Re: MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 & ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Friday 07 February 2003 02:27 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> Any module need to access "/" needs to be loaded by an initrd.  Folks
> using bootX to load linux have this extra grief to deal with.  Since you
> are using ext3 on "/" and it's modular, you need the initrd I created in
> the BootX folder to be able to access and mount that partition as ext3.
> Same would apply for scsi or other journalled filesystems.  For the final,
> I'll try to have initrd's for all the journalled filesystems in that
> folder.

Yes and I know but some of us can simply not afford to have a mac that is new 
and shiny but yet we still like the little buggers. Untill the prices of the 
used hardware fall inline to what it is really worth I dare say I wont be 
owning a new world mac for quite a long time.

Anyway Stew thanks for your help with this stuff since I know the old world 
macs are not officially supported anyway.
>
>
> Stew Benedict

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Re: How to boot with bootx

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:

> On Friday 07 February 2003 01:21 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
> >
> > huh?
> >
> > [stew@powerbook stew]$ ls /mnt/cdrom/BootX/
> > initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext2  Mandrake_Linux_Install.sit
> > initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext3  vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk*
> >
> > Those initrd and vmlinuz are for the installed system.  The others are in
> > /boot.
> >
> > Stew Benedict
> 
> Yes indeed. Well hush my pupies. Sorry you would think I would have noticed 
> something like that. I was looking in the stupid bootx folder that was 
> extracted from the sit file. Thanks.
> 
> Just one thing. I tell it to use the initrd for the boot image which it does 
> boot from then it complains about needing to pass init= as an option. I'm 
> assuming it wants to see something like init=vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk. Is this 
> correct?
> 

BootX thing.  Once you select an initrd, then there is no "Root" option,
so you need to specify it in the kernel arguments:

root=/dev/sda7 devfs=mount

for instance.

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Re: MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 & ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Daniel R. Broemmelsiek wrote:

> On Friday 07 February 2003 04:24 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Daniel R. Broemmelsiek wrote:
> > > The kernel keeps mounting my ext3 file system as an ext2 file system on
> > > this Wallstreet.  Why?  Is there a particular kernel argument to pass
> > > from BootX?
> > >
> > > Dan
> >
> > Did you use the ext3 initrd? (BootX folder)
> >
> > Stew Benedict
> 
> When?  To run the installer I had to use vmlinux and all.gz during which I 
> just used existing partitions.  Any other combination I tried went into 
> kernel panic.  Install went fine so at reboot I point BootX to the 
> vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk kernel and my partition /dev/hda10 because that's where 
> it's going to find the loadable modules in /lib/modules/2.4.20-2mdk/.  So I'm 
> curious, when and where does the kernel want to see 
> initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext3?
> 
> By the way, kmail composer is doing funky black screen flashes while I'm 
> writing this.  The first annoying thing I've found.
> 

Any module need to access "/" needs to be loaded by an initrd.  Folks
using bootX to load linux have this extra grief to deal with.  Since you
are using ext3 on "/" and it's modular, you need the initrd I created in
the BootX folder to be able to access and mount that partition as ext3.
Same would apply for scsi or other journalled filesystems.  For the final,
I'll try to have initrd's for all the journalled filesystems in that
folder.


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Re: How to boot with bootx

2003-02-07 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Friday 07 February 2003 01:21 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> huh?
>
> [stew@powerbook stew]$ ls /mnt/cdrom/BootX/
> initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext2  Mandrake_Linux_Install.sit
> initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext3  vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk*
>
> Those initrd and vmlinuz are for the installed system.  The others are in
> /boot.
>
> Stew Benedict

Yes indeed. Well hush my pupies. Sorry you would think I would have noticed 
something like that. I was looking in the stupid bootx folder that was 
extracted from the sit file. Thanks.

Just one thing. I tell it to use the initrd for the boot image which it does 
boot from then it complains about needing to pass init= as an option. I'm 
assuming it wants to see something like init=vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk. Is this 
correct?

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Re: MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 & ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Daniel R. Broemmelsiek
On Friday 07 February 2003 04:24 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Daniel R. Broemmelsiek wrote:
> > The kernel keeps mounting my ext3 file system as an ext2 file system on
> > this Wallstreet.  Why?  Is there a particular kernel argument to pass
> > from BootX?
> >
> > Dan
>
> Did you use the ext3 initrd? (BootX folder)
>
> Stew Benedict

When?  To run the installer I had to use vmlinux and all.gz during which I 
just used existing partitions.  Any other combination I tried went into 
kernel panic.  Install went fine so at reboot I point BootX to the 
vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk kernel and my partition /dev/hda10 because that's where 
it's going to find the loadable modules in /lib/modules/2.4.20-2mdk/.  So I'm 
curious, when and where does the kernel want to see 
initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext3?

By the way, kmail composer is doing funky black screen flashes while I'm 
writing this.  The first annoying thing I've found.

Dan





Re: How to boot with bootx

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:

> On Friday 07 February 2003 12:41 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:
> > > Ok for the first time I was able to get this thing on my old 7300 with g3
> > > upgrade card. One thing I am curious about is how in the world do I
> > > actually boot to the os with bootx? All I can find are kernels for doing
> > > the install. What am I missing here?
> > > --
> >
> > BootX folder on CD1?  kernels and initrds should be in there.
> >
> > Stew Benedict
> 
> They are but only for booting the cdrom and not to get into the os once it's 
> installed. Unless I just don't understand something.
> 
> I did find on the cooker mirriors a directory under misc called bootx-kernels 
> or something like this but they are not on the cd's.
> 

huh?

[stew@powerbook stew]$ ls /mnt/cdrom/BootX/
initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext2  Mandrake_Linux_Install.sit
initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext3  vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk*

Those initrd and vmlinuz are for the installed system.  The others are in
/boot.

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Re: MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 & ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Daniel R. Broemmelsiek wrote:

> The kernel keeps mounting my ext3 file system as an ext2 file system on this 
> Wallstreet.  Why?  Is there a particular kernel argument to pass from BootX?
> 
> Dan
> 

Did you use the ext3 initrd? (BootX folder)

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MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 & ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Daniel R. Broemmelsiek
The kernel keeps mounting my ext3 file system as an ext2 file system on this 
Wallstreet.  Why?  Is there a particular kernel argument to pass from BootX?

Dan




Re: How to boot with bootx

2003-02-07 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Friday 07 February 2003 12:41 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:
> > Ok for the first time I was able to get this thing on my old 7300 with g3
> > upgrade card. One thing I am curious about is how in the world do I
> > actually boot to the os with bootx? All I can find are kernels for doing
> > the install. What am I missing here?
> > --
>
> BootX folder on CD1?  kernels and initrds should be in there.
>
> Stew Benedict

They are but only for booting the cdrom and not to get into the os once it's 
installed. Unless I just don't understand something.

I did find on the cooker mirriors a directory under misc called bootx-kernels 
or something like this but they are not on the cd's.

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Re: How to boot with bootx

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:

> Ok for the first time I was able to get this thing on my old 7300 with g3 
> upgrade card. One thing I am curious about is how in the world do I actually 
> boot to the os with bootx? All I can find are kernels for doing the install. 
> What am I missing here?
> -- 

BootX folder on CD1?  kernels and initrds should be in there.

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How to boot with bootx

2003-02-07 Thread Brook Humphrey
Ok for the first time I was able to get this thing on my old 7300 with g3 
upgrade card. One thing I am curious about is how in the world do I actually 
boot to the os with bootx? All I can find are kernels for doing the install. 
What am I missing here?
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Re: Mandrake PPC 9.1 Beta2

2003-02-07 Thread Thierry de Coulon
Well, lets compare with my (working) configuration on YDL. Could you try ot?

On Friday 07 February 2003 00:56, Adrian Rawlings wrote:
> Hi all... I have an ibook 2.2 (released in Nov 2002?)  With the beta2 it
> does a wonderful job autodetecting my ethernet port and my airport card. 
> Congrats! Now the bad news... still no sound and the video (with or without
> benh) still shows thin black scrolling horizontal lines in X.  If anyone
> has any ideas as to where I'm screwing up, or ? lemme know.  Thanks!
> XF86Config-4 sample:
>
>  Identifier "monitor1"
> VendorName "Apple"
> ModelName "iBook2 1024x768"
> HorizSync 28.0-49.0
> VertRefresh 43.0-72.0

I have:  HorizSync 31.5-57.0
   VertRefresh 50-70

> #later on
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "device1"
> VendorName "ATI"
> BoardName "ATI Radeon"
> Driver "radeon"
> BusID "PCI:0:16:0"
> Option "DPMS"
> Option "AGPMode" "true"
> EndSection

Here I have Driver "fbdev", as Stew pointed out this may be the central point

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Mandrake PPC 9.1 Beta2 on Wallstreet

2003-02-07 Thread Daniel R. Broemmelsiek
Woo hooo!!

I don't even know which X server is going, but KDE looks great and it's fast 
enough for the arcade games.  Sound "Dammit!!"  The only "scary" moment was 
the mouse, it didn't look right, but usb>1button>usbcore and magically the 3 
buttons are emulated, with tap on!  Thanks Stew.

Now, if I could just make POOF work on this Wallstreet!

cheers, Dan




Re: Mandrake PPC 9.1 Beta2 on Pismo

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Silvano Piazza wrote:

> Problems
> 
> Graphic enviroment is not working during install in any combination (2.2 
> 2.4 old or new gui): blue screen with freezed X-pointer.
> So Text installation, but in some steps is not possible to select 
> anything so only F12 to proceed.

Too bad.  There always are some difficult ones out there.  But X works on
the installed system?  Can you send me the XF86Config-4 that was setup?

Text install seems to have taken a step backwards from the code in 8.0.
I don't think there's much I'm going to be able to do about it.

> also TEST of Xserver failed (libc++ cant be found!) but after 
> reboot all was ok.

Odd, I don't know why a different lib would be required for you that
wasn't called when I did an install and tested X.  I don't even currently
have any libc++ installed on my running system.  Can you send me
ddebug.log under root's dir?

> Powerbook special keys  are  not  understood  so for instance sound 
> level cant be modify from the  keyboard.

Special software is required to enable this.  I believe Ben Reser has
something packaged up on his site. I'll see if I can get it into the final
ISOs, but I can't really add new software to main in the distribution. 

> By default only root can mount cdrom...not a good thing in a 
> easy-is-my-name distribution like Mandrake.
> 
> 

Supermount isn't enabled?  You shouldn't need to mount CD's at all.

> I would also ask you:
> why  qzerty powerbook  keyboard are never presents? or even Mac ones? in 
> my Linux experience only Debian recognises qzerty powerbook  keyboard 
> even in Italian (or other) languages. If would make the mapping could I 
> send it to anyone to be included in final release?
> 

If you have keymaps, certainly pass them on.  Personally I have no
experience with non-US keyboards, so I wouldn't know a good one from a bad
one.  By default we use linux keycodes, not mac ones, which enables the
drak and kde keyboard selectors to actually work.  I did add a large
nummber of mac keymaps, but you won;t see them available in those gui
tools,

> which is the best url for updated Cooker Mandrake rpms to use in 
> Software Sources Manager.
> 

People always ask me this, but I really have no idea.  I spend most of my
time trying to get the stuff built and uploaded, and don't really go
around chacking which mirrors are up to date etc.

> but after all I would to say that this beta is very good.
> thank you for all you have done, congratulations!
> 

Thanks :)

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Mandrake PPC 9.1 Beta2 on Pismo

2003-02-07 Thread Silvano Piazza
Hi now I am writing from Mozilla from Mandrake PPC 9.1 Beta2 on my 
Pismo, so it works!!

Good news:

Graphic enviroments are great and fast after installation.

All new Drak* software works well (local tcp printers are located better 
than MacOsX, network configurator setup my net in a snap)

Sound works perfectly!! (dmasound)

Problems

Graphic enviroment is not working during install in any combination (2.2 
2.4 old or new gui): blue screen with freezed X-pointer.
So Text installation, but in some steps is not possible to select 
anything so only F12 to proceed.
also TEST of Xserver failed (libc++ cant be found!) but after 
reboot all was ok.
Powerbook special keys  are  not  understood  so for instance sound 
level cant be modify from the  keyboard.
By default only root can mount cdrom...not a good thing in a 
easy-is-my-name distribution like Mandrake.


I would also ask you:
why  qzerty powerbook  keyboard are never presents? or even Mac ones? in 
my Linux experience only Debian recognises qzerty powerbook  keyboard 
even in Italian (or other) languages. If would make the mapping could I 
send it to anyone to be included in final release?

which is the best url for updated Cooker Mandrake rpms to use in 
Software Sources Manager.

but after all I would to say that this beta is very good.
thank you for all you have done, congratulations!

Silvano Piazza