[css-d] position:relative

2006-12-26 Thread Raghavender Srimantula
I have a table with html code
style
div.scroll
{
height:150px;
overflow:auto;
}
table.scrollable th
{
position:relative;
}
/style
div class=scroll
table class=scrollable
theadtrtdheading1/tdtdheading2/tdtdheading3/td/tr/thead
tbody
trtdvalue1/tdtdvalue2/tdtdvalue3/td/tr
//repeated 100 times
/tbody
/table
/div
this gives me a nice scrollable table with a fixed header. This is a stand 
alone.
When I include the same code in my jsp file, I get a scroll bar, but my header 
is not fixed. My jsp respects the overflow:auto attribute, but does not 
respect the position:relative attribute. 
I did not add the standard !doctype here, but its there in my code.
any help?
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Re: [css-d] position:relative

2006-12-26 Thread David Dorward
On 26/12/06, Raghavender Srimantula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 this gives me a nice scrollable table with a fixed header. This is a stand 
 alone.
 When I include the same code in my jsp file, I get a scroll bar, but my 
 header is not
 fixed. My jsp respects the overflow:auto attribute, but does not respect the
 position:relative attribute.

The problem cannot be because the page is being generated by JSP.

In summary:

The code example I snipped works, but you don't say if that was the
complete example or if there was any other code involved for your
testing, nor do you say which browsers you tested it in.

Another code example, which you haven't provided, doesn't work, but
you don't say what it does do, or what browsers you tested it in.

 I did not add the standard !doctype here, but its there in my code.

In what code? The real test code that works? The final page which doesn't work?

I think you need to provide more information, and complete examples of
the problematic and working code (preferably in URL form).

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Re: [css-d] position:relative

2006-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Raghavender Srimantula wrote:
 [... code ...]

 this gives me a nice scrollable table with a fixed header. This is a
  stand alone.

The use of 'overflow: auto' / 'position: relative' may, or may not, give
you a fixed table header across browser-land. Especially unclear in
IE/win, where 'R:P' can be used to simulate 'position: fixed/absolute'
when combined with 'overflow'.

The standardized use of 'position: relative' is for stacking (with a
z-index) and for offsetting an element from its original position
without affecting the space taken in its original position. Thus, no
standardized 'fixing-effect'.

 When I include the same code in my jsp file, I get a scroll bar, but 
 my header is not fixed. My jsp respects the overflow:auto 
 attribute, but does not respect the position:relative attribute.

It's impossible to figure out exactly why something doesn't work as
expected, without seeing the complete document/code those browsers are
supposed to handle. We need a link to the actual document.

'Position: absolute' is supposed to fix an element's position relative
to a container...
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#choose-position

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Re: [css-d] position:relative

2006-12-26 Thread Rainer Wagener
Raghavender Srimantula wrote:

 [... some code ...]
 this gives me a nice scrollable table with a fixed header.
 This is a stand alone.
 When I include the same code in my jsp file, I get a
 scroll bar, but my header is not fixed. My jsp respects
 the overflow:auto attribute, but does not respect the
 position:relative attribute.

 I did not add the standard !doctype here, but its
 there in my code.
 any help?

Given your example I can only guess:

Maybe your jsp adds some XML or other comment prior to the standard
doctype declaration. This would put IE into quirks mode and keep the
header from staying fixed.

But this is only guessing.


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[css-d] mac/ie5.2 float drop

2006-12-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Browsercam http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=310474 shows 
right column  float drop on this page http://tinyurl.com/ww9gb at 1280.
Suggestions for correction appreciated.
Thanks.
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[css-d] opera or FF rtl bug

2006-12-26 Thread Ido Dekkers
which of the above has the bug :
http://test.dekkers.net/test.aspx

the logo and 2 other images display correct in FF(2,3) but not in 
Opera(latest)

Thanks
Ido
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[css-d] Misbehaving Coloured bands

2006-12-26 Thread Phil Holt
Hello Everyone

I'm hoping you can help me solve this issue, which I think is IE related...

http://www.cottonliving.co.uk/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=2

Please check out the above page and you will see that the coloured band
above the image is not positioning properly. The two rules I added to my
stylesheet to control the band are as follows:-

/* This rule controls the display of the image/column in the repeating
list*/

#MyProductList_MyList {

position: relative;

width: 200px;

}



/* This rule was intended to make the coloured band stick to the same
position as the image */

#MyProductList_MyList .attention {

position: absolute;

float:left;

width: 200px;

font-size: 16px;

color: #fff;

background-color:#d31a4f;


}


The full stylesheet can be found here:-

http://www.cottonliving.co.uk/styles/cottonliving.css


It has the desired effect in Firefox but not in IE.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Cheers
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Re: [css-d] opera or FF rtl bug

2006-12-26 Thread Ian Young

 Subject: [css-d] opera or FF rtl bug


 which of the above has the bug :
 http://test.dekkers.net/test.aspx

 the logo and 2 other images display correct in FF(2,3) but not in
 Opera(latest)


Only works in FF. IE doesn't work either.

quick suggest is to define the left margin. That seems to fix the logo
positioning.

Also need to move all the links to centre of logo as they sit on top of
image.

IE6 doesn't render the images at all - no transparency.

Happy Xmas!!

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Re: [css-d] Misbehaving Coloured bands

2006-12-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Phil Holt wrote:
 I'm hoping you can help me solve this issue, which I think is IE related...

 http://www.cottonliving.co.uk/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=2

 Please check out the above page and you will see that the coloured band
 above the image is not positioning properly. The two rules I added to my
 stylesheet to control the band are as follows:-
   
[trimmed]

 Phil

   
Have you tried deleting position: absolute; from ruleset 
#MyProductList_MyList .attention {...}?
Regards,
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Re: [css-d] Why does IE 7 render div margin wrongly?

2006-12-26 Thread Jeroen
On 12/24/06, francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 H(o)i Jeroen,
 While the question is answered yet, I've some other css philosophical
 remarks.
 Translating a painted design (illustration) to css has it's pitfalls,
 because paper and screen are 2 ways of thinking!

 * See: 'The Graphical Designer and the CSS Zen Guru' story
   http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/guru-1.htm

 In your case, there is a fixed area for the content part by means of the
 background image http://www.home.intellit.nl/np/test/background.jpg.
 No way to escape from this area! - This will have disadvantages for the
 greater screen resolutions (and/or for browser sidebars turned on/off).
 If the visitor has a 800x600px resolution, the content is about 60% of
 the available screen.
 If the visitor is viewing the page with a 1280x1024px monitor, the used
 'message part' of the screen is only ... 16%.

 * See annotated screenshot 1280x1024
   
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/screenshot-intellit.png

 So I should strongly advise to start with a more flexible model, letting
 the screen of the visitor determine the width and/or height.
 This will invoke new questions to solve! For instance:

 * Q: what to do with the background?
   A: I should make a background without the transparent part in
   it, and make it seamless repeatable. Then at large reso's there is
   no white around. Compressing the jpg can save 52 of the 66kB's,
   which is downloaded 4.5 times faster: example of 14kB
   
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/intellit-background-new.jpg
 * Q: how to make the top bar 'playing now:' flexible and extending /
   shrinking if needed?
   A: this can be done with a Sliding Doors technique, for instance
   the method of Liquid Round Corners
   
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/liquidcorners/liquidcorners.htm
   The same image can be used for the left and right part: recycled
   by css! See new top bar
   
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/nowplaying_xbmc-new.gif

 * Q: how to get transparency in the content part?
   A: I see 2 ways: (1) using a small semitransparent white png image
   as background image; then there has to be added the rather bits
   eating IE png hack; example: test page
   
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/transparency/png-gradient-proefje.htm.
   Or (2) using the css3-property opacity, which is supported
   already by almost all modern browsers. Exception is ... IE, but IE
   can be made happy by using an IE-only filter. - old IE5.0 and
   Konqueror are degrading to a white background.
   If you want the content part to have rounded corners, the same (1)
   or (2) has to be applied to them. The top and bottom parted can be
   glued as well in one image
   
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/corners-intellit2000x10.gif
 * Q: how to get the sidebar scrollable too?
   A: by giving the sidebar the {overflow:auto} property too, or,
   what I should prefer, canceling the overflow of the #content, and
   putting it to the container of the sidebar and the content; then
   they are scrolling together.

 As a Dutch proverb says More ways are leading to Rome.
 To illustrate:

 * Horizontal css flexibilized testpage
   
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-intellit-a.htm.
   :-)
 * Some comments inside.
 * Link to screenshots: in the page.


Hi Francky,

Thanks a lot for your insight. It  was very interesting to read your
CSS Zen Guru article (nicely written ;)) although this design does
actually what it should do, because the content area is actually more
then big enough for the content that will be placed there (I.e.
year/genre/link to lyrics etc). When i would use your scaled layout,
my opinion is, ithere will be too much room for this little content.
But i definitely learned from your comments, thanks!

I use actually a resolution of 1680x1050, and it was designed for
1024x768 and up. But still i agree, when using a large resolution
normally the empty space would be a waste, but in this case is as
designed.

About the JPG compression, true, i could do a bit more. I think around
40kb would still have a reasonable quality.

Thanks again, and happy holidays!

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Re: [css-d] Misbehaving Coloured bands

2006-12-26 Thread Phil Holt
Thanks David - that did the trick nicely.

Much appreciated.

Phil


On 26/12/06 13:59, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Phil Holt wrote:
 I'm hoping you can help me solve this issue, which I think is IE related...
 
 http://www.cottonliving.co.uk/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=2
 
 Please check out the above page and you will see that the coloured band
 above the image is not positioning properly. The two rules I added to my
 stylesheet to control the band are as follows:-
   
 [trimmed]
 
 Phil
 
   
 Have you tried deleting position: absolute; from ruleset
 #MyProductList_MyList .attention {...}?
 Regards,
 ~dL

Cheers
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Re: [css-d] opera or FF rtl bug

2006-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ido Dekkers wrote:
 which of the above has the bug : http://test.dekkers.net/test.aspx
 
 the logo and 2 other images display correct in FF(2,3) but not in 
 Opera(latest)

Before you go any further, consider the following...

- Precise positioning of elements on top of a background-image by using
em, is a flawed method - regardless of direction. Those elements are not
anywhere near their intended position in any of my browsers, simply
because their position - in em - rely on font-size.
Font-size is not a factor you can control all that well.

- Opera has a rounding-effect on large em margins and paddings. See...
http://www.brunildo.org/test/emarg.pl

- Firefox (2.0.0.1) offers no horizontal scroll, and I need at least a
1450px wide window just to see the entire page.
That's the effect of 'minimum font-size: 14px'.
It's the same in other browsers, apart from that they give me a
horizontal scroll-bar.

- Height in em on those anchors means I see both horizontal and vertical
repetition of background-images. Pretty confusing link-text, I think.
Again: it's the effect of uncontrollable font-size.


So, when you want to position anything precisely on top of a fix-sized
background, you'll be better of by using a fix-sized unit for positions
and dimensions - like px.

Also: especially IE tends to be a bit unpredictable when all
'top'/'left'/'right'/'bottom' values are left out and positioning rely
on default-positions and margins.

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Re: [css-d] mac/ie5.2 float drop

2006-12-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
~davidLaakso wrote:
 Browsercam http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=310474 shows 
 right column  float drop on this page http://tinyurl.com/ww9gb at 1280.
 Suggestions for correction appreciated.
 Thanks.
 ~dL

   
On an off-list suggestion regarding the complex (percent) width layout, 
a much simpler (pixel) width layout is now on the server. However, 
browsercam is /still/ dropping the right column float in mac/ie5.2.
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Re: [css-d] mac/ie5.2 float drop

2006-12-26 Thread Bruno Fassino
David Laakso wrote:

 Browsercam
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=310474 shows
 right column  float drop on this page
 http://tinyurl.com/ww9gb at 1280.

It could be the fact that IE/Mac sometimes does not respect the assigned
width for floats, making them slightly larger. This doesn't happen when the
text is contained in boxes with a bit of right padding (or margin.) Indeed
the only solution that I know is adding some right padding to your p's:
  div#content-b p { margin-right: 0.2em; }

If this really solves the problem (I've probably tested on your first
version), you could just feed it to IE/Mac, for example wrapping it in some
filters like this:
/*\*//*/ div#content-b p { margin-right: 0.2em; } /**/


Best regards,
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[css-d] Scrollbars not appearing in Safari...

2006-12-26 Thread Dean Heetderks
We¹re preparing a launch of a newly designed site and although pages display
properly, the vertical (and horizontal) scrollbars don¹t appear in Safari.
Here¹s a page:

 http://208.106.199.119/pages/index_alpha.cfm?letter=all
 
Pages work correctly in Firefox and IE.

Any ideas?

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Re: [css-d] mac/ie5.2 float drop

2006-12-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Bruno Fassino wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:

   
 Browsercam
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=310474 shows
 right column  float drop on this page
 http://tinyurl.com/ww9gb at 1280.
 

 It could be the fact that IE/Mac sometimes does not respect the assigned
 width for floats, making them slightly larger. This doesn't happen when the
 text is contained in boxes with a bit of right padding (or margin.) Indeed
 the only solution that I know is adding some right padding to your p's:
   div#content-b p { margin-right: 0.2em; }

 If this really solves the problem (I've probably tested on your first
 version), you could just feed it to IE/Mac, for example wrapping it in some
 filters like this:
 /*\*//*/ div#content-b p { margin-right: 0.2em; } /**/


 Best regards,
 Bruno
Mac/IE5.2 in Browsercam seems pleased with your fix Bruno (I am using 
the simplified version of my layout rather than the one you worked on). 
Thank you (and Philippe off-list) so much.
Best,
~davidL.

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Re: [css-d] Scrollbars not appearing in Safari...

2006-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dean Heetderks wrote:
 We¹re preparing a launch of a newly designed site and although pages 
 display properly, the vertical (and horizontal) scrollbars don¹t 
 appear in Safari.

 http://208.106.199.119/pages/index_alpha.cfm?letter=all

In...
#content_middle{
...delete...
position: absolute;
...or change it to...
position: relative;

That should make the scroll-bars appear in Safari.

Source-code and CSS need some clean-up.

regards
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[css-d] Circle Navigation

2006-12-26 Thread Martin Davis
Hey all,

So I'm trying to make a new website today and I have this crazy idea
of using a circle navigation. I've searched around but can not find
any examples, only some product running rampant around the web. I'm
all for using pre-packaged stuff, but I feel like I'm missing
something simple and I almost have it working.

The idea is to have an outline of a circle with icons on the edge of
it. When a user scrolls over the icon, the text appears in the middle
of the circle. Even though my div #nav is acting as a containing div
for the icons, I can't seem to get the text to see the div #nav as a
container. Any ideas?

http://dev.martinhdavisiii.com/

The nav is in the top right.

Happy New Years,
Martin
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[css-d] Aligning and setting positions in unordered lists

2006-12-26 Thread Ian Piper
Hi all,

I've come across a small positioning problem and can't find anything  
specifically on this on the web. Can anyone tell me what I need to do?

http://www.tellura.co.uk/fenditching/

This holding page demonstrates the problem. The unordered list  
appears more or less the same in IE6 and Firefox (Mac and PC). The  
bullets are indented about 20 pixels and the gap between the bullets  
and the list item text is smaller than I would like. I really want  
the bullets to be aligned left with the rest of the body text and I'd  
like a bigger gap between the bullet and the list item text. I could  
get the effect I want in Firefox by applying a negative margin to the  
ul element and a text-indent to li. However, this doesn't show in  
IE. I am sure there must be a cleaner way to do what I want, but  
can't find anything on this.

If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.

Thanks,


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[css-d] Background only filling the initial pane size

2006-12-26 Thread Jonathan Duncan
I am pretty sure I have run into this problem before and solved it,  
but for some reason, the solution is eluding me today.

The problem can be seen on this page:

http://ogio.com/press.php

The black background of the content area stops when it hits the  
boundary of the window pane instead of continuing down the full  
length of the page.  Any idea what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,
Jonathan
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Re: [css-d] Circle Navigation

2006-12-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Martin Davis wrote:
 Hey all,

 So I'm trying to make a new website today and I have this crazy idea
 of using a circle navigation. I've searched around but can not find
 any examples, only some product running rampant around the web. I'm
 all for using pre-packaged stuff, but I feel like I'm missing
 something simple and I almost have it working.

 The idea is to have an outline of a circle with icons on the edge of
 it. When a user scrolls over the icon, the text appears in the middle
 of the circle. Even though my div #nav is acting as a containing div
 for the icons, I can't seem to get the text to see the div #nav as a
 container. Any ideas?

 http://dev.martinhdavisiii.com/

 The nav is in the top right.

 Happy New Years,
 Martin

   
Anything is possible. I like your idea-- don't know that I can help 
execute it. Food for thought, along similar but different lines (Tantek 
Celik) http://tantek.com/map.html.
Best,
~dL

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[css-d] IE7 forms problem, overlapping elements

2006-12-26 Thread Debbie Campbell
I'm trying to make my quote form IE7-compatible, but I cannot get the 
sections that include radio buttons/checkboxes/textareas to clear 
properly. They're working okay in FF and IE6.

Here's the page: http://www.parallaxwebdesign.com/services/quote.php

The overlaps for the aforementioned elements are obvious... I've tried 
setting a bottom margin as a conditional comment for each of these 
sections with no results. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong here.

Debbie



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[css-d] CSS adding space around form selects ?

2006-12-26 Thread Ianvaughan1979
Hi
 
How can I get the code below, to get the form select box to display 5  pixels 
below the H4 header at present it is about 20 pixels ?
 
I would also like there only to be a 5 pixel space after the select  box and 
the second H4 Header 'Location' again at present this is around 26  pixels ??
 
 
Thanks and merry christmas!
 

#subnav
{
float: left;
background: white;
width:  200px;
border: 1px solid red;
padding-left: 8px;
margin-top:  15px;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva,  sans-serif;
font-size: 10px;
}
 
#subnav h3 
{
background-color: #891313;
border-bottom: 2px solid  #3b3b3b;
text-transform: uppercase;
color: #FFF;
font-size:  11px;
margin: 0;
padding: 6px 4px;
}
 
#subnav h4 
{
background-color: #e1dfda;
border-top: 2px solid  #fff;
text-transform: uppercase;
font-family:  tahoma, Arial,  Helvetica,Geneva, sans-serif;
color: #232323;
font-size: 10px;
margin:  0;
padding: 7px;
}
 
.Search {
margin: 0;
font-family:  arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
text-align:  left;
color: #000;
}


.Select {  font-size: 12px; width: 180px; margin-bottom: 5px;}
 
 
 
div id=subnav
h3Restaurant Search/h3
 
h4CUSINE/h4
div class=Search
form  action=# method=post enctype=application/x-www-urlencoded
INPUT  type=hidden name=test value=test
select name=t  class=Select
option value=0All  Cuisines/option
option  value=1Afghanistan/option
option  value=2African/option
/select
/form
 
/div
 
h4LOCATION/h4
div class=Search
form  action=# method=post enctype=application/x-www-urlencoded
INPUT  type=hidden name=test1 value=test1
select name=t  class=Select
option value=0Area/option
option  value=1Area1/option
option  value=2Area2/option
/select
/form
 
/div
 

h3User Log-In/h3
 
/div
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Re: [css-d] Circle Navigation

2006-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Martin Davis wrote:
 The idea is to have an outline of a circle with icons on the edge of 
 it. When a user scrolls over the icon, the text appears in the middle
 of the circle. Even though my div #nav is acting as a containing div
 for the icons, I can't seem to get the text to see the div #nav as a
 container.

The #nav isn't a container for positioning of those spans, because the
anchors are themselves absolute positioned and the spans will therefore
stay relative to them.

You can add something like the following...

ul#nav li a#menu1 span {top: 50px; left: 0px;}
ul#nav li a#menu2 span {top: 50px; left: 50px;}
ul#nav li a#menu3 span {top: 50px; right: 30px; left: auto;}
ul#nav li a#menu4 span {top: 10px; left: 50px;}
ul#nav li a#menu5 span {top: 10px; right: 50px; left: auto;}
ul#nav li a#menu6 span {top: -30px; left: 50px;}
ul#nav li a#menu7 span {top: -30px; right: 25px; left: auto;}
ul#nav li a#menu8 span {top: -40px; left: -10px;}

...and offset the positions relative to those anchors.
Mind what happens when font-resizing is applied.

You can also position those anchors without using 'A:P' or 'R:P', thus
make your original idea work.

 http://dev.martinhdavisiii.com/

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Aligning and setting positions in unordered lists

2006-12-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Dec 27, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

 Ian Piper wrote:
 http://www.tellura.co.uk/fenditching/

 [...] I really want the bullets to be aligned left with the rest of
 the body text and I'd like a bigger gap between the bullet and the
 list item text.

 Take this basic list-styling...

 #content ul {padding-left: 12px; margin-left: .3em;}
 #content ul li {padding-left: 20px /* bullet-gap */; margin-left: 0; }

 ...and adjust values to taste.
 Paddings and margins on ul take care of where the entire list lines  
 up,
 and I've added some corrections for font-resizing.
 Padding-left on li controls the gap, and margin-left on li gives added
 control of where the bullets line up.

By default, the space reserved for the list marker comes from padding- 
left (Gecko, Safari, Opera 9, iCab) or margin-left (Explorer Win/Mac)  
on the UL.
In this case: zero out margin/padding on the ul, then add 1.2 em  
padding-left (that allows for different size of list markers,  
depending on the user's font-size.
To increase the space between the list marker and the contents (text)  
of the li, add padding-left to the li.

ul {margin: 1em 0; padding: 0 0 0 1.2em;} /* adjust top and bottom  
margin to taste */
li {padding-left: 3em /* adjust to taste */}


Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Background only filling the initial pane size

2006-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jonathan Duncan wrote:
 http://ogio.com/press.php
 
 The black background of the content area stops when it hits the 
 boundary of the window pane instead of continuing down the full 
 length of the page.  Any idea what I am doing wrong?

You have forgotten to tell standard compliant browsers to expand the
wrapper as content grows, so they stop at 100% window-height - as they
are told.

The addition of...
#wrap {display: table;}
...will work in all good browsers - in accordance with standard...
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#q15
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#q2

regards
Georg
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