Re: installer won't accept CD #2
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:19:48PM -0800, Justin Christopher wrote: > 1. The installer picked up both my ethernet and > Airport card, and offered to configure both. Great! I > chose DHCP for both of them. But when I reboot, > neither eth0 or eth1 gets an IP address from my > Airport base station. Gotta get this fixed, because > with no network connection, can't get updated RPMs. > (Windows and OS X clients get IPs from the base > station, no problem). If you're using WEP (you have a password on your airport) you'll need to install wirless_tools. You can check to see if they are installed by doing: rpm -q wireless-tools If not get the package off your CDs and install it via: rpm -Uvh wireless-tools-22-1mdk.ppc.rpm Then add these lines to your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 (I'm assuming eth1 is your airport since that's the default). WIRELESS_ESSID= WIRELESS_ENC_KEY=s: Replace with the name your airport is set to. Replace with the password you enter to get on. ifup eth1 And it should work. > 3. On x86, the installers seem to recognize that it's > a laptop and give you a battery monitor. 8.2 beta did > not. I went into the KDE control center's battery > section (Where you choose to have an icon displayed), > and it indicated that I did not have APM, and would > have to compile it. That's beyond me at this point. It > would be nice if this "just worked". Talk to the KDE people or Apple. KDE's battery monitor only works with APM. Apple doesn't use APM in Powerbooks. They use PMU. Their own power management system. Look into the pmud package. It include a battery monitor called batmon, it works. Or you can use the pmud plugin for gkrellm. > 4. Can't get into Gnome, it just dumps you back to the > login screen. Probably related to the missing packages > from the CD #2 rejection problem? Yes that's the missing libraries. > 5. Unfortunately, there is a major showstopper: on the > second reboot after the install, there was a line > about "looking for internet connections to start at > boot". It just hangs there, forever. :( Something I > did "wrong"? I doubt it would hang forever. It should die after your dhcp attempts fail. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 02:02:29PM -0800, Justin Christopher wrote: > Yeah, I thought of WEP. It's all turned off... the > wireless end of it is completely unsecured, but I > still can't get a connection. I'll try the lines you > suggest, but I'll need to reinstall first, because of > the next one... Well if you aren't using WEP those lines aren't necessary. > WRT to the startup hang on "looking for internet > connections to start at boot", I don't think it's a > DHCP hang. It's about 10 lines BELOW the lines where > DHCP fails on eth0 and eth1. I'll have to report back > with exactly what the line says, but it is definitely > far later in the boot process, long after it fails to > bring up eth0 and eth1. > > BTW I gave it about 45 minutes, it never timed out - > it stayed there 'forever'. I wonder what's doing that. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
Me too, I should have mentioned that I was able to install RPMs from disk #2 after the install, just that the installer choked on it. So the cd is definitely readable. --- Jean-Christophe Cardot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Mardi 12 Mars 2002 21:59, Ben Reser a écrit : > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:34:24PM -0800, Justin > Christopher wrote: > > > During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was > > > prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked > "ok", > > > but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and > prompts > > > me to insert disc #2. > > > > > > Eventually, I gave up and clicked "cancel". The > > > installer continued and everything else seemed > to go > > > fine. > > > > You sure your burn was good? It's possible it was > bad. Verify the > > md5sums with the ones on the mirrors against the > ones for the ISOs and > > even the CD. > > Mine was good, and I had the same problem. > (I've been installing missing packages since with > this disc with urpmi, so I > sure it's good) > > -- > Jean-Christophe "Jicé" Cardot - http://lea-linux.org > __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
Le Mardi 12 Mars 2002 21:59, Ben Reser a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:34:24PM -0800, Justin Christopher wrote: > > During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was > > prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked "ok", > > but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and prompts > > me to insert disc #2. > > > > Eventually, I gave up and clicked "cancel". The > > installer continued and everything else seemed to go > > fine. > > You sure your burn was good? It's possible it was bad. Verify the > md5sums with the ones on the mirrors against the ones for the ISOs and > even the CD. Mine was good, and I had the same problem. (I've been installing missing packages since with this disc with urpmi, so I sure it's good) -- Jean-Christophe "Jicé" Cardot - http://lea-linux.org
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
Yeah, I thought of WEP. It's all turned off... the wireless end of it is completely unsecured, but I still can't get a connection. I'll try the lines you suggest, but I'll need to reinstall first, because of the next one... WRT to the startup hang on "looking for internet connections to start at boot", I don't think it's a DHCP hang. It's about 10 lines BELOW the lines where DHCP fails on eth0 and eth1. I'll have to report back with exactly what the line says, but it is definitely far later in the boot process, long after it fails to bring up eth0 and eth1. BTW I gave it about 45 minutes, it never timed out - it stayed there 'forever'. --- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:19:48PM -0800, Justin > Christopher wrote: > > 1. The installer picked up both my ethernet and > > Airport card, and offered to configure both. > Great! I > > chose DHCP for both of them. But when I reboot, > > neither eth0 or eth1 gets an IP address from my > > Airport base station. Gotta get this fixed, > because > > with no network connection, can't get updated > RPMs. > > (Windows and OS X clients get IPs from the base > > station, no problem). > > If you're using WEP (you have a password on your > airport) you'll need to > install wirless_tools. You can check to see if they > are installed by > doing: > rpm -q wireless-tools > > If not get the package off your CDs and install it > via: > rpm -Uvh wireless-tools-22-1mdk.ppc.rpm > > Then add these lines to your > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 > (I'm assuming eth1 is your airport since that's the > default). > WIRELESS_ESSID= > WIRELESS_ENC_KEY=s: > > Replace with the name your > airport is set to. > Replace with the password you enter to > get on. > > ifup eth1 > > And it should work. > > > > 3. On x86, the installers seem to recognize that > it's > > a laptop and give you a battery monitor. 8.2 beta > did > > not. I went into the KDE control center's battery > > section (Where you choose to have an icon > displayed), > > and it indicated that I did not have APM, and > would > > have to compile it. That's beyond me at this > point. It > > would be nice if this "just worked". > > Talk to the KDE people or Apple. KDE's battery > monitor only works with > APM. Apple doesn't use APM in Powerbooks. They use > PMU. Their own > power management system. Look into the pmud > package. It include a > battery monitor called batmon, it works. Or you can > use the pmud plugin > for gkrellm. > > > 4. Can't get into Gnome, it just dumps you back to > the > > login screen. Probably related to the missing > packages > > from the CD #2 rejection problem? > > Yes that's the missing libraries. > > > 5. Unfortunately, there is a major showstopper: on > the > > second reboot after the install, there was a line > > about "looking for internet connections to start > at > > boot". It just hangs there, forever. :( > Something I > > did "wrong"? > > I doubt it would hang forever. It should die after > your dhcp attempts > fail. > > -- > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://ben.reser.org > > What difference does it make to the dead, the > orphans, and the homeless, > whether the mad destruction is wrought under the > name of totalitarianism > or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi > __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > Okay, here's my beta report from memory. There may be > a few more, I'll check when I get home. > > Let me preface this by saying that this is easily the > best Linux I've tried for PowerPC. I hope these, and > the other issues I've seen can be resolved, because > the speed puts OS X to shame, and I'll gladly pay the > $100 or whatever the suggested donation is. A LOT of > stuff seems to work. It picked up my modem, network > card, and Airport card, a USB wheel mouse, and even > the sound works! > > My system: Apple iBook2 (dual USB, 500mhz, 640 MB RAM, > Airport, 56k modem, ethernet), Mandrake 8.2 PPC Beta > > Bugs/Suggestions: > > 1. The installer picked up both my ethernet and > Airport card, and offered to configure both. Great! I > chose DHCP for both of them. But when I reboot, > neither eth0 or eth1 gets an IP address from my > Airport base station. Gotta get this fixed, because > with no network connection, can't get updated RPMs. > (Windows and OS X clients get IPs from the base > station, no problem). > As wireless becomes more mainstream on x86, I imagine this will be better addressed. There are folks using airport successfully, so I'm sure someone will chime in with what needs to be done to fix it. > 2. As reported by someone else this morning, I also > have the "palette problem" on the GUI login box. It's > pretty bad - only by having previously used it on > another system would you know where to type and click > -new users would be out of luck... Note that I believe > my system has the same video card (ATI Rage128) as the > previous poster who also has the same problem. > Noted. > 3. On x86, the installers seem to recognize that it's > a laptop and give you a battery monitor. 8.2 beta did > not. I went into the KDE control center's battery > section (Where you choose to have an icon displayed), > and it indicated that I did not have APM, and would > have to compile it. That's beyond me at this point. It > would be nice if this "just worked". > apm is an entirely different animal than power management on PPC. Pmud should have been installed, and there's a GUI app that goes with it called batmon. Support is in the kernel as installed. > 4. Can't get into Gnome, it just dumps you back to the > login screen. Probably related to the missing packages > from the CD #2 rejection problem? > known prob - missing/broken libs > 5. Unfortunately, there is a major showstopper: on the > second reboot after the install, there was a line > about "looking for internet connections to start at > boot". It just hangs there, forever. :( Something I > did "wrong"? > I'm not familiar with this message. Normally you see each interface come up, and if it's dhcp and it doesn't find a server there will be a looong timeout. > Let me know if you need me to do any testing on these > issues, I'll be happy to help if it can improve the > final product. > Thanks Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Cooker-PPC IRC: irc.openprojects.net/#cooker-ppc
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
Yeah, it looks fine. I used the same process as on disc #1. Also if I open the cd on Windows or OS X, I can see all the packages there... I don't know anything about using MD5 (although I do understand what it's for), so I'll just try re-downloading and burning again and/or wait for the next release. --- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:34:24PM -0800, Justin > Christopher wrote: > > During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was > > prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked > "ok", > > but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and > prompts > > me to insert disc #2. > > > > Eventually, I gave up and clicked "cancel". The > > installer continued and everything else seemed to > go > > fine. > > You sure your burn was good? It's possible it was > bad. Verify the > md5sums with the ones on the mirrors against the > ones for the ISOs and > even the CD. > > -- > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://ben.reser.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
Okay, here's my beta report from memory. There may be a few more, I'll check when I get home. Let me preface this by saying that this is easily the best Linux I've tried for PowerPC. I hope these, and the other issues I've seen can be resolved, because the speed puts OS X to shame, and I'll gladly pay the $100 or whatever the suggested donation is. A LOT of stuff seems to work. It picked up my modem, network card, and Airport card, a USB wheel mouse, and even the sound works! My system: Apple iBook2 (dual USB, 500mhz, 640 MB RAM, Airport, 56k modem, ethernet), Mandrake 8.2 PPC Beta Bugs/Suggestions: 1. The installer picked up both my ethernet and Airport card, and offered to configure both. Great! I chose DHCP for both of them. But when I reboot, neither eth0 or eth1 gets an IP address from my Airport base station. Gotta get this fixed, because with no network connection, can't get updated RPMs. (Windows and OS X clients get IPs from the base station, no problem). 2. As reported by someone else this morning, I also have the "palette problem" on the GUI login box. It's pretty bad - only by having previously used it on another system would you know where to type and click -new users would be out of luck... Note that I believe my system has the same video card (ATI Rage128) as the previous poster who also has the same problem. 3. On x86, the installers seem to recognize that it's a laptop and give you a battery monitor. 8.2 beta did not. I went into the KDE control center's battery section (Where you choose to have an icon displayed), and it indicated that I did not have APM, and would have to compile it. That's beyond me at this point. It would be nice if this "just worked". 4. Can't get into Gnome, it just dumps you back to the login screen. Probably related to the missing packages from the CD #2 rejection problem? 5. Unfortunately, there is a major showstopper: on the second reboot after the install, there was a line about "looking for internet connections to start at boot". It just hangs there, forever. :( Something I did "wrong"? Let me know if you need me to do any testing on these issues, I'll be happy to help if it can improve the final product. Justin --- Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Go ahead and post what you find, it may have already > been addressed, but > you may hit something new that no-one else has seen > yet. > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ > PPC FAQ: > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ > Cooker-PPC IRC: irc.openprojects.net/#cooker-ppc __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:34:24PM -0800, Justin Christopher wrote: > During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was > prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked "ok", > but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and prompts > me to insert disc #2. > > Eventually, I gave up and clicked "cancel". The > installer continued and everything else seemed to go > fine. You sure your burn was good? It's possible it was bad. Verify the md5sums with the ones on the mirrors against the ones for the ISOs and even the CD. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: installer won't accept CD #2
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > During the installation of 8.2 beta PPC, I was > prompted to insert cd #2. I did so, and clicked "ok", > but it won't accept it, it just ejects it and prompts > me to insert disc #2. > > Eventually, I gave up and clicked "cancel". The > installer continued and everything else seemed to go > fine. > > I have a list of bugs/problems to report, but I'm > hesitant to do so in detail, since some of them may be > due to missing packages that should have been > installed from the 2nd cd. > > Is there any way to 'force' it? Known > problem/workaround? I'm very interested in getting > some input in before the final version... it's the > first distribution that I could actually use. > We've had a few people mention the same issue, but I wasn't able to reproduce it here. There is a known issue on beta1 with mysql tying up the CD, with the %post script, and it's possible that has something to do with the problem. There have been a number of mentions of missing libs/packages, some due to my omitting them from the CD's, some due to the problem you mentioned. Several hundred apps have already been updated since that ISO was created, so in some respects it doesn't reflect the current state of the distribution very well. Go ahead and post what you find, it may have already been addressed, but you may hit something new that no-one else has seen yet. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Cooker-PPC IRC: irc.openprojects.net/#cooker-ppc
