language, and the language used during install. in advanced view, it's additional languages which will be available after install, to switch to. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Install Experience
@Mr. Williamson: I'll try what you've suggested, it seems to be a logical step, I'm hoping it works, thanks for the tip :) @Pixel: $ ls -la /etc/mandrake-release -rw-r--r--1 root root 45 Oct 8 12:47 /etc/mandrake-release Content: Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Cooker) for i586 Could it be that setup doesn't realize that this is a diferent version, and thats why it doesnt offer to upgrade? Although, it still seems there is an upgrade problem with the installer, but hopefully Mr. Williamson's suggestion will allow us to upgrade while the installer bug is fixed. @All: Thanks for the replies and help :) On Thursday 27 March 2003 09:17 am, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 14:01, Pascal Cavy wrote: > > > > can you tell us what criterias are used to check this on DrakX ? > > > > (is it the mandrake-release rpm ?) > > > > > > well, /etc/mandrake-release *file* > > > > so cooker beta testers can upgrade their machines by replacing this file > > with the one from 9.0 ? > > Here's what both you and Adam Caudill actually want to know: > > You don't need to run the CDs to update 9.1RC2 or a recentish Cooker to > 9.1. All you need to do is define urpmi sources for main and contrib > from a mirror's 9.1 directory, then run 'urpmi --auto-select -v' (as > root), and it'll update to 9.1. No need to use the installer.
Re: [Cooker] Install Experience
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 14:01, Pascal Cavy wrote: > > > can you tell us what criterias are used to check this on DrakX ? > > > (is it the mandrake-release rpm ?) > > > > well, /etc/mandrake-release *file* > > so cooker beta testers can upgrade their machines by replacing this file with > the one from 9.0 ? Here's what both you and Adam Caudill actually want to know: You don't need to run the CDs to update 9.1RC2 or a recentish Cooker to 9.1. All you need to do is define urpmi sources for main and contrib from a mirror's 9.1 directory, then run 'urpmi --auto-select -v' (as root), and it'll update to 9.1. No need to use the installer. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Install Experience
Better yet, no option to upgrade a 9.1rc2 install anywhere so it seems. I checked both the graphical & text modes... Looks like no upgrade for me. Is this the same error, or just a Microsoft type way of annoying the beta testers who switch to soon? I do hope there is a way around this one... On Wednesday 26 March 2003 05:01 pm, Pascal wrote: > Le Mercredi 26 Mars 2003 21:54, Rocco Stanzione a écrit : > > I suppose it's too late to fix it now, but this seems the best place to > > bring it up. I thought to upgrade my 9.0 installation to 9.1. I assume > > that I was asked at some point whether I wanted to do a fresh install or > > an upgrade, but if so it was sufficiently quiet that I missed it. I got > > a screen asking whether I wanted automatic partitioning, custom > > partitioning, or to keep my existing partitions. Thinking that keeping > > my existing partitions would be the only option compatible with an > > upgrade, I chose that. And without further adieu or even so much as a > > "by your leave", it formatted my lone partition. No confirmation dialog, > > no nothing. Having run cooker on my main machine for some time, I had > > high hopes for this release and expected better. Formatting partitions > > during install should be taken a little less lightly, I think. > > > > Rocco > > I can second this. > > Today I upgraded 2 machines from 8.0 and 8.2 with 9.1 cdroms. I noticed 3 > problems : > > > 3. I had the problem noticed by Rocco above. In graphic mode, I was not > asked for an upgrade and went to the disk partition menu. As this seems > suspect to me, I rebooted in text install mode. There I was asked to > upgrade my installation. A silly bug here... > Hope it will not break too many installations ! > An errata could be posted asap, as soon as others confirm this behaviour...
Re: [Cooker] Install Experience
Le Mercredi 26 Mars 2003 21:54, Rocco Stanzione a écrit : > I suppose it's too late to fix it now, but this seems the best place to > bring it up. I thought to upgrade my 9.0 installation to 9.1. I assume > that I was asked at some point whether I wanted to do a fresh install or an > upgrade, but if so it was sufficiently quiet that I missed it. I got a > screen asking whether I wanted automatic partitioning, custom partitioning, > or to keep my existing partitions. Thinking that keeping my existing > partitions would be the only option compatible with an upgrade, I chose > that. And without further adieu or even so much as a "by your leave", it > formatted my lone partition. No confirmation dialog, no nothing. Having > run cooker on my main machine for some time, I had high hopes for this > release and expected better. Formatting partitions during install should be > taken a little less lightly, I think. > > Rocco I can second this. Today I upgraded 2 machines from 8.0 and 8.2 with 9.1 cdroms. I noticed 3 problems : 1. graphic install ou text install - If you first choose an installation language in simple mode, then change your mind and use the advanced mode to select several other languages, then ALL languages choosen in simple AND advanced mode will be installed. Unfortunatly once you click on next you cannot revert language changes without restarting the installaion process from boot. 2. In some low res graphic modes (vga16 for ex) there is no progression indication on screen of what's going on between the end of cdrom boot and the second stage install. One can think the process is frozen. If graphics cannot be used there, an ascii progression could have ben provided. 3. I had the problem noticed by Rocco above. In graphic mode, I was not asked for an upgrade and went to the disk partition menu. As this seems suspect to me, I rebooted in text install mode. There I was asked to upgrade my installation. A silly bug here... Hope it will not break too many installations ! An errata could be posted asap, as soon as others confirm this behaviour... -- Pascal __ Running 2:35, 4 users, load average: 0.45, 0.60, 0.43 (gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.21-0.13mdkenterprise pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[Cooker] Install Experience
I suppose it's too late to fix it now, but this seems the best place to bring it up. I thought to upgrade my 9.0 installation to 9.1. I assume that I was asked at some point whether I wanted to do a fresh install or an upgrade, but if so it was sufficiently quiet that I missed it. I got a screen asking whether I wanted automatic partitioning, custom partitioning, or to keep my existing partitions. Thinking that keeping my existing partitions would be the only option compatible with an upgrade, I chose that. And without further adieu or even so much as a "by your leave", it formatted my lone partition. No confirmation dialog, no nothing. Having run cooker on my main machine for some time, I had high hopes for this release and expected better. Formatting partitions during install should be taken a little less lightly, I think. Rocco
[Cooker] Install and really large partitions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It would be good if someone from the install team could look at this post in MandrakeClub, the user had problems formatting an 800GB partition (ext3). http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=5111&forum=9 Any chance this will work in 9.1? Should it work in 9.0 as XFS? I would try it, but I don't have so much space ... by a long shot! Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+cMyIrJK6UGDSBKcRAqDOAJ9ivi/cKjQjrHNL6NTQ/jwTxI+cpQCfTuBH 5GenUCX9eJc5SHooSUZlOKU= =Ll6q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Cooker install: Caching name server
After installing cooker the caching nameserver fails to resolve after the first successul resolve. eg. service named restart Stopping named: [ OK ] Starting named: [ OK ] [root@tornado root]# host nine nine.orbiscom.com has address 192.168.0.140 [root@tornado root]# host nine Host nine not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) [root@tornado root]# Removing the nameserver 127.0.0.1 from the /etc/resolv.conf fixes things (obviously) -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member.
Re: [Cooker] install feature request
Pixel wrote: "J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Pixel wrote: "J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: nothing really big, just when configuring the mouse during installation, add the option to map it for left handed use, then set the system to map left handed throughout by default. it actually slows me down drastically using a mouse mapped right handed. and every install is a pain because the buttons aren't mapped left handed. uh... maybe we can have a theme that would cause left and right button to do the same? Pixel, it's a request, not a scream of something being broken. ~grin~ not a rush to have for 9.1 but for concideration for future releases. ( 9.2 maybe ) at this point, adding a new feature is not something to work on, making sure the beta series gets the bugs worked out is much more important. ok. But i think it should not be too hard since right button is not used during install. Making it do the same as left button would fix it, uh? PS: i'm left handed... but i don't switch buttons :) yeah it would work for the install. and would be simple to add the right button to the installer since it's not used at all.
Re: [Cooker] install feature request
"J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pixel wrote: > > "J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >>nothing really big, just when configuring the mouse during installation, add > >>the option to map it for left handed use, then set the system to map left > >>handed throughout by default. > >> > >>it actually slows me down drastically using a mouse mapped right handed. > >>and every install is a pain because the buttons aren't mapped left handed. > > uh... maybe we can have a theme that would cause left and right button > > to do the same? > > > Pixel, > it's a request, not a scream of something being broken. ~grin~ > not a rush to have for 9.1 but for concideration for future releases. > ( 9.2 maybe ) > at this point, adding a new feature is not something to work on, making sure > the beta series gets the bugs worked out is much more important. ok. But i think it should not be too hard since right button is not used during install. Making it do the same as left button would fix it, uh? PS: i'm left handed... but i don't switch buttons :)
Re: [Cooker] install feature request
Pixel wrote: "J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: nothing really big, just when configuring the mouse during installation, add the option to map it for left handed use, then set the system to map left handed throughout by default. it actually slows me down drastically using a mouse mapped right handed. and every install is a pain because the buttons aren't mapped left handed. uh... maybe we can have a theme that would cause left and right button to do the same? Pixel, it's a request, not a scream of something being broken. ~grin~ not a rush to have for 9.1 but for concideration for future releases. ( 9.2 maybe ) at this point, adding a new feature is not something to work on, making sure the beta series gets the bugs worked out is much more important.
Re: [Cooker] install feature request
"J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > nothing really big, just when configuring the mouse during installation, add > the option to map it for left handed use, then set the system to map left > handed throughout by default. > > it actually slows me down drastically using a mouse mapped right handed. > and every install is a pain because the buttons aren't mapped left handed. uh... maybe we can have a theme that would cause left and right button to do the same?
Re: [Cooker] install feature request
Ooh, I second this! --- "J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nothing really big, just when configuring the mouse > during installation, > add the option to map it for left handed use, then > set the system to map > left handed throughout by default. > > it actually slows me down drastically using a mouse > mapped right handed. > and every install is a pain because the buttons > aren't mapped left handed. > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
[Cooker] install feature request
nothing really big, just when configuring the mouse during installation, add the option to map it for left handed use, then set the system to map left handed throughout by default. it actually slows me down drastically using a mouse mapped right handed. and every install is a pain because the buttons aren't mapped left handed.
Re: [Cooker] Install Report of mdk91beta
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 1) [When booting with the rescue cdrom] That @#$@#$ terminal beep on the > > rescue boot of the mdk91 cdrom is turned on! > > Could you try to rephrase? I don't understand. After re-reading and re-reading I finally made the right grouping of words in your sentence, hence understood the meaning :). Is it a new bug/feature for you? I think it's always been the same, and it's just the default terminal beep (visual bell, or even "nothing", being options). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Install Report of mdk91beta
roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) [When booting with the rescue cdrom] That @#$@#$ terminal beep on the > rescue boot of the mdk91 cdrom is turned on! Could you try to rephrase? I don't understand. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
From: "Chmouel Boudjnah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > e.g. your disk seems to not be detected by the kernel :( [or | > misreads the partition table]. | | we have a bug with nforce2 and latest kernel, a contributor on cooker | point that the driver version from the ac kernel series works and send | the patch to Juan. Hopefully it will be integrated in next release. | Yep. That was me... my fist "patch" contribution to the cooker ;-)) the message: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=104290160702315&w=2 or to put it shortly... get it here: http://www.iki.fi/~tmb/Cooker/ where you will find: - this patch ( nForce2.patch) - precompiled 'up' kernel (kernel-2.4.21.0.pre3.1TmB-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) - the kernel SRPM ( kernel-2.4.21.0.pre3.1TmB-1-1mdk.src.rpm) Thomas
Re: [Cooker] Install Mandrake from an external ieee1394 cdrom?
roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anybody know if one can yet install mandrake from an external ieee1394 > (firewire) cdrom? If it didn't break, yes, it's a supported feature with "usb.img" and "all.img" (hence, CDROM booting - thus, if your bios can boot from your firewire CDROM, you even have no bootdisk to mess with). Since not many people use that, it may be broken, though :). Just tell me, if it's broken I'll try to fix. [...] > I did spend sometime trying to create my own ieee1394.img, however, > failed and forget the problem that I was having. I believe it was !? strange. > something like I was able to package the image file with the > ieee1394.o/ohci1394.o/sbp2.o modules but for some reason, the diskette > wouldn't recognize the device. I do believe i was also ending up hum normally if you insmod'ed by hand the three above modules, it should have worked.. > modprobing the modules manually. yep. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > e.g. your disk seems to not be detected by the kernel :( [or > misreads the partition table]. we have a bug with nforce2 and latest kernel, a contributor on cooker point that the driver version from the ac kernel series works and send the patch to Juan. Hopefully it will be integrated in next release.
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
Narfi Stefansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The last time I checked, the hd.img boot kernel was 2.4.19 and I'd greatly > appreciate one which works at full speed on the nforce2 motherboards. not very quickly: latest boot kernel has enlarged much, drivers do not fit on bootdisks anymore; so we temporarily use the 9.0 boot kernel.. > It took > 30 min. to format a 6GB partition during my latest installation! :((. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
Thomas Backlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > - The system is: > -Asus A7N8X DeLuxe nforce2 motherboard [...] > - Maxtor 120GB HDD with 8MB cache [...] > 9. BOOTING THE SYSTEM > - 'linux' boot hangs with: > - mount: error 6 mounting ext3 flags Kernel panic: no init found this should correspond to the error: #define ENXIO6 /* No such device or address */ e.g. your disk seems to not be detected by the kernel :( [or misreads the partition table]. > - 'linux noapic' hangs at the same point... as 'linux' > - 'Failsafe' gets the system going a little bit longer... until: > - it tries to read the disk: 'hda: no response (status = 0xfe)', >and then hangs with the same error as 'linux' hm, same conclusion as above then :/. did previous versions of mandrake kernel detect this disk at all? -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] install : french UTF8 -> english
I have clicked on "advance", unselected "french", selected "french UTF8" and I get only en_US, during and after the install. Pixel wrote: "Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I have choosed only "french UTF8" for install, and the install is in english. you can't choose only "french UTF8", you will always get the language chosen in the upper part of the language choice window.
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
"John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since one can get to console from the X login screen a few ways, one does not > need the option to autoload a desktop at all in the installer, IMHO. many don't like having [xkg]dm running, so it's needed > Simply > set the X login to a lower res and color depth that is VESA if the video test > failed-- branch past that setting of res only IF the video test suceeded. alas video test doesn't work well during install and is disabled on many cards. > most > video cards still in use can handle 640x480x256 (8 Bit) color, so poke a > default like that, overwrite\replace after video test suceeds. No video test, > default to fail action. A lot of pre-1996 monitors have a lack of a good > versatile 800x600x16 bit mode set, and those things last so long if well > treated that there are lots of them handed down and in use. installation already defaults to 800x600x16 with not many people yelling ;p in any way XFree "vesa" module is not very good, much safer is "fbdev" (as redhat learned...) > Doing just that would eliminate the hardest thing for many newbies to grasp > and work around-- video failure during boot(as THEY see it, boot ends when > desktop is up and running). > > I agree about the recommended part, but the basic assumptions need to be > filled in if the advanced button is not selected and choices not completed > through any needed choice testing. Default minimal until better tested, > insofar as video goes. I would myself just change recommended to basic or > SAFER. i don't think automatic configuration is so bad that we have to go down that way. There are problems, but most of them are better fixed than work-arounded the way proposed above. *Many* people would be pissed of with a default config using framebuffer with a low resolution (KDE/Gnome are hardly usable in 800x600, and don't even try 640x480!)
Re: [Cooker] install : french UTF8 -> english
"Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have choosed only "french UTF8" for install, and the install is in english. you can't choose only "french UTF8", you will always get the language chosen in the upper part of the language choice window.
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
Pixel wrote: "John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: (which is what the login to KDE does) but DO go to the X-gui'd login. The first 10 installs I made of Mandrake got wiped because the video settings for X were scragged and I did not know how NOT to autoad KDE. in the old recommended mode, it was that way when it was decided "safe" to have X without asking. Just perspective. Wish list for longer term-- ask if the user has used Linux before first thing in install, then do certain things like forced\defaulted gui'd login but not a force\default to desktop if answer is no, and be more verbose about choices and logic for choosing if no or offer to show a tutorial (and recommend seeing it) before installing. the current trend is to remove the "recommended" install and have the option to choose expert choices in the dialog boxes (using the "Advanced" button). alas, this change impacts quite a lot of things... hopefully in the end there will be both freedom-of-choice and ease :-/ Actually, usually was able to get to the login if the X login was used-- it was a VESA video mode login. The problems I had came when the desktop manager did a mode and resolution shift (or X did) that caused a different pick from the refresh table, and the acceptable monitor ranges were out of bounds-- in one case, 2 KHz out of range for horizontal sync totally TRASHED display as the system load progressed and desktop inited. Since one can get to console from the X login screen a few ways, one does not need the option to autoload a desktop at all in the installer, IMHO. Simply set the X login to a lower res and color depth that is VESA if the video test failed-- branch past that setting of res only IF the video test suceeded. most video cards still in use can handle 640x480x256 (8 Bit) color, so poke a default like that, overwrite\replace after video test suceeds. No video test, default to fail action. A lot of pre-1996 monitors have a lack of a good versatile 800x600x16 bit mode set, and those things last so long if well treated that there are lots of them handed down and in use. Doing just that would eliminate the hardest thing for many newbies to grasp and work around-- video failure during boot(as THEY see it, boot ends when desktop is up and running). I agree about the recommended part, but the basic assumptions need to be filled in if the advanced button is not selected and choices not completed through any needed choice testing. Default minimal until better tested, insofar as video goes. I would myself just change recommended to basic or SAFER. John.
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
"John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (which is what the login to KDE does) but DO go to the X-gui'd login. The > first 10 installs I made of Mandrake got wiped because the video settings for > X were scragged and I did not know how NOT to autoad KDE. in the old recommended mode, it was that way when it was decided "safe" to have X without asking. > Just perspective. Wish list for longer term-- ask if the user has used Linux > before first thing in install, then do certain things like forced\defaulted > gui'd login but not a force\default to desktop if answer is no, and be more > verbose about choices and logic for choosing if no or offer to show a tutorial > (and recommend seeing it) before installing. the current trend is to remove the "recommended" install and have the option to choose expert choices in the dialog boxes (using the "Advanced" button). alas, this change impacts quite a lot of things... hopefully in the end there will be both freedom-of-choice and ease :-/
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
"Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pixel wrote: > > but, i do agree that the dialog box for choosing autologin or not is > > not clear > > > > OK, so what do you think of this UI : > If you don't know, you just click "next" : > > --- > I can set up your computer to automatically logon a user... > Do you want to use this feature ? > > (x) no (default for most cases) > > > > ( ) yes (useful for single user at home) it could be that way, but I must see first what our ergonomy team decided (well, "will decide" is more correct since the final spec is not out yet :)
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
J. Greenlees wrote: Pixel wrote: Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matter of ergonomics : The automatic logon is not a very secure feature. [...] Either : Add the string "(not recommended)" just after the string "do you want to use this feature", to give the good advice, Or better : replace the two buttons "YES" and "NO" with two radio buttons "yes" and "no". The radion button enabled by default should be "no". And add a standard "next" button. So the user which does not understand this feature will just click on "next" and won't have this feature enabled, which is a good choice. i agree the ergonomics of this box is no good. but i do not agree this is that unsafe. i'd agree to add "(not recommended)" iff the user has a password-secured bootloader. and in that case, it's even better not to propose autologin :) for people new to linux from windows, the automatic login is what windows gives them. for single user home use it may not be as much a risk, which is where linux will have to get people from windows to expand user base. would definitely put a "not recommended for business/company/corporate computers" tag in. though most network admins should know that anyway. been discussing in a forum about linux/ windows, most windows users won't switch until point and click ui is all they have to deal with. maybe a single cd version set up for complete new users that gives them the mushroom treatment windows users are used to from ms. no options to speak of during install, no choice in ui, and set to runlevel 5 after install with automatic login. this would allow un-informed windows users to check Mandrake out in a way they are used to being treated. ;) (though I would recommend against completely removing their windows partitions during the install, even though windows would demand that any other partitions be rebuilt. As a Windows user from 3.0 up, AND as a Linux user for a couple years, I can tell you that what Windows users are used to is a graphical login, but do not need an autologin straight into a desktop for the most part in order to be comfortable. My Mandrake and Redhat installs do NOT go to a desktop autoload (which is what the login to KDE does) but DO go to the X-gui'd login. The first 10 installs I made of Mandrake got wiped because the video settings for X were scragged and I did not know how NOT to autoad KDE. Just perspective. Wish list for longer term-- ask if the user has used Linux before first thing in install, then do certain things like forced\defaulted gui'd login but not a force\default to desktop if answer is no, and be more verbose about choices and logic for choosing if no or offer to show a tutorial (and recommend seeing it) before installing. John.
Re: [Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : "/" appears twice
Randy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a > mountpoint for a partition, the "/" appears twice in the list of choices. > >>> > >>>weird, i don't have this... > >>>. > >>> > >> > >>I have seen it on the 9.1b iso. Perhaps you've fixed it! ;-) > > that would be nice, but dreams are not often the reality :) > > when does it happen? in the dialog box when pressing "Create" in > > diskdrake? > > When you have selected an already existing partition and you select the mount > point for the file system you will see two rows that have just /. well it must have gone away on its own :) since i can't reproduce... please try cooker or upcoming beta2!
Re: [Cooker] install user : "accept' button not very well placed.
Pixel a écrit: Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christophe Combelles wrote on Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:36:52PM +0100 : This is a matter of ergonomics : During install, when new users can be added, the button "accept" (a user) should be placed at the right of the text fields, or just below them. The current place for this button is not correct, because after having entered the username, name and passwords, one may click on the "done" button to confirm this user. Then the user will in fact not be installed, because the correct button was "accept" and not "done". I don't understand this, but maybe I haven't done the same thing as you. I do a full install. At the new user, I enter name, username, password twice and click done. When it reboots, I have two users, root and todd. According to your description the user todd shouldn't be there. But it is, so you must be doing something different. Please elaborate. you're right, "Done" do add the user but, even if things do work, i agree this is not very nice. OK, I'm wrong for the "done" button. In this case my only suggestion is to move the "accept" button either at the right of the text fields, or just below them. This would be a bit clearer.
Re: [Cooker] install : french UTF8 -> english
Not only the install : If you choose ONLY french/UTF8 during install, the i18n is configured for en_US after install Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN) a écrit: I have choosed only "french UTF8" for install, and the install is in english.
Re: [Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : "/" appears twice
Pixel wrote: Randy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Pixel wrote: "Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a mountpoint for a partition, the "/" appears twice in the list of choices. weird, i don't have this... . I have seen it on the 9.1b iso. Perhaps you've fixed it! ;-) that would be nice, but dreams are not often the reality :) when does it happen? in the dialog box when pressing "Create" in diskdrake? When you have selected an already existing partition and you select the mount point for the file system you will see two rows that have just /. (I have a partition that I use specifically for doing test installs of cooker or other linuxes so I never create a new partition at install time unless it's a new disk.) By the way I really have to tip my hat to Mandrake on the installer. Tried the RH beta. It is very unforgiving of failures in the install. ( got a clean install with it but it hangs on boot.. *sigh*). -randy
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
Pixel wrote: but, i do agree that the dialog box for choosing autologin or not is not clear OK, so what do you think of this UI : If you don't know, you just click "next" : --- I can set up your computer to automatically logon a user... Do you want to use this feature ? (x) no (default for most cases) ( ) yes (useful for single user at home) user :[(v) user1] desktop : [(v) KDE ] [<- back ] [ next ->] -
Re: [Cooker] install user : "accept' button not very well placed.
Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christophe Combelles wrote on Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:36:52PM +0100 : > > This is a matter of ergonomics : > > > > During install, when new users can be added, the button "accept" (a > > user) should be placed at the right of the text fields, or just below them. > > > > The current place for this button is not correct, because after having > > entered the username, name and passwords, one may click on the "done" > > button to confirm this user. Then the user will in fact not be > > installed, because the correct button was "accept" and not "done". > > I don't understand this, but maybe I haven't done the same thing as you. > I do a full install. At the new user, I enter name, username, password > twice and click done. When it reboots, I have two users, root and todd. > According to your description the user todd shouldn't be there. But it > is, so you must be doing something different. Please elaborate. you're right, "Done" do add the user but, even if things do work, i agree this is not very nice.
Re: [Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : "/" appears twice
Randy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pixel wrote: > > "Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >>During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a > >>mountpoint for a partition, the "/" appears twice in the list of choices. > > weird, i don't have this... > > . > > > > I have seen it on the 9.1b iso. Perhaps you've fixed it! ;-) that would be nice, but dreams are not often the reality :) when does it happen? in the dialog box when pressing "Create" in diskdrake?
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
"J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > personally, I never use automatic login, after working in a bank and having to > go through 3 different log ins, with 3 different user names and passwords, > just to turn terminal on and activate app for the day I got used to a decently > organized security system. so tell me you have: a password in the bootloader! OR no physical access to the box OR only keyboard/monitor access (ie no access to the central unit) and disabled sys-req & disabled ctrl-alt-suppr but, i do agree that the dialog box for choosing autologin or not is not clear
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
Buchan Milne wrote: J. Greenlees wrote: for people new to linux from windows, the automatic login is what windows gives them. Depends: 1)Win9x defaults to no login, until you enable profiles or join the machine to a network unless you allow the default microsoft family login, then, if no password input, no login. microsoft network login isn't automatic, and doesn't offer the option, majority of home users go with family login to get rid of having to log in. 2)Winnt/win2k/winxp (AFAIK) force login really? my wife's xp-pro box doesn't require login at all, with networking used for internet connection. ( she did as most do, and told it automatically login. ) for single user home use it may not be as much a risk, which is where linux will have to get people from windows to expand user base. ANy home user connected to the internet is asked to login AFAICR. would definitely put a "not recommended for business/company/corporate computers" tag in. though most network admins should know that anyway. been discussing in a forum about linux/ windows, most windows users won't switch until point and click ui is all they have to deal with. How does this make a difference to whether it's point&click ? automatic login is part of point and click, to the people that made / agreed with that assessment. these same people do not want options during install, so their judgment may be suspect. ;) personally, I never use automatic login, after working in a bank and having to go through 3 different log ins, with 3 different user names and passwords, just to turn terminal on and activate app for the day I got used to a decently organized security system. ( scary was that the bank upgraded from win 3.1.1 to win 95 while I was working there. ^shudder^ ).
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
J. Greenlees wrote: > for people new to linux from windows, the automatic login is what > windows gives them. Depends: 1)Win9x defaults to no login, until you enable profiles or join the machine to a network 2)Winnt/win2k/winxp (AFAIK) force login > for single user home use it may not be as much a risk, which is where > linux will have to get people from windows to expand user base. ANy home user connected to the internet is asked to login AFAICR. > > would definitely put a "not recommended for business/company/corporate > computers" tag in. though most network admins should know that anyway. > > been discussing in a forum about linux/ windows, most windows users > won't switch until point and click ui is all they have to deal with. > How does this make a difference to whether it's point&click ? -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
Pixel wrote: > Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i agree the ergonomics of this box is no good. > > but i do not agree this is that unsafe. > > i'd agree to add "(not recommended)" iff the user has a > password-secured bootloader. and in that case, it's even better not to > propose autologin :) Make it dependant on msec level? Have it dedault to off in msec>3 ? Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] install : cannot skip the bootlader step !
Christophe Combelles wrote: > During install, the bootloader step cannot be skipped. > > Worse : I wanted to install just on my partition hdd10 So put the boot loader on hdd10. Then set your other linux install to boot an "Other" OS from hdd10. Back button issues are known. Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : "/" appears twice
Pixel wrote: "Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a mountpoint for a partition, the "/" appears twice in the list of choices. weird, i don't have this... . I have seen it on the 9.1b iso. Perhaps you've fixed it! ;-) -randy
Re: [Cooker] install user : "accept' button not very well placed.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christophe Combelles wrote on Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:36:52PM +0100 : > This is a matter of ergonomics : > > During install, when new users can be added, the button "accept" (a > user) should be placed at the right of the text fields, or just below them. > > The current place for this button is not correct, because after having > entered the username, name and passwords, one may click on the "done" > button to confirm this user. Then the user will in fact not be > installed, because the correct button was "accept" and not "done". I don't understand this, but maybe I haven't done the same thing as you. I do a full install. At the new user, I enter name, username, password twice and click done. When it reboots, I have two users, root and todd. According to your description the user todd shouldn't be there. But it is, so you must be doing something different. Please elaborate. - -- ...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee. Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JLRvlp7v05cW2woRAnIHAJ4mMeOM5zBL8ZdmDdG5tMFg+eqL1QCfbo47 5nORyv96aYgUQAmFku+IVpI= =kb5w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
J. Greenlees a écrit: Pixel wrote: Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matter of ergonomics : The automatic logon is not a very secure feature. [...] Either : Add the string "(not recommended)" just after the string "do you want to use this feature", to give the good advice, Or better : replace the two buttons "YES" and "NO" with two radio buttons "yes" and "no". The radion button enabled by default should be "no". And add a standard "next" button. So the user which does not understand this feature will just click on "next" and won't have this feature enabled, which is a good choice. i agree the ergonomics of this box is no good. but i do not agree this is that unsafe. i'd agree to add "(not recommended)" iff the user has a password-secured bootloader. and in that case, it's even better not to propose autologin :) for people new to linux from windows, the automatic login is what windows gives them. Not since people are discovering multiuser with 2000/XP (at last) So, as a summary : automatic logon is for "single user at home" manual logon is for every other case : several users So I post a modified version of my suggested UI : --- I can set up your computer to automatically logon a user... Do you want to use this feature ? (x) no (default for most cases) ( ) yes (useful for single user at home) user :[(v) user1] desktop : [(v) KDE ] [<- back ] [ next ->] - for single user home use it may not be as much a risk, which is where linux will have to get people from windows to expand user base. would definitely put a "not recommended for business/company/corporate computers" tag in. though most network admins should know that anyway. been discussing in a forum about linux/ windows, most windows users won't switch until point and click ui is all they have to deal with. maybe a single cd version set up for complete new users that gives them the mushroom treatment windows users are used to from ms. no options to speak of during install, no choice in ui, and set to runlevel 5 after install with automatic login. this would allow un-informed windows users to check Mandrake out in a way they are used to being treated. ;) (though I would recommend against completely removing their windows partitions during the install, even though windows would demand that any other partitions be rebuilt.
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
Pixel wrote: Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matter of ergonomics : The automatic logon is not a very secure feature. [...] Either : Add the string "(not recommended)" just after the string "do you want to use this feature", to give the good advice, Or better : replace the two buttons "YES" and "NO" with two radio buttons "yes" and "no". The radion button enabled by default should be "no". And add a standard "next" button. So the user which does not understand this feature will just click on "next" and won't have this feature enabled, which is a good choice. i agree the ergonomics of this box is no good. but i do not agree this is that unsafe. i'd agree to add "(not recommended)" iff the user has a password-secured bootloader. and in that case, it's even better not to propose autologin :) for people new to linux from windows, the automatic login is what windows gives them. for single user home use it may not be as much a risk, which is where linux will have to get people from windows to expand user base. would definitely put a "not recommended for business/company/corporate computers" tag in. though most network admins should know that anyway. been discussing in a forum about linux/ windows, most windows users won't switch until point and click ui is all they have to deal with. maybe a single cd version set up for complete new users that gives them the mushroom treatment windows users are used to from ms. no options to speak of during install, no choice in ui, and set to runlevel 5 after install with automatic login. this would allow un-informed windows users to check Mandrake out in a way they are used to being treated. ;) (though I would recommend against completely removing their windows partitions during the install, even though windows would demand that any other partitions be rebuilt.
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
So what about the radio buttons ? --- I can set up your computer to automatically logon a user... Do you want to use this feature ? (x) no (default) ( ) yes user :[(v) user1] desktop : [(v) KDE ] [<- back ] [ next ->] - Pixel a écrit: Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matter of ergonomics : The automatic logon is not a very secure feature. [...] Either : Add the string "(not recommended)" just after the string "do you want to use this feature", to give the good advice, Or better : replace the two buttons "YES" and "NO" with two radio buttons "yes" and "no". The radion button enabled by default should be "no". And add a standard "next" button. So the user which does not understand this feature will just click on "next" and won't have this feature enabled, which is a good choice. i agree the ergonomics of this box is no good. but i do not agree this is that unsafe. i'd agree to add "(not recommended)" iff the user has a password-secured bootloader. and in that case, it's even better not to propose autologin :)
Re: [Cooker] install : cannot skip the bootlader step !
Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > During install, the bootloader step cannot be skipped. > > Worse : I wanted to install just on my partition hdd10, when the bootloader > question comes up, there was no choice to not install it. So I thought that > the "back" button would act like a "cancel" button, but NO ! It has installed > the bootloader at clicking on "back" ! fixed. "back" button now do cancel. as for back-meaning-cancel, it will be taken care of... thanks!
Re: [Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matter of ergonomics : > > The automatic logon is not a very secure feature. [...] > Either : Add the string "(not recommended)" just after the string "do you want > to use this feature", to give the good advice, > > Or better : replace the two buttons "YES" and "NO" with two radio buttons > "yes" and "no". The radion button enabled by default should be "no". And add a > standard "next" button. > So the user which does not understand this feature will just click on "next" > and won't have this feature enabled, which is a good choice. i agree the ergonomics of this box is no good. but i do not agree this is that unsafe. i'd agree to add "(not recommended)" iff the user has a password-secured bootloader. and in that case, it's even better not to propose autologin :)
[Cooker] install : cannot skip the bootlader step !
During install, the bootloader step cannot be skipped. Worse : I wanted to install just on my partition hdd10, when the bootloader question comes up, there was no choice to not install it. So I thought that the "back" button would act like a "cancel" button, but NO ! It has installed the bootloader at clicking on "back" !
Re: [Cooker] install : formatted partition without confirmation
Pixel a écrit: Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I Started install I deleted my partition hdd10 I recreated the partition hdd10 with a different size. I choosed "/" as mountpoint for this partition. I validated --> the partition is formatted without confirmation Is it normal ?? yes, you created a new partition... mmh, yes, but in this case I really hope there is no bug when building the list of partitions to automatically format...
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
Viestissä Tiistai 14. Tammikuuta 2003 23:09, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti: > Viestissä Tiistai 14. Tammikuuta 2003 22:21, Pixel kirjoitti: > > "Thomas Backlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > 3.Mouse Configuration... > > > - Logitech MouseMan+ not identified correctly, wheel wont work > > > > hum, > > - did it work better with mdk 9.0 > > Worked perfect. > > > - can you test redhat 9.0 or even 9.1beta (phoebe) and see if it works > > better? > This seems to be the same as bug as 794. I can't confirm if it works or not on a running cooker, since I can't get it running ... :-( -- Thomas ** * If nothing else works, read the manual ... ... ... **
Re: [Cooker] install : formatted partition without confirmation
Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I Started install > I deleted my partition hdd10 > I recreated the partition hdd10 with a different size. > I choosed "/" as mountpoint for this partition. > I validated > > --> the partition is formatted without confirmation > > Is it normal ?? yes, you created a new partition...
[Cooker] install : automatic logon should be told "not recommended"
Matter of ergonomics : The automatic logon is not a very secure feature. So when asking for this feature, the usual correct answer is "no", which is not a natural answer for a default choice. The user which does not very well understand this feature will defautly answer "yes", because "yes" is commonly a default answer. I suggest one of the two things : Either : Add the string "(not recommended)" just after the string "do you want to use this feature", to give the good advice, Or better : replace the two buttons "YES" and "NO" with two radio buttons "yes" and "no". The radion button enabled by default should be "no". And add a standard "next" button. So the user which does not understand this feature will just click on "next" and won't have this feature enabled, which is a good choice.
[Cooker] install user : "accept' button not very well placed.
This is a matter of ergonomics : During install, when new users can be added, the button "accept" (a user) should be placed at the right of the text fields, or just below them. The current place for this button is not correct, because after having entered the username, name and passwords, one may click on the "done" button to confirm this user. Then the user will in fact not be installed, because the correct button was "accept" and not "done". These two buttons are too close one from each other and should be better separated.
[Cooker] install : formatted partition without confirmation
I Started install I deleted my partition hdd10 I recreated the partition hdd10 with a different size. I choosed "/" as mountpoint for this partition. I validated --> the partition is formatted without confirmation Is it normal ??
[Cooker] install : mouse cursor forced to stay in the dark blue area
- Start install with a wheel mouse - choose "standard wheel mouse" at mouse choice, click next - test your buttons (at this step the mouse is forced to stay in the dark blue area, ok), and validate. --> even at the next step, the mouse cannot be driven outside the dark blue area !
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
Viestissä Tiistai 14. Tammikuuta 2003 22:21, Pixel kirjoitti: > "Thomas Backlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ok, bug fixed. > very weird bug, it could impact a lot of check buttons :-( > Nice ;-) > > 3.Mouse Configuration... > > - Logitech MouseMan+ not identified correctly, wheel wont work > > hum, > - did it work better with mdk 9.0 Worked perfect. > - can you test redhat 9.0 or even 9.1beta (phoebe) and see if it works > better? > I'll download it tonight, and try tomorrow... > > > - Now this is fun... bad sector/cluster checking is ON BY DEFAULT, > > wich I also noticed, when clicking the advanced button , so it will > > take 'forever' to get my 15G rootpartition formatted. > > i'd say it's the bug above occuring... if you don't click, it should > be ok :) > Nope. I tried a install without clicking on the advanced, and when the system formatted the partition, I switched to the console showing work in progress (ALt-F3 ?) mke2fs was invoked with the '-c' option ... > > > 7.Graphical Interface... > > - since X is not installed, > > what do you mean? not installed or not configured? If I remember correctly, it stated 'not installed' on the button, but according to the install log every needed package was installed, so the button should have stated 'not configured' > > I click on this, and get to choose my system > > - I Chose my monitor, a 17" Belinea 107035 > > - I chose Geforce (fbdev) since I have a Geforce4 Ti4200 > > it was the default, wasn't it? AFAIK, yes. > > > - The only color option is 16bit colours (is this a limitation of > > fbdev?) > > - When returning to the summary, the 'not configured' has changed to > > 'x 0bpp' > > will fix (only occurs for fbdev) > Nice ;-) -- Thomas ** * If nothing else works, read the manual ... ... ... **
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
"Thomas Backlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > 2.Choose install language... > - I chose Finnish > - Select Advanced... > - All options are selected (deselecting 'all' at the bottom didn't >unselect any, had to be done one by one ok, bug fixed. very weird bug, it could impact a lot of check buttons :-( [...] > 3.Mouse Configuration... > - Logitech MouseMan+ not identified correctly, wheel wont work hum, - did it work better with mdk 9.0 - can you test redhat 9.0 or even 9.1beta (phoebe) and see if it works better? [...] > - Now this is fun... bad sector/cluster checking is ON BY DEFAULT, > wich I also noticed, when clicking the advanced button , so it will > take 'forever' to get my 15G rootpartition formatted. i'd say it's the bug above occuring... if you don't click, it should be ok :) > > 5.Package Selection... > - The 'Individual Package Selection' option is ignored, the install starts >directly, after selecting main package groups, and choosing 'next' weird. others had a "too big window", so they did have individual package selection. > > 6.On the summary screen, not all lines use the Finnish translations >( even if the libDrakX.mo file used is one that is 100% translated) > - Bootloader > - Graphical Interface DrakX.pot was not uptodate. Pablo should do this ASAP. > > 7.Graphical Interface... > - since X is not installed, what do you mean? not installed or not configured? > I click on this, and get to choose my system > - I Chose my monitor, a 17” Belinea 107035 > - I chose Geforce (fbdev) since I have a Geforce4 Ti4200 it was the default, wasn't it? > - The only color option is 16bit colours (is this a limitation of > fbdev?) > - When returning to the summary, the 'not configured' has changed to > 'x 0bpp' will fix (only occurs for fbdev) thanks!
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
> 4.Partitioning and Formatting... > - I didn't try to repartition anything, since ATM there are some 'horror >stories' what the MDK partitioning has done to manyharddisk partition >tables..., so I just selected what partitions to install to, and >selected to format the root partition. > - Now this is fun... bad sector/cluster checking is ON BY DEFAULT, > wich I also noticed, when clicking the advanced button , so it will > take 'forever' to get my 15G rootpartition formatted. Also, the drives are used in PIO mode (or something awful like that) since the identifiers for the motherboard controllers are not recognized. The latest AC kernel has the identifiers for the IDE controllers, can those patches be incorporated into the std. cooker kernel as well as boot images? The last time I checked, the hd.img boot kernel was 2.4.19 and I'd greatly appreciate one which works at full speed on the nforce2 motherboards. It took > 30 min. to format a 6GB partition during my latest installation! Narfi.
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
From: "Thomas Backlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry all for the Read Requests, it ashould not happend anymore, since I'm not using my work mail account directly anymore... And so I removed the setting 'Request Read Receipt' Thomas
Re: [Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
Some corrections below... Thomas From: "Thomas Backlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.EXPERT INSTALL... - I used my own cd-set created with MakeCD of my local sunsite.uio.no mirror rsynced as of this morning 01.00 EET (6 CD's including contribs) - Should gendistrib be used before MakeCD, or is it only for net/hd installs? ( since the MakeCD does not put unresolved dependecies on the disks) - The system is: -Asus A7N8X DeLuxe nforce2 motherboard - AMD XP 1800+ - Geforce4 Ti4200 - Maxtor 120GB HDD with 8MB cache 2.Choose install language... - I chose Finnish - Select Advanced... - All options are selected (deselecting 'all' at the bottom didn't unselect any, had to be done one by one ( I wanted to add Swedish and English UTF-8 ) 3.Mouse Configuration... - Logitech MouseMan+ not identified correctly, wheel wont work - If you go back and try to select a different mouse, for example the Standard, it wont work anymore, you have to use the first selected one to get the mouse to work. 4.Partitioning – Formatting... - I didn't try to repartition anything, since ATM there are some 'horror stories' what the MDK partitioning has done to manyharddisk partition tables..., so I just selected what partitions to install to, and selected to format the root partition. - Now this is fun... bad sector/cluster checking is ON BY DEFAULT, wich I also noticed, when clicking the advanced button , so it will take 'forever' to get my 15G rootpartition formatted. 5.Package Selection... - The 'Individual Package Selection' option is ignored, the install starts directly, after selecting main package groups, and choosing 'next' 6.On the summary screen, not all lines use the Finnish translations ( even if the libDrakX.mo file used is one that is 100% translated) - Bootloader - Graphical Interface 7.Graphical Interface... - since X is not installed, I click on this, and get to choose my system - I Chose my monitor, a 17” Belinea 107035 - I chose Geforce (fbdev) since I have a Geforce4 Ti4200 - The only color option is 16bit colours (is this a limitation of fbdev?) - When returning to the summary, the 'not configured' has changed to 'x 0bpp' 8.Choose Services to start at boot time... - The selection area is to larger than the space allocated, and therefore the buttons on the bottom does not show. I only get it to work since I now how to use them using keyboard only. 9. BOOTING THE SYSTEM - 'linux' boot hangs with: - mount: error 6 mounting ext3 flags Kernel panic: no init found - 'linux noapic' hangs at the same point... as 'linux' - 'Failsafe' gets the system going a little bit longer... until: - it tries to read the disk: 'hda: no response (status = 0xfe)', and then hangs with the same error as 'linux' 10. so to summarize, there is no way to boot the current cooker on the above hardware, but MDK 9.0 worked on it... Thats all for now... -- Thomas ** * If nothing else works, read the manual ... ... ... **
[Cooker] Current Cooker install bugs and nforce2 bugs
1.EXPERT INSTALL... - I used my own cd-set created with MakeCD of my local sunsite.uio.no mirror rsynced as of this morning 01.00 EET (6 CD's including contribs) - The system is: -Asus A7N8X DeLuxe nforce2 motherboard - AMD XP 1800+ - Geforce4 Ti4200 - Maxtor 120GB HDD with 8MB cache 2.Choose install language... - I chose Finnish - Select Advanced... - All options are selected (deselecting 'all' at the bottom didn't ( I wanted to add Swedish and English UTF-8 ) 3.Mouse Configuration... - Logitech MouseMan+ not identified correctly, wheel wont work - If you go back and try to select a different mouse, for example the Standard, it wont work anymore, you have to use the first selected one to get the mouse to work. 4.Partitioning – Formatting... - I didn't try to repartition anything, since ATM there are some 'horror stories' what the MDK partitioning has done to manyharddisk partition tables..., so I just selected what partitions to install to, and selected to format the root partition. - Now this is fun... bad sector/cluster checking is ON BY DEFAULT, wich I also noticed, when clicking the advanced button , so it will take 'forever' to get my 15G rootpartition formatted. 5.Package Selection... - The 'Individual Package Selection' option is ignored, the install starts directly, after selecting main package groups, and choosing 'next' 6.On the summary screen, not all lines use the Finnish translations ( even if the libDrakX.mo file used is one that is 100% translated) - Bootloader - Graphical Interface 7.Graphical Interface... - since X is not installed, I click on this, and get to choose my system - I Chose my monitor, a 17” Belinea 107035 - I chose Geforce (fbdev) since I have a Geforce4 Ti4200 - The only color option is 16bit colours (is this a limitation of fbdev?) - When returning to the summary, the 'not configured' has changed to 'x 0bpp' 8.Choose Services to start at boot time... - The selection area is to larger than the space allocated, and therefore the buttons on the bottom does not show. I only get it to work since I now how to use them using keyboard only. 9. BOOTING THE SYSTEM - 'linux' boot hangs with: - mount: error 6 mounting ext3 flags Kernel panic: no init found - 'linux noapic' hangs at the same point... as 'linux' - 'Failsafe' gets the system going a little bit longer... until: - it tries to read the disk: 'hda: no response (status = 0xfe)', and then hangs with the same error as 'linux' 10. so to summarize, there is no way to boot the current cooker on the above hardware, but MDK 9.0 worked on it... Thats all for now... -- Thomas ** * If nothing else works, read the manual ... ... ... **
[Cooker] install : timezone goes back to default choice when moving the mouse
At the end of install, when the summary is displayed, the timezone is America/NewYork (although I have done the install in french-UTF8) - Click on the timezone to change it. - Close the "America" branch - move fast the mouse from left to right over "America" The "America" branch opens by itself, and the cursor goes back to the default choice "America/NewYork"
[Cooker] install : french UTF8 -> english
I have choosed only "french UTF8" for install, and the install is in english.
[Cooker] install : no proxy ?
During network config, no proxy configuration was proposed. I hope this has not been disabled ?
Re: [Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : "/" appears twice
"Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a > mountpoint for a partition, the "/" appears twice in the list of choices. weird, i don't have this...
[Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : "/" appears twice
During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a mountpoint for a partition, the "/" appears twice in the list of choices.
[Cooker] Install Report of mdk91beta
(I would have posted this to bugzilla but i've had problems with logging into a user account to post this stuff too. Anyhow, it is cooker related.) Install Problems: The install is looking more polished then mdk90. 1) [When booting with the rescue cdrom] That @#$@#$ terminal beep on the rescue boot of the mdk91 cdrom is turned on! 2) [At the end of the install] X11 settings are set to "custom" (default) when modifying them. (The applet doesn't remember the settings made, but the config file appears to be written to with the modified settings). 3) [Near the end of the of the install] The "ok" or "done" button when configuring which services to start on boot is hidden or placed off the display screen. I had to use the keyboard keys (tab/cursors) to get to the next screen (especially since the links/buttons on the far left menu were inoperable). 4) [Networking config] It found my orinoco gold wireless pcmcia card ;-) and configured it (without locking the system!). however, i also have a eepro100 on an actiontek minipci card which it failed to properly configure (maybe i screwed up here..dunno). So i used netconf to fix things. One scenario I didn't like is that the install configured my wireless as eth0 and my nic as eth1. Probabely should have configured the wireless as eth1 and the nic as eth0 as the wireless is a removable pcmcia cardbut come to think of it, there are now minipci cards with wireless nics. Package Related Problems: 4) Evolution appears to be a little buggy (crashed once on Summary setup...appears to be an app specific problem. Probabely needs an additional patch/upgrade to make it more stable.). I was also screwing around in mdk90 with rebuilding and installing evolution (including all it's depends ie libbonobo, ...) and on starting evolution-1.2.1-1mdk, it wiped out all of my evolution-1.0.8-3mdk mail server settings (filters/virtual settings were ok though). So I regressed to evolution-1.0.8-3mdk. Somebody may want to verify this! Some of the other evolution settings were also wiped-out...but some were migrated with the upgrade. 5) when "rpm --rebuild gnome-terminal" missing libncurses-devel dep 6) Gnome Desktop appears to have a delay when doing/executing anything in it. (ie gaining keyboard/mouse focus of gnome-terminal and typing in the terminal) 7) Click & Play users may grumble a bit about not having an xconfig tool to manage their /etc/sysconfig/desktop file My big grumble: Bah! The kernel wants to use up all of my ram for cache! This is really a problem with "rpm --rebuild" (looks like when tar -jxvf files is being processed during specfile execution, ram is not being re-claimed from cache). Bah! and the cache performance isn't so hot. I would rather have nocache since it only saves me 30% startup time on mozilla and I only startup mozilla once on bootup and i rarely reboot (like 1-3 days on my laptop). I've already researched some options such as adding to lilo.conf append "nocache" but appears to have no effect. And I can't find anywhere in /proc to modify the cache settings (think in kernel-2.2 there were /proc files that could be modded, now it's all within .c/.h files?). Eh, I have 512MB of ram. On initial startup and with X11, I end up with ~80MB used. after an "rpm --rebuild", I end up with ~11MB free and ~380MB cached! I do see some reclaiming of the cache file after awhile...dunno. Other minor notes: 1) kernel has no xfs fs support. looked at the changelog and says "* xfs integrated upstream."? So much for accessing my external hdd via ieee1394 as it is an xfs fs. 2) i'm seeing stuff in the kernel changelog and messages about swsuspend, however, I can't find anything with "man apm" (supposedly a patch for apm)etc, or howto implement it. This might be a good reason to use ext3 fs on my laptop now. mmm..forgot to grep the kernel-source Documentation for swsuspend. (noticed kernel is acpi...etc) -- Roger - Verify my pgp/gnupg signature on my homepage: http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/index.html
[Cooker] Install Mandrake from an external ieee1394 cdrom?
Anybody know if one can yet install mandrake from an external ieee1394 (firewire) cdrom? I do see a /mnt/cdrom1/images/usb.img and I think I have used it with my cdrom in a USB 2.0 external case (and the image does contain the usb-uhci module -- usb20 module). However, ieee1394 appears more stable and much faster using less cpu power (for obvious reasons). I believe the modules that would need to be included for an image would be ieee1394.o and ohci1394 (sbp2.o would also be a good module to include as it is for hard drive access (via ieee1394/firewire)). I did spend sometime trying to create my own ieee1394.img, however, failed and forget the problem that I was having. I believe it was something like I was able to package the image file with the ieee1394.o/ohci1394.o/sbp2.o modules but for some reason, the diskette wouldn't recognize the device. I do believe i was also ending up modprobing the modules manually. ...anyways...just a thought. -- Roger - Verify my pgp/gnupg signature on my homepage: http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/index.html
