Re: Second Stage Cooker Install Problems

2001-12-12 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, James O'Malley wrote:

 Okay, tried it again.  Tried all the install kernels and was unsuccessful. 
 The 2.4.4's came closest. After loading the second stage install, they
 kicked me out with a signal 15 and a shutdown.  So they exhibited a decidely
 _different_ behavior than the 2.4.13's.  Don't know if that helps.
 
 The box is a g3 powerbook firewire with an ATI Rage 128 Mobility.
 
 Still no kernel messages console either.  
 

The 2.4.4 behavior sounds like Xpmac is having trouble coming up.  You've
noted the various video= methods to initiate the boot?  I didn't pick up
from your message whether or not you tried text mode.  I have the Lombard
Powerbook, which still has the mach64 chip.

Thx,
Stew Benedict

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Re: Second Stage Cooker Install Problems

2001-12-11 Thread Stew Benedict


On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, James O'Malley wrote:

  
  Regarding the console keys, I think I had to do something insane like
  Fn-Ctrl-F1... can't remember though. I don't have Linux installed on
  there any more so I can't check.
 
 Nope not it... tried every combo.  I think it's disabled or something,
 because I had stumbled upon it in 8.0 cooker, but this time I get nothing.
 
 No go on the power management feature too... still doesn't load.  I tried
 bumping the size the ramdisk size from 48000 to 96000 and it still doesn't
 load completely.  Without the kernel message console, I can't troubleshoot
 this either.  Doh!
 

What model powerbook is this?  You might try a text install and see if you
can at least see what's hanging.  I've done about 10 consecutive installs
using my local build and 36000 seems to be adequate.  It sounds like
something else is going on.  Also trying another kernel could be an option
to try.

The build machine is Paris is offline at the moment, but once it's up I'm
going to replace the install image with what I've been working with here.
That said, the only problems others, (including myself) have reported from
the tree on the mirrors, is the installer thinking certain packages are
bad and not installing them, giving less than desirable results at the end
of the install.
 

Stew Benedict

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Re: Second Stage Cooker Install Problems

2001-12-11 Thread James O'Malley

 What model powerbook is this?  You might try a text install and see if
 you can at least see what's hanging.  I've done about 10 consecutive
 installs using my local build and 36000 seems to be adequate.  It
 sounds like something else is going on.  Also trying another kernel
 could be an option to try.

It's a powerbook G3 firewire.  I'll try a text only install tomorrow and see
what happens.

--james






Re: Second Stage Cooker Install Problems

2001-12-10 Thread Peter R. Wood

Hello James,

I did this same install on my PowerBook G3 (Firewire) and ran into the same
problem. I believe, but have no proof, that it may have to do with the power
management built into the kernel that's used for the installer. What I did
to solve my problem was run my finger over the trackpad periodically while
the install was going on. This kept the machine from thinking it was idle,
and thus did not access the power management code (which I think was causing
it to lock up).

Regarding the console keys, I think I had to do something insane like
Fn-Ctrl-F1... can't remember though. I don't have Linux installed on there
any more so I can't check.

Like I said, it worked for me, but YMMV.

Good Luck,
Peter
- Original Message -
From: James O'Malley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: Second Stage Cooker Install Problems


 Was just wondering if there was a reason I cannot install via FTP from the
 current cooker tree?

 I have a powerbook G3 Firewire and have done the following:

 Mirrored the cooker tree (successful)
 Ran gendistib on it (successful)
 Burned a CD-RW to boot the thing (successful)
 Loaded gmac.o for network access (successful)
 Selected FTP, entered host, directory, user, password (successful)
 Started loading second stage and locked up the install program at like 90%
done.
 (I don't know how to change terminals on a mac... tried every key
 combination I could think of but I can't see the error console or whatnot)
 Is there anything I should know about the current tree?
 I'm heading home for the holidays and I don't think I can live without a
 linux box. This powerbook is my only hope *G*.

 Any word on a beta release soon?

 James







Re: Second Stage Cooker Install Problems

2001-12-10 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, James O'Malley wrote:

 Thanks, Stew.  Okay, I see that you've changed yaboot.conf's ramdisk size to
 36000... I tried to install again on my G3 Powerbook Firewire and it hung
 very near the end.   I also can't seem to get to the error console with any
 key combo.  Any ideas what I've got to press to switch consoles on a Powerbook?
 
 I figured maybe the ramdisk is still a bit too small, so I bumped it up to
 48000... and it's still a no-go.  It just hangs there forever at like 95% done.
 
 Thanks,
 James
 
 

On a Powerbook, you need to use FN also to get the real function keys.

Command-Control-FN-F2

I'm still working on the drakx problem at this end.  Are you saying the
load of stage2 stalls at 95% or the package install?

Stew Benedict

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Re: Second Stage Cooker Install Problems

2001-12-08 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, James O'Malley wrote:

 Was just wondering if there was a reason I cannot install via FTP from the
 current cooker tree?  
 
 I have a powerbook G3 Firewire and have done the following:
 
 Mirrored the cooker tree (successful)
 Ran gendistib on it (successful)
 Burned a CD-RW to boot the thing (successful)
 Loaded gmac.o for network access (successful) 
 Selected FTP, entered host, directory, user, password (successful)
 Started loading second stage and locked up the install program at like 90% done.
 (I don't know how to change terminals on a mac... tried every key
 combination I could think of but I can't see the error console or whatnot)
 Is there anything I should know about the current tree?  
 I'm heading home for the holidays and I don't think I can live without a
 linux box. This powerbook is my only hope *G*.
 
 Any word on a beta release soon?
 

There are some core problems with the drakx compile.  I saw this problem
a while back and then it cleared up for a while.  There is some subtle
interaction between glibc, rpm, and tools that causes odd behavior.
Something you might also try, as the install image has grown with the
inclusion of 3 kernels and the journalling modules is to increase the
ramdisk size to 36000, instead of 32000.  I am going to do this now on the
mirror, but I'm still trying to resolve the other issue, which causes
random packages to fail during install, when the RPM's themselves are
fine.

As for the beta ISO's - that's the goal.  I am going to burn one myself
and see if at least CD install can work.

Stew Benedict

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