Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-03-01 Thread rshade
> BTW, in theory you should be able to manually boot the system the same
> way you did the CD from OF.  If you make the change in ofboot.b on your
> bootstrap, yaboot may even work.  Or urpmi the new yaboot once youve
> booted.

Yay!  I booted!  This message is brought to you by konqueror on Mandrake
9.1 PPC. :)

Even though I installed using the benh kernel, the installer decided to
only put the regular kernel on.  I had to do some fancy footwork in the
rescue CD to install/setup the benh kernel.

For some reason the network config doesn't find pppd because the PPPD
entry in /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf was set to NOTFOUND.  All I had to do is
change that to /usr/sbin/pppd and it connected (obviously :) ).  I did not
come across the same error in the network config that I did in the
installer.

Modifying the one line in ofboot.b does not make it work.  I still have to
go to OF to boot.  I'm going to try installing the new package though.

Everything seems to work great.  Although I can't get the mandrake control
center to start.  Maybe it's a knowm issue that was fixed later. 
Truthfully, I hardly ever use it anyway.

Thanks for your help.  I'll keep you updated on anything i find.

rob





Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-03-01 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > BTW, in theory you should be able to manually boot the system the same
> > way you did the CD from OF.  If you make the change in ofboot.b on your
> > bootstrap, yaboot may even work.  Or urpmi the new yaboot once youve
> > booted.
> 
> Yay!  I booted!  This message is brought to you by konqueror on Mandrake
> 9.1 PPC. :)
> 
> Even though I installed using the benh kernel, the installer decided to
> only put the regular kernel on.  I had to do some fancy footwork in the
> rescue CD to install/setup the benh kernel.
> 

Been thinking about that. I need to check the running kernel during the
install and substitute installing benh for mdk if you booted benh to
install.

> For some reason the network config doesn't find pppd because the PPPD
> entry in /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf was set to NOTFOUND.  All I had to do is
> change that to /usr/sbin/pppd and it connected (obviously :) ).  I did not
> come across the same error in the network config that I did in the
> installer.
> 

Odd, but glad it worked.  Now that I think of it, you drak tools on the
installed system will be much newer than that 9.0 based installer.

> Modifying the one line in ofboot.b does not make it work.  I still have to
> go to OF to boot.  I'm going to try installing the new package though.
> 
> Everything seems to work great.  Although I can't get the mandrake control
> center to start.  Maybe it's a knowm issue that was fixed later. 
> Truthfully, I hardly ever use it anyway.
> 

I forget now what the deal was with it on beta2, you could try urpmi'ing
the latest stuff, it seems to be working now.

> Thanks for your help.  I'll keep you updated on anything i find.
> 
> rob
> 
> 
> 

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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-03-01 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The new yaboot works correctly.  No more vulcan nerve pinch to start up. :)
> 
> rob
> 

Great news!  

I also did a full GUI install to an RS6000 last night. Just need to tweak
the bootstrap setup this machine needs.

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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-03-01 Thread rshade
The new yaboot works correctly.  No more vulcan nerve pinch to start up. :)

rob





Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-28 Thread Stew Benedict

I guess I see the problem now.  There is no PCI device entry with the
video card.  I'm not sure in that case how the installer is identifying
it.

BTW, in theory you should be able to manually boot the system the same way
you did the CD from OF.  If you make the change in ofboot.b on your
bootstrap, yaboot may even work.  Or urpmi the new yaboot once youve
booted.


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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-28 Thread Robert Shade
yes, the portion for the video adapter.
lspcidrake -v

unknown : unknown (106b/0034//)
unknown : unknown (10de/0179/de10/1000)
unknown : unknown (106b/0035//)
unknown : unknown (106b/003e//)
unknown : unknown (106b/003f//)
unknown : unknown (106b/003f//)
unknown : unknown (106b/003f//)
unknown : unknown (106b/0036//)
unknown : unknown (106b/003b//)
unknown : unknown (106b/0031/6b10/1158)
unknown : unknown (106b/0032//)
---

cat /proc/bus/pci/devices

0058 106b0034 0       0
000       
0080 10de0179 30 9100 9408 f108    9
000 0100 0400 0008    0002
1058 106b0035 0       0
000       
10b8 106b003e 0 8000      0
000 0008      
10c0 106b003f 1b 80082000      0
000 0100       usb-ohci
10c8 106b003f 1c 80081000      0
000 0100       usb-ohci
10d0 106b003f 1d 8008      0
000 0100       usb-ohci
2058 106b0036 0       0
000       
2068 106b003b 27 f5004000      0
000 4000      
2070 106b0031 28 f5008000      0
000 1000      
2078 106b0032 29 f520      f
510 0020      0010
---

cat /proc/pci

PCI devices found:
  Bus 0, device 11, function 0:
   Host bridge: PCI device 106b:0034 (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
Master Capable. Latency=16.
  Bus 0, device 16, function 0:
  VGA Compatable controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go 64M] (rev 
163).
IRQ 48.
Master Capable.  Latency=248.  Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x900 [0x91ff].
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x9400 [0x97ff].
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf100 [0xf107].
  Bus 16, device 11, function 0:
   Host bridge: PCI device 106b:0035 (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
Master Capable. Latency=16.
  Bus 16, device 23, function 0:
   Class ff00: PCI device 106b:003e (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
Master Capable. Latency=16.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x8000 [0x8007].
  Bus 16, device 24, function 0:
   USB Controller: PCI device 106b:003f (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
IRQ 27.
Master Capable. Latency=16. Min Gnt=3.Max Lat=86.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x80082000 [0x80082fff].
  Bus 16, device 25, function 0:
   USB Controller: PCI device 106b:003f (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
IRQ 28.
Master Capable. Latency=16. Min Gnt=3.Max Lat=86.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x80081000 [0x80081fff].
  Bus 16, device 26, function 0:
   USB Controller: PCI device 106b:003f (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
IRQ 29.
Master Capable. Latency=16. Min Gnt=3.Max Lat=86.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x8008 [0x8008].
  Bus 32, device 11, function 0:
   Host Bridge: PCI device 106b:0036 (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
Master Capable. Latency=16.
  Bus 32, device 13, function 0:
   Class ff00: PCI device 106b:003b (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 0).
IRQ 39.
Master Capable. Latency=32.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf5004000 [0xf5007fff].
  Bus 32, device 14, function 0:
   Firewire (IEEE 1394): PCI device 106b:0031 (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 129).
IRQ 40.
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=24.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf500 [0xf5000fff].
  Bus 32, device 15, function 0:
   Class : PCI device 106b:0032 (Apple Computer Inc.) (rev 255).
IRQ 41.
Master Capable. Latency=255. Min Gnt=255.Max Lat=255.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf520 [0xf53f].

---

cat /proc/cpuinfo

cpu : 7455, altivec supported
clock : 533HHz
revision : 3.3 (pvr 8001 0303)
bogomips : 519.37
machine : Powerbook6,1
motherboard : Powerbook6,1 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
detected as : 95 (Unknown Keylargo-based)
pmac flags : 
L2 cache : 256K unified
memory : 256 MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld
Sorry about the length, but I figured I'd give you all the hardware in

Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-28 Thread Stew Benedict

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  > (lspcidrake -v)
> 
> All i get when i run that is a bunch of unidentified entries. (nothing is
> identified)
> 

That's OK - I need to map what the thing really is, and the driver to use
with the 2, 4 digit hex IDs.  That's how the drak tools decide what driver
to use.  Once those entries get into ldetect-lst, then it should be
identified and and the card would be setup correctly.

> > Looks like that comes from /proc/bus/pci/devices
> 
> Should I send the output of this?
> 

yes, the portion for the video adapter.

> > you mentioned before - > > anything at the tail end of the log?
> 
> No.  The only thing at the end of the log is that it completed the user
> setup section.
> 

Oops, didn't mean to ask that again.

> > Oh, that's nasty. I believe that's coming from the kernel.  Sounds like
> > the installer poked into somewhere it shouldn't have :(
> 
> Oh.  Is there some kind of verbose debugging I can turn on for the
> installer?  Maybe I can find out what it's trying to do.  (Since no one
> else seems to have this hardware)
> 

I wish.  When I've hit this type of stuff I've had to go into the
installer code and add log::l("I'm at this subroutine") type things to try
and narrow down where things are going astray.  Little hard for you if
you're using a CD.  There are a number of hardware probes I've already
disabled, that kill the old machines.  It might be doing a USB probe,
which is already in the PPC kernel. I've wrapped that probe in a

if OldWorld {
probeusb.
}

Because those machines definitely don't like it.

If you're able to boot the system, the same code is in drakconnect, so you
might be able to debug it from there.

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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-27 Thread rshade
 > (lspcidrake -v)

All i get when i run that is a bunch of unidentified entries. (nothing is
identified)

> Looks like that comes from /proc/bus/pci/devices

Should I send the output of this?

> you mentioned before - > > anything at the tail end of the log?

No.  The only thing at the end of the log is that it completed the user
setup section.

> Oh, that's nasty. I believe that's coming from the kernel.  Sounds like
> the installer poked into somewhere it shouldn't have :(

Oh.  Is there some kind of verbose debugging I can turn on for the
installer?  Maybe I can find out what it's trying to do.  (Since no one
else seems to have this hardware)

rob





Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-27 Thread Stew Benedict

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Shade wrote:

> > Mostly I'm interested in the video card line.  Sounds like ldetect-lst has
> > a bad entry for it.
> 
> (From /proc/pci)
> 
> Bus  0, device 16, function   0:
>VGA Compatable controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go 
> 64M] (rev 163).
>  IRQ 48.
>  Master Capable.  Latency=248.  Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
>  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x900 [0x91ff].
>  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x9400 [0x97ff].
>  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf100 [0xf107].
> 
> The line that starts out "VGA.." and the next one should be the same line.
> Mozilla mail insisted on word wrapping it.

Still don't see what I'm looking for.  Something like:

Card:Matrox Millennium G200: Matrox|MGA G200 (vendor:102b device:0520)

(lspcidrake -v)

Associated ldetect-lst/pcitable entry:

0x102b  0x0520  "Card:Matrox Millennium G200"   "Matrox|MGA G200"

Looks like that comes from /proc/bus/pci/devices

0118102b052018  fa08f900f980
 f8ff0100
40000080
0001matroxfb

> > I was mostly interested in that looping error
you mentioned before - > > anything at the tail end of the log?
> 
> No but I can make out the message the flies by indefinately.
> 
> <7> Process runinstall2 tried to read below stack
> <7>addr:  656c6f74, gpr1: 7990, 0fcd7be0, lr: 0fef77c4
> 

Oh, that's nasty. I believe that's coming from the kernel.  Sounds like
the installer poked into somewhere it shouldn't have :(

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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Shade
Mostly I'm interested in the video card line.  Sounds like ldetect-lst has
a bad entry for it.
(From /proc/pci)

Bus  0, device 16, function   0:
  VGA Compatable controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go 
64M] (rev 163).
IRQ 48.
Master Capable.  Latency=248.  Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x900 [0x91ff].
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x9400 [0x97ff].
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf100 [0xf107].

The line that starts out "VGA.." and the next one should be the same line.
Mozilla mail insisted on word wrapping it.
I was mostly interested in that looping error you mentioned before -
anything at the tail end of the log?
No but I can make out the message the flies by indefinately.

<7> Process runinstall2 tried to read below stack
<7>addr:  656c6f74, gpr1: 7990, 0fcd7be0, lr: 0fef77c4
I don't think there are any typos, but keep in mind it was pretty hard 
to read at all.  At that point the installer is hung.  The machine is 
still responsive, though.  This happens right after pushing the ok 
button after entering my pppoe account information.

rob




RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-26 Thread Stew Benedict

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 3.) The installer skips the package selection.
> 

In the midst of a 9.1 text install - package selection is now restored.

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RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-26 Thread Stew Benedict

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  > Did you start with Apple_Free space on the drive?  If you do, the
> > bootstrap normally gets created before the partitioning step.
> 
> No.  OS X won't install with free space left on the drive. (At least
> with my 10.2.3 CD)  I had to leave the space that I wanted for linux as
> a UFS (I think that is what is was) partition.
> 

Ahh.  It should have still flagged the new bootstrap to be formatted.
Must be something wrong in the installer code on a manually created one.

> > Not good. If you get the machine up and running the output of
> > lspcidrake would be useful.
> 
> I booted into the rescue mode (with the benh kernel) off of the cd.  I ran
> lspcidrake but everything came up unidentified.  I would send you the
> output of that and /proc/pci but I can't get to ext2 paritions from os x.
> 

Mostly I'm interested in the video card line.  Sounds like ldetect-lst has
a bad entry for it.

> > Known issue with 9.0 text install.  Things should be much different on
> > the next ISO.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> > Not sure what's going on there.  I haven't actually tried that piece
> > of the install. Again, if you can get the machine up, and ddebug.log
> > is available, I'd be interested in it. (root's home dir, if it made it
> > there)
> 
> Ok.  I can get to it in rescue mode, but short of retyping it all I can't
> send it to.
> 

I was mostly interested in that looping error you mentioned before -
anything at the tail end of the log?

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RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-26 Thread rshade
 > Did you start with Apple_Free space on the drive?  If you do, the
> bootstrap normally gets created before the partitioning step.

No.  OS X won't install with free space left on the drive. (At least
with my 10.2.3 CD)  I had to leave the space that I wanted for linux as
a UFS (I think that is what is was) partition.

> Not good. If you get the machine up and running the output of
> lspcidrake would be useful.

I booted into the rescue mode (with the benh kernel) off of the cd.  I ran
lspcidrake but everything came up unidentified.  I would send you the
output of that and /proc/pci but I can't get to ext2 paritions from os x.

> Known issue with 9.0 text install.  Things should be much different on
> the next ISO.

Ok.

> Not sure what's going on there.  I haven't actually tried that piece
> of the install. Again, if you can get the machine up, and ddebug.log
> is available, I'd be interested in it. (root's home dir, if it made it
> there)

Ok.  I can get to it in rescue mode, but short of retyping it all I can't
send it to.

rob





Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-26 Thread Stew Benedict

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Anne et Bertrand wrote:

> > I'm fighting some issues to do an RC1.  Perl is slightly broken at the
> > moment, it spews errors everytime it accesses unistd.ph.  It does "do
> > the
> > right thing", but it's ugly.  I'm trying to port the 9.1 installer
> > now,
> > because the locales are broken when I rebuild the 9.0 installer in the
> > current environment.  I got it to run through completion a couple of
> > times
> > now on my iMac, but the 7600 will probably be a challenge since the
> > 9.0
> > installer consistantly locked that machine up several times before I
> > disabled a number of the hardware probes.
> 
> Does this mean that 9.1 won't install on oldworld macs ? :-((
> I miss a DSL connection to download and test cooker now on mine (4400 
> clone... ).
> 
> Regards,
> Bertrand Dekoninck.
> 

I hope that it will be able to at least support the machines we have in
the past.  I don't recall anyone trying a 4400 before.

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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-26 Thread Anne et Bertrand
I'm fighting some issues to do an RC1.  Perl is slightly broken at the
moment, it spews errors everytime it accesses unistd.ph.  It does "do
the
right thing", but it's ugly.  I'm trying to port the 9.1 installer
now,
because the locales are broken when I rebuild the 9.0 installer in the
current environment.  I got it to run through completion a couple of
times
now on my iMac, but the 7600 will probably be a challenge since the
9.0
installer consistantly locked that machine up several times before I
disabled a number of the hardware probes.
Does this mean that 9.1 won't install on oldworld macs ? :-((
I miss a DSL connection to download and test cooker now on mine (4400 
clone... ).

Regards,
Bertrand Dekoninck.


RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-26 Thread Stew Benedict

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hmm... responding to my own emails...
> 
> >Maybe they
> > mean it won't boot when it's put on the HD?
> 
> Yeah it looks like that is it.  I went through the install and when i
> rebooted after making the changes in OpenFirmware I saw a OS 9 looking
> screen for a second, but it when ahead and loaded OS X anyway.
> 
> > Is there any way to boot the cd using the benh kernel but start the text
> > mode install?
> 
> Figured it out. :)
> 
> Since I was able to go through the install, here's what I found:
> 
> 1.) I had to manually format the Bootstrap partition i had to create or
> the bootloader wouldn't install.
> 

Did you start with Apple_Free space on the drive?  If you do, the
bootstrap normally gets created before the partitioning step.

> 2.) My video card was incorrectly detected as a GeForce 2 chipset when it
> is a GeForce 4.  It gave me the same invalid argument error that i was
> getting before when i was trying to use the GUI installer.  When i
> explicitly told it that it was a GeForce 4, X started correctly, but after
> i pushed the ok button on the dialog in the test my machine hung.
> 

Not good. If you get the machine up and running the output of lspcidrake
would be useful.

> 3.) The installer skips the package selection.
> 

Known issue with 9.0 text install.  Things should be much different on the
next ISO.

> 4.) After i finished putting my account information in for my pppoe ADSL
> connection the installer appeared to hang.  I went to some of the other
> terminals to see what was going on and on one it was printing the same two
> line message over and over again.  It was going to fast to make out what
> it was saying.  I had to power off the machine.
> 

Not sure what's going on there.  I haven't actually tried that piece of
the install. Again, if you can get the machine up, and ddebug.log is
available, I'd be interested in it. (root's home dir, if it made it there)

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RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-26 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Not necessarily.  The syntax in the current ofboot.b on the CD is like
> > that:
> >
> > " Booting Mandrake Linux PPC..." fb8-write drop 100 ms
> > boot cd:2,\\yaboot
> >
> > Your method did find yaboot apparently, just not the config?
> 
> Yeah apparently it does.  I tried that and it actually booted.  Which
> leaves me rather confused because it's not supposed to. :)  Maybe they
> mean it won't boot when it's put on the HD?
> 

I think the key is the new ofboot.b header:

was:



MacRISC


now:



MacRISC MacRISC3


> The problem I'm having now is that the installer won't recognize my hard
> drive unless i use the benh kernel.  Unfortunately X won't start with
> either kernel.  It fails with an invalid option error.  I tried usiing the
> old-gui and that starts but it's all corruped and I can barely make out
> what's on the screen.
> 

I'd like to know what the invalid option is if you have any more details.
Normally the install would roll back to the text install when X fails.

> Is there any way to boot the cd using the benh kernel but start the text
> mode install?
> 

Sure - sounds silly but "install-gui-benh text" should do it.
The text entry appends "text video=ofonly" to the kernel arguments,
install-gui-benh passes no arguments, so you should be able to manually
add them.

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RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-26 Thread massimo zavagli

Hallo rshade,

The right command is this:

cd:,//yaboot

the "," is necessary. I do not know why.

Please, can you tell me the following of the
installation?

I need to know what kind of installation works, (
samething of more sophisticate of the install-text )
and if MDK 9.1 can detect the hard disk.

Please, tell me the news

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RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-25 Thread rshade
Hmm... responding to my own emails...

>Maybe they
> mean it won't boot when it's put on the HD?

Yeah it looks like that is it.  I went through the install and when i
rebooted after making the changes in OpenFirmware I saw a OS 9 looking
screen for a second, but it when ahead and loaded OS X anyway.

> Is there any way to boot the cd using the benh kernel but start the text
> mode install?

Figured it out. :)

Since I was able to go through the install, here's what I found:

1.) I had to manually format the Bootstrap partition i had to create or
the bootloader wouldn't install.

2.) My video card was incorrectly detected as a GeForce 2 chipset when it
is a GeForce 4.  It gave me the same invalid argument error that i was
getting before when i was trying to use the GUI installer.  When i
explicitly told it that it was a GeForce 4, X started correctly, but after
i pushed the ok button on the dialog in the test my machine hung.

3.) The installer skips the package selection.

4.) After i finished putting my account information in for my pppoe ADSL
connection the installer appeared to hang.  I went to some of the other
terminals to see what was going on and on one it was printing the same two
line message over and over again.  It was going to fast to make out what
it was saying.  I had to power off the machine.

rob





RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-25 Thread rshade
> Not necessarily.  The syntax in the current ofboot.b on the CD is like
> that:
>
> " Booting Mandrake Linux PPC..." fb8-write drop 100 ms
> boot cd:2,\\yaboot
>
> Your method did find yaboot apparently, just not the config?

Yeah apparently it does.  I tried that and it actually booted.  Which
leaves me rather confused because it's not supposed to. :)  Maybe they
mean it won't boot when it's put on the HD?

The problem I'm having now is that the installer won't recognize my hard
drive unless i use the benh kernel.  Unfortunately X won't start with
either kernel.  It fails with an invalid option error.  I tried usiing the
old-gui and that starts but it's all corruped and I can barely make out
what's on the screen.

Is there any way to boot the cd using the benh kernel but start the text
mode install?

> I see the difference in the new ofboot.  I've applied the changes so the
> next ISO may work for you.

Great. Thanks.





RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-25 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  > So what entry did you use in OF?
> > boot cd:2,\\yaboot ?
> 
> no i used boot cd:\\yaboot.  was that incorrect?
> 

Not necessarily.  The syntax in the current ofboot.b on the CD is like
that:

" Booting Mandrake Linux PPC..." fb8-write drop 100 ms
boot cd:2,\\yaboot

Your method did find yaboot apparently, just not the config?

I see the difference in the new ofboot.  I've applied the changes so the
next ISO may work for you.

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RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-25 Thread rshade
 > So what entry did you use in OF?
> boot cd:2,\\yaboot ?

no i used boot cd:\\yaboot.  was that incorrect?

rob





RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-25 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have one of the new 12" Powerbooks.  I just finished re-partitioning and
> re-installing OS X.  Unfortunately I've already encountered a problem. 
> According to
> http://lists.penguinppc.org/yaboot-announce/2003/yaboot-announce-200302/msg0.html
> (the release announcement for Yaboot 1.3.9) previous yaboot versions will
> not work on the new powerbooks.  I can reproduce this problem.
> 
> Holding down the "c" key on boot does not boot the cd.  So, Used the
> command+option+O+F magik key combination.  I succesfully loaded yaboot but
> upon loading i get an error about not being able to read yaboot.conf.  I
> can give the exact error if you need it (I don't want to reboot halfway
> through writing an email :) ).  I do get a yaboot prompt but no splash
> screen or the "Welcome" message.  I don't think that it's a bad cd problem
> because i verified the MD5 sum and am able to read the documentation on
> the cd.
> 

So what entry did you use in OF?
boot cd:2,\\yaboot ?

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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-25 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Robert Shade wrote:

> > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3
> 
> Just thinking that you might want to update the FAQ to say something 
> about all previous releases (Any previous Linux PPC distro for that 
> matter) will not work with these New New World machines.  The 14" and 
> 17" powerbooks are the only ones i know that are effected now, but Apple 
> might use the same new roms in other new machines (new as in manufacture 
> date as well as in model).
> 

You're probably right, but I don't have write access to that file, and my
time is stretched a little thin.  For the most part, support for machines
made after a given release is not going to be very good.  Things will
work, but X support is generally not quite there, so one has to tweak it a
bit.  But you're right, not being able to boot is a big issue.  I could
cerainly do an update of yaboot for 8.2, but the ISO's will still be
broken.

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Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-25 Thread Robert Shade
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3
Just thinking that you might want to update the FAQ to say something 
about all previous releases (Any previous Linux PPC distro for that 
matter) will not work with these New New World machines.  The 14" and 
17" powerbooks are the only ones i know that are effected now, but Apple 
might use the same new roms in other new machines (new as in manufacture 
date as well as in model).

rob





RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12'

2003-02-25 Thread rshade
> Sounds like it had better be.  I'll package it and see if it can be
> uploaded.  We're in freeze, but that sounds like a valid reason to me.

Great. Thanks. Does cooker PPC share the same changelog mailing list as
the regular cooker?

> I'm fighting some issues to do an RC1.  

You guys sure do love perl over there. :)  I still can't belive that
entire installer is in perl.

Good Luck. I look forward to that release.

rob





Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-25 Thread Francesco Corona
Stew Benedict wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Any chance that yaboot will be updated for the next beta/rc?  Any ETA >on
>the next PPC release? :)


>>Sounds like it had better be.  I'll package it and see if it can be
>>uploaded.  We're in freeze, but that sounds like a valid reason to me.
it sounds so also to me. I am not in charge for any decision, but I'd 
love to be able to boot mdk 9.1 on the 17" albook I am planning to be 
getting on for myself asap.
that yaboot, should be capable to make the trick on that machine, too.
please, correct me if I am wrong!

regards,

Francesco





RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-25 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have one of the new 12" Powerbooks.  I just finished re-partitioning and
> re-installing OS X.  Unfortunately I've already encountered a problem. 
> According to
> http://lists.penguinppc.org/yaboot-announce/2003/yaboot-announce-200302/msg0.html
> (the release announcement for Yaboot 1.3.9) previous yaboot versions will
> not work on the new powerbooks.  I can reproduce this problem.
> 
> Holding down the "c" key on boot does not boot the cd.  So, Used the
> command+option+O+F magik key combination.  I succesfully loaded yaboot but
> upon loading i get an error about not being able to read yaboot.conf.  I
> can give the exact error if you need it (I don't want to reboot halfway
> through writing an email :) ).  I do get a yaboot prompt but no splash
> screen or the "Welcome" message.  I don't think that it's a bad cd problem
> because i verified the MD5 sum and am able to read the documentation on
> the cd.
> 
> Any chance that yaboot will be updated for the next beta/rc?  Any ETA on
> the next PPC release? :)
> 

Sounds like it had better be.  I'll package it and see if it can be
uploaded.  We're in freeze, but that sounds like a valid reason to me.

I'm fighting some issues to do an RC1.  Perl is slightly broken at the
moment, it spews errors everytime it accesses unistd.ph.  It does "do the
right thing", but it's ugly.  I'm trying to port the 9.1 installer now,
because the locales are broken when I rebuild the 9.0 installer in the
current environment.  I got it to run through completion a couple of times
now on my iMac, but the 7600 will probably be a challenge since the 9.0
installer consistantly locked that machine up several times before I
disabled a number of the hardware probes.  I'd like to release RC1 by the
end of the week, but I'm also getting hit up for issues in drak tools that
I thought someone else was porting to gtk2, but apparently not.

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RE: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-24 Thread rshade
I have one of the new 12" Powerbooks.  I just finished re-partitioning and
re-installing OS X.  Unfortunately I've already encountered a problem. 
According to
http://lists.penguinppc.org/yaboot-announce/2003/yaboot-announce-200302/msg0.html
(the release announcement for Yaboot 1.3.9) previous yaboot versions will
not work on the new powerbooks.  I can reproduce this problem.

Holding down the "c" key on boot does not boot the cd.  So, Used the
command+option+O+F magik key combination.  I succesfully loaded yaboot but
upon loading i get an error about not being able to read yaboot.conf.  I
can give the exact error if you need it (I don't want to reboot halfway
through writing an email :) ).  I do get a yaboot prompt but no splash
screen or the "Welcome" message.  I don't think that it's a bad cd problem
because i verified the MD5 sum and am able to read the documentation on
the cd.

Any chance that yaboot will be updated for the next beta/rc?  Any ETA on
the next PPC release? :)

I can't wait to load linux on my shiny new Powerbook. :)

BTW, this is beta 2 and I'm a pretty tech savvy linux user of about 4
years, so I can answer most tech questions you might need answering to
resolve this.

Happy Cooking!

rob





Re: 9.1 on Powerbook G4 12" ?

2003-02-22 Thread Stew Benedict

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Herve Bouzillard wrote:

> Will Mandrake 9.1 support new Powerbook G4 12 inches (not the titanium, the smaller 
> "aluminium" one)? 
> 
> Hervé
> 

Possibly.  Hard to say for sure if no-one that owns one participates in
cooker.  I sure won't be buying one anytime soon.

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9.1 on Powerbook G4 12" ?

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