Re: kernel install instructions needed
Tom, You didn't mention which hardware you are working with, but there is a good guide at powermaclinux.net: http://www.powermaclinux.net/plain_page.php?46 The first paragraph says that it is for iMacs but that the steps should be nearly the same for all newer Macs. Hope that is helpful. Darren Addy Web Specialist Information Technology Services University of Nebraska at Kearney
Re: [LONG] Full(er) install report on 8.2 beta
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Peter R. Wood (Lists) wrote: Greetings Cookers, Here is the longer installation report I promised. This is not intended to try and solve my problems; rather, it is for reference in the list archives and for information to the developers. I have not made any attempts to fix the problems I encountered (obviously I will do this later), I just wanted to write an objective report of my installation and first run. Installation System: Apple PowerBook G3 2000 (Pismo) Stock Config: 400 MHz G3, 10 gig hdd, 24x cd/dvd-rom, ATI Rage Mobility 128 w/16 megs vram Non-Stock Config: 320 megs ram, Apple Airport card Peripherals (some tested, some not): Microsoft Intellimouse Optical (4 buttons + scroll wheel, USB) (tested) Dazzle USB CF card reader (somewhat tested) Nikon Coolpix 775 direct USB connect (not tested) Handspring Visor USB sync (not tested, but it will probably work fine) HP DeskJet 940c USB (somewhat tested) CanoScan N650U USB scanner (not tested, probably won't work as it uses a proprietary interface, not SANE) iPod in firewire disk mode (not tested) Installed via: CD-ROM [burned with Roxio EasyCD Creator 5 under Windows XP, from 8.2 beta ISO's] Install method: install-aty128fb Notes on install process: Booted up by inserting Cooker CD 1 and holding down 'c' key. Booted up into install-chooser screen just fine. Chose install-aty128fb option. Then, chose CD install option. Install app loaded from CD ok. Graphics and video looked good - no video card problems using the aty128fb installer. Went with expert installation. Setup of peripherals went ok, except that the mouse config does not seem to acknowledge the scrolling of my scroll wheel. It does acknowledge the clicking of the scroll wheel, but not the scrolling. [Note: once system was up and running, scroll wheel worked fine under X] I think I've seen this reported on x86 too. Seemed the resonse was you need to keep rolling it a looong time? The package installation went fine. I chose the packages I wanted and they installed without problems, it prompted me properly for the second CD when needed. I periodically switched to VT3 to check on the installer progress, and saw no problems there. In the post-install config, most things went ok. The only thing that I noticed, and this is not so much a bug but an annoyance, is that I can't seem to *not* configure existing network interfaces. What I mean is this: I have an Airport card as well as built-in GMAC ethernet. I don't use the GMAC ethernet at all; I only use the airport. Both of them are properly detected, but when I go to configure LAN interfaces, there is no option to simply *not* use the GMAC. So I configure it with a dummy IP address. I would rather have an option to omit this device from configuration. Video configuration went great. My display was detected just fine and I chose X 4.2.0. Configuration of yaboot/ybin within the installer was extremely easy and painless. It let me set up my triple boot the way I wanted it, and I have had to make no changed to my yaboot.conf after configuring in the installer. Rebooting the system was the 'biggest' problem - the boot device was not properly set to the bootstrap partition. Maybe ybin could do this somehow within the installer? Luckily, Ben Reser had advised me on how to fix this. (Boot with Apple+Option+O+F; Type: setenv boot-device hd:n,\\:tbxi Where n is the partition number your boot strap is on.) With his fix, my system is now properly set up to bring up the bootloader. I think I've addressed this now. Notes on system startup: Did not boot into the Aurora graphical boot monitor. I seem to recall that this was the default in Mandrake 8.0, but it just did the regular text boot here. Maybe this is intended. It seems that various libraries were not found, and there were some errors in files: usb-ohci not found known usb-ohci is built into ppc kernel - Ben posted an initscripts fix cardmgr ./config-opts error on line 8 known error in pcmcia scripts YP map server: execvp: no such file httpd-perl httpd: couldn't find libmm.so.1 SMB NMB: couldn't find libacl.so.1 may bad - missing libs on CD's Notes on graphical login: The background on the graphical login screen looked good, however the login box itself did not look good. The buttons looked like normal GDK platinum, but the background of the login box seemed to be nonexistent. Instead, it was the checkerboard-grey of the default X server background. The user icons were displayed on top of it, and there was black text that was barely visible due to the grey background. It looks like perhaps it tried to load a pixmap for the login box, but was unsuccessful? After logging in and out several times, I got various results: sometimes the login box background was dark blue, sometimes, black, sometimes the text was clear, sometimes there was a moire effect. Errm.
Re: kernel install instructions needed
Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:14:31AM -0600, Tom Loscheider wrote: I have successfully built a kernel to try to solve a SCSI CD burner problem, but I have problems getting it to boot (no such file reported in open firmware boot). I think I am missing something in yaboot.conf or running ybin, but after 3 tries and hours reading man pages and searching for a how-to that makes sense... I need guidance. Can someone point me to some concise instructions or how-to for what steps are needed to install new kernel and configure yaboot? The man files, as usual, are way too vague. compile it, and install the proper files in /boot (you can see what you need from the mandrake kernels you already have). Copy one of the mandrake entries in /etc/yaboot.conf and edit it to have the proper image and initrd (if you need one). Run mkinitrd like so: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-kernelversion.img kernelversion /sbin/ybin -v And you should be set. However, if you're still having trouble send us your yaboot.conf and the contents of your /boot and maybe we can help... Thanks to all who replied! My machine is a G3/350 Blue White DVD rev-1. Do you run mkinitrd with all Macs or just with certain models? I missed the mkinitrd step. I had wondered where the other files in /boot came from, but had assumed they were created by some process at boot. It sounds like everything else is right. Thanks Tom L
Re: kernel install instructions needed
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Tom Loscheider wrote: I have successfully built a kernel to try to solve a SCSI CD burner problem, but I have problems getting it to boot (no such file reported in open firmware boot). I think I am missing something in yaboot.conf or running ybin, but after 3 tries and hours reading man pages and searching for a how-to that makes sense... I need guidance. Can someone point me to some concise instructions or how-to for what steps are needed to install new kernel and configure yaboot? The man files, as usual, are way too vague. I think I inadvertantly deleted one of the other responses to this thread expressing difficulty in building the kernel from source. There should be a default .config in /usr/src/linux, with the kernel-source RPM, that is the same as was used in the building the binary rpm (uP): cd /usr/src/linux make mrproper make menuconfig (do this even if you don't want to change anything or the 3rd party modules will choke the next step - just enter it and leave, saving the config - it shouldn't be this way, but is at the moment) make dep make vmlinux(these can be combined: make dep make vmlinux) make modules make modules_install installkernel vmlinux 2.4.18-5mdk vmlinux System.map Note: installkernel incorrectly sets up the yaboot entries if you have a seperate /boot. I've fixed this a couple of times, but my updates seem to keep getting undone. Other than that, installkernel will make the initrd, the yaboot entry and run vmlinux. For you OldWorld users, you need to do some manual steps to get the kernel/initrd over to the MacOS side for BootX. HTH, Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Cooker-PPC IRC: irc.openprojects.net/#cooker-ppc
Updating software via urpmi (WAS install report)
Is there any text-based way to automagically pull in new packages from the mirrors? I have somewhat answered my own question - I have found urpmi, and found out about urpmi.addmedia to let me add a source. But I'm not exactly sure what URL I need to put in. My guess is: urpmi.addmedia ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/coo ker/ppc/Mandrake/base/ with hdlist1.cz Does this look right? When I run it, I get some errors such as 'No such file 'descriptions''. And after the media is added, when I try to do 'urpmi evolution' it seems to try and download the dependencies, but in fact states that the files do not exist on the server. Does the problem perhaps lie in distro.ibiblio.org, or did I set up my media incorrectly? Peter
Re: Updating software via urpmi (WAS install report)
Ok, I have answered my own question again. Here is the command I used, this time building a successful media list: urpmi.addmedia --distrib ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/coo ker/ppc/Mandrake/ This automatically gets the hdlists, etc. Peter
Re: Updating software via urpmi (WAS install report)
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:52:02AM -0500, Peter R. Wood (Lists) wrote: Is there any text-based way to automagically pull in new packages from the mirrors? I have somewhat answered my own question - I have found urpmi, and found out about urpmi.addmedia to let me add a source. But I'm not exactly sure what URL I need to put in. My guess is: urpmi.addmedia ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/coo ker/ppc/Mandrake/base/ with hdlist1.cz Does this look right? When I run it, I get some errors such as 'No such file 'descriptions''. And after the media is added, when I try to do 'urpmi evolution' it seems to try and download the dependencies, but in fact states that the files do not exist on the server. Does the problem perhaps lie in distro.ibiblio.org, or did I set up my media incorrectly? I think you want: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/ However, urpmi probably isn't going to work. The hdlist1.cz isn't updated on the mirrors very often for ppc. I'm working on a solution to this in a couple ways. But it's not done yet. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: Creating Cooker PPC CDs
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: Hi Stew, Ben, everyone else :) Decided to make my own Mandrake CDs on the university server I have access to so I can install it at leisure on my laptop, and having never created my own Mandrake CDs before I want to make sure I'm not burning coasters :) Which script do I use - I see scripts under misc/ but not too sure whether they are up to date - I still see references to version 8.0 ?!!. Stew, if you could pray tell how you generate your CD images it'd be real nice :) mkcd.pl under misc. You need to update rpmslist under Mandrake/base, which is where I ended up dropping a lot of libs whose names had changed, by mistake. The 2nd CD is just a plain ISO. The first is a hybrid hfs/ISO, which the referenced script takes care of setting up. ./mkcd.pl .. /place-to-put-2-ISOs WARNING: Installer you're working with from mirror source is out of date. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Cooker-PPC IRC: irc.openprojects.net/#cooker-ppc
Re: Creating Cooker PPC CDs
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: Ah, no way to create 3 CDs then? :( Michel Sure, I forgot to mention hdlists: [stew@powerbook-cooker base]$ cat hdlists hdlist1.cz Mandrake/RPMS CD 1 Installation CD (Mandrake Cooker PPC 8.2Beta2) hdlist2.cz Mandrake/RPMS CD 2 Installation CD (Mandrake Cooker PPC 8.2Beta2) Add a third entry. You'll need to hack at the code a little too. Originally any files that weren't in rpmslist got thrown onto the 3rd CD. A 3rd CD is not an option, so I just discard them with a warning, so I know what's being excluded. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Cooker-PPC IRC: irc.openprojects.net/#cooker-ppc
Re: Creating Cooker PPC CDs
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 06:17:56PM +, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: Hi Stew, Ben, everyone else :) Decided to make my own Mandrake CDs on the university server I have access to so I can install it at leisure on my laptop, and having never created my own Mandrake CDs before I want to make sure I'm not burning coasters :) Which script do I use - I see scripts under misc/ but not too sure whether they are up to date - I still see references to version 8.0 ?!!. Stew, if you could pray tell how you generate your CD images it'd be real nice :) Thanks, Michel Salim Okay something is freaky I got the replies to this message way before I got the original... -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked ok, but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and prompts me to insert disc #2. Eventually, I gave up and clicked cancel. The installer continued and everything else seemed to go fine. I have a list of bugs/problems to report, but I'm hesitant to do so in detail, since some of them may be due to missing packages that should have been installed from the 2nd cd. Is there any way to 'force' it? Known problem/workaround? I'm very interested in getting some input in before the final version... it's the first distribution that I could actually use. We've had a few people mention the same issue, but I wasn't able to reproduce it here. There is a known issue on beta1 with mysql tying up the CD, with the %post script, and it's possible that has something to do with the problem. There have been a number of mentions of missing libs/packages, some due to my omitting them from the CD's, some due to the problem you mentioned. Several hundred apps have already been updated since that ISO was created, so in some respects it doesn't reflect the current state of the distribution very well. Go ahead and post what you find, it may have already been addressed, but you may hit something new that no-one else has seen yet. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Cooker-PPC IRC: irc.openprojects.net/#cooker-ppc
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
Le Mardi 12 Mars 2002 21:59, Ben Reser a écrit : On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:34:24PM -0800, Justin Christopher wrote: During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked ok, but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and prompts me to insert disc #2. Eventually, I gave up and clicked cancel. The installer continued and everything else seemed to go fine. You sure your burn was good? It's possible it was bad. Verify the md5sums with the ones on the mirrors against the ones for the ISOs and even the CD. Mine was good, and I had the same problem. (I've been installing missing packages since with this disc with urpmi, so I sure it's good) -- Jean-Christophe Jicé Cardot - http://lea-linux.org
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
Me too, I should have mentioned that I was able to install RPMs from disk #2 after the install, just that the installer choked on it. So the cd is definitely readable. --- Jean-Christophe Cardot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Mardi 12 Mars 2002 21:59, Ben Reser a écrit : On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:34:24PM -0800, Justin Christopher wrote: During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked ok, but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and prompts me to insert disc #2. Eventually, I gave up and clicked cancel. The installer continued and everything else seemed to go fine. You sure your burn was good? It's possible it was bad. Verify the md5sums with the ones on the mirrors against the ones for the ISOs and even the CD. Mine was good, and I had the same problem. (I've been installing missing packages since with this disc with urpmi, so I sure it's good) -- Jean-Christophe Jicé Cardot - http://lea-linux.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
