Re: mol in 8.2?
On Wed, 22 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:04:32AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: > > It looks like I neglected to rebuild kmods after the 18-6mdk->18-6.1mdk, > > but if you're getting as far as you are I don't think that's the issue. > > I just tried here at 24, 15, and 16bpp (ati driver in X), and the startup > > is very slow, much longer than you would expect, and much longer than it > > was when I had mol running with 2.4.13 at LWE in January. > > Actually, I have observed a mysterious MOL slowdown when the > kernel module did not match the running kernel exactly. I strongly > recommend recompiling the kernel modules. > > If the the slowdown doesn't disappear, I would like to hear about it. > Thanks Samuel, I'm still seeing the slowdown here, but my machine is probably not a good test case as it's all cookered up right now. Here's a rebuilt mol-kmods on a clean 8.2 system against 2.4.18-6.1mdk: http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/mol-kmods-0.9.60-4.1mdk.ppc.rpm Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: mol in 8.2?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:04:32AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: > It looks like I neglected to rebuild kmods after the 18-6mdk->18-6.1mdk, > but if you're getting as far as you are I don't think that's the issue. > I just tried here at 24, 15, and 16bpp (ati driver in X), and the startup > is very slow, much longer than you would expect, and much longer than it > was when I had mol running with 2.4.13 at LWE in January. Actually, I have observed a mysterious MOL slowdown when the kernel module did not match the running kernel exactly. I strongly recommend recompiling the kernel modules. If the the slowdown doesn't disappear, I would like to hear about it. Cheers, /Samuel
Re: mol in 8.2?
Stew Benedict wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 2002, Patrick Ladam wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > Doesn't sound like the kernel is compiled with the mol module in 8.2, am i > > right? > > I have to run mol with the -a option, it launches up, I have the mac window > > opening, i > > can see the extensions loading, then the mac desktop appears and it stays glued > > here showing > > the desktop with no menu and no icons. > > Any idea? Is there an 2.4.18 kernel with mol option available somewhere. > > Should I recompile it?, > > > > It's the other way around. mol-kmods is compiled against the kernel. Oooops... > This > type of behavior has been discussed quite a bit lately on the mol list, > and I've seen it come and go with various kernels and machines. Samuel has > done some updates which seem to improve things, but I haven't rolled that > work into a new RPM. > > It looks like I neglected to rebuild kmods after the 18-6mdk->18-6.1mdk, > but if you're getting as far as you are I don't think that's the issue. > I just tried here at 24, 15, and 16bpp (ati driver in X), and the startup > is very slow, much longer than you would expect, and much longer than it > was when I had mol running with 2.4.13 at LWE in January. Video response > in MacOS is very slow too. > > I also tried using the fbdev driver at 15bpp, but the startup was about > the same. > > Aside from the slow startup it seems to be working here, with the > sheep-net networking able to view my netatalk server etc. > > I know some folks are running mol successfully, maybe they have some > tricks to share. They do. I'll work on that tonight and keep informed. Bye and thanX > > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 > IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | >>> NEW e-mail: <<< | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: mol in 8.2?
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Patrick Ladam wrote: > Hi there, > > Doesn't sound like the kernel is compiled with the mol module in 8.2, am i > right? > I have to run mol with the -a option, it launches up, I have the mac window > opening, i > can see the extensions loading, then the mac desktop appears and it stays glued > here showing > the desktop with no menu and no icons. > Any idea? Is there an 2.4.18 kernel with mol option available somewhere. > Should I recompile it?, > It's the other way around. mol-kmods is compiled against the kernel. This type of behavior has been discussed quite a bit lately on the mol list, and I've seen it come and go with various kernels and machines. Samuel has done some updates which seem to improve things, but I haven't rolled that work into a new RPM. It looks like I neglected to rebuild kmods after the 18-6mdk->18-6.1mdk, but if you're getting as far as you are I don't think that's the issue. I just tried here at 24, 15, and 16bpp (ati driver in X), and the startup is very slow, much longer than you would expect, and much longer than it was when I had mol running with 2.4.13 at LWE in January. Video response in MacOS is very slow too. I also tried using the fbdev driver at 15bpp, but the startup was about the same. Aside from the slow startup it seems to be working here, with the sheep-net networking able to view my netatalk server etc. I know some folks are running mol successfully, maybe they have some tricks to share. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: mol in 8.2?
You could also try to load an image of MacOS ROM which should work (I use MacOS 9.1). If you want I can send it to you. This should be added in the molrc file. Quentin Mason wrote: > > Hi, > > > Doesn't sound like the kernel is compiled with the mol module in 8.2, am > > i right? I have to run mol with the -a option, it launches up, I have > > the mac window opening, i can see the extensions loading, then the mac > > desktop appears and it stays glued here showing the desktop with no menu > > and no icons. Any idea? Is there an 2.4.18 kernel with mol option > > available somewhere. Should I recompile it?, > > Which version of MacOS do you have ? There is a known problem with > MOL<0.63 and MacOS 9.2.1. Also if you install MacOSX on the same > partition then that is much more difficult -- you must bless the regular > MacOS system folder after everytime that you use OSX, until Samuel > completes OSX support (almost there, apparently). The other question is > what extensions are you trying to load ?? There are some things which MOL > still cannot handle, so try booting with extensions off [press shift > during boot]. > > If you have managed to get as far as you did then the kernel module > probably should not matter -- but either way I heartily recommend getting > the most recent release as there some significant speedups to window mode > and a new keymapping tool for example. More help to be found on the > mol-user list, which recently switched over to Terra-soft: > http://www.maconlinux.net/lists/index.html > > Generally the MOL-in-a-window is much slower than in a console -- try > editting the /etc/molrc for that. > > Q.
Re: mol in 8.2?
Hi, > Doesn't sound like the kernel is compiled with the mol module in 8.2, am > i right? I have to run mol with the -a option, it launches up, I have > the mac window opening, i can see the extensions loading, then the mac > desktop appears and it stays glued here showing the desktop with no menu > and no icons. Any idea? Is there an 2.4.18 kernel with mol option > available somewhere. Should I recompile it?, Which version of MacOS do you have ? There is a known problem with MOL<0.63 and MacOS 9.2.1. Also if you install MacOSX on the same partition then that is much more difficult -- you must bless the regular MacOS system folder after everytime that you use OSX, until Samuel completes OSX support (almost there, apparently). The other question is what extensions are you trying to load ?? There are some things which MOL still cannot handle, so try booting with extensions off [press shift during boot]. If you have managed to get as far as you did then the kernel module probably should not matter -- but either way I heartily recommend getting the most recent release as there some significant speedups to window mode and a new keymapping tool for example. More help to be found on the mol-user list, which recently switched over to Terra-soft: http://www.maconlinux.net/lists/index.html Generally the MOL-in-a-window is much slower than in a console -- try editting the /etc/molrc for that. Q.
