Re: [css-d] Multisite/language css

2008-06-23 Thread Ant Tyler
Hi David
thanks for the link!
Ant

2008/6/20 David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:12:05 +0100, Ant Tyler wrote:
  I'm starting to rework a number of sites for a client with an overly
 complex set of css
  sheets, does anyone have any resource or pointers to correct practice for
 this?

 I don't think there's a correct practice as such. Like any design
 decision, it's usually a matter of compromise with sometimes
 conflicting needs.

 Having failed to answer your question, I offer this link to a program
 that should help you eliminate rules that are unnecessary / unused:

  http://www.sitepoint.com/dustmeselectors/

 Cordially,
 David
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Re: [css-d] Multiple float 'columns' and gutters

2008-06-23 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Sun, 6/22/08, Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why not use a CMS or at least a server side include that
 editors could update without messing with the structure ?

Hi Barrett,

While that is certainly one possible solution:

a) We're already using a (not very good) CMS, and I don't think it will allow 
me to specify class names according to odd/even order. To clarify, I *want* to 
allow people to swap the order of boxes, and I *would like* it if they didn't 
have to manually edit a class name when they do that.

b) Regardless of back-end process, I still think this is a valid requirement: 
i.e. to display a series of boxes in a column layout which can be reordered 
with minimum effort, with nice clean markup.

Regards,

- Bobby


  
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Re: [css-d] homage to the square

2008-06-23 Thread Peter Hyde-Smith

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Subject: Re: [css-d] homage to the square


 Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:


 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/portfolio/

 Joseph Albers



 David:

 Also, as you click on the different nav selections, some of the Square's 
 image vertical sizes must be different as there is some slight jogging of 
 the nav list.

 Peter
 www.fatpawdesign.com

 Good call. Thank you, Peter. Made some modifications. /Please/ reload. Do 
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David:

That looks/works perfect. No more jogging. They're all showing up as 300 x 
300 now.

Peter 

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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Christopher
Well I have my background image, but to the right of the browser there 
is white space, I want to fill in, which is why I asked. 
I wanted to take a look at your examples Nancy but they were offline.


Nancy wrote:
 From: Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Can you have two background images on the {body} ? and position them?
 

 No, you can only have one background image per element.
 What exactly is the effect you are going for?

 You can, for instance, have a background image for the body that is 
 positioned like:
 body {background-image: url(http://www.foo.com/image-left.gif); 
 background-position: left top; background-repeat:no-repeat; 
 background-attachment: fixed;}

 And then have a wrapper div like:
 div#bodydiv {background-image: url(http://www.foo.com/image-right.gif) ; 
 background-repeat:no-repeat; background-position-x: right; 
 background-position-y:top; width:100%; height:100%;} 

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[css-d] Positioning in IE6

2008-06-23 Thread Steve LaBadie
I am having a problem trying to get a photo gallery positioned properly
in IE6, works fine in IE7 and Firefox. Any thoughts would be
appreciated. 

 

http://www4.esu.edu/mascot/scroller5/index.htm

 

 

Steve LaBadie, Web Manager
East Stroudsburg University
200 Prospect St.
East Stroudsburg, Pa 18301
570-422-3999
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Re: [css-d] CSS Roll Over Problem Help

2008-06-23 Thread Christopher
I'm going to put this on a server and this way you guys can get a 
understanding of what I want with CSS roll over, I should have it on a 
server by
end of today just finishing up something.

Christopher wrote:
 Alright, what I am after is if I have one giant graphic with, three 
 smaller areas that will be buttons within the giant graphic, how
 do I create roll over effects in this way ?
  From all the examples I have seen from links given to me by the great 
 people of this list most of them show small buttons not buttons
 within giant graphic files with other stuff within the graphic file as well.


 David Laakso wrote:
   
 Christopher wrote:
   
 
 I have one giant image with 3 areas specific for links, I don't want the 
 whole image just 3 specific areas of the giant image, when I read up on 
 sprites most of the examples were little buttons so how do I go about 
 doing it this way which I have laid out ?

 Christopher

   
 
   
 It is very difficult understand your continuing question (s) without 
 some sort of diagram; or, better yet, a clickable link to the 
 page/problem in question. I am sure you know what you want. But 
 something more tangible than a rather incomprehensible 53 word long 
 sentence will help others get the picture, and, perhaps, enable them to 
 give you a specific answer. In the meantime, maybe this will help:
 http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical05.htm
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Re: [css-d] homage to the square

2008-06-23 Thread Ron Zisman

On Jun 22, 2008, at 7:40 PM, David Laakso wrote:

 Greeting from Havana!
greeting from vega (third planet past pluto)

observations of a blind print designer:

 Just a simple means of presenting portfolio visuals -- could use any
 feedback, nevertheless...
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/portfolio/

designwise, extremely attractive, great use of type, very balanced.

but having gone through a similar exercise recently, i'm left with  
some questions:

as a portfolio, one assumes the purpose of the exercise is to present  
the work, first and foremost.
in your example, the page layout seems almost more important than the  
work you're trying to present.
the work itself is given almost equal weight as the title, the text  
and the rollovers. so the first impression is of the layout of the page.

also, what happens if the paintings are different shapes--a wide  
piece, becomes  smaller when all are equal width, and a tall piece  
forces the rollovers down.
with different shaped art, the rollovers bounce, forcing the user to  
move the mouse to smoothly transition between clicks.

the rollovers take up a good bit of screen real estate, and as i have  
to scroll down to get to latter states, it becomes a small  
inconvenience...

and as a print designer, i'm of the mind that anything that hampers  
immediate gratification is not necessarily good thing.

most of my compatriots are dull witted and superficial egoists and  
want to be able to flip though quickly, then maybe go back if  
something peaks their curiosity.
not very considerate, but its part of the dna

but it is a beautiful page.
 :: embedded::

 Respectfully.
 Joseph Albers

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Re: [css-d] homage to the square

2008-06-23 Thread David Laakso
Ron Zisman wrote:
 On Jun 22, 2008, at 7:40 PM, David Laakso wrote:

   

 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/portfolio/
 


 and as a print designer, i'm of the mind that anything that hampers  
 immediate gratification is not necessarily good thing.



   





I'm glad we got that straightened out as you had me worried for a moment 
or so...

As ever,
Fidel
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[css-d] Site Check Please

2008-06-23 Thread Professional Web Pages - Information
To whom it may concern,


Would you please provide feedback for the website http://www.AMSvet.com.au/

Thank you.

Regards
PWP
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[css-d] form can't be placed where I want it

2008-06-23 Thread jeroen vannevel

hi,

I can't find why my registering form can't be placed where I want it.
does anyone has an idea?

http://speedzor.com/register.php

greetings,
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Re: [css-d] form can't be placed where I want it

2008-06-23 Thread Peter Hammarling
Jeroen, could it be that in your style sheet register is a class,  
and in your html it's a div ?

all the best, Peter
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Re: [css-d] form can't be placed where I want it

2008-06-23 Thread Peter Hammarling
sorry, correction.

 and in your html it's a div

I meant to say, in your html it's an id

Peter
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Re: [css-d] form can't be placed where I want it

2008-06-23 Thread Chris Akins
Just as a tip - it's probably best to specify the where you want it part
of your question.   Since we don't know what's in your head or on your
sketch pad.  :-)

But I'm guessing you're just wanting it below the navbar.  I think you might
need to change the register div margin-top to just top  Since you've
declared that as absolutely placed, you then need to tell it where to be.
There is no placement info there except absolute.  You need to give it a
where.

I think that's what's going on.  Others on here can verify my thoughts or
dispel them.

Chris A.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:31 AM, jeroen vannevel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 hi,

 I can't find why my registering form can't be placed where I want it.
 does anyone has an idea?

 http://speedzor.com/register.php

 greetings,
 jeroen

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Re: [css-d] form can't be placed where I want it

2008-06-23 Thread Tango
jeroen vannevel wrote:
 hi,

 I can't find why my registering form can't be placed where I want it.
 does anyone has an idea?

 http://speedzor.com/register.php

 greetings,
 jeroen
 From what I can see right now is you style sheet is referencing

div.register {
position : absolute;
margin-left : 200px;
margin-top : 100px;
width : 200px;
float : left;
}

where register is a class and  your html is stating

div id=register
form action= method=post
fieldset id=registration
legendRegistration/legend
Username: input type=text name=nick maxlength=15 / 
br /
Password: input type=password name=pass1 maxlength=15 
/ br /

Re-enter your password: input type=password name=pass2 
maxlength=15 / br /
E-mail adress: input type=text name=email 
maxlength=35 / br /
input type=submit value=Register myself / input 
type=reset value=Clear all fields / br /
/fieldset
/form
/div

where register is a id.

Changing one or the other so they are the same will help a great deal.
Where do you want the form to be placed?

Tango
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Re: [css-d] Site Check Please

2008-06-23 Thread David Laakso
Professional Web Pages - Information wrote:

 Would you please provide feedback for the website http://www.AMSvet.com.au/

 Thank you.

 Regards
 PWP

   


Is the blue block offset 24px on the left intentional? Some folks may 
have trouble with the tiny frozen fonts in IE. And not everyone will 
appreciate the rivers[1].
IE/6 will probably be a market contender for sometime to come. It may be 
a little premature for your client to brush them off...
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_(typography)

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Re: [css-d] Site Check Please

2008-06-23 Thread Alan K Baker
It looks OK to me, if a little slow to load images, but that could just be the 
server.

What else did you want to know?

Regards, 
 
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  - Original Message - 
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  To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
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  Subject: [css-d] Site Check Please


  To whom it may concern,


  Would you please provide feedback for the website http://www.AMSvet.com.au/

  Thank you.

  Regards
  PWP
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Re: [css-d] form can't be placed where I want it

2008-06-23 Thread jeroen vannevel

ok, thanks for helping me out guys!

 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:56:51 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: Re: [css-d] form can't be placed where I want it
 
 jeroen vannevel wrote:
  hi,
 
  I can't find why my registering form can't be placed where I want it.
  does anyone has an idea?
 
  http://speedzor.com/register.php
 
  greetings,
  jeroen
  From what I can see right now is you style sheet is referencing
 
 div.register {
 position : absolute;
 margin-left : 200px;
 margin-top : 100px;
 width : 200px;
 float : left;
 }
 
 where register is a class and  your html is stating
 
 div id=register
 form action= method=post
 fieldset id=registration
 legendRegistration/legend
 Username: input type=text name=nick maxlength=15 / 
 br /
 Password: input type=password name=pass1 maxlength=15 
 / br /
 
 Re-enter your password: input type=password name=pass2 
 maxlength=15 / br /
 E-mail adress: input type=text name=email 
 maxlength=35 / br /
 input type=submit value=Register myself / input 
 type=reset value=Clear all fields / br /
 /fieldset
 /form
 /div
 
 where register is a id.
 
 Changing one or the other so they are the same will help a great deal.
 Where do you want the form to be placed?
 
 Tango
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Re: [css-d] Positioning in IE6

2008-06-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Steve LaBadie wrote:
 I am having a problem trying to get a photo gallery positioned
 properly in IE6, works fine in IE7 and Firefox. Any thoughts would be
  appreciated.

 http://www4.esu.edu/mascot/scroller5/index.htm

Looks like IE6 has lost track of where the many 'position: relative'
involved should go, and ends up with a dead in the water position for
#mygallery.

I don't have a sensible explanation for IE6' behavior, but adding...

#content {position: relative;}

...will fix it in your case.

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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Nancy E. Sosna Bohm
 From: Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Well I have my background image, but to the right of the browser there 
 is white space, I want to fill in, which is why I asked. 
 I wanted to take a look at your examples Nancy but they were offline.
 
 
  Nancy wrote:
...
  You can, for instance, have a background image for the body that is 
  positioned like:
...
  And then have a wrapper div like:
...

Okay, here's an example:
http://thesmudge.com/shapeshifter/test/rightleft.html
I embedded the style in the head of the page.
Note it's modified slightly from the theoretical example in my previous
post.
If you play with the size of the window, the images merge. In the actual
page there's a middle image as well.

Nancy

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[css-d] CSS Roll Over Problem Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Christopher
Alright, after a lot questions and help from some great people, and some 
frustration as to wanting to see what I am trying to achieve,
I have put what I am trying to achieve on the server, now to break up 
the problems in two different questions:

Link to page: http://www.walkfar.ca/main3.html

A) *CSS Roll Over*
-= You will see a giant image and three smaller circles these smaller 
circles is where I want the roll over to be which will be links to other 
parts of the pages or another page how can I achieve this in CSS ?

B) *Two background images on the {body}*
-= Two background images on the {body} you will see white space to the 
right of your browser I want to fill this with a image how can this be done?

*NOTE*: I am using /dreamweaver /so if it can be explained on how to do 
this in /DW/ as well as code it would be benificial to me.

Christopher

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Re: [css-d] homage to the square

2008-06-23 Thread christopher
ok, I'm not a designer or an artist, but I would think
the graphic needs to be to the left of the rollovers
and underneath the introductory paragraph. By doing
this, you could focus on the images better than the
rollovers, which, as mentioned by some one else, seem to
be given equal weight.

Other than that, I think it's a great looking page

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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Richard Brown
Hi Chris

On 23 Jun 2008, at 18:16, Christopher wrote:

 Here is a link for the Two background images on the {body}
 http://www.walkfar.ca/main3.html

My rough take on it. I haven't done much to the images:
http://cregy.net/test/chris/index.html
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Re: [css-d] easy clearing: a new way?

2008-06-23 Thread Wellington Fan
Gabriele Romanato wrote:
 try to change

 content: .;

 with

 content: \A;

 does it work? IE8?? let me know.

 xxx ^.^

   


I have recently tried using the overflow:auto trick to clear 
floats...seems to work wonders!

http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html

Anyone else have experience wiht this?

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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Christopher
#wrapper {
width: 900px;
height: 900px;
background-image:url(graphic%20files/mockup.png);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
}

I don't see the #wrapper graphic when I preview and I just made the same 
style as you #wrapper and tried to apply it with my image and nothing 
appeared

Richard Brown wrote:
 Hi Chris

 On 23 Jun 2008, at 18:16, Christopher wrote:

 Here is a link for the Two background images on the {body}
 http://www.walkfar.ca/main3.html

 My rough take on it. I haven't done much to the images:
 http://cregy.net/test/chris/index.html
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 Kind regards

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Re: [css-d] homage to the square

2008-06-23 Thread Jens Nedal
christopher wrote:
  ok, I'm not a designer or an artist, but I would think
  the graphic needs to be to the left of the rollovers
  and underneath the introductory paragraph. By doing
  this, you could focus on the images better than the
  rollovers, which, as mentioned by some one else, seem to
  be given equal weight.
 
  Other than that, I think it's a great looking page
 

I agree with Christopher here. The art should be in the foreground, not 
the textual explanation. The text is the interpretation of the artist, 
but that is not the same as what the onlooker will see. Let the one 
seeing the picture decide first what he feels about it and explain 
afterwards!

I would also suggest the image to the left and text to the right, or 
text under the image and the image centered, though that might lead to 
other changes in your layout.

Otherwise i like typhgraphy, line-height and spacing. Text seems 
unobtrusive against the art.

regards, Jens
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Re: [css-d] Creating a forum

2008-06-23 Thread Barrett
Here are your main players.
No they are not free.

http://www.vbulletin.com/

http://www.ubbcentral.com/

http://www.photopost.com/

I haven't looked at them in detail in a while to know what extent  
their layout templates can be edited.
I think though the forum layouts may lend themselves to a table based  
structure. That would be an interesting issue to hear more about.  
Likely it is covered on one of their heavily trafficked user forums.
I've only recently started jumping on the css layout bandwagon, but  
it has been a fun ride so far.

Thanks,
Barrett
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On Jun 22, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Patrick James wrote:
 Hi

 I'm just about to start trying to create a forum for inclusion in a
 web-site I've been creating.

 I've never done this before and I'm wondering if anyone could offer
 any suggestions.

 The first 'forum solution' I've been looking at is phpBB:

 http://www.phpbb.com/

 The web-site is wish to put it in uses CSS 100% for layout and is
 flexible.

 I'd like to be able to style the forum so that it fits in with the
 look and feel of the web-site.

 Has anyone here any experience of working with forums?

 Thank you.

 Patrick

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Re: [css-d] homage to the square

2008-06-23 Thread Christopher
Christopher, do you mean Jens?  :-)


Jens Nedal wrote:
 christopher wrote:
   ok, I'm not a designer or an artist, but I would think
   the graphic needs to be to the left of the rollovers
   and underneath the introductory paragraph. By doing
   this, you could focus on the images better than the
   rollovers, which, as mentioned by some one else, seem to
   be given equal weight.
  
   Other than that, I think it's a great looking page
  

 I agree with Christopher here. The art should be in the foreground, not 
 the textual explanation. The text is the interpretation of the artist, 
 but that is not the same as what the onlooker will see. Let the one 
 seeing the picture decide first what he feels about it and explain 
 afterwards!

 I would also suggest the image to the left and text to the right, or 
 text under the image and the image centered, though that might lead to 
 other changes in your layout.

 Otherwise i like typhgraphy, line-height and spacing. Text seems 
 unobtrusive against the art.

 regards, Jens
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Re: [css-d] easy clearing: a new way?

2008-06-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Wellington Fan wrote:
 Gabriele Romanato wrote:
 try to change

 content: .;

 with

 content: \A;

 does it work? IE8?? let me know.

 xxx ^.^

   
 
 
 I have recently tried using the overflow:auto trick to clear 
 floats...seems to work wonders!
 
 http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html
 
 Anyone else have experience wiht this?

Yes. But Gabriele discusses another technique, easyclearing.
http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html

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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Duncan Hill
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:47:45 +0100, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 #wrapper {
 width: 900px;
 height: 900px;
 background-image:url(graphic%20files/mockup.png);
 background-repeat: no-repeat;
 }

 I don't see the #wrapper graphic when I preview and I just made the same
 style as you #wrapper and tried to apply it with my image and nothing
 appeared

Chris,

does this get you any closer to what you want to see.

I have sliced a part of your background image and applied it to a wrapper  
div, it fills the screen in the x direction using repeat-x.
Then your original image sits on top of that.

http://mndhill.com/christest/main3.html

Duncan
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Re: [css-d] Creating a forum

2008-06-23 Thread Erik Harris
On 6/23/2008 4:52 PM, Barrett wrote:
 Here are your main players.
 No they are not free.
 
 http://www.vbulletin.com/
 http://www.ubbcentral.com/
 http://www.photopost.com/

The last one doesn't appear to be forum software, but a photo gallery 
that integrates with a forum.

I would not necessarily agree that these are the main players though. 
  vBulletin is definitely up there, and is a great package, if a bit 
overpriced, IMO.  phpBB is quite a bit more common than UBB.threads, and 
from what I've seen, with version 3, it's probably more capable than 
UBB.threads, too.  From what I've seen, I'd say that phpBB 3 is probably 
the most feature-filled and capable of the _free_ forum software 
packages out there.  It also has a large community of developers making 
mods and themes for it, which would be useful both for improving the 
forum's capabilities AND for getting help with questions that Patrick 
might come up with that fall outside this email list's scope.


As for a bigger picture of the available forum choices, here are lots of 
them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(ASP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_internet_forum_software_(other)

There are numerous choices at all price levels.  phpBB appears 
relatively easy to modify themes for, adding whatever styling you'd 
like, though I haven't done much of it myself.  It's basically like 
designing a website, but it's more modular, and the appropriate keywords 
need to be in place to plug the content in.  I recently did something 
similar with WordPress, where I basically took an existing website and 
copied/pasted the appropriate parts into a basic WP theme, and made some 
semi-minor changes to the CSS file.  A forum is a bit more structured, 
but the same principles should apply, I'd think.

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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Duncan Hill
Sorry Christopher,

I don't want to add extra confusion.

I added the slice from your original image as the background on the body  
and then applied your original using the new wrapper div.

http://mndhill.com/christest/main3.html

thought it best to clarify for you.

Duncan
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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Christopher
Yeah I applied my mock-up image that should be used as the wrapper and I 
don't see it, is #wrapper a div
cause I just put that code as seen below this message under the {body} 
style.  Either way I didn't see my mock up image
that I wanted placed on the right showing up.

Duncan Hill wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:47:45 +0100, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

   
 #wrapper {
 width: 900px;
 height: 900px;
 background-image:url(graphic%20files/mockup.png);
 background-repeat: no-repeat;
 }

 I don't see the #wrapper graphic when I preview and I just made the same
 style as you #wrapper and tried to apply it with my image and nothing
 appeared

 
 Chris,

 does this get you any closer to what you want to see.

 I have sliced a part of your background image and applied it to a wrapper  
 div, it fills the screen in the x direction using repeat-x.
 Then your original image sits on top of that.

 http://mndhill.com/christest/main3.html

 Duncan
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Re: [css-d] Creating a forum

2008-06-23 Thread Barrett
Yeh photopost is a photogallery - thought I'd throw that in there not  
knowing the extent of his project since it is made to integrate and  
has a proven record of heavy usage http://www.photopost.com/ 
sitesphp.html
I don't have a list handy anymore, but a few years back when I  
researched these forums I consistently found them being used on very  
heavily trafficked sites. To me that was trial by fire as those sites  
most assuredly would not mess around with something that wasn't  
working at high usage levels.

For free phpbb does look really darn good, but depending on the  
project I lean towards a paid product with paid support to make sure  
the job gets done right and on schedule.

I look forward to hearing and seeing a fully css based forum project.

Thanks,
Barrett
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On Jun 23, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Erik Harris wrote:
 On 6/23/2008 4:52 PM, Barrett wrote:
 Here are your main players.
 No they are not free.

 http://www.vbulletin.com/
 http://www.ubbcentral.com/
 http://www.photopost.com/

 The last one doesn't appear to be forum software, but a photo gallery
 that integrates with a forum.

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[css-d] Hidding text behind a graphic

2008-06-23 Thread Hayden's Harness Attachment
Can someone help me hide the text in my h1 a { behind my Guide Star 
background image? Thank you.

HTML http://www.choroideremia.org/new/crf_header.php

CSS http://www.choroideremia.org/css/layout.css

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Re: [css-d] Hidding text behind a graphic

2008-06-23 Thread Bobby Jack
My immediate thought would be:

h1 a { position: relative; height: 62px; }
h1 a img { position: absolute; top: 0; background-color: inherit; }

BUT, you might want to test that under different browsers and/or wait for 
further responses, because I'm not an expert on all of IE's idiosyncrasies. As 
far as I can tell, though, that's according to spec.

Bear in mind that this will 'fail' when text size is increased, although other 
elements of your design do that anyway.

- Bobby


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 behind my Guide Star background image? Thank you.
 
 HTML http://www.choroideremia.org/new/crf_header.php
 
 CSS http://www.choroideremia.org/css/layout.css
 
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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Duncan Hill
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:33:15 +0100, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Yeah I applied my mock-up image that should be used as the wrapper and I
 don't see it, is #wrapper a div
 cause I just put that code as seen below this message under the {body}
 style.  Either way I didn't see my mock up image
 that I wanted placed on the right showing up.

Chris,

Unless we all come round to your house we can only experiment with what  
you give us in the way of published files.
If you look at the code on the example I posted you will see that the  
#wrapper is a div that encloses the other items on the page.
The thin slice that I took from the tight hand side of your  
backgroundforpage10.png is used to repeat across the page to take care of  
any whitespace that is not covered by your large image.
Whatever the mock up image is that you want on the right side, it needs to  
be published as a part of the page.

Don't forget, it is only when you publish the files to a server that we  
can see them.

Duncan
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Re: [css-d] Two background images on the {body}

2008-06-23 Thread Duncan Hill
Hi Christopher,

you've come through off-list but no matter, only problem is that anyone
else following the thread won't know of any changes.

First off, you mustn't lose sight of the fact that no-one can see changes
that you make to your local files. They must be published to a server for
anyone to be able to suggest modifications or corrections.

As I can't see your mock-up image, I'll go back to the code that I
published as a demo and explain a little of that. I'll put notes in
standard comment notation so it doesn't screw up if you view it in
Dreamweaver.

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 /
title/title
link href=navigationalbar.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /
style type=text/css
!--
--
body {
background-image: url(backgroundforpage10_cr.png); /* This is a modified
image, a 5px slice taken from your main backgroundforpage10.png image.
It's purpose is to be able to repeat across the width of the screen to
fill any whitespace unfilled by the main image. As it is part of the
original image it should blend reasonably well */
background-repeat:repeat-x; /* the repeat-x makes the image repeat until
it fills the width of the screen */
background-attachment: scroll;
height: auto;
width: auto;
 padding: 0; /* padding and margin were set as zero to eliminate the
defaults from the browser */
 margin: 0;  /* so that the image holds its correct position. */
}
#wrapper{ /* this is styling for the new div that was created to hold your
main backgroundforpage10.png */
background-image: url(backgroundforpage10_cr2.png); /* to remove a step
in the transition between this image and the slice applied to the body I
trimmed this to remove the border on the right edge simply for demo
display purposes */
background-repeat: no-repeat; /* a single image only is required so
no-repeat is needed */
padding: 0; /* once again padding and margin set zero to cancel browser
defaults for positioning purposes */
margin: 0;
}

/style
/head
body
div id=wrapper !-- This is the start of the new div that was placed
to hold the main background image --
div class=menunavigation
div class=contact
  pAnimator \ Motion Graphics Artist /p
  pContact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /p
/div
/div
p class=backgnbsp;/p
pnbsp;/p/div !-- This is where the wrapper div ends, you will see
that it encloses all of the other items on the page --
/body
/html


Your HTML and CSS must be capable of working along with each other, the
HTML provides the structure of the page and the 'hooks' to attach the
relevant CSS rules.
Taken in isolation, neither will provide very much, so simply taking my
#wrapper rules may not have had too big an effect.

I have attached the 2 modified image files so you can experiment with them
rather than try to download them from my demo page.

I did not make any changes inside your main CSS file and for now I would
suggest setting up all of your css rules in the head area of the page so
you can experiment more easily.

Once you get fixed with your image layout you should take a deeper look at
your css in the file, things like setting pixel heights for text are not
generally considered good practice and a line height of 2px is not good.
These are items that may give you problems as your page progresses so
worth taking care of as soon as your images are sorted out.


Duncan


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:52:58 +0100, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello Duncan, I have taken your #wrapper from your CSS and used it on my  
 page (I am using Dreamweaver) and I don't see it when
 I preview locally.  The only difference is that I replaced your image  
 with my mock-up image, also what do you mean by #wrapper is a div that  
 encloses the other items on the page

 Christopher

 Duncan Hill wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:33:15 +0100, Christopher  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 Yeah I applied my mock-up image that should be used as the wrapper and  
 I
 don't see it, is #wrapper a div
 cause I just put that code as seen below this message under the {body}
 style.  Either way I didn't see my mock up image
 that I wanted placed on the right showing up.


 Chris,

 Unless we all come round to your house we can only experiment with  
 what  you give us in the way of published files.
 If you look at the code on the example I posted you will see that the   
 #wrapper is a div that encloses the other items on the page.
 The thin slice that I took from the tight hand side of your   
 backgroundforpage10.png is used to repeat across the page to take care  
 of  any whitespace that is not covered by your large image.
 Whatever the mock up image is that you want on the right side, it needs  
 to  be published as a part of the page.

 Don't forget, it is only when you publish the files to a server 

Re: [css-d] easy clearing: a new way?

2008-06-23 Thread Rob Emenecker
Excellent reference. Thanks Ingo!

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[css-d] Tables display problem in Firefox but not IE

2008-06-23 Thread Ian C
Hello, 

I'm reworking a website that someone else created, and have been banging my
head against the wall a bit with it. 

What happens is that the tables (that were laid out with images and
rowspans) display fine in IE but not FireFox. FireFox puts a huge blank
space between the first row of the page and the body content. The problem is
that almost 25% of our users are using FireFox. 

Can someone please suggest how I could go about fixing this? 

You can see what I'm talking about by viewing this page (or the entire site,
for that matter) in both IE and FireFox: 

http://www.er-mag.com/test.html
http://www.PubCon.com/redirect.cgi?f=21d=3682011url=http://www.er-mag.com
/test.html  

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[css-d] Modifying CSS for specific browsers

2008-06-23 Thread Tim Offenstein
Okay I'm punting to you guys but sure as the world, 60 seconds after 
I send this I'll find the answer.

There are characters I can add to my CSS which are browser-specific, 
i.e., read only by Safari or IE6 for instance but I can't find a 
listing of them. I'm not talking about conditional style sheets but 
rather something like this:

#footer {
margin:0;
padding:0 20px;
_padding:0 10px;-- picked up only by IE6
background-color:#3f3f72;
color:#fff;
}

Anyone care to offer me a reference where I can see what markup to 
use for different browsers? Also, while we're at it, is this approach 
any better/worse than a conditional style sheet?

Thanks,

-Tim
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