[css-d] CSS2.1 User Agent Style Sheet Defaults

[Alan Gresley]

Hello everyone,

To let us move on to more constructive CSS (away from any distractions), 
I would like to bring to your attention this table of CSS2.1 User Agent 
Style Sheet Defaults.




This table is base largely on a table complied by Saloni Mira Rai from 
MS covering Appendix D [1] which has come under recent discussion on the 
CSS WG mailing list [2]. I have added to it and adjusted a few of the 
default values. Since the propose adjustments of the *h1..h6 headings* 
from pixels to ems value hasn't materialized (in any correct manner) I 
find that I have a huge job in getting this correct.

I would please welcome any help with getting this table right (pixels to 
ems value). Please reply offlist with any offers. I have a test case of 
block level elements for this purpose (test with a UA font size setting 
of 16px).




I have this table on my server for the purpose (hope) of a better 
understanding of UA default style sheets. These are the defaults that 
are overridden by *universal resets* and which results in many author 
style sheets becoming more difficult to follow since this requires a 
sequence of chained selectors,

#id #id .class p
#id #id .class p

etc

to build the CSS back up. I believe that CSS wasn't meant to be done in 
this manner.


[1] 
[2] 


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Re: [css-d] Who is this person ?

[Thierry Koblentz]

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> discuss.org] On Behalf Of Thierry Koblentz
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:56 PM
> To: 'Christopher'; 'CSS Discuss'
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> 
> > -Original Message-
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> > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:39 PM
> > To: CSS Discuss
> > Subject: [css-d] Who is this person ?
> >
> > Who is the person who created this template for me?
> >
> > http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/chris.html
> 
> It's David (Laakso).
> Why don't you do a minimum of homework?
> Going through a few posts (he's a regular) you'd have found that domain
name
> in his sig
> 
> Please slow down with the posting or people will start ignoring you (at
> best).
> Thanks.

My apologies for the extra noise, I meant to send this to Christopher

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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Christopher wrote:
> Svend Tofte wrote:
>   
>> 2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>   
>> 
>>> Svend Tofte wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 [snipped]
 Regards,
 Svend
   
 
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi, Steve take a look at the site
>>> 
>>>   
>> I was almost gonna help you, but then ..
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> Then ?
>
>   
I think this is starting to become a game on this list with me.  It's 
all just ping pong replies but nothing I can say OH THAT'S WHY.


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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Svend Tofte wrote:
> 2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> Svend Tofte wrote:
>> 
>>> [snipped]
>>> Regards,
>>> Svend
>>>   
>
>   
>> Hi, Steve take a look at the site
>> 
>
> I was almost gonna help you, but then ..
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Then ?

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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Svend Tofte]

2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Svend Tofte wrote:
>> [snipped]
>> Regards,
>> Svend

> Hi, Steve take a look at the site

I was almost gonna help you, but then ..
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Re: [css-d] Who is this person ?

[Thierry Koblentz]

> -Original Message-
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> discuss.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:39 PM
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> Subject: [css-d] Who is this person ?
> 
> Who is the person who created this template for me?
> 
> http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/chris.html

It's David (Laakso).
Why don't you do a minimum of homework?
Going through a few posts (he's a regular) you'd have found that domain name
in his sig

Please slow down with the posting or people will start ignoring you (at
best).
Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] Who is this person ?

[Christopher]

David Jones wrote:
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:39 PM
>> To: CSS Discuss
>> Subject: [css-d] Who is this person ?
>>
>> Who is the person who created this template for me?
>>
>> http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/chris.html
>> 
>
> Hmmm, if you go to the parent domain and scroll down a bit, you'll see
> his name listed under Contact ... 
>
> David Jones, Content Coordinator, Information and Technology Management,
> Customer Relations - KL PS, (808) 948-5830
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I would like to talk to him, on the list.

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Re: [css-d] Who is this person ?

[David Jones]

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> Who is the person who created this template for me?
> 
> http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/chris.html

Hmmm, if you go to the parent domain and scroll down a bit, you'll see
his name listed under Contact ... 

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[css-d] Who is this person ?

[Christopher]

Who is the person who created this template for me?

http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/chris.html

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Re: [css-d] Past Posts

[claude callender]

Christopher wrote:

> > How can you check past digest posts?
>   
How long is this going to continue?
Claude
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Re: [css-d] Past Posts

[Bill Brown]

Christopher wrote:
> How can you check past digest posts?

Christopher...

Attached to this email (and embedded below) is the email I sent you on
July 23rd detailing exactly how to do just that.

Because I've used all my witty comments on offlist messages related to
your threads, I'm just gonna give you the benefit of the doubt here and
assume that sun spots combined with a shift in Mercury's orbital
rotation preventing you from receiving this.

PREVIOUS MESSAGE:
--
Christopher:

All messages are archived on the list website:
http://www.css-discuss.org/
...by logging in to the "private" archives with your username and
password. This is one of the reasons bottom posting works better than
top posting.

Additionally, MarkMail.org provides a mirror which allows you to view
these messages without logging in. Here's a link to the message you
deleted, found on markmail.org:
http://markmail.org/message/dsnnvis2nhywksfj

And here's the link from the original email:
http://tinyurl.com/5nfdg2

-Bill
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[css-d] Past Posts

[Christopher]

How can you check past digest posts?

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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Svend Tofte]

2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think I realized the problem, I have the #flashbox in a  could
> this be the cause of the problem?

Why don't you try to remove the wrapping div, or otherwise try to
experiment yourself? Never ask a "yes/no" question, because all too
often, these are so trivially easy to find out yourself. "Does this
work?" -> "Well maybe it does, why don't you try?"

> Referring to using floats, to have everything float around to eliminate
> my {body} #topbar that gets cut off
> when I don't use floats.  You are suppose to be able to position the
> floated element using margins on the page or padding
> neither of them work.

You really need to provide some more context. What #topbar? You want
me to backtrack the emails in order to figure out what you're on now?
What's the code.

I know you're "almost" there with your site, but for future reference,
maybe try to heed some of the advice you'll find here
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Regards,
Svend
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Christopher wrote:
> Jim Nannery wrote:
>   
>> Afternoon Christopher
>>
>> You wrote
>>
>> 
>>> Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions
>>> about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
>>> a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger
>>> understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and
>>> although it is
>>> benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that
>>> understanding, >
>>>   
>>> snipped out a bit here
>>>   
>> You need to validate your CSS every time you post a new page.  You 
>> currently [1] have two errors; one that may be having an effect your 
>> #flashbox.
>>
>> It was pointed out in a earlier thread [2] that you *cannot use* 
>> negative padding.  You have padding-top -12px on #flashbox and 
>> padding-left -12px on 
>>
>> I does make *me*  wonder if you *understand*  CSS as well as *you*  
>> think you do.
>>
>> Keep plugging away at it. it's a struggle worth waging
>>
>> Best
>>
>> [1] http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite14.html
>> [2] 
>> http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2008-July/089210.html
>>
>> Jim Nannery
>> www.gotbeebar.com
>>
>>
>> 
> Alright, I cleaned up all my errors.  Now how could I possible get that 
> #flash box to move more to the left
> but keep it whereas the #topbar does not break when the browser is 
> resized as it was doing previously ?
>
>
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I think I realized the problem, I have the #flashbox in a  could 
this be the cause of the problem?
Referring to using floats, to have everything float around to eliminate 
my {body} #topbar that gets cut off
when I don't use floats.  You are suppose to be able to position the 
floated element using margins on the page or padding
neither of them work.
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Bill Brown]

Christopher wrote:
> Alright, I cleaned up all my errors.  Now how could I possible get that 
> #flash box to move more to the left
> but keep it whereas the #topbar does not break when the browser is 
> resized as it was doing previously ?

Christopher,

I read your blog incidentally, available at .

Seriously now...is all of this some kind of a joke?
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Jim Nannery wrote:
> Afternoon Christopher
>
> You wrote
>
>> Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions
>> about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
>> a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger
>> understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and
>> although it is
>> benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that
>> understanding, >
>
>> snipped out a bit here
>
> You need to validate your CSS every time you post a new page.  You 
> currently [1] have two errors; one that may be having an effect your 
> #flashbox.
>
> It was pointed out in a earlier thread [2] that you *cannot use* 
> negative padding.  You have padding-top -12px on #flashbox and 
> padding-left -12px on 
>
> I does make *me*  wonder if you *understand*  CSS as well as *you*  
> think you do.
>
> Keep plugging away at it. it's a struggle worth waging
>
> Best
>
> [1] http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite14.html
> [2] 
> http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2008-July/089210.html
>
> Jim Nannery
> www.gotbeebar.com
>
>
Alright, I cleaned up all my errors.  Now how could I possible get that 
#flash box to move more to the left
but keep it whereas the #topbar does not break when the browser is 
resized as it was doing previously ?


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Re: [css-d] IE6 a:hover issue - all images disappear!!

[Blake]

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:43 AM, French, Angela K (MHTG)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  look at this article and see if it relates to your issue.  It sounds
> like it might:
> http://www.fivesevensix.com/studies/ie6flicker/ .  A google of "IE6
> a:hover images disappear" turned up other returns as well.

Unfortunately that doesn't describe my issue. I've googled long and
hard but not found a proper solution.
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Jim Nannery]

Afternoon Christopher

You wrote

> Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions
> about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
> a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger
> understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and
> although it is
> benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that
> understanding, >

> snipped out a bit here

You need to validate your CSS every time you post a new page.  You currently 
[1] have two errors; one that may be having an effect your #flashbox.

It was pointed out in a earlier thread [2] that you *cannot use* negative 
padding.  You have padding-top -12px on #flashbox and padding-left -12px on 


I does make *me*  wonder if you *understand*  CSS as well as *you*  think 
you do.

Keep plugging away at it. it's a struggle worth waging

Best

[1] http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite14.html
[2] http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2008-July/089210.html

Jim Nannery
www.gotbeebar.com

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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Peter Hyde-Smith]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CSS Discuss" 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs



> I'm just trying to get a site developed in a very short amount of time.
>
> Secondly I appreciate all the help I got up to this point., and even the
> template. I would like to know how to fix it on my HTML instead of using
> a template.
>

Christopher:

I think these are the points Ingo, David, and others, including myself are 
trying to make.

1. This is a list discussing CSS issues.
2. There is a list wiki, http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ and list archives 
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/ that may already cover 
you questions.
3. It is not a CSS tutorial list.
4. It is not a list relevent to discussing or fixing HTML outside of its 
connection to CSS. For that see here, http://webdesign-l.com/
5. It is surely not a list for site development, especially SINCE ADVICE 
HERE IS FREE, NOT PAID FOR.
6. People generally post to the list with their websites already having 
substantially complete and functional HTML and CSS.
7. You came to the list with your site woefully under-developed, and 
yourself seemingly woefully under-resourced.
8. Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency for the 
list.

My recommendations are: do #6, avoid #7 and #8, search #2, adhere to #1. 
You'll get willing assistance instead of being called a troll.

Peter
www.fatpawdesign.com
WIN XP/SP2, IE8/FF3/O9/A11
Mac OS.X, FF


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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

[RePost]

David Hucklesby wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:30:57 -0500, RePost wrote:
>   
>> 1. Is there any way I can get the outer wrapper background to load before 
>> the content?
>> The background image in the outer wrapper does not multiply vertically 
>> (repeat-y) until
>> all the content has loaded. This happens in Firefox and not IE.
>>
>> 
>
> Yes. You can pre-load background images by including them in the
> markup at the top of the page BODY. Apply a width=1, height=0 so
> they don't take up space, and enclose them in a DIV that's positioned
> "off-left" using your favorite method for doing it.
>
> Because in-line images generally load before those declared in CSS,
> this method is pretty effective cross-browser. Just be sure to give
> them a dimension so they are in fact downloaded. I find that the
> 1-pixel width I used above works pretty well. (Hat-tip to Thierry
> for this, from his "TIP" image placement.[1])
>
> [1] 
>
>   
I have to admit defeat here, David, as this routine appears to be way 
over my head.

I have a 20x2000px background image that I want to repeat horizontally. 
I'm really not getting how the TIP method will work with this.

Also, what do you mean by "off-left"? Float:left?

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Re: [css-d] REFORMATTED FOR EMAIL right content 'droping' and gap at top

[good one]

Thank-you David excelente!
 
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:57:29 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> CC: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org> Subject: Re: [css-d] REFORMATTED 
> FOR EMAIL right content 'droping' and gap at top> > good one wrote:> > Hello 
> please can I get some advice on this, I'm a newbie on this css stuff. 1)The 
> div id="cont" drops down2)The whole div id="central" (which contains the cont 
> div) is not closeup ie there is a gap between it and the topnavigation 3)I 
> using a div as clearboth I don't know if that is a correct way of doing it 
> This is the short code that needs no images and can be seen but cutting and 
> pasting if needs be.> > > > Good One,> > You done good. 
> Tripping a little on over-coding, and clearing stuff. > Keep it simple. Code 
> to compliant browsers. Helps to start with a layout > that is known to work 
> cross-browser. Here are some [1].> > This is a spin with your stuff on n.35 
> (checked in ie/7, ie/6, and > compliant browsers...> 
> > > 
> [1]> > As ever,> Evil One> > PS There are 
> resource links on the list wiki that will point you toward > a solution for 
> most any problem.> 
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Re: [css-d] REFORMATTED FOR EMAIL right content 'droping' and gap at top

[David Laakso]

good one wrote:
> Hello please can I get some advice on this, I'm a newbie on this css stuff. 
> 1)The div id="cont" drops down2)The whole div id="central" (which contains 
> the cont div) is not closeup ie there is a gap between it and the 
> topnavigation 3)I using a div as clearboth I don't know if that is a correct 
> way of doing it This is the short code that needs no images and can be seen 
> but cutting and pasting if needs be.



Good One,

You done good. Tripping a little on over-coding, and clearing stuff. 
Keep it simple. Code to compliant browsers. Helps to start with a layout 
that is known to work cross-browser. Here are some [1].

This is a spin with your stuff on n.35 (checked in ie/7, ie/6, and 
compliant browsers...


[1]

As ever,
Evil One

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[css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions 
about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger 
understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and 
although it is
benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that 
understanding, although some of you on the list probably would disagree 
with me, but that is your opinion.
I'm just trying to get a site developed in a very short amount of time. 

Now that I have reached that point and got my site to the point I want 
it, many question me,making me feel uncapable of designing a site.  Recently
I had asked how to get #flashbox in the position that I need ? And how 
come it breaks up in IE7 ? Instead I got "remove this guy", "you're 
wasting everyones time", "learn
CSS".  Although some did help things did not work out as expected so I 
had to re-ask the question not cause I wanted too, but rather I was not 
getting the knowledge I needed.

Secondly I appreciate all the help I got up to this point., and even the 
template. I would like to know how to fix it on my HTML instead of using 
a template. 

If anyone is willing to help me in that manner I am all ears.


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Re: [css-d] IE6 a:hover issue - all images disappear!!

[French, Angela K (MHTG)]

 look at this article and see if it relates to your issue.  It sounds
like it might:
http://www.fivesevensix.com/studies/ie6flicker/ .  A google of "IE6
a:hover images disappear" turned up other returns as well.

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Subject: Re: [css-d] IE6 a:hover issue - all images disappear!!

Blake wrote:
> ...In IE6, when you
> hover over the links all over the images on the page (but not 
> background images) disappear and they don't reappear under any 
> circumstances (apart from a refresh of course). ...
> 
> I am really lost as to why this is happening. Any solutions?
> 
> The code for the nav and sub-nav is below.
>

Can you post an URL of a reduction that is showing the problem, or the
URL of the original page?

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Re: [css-d] David Laakso

[Ingo]

Christopher schrieb am 25.07.2008 06:26

> This is for David Laakso, I was hoping you could tell me what is wrong 
> with my layout

Could someone PLEASE remove the troll from this list?! He's had 'nuff food.


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Re: [css-d] REFORMATTED FOR EMAIL right content 'droping' and gap at top

[good one]

Hello please can I get some advice on this, I'm a newbie on this css stuff. 
1)The div id="cont" drops down2)The whole div id="central" (which contains the 
cont div) is not closeup ie there is a gap between it and the topnavigation 3)I 
using a div as clearboth I don't know if that is a correct way of doing it This 
is the short code that needs no images and can be seen but cutting and pasting 
if needs be.It is validated strict xhtml-I don't have any non-domained hosting 
that I can show you the site live on. Thanks http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" lang="en" > 

site.org.uk

/* universal */
html, body { background-color : #fff; color : #000; margin : 0; padding : 
0;}body {font : 100% tahoma, arial, sans-serif; color : #4d4d4d;}
.clearboth { clear: both }
a {text-decoration: none;} 

/*layout*/
#sitecontainer { float: left; width: 775px; margin-left: 10px;} 

/* topnav and header */
#header { clear: right; background: #ff; float: left; padding-bottom: 13px; 
color: #026d9f; padding-top: 15px}
#sitelogo { padding-left: 20px; padding-right: 19px;}.logo { 
border-top-width:0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; 
border-right-width: 0px;}
#topnav { padding-right : 0; border-top : 4px solid #2B67EF; margin : 0; width 
: auto; clear : both; min-height : 1.0em; height: 1.0em; border-bottom: 3px 
solid #ff;}
#topnav li { display : inline; background : #9D0A6B no-repeat left top; float : 
left;width : 16.705%; height : auto;}
#topnav a { border-right : 1px solid #2B67EF; display : block; font : 90% 
tahoma, arial, sans-serif; color : #fff; text-align : center;}
#topnav a:hover {background: #fcda2e no-repeat left top; text-decoration: none}

 /*center content*/
#central { float: left; width: 100%; padding-top: 0px;}
#contenthome { float: left; width: 544px; }

/* right content */
#cont { float: right; margin-left: 2px; width: 228px; border-top : 0px solid 
#2B67EF;}
.dividerstrip {border-right: #4680C3 1px solid; border-top: #4fa5ca 0px solid; 
font-size: 3pt; background: #017db2; border-left: #2791be 1px solid; 
border-bottom: #005b82 1px solid}
.conth {padding: 10px; font: 80% tahoma, arial, sans-serif; padding-bottom: 
5px; color: #ff; padding-top: 5px; background-color: #2586b3;}
.smallintro {padding: 8px; float: right; width: 218px; font: 90% tahoma, arial, 
sans-serif;}
.smallintro img {padding: 8px; float: left;}

/* footer css */
#footer { clear :both; text-align : center; padding: 10px 0; width : 100%; 
}#footer p {font-size : 75%; line-height: 2; margin-top : 0; margin-bottom : 
0;}





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Re: [css-d] David Laakso

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:26:37 +0100, Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> This is for David Laakso, I was hoping you could tell me what is wrong
> with my layout that you got yours to work good even with IE7, I could
> use your
> template and just adjust it but I'd like to adjust things like my
> #flashbox and get it to look how it looks in FF3 in IE 7 I was hoping
> you could pin point the problems and hopefully
> also the solutions, I would really appreciate it as it would help me
> understand !
>
Christopher,

You are not really being fair with the list and its members.
Over the course of 2 weeks, I stepped you through, off-list, all of the  
questions that you are now reposting.
Maybe you have deleted the close to 400 emails with all of the  
instructions and explanations about both the html structure and the CSS.
For whatever reason you broke the contact at the stage where the test  
pages were in need of commitment from you.
A) Define your navigation
B) Provide specimen content for final adjustment of the layout.
C) Finalisation of the colors and fonts.
D) Testing and adjusting for cross browser conformance, particularly  
MSIE/6.

The evolved specimen pages are still in residence on my server:

The eventual html built version is

http://www.mndhill.com/christest/chris/dh-prodsite-08.html

with a partially width controlled version of the page at

http://www.mndhill.com/christest/chris/dh-prodsite-08a.html

and finally the fully graphic version that you chose to go with at

http://www.mndhill.com/christest/chris/dh-prodsite-2-02.html

You will find that all of the code is fully valid, maybe not as neat as I  
would prefer.
I suggest you look back through the emails for the links given and the css  
explanations that I provided.

I will leave your access to my server available for a further 2 days so  
that you have no difficulty in retrieving the files if you no longer have  
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[css-d] right content 'droping' and gap at top

[good one]

Hello please can I get some advice on this, I'm a newbie on this css stuff.  
1)The div id="cont" drops down
2)The whole div id="central" (which contains the cont div) is not closeup ie 
there is a gap between it and the topnavigation 
3)I using a div as clearboth I don't know if that is a correct way of doing it
 
This is the short code that needs no images and can be seen but cutting and 
pasting if needs be.
It is validated strict xhtml-I don't have any non-domained hosting that I can 
show you the site live on. Thanks
 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" lang="en" >  site.org.uk
html, body { background-color : #fff; color : #000; 
margin : 0; padding : 0;}body {font : 100% tahoma, arial, sans-serif; color : 
#4d4d4d;}.clearboth { clear: both }a {text-decoration: none;}
 
/*layout*/#sitecontainer { float: left; width: 775px; margin-left: 10px;}
 
/* topnav and header */#header { clear: right; background: #ff; float: 
left; padding-bottom: 13px; color: 
#026d9f; padding-top: 15px}#sitelogo { padding-left: 20px; padding-right: 
19px;}.logo { border-top-width:0px; border-left-width: 0px; 
border-bottom-width: 0px; 
border-right-width: 0px;}#topnav { padding-right : 0; border-top : 4px solid 
#2B67EF; margin : 0; width : auto; clear 
: both; min-height : 1.0em; height: 1.0em; border-bottom: 3px solid 
#ff;}#topnav li { display : inline; background : #9D0A6B no-repeat left 
top; float : left;width : 16.705%; height : auto;}#topnav a { border-right : 
1px solid #2B67EF; display : block; font : 90% tahoma, arial, 
sans-serif; color : #fff; text-align : center;}#topnav a:hover {background: 
#fcda2e no-repeat left top; text-decoration: none}
 
/*center content*/#central {  float: left; width: 100%; padding-top: 
0px;}#contenthome { float: left; width: 544px; }
/* right content */#cont { float: right; margin-left: 2px; width: 228px; 
border-top : 0px solid #2B67EF;}.dividerstrip {border-right: #4680C3 1px solid; 
border-top: #4fa5ca 0px solid; font-size: 
3pt; background: #017db2; border-left: #2791be 1px solid; border-bottom: 
#005b82 1px solid}.conth {padding: 10px; font: 80% tahoma, arial, sans-serif; 
padding-bottom: 5px; color: 
#ff; padding-top: 5px; background-color: #2586b3;}.smallintro {padding: 
8px; float: right; width: 218px; font: 90% tahoma, arial, 
sans-serif;}.smallintro img {padding: 8px; float: left;}
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[css-d] Fwd: tests on floats

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http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/floats/
http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/floats/floats.zip

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