Re: [Cooker] diskdrake & root rxvt
hum, i forgot to say i didn't manage to reproduce it a second time. guillaume a écrit : Hi again, I tried to open diskdrake in graphical mcc : it didn't want to load (in mcc) until i closed the terminal in which i sued as root. Does this deserve a bug report ? Guillaume
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake munching fstab comments [Was: How to get rid of "KDEInit could not launch 'kfmclient'" message?]
On Wed 26 Mar 2003 05:01, Pixel posted as excerpted below: > Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The resulting fstab is attached as fstab.munched. Not only are all those > > notes about options gone, but so is my nice ordering by function. > > Furthermore, all my devfs-failure-safe paths have disappeared [] > > this is the contrary. If devfs fail to mount, your solution is bad. It > is if devfsd fail to run that your solution is better. Aye. My mistake then. All I know is it didn't work, and these paths did. > handling everything the way everyone want need artificial > intelligence. > > more precisely, having it keep the order could be done. Keeping > spacing could be done too. But this is not easy, and will introduce > bugs for sure. > > same (but even worse) for XFdrake I figured XFdrake was to much to hope for, as that gets /very/ complicated to try and get it all right, with multiple screens, etc. Perhaps someday.. as MSWormOS seems to handle it all pretty well automatically, multiple screens and all. (You can even set up comments in separate value/data entries in the registry, and the automated thing doesn't touch them -- it ignores them as something it doesn't know about.) However, in that respect, Linux (not just Mdk) still has some ways to go. Still, would be nice to have automated tools that leave the current situation as-is in fstab, if all you are doing is adding a mount entry, given that there's no reason it would need to change the order. Even changing an entry shouldn't in theory be impossible or even incredibly difficult to do in place, leaving all other lines as they are. That's certainly easier than it would be in a critically sectionaized ordering such as XF86Config. However, at least it doesn't miss-parse comments as mount-points, as it did, to my dismay, in Mdk 8.1 or so.Thus, what remains isn't so critical. Thanks! -- Duncan "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem withsolution
Thomas Backlund wrote: From: "John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Any system that has EVER had a file system with Windows or DOS on it has the following part structure. Part #s 1-4 can be primary. Part #5 is always an extended part table to hold logical drives. Parts 6 and up can be logicals. | | And Windows allows for 4 primaries, not 3. So a mixed system or a | migrators system will have a mess. | You have misread the partition tables, or how it works... Windows/dos (or actually the partitioning scheme) does allow for 4 primaries, BUT the extended partition counts as one primary. You dot believe me? If so, it's easy to test ... 1. Create 4 primary partitions. (make sure you leave some empty space on the disk, for example 4 x 1GB partitions on a 10 GB disk leaves you with 6 GB of free space on the disk...) 2. Now try to make a extended partition... IT WON'T WORK 3. Remove one of the primary partitions. Now you can create an extended partition that uses the free space on the disk, that also allows you to make logical partitions... Thomas OK, point made, because I did that(I had thought the extended part table was a special case). However, some of what I was trying to say is that what linux sees as how Windows numbers things is that the extended table is always one up from that last created Primary, also. therfore, what happens when a windows tool is used to make Ext3 or Ext2 is that: If primary 1 and 2 exist, then extended part table is 3, first logical is 5, etc. If primary 1 exists, then extended part table is 2 and the logicals start at 5. diskdrake numbers it 4-- so long as only and forever Diskdrake works on parts, this is fine, but when it errors it does need something else to work on it to fix or the /etc/fstab manually revised after an e2fsck failure at boot. If a Windows or DOS based tool, including Ranish, sees a single primary, an extended numbered 4 and a logical numbered 5 it will says the chain is invalid. most GUI'd Windows tools will then invalidate the drive insofar as access is concerned. Linux Logical parts can live within a Win95 Ext'd LBA defined if they themselves each bound on CHS boundaries. User cannot calc those boundaries, new current HD have variable sectors per track-- either diskdrake talks to drive controller or it needs to use nearest pure cylinder bound less than user assigned space (calcing with avg. sectors\track will give a CHS bound, good enough). What does w newbie do when asking fro size of part??? 8,000,000 Kbytes is roughly 8Gig-- so he says 8,000 MB. Asks for that. PM 8.0 lets you drag, and shows you valid CHS boundary increments. Nice-- if use then part numbers change versus what /etc/fstab was written to reflect, things get mashed AGAIN until manual edit performed. Windows based tools that are backward compatible do this, and I also get different sized parts out of what diskdrake tells me while the windows tools tell exactly what the bound is by changing the size dynamically to show the revised size bounded to CHS. Newbie favors this info level, WILL use these tools if was a Windows power user tired of paying for Windows junk that crashes and has security holes that Linux does not (prime business motivator, and where Mandrake tends to get support funds, and where I KNOW RedHat gets support and training income). Easiest fix is to unhook the mount link by commenting it, then reboot and try to fix. Diskdrake erred, so newbie is GONNA try something else. Newbie likes GUIs-- is he gonna go for a CLI based thing that has no visual feedback and little validate before write?? No, he is not-- is he gonna pay for something obviously broken??? Half won't-- our market increase potential for Linux Mandrake as a whole just halved itself. I gotta sell Windows users on this thing, and if must say here is how you do this with windows tools to handle a diskdrake prob, they are not gonna use diskdrake, tell friends they can't cuz its broke, and the FUD starts, and Mandrake's rep suffers. The core user tools HAVE to be clear, clearly doced, with fallback recovery procedures in that doc-- procedures tuned for EASY. Two major areas picking up Linux use in my area-- Small businesses and end users, and both need things they can do for themselves, not things having to pay someone for tech support. I have a school district interested in the LTSP, but if a Parapro cannot maintain a HD with GUI'd Linux tools he is gonna use GUI'D windows tools that the district has on hand. Resulting conflicts between Mandrake's tools and other tools that can make valid Ext3 parts that linux can use will result in increased resistance to Linux rather than a ground swell, and where schools go there go our kids here for the most part -- another resistance to overcome. John.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem withsolution
Pixel wrote: "John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The commented line is what I had to pull to get the machine to boot past an ext2 fsck that said it could not find a superblock when I tried to boot the machine into Linux. [...] I was trying to use Diskdrake from the GUI when this happened, as any newbie would. so, as far as i understand, the bug is: when creating a partition on a live system with diskdrake, it writes the partition table, it writes the fstab, *but* it doesn't manage to format the partition because it wants to reboot first. is that it? if that's the pb, I thought it was fixed, *unless* you did resize a partition first. Summary: Write part table as Ext2Fs when Ext3FS type chosen. Fails to format-- errors and says it has to do so after reboot. Then wants to write fstab anyway. No resize. No extended part table anything else can recognize of common available tools a newbie would have handy. NOT FIXED! John. -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem with solution
From: "John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Any system that has EVER had a file system with Windows or DOS on it has the >>following part structure. >> >>Part #s 1-4 can be primary. >>Part #5 is always an extended part table to hold logical drives. >>Parts 6 and up can be logicals. >> | | And Windows allows for 4 primaries, not 3. So a mixed system or a | migrators system will have a mess. | You have missread the partition tables, or how it works... Windows/dos (or actually te partitioning scheme) does allow for 4 primaries, BUT the extended partition counts as one primary. You dont belive me? If so, it's easy to test ... 1. Create 4 primary partitions. (make sure you leave some emty space on the disk, for example 4 x 1GB partitions on a 10 GB disk leaves you with 6 GB of free space on the disk...) 2. Now try to make a extended partition... IT WON'T WORK 3. Remove one of the primary partitions. Now you can create an extended partition that uses tthe free space on the disk, that also allows you to make logical partitions... Thomas
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem with solution
"John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The commented line is what I had to pull to get the machine to boot past an > ext2 fsck that said it could not find a superblock when I tried to boot the > machine into Linux. > [...] > I was trying to use Diskdrake from the GUI when this happened, as any newbie > would. so, as far as i understand, the bug is: when creating a partition on a live system with diskdrake, it writes the partition table, it writes the fstab, *but* it doesn't manage to format the partition because it wants to reboot first. is that it? if that's the pb, I thought it was fixed, *unless* you did resize a partition first.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem with solution
Pixel wrote: "John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Any system that has EVER had a file system with Windows or DOS on it has the following part structure. Part #s 1-4 can be primary. Part #5 is always an extended part table to hold logical drives. Parts 6 and up can be logicals. it really seems like we can't agree on terminology or ??? % fdisk -l /dev/sda [...] Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 2 16033+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 * 3 263 2096482+ 83 Linux /dev/sda3 264 276104422+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 277 1106 9755 Extended /dev/sda5 277 340514048+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 341 353104391 82 Linux swap ... /dev/sda11 1013 1106755023+ 83 Linux parts #5-#11 are included in #4 And Windows allows for 4 primaries, not 3. So a mixed system or a migrators system will have a mess. You are using SCSI, me IDE also. fdisk -l /dev/hda Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1021 8201151 83 Linux /dev/hda2 1022 9729 69947010f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 1022 1071401593+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 2960 3980 8201151 83 Linux /dev/hda7 1072 2959 15165297 83 Linux /dev/hda8 3981 5313 10707291 83 Linux /dev/hda9 5314 8513 25703968+ 83 Linux /dev/hda10 8514 8901 3116578+ 83 Linux /dev/hda11 8902 9729 6650878+ 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order [root@ root]# fdisk -l /dev/hdb omitting empty partition (5) Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 648 5205028+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb2 649 698401625 82 Linux swap /dev/hdb3 699 4865 33471396f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb5 700 1606 7285414+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb6 1607 2368 6120702 83 Linux /dev/hdb7 2369 4865 20057121 83 Linux [root@ root]# fdisk -l /dev/hdd Disk /dev/hdd: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 7297 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdd1 1 1021 8201151b Win95 FAT32 [root@ root]# where anything based on DOS or Windows sticks the extended is based on how many Primaries there are: What fdisk saw on theHD after diskdrake was done as I described was: hda1 / hda4 Extended hda5 /cookermirror (type unknown) as in /etc/fstab but hda5 was unformatted and marked as Ext2 when I told Diskdrake to use Ext3 here is the /etc/fstab [root@ root]# cat /etc/fstab /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 # /dev/hda5 /Cookermirror ext3 noauto 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hd auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 /dev/hda1 /newslash ext3 defaults 1 2 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb5 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0 [root@ root]# The commented line is what I had to pull to get the machine to boot past an ext2 fsck that said it could not find a superblock when I tried to boot the machine into Linux. BTW, Supermount WORKS on this P4 box, even in stock Mandrake 9.0. I was trying to use Diskdrake from the GUI when this happened, as any newbie would. John.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem with solution
"John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Any system that has EVER had a file system with Windows or DOS on it has the > following part structure. > > Part #s 1-4 can be primary. > Part #5 is always an extended part table to hold logical drives. > Parts 6 and up can be logicals. it really seems like we can't agree on terminology or ??? % fdisk -l /dev/sda [...] Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 2 16033+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 * 3 263 2096482+ 83 Linux /dev/sda3 264 276104422+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 277 1106 9755 Extended /dev/sda5 277 340514048+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 341 353104391 82 Linux swap ... /dev/sda11 1013 1106755023+ 83 Linux parts #5-#11 are included in #4
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem withsolution
Pixel wrote: "John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Something that just happened to me made me think that documenting a particular recovery process would help many people: How to get your /etc/fstab file edited from a floppy boot when your partitioning is set up to have a separate /usr part: Go into maintenance shell, as the e2fsck fails due to it thinking from the /etc/fstab that a partition is /dev/hda5 when it is /dev/hda6 (or some such radically wrong number, part 5 should always be the extended part table). [...] Just a thought, but could flesh out the procedure if wanted for newbie to know how to edit /etc/fstab from what a floppy boot drops to when an unrecoverable bad superblock error is triggered by diskdrake assigning /dev/hda5 to first extended part and not allowing for the extended part table(and then erroring as it is created, but still offering to write the /etc/fstab, which I did let it do last night at 1 AM). diskdrake defaults optional things like /cookermirror to extended\logical type, but fails to set up an exclusion of part 5 for the extended part table and writes a /dev/hda5 entry in /etc/fstab for the new part if it is the first logical created on a physical disk-- sheesh. Then it decides the extended part table has a bad superblock because is trying to use it as a partition that can be read to and written to directly. i'm missing something. what is this "part 5 being special"? Any system that has EVER had a file system with Windows or DOS on it has the following part structure. Part #s 1-4 can be primary. Part #5 is always an extended part table to hold logical drives. Parts 6 and up can be logicals. Anyone with a multiboot box which has windows, or who never wiped the HD to retain data they wanted to still use with that data on FAT or FAT32 parts will end up using partition managers based on what they have. Things like PM 8, PM 7, anything based on a FAT O/S host, will indeed renumber a part 5 to 6 and encapsulate it in a part 5 that is a table showing start and end points of the logical drives within the extended partition. Relevance to us??? We have one HECK of a lot of migrators who like the GUI of Mandrake better than RedHat or others. Even Ranish Part does this, when you tell it you want a logical part it builds an extended shell for the logical, then builds the logical inside it. Diskdrake does not, and this is a migration issue not a pure Linux only issue-- but how many of us are discussing growth, the need for revenue, and the need to meet the needs of migrators to get more users??? Diskdrake offers a preference, and lists logical and primary. When I try to build a second part on a drive with one primary part, and the part name is one I type in, the following happens: 1. Part shows in display of parts as second part in line (fine, but I did not tell ti what kind, I let it default to whatever). I have told it type Ext3FS. 2. When I then tell it to format, it says you have to reboot before you can do this. 3. When it asks if you want the changes written to /etc/fstab, what will a newbie do??? Say ok, let it do that, probably-- nothing obvious tells him not to, he does not know the reason for or consequences of the failure to format. 4. Now, we have a problem-- the part table has a begin and end mark for an Ext type part (but everything I can use other than Diskdrake says it is actually a marked as type EXt2 in the part table itself on HD, not an Ext3 and /etc/fstab got written as if the part was there and valid as a type Ext3 as part 5(it assumed logical type, used part 5)). 5. So, newbie then gets out his faithful floppy bootable toolkit, the one he knows how to use-- the one that has DOS based Part tools in it. 6. He looks at his part, sees his tools not only think is wrong type, but that they will not format it, because no extended part table surrounds it. None of those tools have the ability to slightly relocate the existing part, encapsulate in an extended table, and make the table unnumbered, they all number it 5 in the master part table and do a chain pointer to begin of extended part table as begin of part 5 which to their eyes has no data except that table for logicals. So, he wipes it and reboots and runs into this catch 22 where fstab is now out if sync, or he creates the part in an extended as a logical and then the extended table start point ends up being primary 5 in the resulting part table, but Linux at boot is looking still for a data part in 5 because the fstab got written for a part that no longer exists. 7. Linux runs Ext2fs, Ext2fs fails because the extended part TABLE has no superblock and therefore it MUST be invalid. 8. Boot fails, newbie is caught in the catch 22 I proposed a document solution to get out of. 9. I, as a migrating newbie, lost about 300 hours of time (and about 5 GIG of data 6 times) figuring out what the heck was going on. I have been using compute
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake prob followed by maint session problem with solution
"John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Soemthing that just happened to me made me think that documenting a particular > recovery process would help many people: > > How to get your /etc/fstab file editted from a floppy boot when your > partitioning is set up to have a seperate /usr part: > > Go into maintenance shell, as the e2fsck fails due to it thinking from the > /etc/fstab that a partition is /dev/hda5 when it is /dev/hda6 (or some such > radically wrong number, part 5 should always be the extended part table). [...] > Just a thought, but could flesh out the procedure if wanted for newbie to know > how to edit /etc/fstab from what a floppy boot drops to when an unrecoverable > bad superblock error is triggered by diskdrake assigning /dev/hda5 to first > extended part and not allowing for the extended part table(and then erroring > as it is created, but still offering to write the /etc/fstab, which I did let > it do last night at 1 AM). diskdrake defaults optional things like > /cookermirror to extended\logical type, but fails to set up an exclusion of > part 5 for the extended part table and writes a /dev/hda5 entry in /etc/fstab > for the new part if it is the first logical created on a physical disk-- > sheesh. Then it decides the extended part table has a bad superblock because > is trying to use it as a partition that can be read to and written to directly. i'm missing something. what is this "part 5 being special"?
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake/DrakX feature request - acl option
Pixel wrote on Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 06:51:01PM +0200 : > > > >>I would like to see diskdrake and DrakX have another checkbox for > > >>acl support as an option for those filesystems that support acls > > >>(ext2/ext3/XFS). > > > please tell exactly what needs to be done, the fstab, examples... :) > > Add 'acl' (without the quotes) to the options field of the fstab (I don't > > think you need examples for this, if you *really* do, I can make one!). > ok, will be done IIRC, Stew also commented that there had to be an extra option for acls to work the way they were supposed to. Stew? Am I remember correctly? Blue skies..Todd -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk msg78504/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake/DrakX feature request - acl option
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pixel wrote: > > Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >>I would like to see diskdrake and DrakX have another checkbox for acl support > >>as an option for those filesystems that support acls (ext2/ext3/XFS). > >> > >>Stew commented to me privately that acls break LSB compliance, as does > >>noatime. So, since noatime is there already, either there is no reason not to > >>add acl, or something needs to be done (dialog informing the user that the > >>optoin breaks LSB-compliance) for both. > > please tell exactly what needs to be done, the fstab, examples... :) > > > Add 'acl' (without the quotes) to the options field of the fstab (I don't > think you need examples for this, if you *really* do, I can make one!). ok, will be done
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake/DrakX feature request - acl option
Pixel wrote: > Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>I would like to see diskdrake and DrakX have another checkbox for acl support >>as an option for those filesystems that support acls (ext2/ext3/XFS). >> >>Stew commented to me privately that acls break LSB compliance, as does >>noatime. So, since noatime is there already, either there is no reason not to >>add acl, or something needs to be done (dialog informing the user that the >>optoin breaks LSB-compliance) for both. > > > please tell exactly what needs to be done, the fstab, examples... :) Add 'acl' (without the quotes) to the options field of the fstab (I don't think you need examples for this, if you *really* do, I can make one!). -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake/DrakX feature request - acl option
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to see diskdrake and DrakX have another checkbox for acl support > as an option for those filesystems that support acls (ext2/ext3/XFS). > > Stew commented to me privately that acls break LSB compliance, as does > noatime. So, since noatime is there already, either there is no reason not to > add acl, or something needs to be done (dialog informing the user that the > optoin breaks LSB-compliance) for both. please tell exactly what needs to be done, the fstab, examples... :)
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake gets confused by SCSI-MO-Drive
Michael Riss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have the following devices attached to the SCSI-Bus:
>
> # cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
> Vendor: FUJITSU Model: M2513A Rev: 1500
> Type: Optical Device ANSI SCSI revision: 02
[...]
> Cooker-install: Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/detect_devices.pm
>
> Here I replaced in line 187
> } grep { $_->{raw_type} =~ /Direct-Access/ } @l;
> with
> } grep { $_->{raw_type} =~ /Direct-Access/ || $_->{raw_type} =~ /Optical
> Device/ } @l;
[...]
> Maybe the maintainer of diskdrake can have a look at it and include the
> changes ?
nice analysis of the pb, nice solution, adding it :)
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake text entry doesn't work.
J S wrote: > Hi, > > When I launch diskdrake from within KDE I can't use > the keyboard for text entry. I try to change the > mount point for a partition but clicking within the > text entry box doesn't have an effect. > > Anyone else see this behavior or know of a fix? You did press the "toggle to expert mode" button, did you? (you can only specify your own mount points in expert mode, for some reason). -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake text entry doesn't work.
Opps... =) I didn't realize that you had to click expert mode to be able to type in the mount point. Thanks for the pointers to searching the archives though. Jo. Hi, When I launch diskdrake from within KDE I can't use the keyboard for text entry. I try to change the mount point for a partition but clicking within the text entry box doesn't have an effect. Anyone else see this behavior or know of a fix? rpm -q drakxtools drakxtools-1.1.7-98mdk ps. Is there a way to search the cooker mail archives? I am using the entry page from mandrakelinux.com but I don't see one. Thanks, Jo. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com
RE: [Cooker] diskdrake text entry doesn't work.
> On July 3, 2002 00:31 am, Curtis H wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 22:35, J S wrote: > > > ps. Is there a way to search the cooker mail archives? > > > I am using the entry page from mandrakelinux.com but > > > I don't see one. > > > > Best way that I've found is to use google and enter > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with your search term. > > http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/ > or http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake text entry doesn't work.
On July 3, 2002 00:31 am, Curtis H wrote: > On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 22:35, J S wrote: > > ps. Is there a way to search the cooker mail archives? > > I am using the entry page from mandrakelinux.com but > > I don't see one. > > Best way that I've found is to use google and enter > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with your search term. http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/ -- Live fast, die young, you're sucking up my bandwidth. -- J.P. Pasnak, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca Kernel version: 2.4.18-19mdk Current Linux uptime: 0 hours 18 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake text entry doesn't work.
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 22:35, J S wrote: > ps. Is there a way to search the cooker mail archives? > I am using the entry page from mandrakelinux.com but > I don't see one. Best way that I've found is to use google and enter "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with your search term. -- /curtis ><> Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-20mdk Uptime 3 days 2 hours 27 minutes
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake proposition
Philippe Coulonges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /tmp is not a default option for a mount point in diskdrake. > > It could be a good idea to propose it. right, done :)
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake div/0 install failures in 8.2 gold
Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While still on the vg tab I clicked the 'clear all' button, which > cleared the references to the filesystems, and I returned to the first > tab to reallocate my disk properly. The LVM partition wouldn't remove. > This effectively prevents the install from continuing until the machine > is rebooted. workaround is to avoid "clear all". added to my todo list for 9.0 ... thanks.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake + removable detection pb + GUI issues
le lun 18-02-2002 à 21:50, Pixel a écrit : > Fabrice FACORAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 1°/ disdrake seems to parse incorrectly /etc/fstab : > > > > [root@bastard rpms]# grep cdrom /etc/fstab > > /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount > > dev=/dev/cdrom,fs=iso9660,ro,exec,--,nosuid,nodev 0 0 > > /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec,user 0 0 > > /dev/cdrom5 /mnt/cdrom3 iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec,user 0 0 > > /dev/cdrom7 /mnt/cdrom4 iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec,user 0 0 > > > > > > and diskdrake show incorrectly /mnt/cdrom3 and /mnt/cdrom4, it only show > > : > > Périphérique : scd0 > > Périphérique : scd2 > > > you're using "diskdrake --removable", is that it? > > there'll be a new drakxtools soon. Please tell me if it fix things. If it > doesn't, give me the fstab & /proc/scsi/scsi & /proc/ide/hd* > (and beware giving /proc/ide/hd* is not easy!) [will@bastard doc]$ rpm -q drakxtools drakxtools-1.1.7-79mdk the pb is not fixed. but in fact it was me the pb. my fstab was incorrect. with the correct value, everything is fine. Now there's too much information. what I means is that with default mcc windows, everything is not display, I have to resize the windows in order to see everything. very minor. But I've got my other reproducible pb and now I've got a new way to show it : when you are with removable device that show cdrom/floppy mountpoint, roll your wheeel mouse down ( at least 5 five ). Let finish select and hit cancel. Everything is fine. return to removable device, make the same thing and blow ! [root@bastard etc]# rc : /usr/share/mcc/default/gtkrc modprobe: Can't locate module floppy EMBED parent XID 85983794 mcc pid 11801 USR2 USR2 USR1 gdk_window_foreign_new failed at /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 317, line 3. -- http://linux-wizard.tuxfamily.org/index.html - Apprenez que tout flatteur Vit au depens de celui qui l'ecoute. -- Jean de La Fontaine, Le Corbeau et le Renard
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake with Mandrake theme (eazel)
le sam 23-02-2002 à 22:35, Pixel a écrit : > Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > When using eazel engine disk map in diskdrake does not look good. It is > > all in one color and only small borders around partitions have different > > colrs (according to partition type). > > > > Any chance to make them play more nicely together? > > hum, not much :-( So change default mdk theme. what's the interest to provide a theme that doesn't work right with ... the distro tools ! -- http://linux-wizard.tuxfamily.org/index.html - Moe:Wanna play poker tonight? Joe:I can't. It's the kids' night out. Moe:So? Joe:I gotta stay home with the nurse.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake with Mandrake theme (eazel)
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When using eazel engine disk map in diskdrake does not look good. It is > all in one color and only small borders around partitions have different > colrs (according to partition type). > > Any chance to make them play more nicely together? hum, not much :-(
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake and jfs
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! > > When creating a new partition, diskdrake allows to create the partition > as JFS, even if the jfsprogs are not installed. > > IMO, if jfsprogs are not installed and a JFS partition is to be created, > jfsprogs should be installed automatically (or even better: ask the user > if he wants to install the necessary tools. If he says no, ask if he > really wants to creat a partition of this type. If yes, go ahead and > let it silently fail. If no, cancel the action.) ok, i'll fix it.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake doesn't handle devfs style partitions correctly
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When creating a new partition with diskdrake, it rewrites /etc/fstab > (which is bad, btw). However, I just now ended up with something like > this: > > /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 swap swap defaults 0 0 > > Well, /dev/hda6 == /dev/ide > > This only happens for swap partitions. "Normal" partitions work fine. hum, i'll see...
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake mount option problem
Fabrice FACORAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > le mer 20-02-2002 à 10:36, Pixel a écrit : > > > you have to watch if you can see a cursor... sorry, no better way > > Is it a limitation of gtk_mdk ? gtk 1.2 ? does this pb is solved in gtk > 2 ? > Even in Motif we can disable input fields and greyed them ! greying the combo would not do it. there is - grayed combo => not pertinent - not editable entry in the combo - editable entry in the combo
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake mount option problem
le mer 20-02-2002 à 10:36, Pixel a écrit : > you have to watch if you can see a cursor... sorry, no better way Is it a limitation of gtk_mdk ? gtk 1.2 ? does this pb is solved in gtk 2 ? Even in Motif we can disable input fields and greyed them ! -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - Amants, heureux amants, voulez-vous voyager ? -- Jean de La Fontaine, Les Deux Pigeons
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake mount option problem
Fabrice FACORAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > le mer 20-02-2002 à 01:12, Pixel a écrit : > > "L.M. de Vries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Today's Cooker: > > > > > > - Start DiskDrake > > > - Unmount partition > > > - Unable to change mount path: the edit-box is not editable > > > > switch to expert mode > is there a way to grey/disable/change the color of disabled entry > fileds ? Most of the time we feel that we can edit them and ... finaly > ther's no way. people may think that it is a bug you have to watch if you can see a cursor... sorry, no better way
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake mount option problem
le mer 20-02-2002 à 01:12, Pixel a écrit : > "L.M. de Vries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Today's Cooker: > > > > - Start DiskDrake > > - Unmount partition > > - Unable to change mount path: the edit-box is not editable > > switch to expert mode is there a way to grey/disable/change the color of disabled entry fileds ? Most of the time we feel that we can edit them and ... finaly ther's no way. people may think that it is a bug -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - - Allo ! HotLine xyz ? - J'ai un PC avec Windows 95. - Oui et alors ? - Il ne marche pas ! - Oui vous me l'avez deja dit !
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake mount option problem
"L.M. de Vries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Today's Cooker: > > - Start DiskDrake > - Unmount partition > - Unable to change mount path: the edit-box is not editable switch to expert mode
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake comments
Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The application is comming along really nice I must say. > There is just one thing in the smb configuration tool > that I would like to have added. When chosing the mountpoint > there should be a browse button that opens up a window that lets you > select or create the directory for the mountpoint. > > This is a suggestion and i wish it to be added to the features > list. added the features wanted list
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake + removable detection pb + GUI issues
Fabrice FACORAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1°/ disdrake seems to parse incorrectly /etc/fstab : > > [root@bastard rpms]# grep cdrom /etc/fstab > /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount > dev=/dev/cdrom,fs=iso9660,ro,exec,--,nosuid,nodev 0 0 > /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec,user 0 0 > /dev/cdrom5 /mnt/cdrom3 iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec,user 0 0 > /dev/cdrom7 /mnt/cdrom4 iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec,user 0 0 > > > and diskdrake show incorrectly /mnt/cdrom3 and /mnt/cdrom4, it only show > : > Périphérique : scd0 > Périphérique : scd2 you're using "diskdrake --removable", is that it? there'll be a new drakxtools soon. Please tell me if it fix things. If it doesn't, give me the fstab & /proc/scsi/scsi & /proc/ide/hd* (and beware giving /proc/ide/hd* is not easy!)
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake suggestions
Thank you its really appreciated. /MattB On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 04:29, Pixel wrote: > Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I just tried it and it doesn't remove it. > > Even though, this is not clear for new users > > and i would suggest a "Remove Share' button that > > does this when a share has been highlighted. > > ok ok, i'll do it >
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake suggestions
Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just tried it and it doesn't remove it. > Even though, this is not clear for new users > and i would suggest a "Remove Share' button that > does this when a share has been highlighted. ok ok, i'll do it
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake suggestions
On 11 Feb 2002, Pixel wrote:
> Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 14:39, Pixel wrote:
> > > Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > When mounting SMB shares with diskdrake
> > > > there is no way to remove the smbshare
> > > > without physicly editing fstab.
> > >
> > > what do you mean, what do you do in the fstab?
> >
> > When adding a SMB entry with diskdrake it adds a
> >
> > //server/share /path/to/mount/point smbfs
> > user,password=mypassword,workgroup=MyWorkGroup,username=myusername
> >
> > to /etc/fstab
> >
> > And there is no selection in diskdrake to remove it.
>
> you should be able to remove it by selecting the "server" then the "share",
> then clicking on "Mount point". Giving an empty mount-point should remove the
> entry from fstab.
Is it possible to add "remove" button? ;-)
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Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake suggestions
I just tried it and it doesn't remove it. Even though, this is not clear for new users and i would suggest a "Remove Share' button that does this when a share has been highlighted. /MattB On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 16:55, Pixel wrote: > Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 14:39, Pixel wrote: > > > Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > When mounting SMB shares with diskdrake > > > > there is no way to remove the smbshare > > > > without physicly editing fstab. > > > > > > what do you mean, what do you do in the fstab? > > > > When adding a SMB entry with diskdrake it adds a > > > > //server/share /path/to/mount/point smbfs > > user,password=mypassword,workgroup=MyWorkGroup,username=myusername > > > > to /etc/fstab > > > > And there is no selection in diskdrake to remove it. > > you should be able to remove it by selecting the "server" then the "share", > then clicking on "Mount point". Giving an empty mount-point should remove the > entry from fstab. >
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
> Can you change partition types without affecting the > data? Can I change the order of the hard drives > without screwing things up in linux/windows? > Anyone with experience with getting their hard drive > info back to something PM6 can read? > I think you can do that with extend partions(i mean hda(1/4) not hda5+) But than again. If you fry your data i will laugh(hard) Changing the order. With fdisk in expert-mode you can change the order. But i never did that. Don't know how windows would react(but that would matter in your case) But for windows you have to atleast change fstab and probably lilo.conf too. PS. before you begin back up your data, maybe even your hole harddisk because this kind of thing always end in tears when you don't want to lose any data.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
--- andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > >Device BootStart EndBlocks > Id > > > > > > > > System > > > > > /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ > b > > > Win95 FAT32 > > > > > /dev/hda2 210 650 960 > 17 > > > Hidden HPFS/NTFS > > > > > /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ > 83 > > > Linux > > > > > /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040 > f > > > Win95 Ext'd (LBA) > > > > > /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ > 82 > > > Linux swap > > > > > /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ > 83 > > > Linux > > > > > /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ > 83 > > > Linux > > > > > /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ > 83 > > > Linux > > > > > > > > if Partition Magic doesn't handle such > classical > > > partition tables i don't know > > > > what to do... > > > > > > > It could be hda4 being typ f or that the > partions > > > are not in order. You > > > could change both of this facts with fdisk. But > then > > > why would you need > > > PM. > > > > > I am not real familiar with fdisk so I don't know > what > > you mean by type f or how to change the order... > but I > type f is a surtend type of extended partion. Me > think 5 is normally the > version windows uses. Can you change partition types without affecting the data? Can I change the order of the hard drives without screwing things up in linux/windows? Anyone with experience with getting their hard drive info back to something PM6 can read? > What i mean by changing the order is that hda6 is > after hda7 and hda8 on > the harddisk. > > You can all change that quite easy with fdisk. > > > mostly use PM for resizing partitions without > losing > > the info inside. > > > > > Why would you want to do that.:) > = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
> > > --- andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > >Device BootStart EndBlocks Id > > > > > > System > > > > /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ b > > Win95 FAT32 > > > > /dev/hda2 210 650 960 17 > > Hidden HPFS/NTFS > > > > /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ 83 > > Linux > > > > /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040f > > Win95 Ext'd (LBA) > > > > /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ 82 > > Linux swap > > > > /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ 83 > > Linux > > > > /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ 83 > > Linux > > > > /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ 83 > > Linux > > > > > > if Partition Magic doesn't handle such classical > > partition tables i don't know > > > what to do... > > > > > It could be hda4 being typ f or that the partions > > are not in order. You > > could change both of this facts with fdisk. But then > > why would you need > > PM. > > > I am not real familiar with fdisk so I don't know what > you mean by type f or how to change the order... but I type f is a surtend type of extended partion. Me think 5 is normally the version windows uses. What i mean by changing the order is that hda6 is after hda7 and hda8 on the harddisk. You can all change that quite easy with fdisk. > mostly use PM for resizing partitions without losing > the info inside. > > Why would you want to do that.:)
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
--- andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > [...] > > > > >Device BootStart EndBlocks Id > > > > System > > > /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ b > Win95 FAT32 > > > /dev/hda2 210 650 960 17 > Hidden HPFS/NTFS > > > /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ 83 > Linux > > > /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040f > Win95 Ext'd (LBA) > > > /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ 82 > Linux swap > > > /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ 83 > Linux > > > /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ 83 > Linux > > > /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ 83 > Linux > > > > if Partition Magic doesn't handle such classical > partition tables i don't know > > what to do... > > > It could be hda4 being typ f or that the partions > are not in order. You > could change both of this facts with fdisk. But then > why would you need > PM. > I am not real familiar with fdisk so I don't know what you mean by type f or how to change the order... but I mostly use PM for resizing partitions without losing the info inside. = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
I second that . . . I always use Partition Magic (PM6) to partition first, then use diskdrake to format during install. Now I get something strange - PM6 doesn't complain with the existing partition tables, but diskdrake does. "I can't read your partition table, it's too corrupted for me :( - I'll try to go on blanking bad partitions" here is my partition table from fdisk -l : omitting empty partition (5) Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2501 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 385 2501 17004771 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 1 384 3084448+ 1b Hidden Win95 FAT32 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 1277 2501 9839781 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order Disk /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3737 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 * 1 281 2257101 b Win95 FAT32 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 282 3737 27760320 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 282 728 3590496 b Win95 FAT32 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 729 1162 3486073+ 83 Linux /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 1163 1596 3486073+ 83 Linux /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 1597 1625232911 82 Linux swap /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 1626 2008 3076416 b Win95 FAT32 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 2009 2773 6144831 b Win95 FAT32 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 2774 3737 7743298+ b Win95 FAT32 Thanks, R. Fox On 06 Sep 2001 12:58:05 -0700, SI Reasoning wrote: > I generally partition with PM6 then install windows > then Linux. However, once the rpm was so broken in > cooker I had to upgrade through re-install and I had > to use diskdrake to re-create mount points as part of > the process (but I did not reformat or change anything > else I don't think). Since that time I cannot use PM6 > anymore. > > --- Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > [...] > > > > >Device BootStart EndBlocks Id > > > System > > > /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ b > > Win95 FAT32 > > > /dev/hda2 210 650 960 17 > > Hidden HPFS/NTFS > > > /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ 83 > > Linux > > > /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040f > > Win95 Ext'd (LBA) > > > /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ 82 > > Linux swap > > > /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ 83 > > Linux > > > /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ 83 > > Linux > > > /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ 83 > > Linux > > > > if Partition Magic doesn't handle such classical > > partition tables i don't know > > what to do... > > > > > = > SI Reasoning > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com >
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
> > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >Device BootStart EndBlocks Id > > System > > /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ b Win95 FAT32 > > /dev/hda2 210 650 960 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS > > /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ 83 Linux > > /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) > > /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ 82 Linux swap > > /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ 83 Linux > > /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ 83 Linux > > /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ 83 Linux > > if Partition Magic doesn't handle such classical partition tables i don't know > what to do... > It could be hda4 being typ f or that the partions are not in order. You could change both of this facts with fdisk. But then why would you need PM.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
I generally partition with PM6 then install windows then Linux. However, once the rpm was so broken in cooker I had to upgrade through re-install and I had to use diskdrake to re-create mount points as part of the process (but I did not reformat or change anything else I don't think). Since that time I cannot use PM6 anymore. --- Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >Device BootStart EndBlocks Id > > System > > /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ b > Win95 FAT32 > > /dev/hda2 210 650 960 17 > Hidden HPFS/NTFS > > /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ 83 > Linux > > /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040f > Win95 Ext'd (LBA) > > /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ 82 > Linux swap > > /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ 83 > Linux > > /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ 83 > Linux > > /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ 83 > Linux > > if Partition Magic doesn't handle such classical > partition tables i don't know > what to do... > = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >Device BootStart EndBlocks Id > System > /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ b Win95 FAT32 > /dev/hda2 210 650 960 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS > /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ 83 Linux if Partition Magic doesn't handle such classical partition tables i don't know what to do...
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
PM6 is Partition Magic 6. Good luck on the source! Will diskdrake allow for non-destructive partition changes/resizing? Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 1559 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 8 209 1527088+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda2 210 650 960 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda3 * 1 7 52888+ 83 Linux /dev/hda4 651 1559 6872040f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 651 693325048+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 1425 1559 1020568+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 694 1371 5125648+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8 1372 1424400648+ 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order --- Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I recently tried to use PM6 and I got an error > that my > > partition table was unreadable and it wouldn't let > me > > do anything.. I have had problems with this in the > > past when I have used diskdrake. Is there a way to > fix > > the partition table so that PM6 can read from it > > again? > > give the partition table (eg: output of "fdisk -l"), > and the source of PM6, > i'll send them a patch ;pp > = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I recently tried to use PM6 and I got an error that my > partition table was unreadable and it wouldn't let me > do anything.. I have had problems with this in the > past when I have used diskdrake. Is there a way to fix > the partition table so that PM6 can read from it > again? give the partition table (eg: output of "fdisk -l"), and the source of PM6, i'll send them a patch ;pp
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
SI Reasoning wrote: > I recently tried to use PM6 and I got an error that my > partition table was unreadable and it wouldn't let me > do anything.. I have had problems with this in the > past when I have used diskdrake. Is there a way to fix > the partition table so that PM6 can read from it > again? > Could you please chek the types of partitions? If you have 0x85 (Linux extended) there are good chances you had 0x05 (Extended) before and diskdrake changed it for you. PM does not understand 0x85. OTOH I do not get an error even in this case. -andrej > --- Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: >> >> >>>I always partition with Partition Magic (PM6) and >>> >>let diskdrake only format the partitions. >> >>>But this time I have a serious problem. >>> >>>During a new install, diskdrake does not recognize >>> >>the partition table properly and offers to "fix" it >>- >> >>>which I beleiev it will wipe out the patition >>> >>table. >> >>>When I say "no" to this offer, I notice that the >>> >>swap partition that I created originally in PM6 >> >>>is not recognized in diskdrake - in fact it shows >>> >>up as empty space. When I try to create the swap >> >>>partition under diskdrake, it complains and >>> >>creates an overlapping partition problem. >> >>>I am unable to install now. >>> >>>What has changed in diskdrake lately? >>> >>nothing that would cause this. >> >> > > = > SI Reasoning > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > >
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
I recently tried to use PM6 and I got an error that my partition table was unreadable and it wouldn't let me do anything.. I have had problems with this in the past when I have used diskdrake. Is there a way to fix the partition table so that PM6 can read from it again? --- Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: > > > I always partition with Partition Magic (PM6) and > let diskdrake only format the partitions. > > > > But this time I have a serious problem. > > > > During a new install, diskdrake does not recognize > the partition table properly and offers to "fix" it > - > > which I beleiev it will wipe out the patition > table. > > > > When I say "no" to this offer, I notice that the > swap partition that I created originally in PM6 > > is not recognized in diskdrake - in fact it shows > up as empty space. When I try to create the swap > > partition under diskdrake, it complains and > creates an overlapping partition problem. > > > > I am unable to install now. > > > > What has changed in diskdrake lately? > > nothing that would cause this. > = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problems on latest cooker (sept 4th)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes: > I always partition with Partition Magic (PM6) and let diskdrake only format the >partitions. > > But this time I have a serious problem. > > During a new install, diskdrake does not recognize the partition table properly and >offers to "fix" it - > which I beleiev it will wipe out the patition table. > > When I say "no" to this offer, I notice that the swap partition that I created >originally in PM6 > is not recognized in diskdrake - in fact it shows up as empty space. When I try to >create the swap > partition under diskdrake, it complains and creates an overlapping partition problem. > > I am unable to install now. > > What has changed in diskdrake lately? nothing that would cause this.
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake?
> "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I got the same error when installing both Beta1 and 2. > > Either as a clean install or as an upgrade. > > For whatever reason it seemed to be caused by the attached > > USB Zip 100 either with or without a disk inserted. > > If I unpluged the Zip prior to running the installation I no longer > > received the Unable to read partition message. > > should be fixed now. I tried unpluging everything (including the USB mouse...) Still get the same message. -Jason
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake?
"Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I got the same error when installing both Beta1 and 2. > Either as a clean install or as an upgrade. > For whatever reason it seemed to be caused by the attached > USB Zip 100 either with or without a disk inserted. > If I unpluged the Zip prior to running the installation I no longer > received the Unable to read partition message. should be fixed now.
RE: [Cooker] DiskDrake?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake? > > > "Jason Dyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On my notebook, I get the message "DiskDrake failed to read > correctly the > > partition table. Continue at your own risk!" (and then it > won't let me > > continue.) Under Alt-F3, it seems to be complaining that I > have more than one > > can you mail me the report.bug? > to get it: > > during install, switch to console 2, > put a fat floppy in floppy drive, > and type "bug" > > -> it will put report.bug on floppy and this file interests me > > > extended partition > (/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table.pm line 457.) This > > setup worked fine under MDK8.0 > > i don't believe it > > > (or perhaps the 8.0 install created the second > > primary partition...) > > neither do i believe this > I got the same error when installing both Beta1 and 2. Either as a clean install or as an upgrade. For whatever reason it seemed to be caused by the attached USB Zip 100 either with or without a disk inserted. If I unpluged the Zip prior to running the installation I no longer received the Unable to read partition message. Charles
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake?
"Jason Dyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On my notebook, I get the message "DiskDrake failed to read correctly the > partition table. Continue at your own risk!" (and then it won't let me > continue.) Under Alt-F3, it seems to be complaining that I have more than one can you mail me the report.bug? to get it: during install, switch to console 2, put a fat floppy in floppy drive, and type "bug" -> it will put report.bug on floppy and this file interests me > extended partition (/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table.pm line 457.) This > setup worked fine under MDK8.0 i don't believe it > (or perhaps the 8.0 install created the second > primary partition...) neither do i believe this
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake again trashed my partition table
"Andrej Borsenkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Besides, I do not know what you call "newbie mode". I started diskdrake, > went in hdb, clicked on expert mode, created new LVM partition and > exited. As a result I got unbootable system. > > You seem to miss the point. I do not say you should not use 0x85 > parition (or whatever). I say that you should not (must not, ought not) > change existing partitions unless user *explicitly* requested it. i've fixed some code that switched at diskdrake startup. I won't do it anymore if you create partitions in expert mode
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake - pecularities.
On Monday 03 September 2001 10:28, François Pons wrote: > Have you tried the other options ? LBA, LARGE, NORMAL ... No, I have not. > what gives "cat /proc/ide/hda/geometry" ? [guran@Archimedes guran]$ cat /proc/ide/hda/geometry physical 59560/16/63 logical 3737/255/63 >From this I have drawn the conclusion that the 'conversation' with the hard drive is 'clean'. But it is best to keep in mind that this is Mdk8.0 that was started on a box, with the Zip drive attached. There might be remnants left from the initial 'interference'. Thanks for your interest, but to day I will save my mirror on hdb, and clean hda to a fresh start. regards guran -- Mandrake 8.0 kernel-2.4.7-12.3
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake again trashed my partition table
Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > > I have hda and hdb. Windows (several versions) is on hda, Linux (several > versions) is on hdb in logical drives extended partition (type 0x5) - > hda5, hda7 etc with lilo on each partition. I use boot manager to boot > all windows and Linux systems. Boot manager does not recognize logical > drives inside 0x85 partition type and cannot boot from them. You might like to try XOSL (Extended Operating System Loader): http://www.xosl.org Absolutely free and works well on systems with one or two physical hard drives, NOT three! -- Ron. [au]
RE: [Cooker] diskdrake again trashed my partition table
> > [...] > > > In any case - why you decide for me what partition type should I use? > > And why you do it SILENTLY? Without even asking or at least informing > > me? > > it does it in beginner mode. How do you want me to inform a newbie that i > switched the extended partition type from 0x5 to 0x85? > Then do not do it. Simple. Besides, I do not know what you call "newbie mode". I started diskdrake, went in hdb, clicked on expert mode, created new LVM partition and exited. As a result I got unbootable system. You seem to miss the point. I do not say you should not use 0x85 parition (or whatever). I say that you should not (must not, ought not) change existing partitions unless user *explicitly* requested it. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake again trashed my partition table
"Andrej Borsenkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > In any case - why you decide for me what partition type should I use? > And why you do it SILENTLY? Without even asking or at least informing > me? it does it in beginner mode. How do you want me to inform a newbie that i switched the extended partition type from 0x5 to 0x85? > > > > > > > I can't even imagine user's reaction if this "feature" will be > included > > in > > > final release ... > > > > it is there since 7.2 > > Then it accounts for all those reports about "lost partitions" during > Mandrake installation. Yes, there were plenty of them in NG. known bug in 7.2 (see http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliumlast.php3) no pb with 8.0
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake - pecularities.
guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Hi, > I turned off the AUTO utility in BIOS and manually entered the relevant data > from the hard drive: CHS 16383/16/63. Which is supposed to mean no of > cylinders/heads/sectors per track. Have you tried the other options ? LBA, LARGE, NORMAL ... > I installed a Debian, which liked the partition table and gave CHS > 59560/16/63. > > >From dmesg in Mdk8.0 I have: CHS 59560/16/63 > > But here is probably the answer: > > [root@Archimedes guran]# fdisk -l /dev/hda what gives "cat /proc/ide/hda/geometry" ? François.
RE: [Cooker] diskdrake again trashed my partition table
> > > diskdrake again changed my partition from 0x5 into 0x85. This time I was > smart > > enough to check before reboot. > > > > I understand that you may not like Microsoft. But may I humbly ask to > express > > it differently? :-/ > > i don't remember what's the reason for Microsoft not liking this. can you > give > it again? > I have hda and hdb. Windows (several versions) is on hda, Linux (several versions) is on hdb in logical drives extended partition (type 0x5) - hda5, hda7 etc with lilo on each partition. I use boot manager to boot all windows and Linux systems. Boot manager does not recognize logical drives inside 0x85 partition type and cannot boot from them. In any case - why you decide for me what partition type should I use? And why you do it SILENTLY? Without even asking or at least informing me? > > > > I can't even imagine user's reaction if this "feature" will be included > in > > final release ... > > it is there since 7.2 Then it accounts for all those reports about "lost partitions" during Mandrake installation. Yes, there were plenty of them in NG. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake again trashed my partition table
Andrej Borsenkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > diskdrake again changed my partition from 0x5 into 0x85. This time I was smart > enough to check before reboot. > > I understand that you may not like Microsoft. But may I humbly ask to express > it differently? :-/ i don't remember what's the reason for Microsoft not liking this. can you give it again? > > I can't even imagine user's reaction if this "feature" will be included in > final release ... it is there since 7.2
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake - pecularities.
On Sunday 02 September 2001 19:18, guran wrote > When I try to do a new Install of Cooker I come to DiskDrake and then it > says that I may only continue on my own risk, because it is not secure > about the partition table. Hi I got past that stage, when I took away my old 100 MB Zip-drive, on which the parallell printer was daisy-chaimed. regards guran -- Mandrake 8.0 kernel-2.4.7-12.3
RE: [Cooker] diskdrake cannot embde
> > > [root@cooker root]# rpm -q drakcong drakxtools > > package drakcong is not installed > > drakconf :) > I like drakcong too. King Kong! > > drakxtools-1.1.7-9mdk > > [root@cooker root]# mcc > > Subroutine _ redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 266. > > Subroutine translate redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 271. > > Argument "default" isn't numeric in numeric ne (!=) at > > /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 77. > > Argument "default" isn't numeric in numeric ne (!=) at > > /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 77. > > XID : > > CCPID : > > modprobe: Can't locate module floppy > > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > Major opcode of failed request: 20 (X_GetProperty) > > Resource id in failed request: 0x1c000e2 > > Serial number of failed request: 1536 > > Current serial number in output stream: 1536 > > > > And after exiting diskdrake and mcc I have: > > > > root 1909 1875 0 12:20 pts/000:00:00 mcc > > root 1910 1909 0 12:20 pts/000:00:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -d > > 5,4,2 -w > > root 1911 1910 1 12:20 pts/000:00:02 /usr/bin/perl -w > > /usr/X11R6/bin/ > > root 1916 1911 3 12:22 pts/000:00:04 [diskdrake ] > > what window manager ? Ehh ... I run it via ssh-forwarded X11 from a system with CDE running, so whatever window manager is used by CDE. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake cannot embde
Le Mercredi 29 Août 2001 15:39, vous avez écrit : > > what window manager ? the same for me, I use xfce. I've report it in another mail. -- Copyleft Faber's prod. 2001 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake cannot embde
Same herein KDE Cheers, Atha On August 29, 2001 09:39 am, you wrote: > Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [root@cooker root]# rpm -q drakcong drakxtools > > package drakcong is not installed > > drakconf :) > > > drakxtools-1.1.7-9mdk > > [root@cooker root]# mcc > > Subroutine _ redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 266. > > Subroutine translate redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 271. > > Argument "default" isn't numeric in numeric ne (!=) at > > /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 77. > > Argument "default" isn't numeric in numeric ne (!=) at > > /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 77. > > XID : > > CCPID : > > modprobe: Can't locate module floppy > > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > Major opcode of failed request: 20 (X_GetProperty) > > Resource id in failed request: 0x1c000e2 > > Serial number of failed request: 1536 > > Current serial number in output stream: 1536 > > > > And after exiting diskdrake and mcc I have: > > > > root 1909 1875 0 12:20 pts/000:00:00 mcc > > root 1910 1909 0 12:20 pts/000:00:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -d > > 5,4,2 -w > > root 1911 1910 1 12:20 pts/000:00:02 /usr/bin/perl -w > > /usr/X11R6/bin/ > > root 1916 1911 3 12:22 pts/000:00:04 [diskdrake ] > > what window manager ?
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake cannot embde
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [root@cooker root]# rpm -q drakcong drakxtools > package drakcong is not installed drakconf :) > drakxtools-1.1.7-9mdk > [root@cooker root]# mcc > Subroutine _ redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 266. > Subroutine translate redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 271. > Argument "default" isn't numeric in numeric ne (!=) at > /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 77. > Argument "default" isn't numeric in numeric ne (!=) at > /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 77. > XID : > CCPID : > modprobe: Can't locate module floppy > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > Major opcode of failed request: 20 (X_GetProperty) > Resource id in failed request: 0x1c000e2 > Serial number of failed request: 1536 > Current serial number in output stream: 1536 > > And after exiting diskdrake and mcc I have: > > root 1909 1875 0 12:20 pts/000:00:00 mcc > root 1910 1909 0 12:20 pts/000:00:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -d > 5,4,2 -w > root 1911 1910 1 12:20 pts/000:00:02 /usr/bin/perl -w > /usr/X11R6/bin/ > root 1916 1911 3 12:22 pts/000:00:04 [diskdrake ] what window manager ? -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours !
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake - resize mounted partition
Pixel wrote: > Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>When I tried to resize partition that was mounted diskdrake did nothing >> > > how is it you were able to resize a mounted partition? I'm not able to > reproduce. It only proposes "Unmount" and "Use for loopback". > > It was a while back, so I guess it is fixed now. I am not able to reproduce it as well in freshly installed cooker. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake - silly question?
Mordechai Ovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 24 August 2001 01:39, Pixel wrote: > > Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Start diskdrake. *Immediately* exit it - and get the question 'do you > > > want to save fstab modifications?". > > > > > > WHAT modifications?!? I have not modified anything. > > > > hey, you want to fight? diskdrake is not meant to be used every minutes. I > > don't have an easy way to know wether anything has been modified. I could > > but would need adding a flag at each place a mount point, an option, the > > type... > > No you dont. You can globally store the original, and make all changes to a > "candidate config". On close, see if the candidate and original are the same > before asking to save. i could but it would catch the minor case where the candidate and the original are the same (due to format differences, ordering...). if you think that's useful, i'll put this.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake - silly question?
On Friday 24 August 2001 01:39, Pixel wrote: > Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Start diskdrake. *Immediately* exit it - and get the question 'do you > > want to save fstab modifications?". > > > > WHAT modifications?!? I have not modified anything. > > hey, you want to fight? diskdrake is not meant to be used every minutes. I > don't have an easy way to know wether anything has been modified. I could > but would need adding a flag at each place a mount point, an option, the > type... No you dont. You can globally store the original, and make all changes to a "candidate config". On close, see if the candidate and original are the same before asking to save. Mordy -- Mordy Ovits Give a man a fish, he owes you one fish. Network Security Teach a man to fish, and you give up Bloomberg L.P. your monopoly on fisheries.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake - silly question?
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Start diskdrake. *Immediately* exit it - and get the question 'do you > want to save fstab modifications?". > > WHAT modifications?!? I have not modified anything. hey, you want to fight? diskdrake is not meant to be used every minutes. I don't have an easy way to know wether anything has been modified. I could but would need adding a flag at each place a mount point, an option, the type...
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake always resets freq and fsckpass fields in /etc/fstab EVEN IF I DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Even if I just start diskdrake and immediately quit it, it rewrites > fstab! i added a dialog box asking wether to save or not > Even worse, it ignores fsckpass field. I have partition that is > used for testing and should not be automatically mounted or fscked on > startup (fsckpass in 0). ok, i now keep the freq&passno found in fstab
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake text mode - dangerous default selection in partition config
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When you select partition, the action selected is "Delete". It is way > too easy to accidentally press OK (I did it), it is not clear which item > is currently active. i've lower Delete, it should be better
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake???
On Tuesday 20 March 2001 17:18, you wrote: > Thank you for the info. Would it be acceptable to run the script on mdk7.2? > I have managed to get it installed on both of my computers (both of which > have had trouble with this). Since these versions have had problems, maybe > I need to run it on an earlier version? I certainly want to contribute what > I can (I am a programmer, but have no experience writing for the linux OS). > > Rich > That version would be fine as long as it stays up to see the vital points of your machine It is a simple script that dumps a couple of reports to a file--I mentioned it because it was handy--it was designed for the crashtesters who were installing 8.0 Betas dual-boot if they got into problems. If you really want to help--I'll be happy to have it as soon as we can get you installed--it definitely sounds like a kernel-vs-hardware problem. Civileme -- QA/Software testing
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake???
Thank you for the info. Would it be acceptable to run the script on mdk7.2? I have managed to get it installed on both of my computers (both of which have had trouble with this). Since these versions have had problems, maybe I need to run it on an earlier version? I certainly want to contribute what I can (I am a programmer, but have no experience writing for the linux OS). Rich - Original Message - From: Civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake??? > On Tuesday 20 March 2001 02:00, you wrote: > > On 19 Mar 2001 17:33:28 -0700, Rich Chase wrote: > > > While installing Linux-Mandrake (seems to be multigenerational bug -- > > > also in 7.2 versions), the program halts during package installation at > > > seemingly arbitrary points with complaint "no hdlists found". -- > > > Parenthetically, upon subsequent installation of RehHat, to salvage data > > > on the disk, I get errors indicating a corrupted partition table. > > > > > > Anybody else seeing this error? It has occurred for me with various > > > system architectures and Mandrake versions. > > > > > > Rich Chase > > > > I had some (actually a lot) of trouble with a corrupted partition table > > some time back. Believed to be atrributed to Diskdrake. Had some more > > recent trouble of the same sort though lesser. First incident was 7.2 > > and corrupted the whole darn thing beyond recovery. The second only > > hurt one of the ext2 partitions. > > > Both of you please get this script > http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~civileme/snapshot.sh > > and run it on any stable linux and send *snap to me as an attachment. > > Civileme > > > It is NOT DiskDrake It is a disk geometry recognition problem in the kernel. > Mostly with WD drives and certain VIA Chipsets. >
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake???
On Tuesday 20 March 2001 02:00, you wrote: > On 19 Mar 2001 17:33:28 -0700, Rich Chase wrote: > > While installing Linux-Mandrake (seems to be multigenerational bug -- > > also in 7.2 versions), the program halts during package installation at > > seemingly arbitrary points with complaint "no hdlists found". -- > > Parenthetically, upon subsequent installation of RehHat, to salvage data > > on the disk, I get errors indicating a corrupted partition table. > > > > Anybody else seeing this error? It has occurred for me with various > > system architectures and Mandrake versions. > > > > Rich Chase > > I had some (actually a lot) of trouble with a corrupted partition table > some time back. Believed to be atrributed to Diskdrake. Had some more > recent trouble of the same sort though lesser. First incident was 7.2 > and corrupted the whole darn thing beyond recovery. The second only > hurt one of the ext2 partitions. Both of you please get this script http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~civileme/snapshot.sh and run it on any stable linux and send *snap to me as an attachment. Civileme It is NOT DiskDrake It is a disk geometry recognition problem in the kernel. Mostly with WD drives and certain VIA Chipsets.
RE: [Cooker] DiskDrake???
disk drake ate hdc1, and during install it fails to recognise any partitions on hda when my dvd drive is pluged in. (but works fine post install!) > -Original Message- > From: Blue Lizard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 20 March 2001 1:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake??? > > > On 19 Mar 2001 17:33:28 -0700, Rich Chase wrote: > > While installing Linux-Mandrake (seems to be > multigenerational bug -- also > > in 7.2 versions), the program halts during package > installation at seemingly > > arbitrary points with complaint "no hdlists found". -- > Parenthetically, > > upon subsequent installation of RehHat, to salvage data on > the disk, I get > > errors indicating a corrupted partition table. > > > > Anybody else seeing this error? It has occurred for me with > various system > > architectures and Mandrake versions. > > > > Rich Chase > > > > > > I had some (actually a lot) of trouble with a corrupted > partition table > some time back. Believed to be atrributed to Diskdrake. Had > some more > recent trouble of the same sort though lesser. First incident was 7.2 > and corrupted the whole darn thing beyond recovery. The second only > hurt one of the ext2 partitions. > >
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake???
On 19 Mar 2001 17:33:28 -0700, Rich Chase wrote: > While installing Linux-Mandrake (seems to be multigenerational bug -- also > in 7.2 versions), the program halts during package installation at seemingly > arbitrary points with complaint "no hdlists found". -- Parenthetically, > upon subsequent installation of RehHat, to salvage data on the disk, I get > errors indicating a corrupted partition table. > > Anybody else seeing this error? It has occurred for me with various system > architectures and Mandrake versions. > > Rich Chase > > I had some (actually a lot) of trouble with a corrupted partition table some time back. Believed to be atrributed to Diskdrake. Had some more recent trouble of the same sort though lesser. First incident was 7.2 and corrupted the whole darn thing beyond recovery. The second only hurt one of the ext2 partitions.
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > > > > Can I make / a Software RAID'ed FS right while installing? > > > > > > > > yes > > > > i should have said "yes if you have a /boot" > > Ah, I see. So if grub/lilo is able to load the initrd, everything is fine, > yes? And for grub/lilo to be able to load the initrd, a /boot has to be > made, that's what you're saying? yes, i'm saying exactly this.
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
So sprach Pixel am Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 10:12:14PM +0100:
> Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > So sprach Pixel am Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:07:34AM +0100:
> > > mkinitrd is ok.
> > > The pb is to load the kernel and the initrd, lilo and grub don't like RAID.
> > >
> > > > Can I make / a Software RAID'ed FS right while installing?
> > >
> > > yes
>
> i should have said "yes if you have a /boot"
Ah, I see. So if grub/lilo is able to load the initrd, everything is fine,
yes? And for grub/lilo to be able to load the initrd, a /boot has to be
made, that's what you're saying?
> better explaination, the code :)
*G*
>
> die "raid / with no /boot" if $mntpoint eq "/" && isMDRAID($part) &&
>!has_mntpoint("/boot", $hds);
If I interprete that right, than the answer to my question above is "yes",
isn't it?
Please don't only answer with quoting the sentence right above saying "Yes"
*G* Say "yes, you are right", or "no, you are not right". 'coz only "yes"
could mean both *G* :)
Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So sprach Pixel am Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:07:34AM +0100:
> > mkinitrd is ok.
> > The pb is to load the kernel and the initrd, lilo and grub don't like RAID.
> >
> > > Can I make / a Software RAID'ed FS right while installing?
> >
> > yes
i should have said "yes if you have a /boot"
>
> Well, if it is not going to work to make a / as a Software RAID - why allow
> it in the first place?
better explaination, the code :)
die "raid / with no /boot" if $mntpoint eq "/" && isMDRAID($part) &&
!has_mntpoint("/boot", $hds);
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
So sprach Pixel am Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:07:34AM +0100: > mkinitrd is ok. > The pb is to load the kernel and the initrd, lilo and grub don't like RAID. > > > Can I make / a Software RAID'ed FS right while installing? > > yes Well, if it is not going to work to make a / as a Software RAID - why allow it in the first place? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 5 days 0 hours 36 minutes
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So sprach Pixel am Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:42:37AM +0100: > > /boot is still needed for software RAID > > Ah, is it? Why? Does the current mkinitrd not handle Software RAID? mkinitrd is ok. The pb is to load the kernel and the initrd, lilo and grub don't like RAID. > Can I make / a Software RAID'ed FS right while installing? yes
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
So sprach Pixel am Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:42:37AM +0100: > /boot is still needed for software RAID Ah, is it? Why? Does the current mkinitrd not handle Software RAID? Can I make / a Software RAID'ed FS right while installing? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 4 days 1 hour 54 minutes
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
So sprach John Allen am Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:06:05AM +: > I am not saying that it should be created, just that the dropdown > list no longer contains /boot. I still use a /boot partition, > I guess old habits just die hard. So do I :] I was plainly interested in what others think is the right way (tm) and why they think so. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 3 days 6 hours 14 minutes
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And also booting is possible from reiserfs, due to initrd - same for raid, > isn't it? /boot is still needed for software RAID
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
--- Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So sprach John Allen am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:16:44AM +: > > During installation there is no longer a /boot option in the mount > points > > drop down list. > > Hmm, when is a /boot actually needed? In former times it was needed > when / > was too big, and thus the kernel might end up after cylinder 1024. > Neither > grub nor lilo are affected by this anymore. > And also booting is possible from reiserfs, due to initrd - same for > raid, > isn't it? > > That's no flame, just plain interest: when should a /boot still be > created? Comes in handy if you want to plan on having multiple LM's on your system according to Civileme in mandrakeforum article " Two Mandrake versions on same machine?"; look for 'yes, there is a better way' near bottom of his post, if interested. Also, it's just nice knowing where all the images are and that the chance of corruption is lessened a bit. I get that warm fuzzy feeling since grub sits in there too... :) Regards, rj === > Alexander Skwar > -- > How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to > (english) > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de >iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen > Uptime: 2 days 1 hour 14 minutes > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 12:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install > > > So sprach John Allen am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:16:44AM +: > > During installation there is no longer a /boot option in > the mount points > > drop down list. > > Hmm, when is a /boot actually needed? In former times it was > needed when / > was too big, and thus the kernel might end up after cylinder > 1024. Neither > grub nor lilo are affected by this anymore. > And also booting is possible from reiserfs, due to initrd - > same for raid, > isn't it? > > That's no flame, just plain interest: when should a /boot > still be created? > I have a mutiboot system and use SystemCommander 2000 as my bootloader. SC does not recognize reiserfs partitions therefore it can not boot one. I overcome this problem by creating an ext2 /boot and using reiserfs for any other partitions I choose to employ. As to the original question though /boot is not on the drop down menu you can simply enter the designation manually if you wish to create such. Charles Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
I am not saying that it should be created, just that the dropdown list no longer contains /boot. I still use a /boot partition, I guess old habits just die hard. Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">So sprach John Allen am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:16:44AM +: During installation there is no longer a /boot option in the mount pointsdrop down list. Hmm, when is a /boot actually needed? In former times it was needed when /was too big, and thus the kernel might end up after cylinder 1024. Neithergrub nor lilo are affected by this anymore.And also booting is possible from reiserfs, due to initrd - same for raid,isn't it?That's no flame, just plain interest: when should a /boot still be created?Alexander Skwar -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Orbiscom Ltd,Web:http://www.orbiscom.com/ 3 Sandyford Park,Direct: +353-1-2178610 Sandyford Industrial Estate, Office: +353-86-2315986 Dublin 18. Fax:+353-1-2945119 ** The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. This message and any attachments have been scanned for viruses. Orbiscom Ltd. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. www.Orbiscom.com **
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
So sprach John Allen am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:16:44AM +: > During installation there is no longer a /boot option in the mount points > drop down list. Hmm, when is a /boot actually needed? In former times it was needed when / was too big, and thus the kernel might end up after cylinder 1024. Neither grub nor lilo are affected by this anymore. And also booting is possible from reiserfs, due to initrd - same for raid, isn't it? That's no flame, just plain interest: when should a /boot still be created? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 2 days 1 hour 14 minutes
Re: [Cooker] DiskDrake during install
John Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > During installation there is no longer a /boot option in the mount points > drop down list. fixed
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
A friend of mine had the same probl. A partition-table that linux fdisk (and linux!) reads fine is told to be defect/unreadable by the installation partitioning program. If he switched to the command-line and atempted to mount the partitions or use fdisk, it worked fine... -- MandrakeSoft http://mini.dhs.org/PGP%20Public%20key.asc">PGP Public key Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well that did it.. Can you fix that for users during install? ok, i'm going to release a patch that'll be available at mandrake.com/en/ulysseslast.php3 (not there yet) and a new ISO will be available when KDE2 is out with this fixed (along with ide-burners pb) [...] > > > Also console 3 shows: found empty partition table on /dev/hdd at sector 0 > > > Bad magic number /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31 > > > > solution: hexedit /dev/hdd and put FF at the beginning. > > (or any little random at the beginning you can think ok :) thanks, cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
I forgot to thank you. On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, you wrote: > Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Here you go.. /dev/hdd is the problem drive.. > > Also console 3 shows: found empty partition table on /dev/hdd at sector 0 > > Bad magic number /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31 > > solution: hexedit /dev/hdd and put FF at the beginning. > (or any little random at the beginning you can think ok :)
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
Well that did it.. Can you fix that for users during install? On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, you wrote: > Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Here you go.. /dev/hdd is the problem drive.. > > Also console 3 shows: found empty partition table on /dev/hdd at sector 0 > > Bad magic number /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31 > > solution: hexedit /dev/hdd and put FF at the beginning. > (or any little random at the beginning you can think ok :)
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here you go.. /dev/hdd is the problem drive.. > Also console 3 shows: found empty partition table on /dev/hdd at sector 0 > Bad magic number /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31 solution: hexedit /dev/hdd and put FF at the beginning. (or any little random at the beginning you can think ok :)
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
Here you go.. /dev/hdd is the problem drive.. Also console 3 shows: found empty partition table on /dev/hdd at sector 0 Bad magic number /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31 On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, you wrote: > Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The problem is drakx.. Fdisk reads the drive fine and the OS sees it > > fine after install. I can mount it without any problem but drakx still > > can't see > > wait, i think i've found. Do you have the 256 first bytes of your drive > blank? > > i made an error for the detection of empty partition having 256 instead of > 512 > > :-( > > can you mail me the report.bug? > to get it: > > switch to console 2 > put a fat floppy in floppy drive > and type "bug" > > -> it will put report.bug on floppy and this file interests me :) > > > thanks, cu Pixel. * lspci Intel Corporation|440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (unknown ignore) Intel Corporation|440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (unknown ignore) Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 ISA (unknown unknown) Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 IDE (STORAGE_IDE unknown) Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 USB (SERIAL_USB usb-uhci) Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (unknown unknown) Intel Corporation|82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (NETWORK_ETHERNET eepro100) SubVendor=0x8086 SubDevice=0x0009 Adaptec|AIC-7881U (STORAGE_SCSI aic7xxx) ATI|3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (DISPLAY_VGA Card:ATI Mach64) SubVendor=0x1002 SubDevice=0x0061 * pci_devices 808671900 f808 0008808671910 0038808671100 0039808671110 ffa1 003a808671120 ef81 003b808671130 008080861229b fc5ff008ef41feb0 fea0 00a0900481785 e801fe9ff000 fe9e 010010024742b fd00d801fe6ff000 fe6c * fdisk Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 1002 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 995 1018864 83 Linux /dev/sda2 996 1002 7168 82 Linux swap Disk /dev/sdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 529 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 529 4249161 83 Linux Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1247 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1247 10016496 83 Linux Disk /dev/hdb: 1 heads, 1316380 sectors, 1 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1316380 * 512 bytes Disk /dev/hdc: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 26354 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdc1 * 1 26280 13245088+ 83 Linux /dev/hdc2 26281 26354 37296 82 Linux swap Disk /dev/hdd: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 25228 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdd1 * 1 24380 12287488+ 83 Linux /dev/hdd2 24381 252284273925 Extended /dev/hdd5 24381 25228427360+ 82 Linux swap * scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00 Vendor: SONY Model: CD-R CDU920S Rev: 2.0b Type: WORM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00 Vendor: MICROP Model: 4110-09NB_Nov18F Rev: T
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
Ray wrote: > > The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228. > There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, > and could in certain setups cause problems with: > 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) > 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs >(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) See the conflict with your earlier statement: > This is a Quantum CR13.0A drive. 1528 cyl 255 heads 63 secs No disk can have two values for number of cylinders! It seems that this drive has never been set up with Logical Block Addressing (LBA). You need that with disks this large (over 1024 cylinders). The only way I know to set it up LBA on an existing used disk involves: Copying all partitions you want to save off to another drive Deleting ALL the partitions on this disk, primary, logical and extended. Reboot the machine intercepting the BIOS with DEL. Get the BIOS to redetect all the hard disks, taking care to set this one to LBA. The drive itself will now remember that it is LBA and always report 255 sectors and 63 heads from now on. Use your partitioning utility to set up 3 primary partitions of minimum size, unformatted. If you run Windows from this disk, make the first unformatted and big enough for that. Create an extended partition over the entire remainder of the disk. Copy back all the saved partitions. You will have to delete the new Windows partition to release the primary space for the Windows partition copy back. -- Regards, Ron. [AU]
Re: [Cooker] Diskdrake unable to detect IDE drive partitions
Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem is drakx.. Fdisk reads the drive fine and the OS sees it fine > after install. I can mount it without any problem but drakx still can't see wait, i think i've found. Do you have the 256 first bytes of your drive blank? i made an error for the detection of empty partition having 256 instead of 512 :-( can you mail me the report.bug? to get it: switch to console 2 put a fat floppy in floppy drive and type "bug" -> it will put report.bug on floppy and this file interests me :) thanks, cu Pixel.
