Re: [css-d] spacing problem in IE

2009-01-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote:
 http://www.atlas-inspection.com/privacy.html
 
 
 FWIW, for anyone following this thread-- It is not positioned
 correctly in XP IE 6/7 (don't know about Vista or Win/200) and Mac
 Safari (don't know about PC Safari or Chrome).

PC Safari: mildly broken at my end - butts into 'minimum font-size'.
Chrome doesn't have that option, AFAICS.
All alignment lost in the header/nav section if page subjected to the
slightest amount of font resizing in any and all browsers on all OSes.
It's a table-constructed header followed by absolute positioned
column-containers, so weaknesses and failures are as can be expected.

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Re: [css-d] Font size

2009-01-29 Thread David Laakso
Hayden's Harness Attachment wrote:
 David
 Thank you. Firefox was not recognizeing the defaults for some reason. I 
 manually reset and both Firefox and IE are the same. Do you know 
 why`Greenwich Mean Time Says ... is in 21 point font. I would like to knock 
 it to 18point.

 http://www.choroideremia.org/new/crf_header.php

 Angus MacKinnon

   

Reduce the font-size on this selector:
p.time {
font-size: 180%;
}
Why is the font-size declared on html,body set at 14% less than default?
BTW, Google search is throwing a slew of markup errors.
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Re: [css-d] width of scrollable table

2009-01-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jan 29, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jim Albert wrote:

 It seems like the only way I can get table to be clipped properly  
 and
 scroll is to give a pixel length to the width of the DIV.

 I thought I could use:
 DIV style=width: 100%; overflow: auto;
 and I was expecting that the table would fill the width of the browser
 and then scroll horizontally when necessary. But what happens is the
 table expands out to the size needed to display all the images in the
 row of the table and in most cases causing the entire browser to  
 gain a
 horizontal scroll bar.

That is what should happen, and happens in a couple of browsers I  
happen to have open.
Do you have a URL of a page showing the issue (in which browser) ? It  
is _always_ more easy to discuss things with sample code.

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Re: [css-d] spacing problem in IE

2009-01-29 Thread Jody Levinson
Thank you for the comments.

I've been having trouble aligning the fonts in the header and I  
haven't been able to figure out how to make it work right. I want the  
phone numbers to be aligned to the bottom right of the contain they're  
in, but nothing I do seems to work consistently.

I also know I should not combine a table for the header with the rest  
of the layout, but getting the pieces to stay tightly together -  
especially on the home page of the site which has a flash animation -  
has been simply beyond me. Everything I tried failed, but I know for  
sure that a table will keep the header pieces on the same line.

I've really run way way way over budget on this job and am just trying  
to get it working reasonably.

Thanks again,

Jody

On Jan 29, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

 David Laakso wrote:
 http://www.atlas-inspection.com/privacy.html


 FWIW, for anyone following this thread-- It is not positioned
 correctly in XP IE 6/7 (don't know about Vista or Win/200) and Mac
 Safari (don't know about PC Safari or Chrome).

 PC Safari: mildly broken at my end - butts into 'minimum font-size'.
 Chrome doesn't have that option, AFAICS.
 All alignment lost in the header/nav section if page subjected to the
 slightest amount of font resizing in any and all browsers on all OSes.
 It's a table-constructed header followed by absolute positioned
 column-containers, so weaknesses and failures are as can be expected.

 regards
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[css-d] problem with IE7, suckerfish and flash video

2009-01-29 Thread Chris Kavinsky
I'm running into a real poser and hopefully someone can help me out.
I'm building a site using Son of Suckerfish dropdowns for the main
navigation. One one page, I have a Flash video imbedded at the top of
the content area where the dropdowns overlap. I added
wmode=transparent to get the dropdowns from hiding behind the video,
but now have run into a strange problem with IE7. The page initally
displays fine, but when I hover over a nav item to activate a
dropdown, IE7 hides the video and all content below (everything within
the same div from the video to the end). I haven't the first clue
what's going on. Anyone run into this before, and/or have an idea of
how to get IE7 to behave? Here's the link:

http://associationdatabase.com/aws/ORAEF/pt/sp/prostart_cafe

CSS link: http://209.235.200.149/screen.css
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Re: [css-d] width of scrollable table

2009-01-29 Thread Jim Albert
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 On Jan 29, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Jim Albert wrote:
 
 It seems like the only way I can get table to be clipped properly  
 and
 scroll is to give a pixel length to the width of the DIV.

 I thought I could use:
 DIV style=width: 100%; overflow: auto;
 and I was expecting that the table would fill the width of the browser
 and then scroll horizontally when necessary. But what happens is the
 table expands out to the size needed to display all the images in the
 row of the table and in most cases causing the entire browser to  
 gain a
 horizontal scroll bar.
 
 That is what should happen, and happens in a couple of browsers I  
 happen to have open.
 Do you have a URL of a page showing the issue (in which browser) ? It  
 is _always_ more easy to discuss things with sample code.

In creating a very simple html page to demonstrate the problem, I 
realized that the width set at 100% does work correctly in my very small 
example.

So, the issue must be with other html on the page where I am using the 
scrolling table.

If it looks like the issue I am experiencing involves CSS and is on 
topic for this maling list, I'll post more information. But right now 
I'm leading to something html related, maybe a table issue.

Thank you for confirming that the the scroll on a width of 100% does 
work the way I had expected.

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Re: [css-d] problem with IE7, suckerfish and flash video

2009-01-29 Thread Ingo Chao
2009/1/29 Chris Kavinsky ckavin...@gmail.com

 ... when I hover over a nav item to activate a
 dropdown, IE7 hides the video and all content below (everything within
 the same div from the video to the end).

 http://associationdatabase.com/aws/ORAEF/pt/sp/prostart_cafe


I think this is an IE7 guillotine (a triggering hovered element, followed by
2 uncleared floats, and one of the floats is cut to the length of the other)
like described here
http://css-class.com/articles/explorer/guillotine/index.htm
try one of the fixes like containing the floats by an additional wrapper
with haslayout or insert a solid clearing element after the floats. Or start
with unfloating the second float, subcontainer.
Check in IE6, too.

Ingo
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Re: [css-d] Font size

2009-01-29 Thread Hayden's Harness Attachment
David

 Reduce the font-size on this selector:
 p.time {
 font-size: 180%;
 }

Thank you. I missed that.

 Why is the font-size declared on html,body set at 14% less than default?

Probably an error.

 BTW, Google search is throwing a slew of markup errors.

I was trying to comment this out so I could validate. Once commented out I was 
going to work on this horiable code.

 PS Please reply to the list not just me.

Sorry. A late at night mistake. Just did CTRL + R for reply and never checked 
the TO: field.

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[css-d] Fwd: text positioning

2009-01-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh


Begin forwarded message:

 On Thursday 29 January 2009 7:28:51 pm you wrote:
 On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:14 AM, David McGlone wrote:
 I've been doing a lot of CSS coding lately and I'm having a slight
 problem
 with text positioning. I cannot seem to position any of the words
 after the
 first word.

 Here's the code I'm using:
 #text {
 padding: 0px 0px 10px 5px;
 position: relative; left: 10px; bottom: 2px; top: 2px;
 font-weight: bold;
 font-family: helvetica, impact, san-serif;
 font-size: 14pt;
 }

 I'm thinking that even though there are more than 1 words, closing
 the tag
 after each word does not make it a whole new box that can be moved
 individually.

 Do you have a URL for a test case ?

 http://www.dmcentral.net/eweb

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Re: [css-d] text positioning

2009-01-29 Thread Martyn Merrett
Check out http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/index.htm for useful
list/nav tips :)

~Mx
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2009/1/30 Martyn Merrett mx.css...@googlemail.com:
 Would it not be much easier to have a single button as each links 
 background?

 i.e.

 ul
 li class=btna href=foo.phpFoo link/a/li
 li class=btna href=bar.phpBar link/a/li
 /ul

 CSS:

 .btn {
 display: block;
 width : 200px;
 height : 30px;
 margin: 5px 0px 0px 0px;
 background: url('button.png');
 }

 This way you can play around with the margins to get them spaced perfectly.

 ~Mx
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 2009/1/30 David McGlone da...@dmcentral.net:
 On Thursday 29 January 2009 7:22:31 pm you wrote:
 From what I guess you are trying to do is have multiple words in a
 specific layout.
 You'd need to provide individual styles for each one.

 Something like:

 div id=text
 p class=pos1Hello/pp class=pos2World!/p
 /div

 CSS:

 #text {
 font-weight: bold;
 font-family: helvetica, impact, san-serif;
 font-size: 14pt;
 }
 .pos1 {
 padding: 0px 0px 10px 5px;
 position: relative; left: 10px; bottom: 2px; top: 2px;
 }
 .pos2 {
 padding: 0px 0px 10px 5px;
 position: relative; left: 20px; bottom: 5px; top: 5px;
 }

 Maybe?

 You got the idea right. What I did was made some images of buttons and
 positioning the text on them.  look here. http://www.dmcentral.net/eweb

 If I have to make a bunch of CSS tags, I'll just move the buttons to fit the
 default, but that isn't something I want to do because I can't get the 
 buttons
 to look good if they are closer together.


 2009/1/30 David McGlone da...@dmcentral.net:
  Hi everyone.
 
  I've been doing a lot of CSS coding lately and I'm having a slight
  problem with text positioning. I cannot seem to position any of the words
  after the first word.
 
  Here's the code I'm using:
  #text {
  padding: 0px 0px 10px 5px;
  position: relative; left: 10px; bottom: 2px; top: 2px;
  font-weight: bold;
  font-family: helvetica, impact, san-serif;
  font-size: 14pt;
  }
 
  I'm thinking that even though there are more than 1 words, closing the
  tag after each word does not make it a whole new box that can be moved
  individually.
 
  Am I thinking correctly?


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Re: [css-d] text positioning

2009-01-29 Thread David Laakso
David McGlone wrote:
 Hi everyone.

 I've been doing a lot of CSS coding lately and I'm having a slight problem 
 with text positioning. I cannot seem to position any of the words after the 
 first word.

 Here's the code I'm using:
 #text {
 padding: 0px 0px 10px 5px;
 position: relative; left: 10px; bottom: 2px; top: 2px;
 font-weight: bold;
 font-family: helvetica, impact, san-serif;
 font-size: 14pt;
 }

 I'm thinking that even though there are more than 1 words, closing the tag 
 after each word does not make it a whole new box that can be moved 
 individually.

 Am I thinking correctly?

 thanks,
   

It would yield four blocks flush left stacked vertically (and would be 
invalid html unless you change the id to a class).
You could use multiple classes to move the individual blocks.
Something like this (off the top of my head and not tested)
css
p {margin: 0;}
.text {border: 1px solid red;}
.c1 {margin: 0 0 0 20px;}
.c2 {margin: 20px 0 0 100px;}
.c3 {margin: 100 px 0 0 50px;}
.c4 {margin: 30px 0 0 75px;}
html
div class=text  c1pone/p/div
div class=text  c2ptwo/p/div
div class=text  c3pthree/p/div
div class=text  c4pfour/p/div

As always a clickable link to your attempt or and image that shows 
whatever it is you are trying to do will get you better answers...

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Re: [css-d] text positioning

2009-01-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David McGlone wrote:

 I'm thinking that even though there are more than 1 words, closing 
 the tag after each word does not make it a whole new box that can be 
 moved individually.
 
 Am I thinking correctly?

No, I'm afraid your thinking is flawed for positioning bits of text on
top of a fixed background (image).

For the left column only: if you want to use a fixed background for your
text - links or whatever, this is the most steady method...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/dmg/test_09_0130.html
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/dmg/test_09_0130_files/styles00.css
...where individual paragraphs are absolute positioned.

Those paragraphs will adjust vertically for font resizing, but long
lines will overflow horizontally pretty quickly.

If you want links instead, just replace the ps with as.


Sidenote:

The entire http://www.dmcentral.net/eweb/ shows that you're relying on
what you see for browser-defaults at your end - your layout has no
flexibility. Not a good idea since that means your layout is doomed to
fail...
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_37.html
...and I do not think you want that :-)

You're also declaring a number of properties/values back to their
default-values. Although there's no harm in doing so, you get a lot of
unnecessary declarations in there.

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