Re: [COOT] problems with ssDNA chi angles

2009-03-05 Thread Scott Classen

Thank you!
That's exactly what I needed. I guess the randomness I was  
experiencing previously was just me randomly clicking on different  
atoms in the residue.


Scott

On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Paul Emsley wrote:


Scott Classen wrote:

Hi All,

I am trying to manually fit ssDNA. Sometime I want the base to  
remain fixed and rotate the ribose and phosphate (N1-C1*), while  
other times I want to keep the backbone fixed and rotate only the  
base. Is there some way to indicate my desire to coot? It seems to  
work the way I want every once and awhile, but it's random.


Hi Scott,

The bug I mentioned this morning may be biting you.   If not that,  
then the atom tree root is the atom you click on and the sub-trees  
are built up from that atom. i.e. when picking the residue for chi  
angle manipulation, click on a atom that you wish to remain  
stationary.


See section 5.11 of the User Manual

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~emsley/coot/doc/chapters/user-manual_5.html#SEC111

(if not that, more info is required).

Regards,

Paul.


Re: [COOT] Bring all windows to front?

2009-03-05 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia

Thanks a lot, Bill.

This xwit looks promising, I will explore it.
I keep procrastinating my immersion in zsh... Ars magna, vita brevis!


Miguel

Le 5 mars 09 à 18:19, William G. Scott a écrit :


Yo Miguel:

I wrote a little helper zsh function/shell script called xtwit.

http://zsh-templates-osx.googlecode.com/svn-history/r53/trunk/Library/init/zsh/local-functions/darwin/xtwit


It wraps the command xwit (available via fink, for example) and  
gives you a gui that allows you to select a window to pop to the  
foreground:



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My guess is xwit itself could be tailored to do exactly as you want,  
and called from a python or scheme script.


eg:

xwit version 3.4

usage: xwit -display display -sync
   -pop -iconify -unmap
   -resize w h -rows r -columns c -[r]move x y
   -[r]warp x y -colormap colormapid -[no]save
   -name name -iconname name
   -bitmap file -mask file -[r]iconmove x y
   -[no]backingstore -[no]saveunder
   -[no]keyrepeat keycode ... keycode - keycode
   -id windowid -root -current -select
   -names initialsubstrings... [must be last]

HTH,

Bill



On Mar 5, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Miguel Ortiz Lombardia wrote:


Dear all,

I have looked in the manuals but haven't found anything concerning  
the possibility of bringing all coot windows to foreground. In Mac  
versions there is an annoying feature/bug consisting in some  
windows going behind the main graphic windows and being invisible  
in Apple's Exposé, unless you happen to move your mouse over  
where they actually are. The ghost windows I call them. In this  
context, a Bring all windows to front or something similar would  
be helpful. If it would exist it would instantly become a button in  
my Menu bar...


BTW, has anyone else noticed that Sort by Date is not working?  
(again, in Mack fink coot)


Best,


Miguel
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[COOT] stereochemical violations in real space refinement?

2009-03-05 Thread Francis E Reyes

Hi all,

Just tried to submit a PDB and it seems that LEU is not correctly  
positioned (CG/CD1,CD2). I real space refined this residue, does the  
real space refinement take into account stereochemical considerations?


Thanks
FR

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Re: [COOT] stereochemical violations in real space refinement?

2009-03-05 Thread Francis E Reyes
Actually i just checked my structure with the Validate - Incorrect  
Chiral Volumes. It seems to check out OK, but the PDB doesn't like it?  
Anyone?


thanks
FR
On Mar 5, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Francis E Reyes wrote:


Hi all,

Just tried to submit a PDB and it seems that LEU is not correctly  
positioned (CG/CD1,CD2). I real space refined this residue, does the  
real space refinement take into account stereochemical considerations?


Thanks
FR

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215 UCB
University of Colorado at Boulder

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Re: [COOT] stereochemical violations in real space refinement?

2009-03-05 Thread Sheriff, Steven
Francis:



When I had a similar issue, Paul told me that one had to mutate a residue to be 
sure that the stereochemistry is correct.  Moreover, as of the last time I 
checked with Paul, COOT does look at the chiral volumes for pseudo-chiral 
centers such as Leu and Val, so it is no surprise that COOT doesn't catch it.



Try either Simple Mutate or Mutate  Auto Fit ...



Steven



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Actually i just checked my structure with the Validate - Incorrect

Chiral Volumes. It seems to check out OK, but the PDB doesn't like it?

Anyone?



thanks

FR

On Mar 5, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Francis E Reyes wrote:



 Hi all,



 Just tried to submit a PDB and it seems that LEU is not correctly

 positioned (CG/CD1,CD2). I real space refined this residue, does the

 real space refinement take into account stereochemical considerations?



 Thanks

 FR



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 215 UCB

 University of Colorado at Boulder



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Re: [COOT] stereochemical violations in real space refinement?

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Emsley
Yes (indeed), the CG of a LEU is not a chiral centre - and thus is not 
refined/optimised.  If the the CDx atoms are misassigned, then that is 
what we call a nomenclature error (I think I got the terminology from 
Refmac).


The last chi angle of  residues types TYR,  PHE, ASP and GLU used to be 
 checked  against for IUPAC convention and thus we used to see a 
nomenclature error for those residues as an outlier in the rotamer graph 
[1]. VALs and LEUs are not checked in this way for the rotamer graph.


However, there is a tool to fix nomenclature errors, and VALs and LEUs 
are checked there. Have a look in the manual about this:


http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~emsley/coot/doc/user-manual.html#SEC146

In the terminal, it will tell you all the nomenclature errors that it 
found and fixed - i.e. there is no tool in Coot that will just tell you 
about nomenclature errors without fixing them too.


This tool is not available in the GUI - it should be trivial to add an 
extension. I will make a note to do so.


Thanks,

Paul.

[1] that was before we moved to the Richardson rotamer probability 
library, that has yet to be rationalised.



Dale Tronrud wrote:

   Yes, real space refinement takes into account stereochemical
restraints, that is what all the traffic lights are about.

   What, exactly, is the PDB complaining about?  If it is the
chirality of atom CG, then you should realize that this is not
a real chiral center.  CG becomes chiral when the two CD atoms
are given numbers.  There are two ways to do it but a convention
has been adopted to make all Leu CG atoms look the same.  If
your residue is being flagged as backwards, simply edit the PDB
file and swap the numbers on the two CD atoms.

   Some programs monitor fake chiral centers but others do not.
The PDB certainly does, at least for amino acids.  Check the
labeling of oxygen atoms in phosphates if you want a scare.

   If this isn't your problem please add details.


Ha!  Have you been talking to Gert Vriend :)



Dale Tronrud

Francis E Reyes wrote:

Actually i just checked my structure with the Validate - Incorrect
Chiral Volumes. It seems to check out OK, but the PDB doesn't like it?
Anyone?

thanks
FR
On Mar 5, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Francis E Reyes wrote:


Hi all,

Just tried to submit a PDB and it seems that LEU is not correctly
positioned (CG/CD1,CD2). I real space refined this residue, does the
real space refinement take into account stereochemical considerations?

Thanks
FR