Re: [Cooker] rpm naming format has changed?

2001-07-25 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Digital Wokan« am 2001-07-24 um 18:57:54 -0400 :
 It does seem like a silly idea.  If it's the third run at getting an RPM
 updated, it should be -3mdk, not -1.2mdk.  Let's leave the dotted
 versions to the software and not the package attempts.

Dotted versions are normally just security fixes.

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Re: [Cooker] rpm naming format has changed?

2001-07-25 Thread Vincent Danen

On Tue Jul 24, 2001 at 07:22:54PM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:

  It does seem like a silly idea.  If it's the third run at getting an RPM
  updated, it should be -3mdk, not -1.2mdk.  Let's leave the dotted
  versions to the software and not the package attempts.
 
 I actually believe they were being used to update packages after
 release, so that security updates on say 8.0 didn't end up having the
 same package version as packages in cooker.  Apparently that was
 creating much confusing when there were two packages with identical
 versions but different contents.

Exactly.  This discussion has been made when we first started using
decimal releases for security updates.  The purpose of decimal
releases for updates is so that the package is never higher than what
is in cooker.  Cooker should *always* have a higher revision
number...  For instance, if a new package comes out that fixes a
security problem, it will be -1mdk in cooker.  If I were to follow
standard naming conventions, 8.0 would be -2mdk, 7.2 -3mdk, and 7.1
-4mdk... now all of a sudden it looks to rpm that the updates are
newer than cooker.  If someone wants to upgrade to something in
cooker, they cannot do so easily because the revision for the update
is higher (in the case of 7.1, as many as three revisions higher).

decimal releases *work*.  If they didn't, we wouldn't be using them
and rpm would not be installing them.  It is the logic in rpmdrake or
rpminst that has problems and that needs to be corrected, not the
update revision schema.

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[Cooker] rpm naming format has changed?

2001-07-24 Thread Joe Menola

I don't recall the use of decimals being used in versions of rpms. (

I assume xinetd-2.0.3-1.1mdk is newer then xinetd-2.0.3-1mdk? 

rpminst seems to think 2.0.3-1 is the newer file?

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Re: [Cooker] rpm naming format has changed?

2001-07-24 Thread Digital Wokan

It does seem like a silly idea.  If it's the third run at getting an RPM
updated, it should be -3mdk, not -1.2mdk.  Let's leave the dotted
versions to the software and not the package attempts.

Joe Menola wrote:
 
 I don't recall the use of decimals being used in versions of rpms. (
 
 I assume xinetd-2.0.3-1.1mdk is newer then xinetd-2.0.3-1mdk?
 
 rpminst seems to think 2.0.3-1 is the newer file?
 
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Re: [Cooker] rpm naming format has changed?

2001-07-24 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:57:54PM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:
 It does seem like a silly idea.  If it's the third run at getting an RPM
 updated, it should be -3mdk, not -1.2mdk.  Let's leave the dotted
 versions to the software and not the package attempts.

I actually believe they were being used to update packages after
release, so that security updates on say 8.0 didn't end up having the
same package version as packages in cooker.  Apparently that was
creating much confusing when there were two packages with identical
versions but different contents.

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Re: [Cooker] rpm naming format has changed?

2001-07-24 Thread David Walluck

Digital Wokan wrote:

 It does seem like a silly idea.  If it's the third run at getting an RPM
 updated, it should be -3mdk, not -1.2mdk.  Let's leave the dotted
 versions to the software and not the package attempts.


No, the .'s have a specific purpose, they're used only for security 
updates to specific stable packages. So it helps one to distinguish 
between a Cooker update and a Security update and a normal package.



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