Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
Le Jeudi 19 Septembre 2002 19:13, John Allen a écrit : s wrote: On Wednesday 18 September 2002 01:55 pm, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 OK, added the mem=nopentium and all is well. If you haven't seen it yet try the kfiresaver3D from apps.kde.com, its magnificient. But nvidia 3123 are supposed to have a workaround for not using this command-line option, and as they precise, the problem should have been corrected in 2.4.19. Isn't it the case in the stock kernel ? Stef
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
s wrote: On Wednesday 18 September 2002 01:55 pm, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 OK, added the mem=nopentium and all is well. If you haven't seen it yet try the kfiresaver3D from apps.kde.com, its magnificient.
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
On Thursday 19 September 2002 6:13 pm, John Allen wrote: [snip] If you haven't seen it yet try the kfiresaver3D from apps.kde.com, its magnificient. Thanks - I'm one of the authors :-) Is there any chance of it being included in the distro (post 9.0, of course)? I think that eye-candy is one of Linux's weak points, and although it might seem insignificant to us developers, it is one of the things that discourages newbies from sticking with Linux. Also, it might be good word of mouth advertising: Joe: Cool! What screensaver is that? Bob: Dunno, but it came with Mandrake Linux! Joe: Wow! Where can I download it? Maybe... ;-) David Sansome
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 01:55 pm, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 Well, I know this doesn't specifically answer your question, but I'm running rc2 with all updates and currently on -12 kernel and my games play fine. I've played my quakes and uts yesterday just fine. I've even got sof2 demo and half-life (also both played yesterday) running under winex with knocks simulated woodgrain no problems. Using 3123 drivers rebuilt monday for -12. I submit this to say it might be machine/config specific - I just double-checked and I'm running with the option mem=nopentium for my athlon cpu. Mine games would crash/freeze with earlier kernels (didn't test this one) if I didn't use that option. So, if you have a k7, you might want to try that. I've also heard of mozilla crashing until that option was applied. hth, -s
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
s wrote: On Wednesday 18 September 2002 01:55 pm, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 Well, I know this doesn't specifically answer your question, but I'm running rc2 with all updates and currently on -12 kernel and my games play fine. I've played my quakes and uts yesterday just fine. I've even got sof2 demo and half-life (also both played yesterday) running under winex with knocks simulated woodgrain no problems. Using 3123 drivers rebuilt monday for -12. How did you build successfully? Which gcc version? I submit this to say it might be machine/config specific - I just double-checked and I'm running with the option mem=nopentium for my athlon cpu. Mine games would crash/freeze with earlier kernels (didn't test this one) if I didn't use that option. So, if you have a k7, you might want to try that. I've also heard of mozilla crashing until that option was applied. hth, -s . -- Sincerely, David Walluck [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg75577/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 Hi although I cant speak for the kernel (i'm using a stock 2.4.19) i can definitely rule out the nVidia drivers, i've not had a single crash with them, whether they've been compiled with the 3.2, 3.1 or 2.96 compilers. What card and chipset do you have? Mine is GeForce2 GTS on a Via KT333. It could also be related to the AGPGART module you're using, the nVidia drivers can use the AGPGART supplied with kernel or the nVidia one via an option in your XFree86 file (see their readme that comes with the drivers for exactly what this is) it might be worth trying that. failing that it could just be that you need a bios update, there's known bugs in via chipsets and AGP support for example. you could rule this out by trying the dreaded windows and some openGL/directX apps should you have it available. Cheers cris.
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 I would blame GCC 3.2 as well. Redhat 8.0 beta does the same thing. Due to the weird problems I have had, I am not moving to any distribution that uses GCC 3.2 until the bugs are worked out.
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 02:14 pm, David Walluck wrote: Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 no problems. Using 3123 drivers rebuilt monday for -12. How did you build successfully? Which gcc version? Well, I just untarred the nvidia tarballs and cd and typed: make. using gcc-3.2-1mdk. That was it. I've read of some folks who had to actually reboot this time. shrugs -s
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 05:56 am, alan wrote: I would blame GCC 3.2 as well. Redhat 8.0 beta does the same thing. Due to the weird problems I have had, I am not moving to any distribution that uses GCC 3.2 until the bugs are worked out. The newest drivers compile up for NULL, I tested them the night they were released. I suspect that's the reason for the new version. -s
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
s [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 18 September 2002 01:55 pm, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 Well, I know this doesn't specifically answer your question, but I'm running rc2 with all updates and currently on -12 kernel and my games play fine. I've played my quakes and uts yesterday just fine. I've even got sof2 demo and half-life (also both played yesterday) running under winex with knocks simulated woodgrain no problems. Using 3123 drivers rebuilt monday for -12. I've been playing WC3 under wine with the same setup (current cooker), no problems at all. I compiled the src.rpms from nvidia without a glitch. Vox -- Pain is the gift of the gods, and I'm the one they chose as their messenger For info on safety in the BDSM lifestyle http://www.the-vox.com Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr.
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 12:56, alan wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 I would blame GCC 3.2 as well. Redhat 8.0 beta does the same thing. Due to the weird problems I have had, I am not moving to any distribution that uses GCC 3.2 until the bugs are worked out. i have full cooker here ( synced today ) ,newest mdk-kernel, newest nvidia drivers, and quake3 plays fine .. i have mem=nopentium in lilo, and it really helps ( before that i had some crashes )... bye, gabor -- That's life for you, said McDunn. Someone always waiting for someone who never comes home. Always someone loving something more than that thing loves them. And after awhile you want to destroy whatever that thing is, so it can't hurt you no more. -- R. Bradbury, The Fog Horn
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 12:56, alan wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 I would blame GCC 3.2 as well. Redhat 8.0 beta does the same thing. Due to the weird problems I have had, I am not moving to any distribution that uses GCC 3.2 until the bugs are worked out. i have full cooker here ( synced today ) ,newest mdk-kernel, newest nvidia drivers, and quake3 plays fine .. i have mem=nopentium in lilo, and it really helps ( before that i had some crashes )... Oh! yes, I have the nopentium thing too...I added it long ago and never remember that you get crashes without it on athlon boxes. Vox -- Pain is the gift of the gods, and I'm the one they chose as their messenger For info on safety in the BDSM lifestyle http://www.the-vox.com Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr.
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, alan wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, John Allen wrote: Having tried both the NVIDIA 1.0 2960, and 3123 builds with MDK 9.0 RC3, OpenGL apps crash quite easily. The 2960 build is working fine on the same machine with the stock 8.2 kernel. So either their is a problem with the kernel, or gcc 3.2 when compiling NVIDIA drivers. Anybody got any ideas; I'd most likely blame gcc 3.2 I would blame GCC 3.2 as well. Redhat 8.0 beta does the same thing. Due to the weird problems I have had, I am not moving to any distribution that uses GCC 3.2 until the bugs are worked out. Maybe you should rather ensure that this isn't either a: 1)Hardware issue 2)need for an updated bios or something similar being exposed (but not caused) by gcc3.2 (like some of the bugs with ide chipsets exposed by the i586-compiled kernels, found by Mandake ...). I personally have 2 machines running cooker on NVidia cards (TNT2, GeForce2MX) with the NVidia binary drivers, and have tested on GeForce4Ti's at work, and have't seen one X crash since I started running cooker (soon after 8.2 release). I am sure there are a lot of other people who do too. All other problems have turned out to not be Mandrake bugs, but rather one of the two issues above. If you can give a meaningful bug report that can show otherwise, that would help, but otherwise please check that the issue isn't something else. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] NVIDIA driver with RC3
I also have a GeForce2MX and a TNT2, both running cooker, both with updated NVIDIA binaries (locally re-linked). And I run both machines pretty hard, and my girlfriend plays games all the time. Never had any problems with X. Austin On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 19:09, Buchan Milne wrote: I personally have 2 machines running cooker on NVidia cards (TNT2, GeForce2MX) with the NVidia binary drivers, and have tested on GeForce4Ti's at work, and have't seen one X crash since I started running cooker (soon after 8.2 release). I am sure there are a lot of other people who do too.
