[Coworking] Re: Introduction
Hi Kelly -- I'm excited to head about your project -- it's certainly a 'global' vision to create a co-working space in the midwest!!! Having opened a space in Wisconsin, I can really echo what it is that Tara and Alex are telling you. Build your community! I wish I had gone this route :( There's a group in Milwaukee that's a great example of the early process of creating a co-working space - check out http://web414.com - they organize meet-ups, barcamps and coffee shop hops. This is how you get the momentum moving forward - get others talking to each other. Once they feel comfortable with the group, they'll WANT to work together. For Midwestern mindsets (if you consider NEO a midwestern mindset), I'm finding out this is even more critical as there are generally differing concepts of privacy, collaboration social norms compared to persons living on the coasts. Something to consider. Should you wish to chat with someone, feel free to call me. Marcus Nelson citizendesk.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Ch-Ch-Change
Agreed with Tara. We have some flexibility for our childcare side but for people using the office only, we have half day, full day, and monthly options. That's it. Most people by a 10 day pass and use when they need it. It seems to work. We have been open just over 2 months, so congrats to you. -Felicity cubescrayons coworking Just Cubes for coworkers without kids www.cubesandcrayons.com On Mar 26, 3:41 pm, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds counter-intuitive, but we found that the more 'flexible' we made a membership, the less people were likely to use them. Now we have two memberships: you have desk or you are a drop-in. :) Our desks are all full and we have a waiting list. T On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We (Station C) have been open for nearly 2 months and we're wondering if maybe a change in our plan structure would make sense. I'll detail them further down this message -- and our new idea -- and you can give me your opinion based on those details but my basic question would be: most of you don't offer hourly plans for desks. Why? Right now we have resident members who have a reserved desk and full time access ($330/month), we'll keep those. We also have Flex 14 and Flex 28 memberships who pay $143 and $236 a month for 14 and 28 hours a week between 9am and 6pm, to be booked online (through email currently). Flex signups are a bit slower than expected (although we have more residents so we are a bit ahead of estimates overall) so we're thinking of retooling the Flex plans to Flex Points where members would buy bundles of points, something like 200 at $3.25/pt and use them whenever, again booked online, expiring after 6 months. 1 point for one desk hour, tbd number of points for meeting and conference room hours. We would also have smaller and larger bundles but the 200 would give members something similar to our current Flex 14 with the added bonus of more freedom, of skipping a week for a vacation or coming every day when in crunch mode. Space isn't an issue, logistics neither since we have the webapp for booking in the works anyway. The big disadvantage for us would be no recurrent cash entry or at least more spreadout and maybe more uncertain renewals as well as, in theory, the potential for more booking conflicts if everyone crunches at the same time. The big advantage would be for members who don't have to worry wetter they'll use 14 hours every week, the setup would be even more flexible for them. We would be gambling' that more flexibility and simplicity means more members and if we're right everyone would be happy. Last thing; we are also considering expanding business hours nights and saturday. Thoughts? Questions? Thx Patrick http://station-c.com -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog:www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
I'm lucky, next door is a major ISP in Rochester, Netsville - so I have a 100Mb drop for pennies. Router wise I'm using an Airport Extreme but think I need something a bit better at segregating / managing traffic - we still haven't setup VoIP phones yet and I want to make sure they're not going to slog the whole network etc (but I'm also not IT guy enough to know how)... hopefully a fellow coworker here can assist me :) -dm On Mar 26, 3:46 pm, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for $130/month you can't touch it. -Alex On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those unicorn videos At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. Jacob Sayles Co-founder Janitor http://officenomads.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are gathered. Tara On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet access for coworking spaces. What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten ISPs to sponsor? thanks Matthew -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog:www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual:www.round3media.com|www.dangerouslyawesome.com local:www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: South London (Battersea?) Coworking Space
This isn't coworking, this is MS coworking Looks beautiful. If you're down Brighton way, give us a shout at The Werks. James On 24 Mar 2008, at 09:34, webponce wrote: D'oh! As is always the way, the minute you reach out for help, you solve the problem yourself: http://www.lebu.biz/ Note to the space providers: couldn't find you in Google! :) Matthew. On Mar 24, 9:27 am, webponce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys My name is matthew knight, i'm currently a technical lead at a digital agency in london, but will be leaving in a few months and want to start looking for coworking spaces to work as a freelancer in. I've been a subscriber for quite a while, as I'm really interested in helping out starting up a space too, but in the mean time, want to get busy just using them. I seem to remember mention of a coworking space starting up in battersea/clapham in SW London (i think it was on/near lavender hill), but i have googled with no avail. Does anyone in the London set remember this being posted, or have a URL i can visit? thanks! matthew. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Ch-Ch-Change
Patrick We spent a lot of time thinking about our structure and as Alex has said, lots of talk of models has gone on. I think there are several dimensions in play here that should be taken into consideration; What are the working patterns of your clients / prospective clients Where do they fit on a Need Flexibility --- + Need to Belong kind of scale What prices make people come out of their home office starbucks without it becoming a I paid for it so I MUST use it guilt trip And finally the Peter Krug factor: how quickly can what's on offer be clearly understood We puzzled over these, but mostly we just opened up regularly which (by accident more than design) allowed us to observe these things interacting. In the end I came up with 3 models that seem to work for us; They are in the licence here: https://coworking.pbwiki.com/Licences+and+Agreements James On 26 Mar 2008, at 22:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We (Station C) have been open for nearly 2 months and we're wondering if maybe a change in our plan structure would make sense. I'll detail them further down this message -- and our new idea -- and you can give me your opinion based on those details but my basic question would be: most of you don't offer hourly plans for desks. Why? Right now we have resident members who have a reserved desk and full time access ($330/month), we'll keep those. We also have Flex 14 and Flex 28 memberships who pay $143 and $236 a month for 14 and 28 hours a week between 9am and 6pm, to be booked online (through email currently). Flex signups are a bit slower than expected (although we have more residents so we are a bit ahead of estimates overall) so we're thinking of retooling the Flex plans to Flex Points where members would buy bundles of points, something like 200 at $3.25/pt and use them whenever, again booked online, expiring after 6 months. 1 point for one desk hour, tbd number of points for meeting and conference room hours. We would also have smaller and larger bundles but the 200 would give members something similar to our current Flex 14 with the added bonus of more freedom, of skipping a week for a vacation or coming every day when in crunch mode. Space isn't an issue, logistics neither since we have the webapp for booking in the works anyway. The big disadvantage for us would be no recurrent cash entry or at least more spreadout and maybe more uncertain renewals as well as, in theory, the potential for more booking conflicts if everyone crunches at the same time. The big advantage would be for members who don't have to worry wetter they'll use 14 hours every week, the setup would be even more flexible for them. We would be gambling' that more flexibility and simplicity means more members and if we're right everyone would be happy. Last thing; we are also considering expanding business hours nights and saturday. Thoughts? Questions? Thx Patrick http://station-c.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Hello, My Name is Erich
I live and work in central Indiana and am interested in co-working. As a computer repairman by day and a designer by night, I'm interested in having a place to go during the day where I can work for a tad, then cut out if I need to, or a place to go in the evenings to work or chill out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Sample Membership Agreements?
I popped a copy of ours which borrows heavily from independents hall and citizen space. I added a page that gives a clear lowdown on what coworking is all about (thanks Citizen space web site) and tweaked Alex's contract to suite a UK environment and to support the 3 options we are operating. https://coworking.pbwiki.com/Licences-and-Agreements I started a page there, hope it isn't messing up the wiki structure, I just couldn't work out where to post it. There are word and pages versions if anybody wants a copy in either format just drop me a note. Cheers James On 25 Mar 2008, at 23:21, Dave G wrote: Thanks for the help folks, I'll try to make better use of that in the future. On Mar 25, 9:11 am, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, I found the agreement in the Files section extremely useful as a template. Obviously there were some things that needed to changing since our group isn't an existing business. Generally though it was a good place to start. INAL, but it is generally a good idea to have a contract over a simple application. It is basically required for me to be in such a space while working on projects that have Non- disclosures. Jason On Mar 25, 12:51 am, Hillary Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been discussed quite a bit in this group. Give the search a whirl and see what you can find. Also, there is at least one sample agreement in the Files section: http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/files Hillary On Mar 24, 12:36 am, Dave G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning, I've found a few spaces I've become interested in, calling offices later on in the day. For those of you who have successfully started coworking locales, what are some of the terms and conditions you include in your agreements for members? Do you include a contract as part of the application process, or is it simply an application individuals fill out, pay their dues and they receive a key? Thanks, Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for $130/month you can't touch it. -Alex On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those unicorn videos At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. Jacob Sayles Co-founder Janitor http://officenomads.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are gathered. Tara On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet access for coworking spaces. What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten ISPs to sponsor? thanks Matthew -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
This is a huge help. Looks like Speakeasy is the way to go and luckily they service Houston (or at least our part of Houston). Looking forward to testing out all the the router/repeater solutions out there. Thanks Tara, Jacob and Alex On Mar 26, 2:46 pm, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for $130/month you can't touch it. -Alex On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those unicorn videos At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. Jacob Sayles Co-founder Janitor http://officenomads.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are gathered. Tara On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet access for coworking spaces. What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten ISPs to sponsor? thanks Matthew -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog:www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual:www.round3media.com|www.dangerouslyawesome.com local:www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Ch-Ch-Change
I would be interested in a worksite being available at night for those of us trying to carve out a moonlighting career in the evening. I also work out of my home a lot on weekends so I would want the site to be open on weekends too. On Mar 26, 6:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We (Station C) have been open for nearly 2 months and we're wondering if maybe a change in our plan structure would make sense. I'll detail them further down this message -- and our new idea -- and you can give me your opinion based on those details but my basic question would be: most of you don't offer hourly plans for desks. Why? Right now we have resident members who have a reserved desk and full time access ($330/month), we'll keep those. We also have Flex 14 and Flex 28 memberships who pay $143 and $236 a month for 14 and 28 hours a week between 9am and 6pm, to be booked online (through email currently). Flex signups are a bit slower than expected (although we have more residents so we are a bit ahead of estimates overall) so we're thinking of retooling the Flex plans to Flex Points where members would buy bundles of points, something like 200 at $3.25/pt and use them whenever, again booked online, expiring after 6 months. 1 point for one desk hour, tbd number of points for meeting and conference room hours. We would also have smaller and larger bundles but the 200 would give members something similar to our current Flex 14 with the added bonus of more freedom, of skipping a week for a vacation or coming every day when in crunch mode. Space isn't an issue, logistics neither since we have the webapp for booking in the works anyway. The big disadvantage for us would be no recurrent cash entry or at least more spreadout and maybe more uncertain renewals as well as, in theory, the potential for more booking conflicts if everyone crunches at the same time. The big advantage would be for members who don't have to worry wetter they'll use 14 hours every week, the setup would be even more flexible for them. We would be gambling' that more flexibility and simplicity means more members and if we're right everyone would be happy. Last thing; we are also considering expanding business hours nights and saturday. Thoughts? Questions? Thx Patrick http://station-c.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Ch-Ch-Change
On 26 Mar 2008, at 22:41, Tara Hunt wrote: It sounds counter-intuitive, but we found that the more 'flexible' we made a membership, the less people were likely to use them. Now we have two memberships: you have desk or you are a drop-in. :) Our desks are all full and we have a waiting list. +1 on this, I found the greater flexibility is in removing the need for coworkers to have to think too hard about what option and payments etc they have to choose so we settled on 3 offerings; Day Tripper: occasional and only during standard office hours (which is pretty lax in Brighton). No fee, but it is nice if you put something back in (whether in kind, a donation or just helping out another coworker). Regular Joe: 2-3 times a week during standard office hours. Paid subscription a month in advance $120 + Tax (60 GBP). Early Bird / Night Owl: 3-4 times a week, need to come and go outside of standard office hours, get own keys. Paid subscription $200 + Tax (100 GBP) plus key deposit $100. We don't track their time in detail it just adds overhead for us and the members, the easiest way is to trust to people honour and it is easy to spot if somebody is abusing the system. With a couple of regular standing subscriptions people know what they are paying, know the deal and don't have to spend any additional time during the month thinking about what they are paying for coworking, the more choices you give people, the more time they have to spend thinking about which choice they are going to make. So in a nutshell, I say, condense things down to the simplest couple of choices that people can make once a month or even offer 3 or 6 month subscriptions and then add to that flexibility so people don't feel they have to closely track their usage. James T On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We (Station C) have been open for nearly 2 months and we're wondering if maybe a change in our plan structure would make sense. I'll detail them further down this message -- and our new idea -- and you can give me your opinion based on those details but my basic question would be: most of you don't offer hourly plans for desks. Why? Right now we have resident members who have a reserved desk and full time access ($330/month), we'll keep those. We also have Flex 14 and Flex 28 memberships who pay $143 and $236 a month for 14 and 28 hours a week between 9am and 6pm, to be booked online (through email currently). Flex signups are a bit slower than expected (although we have more residents so we are a bit ahead of estimates overall) so we're thinking of retooling the Flex plans to Flex Points where members would buy bundles of points, something like 200 at $3.25/pt and use them whenever, again booked online, expiring after 6 months. 1 point for one desk hour, tbd number of points for meeting and conference room hours. We would also have smaller and larger bundles but the 200 would give members something similar to our current Flex 14 with the added bonus of more freedom, of skipping a week for a vacation or coming every day when in crunch mode. Space isn't an issue, logistics neither since we have the webapp for booking in the works anyway. The big disadvantage for us would be no recurrent cash entry or at least more spreadout and maybe more uncertain renewals as well as, in theory, the potential for more booking conflicts if everyone crunches at the same time. The big advantage would be for members who don't have to worry wetter they'll use 14 hours every week, the setup would be even more flexible for them. We would be gambling' that more flexibility and simplicity means more members and if we're right everyone would be happy. Last thing; we are also considering expanding business hours nights and saturday. Thoughts? Questions? Thx Patrick http://station-c.com -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an issue, it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make sure you're not web-serving over fios. But reselling bandwidth, which to some degree you are doing, MAY be against TOS. 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously jealous of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia yet. Bugger. Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle a pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for $130/month you can't touch it. -Alex On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those unicorn videos At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. Jacob Sayles Co-founder Janitor http://officenomads.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are gathered. Tara On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet access for coworking spaces. What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten ISPs to sponsor? thanks Matthew -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] More Seattle Press
Big News! This month we find ourselves in TWO magazines. Seattle Metropolitan Magazine is doing a feature on the 14 hottest companies and they name Susan and I Laudable Leaders. We look so cute! Then The Seattle Business Monthly is sporting a nice shot of our first member Chris Haddad on the cover and inside there's a large article on Smart Office Ideas. They talk about us, another Seattle office My Day Office, and Tacoma's Suite 133. They also briefly mention Nutopia crediting them with the first space back in 1999. Interesting. Neither article is up on the websites yet... guess it's not quite April. Not sure if they will post full articles or not since they are all about print. Maybe I'll post some PDFs. Anyway, I wanted to share. Crazy fun. Jacob Sayles Office Nomads --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Sample Membership Agreements?
James, thank you for sharing this - it's great and good to see it in the UK context :) ll On 27/03/2008, James McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I popped a copy of ours which borrows heavily from independents hall and citizen space. I added a page that gives a clear lowdown on what coworking is all about (thanks Citizen space web site) and tweaked Alex's contract to suite a UK environment and to support the 3 options we are operating. https://coworking.pbwiki.com/Licences-and-Agreements I started a page there, hope it isn't messing up the wiki structure, I just couldn't work out where to post it. There are word and pages versions if anybody wants a copy in either format just drop me a note. Cheers James On 25 Mar 2008, at 23:21, Dave G wrote: Thanks for the help folks, I'll try to make better use of that in the future. On Mar 25, 9:11 am, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, I found the agreement in the Files section extremely useful as a template. Obviously there were some things that needed to changing since our group isn't an existing business. Generally though it was a good place to start. INAL, but it is generally a good idea to have a contract over a simple application. It is basically required for me to be in such a space while working on projects that have Non- disclosures. Jason On Mar 25, 12:51 am, Hillary Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been discussed quite a bit in this group. Give the search a whirl and see what you can find. Also, there is at least one sample agreement in the Files section: http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/files Hillary On Mar 24, 12:36 am, Dave G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning, I've found a few spaces I've become interested in, calling offices later on in the day. For those of you who have successfully started coworking locales, what are some of the terms and conditions you include in your agreements for members? Do you include a contract as part of the application process, or is it simply an application individuals fill out, pay their dues and they receive a key? Thanks, Dave -- Lloyd Davis Perfect Path Consulting Ltd Helping people be brilliant in the knowledge economy http://www.perfectpath.co.uk/ http://tinyurl.com/2zejjs to subscribe to my blog by e-mail http://feeds.feedburner.com/PerfectPath to subscribe to my blog by RSS Call me: +44 (0)79191 82825 Skype me: perfectpath Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/LloydDavis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Ch-Ch-Change
It's a great issue, Patrick. Thanks for posting about it. It's important to ensure all of your potential members have a minimum barrier to entry. For us, wanting people to feel welcome also came with the sense that we don't want people to worry about their time here - we want them to focus on what they're here for - work (ok and community, but I'm focused on a point :)). So making them track hours or days/week didn't work for us - we have a very simple monthly or daily option. I think the important question to ask yourself is how much time management YOU want to be responsible for - do you want to have to manage the time of all of your members? Do you mind having to keep track of all of their time? Make sure you keep in mind the effect that changing your structure will have on you as the managers - it is nearly as important as the effect on your members. Keeping yourself sane in the madness that is starting your own space is key. The idea of punchcards makes life easy and keeps things flexible for members - puts the onus on them for knowing how much time (hours/days/ months) they've spent. I'd consider that as an option. As for evening/weekend hours, the way we take care of that is to give monthly members 24/7 access to the space. They get keycards and can let themselves in during off-hours. We have a process (albeit a developing one) and a little bit of paperwork in place to ensure that we are comfortable with the monthly members in the space, but the benefit of giving them full access is that we don't have to manage their time. The only hours we need to focus on are the 8:30 am - 6 pm hours we keep open for drop-ins. Pretty simple! Doesn't mean we're not here on nights and weekends, but in terms of managed time at the space, it is nice and regular for us. Good luck, and congrats on your first 2 months! Susan On Mar 27, 5:15 am, James McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Mar 2008, at 22:41, Tara Hunt wrote: It sounds counter-intuitive, but we found that the more 'flexible' we made a membership, the less people were likely to use them. Now we have two memberships: you have desk or you are a drop-in. :) Our desks are all full and we have a waiting list. +1 on this, I found the greater flexibility is in removing the need for coworkers to have to think too hard about what option and payments etc they have to choose so we settled on 3 offerings; Day Tripper: occasional and only during standard office hours (which is pretty lax in Brighton). No fee, but it is nice if you put something back in (whether in kind, a donation or just helping out another coworker). Regular Joe: 2-3 times a week during standard office hours. Paid subscription a month in advance $120 + Tax (60 GBP). Early Bird / Night Owl: 3-4 times a week, need to come and go outside of standard office hours, get own keys. Paid subscription $200 + Tax (100 GBP) plus key deposit $100. We don't track their time in detail it just adds overhead for us and the members, the easiest way is to trust to people honour and it is easy to spot if somebody is abusing the system. With a couple of regular standing subscriptions people know what they are paying, know the deal and don't have to spend any additional time during the month thinking about what they are paying for coworking, the more choices you give people, the more time they have to spend thinking about which choice they are going to make. So in a nutshell, I say, condense things down to the simplest couple of choices that people can make once a month or even offer 3 or 6 month subscriptions and then add to that flexibility so people don't feel they have to closely track their usage. James T On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We (Station C) have been open for nearly 2 months and we're wondering if maybe a change in our plan structure would make sense. I'll detail them further down this message -- and our new idea -- and you can give me your opinion based on those details but my basic question would be: most of you don't offer hourly plans for desks. Why? Right now we have resident members who have a reserved desk and full time access ($330/month), we'll keep those. We also have Flex 14 and Flex 28 memberships who pay $143 and $236 a month for 14 and 28 hours a week between 9am and 6pm, to be booked online (through email currently). Flex signups are a bit slower than expected (although we have more residents so we are a bit ahead of estimates overall) so we're thinking of retooling the Flex plans to Flex Points where members would buy bundles of points, something like 200 at $3.25/pt and use them whenever, again booked online, expiring after 6 months. 1 point for one desk hour, tbd number of points for meeting and conference room hours. We would also have smaller and larger bundles but the 200 would give members something similar to
[Coworking] Re: Introduction
Yay Kelly! Welcome to the wild world of coworking - we're glad to have you here! On Mar 26, 6:33 am, Kelly Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, My name is kelly brown. I recently did an interview with Susan Evans @ Office Nomads for my blog / podcast (www.small-business-guru.com-- if you're interested in listening). She's got some great insight that i found very helpful. Anyway -- I'm now very excited about opening a space locally in North East Ohio. As I research this more and more - I'm interested in finding out as much as i can about the demographics of the co-working contingent. NEO is not NY it's not Seattle -- so while I and a couple of friends would love to open one up -- i'm not sure what the baseline is for average salary, square feet allocated / charged per month, how may people rent monthly vs. daily, how big of a city population would support a 30 person+ sized facility. All that stuff -- i've got tons and tons of questions and plan to scour the forums. I'd LOVE speak or exchange emails with anyone who's opened their own facility and get the 'low down.' Ohhh - I also read i should post personal info about myself so here it is: I've been writing about entrepreneurial issues for a little over a year now for my blog (Small Business Guru). i just kind of stumbled on Susan through Biznik as I do regular interviews with successful business owners. i love talking and learning about business. My background is as a CPA -- i'm currently an executive (COO / Marketing Director) w/a small publishing firm in Canton Ohio. I've been married for 6 years to wonderfully hot chick named Heidi. Despite my girly name - I'm a dude. We have a daughter (well her daughter - my step daughter) and two dogs -- Bubba Chip. I'd love to get a co-working facility going locally provided i can get enough critical mass to support it. -kb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction
Welcome Kelly! There're a handful of us not far from you (Columbus) also trying to start a space. Right now, we're doing casual coworking sessions on Fridays. Following on excellent advice from this group (Alex Hillman in particular) we're working on building our community while the space and other details work themselves out. We're about three weeks in at this point, and it's been a lot of fun. Check out these smiling faces: http://www.flickr.com/groups/corkboard/ If you can get a Friday away, I really encourage you to come down and meet with us. We can offer support and encouragement, at the least. More info here: http://corkboardcolumb.us http://coworking.pbwiki.com/CoworkingColumbus Best regards, Bryce --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction
I really love this corkboard idea! I think we'll start one as well, along with some member bios in the near future. Keep on rocking! -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Bryce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome Kelly! There're a handful of us not far from you (Columbus) also trying to start a space. Right now, we're doing casual coworking sessions on Fridays. Following on excellent advice from this group (Alex Hillman in particular) we're working on building our community while the space and other details work themselves out. We're about three weeks in at this point, and it's been a lot of fun. Check out these smiling faces: http://www.flickr.com/groups/corkboard/ If you can get a Friday away, I really encourage you to come down and meet with us. We can offer support and encouragement, at the least. More info here: http://corkboardcolumb.us http://coworking.pbwiki.com/CoworkingColumbus Best regards, Bryce -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction
This is a great idea... I was just struggling with this continuing issue at CooBric, because two people who I had not previously seen were heading down to the cafe, and I couldn't be there-- and I had no easy way of connecting them to each other. This would be a helpful way of them finding each other. I'm also starting to look at ways we can use Twitter, Meebo, and stickers to address it. It would be awfully convenient if I could walk into a cafe and simply look for people with a starfish logo sticker on their laptops... anywhere in the world :-) On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really love this corkboard idea! I think we'll start one as well, along with some member bios in the near future. Keep on rocking! -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Bryce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome Kelly! There're a handful of us not far from you (Columbus) also trying to start a space. Right now, we're doing casual coworking sessions on Fridays. Following on excellent advice from this group (Alex Hillman in particular) we're working on building our community while the space and other details work themselves out. We're about three weeks in at this point, and it's been a lot of fun. Check out these smiling faces: http://www.flickr.com/groups/corkboard/ If you can get a Friday away, I really encourage you to come down and meet with us. We can offer support and encouragement, at the least. More info here: http://corkboardcolumb.us http://coworking.pbwiki.com/CoworkingColumbus Best regards, Bryce -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
Very good points, Alex.. adding this to my list of questions for vendors! I should probably start a new thread, but I am playing around with multiple ideas for phone systems. I want to offer phone service and vm that is easily set up on the fly like Cisco Call Manager and Unity - only because i expect more business clients that will need it (and plus it is something I already know how to maintain lol). The Media market is like that. It's a pretty large expense initially, but I am thinking that it will save me money in the long run. Who is doing what with their phone systems? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an issue, it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make sure you're not web-serving over fios. But reselling bandwidth, which to some degree you are doing, MAY be against TOS. 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously jealous of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia yet. Bugger. Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle a pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for $130/month you can't touch it. -Alex On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those unicorn videos At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. Jacob Sayles Co-founder Janitor http://officenomads.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are gathered. Tara On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet access for coworking spaces. What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten ISPs to sponsor? thanks Matthew -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
When it comes to systems like these...my advice is to not overplan without talking to potential users. Why spend money on a system to find out that your business clients prefer using their own cell phones instead? We found that out as we were getting potential members together and as such, we did not spend any money on phone systems (with the exception of a couple of user-provided VOIP boxes). Bottom line, research so you know what your options are, but I wouldn't drop coin on it until you are confident you need it! 2c Alex Hillman, IndyHall On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Lisa Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very good points, Alex.. adding this to my list of questions for vendors! I should probably start a new thread, but I am playing around with multiple ideas for phone systems. I want to offer phone service and vm that is easily set up on the fly like Cisco Call Manager and Unity - only because i expect more business clients that will need it (and plus it is something I already know how to maintain lol). The Media market is like that. It's a pretty large expense initially, but I am thinking that it will save me money in the long run. Who is doing what with their phone systems? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an issue, it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make sure you're not web-serving over fios. But reselling bandwidth, which to some degree you are doing, MAY be against TOS. 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously jealous of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia yet. Bugger. Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle a pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for $130/month you can't touch it. -Alex On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those unicorn videos At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. Jacob Sayles Co-founder Janitor http://officenomads.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are gathered. Tara On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet access for coworking spaces. What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten ISPs to sponsor? thanks Matthew -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman
[Coworking] Re: Personal Introduction
Jason! More details! Please! :) T On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:07 AM, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matt all, We have one person as a member of our group who is not on the creative side. He is actually a logistics manager and manufacturing sales rep. Let me tell you though, those skills are much needed in a creative environment. His ability to negotiate lease details and other essentials have saved us a lot in up front costs. He is also very cool and enjoys being part of a creative group. I would go for the entrepreneurial spirit trait more than just creative. Also some creative folks would don't get the coworking thing at all. The question they pose is how am I going to make money doing this? Any good answers to that question? On a positive note, the Doylestown, PA coworking group will be officially opening our doors on April 4th! Jason On Mar 24, 1:14 am, Matt, Balu, and Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felicity, Funny - we have to accept that a diverse crowd may include people who are less on the creative end. Isn't that wierd? Matt On Mar 21, 11:58 pm, felicity at cubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey there, Agreed with Alex. I think this coworking is more about people selecting for the coworking lifestiyle versus necessarily techies. I think you can end up with a very diverse crowd, as we have, depending on your market and connections. Look forward to hearing how the business plan goes and your progress. All the best, Felicity CubesCrayons www,cubesandcrayons.com photos:http://www.flickr.com/groups/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ On Mar 21, 5:49 am, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, Balu, and Java, I'm looking forward to hearing more about your proposed model, since we often discuss so many different types of models on the list and on the wiki. I'm especially excited to see what develops since you've mentioned a relatively non-IT crowd that you're catering to. We've spoken before about how this scene tends to be predominately tech and creative, but I've maintained that the common thread tends to be entrepreneurship in genreal. Good luck, and looking forward to hearing more! Cheers, Alex On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Matt, Balu, and Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, My name is Matt and I'm new to the group, but not that new to coworking. We had a great shared space (for CS students) at the University of Colorado. Complete with pungent but o-so-comfortable furniture that I must admit I have slept on. The Colorado space was neat because it surfaced many of the issues that coworkers face, like tiering, resource allocation, making sure people pay for their generic grape pop, etc. I am now writing a business plan around the concept. I've entered it in the 2008 Shocker Business Plan Competition, here in Wichita. Wichita is very entrepreneurially minded but not too heavy on IT etc. so I have to adapt some ideas to make them fit. I see a strong need for community (currently filled by cafes and lectures at the Devlin Center for Entrepreneurship), but I am definitely trying to go beyond break-even! I'm willing to share my thinking though, and get and give feedback. Salutations, Matt, Balu, and Java (the labs) -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual:www.round3media.com|www.dangerouslyawesome.com local:www.indyhall.org -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: More Seattle Press
Jacob, Great! Congratulations! I'd love to read the articles when they come out. Todd On Mar 27, 10:41 am, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big News! This month we find ourselves in TWO magazines. Seattle Metropolitan Magazine is doing a feature on the 14 hottest companies and they name Susan and I Laudable Leaders. We look so cute! Then The Seattle Business Monthly is sporting a nice shot of our first member Chris Haddad on the cover and inside there's a large article on Smart Office Ideas. They talk about us, another Seattle office My Day Office, and Tacoma's Suite 133. They also briefly mention Nutopia crediting them with the first space back in 1999. Interesting. Neither article is up on the websites yet... guess it's not quite April. Not sure if they will post full articles or not since they are all about print. Maybe I'll post some PDFs. Anyway, I wanted to share. Crazy fun. Jacob Sayles Office Nomads --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: More Seattle Press
Jacob, We just received a copy of Seattle Business Monthly and it's a good story. Unfortunately, SBM only posts excerpts of articles on their website. Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/33cexv Derek Young Suite133 On 3/27/08 3:45 PM, Todd Sundsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacob, Great! Congratulations! I'd love to read the articles when they come out. Todd On Mar 27, 10:41 am, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big News! This month we find ourselves in TWO magazines. Seattle Metropolitan Magazine is doing a feature on the 14 hottest companies and they name Susan and I Laudable Leaders. We look so cute! Then The Seattle Business Monthly is sporting a nice shot of our first member Chris Haddad on the cover and inside there's a large article on Smart Office Ideas. They talk about us, another Seattle office My Day Office, and Tacoma's Suite 133. They also briefly mention Nutopia crediting them with the first space back in 1999. Interesting. Neither article is up on the websites yet... guess it's not quite April. Not sure if they will post full articles or not since they are all about print. Maybe I'll post some PDFs. Anyway, I wanted to share. Crazy fun. Jacob Sayles Office Nomads --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
