RE: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-12-01 Thread Jonathan Sailor

Any time

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Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After install



On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 08:39 PM, Jonathan Sailor wrote:

> Comments on booting the rescue mode:
> You do see a yaboot prompt when booting off the cd, right?
Yup! I will check it out. I want to split my remaining 11.1 GB into a 
Darwin partition followed by Mandrake.
>  Also, sys-linux
> (the x86 cd bootloader) is a lot more developed to this kind of thing.
> Yaboot, well, it does work. Try hitting tab for a list of images. 
> (Syslinux
> was designed for this, yaboot was designed for lilo-ish stuff.)
>
> Hope to help, good luck
You did Jonathan and thanks!

> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Stechesen
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After install
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 05:46 AM, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can successfully
>>> install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get the
>>> bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and
>>> the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get
>>> Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it
>>> can't find the image.
>>>
>>> I have tried everything I could find on the web, in the document pages
>>> and I have posed this question on many Forums but I have not ever
>>> gotten
>>> answer. It seems that everyone can get the damn thing booted , and 
>>> then
>>> have problems afterwards or have problems with the bootloader, but I
>>> don't have any troubles with install/configuration just booting.
>>>
>>> I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in
>>> general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 
>>> 8.0
>>> and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of
>>> frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on
>>> both
>>> my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The PC
>>> 8.0
>>> runs just fine for me.)
>>>
>>
>> I own the same machine.  I need to know some things about your 
>> partition
>> setup and yaboot setup.
>>
>> Can you:
>>
>> 1) boot the rescue CD
> Rescue cd?  Do I enter rescue from the yaboot prompt after the cd loads
> or what. On the pc it is an option right from the time the cd
> boots/mounts (press F1 if I am not mistaken).
>
>> 2) tell me something about what
>>  /sbin/pdisk -l /dev/hda
>>says
> I had it partitioned fine all three times that I laid out the hard 
> drive.
>
>
>> 3) If you know what partition you installed linux on, mount it on
>> /mnt/disk in the rescue mode and send:
>>  the contents of yaboot.conf
>>  ls -l /boot
>>
> Can't help you there right now because I removed Mandrake in place of
> Darwin. But I may be able to devote a few GB to mandrake after. Is there
> a way to avoid this continual problem at install? I may try reinstalling
> before i install Darwin.
>> (You can bring up networking in rescue and ftp this stuff to another
>> machine)
>>
>> It sounds like just a typo or something in yaboot.conf, although the
>> installer should have set it up for you like it does for most everyone
>> else. Is /boot a seperate partition (even if it is, we uncovered that
>> issue in the beta and it should be fixed now)?
>>
>> Stew Benedict
>>
>> --
>> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
>> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>>
>>
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Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Aaron Stechesen


On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 08:39 PM, Jonathan Sailor wrote:

> Comments on booting the rescue mode:
> You do see a yaboot prompt when booting off the cd, right?
Yup! I will check it out. I want to split my remaining 11.1 GB into a 
Darwin partition followed by Mandrake.
>  Also, sys-linux
> (the x86 cd bootloader) is a lot more developed to this kind of thing.
> Yaboot, well, it does work. Try hitting tab for a list of images. 
> (Syslinux
> was designed for this, yaboot was designed for lilo-ish stuff.)
>
> Hope to help, good luck
You did Jonathan and thanks!

> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Stechesen
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After install
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 05:46 AM, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can successfully
>>> install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get the
>>> bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and
>>> the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get
>>> Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it
>>> can't find the image.
>>>
>>> I have tried everything I could find on the web, in the document pages
>>> and I have posed this question on many Forums but I have not ever
>>> gotten
>>> answer. It seems that everyone can get the damn thing booted , and 
>>> then
>>> have problems afterwards or have problems with the bootloader, but I
>>> don't have any troubles with install/configuration just booting.
>>>
>>> I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in
>>> general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 
>>> 8.0
>>> and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of
>>> frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on
>>> both
>>> my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The PC
>>> 8.0
>>> runs just fine for me.)
>>>
>>
>> I own the same machine.  I need to know some things about your 
>> partition
>> setup and yaboot setup.
>>
>> Can you:
>>
>> 1) boot the rescue CD
> Rescue cd?  Do I enter rescue from the yaboot prompt after the cd loads
> or what. On the pc it is an option right from the time the cd
> boots/mounts (press F1 if I am not mistaken).
>
>> 2) tell me something about what
>>  /sbin/pdisk -l /dev/hda
>>says
> I had it partitioned fine all three times that I laid out the hard 
> drive.
>
>
>> 3) If you know what partition you installed linux on, mount it on
>> /mnt/disk in the rescue mode and send:
>>  the contents of yaboot.conf
>>  ls -l /boot
>>
> Can't help you there right now because I removed Mandrake in place of
> Darwin. But I may be able to devote a few GB to mandrake after. Is there
> a way to avoid this continual problem at install? I may try reinstalling
> before i install Darwin.
>> (You can bring up networking in rescue and ftp this stuff to another
>> machine)
>>
>> It sounds like just a typo or something in yaboot.conf, although the
>> installer should have set it up for you like it does for most everyone
>> else. Is /boot a seperate partition (even if it is, we uncovered that
>> issue in the beta and it should be fixed now)?
>>
>> Stew Benedict
>>
>> --
>> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
>> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>>
>>
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Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Aaron Stechesen

Listen I don't want to turn this into a political debate al i wanted is 
help. I am frustrate sure and might have made a slight towards the 
distro, but don't take it to heart. I am just one person having trouble 
and asking for help. I don't want anyone else venting here and starting 
a " linux did this and apple does that fight". If you want to vent and 
do this bickering go to linuxnewbie and join the bashers their!

Sorry but this isn't a politics debate it's a help line.
On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 06:19 PM, Ben Reser wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:50:14PM -, AllanL wrote:
>> I think that there is a serious mindset issue here in the quote I 
>> pulled out
>> of the following.
>>
>>> Instaling linux od mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.
>>
>> It should not be hard, that is why I think there are things like 
>> diskdrake
>> being developed.  On this issue
>
> diskdrake has nothing to do with this guys issue.  And diskdrake won't
> necessarily make linux on macs easy.  The issue is and always will be
> that the information we have on the hardware is mostly by reverse
> engineering it.  Sometimes stuff isn't going to work.  If you don't like
> it.  Please complaign to Apple about their policies of keeping a lot of
> things secret or go spend time reverse engineering it.
>
>>  I will also mention that Mandrake does not seem to have scsi support 
>> in the
>> kernel (at least in 8) and
>>  I think there were comments about this.  Why make things difficult.
>> Personally I could never get 8 to
>> find my scsi cd rom or disk.
>
> This is a policy decision that goes beyond even the PPC version.  I
> don't specifically know the rational for making it.  But I would imagine
> the best place to ask this question is on the cooker list not the
> cooker-ppc list.
>
> --
> Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://ben.reser.org
>
> "To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence.
> Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without
> fighting." -Chinese philosopher Sun Tzu
>





Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Aaron Stechesen


On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 06:11 PM, Stew Benedict wrote:

>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
>>> Can you:
>>>
>>> 1) boot the rescue CD
>> Rescue cd?  Do I enter rescue from the yaboot prompt after the cd loads
>> or what. On the pc it is an option right from the time the cd
>> boots/mounts (press F1 if I am not mistaken).
>>
>
> I believe there is a "rescue" choice at the yaboot prompt.
>
>>> 2) tell me something about what
>>> /sbin/pdisk -l /dev/hda
>>>says
>> I had it partitioned fine all three times that I laid out the hard 
>> drive.
>>
>>
>
> I'm not doubting your partition setup.   just want to know what it is to
> be able to help out with specific instructions.
>
>>> 3) If you know what partition you installed linux on, mount it on
>>> /mnt/disk in the rescue mode and send:
>>> the contents of yaboot.conf
>>> ls -l /boot
>>>
>> Can't help you there right now because I removed Mandrake in place of
>> Darwin. But I may be able to devote a few GB to mandrake after. Is 
>> there
>> a way to avoid this continual problem at install? I may try 
>> reinstalling
>> before i install Darwin.
>
> As I said.  I have the same machine and have done many installs on it. 
> We
> wouldn't have released the product if it couldn't set up the bootloader.
> Obviously in your case there's something wrong, but since the system is 
> no
> longer there I guess it's a moot point,
>
> Did you ever ask for help on this list when you had the problem?
Embarassingly I couldn't quite figure this cooker thing out. I am not 
very familiar with it.

To answer the partitioning from before. hda 6 was my mac partition and 
is was alloted 8GB (didn't have a choice with this one). It contains OS 
X.1 and 9.2 (don't like 9.2 but I needed it for my scanner). Then came 
the bootstrap partition, partition type of Apple_Bootstrap. Then, root 
partition size varied (ususally 3.4 GB) Partitioned as UNIXSRVR_2  (or 
however that goes), linux swap (250 GB), finally /home (7+GB) also typed 
UNIXSERVR_2. Install goes fine (usually) always installed clean. 
Bootloader always loads and worksexcept  with Mandrake.
>   I
> usually try to go the extra mile to help folks out.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
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> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
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Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Allan E. Levy wrote:

> What is the difference between modular SCSI support and kernel 
> support. Showing my lack of knowledge
> 

Both are kernel code

modular: loaded as a module
or monolithic: bound to the kernel binary 

Our policy is to load most drivers as modules.

Stew Benedict

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RE: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Jonathan Sailor

Comments on booting the rescue mode:
You do see a yaboot prompt when booting off the cd, right? Also, sys-linux
(the x86 cd bootloader) is a lot more developed to this kind of thing.
Yaboot, well, it does work. Try hitting tab for a list of images. (Syslinux
was designed for this, yaboot was designed for lilo-ish stuff.)

Hope to help, good luck
Jonathan

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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After install



On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 05:46 AM, Stew Benedict wrote:

>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can successfully
>> install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get the
>> bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and
>> the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get
>> Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it
>> can't find the image.
>>
>> I have tried everything I could find on the web, in the document pages
>> and I have posed this question on many Forums but I have not ever
>> gotten
>> answer. It seems that everyone can get the damn thing booted , and then
>> have problems afterwards or have problems with the bootloader, but I
>> don't have any troubles with install/configuration just booting.
>>
>> I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in
>> general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 8.0
>> and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of
>> frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on
>> both
>> my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The PC
>> 8.0
>> runs just fine for me.)
>>
>
> I own the same machine.  I need to know some things about your partition
> setup and yaboot setup.
>
> Can you:
>
> 1) boot the rescue CD
Rescue cd?  Do I enter rescue from the yaboot prompt after the cd loads
or what. On the pc it is an option right from the time the cd
boots/mounts (press F1 if I am not mistaken).

> 2) tell me something about what
>   /sbin/pdisk -l /dev/hda
>says
I had it partitioned fine all three times that I laid out the hard drive.


> 3) If you know what partition you installed linux on, mount it on
> /mnt/disk in the rescue mode and send:
>   the contents of yaboot.conf
>   ls -l /boot
>
Can't help you there right now because I removed Mandrake in place of
Darwin. But I may be able to devote a few GB to mandrake after. Is there
a way to avoid this continual problem at install? I may try reinstalling
before i install Darwin.
> (You can bring up networking in rescue and ftp this stuff to another
> machine)
>
> It sounds like just a typo or something in yaboot.conf, although the
> installer should have set it up for you like it does for most everyone
> else. Is /boot a seperate partition (even if it is, we uncovered that
> issue in the beta and it should be fixed now)?
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft  OH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>


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Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Allan E. Levy

What is the difference between modular SCSI support and kernel 
support. Showing my lack of knowledge


>
>  >
>>  >  I will also mention that Mandrake does not seem to have scsi 
>>support in the
>>  > kernel (at least in 8) and
>>  >  I think there were comments about this.  Why make things difficult.
>>  > Personally I could never get 8 to
>>  > find my scsi cd rom or disk. 
>>
>>  This is a policy decision that goes beyond even the PPC version.  I
>>  don't specifically know the rational for making it.  But I would imagine
>>  the best place to ask this question is on the cooker list not the
>>  cooker-ppc list.
>>
>
>There is and was modular SCSI support.  I overlooked aic7xxx and have
>apologized for that error as well as created new ISO's for those folks
>needing that driver.  I have SCSI on both of my machines and use it
>regularly. Nearly every module that will compile on PPC is included, many
>of which will probably never get used. It may be true that SCSI did not
>wokr on your particular machine.  I've read of various "tricks" that have
>to be performed on some Macs to get it to work, not only in Mandrake, due
>to the way it is implemented on some machines. (removing certain
>devices/cards, etc. etc.)
>
>Stew Benedict
>
>--
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>PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/


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Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Ben Reser wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:50:14PM -, AllanL wrote:
> > I think that there is a serious mindset issue here in the quote I pulled out
> > of the following.
> > 
> > > Instaling linux od mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.
> > 
> > It should not be hard, that is why I think there are things like diskdrake
> > being developed.  On this issue
> 
> diskdrake has nothing to do with this guys issue.  And diskdrake won't
> necessarily make linux on macs easy.  The issue is and always will be
> that the information we have on the hardware is mostly by reverse
> engineering it.  Sometimes stuff isn't going to work.  If you don't like
> it.  Please complaign to Apple about their policies of keeping a lot of
> things secret or go spend time reverse engineering it.
> 
> >  I will also mention that Mandrake does not seem to have scsi support in the
> > kernel (at least in 8) and
> >  I think there were comments about this.  Why make things difficult.
> > Personally I could never get 8 to
> > find my scsi cd rom or disk.  
> 
> This is a policy decision that goes beyond even the PPC version.  I
> don't specifically know the rational for making it.  But I would imagine
> the best place to ask this question is on the cooker list not the
> cooker-ppc list.
> 

There is and was modular SCSI support.  I overlooked aic7xxx and have
apologized for that error as well as created new ISO's for those folks
needing that driver.  I have SCSI on both of my machines and use it
regularly. Nearly every module that will compile on PPC is included, many
of which will probably never get used. It may be true that SCSI did not
wokr on your particular machine.  I've read of various "tricks" that have
to be performed on some Macs to get it to work, not only in Mandrake, due
to the way it is implemented on some machines. (removing certain
devices/cards, etc. etc.)

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:50:14PM -, AllanL wrote:
> I think that there is a serious mindset issue here in the quote I pulled out
> of the following.
> 
> > Instaling linux od mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.
> 
> It should not be hard, that is why I think there are things like diskdrake
> being developed.  On this issue

diskdrake has nothing to do with this guys issue.  And diskdrake won't
necessarily make linux on macs easy.  The issue is and always will be
that the information we have on the hardware is mostly by reverse
engineering it.  Sometimes stuff isn't going to work.  If you don't like
it.  Please complaign to Apple about their policies of keeping a lot of
things secret or go spend time reverse engineering it.

>  I will also mention that Mandrake does not seem to have scsi support in the
> kernel (at least in 8) and
>  I think there were comments about this.  Why make things difficult.
> Personally I could never get 8 to
> find my scsi cd rom or disk.  

This is a policy decision that goes beyond even the PPC version.  I
don't specifically know the rational for making it.  But I would imagine
the best place to ask this question is on the cooker list not the
cooker-ppc list.

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

"To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence. 
Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without
fighting." -Chinese philosopher Sun Tzu




Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> > Can you:
> >
> > 1) boot the rescue CD
> Rescue cd?  Do I enter rescue from the yaboot prompt after the cd loads 
> or what. On the pc it is an option right from the time the cd 
> boots/mounts (press F1 if I am not mistaken).
> 

I believe there is a "rescue" choice at the yaboot prompt.

> > 2) tell me something about what
> > /sbin/pdisk -l /dev/hda
> >says
> I had it partitioned fine all three times that I laid out the hard drive.
> 
> 

I'm not doubting your partition setup.   just want to know what it is to
be able to help out with specific instructions.

> > 3) If you know what partition you installed linux on, mount it on
> > /mnt/disk in the rescue mode and send:
> > the contents of yaboot.conf
> > ls -l /boot
> >
> Can't help you there right now because I removed Mandrake in place of 
> Darwin. But I may be able to devote a few GB to mandrake after. Is there 
> a way to avoid this continual problem at install? I may try reinstalling 
> before i install Darwin.

As I said.  I have the same machine and have done many installs on it. We
wouldn't have released the product if it couldn't set up the bootloader.
Obviously in your case there's something wrong, but since the system is no
longer there I guess it's a moot point,

Did you ever ask for help on this list when you had the problem?  I
usually try to go the extra mile to help folks out.

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
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RE: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread AllanL

I think that there is a serious mindset issue here in the quote I pulled out
of the following.

> Instaling linux od mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.

It should not be hard, that is why I think there are things like diskdrake
being developed.  On this issue
 I will also mention that Mandrake does not seem to have scsi support in the
kernel (at least in 8) and
 I think there were comments about this.  Why make things difficult.
Personally I could never get 8 to
find my scsi cd rom or disk.  

>  -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Stechesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SUN  
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 22:49
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Booting Mandrake After install
> 
>  
> How do I get it to run rescue from cdrom/cd?
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 04:05 AM, Marcin Chojnowski wrote:
> 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > From: Marcin Chojnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After install
> >
> > Cc:
> >
> > Bcc:
> >
> > X-Attachments:
> >
> > I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can successfully
> > install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get the
> > bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and
> > the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get
> > Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it
> > can't find the image.
> >
> >
> > You must check how yaboot config file is looking like. You will find it
> > in /etc dir. Just put Installation CD in cd-rom drive run in rescue
> > mode.
> >
> > Then mount linux partition that you created and type chroot
> > /mount/point bash
> >
> > Then go to /etc and check config file. then check if you have all files
> > it's using in /boot dir. I found that sometimes mandrake is trying to
> > build initrd image and it cannot so it wuould like to use it upon
> > startup.
> >
> > Please check if you have this file, if now just remowe in yaboot config
> > line initr = /boot/initr.
> >
> > For me it worked, because I don;t haveÅz any unusual devices.
> >
> >
> > I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in
> > general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 8.0
> > and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of
> > frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on
> > both my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The
> > PC 8.0 runs just fine for me.)
> >
> >
> > Instaling linux od mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.
> >
> > If you have any wuestions just ask.
> >
> > Martin
> > --
> >
> > --
> >
>  
> How do I get it to run rescue from cdrom/cd?
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 04:05 AM, Marcin Chojnowski wrote:
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   From: Marcin Chojnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After install
>   Cc:
>   Bcc:
>   X-Attachments:
>   I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can
> successfully install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get
> the bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and
> the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get Loading
> Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it can't find the
> image.
>   You must check how yaboot config file is looking like. You will find
> it in /etc dir. Just put Installation CD in cd-rom drive run in rescue
> mode.
>   Then mount linux partition that you created and type chroot
> /mount/point bash
>   Then go to /etc and check config file. then check if you have all
> files it's using in /boot dir. I found that sometimes mandrake is trying
> to build initrd image and it cannot so it wuould like to use it upon
> startup.
>   Please check if you have this file, if now just remowe in yaboot
> config line initr = /boot/initr.
>   For me it worked, because I don;t haveÅzany unusual devices.
>   I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in
> general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 8.0
> and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of
> frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on both
> my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The PC 8.0
> runs just fine for me.)
>   Instaling linux od mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.
>   If you have any wuestions just ask.
>   Martin
>   --
>   --
> 
> 

<>

Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Aaron Stechesen


On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 05:46 AM, Stew Benedict wrote:

>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can successfully
>> install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get the
>> bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and
>> the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get
>> Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it
>> can't find the image.
>>
>> I have tried everything I could find on the web, in the document pages
>> and I have posed this question on many Forums but I have not ever 
>> gotten
>> answer. It seems that everyone can get the damn thing booted , and then
>> have problems afterwards or have problems with the bootloader, but I
>> don't have any troubles with install/configuration just booting.
>>
>> I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in
>> general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 8.0
>> and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of
>> frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on 
>> both
>> my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The PC 
>> 8.0
>> runs just fine for me.)
>>
>
> I own the same machine.  I need to know some things about your partition
> setup and yaboot setup.
>
> Can you:
>
> 1) boot the rescue CD
Rescue cd?  Do I enter rescue from the yaboot prompt after the cd loads 
or what. On the pc it is an option right from the time the cd 
boots/mounts (press F1 if I am not mistaken).

> 2) tell me something about what
>   /sbin/pdisk -l /dev/hda
>says
I had it partitioned fine all three times that I laid out the hard drive.


> 3) If you know what partition you installed linux on, mount it on
> /mnt/disk in the rescue mode and send:
>   the contents of yaboot.conf
>   ls -l /boot
>
Can't help you there right now because I removed Mandrake in place of 
Darwin. But I may be able to devote a few GB to mandrake after. Is there 
a way to avoid this continual problem at install? I may try reinstalling 
before i install Darwin.
> (You can bring up networking in rescue and ftp this stuff to another
> machine)
>
> It sounds like just a typo or something in yaboot.conf, although the
> installer should have set it up for you like it does for most everyone
> else. Is /boot a seperate partition (even if it is, we uncovered that
> issue in the beta and it should be fixed now)?
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft  OH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>





Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Aaron Stechesen
How do I get it to run rescue from cdrom/cd?
On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 04:05 AM, Marcin Chojnowski wrote:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Marcin Chojnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After install

Cc:

Bcc:

X-Attachments:

I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can successfully install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get the bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it can't find the image.


You must check how yaboot config file is looking like. You will find it in /etc dir. Just put Installation CD in cd-rom drive run in rescue mode.

Then mount linux partition that you created and type chroot /mount/point bash

Then go to /etc and check config file. then check if you have all files it's using in /boot dir. I found that sometimes mandrake is trying to build initrd image and it cannot so it wuould like to use it upon startup.

Please check if you have this file, if now just remowe in yaboot config line initr = /boot/initr.

For me it worked, because I don;t haveŞ any unusual devices.


I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 8.0 and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on both my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The PC 8.0 runs just fine for me.)


Instaling linux od mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.

If you have any wuestions just ask.

Martin
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Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I can successfully 
> install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I can get the 
> bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the CDROM, and 
> the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I either get 
> Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message that it 
> can't find the image.
> 
> I have tried everything I could find on the web, in the document pages 
> and I have posed this question on many Forums but I have not ever gotten 
> answer. It seems that everyone can get the damn thing booted , and then 
> have problems afterwards or have problems with the bootloader, but I 
> don't have any troubles with install/configuration just booting.
> 
> I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with Mandrake in 
> general because of the endless problems I have been having with PPC 8.0 
> and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after three months of 
> frustration I need answers. I so much would like to run Mandrake on both 
> my machines but I really need help getting going on my iMac. (The PC 8.0 
> runs just fine for me.)
> 

I own the same machine.  I need to know some things about your partition
setup and yaboot setup.

Can you:

1) boot the rescue CD
2) tell me something about what 
/sbin/pdisk -l /dev/hda 
   says
3) If you know what partition you installed linux on, mount it on
/mnt/disk in the rescue mode and send: 
the contents of yaboot.conf
ls -l /boot

(You can bring up networking in rescue and ftp this stuff to another
machine)

It sounds like just a typo or something in yaboot.conf, although the
installer should have set it up for you like it does for most everyone
else. Is /boot a seperate partition (even if it is, we uncovered that
issue in the beta and it should be fixed now)?

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





Re: Booting Mandrake After install

2001-11-28 Thread Marcin Chojnowski
Title: Re: Booting Mandrake After
install


To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Marcin Chojnowski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting Mandrake After
install
Cc:
Bcc:
X-Attachments:

I have been driven over the edge with this problem. I
can successfully install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on my Rev.B Bondi iMac and I
can get the bootloader installed (yaboot). Yaboot can boot Mac OS, the
CDROM, and the Open Firmware but I can never get Linux to boot. I
either get Loading Image.(and it never loads) or the error message
that it can't find the image.

You must check how
yaboot config file is looking like. You will find it in /etc dir. Just
put Installation CD in cd-rom drive run in rescue mode.

Then mount linux
partition that you created and type chroot /mount/point
bash

Then go to /etc and
check config file. then check if you have all files it's using in
/boot dir. I found that sometimes mandrake is trying to build initrd
image and it cannot so it wuould like to use it upon
startup.

Please check if you
have this file, if now just remowe in yaboot config line initr =
/boot/initr.

For me it worked,
because I don;t haveŞ any unusual devices.


I am extremely frustrated and getting to wits end with
Mandrake in general because of the endless problems I have been having
with PPC 8.0 and the horrid PC 8.1 version. Please help me, after
three months of frustration I need answers. I so much would like to
run Mandrake on both my machines but I really need help getting going
on my iMac. (The PC 8.0 runs just fine for me.)

Instaling linux od
mac is hard so don't give up and don't worry.

If you have any
wuestions just ask.

Martin
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