Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD with 9.2 plus LG-proof kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Warly
Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48, Pascal Terjan wrote:
>> Francisco Alcaraz wrote:

[...]

>
>>> Mandrake should be more carefull with this, shouldn't it?
>
>> I'm pretty sure the magazine didn't even bother to tell Mandrakesoft
>> they'll distibute the 9.2...
>
> OK... I'm planning to include a slightly-less-than-single-ISO version of 
> 9.2 plus the updates and an LG-proof kernel on the cover of an 
> Australian magazine. It will be aimed at a single purpose: installing a 
> secure, database-backed Mandrake Linux webserver/mailserver/gateway 
> machine for developers to use either for real or as a staging area or 
> an intranet server/testbed.
>
> What are the rules Mandrake would like me to follow?
>
> For example, if I include a PLF package or the NVidia/ATI drivers, what 
> must I change? The distro's name? Licence terms?
>
> What can I do with the advertising screens? Are Mandrake happy for me to 
> add extra images to the sequence, one to loudly remind the audience 
> that this is not an official Mandrake distribution - it's been built 
> for the magazine - one to advertise Linux contacts in Australia, and so 
> on?
>
> What else?

The main issue is "Would this be a good ad for Mandrakesoft?".

If you built bad quality bugged CDs with Mandrake name, the people will
say that mandrake is crap.

Maybe just add a notice that they are not official mandrake CDs.

-- 
Warly



Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD

2003-11-07 Thread Jaco Greeff
On Friday 07 November 2003 11:37, Buchan Milne wrote:
> (there have been some features and bugfixes in CVS, and we should
> probably get a new release out in a few days).

Indeed. 

Jaco




Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD

2003-11-07 Thread Buchan Milne
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Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>You might want to consider a live CD version ... (if it's prime
>>purpose isn't for installation, but more for demo).
>
>
> This one will be intended for installation.
>
> I am also considering a live CD as a later project, one with most of the
> above plus a web browser and the like, aimed at being a "plug this in
> and try it" template that developers can use to ship an active site
> (databases etc copied to a RAMdisk) to a customer.
>
> It would be even better with a script named "i_like_it" which installs
> to the running machine's hard disk if the end customer does in fact
> like it.
>

Patches are welcome (although I personally believe this is 2nd-rate and
potentially dangerous method of doing an installation since you don't
have much assurance about the binaries ...)

>
>>Well, if we get an answer on this, can we get it on the Wiki.
>
>
> Yes, please!
>
> A Knoppix-alike-Mandrake-HOWTO page would also be wonderful, if anyone
> reading this has ever made one.
>

# urpmi mklivecd

$ less /usr/share/doc/mklivecd*/FAQ

(there have been some features and bugfixes in CVS, and we should
probably get a new release out in a few days).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD

2003-11-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You might want to consider a live CD version ... (if it's prime
> purpose isn't for installation, but more for demo).

This one will be intended for installation.

I am also considering a live CD as a later project, one with most of the 
above plus a web browser and the like, aimed at being a "plug this in 
and try it" template that developers can use to ship an active site 
(databases etc copied to a RAMdisk) to a customer.

It would be even better with a script named "i_like_it" which installs 
to the running machine's hard disk if the end customer does in fact 
like it.

> Well, if we get an answer on this, can we get it on the Wiki.

Yes, please!

A Knoppix-alike-Mandrake-HOWTO page would also be wonderful, if anyone 
reading this has ever made one.

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD with 9.2 plus LG-proof kernel

2003-11-06 Thread bgmilne
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48, Pascal Terjan wrote:

>> I'm pretty sure the magazine didn't even bother to tell Mandrakesoft
>> they'll distibute the 9.2...
>
> OK... I'm planning to include a slightly-less-than-single-ISO version of
>  9.2 plus the updates and an LG-proof kernel on the cover of an
> Australian magazine. It will be aimed at a single purpose: installing a
> secure, database-backed Mandrake Linux webserver/mailserver/gateway
> machine for developers to use either for real or as a staging area or
> an intranet server/testbed.

You might want to consider a live CD version ... (if it's prime purpose
isn't for installation, but more for demo).

>
> What are the rules Mandrake would like me to follow?
>
> For example, if I include a PLF package or the NVidia/ATI drivers, what
> must I change? The distro's name? Licence terms?
>
> What can I do with the advertising screens? Are Mandrake happy for me to
>  add extra images to the sequence, one to loudly remind the audience
> that this is not an official Mandrake distribution - it's been built
> for the magazine - one to advertise Linux contacts in Australia, and so
> on?
>

You probably want to replace mandrake_theme at least. IMHO
bootsplash-themes should have subpackages, which preferably provide
mandrake_theme if they have the backgrounds and lilo splash screen.

> What else?

Well, if we get an answer on this, can we get it on the Wiki. This really
needs to be documented, considering Fedora is now a better option for this
(all RH artwork removed, all fedora artwork in fedora* packages)

Regards,
Buchan





Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD with 9.2 plus LG-proof kernel

2003-11-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> Francisco Alcaraz wrote:
>> I just have bought a linux magazine (Todo Linux) that comes with
>> the two first Mandrake 9.2 and, of course, with the old kernel.
>> Nothing in the magazine warn about the possible problem with LG
>> cdrom drivers.

>> It could be problematic have lot of people having their LG
>> cdrom-drivers broken. At least a note about the danger should be
>> put.

>> :-(

>> Mandrake should be more carefull with this, shouldn't it?

> I'm pretty sure the magazine didn't even bother to tell Mandrakesoft
> they'll distibute the 9.2...

OK... I'm planning to include a slightly-less-than-single-ISO version of 
9.2 plus the updates and an LG-proof kernel on the cover of an 
Australian magazine. It will be aimed at a single purpose: installing a 
secure, database-backed Mandrake Linux webserver/mailserver/gateway 
machine for developers to use either for real or as a staging area or 
an intranet server/testbed.

What are the rules Mandrake would like me to follow?

For example, if I include a PLF package or the NVidia/ATI drivers, what 
must I change? The distro's name? Licence terms?

What can I do with the advertising screens? Are Mandrake happy for me to 
add extra images to the sequence, one to loudly remind the audience 
that this is not an official Mandrake distribution - it's been built 
for the magazine - one to advertise Linux contacts in Australia, and so 
on?

What else?

Cheers; Leon