Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
On Wednesday 18 July 2001 06:01, you wrote: Juhan Leemet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...It's currently running RedHat 6.1 very nicely. I would like to... for my attempt at installing using hd.img, I get: install exited abnormally :-( (Alt-F2)DrakX v1.510 built Wed Apr 18 08:14:11 2001 Sound like 32Mb may be short a bit, can you try with another (smaller) kernel used by 8.0 (a 2.2 kernel). This could be a problem of ram with some other module loaded before. I'll see. Never done that before. BTW, I have another machine which was able to install 8.0, and it has only 32MB. Interestingly, it had problems installing XFree86 correctly, using a Cirrus Logic 5446 (?) video controller. I can check the model later tonight (late for a meeting now). It did update correctly, when I reinstalled 7.2 updated (instead of full install) to 8.0. -- Juhan Leemet Logicognosis, Inc.
Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm bringing up a question or two on this because although it's not the same problem, there are similarities. P200MMX, 3.3GB HDD, 160MB RAM, S3Virge 86c325 graphics card with 4MB video RAM. X cannot be installed in 8 at all, any version. Even doing an expert text install, along comes the graphical DrakX and the whole machine freezes solid. At least a graceful crash is preferable to having to hit reset and use fsck in the hope of being able to rescue your data. By doing an upgrade from 7.2 I can get a working X server, but I still have the freeze and rest, and then the manual fsck before I can get X working. When is this going to be fixed? I've used every version of Mandrake since 7.0 and the only one that would install a working X server without freezing was 7.2. Could somebody maybe compare the code and produce a patch? This isn't only an installation problem, after installation the only way to change anything that would normally use drakx is by editing the conf file by hand, because drakx freezes the system any time it is used. I think this is my 6th time of bringing this up on cooker. -- Anna What if you don't use framebuffer I tried that on the 2nd cooker before the release of 8.0. The odd thing is, I could install X in the first beta of 8.0, although with three overlapping images. Avoid framebuffer, that's an idea. I still have a noframebuffer lilo entry for an older kernel, I could try it on that and hope for a more graceful exit than a freeze if it doesn't work. I don't understand why I still get drakx in an expert text install though, surely that should be newt? -- Anna
Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
Thomas Spuhler wrote: I fully agree with you. I have the same problem, and it seems either nobody is interested to solve this old problem or there is no solution. The problem seems to be the S3Virge (86C325) Tom Agreed, that card has been a problem since I first started using Mandrake. It's a Mandrake problem, I've tried at least 6 distros and this is the only one with it, but I happen to prefer Mandrake to RH, Suse, TurboLinux... even three different Debian distros including pure Debian. It took up to 7.2 to fix it before, why let the same problem come up again, and how many releases before it's fixed? I'm tired of being unable to do a clean install and risking all my data on an upgrade even. Not that I don't have everything on my cooker partition backed up, but it is rather a pin repairing and restoring every time. That is a very common card, but maybe I should get an nVidea instead.. if a PCI version exists. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of L. A. Lawless Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX? François Pons wrote: Juhan Leemet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pentium. It's currently running RedHat 6.1 very nicely. I would like to move my machines to a common code base, and Mandrake looks like the best for me. However, I cannot install 8.0 into that machine. I've tried cdrom, network, hd images, but they all fail. Generally, it looks like everything goes OK until DrakX v1.510 built Wed Apr 18 08:14:11 2001 starts. It then hangs, and the logs don't say anything useful. The Alt-F1 screen just says install exited abnormally :-( followed by shutdown messages and then you may safely reboot your system. I have some of questions: What gives Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4 at least ? If I've specified a text install, why is DrakX (graphic install?) even being used? I would have thought it would use newt for i/o? Yes, it should use newt, press F1 on very first boot, then enter text and press ENTER key. François. I'm bringing up a question or two on this because although it's not the same problem, there are similarities. P200MMX, 3.3GB HDD, 160MB RAM, S3Virge 86c325 graphics card with 4MB video RAM. X cannot be installed in 8 at all, any version. Even doing an expert text install, along comes the graphical DrakX and the whole machine freezes solid. At least a graceful crash is preferable to having to hit reset and use fsck in the hope of being able to rescue your data. By doing an upgrade from 7.2 I can get a working X server, but I still have the freeze and rest, and then the manual fsck before I can get X working. When is this going to be fixed? I've used every version of Mandrake since 7.0 and the only one that would install a working X server without freezing was 7.2. Could somebody maybe compare the code and produce a patch? This isn't only an installation problem, after installation the only way to change anything that would normally use drakx is by editing the conf file by hand, because drakx freezes the system any time it is used. I think this is my 6th time of bringing this up on cooker. -- Anna
Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
François Pons wrote: L. A. Lawless [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm bringing up a question or two on this because although it's not the same problem, there are similarities. P200MMX, 3.3GB HDD, 160MB RAM, S3Virge 86c325 graphics card with 4MB video RAM. X cannot be installed in 8 at all, any version. Even doing an expert text install, along comes the graphical DrakX and the whole machine freezes solid. At least a graceful crash is preferable to having to hit reset and use fsck in the hope of being able to rescue your data. By doing an upgrade from 7.2 I can get a working X server, but I still have the freeze and rest, and then the manual fsck before I can get X working. When is this going to be fixed? I've used every version of Mandrake since 7.0 and the only one that would install a working X server without freezing was 7.2. Could somebody maybe compare the code and produce a patch? This isn't only an installation problem, after installation the only way to change anything that would normally use drakx is by editing the conf file by hand, because drakx freezes the system any time it is used. I think this is my 6th time of bringing this up on cooker. Have you tried with another kernel, I have ask with another contributor with this card and nothing was possible to do, this seems not ddcxinfos, this is not testing the card during install, it freeze as for pci probing or similar with sound strange. So can you try with a 2.2 kernel, as it was working on 7.2 (using a 2.2) ? I made test with ViRGE/DX or /GX and it work nicely, except that I disabled frame buffer once reboot. François. I've tried with three 2.2 kernels and three 2.4 kernels. I've tried XFree 3.3 and XFree 4. I've tried with different x servers pre-installed. Even if I don't use framebuffer on reboot, if I dare click on drakx in graphical mode everything freezes. If I try text mode, drakx is still called and everything freezes. And that still doesn't solve the problem of an aborted install and having to do a manual fsck to fix just about everything on my root partition after the freeze. I'm trying a text expert install tomorrow, specifying less system RAM, as that's just about the only other idea I have, although 160 MB should be enough. This seems to be a problem with the generic S3Virge chip only, particularly the 86c325. BTW it didn't work on 7.0 or 7.1, although I could write a config file on those using xf86config after recovering from the freeze. I got a sort-of X in the 1st 8.0 beta (2.4 kernel) as well, but it had three overlapping images on my monitor. At least that one didn't freeze everything during install so I could recover easily. -- Anna
Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
Juhan Leemet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...It's currently running RedHat 6.1 very nicely. I would like to move my machines to a common code base, and Mandrake looks like the best for me. However, I cannot install 8.0 into that machine What gives Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4 at least ? for my attempt at installing using hd.img, I get: (Alt-F1) ... install exited abnormally :-( sending termination signals...done sending kill signals...done unmounting file systems... /proc /tmp/hdimage you may safely reboot your system (Alt-F2)DrakX v1.510 built Wed Apr 18 08:14:11 2001 # (Alt-F3) ... * running: /usr/bin/insmod_ 2 /dev/tty5 -f /tmp/af_packet.o (Alt-F4) ... 6VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) 6SCSI subsystem driver revision 1.00 Sound like 32Mb may be short a bit, can you try with another (smaller) kernel used by 8.0 (a 2.2 kernel). This could be a problem of ram with some other module loaded before. François.
Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
François Pons wrote: Juhan Leemet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pentium. It's currently running RedHat 6.1 very nicely. I would like to move my machines to a common code base, and Mandrake looks like the best for me. However, I cannot install 8.0 into that machine. I've tried cdrom, network, hd images, but they all fail. Generally, it looks like everything goes OK until DrakX v1.510 built Wed Apr 18 08:14:11 2001 starts. It then hangs, and the logs don't say anything useful. The Alt-F1 screen just says install exited abnormally :-( followed by shutdown messages and then you may safely reboot your system. I have some of questions: What gives Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4 at least ? If I've specified a text install, why is DrakX (graphic install?) even being used? I would have thought it would use newt for i/o? Yes, it should use newt, press F1 on very first boot, then enter text and press ENTER key. François. I'm bringing up a question or two on this because although it's not the same problem, there are similarities. P200MMX, 3.3GB HDD, 160MB RAM, S3Virge 86c325 graphics card with 4MB video RAM. X cannot be installed in 8 at all, any version. Even doing an expert text install, along comes the graphical DrakX and the whole machine freezes solid. At least a graceful crash is preferable to having to hit reset and use fsck in the hope of being able to rescue your data. By doing an upgrade from 7.2 I can get a working X server, but I still have the freeze and rest, and then the manual fsck before I can get X working. When is this going to be fixed? I've used every version of Mandrake since 7.0 and the only one that would install a working X server without freezing was 7.2. Could somebody maybe compare the code and produce a patch? This isn't only an installation problem, after installation the only way to change anything that would normally use drakx is by editing the conf file by hand, because drakx freezes the system any time it is used. I think this is my 6th time of bringing this up on cooker. -- Anna
Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
I'm bringing up a question or two on this because although it's not the same problem, there are similarities. P200MMX, 3.3GB HDD, 160MB RAM, S3Virge 86c325 graphics card with 4MB video RAM. X cannot be installed in 8 at all, any version. Even doing an expert text install, along comes the graphical DrakX and the whole machine freezes solid. At least a graceful crash is preferable to having to hit reset and use fsck in the hope of being able to rescue your data. By doing an upgrade from 7.2 I can get a working X server, but I still have the freeze and rest, and then the manual fsck before I can get X working. When is this going to be fixed? I've used every version of Mandrake since 7.0 and the only one that would install a working X server without freezing was 7.2. Could somebody maybe compare the code and produce a patch? This isn't only an installation problem, after installation the only way to change anything that would normally use drakx is by editing the conf file by hand, because drakx freezes the system any time it is used. I think this is my 6th time of bringing this up on cooker. -- Anna What if you don't use framebuffer
Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
On Tuesday 17 July 2001 12:42, you wrote: Juhan Leemet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] ...I have a Compaq Prolinea 4/50s with PODP upgrade so it looks like a 83MHz Pentium... Is it a pentium or not ? what looks like means for you ? [juhan@compaq2 /]$ more /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 5 model : 3 model name : OverDrive PODP5V83 stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 83.524009 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no sep_bug : no f00f_bug: yes coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr cx8 bogomips: 33.28 (slow) Pentium, right? ...It's currently running RedHat 6.1 very nicely. I would like to move my machines to a common code base, and Mandrake looks like the best for me. However, I cannot install 8.0 into that machine What gives Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4 at least ? for my attempt at installing using hd.img, I get: (Alt-F1) ... install exited abnormally :-( sending termination signals...done sending kill signals...done unmounting file systems... /proc /tmp/hdimage you may safely reboot your system (Alt-F2)DrakX v1.510 built Wed Apr 18 08:14:11 2001 # (Alt-F3) ... * running: /usr/bin/insmod_ 2 /dev/tty5 -f /tmp/af_packet.o (Alt-F4) ... 6VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) 6SCSI subsystem driver revision 1.00 I guess I would prefer to do a network install. That's more or less the same output, except that it warns about mount being older than kernel (or something like that). What bothers me is that there are no error messages?!? It just says install exited abnormally :-( with no explanation. That could be improved, IMO. p.s. Dunno what it's doing with SCSI subsystem? No SCSI in that hardware, but I guess that is just a standard (install boot) configuration? If I've specified a text install, why is DrakX (graphic install?) even being used? I would have thought it would use newt for i/o? Yes, it should use newt, press F1 on very first boot, then enter text and press ENTER key. Did that, but it still comes up with the DrakX. Is that normal? Also tried text expert, asks more questions but ends up in the same problem state. Hmm, I wonder if the newt support is damaged somehow? I'm pretty sure I've used it on one of my other small (32MB) systems. I'll try it again, soon. If I'm doing a cdrom install, why does it apparently fail after trying to load af_packet.o? That's networking stuff... [snip] It is doing that all the time, but this should not hurt you computer, this is different from the device driver. Network install seems to produce normal logs, until it shuts down,... The last thing in the Alt-F3 log was the running ...af_packet.o before it shutdown. I was guessing that might be some attempt at an error message? How much memory do you have on this old computer ? 32MB, so a live install (cdrom, hd, nfs) should work according to the docs. -- Juhan Leemet Logicognosis, Inc.
RE: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX?
I fully agree with you. I have the same problem, and it seems either nobody is interested to solve this old problem or there is no solution. The problem seems to be the S3Virge (86C325) Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of L. A. Lawless Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Cooker] install problems with DrakX? François Pons wrote: Juhan Leemet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pentium. It's currently running RedHat 6.1 very nicely. I would like to move my machines to a common code base, and Mandrake looks like the best for me. However, I cannot install 8.0 into that machine. I've tried cdrom, network, hd images, but they all fail. Generally, it looks like everything goes OK until DrakX v1.510 built Wed Apr 18 08:14:11 2001 starts. It then hangs, and the logs don't say anything useful. The Alt-F1 screen just says install exited abnormally :-( followed by shutdown messages and then you may safely reboot your system. I have some of questions: What gives Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4 at least ? If I've specified a text install, why is DrakX (graphic install?) even being used? I would have thought it would use newt for i/o? Yes, it should use newt, press F1 on very first boot, then enter text and press ENTER key. François. I'm bringing up a question or two on this because although it's not the same problem, there are similarities. P200MMX, 3.3GB HDD, 160MB RAM, S3Virge 86c325 graphics card with 4MB video RAM. X cannot be installed in 8 at all, any version. Even doing an expert text install, along comes the graphical DrakX and the whole machine freezes solid. At least a graceful crash is preferable to having to hit reset and use fsck in the hope of being able to rescue your data. By doing an upgrade from 7.2 I can get a working X server, but I still have the freeze and rest, and then the manual fsck before I can get X working. When is this going to be fixed? I've used every version of Mandrake since 7.0 and the only one that would install a working X server without freezing was 7.2. Could somebody maybe compare the code and produce a patch? This isn't only an installation problem, after installation the only way to change anything that would normally use drakx is by editing the conf file by hand, because drakx freezes the system any time it is used. I think this is my 6th time of bringing this up on cooker. -- Anna
