Re: [Cooker] US under attack!!
Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: On Wednesday 12 September 2001 3:49 pm, you wrote: Robert L Martin wrote: And frankly, I don't think it would be a clean strike (as if there's something like this...) just against Bin Laden or the leaders of Afghanistan - would bombing the capitol of afaghanistan be considered a clean strike??? -- Robert LaurenceMartin Didn't W.Bush state that no distinctions would be made between those involved in the attack and those who harboured them? That sounds like Let's hope he meant military installations only. Like Qadaffi back in 1986... Michel Yeah but ... that didn't have much effect in the Gulf War. Sure it knocked them back to the stone age, but what we really need to do is get rid of their present leaders. *sighs* Mind you, if they're not adult enough to elect/support sensible leaders (as opposed to cheering in the streets when innocents die) perhaps we can't make that decision for them and it's best to just knock them back into the stone age. America doesn't seem to have had much success in liberating countries. -- Joal Heagney is: _ _ /\ _ __ __ _| | _ ___ | /__\|\ || ||__ |\ || |___|/_\|___] | /\ \_||__ ||___| \_|! | | \ \ !
Re: [Cooker] US under attack!!
So sprach »Robert L Martin« am 2001-09-11 um 19:14:04 -0400 : would bombing the capitol of afaghanistan be considered a clean strike??? If it hits just official targets - maybe. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 2 days 7 hours 19 minutes
Re: [Cooker] US under attack!!
---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: mardi 11 septembre 2001 16:39:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] US under attack!! Sorry for OT, but the US has been attacked!World Trade Center collapsed; Pentagon on fire.God save us before Bush's reaction :(Alexander Skwar-- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english)Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.deiso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommenUptime: 1 day 9 hours 24 minutes Alexander, It's awfull wat's happening in the US now An all those innocents poepel tath have benn killed !! I'm sorry for them and trist to know tath. I hope it won't be the beginning of a awfull war with the rest of arabish world sincerely François _IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
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Alexander Skwar wrote: God save us before Bush's reaction :( Alex, Bush isn't going to lash out at random over this - it will be investigated and a reasonably appropriate action will be taken. Bombing a major US city - with bombs or with hijacked planes - is an act of war, and not exactly something to be taken lightly. It warrants a serious reaction. In the mean time thousands of people are dead. I have friends who work in that neighborhood that i'm trying to find out if they're OK. Regards, Vinny
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So far most of the organizations that we'd think would do this have denied they had anything to do with it. The US is NOT going to randomly commit itself to war when it doesn't know who it is fighting. Most of the Arab world gets along OK with the US.. why would we want to fight them? Regards, Vinny
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So sprach »Vincent Meyer« am 2001-09-11 um 12:05:12 -0500 : So far most of the organizations that we'd think would do this have denied they had anything to do with it. The US is NOT going to randomly Uhm, in some respect I agree. But: Suppose Bin Laden would be guilty; this would mean that Afghanistan were guilty. Now - I do not believe they would agree that he did something like this, as this would give the US a perfect reason to hunt down and punish (to quote president Bush) Afghanistan. And frankly, I don't think it would be a clean strike (as if there's something like this...) just against Bin Laden or the leaders of Afghanistan. Let's just hope that you are right - I wish to believe that you are. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 1 day 12 hours 22 minutes
Re: [Cooker] US under attack!!
the beginning of much more to come. and be careful who you throw accusations at. some day you will find yourself unhappily surprised.
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Blue Lizard wrote: the beginning of much more to come. and be careful who you throw accusations at. some day you will find yourself unhappily surprised. I'm afraid you're right. May this day not be remembered as the first day of the 21th century... I want to live in a world of peace and brotherhood, and what happened... Violence is self-destruction. I'm shocked. Grégoire
RE: [Cooker] US under attack!!
Below are clips of both your emails on this subject ~ as an American, I'm offended at your callous remarks. I would not wish this on you, but try to imagine that you have friends and family in these areas and then respect the fact the we (Americans) have a president whom is going to do his best to find a solution to this act of war. Terrorism is something that affects everyone - not just the people who receive the bomb (or airplane). Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cooker-owner@linux- mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] US under attack!! Sorry for OT, but the US has been attacked! World Trade Center collapsed; Pentagon on fire. God save us before Bush's reaction :( Alexander Skwar -- So sprach Vincent Meyer am 2001-09-11 um 12:05:12 -0500 : So far most of the organizations that we'd think would do this have denied they had anything to do with it. The US is NOT going to randomly Uhm, in some respect I agree. But: Suppose Bin Laden would be guilty; this would mean that Afghanistan were guilty. Now - I do not believe they would agree that he did something like this, as this would give the US a perfect reason to hunt down and punish (to quote president Bush) Afghanistan. And frankly, I don't think it would be a clean strike (as if there's something like this...) just against Bin Laden or the leaders of Afghanistan. Let's just hope that you are right - I wish to believe that you are. Alexander Skwar --
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at the same time, those that foster or support, even take some satisfaction in today's events, should start hiding.. as the cowardly punk asshole bastards they are. k...whatever... I hear Kabul has some cruise missiles over it right now Allow me to clarify. The US is *_NOT_* retaliating against Afghanistan. This suspected ammo dump fire, sparked by possible...(as you seem to have made your educated guesses) may be the result of other groups. Keep in mind that Afghanistan is in a civil war of its own at the moment, and one group or another could have started it (the explosions outside of Kabul). Thank God we've got a Texan in the Whitehouse uh huh...right...Meaning no offense to GW, I would much prefer it to be his father right now. rest of y'all can go fsck yourselves consider it done... I should go get a 'guest list' from 7 WT.
Re: [Cooker] US under attack!!
And frankly, I don't think it would be a clean strike (as if there's something like this...) just against Bin Laden or the leaders of Afghanistan - would bombing the capitol of afaghanistan be considered a clean strike??? -- Robert LaurenceMartin
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Blue Lizard wrote: *snip* I don't know... but I think this is a development mailing list. Life is bad sometimes, but we don't have to bring the war here. So please, could we consider it classified and continue to keep this mailing list for development only? If you still wish to fight with each others, please do it in _PRIVATE_ mail. Thank you, Chris
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Christian Belisle wrote: Blue Lizard wrote: *snip* I don't know... but I think this is a development mailing list. Life is bad sometimes, but we don't have to bring the war here. So please, could we consider it classified and continue to keep this mailing list for development only? If you still wish to fight with each others, please do it in _PRIVATE_ mail. Thank you, Chris I agree that this kind of stuff is private and may be best to not be on the list. But it's a very serious issue for America, and possibly even the world. I don't know how you feel, but I certainly wouldn't want to come out of this sounding like I had an anti-American bent. -- Sincerely, David Walluck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I hope your country will never experience this Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Cooker] US under attack!! Sorry for OT, but the US has been attacked! World Trade Center collapsed; Pentagon on fire. God save us before Bush's reaction :( Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 1 day 9 hours 24 minutes
Re: [Cooker] US under attack!!
On Wednesday 12 September 2001 12:09 pm, you wrote: I hope your country will never experience this Tom Terrorism is, sadly, a matter of daily life in many not-so-fortunate countries. Where I come from, Indonesia, there are two active rebellions going on, political figures in one of the provinces rebelling (Aceh) have been assasinated - on one recent visit, our own President could not even stay the night due to security concerns. One other ex-province (East Timor) is slated to become independent next year after a campaign of terror tried unsuccessfully in 1999 to dissuade the people from voting for independence. This after 24 years of occupation (since 1975) and the slaughter of 200,000 people, roughly a quarter of the population. Including a massacre in 1991 of more than 100 refugees taking shelter in a church. And this even has relevance to the US : back in 1965 the CIA was actively involved in toppling then-President Soekarno, backing the rise of General Soeharto in a coup followed by a bloody purge of 500,000 socialists, suspected communist sympathizers and ethnic minorities. Kind of like Pinochet on a larger scale. SIS (the British foreign intelligence service) has declassified files acknowledging their involvements, the CIA has refused to do so, even reclassifying files that was published last month. I thoroughly sympathize with the plight of the Americans, and roundly condemn cowardly terrorist attacks throughout the world, but the adage does hold true: you reap what you sow. The US should wisely use its position as the sole global superpower to help the rest of the world, not antagonise them. In mourning, Michel Salim from Indonesia
