Re: [css-d] An easier way? correction

2009-07-26 Thread David Laakso
David McGlone wrote:
>
 here is the page:
 http://www.dmcentral.net/test/test.php

 CSS
 http://www.dmcentral.net/test/css/test.css
 
>>
> Thanks David, after I sent this e-mail I decided to validate and the 
> validator 
> spit out 3 errors that pointed me in the right direction, and I got it to 
> look 
> pretty much correct in IE7.



That's nice. Most of us attempt to get stuff looking right in compliant 
browsers: IE/8, Opera, FF, Safari. Correction, if any, is then given to 
IE.7. IE/6 is sometimes more difficult.




>  I also downloaded Opera and took a look and I'm 
> thinking "oh crap" in Opera and IE7 the header text and subtext are in 2 
> different places, but in firefox it is perfectly correct.
>   

Get it to look right in IE/8, Opera, FF, Safari. Forget IE/7. More 
likely then not, it will just follow suit.


> how did you get them screenshots? I'm sorry, but I am pretty new to CSS and I 
> don't know all the tricks yet.
>   

Captures (screenshots) are sort of pictures of what is on the screen. 
These can usually be made from an application provided with your OS. 
This has nothing to do with CSS.




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Re: [css-d] An easier way? correction

2009-07-26 Thread David McGlone
On Sunday 26 July 2009 09:07:47 pm David Laakso wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> >> My problem is that I cannot seem to arrange the header in IE7, I have
> >> not checked in IE8 or IE6. It looks great in firefox.
> >>
> >> so far in IE7 the words "countertop workshop" will not follow my font
> >> scheme I want to use, and neither will the subtext "knowledge skill
> >> opportunity"
> >>
> >> Also the text and subtext are supposed to be on the
> >
> >  I meant to say *right* in the following
> > sentence
> >
> >> here is the page:
> >> http://www.dmcentral.net/test/test.php
> >>
> >> CSS
> >> http://www.dmcentral.net/test/css/test.css
>
> This is how your page looks in Firefox, Opera, and Safari:
> 
> IE/8 is similar except the text-image does not appear.
>
> Name of the game is code to compliant browsers (IE/7 is not among them) :
> IE/8, FF, Safari, and Opera.
>
> It will be easier to provide help if we know what it is supposed to look
> like. "A picture is worth a thousand words."

Thanks David, after I sent this e-mail I decided to validate and the validator 
spit out 3 errors that pointed me in the right direction, and I got it to look 
pretty much correct in IE7. I also downloaded Opera and took a look and I'm 
thinking "oh crap" in Opera and IE7 the header text and subtext are in 2 
different places, but in firefox it is perfectly correct.

how did you get them screenshots? I'm sorry, but I am pretty new to CSS and I 
don't know all the tricks yet.

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Re: [css-d] CSS check for qippo.com

2009-07-26 Thread David Laakso
Dirlinx wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm working on comparison site (http://www.qippo.com/) using Ajax. Looks like 
> everything Ok, but I
> can't check it in IE6. Please, can some one look on it and say if
> there any problems?
> Thanks!
> 
> Regards, Tony.
> http://www.qippo.com/
>   


In IE/6 it is just like most the other browsers: fast-loading, svelte, 
and sexy. Some users, in some browsers, may experience,  vertical 
cross-over of the top two rows with discretion to scale the fonts. You 
may want to validate when you can get around to it.
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Re: [css-d] CSS check for qippo.com

2009-07-26 Thread UIT DEV
OK - here's my comment:  You just spammed another board with this
site.  Here is your spam message from the other board.  You think
we're all stupid?

from: Tony Peltier 
reply-to: Konstantin Greshnikov ,
"thel...@lists.evolt.org" 
tothel...@lists.evolt.org
dateSun, Jul 26, 2009 at 19:59
subject[thelist] New project Qippo.com
mailing listthelist.lists.evolt.org


19:59 (1 hour ago)

Hi,
Glad to be subscribed fro this mailing list. I found a newly started
project http://www.qippo.com/
Will be glad to receive any comments
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 http://www.qippo.com/

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 20:44, Dirlinx  wrote:
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Re: [css-d] An easier way? correction

2009-07-26 Thread David Laakso
David McGlone wrote:
>
>> My problem is that I cannot seem to arrange the header in IE7, I have not
>> checked in IE8 or IE6. It looks great in firefox.
>>
>> so far in IE7 the words "countertop workshop" will not follow my font
>> scheme I want to use, and neither will the subtext "knowledge skill
>> opportunity"
>>
>> Also the text and subtext are supposed to be on the
>> 
>
>  I meant to say *right* in the following sentence
>   

>> here is the page:
>> http://www.dmcentral.net/test/test.php
>>
>> CSS
>> http://www.dmcentral.net/test/css/test.css
>> 


This is how your page looks in Firefox, Opera, and Safari:

IE/8 is similar except the text-image does not appear.

Name of the game is code to compliant browsers (IE/7 is not among them) :
IE/8, FF, Safari, and Opera.

It will be easier to provide help if we know what it is supposed to look 
like. "A picture is worth a thousand words."

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[css-d] CSS check for qippo.com

2009-07-26 Thread Dirlinx
Hi,
I'm working on comparison site (http://www.qippo.com/) using Ajax. Looks like 
everything Ok, but I
can't check it in IE6. Please, can some one look on it and say if
there any problems?
Thanks!

Regards, Tony.
http://www.qippo.com/

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Re: [css-d] An easier way? correction

2009-07-26 Thread David McGlone
On Sunday 26 July 2009 08:17:01 pm David McGlone wrote:
> On Sunday 26 July 2009 05:32:25 pm Bobby Jack wrote:
> > --- On Sun, 7/26/09, David McGlone  wrote:
> > > I know everyone here prefers that when a question is asked,
> > > that the poster upload an example on the web.
> > >
> > > Well is there any other way this could be accomplished? In
> > > order for me to put the work i've done on the internet would take too
> > > long because of the databases etc, etc.
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Since this list is all about CSS, what we really care about is the final
> > markup and CSS, rather than how it's generated. If you have a specific
> > question, could you not just put up the relevant page(s) as static files?
>
> I understand. I went on and stripped everything except the problem area.
>
> My problem is that I cannot seem to arrange the header in IE7, I have not
> checked in IE8 or IE6. It looks great in firefox.
>
> so far in IE7 the words "countertop workshop" will not follow my font
> scheme I want to use, and neither will the subtext "knowledge skill
> opportunity"
>
> Also the text and subtext are supposed to be on the

 I meant to say *right* in the following sentence

> left, but everything I
> have tried nothing will move it to where I want it. In IE7 these words will
> not budge from the upper left corner of the header box.
>
> finally, the logo box will not position very good in IE7 either, it's
> always off on some side or another depending on how I code the selector.
>
> here is the page:
> http://www.dmcentral.net/test/test.php
>
> CSS
> http://www.dmcentral.net/test/css/test.css

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Re: [css-d] An easier way?

2009-07-26 Thread David McGlone
On Sunday 26 July 2009 05:32:25 pm Bobby Jack wrote:
> --- On Sun, 7/26/09, David McGlone  wrote:
> > I know everyone here prefers that when a question is asked,
> > that the poster upload an example on the web.
> >
> > Well is there any other way this could be accomplished? In
> > order for me to put the work i've done on the internet would take too
> > long because of the databases etc, etc.
>
> Hi David,
>
> Since this list is all about CSS, what we really care about is the final
> markup and CSS, rather than how it's generated. If you have a specific
> question, could you not just put up the relevant page(s) as static files?

I understand. I went on and stripped everything except the problem area.

My problem is that I cannot seem to arrange the header in IE7, I have not 
checked in IE8 or IE6. It looks great in firefox.

so far in IE7 the words "countertop workshop" will not follow my font scheme I 
want to use, and neither will the subtext "knowledge skill opportunity"

Also the text and subtext are supposed to be on the left, but everything I 
have tried nothing will move it to where I want it. In IE7 these words will 
not budge from the upper left corner of the header box.

finally, the logo box will not position very good in IE7 either, it's always 
off 
on some side or another depending on how I code the selector.

here is the page:
http://www.dmcentral.net/test/test.php

CSS
http://www.dmcentral.net/test/css/test.css

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Re: [css-d] An easier way?

2009-07-26 Thread Michael Adams
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:24:59 -0400
Came this utterance formulated by David McGlone to my mailbox:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I know everyone here prefers that when a question is asked, that the
> poster upload an example on the web.
> 
> Well is there any other way this could be accomplished? In order for
> me to put the work i've done on the internet would take too long
> because of the databases etc, etc.

Save the page from Firefox and check your CSS works in it.

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Re: [css-d] stand-down :: peekaboo?

2009-07-26 Thread David Laakso
Alan Gresley wrote:
>
>> At 1:57 PM -0400 7/25/09, David Laakso wrote:
>>> Repeatedly clicking the digit navigation /or/ the images will 
>>> eventually
>>> throw a blank page.
>>> Reload will bring back the page and its content.
>>> Reproducible always in:
>>>
>>> Browser:
>>> IE/6.0
>>> OS:
>>> Mac 10.4 Parallels XP (standalone and ieTester)
>>> PC XP (standalone and ieTester)
>>>
>>> uri
>>> 
>>> css
>>> 
>>>
>>> Now what I'll do?
>>
>>
>
> Hello David,
>
> I can reproduce the bug in a bundled version on IE6`on Windows XP. 
> Took me ages though and happens at a numerous rate of tries. On one 
> occasion it took 17 clicks and another time it took 3 clicks. The bug 
> causes IE6 to show a completely blank page. This is not a peekaboo bug 
> since the normal pages do not have peekaboo activity.
>
> The solution David, I guess you would like my take. Hide this styling 
> from IE6 or go for a simpler layout. Let me just run away now. ;-)
>
>




Hide what styling? If I knew exactly what "styling" was causing the 
problem, the solution might be easier to find. In the meantime, I've 
thrown most every hasLayout fix at it-- except for the right one (s), on 
the right selector (s). I begin to wonder if it has anything at all to 
do with styling. As far as a simpler layout is concerned, we're not 
exactly looking at a Drupal nightmare driven into oblivion with 25 
whacked stylesheets :-) .   Whatever IE/6es little problem is, with this 
simple layout, it certainly is being elusive in yielding to correction 
from this end.

Thank you for your reply (and putting up with my frustration with this).

Westmoreland














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Re: [css-d] Removing the Blank Line/Space between Paragraphs

2009-07-26 Thread Michael Adams
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:22:59 -0400
Came this utterance formulated by Bob Rosenberg to my mailbox:

> At 16:13 +0900 on 07/26/2009, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote about Re: 
> [css-d] Removing the Blank Line/Space between Paragraph:
> 
> >On Jul 26, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bob Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> >>  I use the text-indent CSS parm to indent the first line of each
> >>  paragraph. I have been requested to remove the blank line/space
> >that>  occurs between paragraphs triggered by the  sequence of
> >tags>  so the lines occur as one block of text with only the
> >indention and>  the short line at the end of each paragraph signaling
> >the paragraphs.>
> >>  Is there a CSS parm I can use to eliminate the blank line between
> >the>  paragraphs and, if so, what parm do I use?
> >
> >parm ? You probably mean 'property'.
> 
> Yes. I am just used to thinking of them as parameters (like with HTML 
> Tags). They are basically the same thing.
> 

They have different names for a reason. Oh, and what most people call
tags in HTML are elements. Most elements have two tags, opening and
closing, some like HR do not have two.



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Re: [css-d] An easier way?

2009-07-26 Thread Karl Hardisty
On 27/07/2009, at 9:32 AM, Bobby Jack wrote:

>
> --- On Sun, 7/26/09, David McGlone  wrote:
>
>> I know everyone here prefers that when a question is asked,
>> that the poster upload an example on the web.
>>
>> Well is there any other way this could be accomplished? In
>> order for me to put the work i've done on the internet would take too
>> long because of the databases etc, etc.
>
> Hi David,
>
> Since this list is all about CSS, what we really care about is the  
> final markup and CSS, rather than how it's generated. If you have a  
> specific question, could you not just put up the relevant page(s) as  
> static files?
>
> - Bobby


Hi David,

In similar situations, we use sitesucker - http://www.sitesucker.us/ -  
to retrieve and localise generated pages for perusal (as suggested by  
Bobby).

Karl


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Re: [css-d] An easier way?

2009-07-26 Thread Bobby Jack

--- On Sun, 7/26/09, David McGlone  wrote:

> I know everyone here prefers that when a question is asked,
> that the poster upload an example on the web.
> 
> Well is there any other way this could be accomplished? In
> order for me to put the work i've done on the internet would take too
> long because of the databases etc, etc.

Hi David,

Since this list is all about CSS, what we really care about is the final markup 
and CSS, rather than how it's generated. If you have a specific question, could 
you not just put up the relevant page(s) as static files?

- Bobby
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Re: [css-d] Removing the Blank Line/Space between Paragraphs

2009-07-26 Thread Bob Rosenberg
At 16:13 +0900 on 07/26/2009, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote about Re: 
[css-d] Removing the Blank Line/Space between Paragraph:

>On Jul 26, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bob Rosenberg wrote:
>
>>  I use the text-indent CSS parm to indent the first line of each
>>  paragraph. I have been requested to remove the blank line/space that
>>  occurs between paragraphs triggered by the  sequence of tags
>>  so the lines occur as one block of text with only the indention and
>>  the short line at the end of each paragraph signaling the paragraphs.
>>
>>  Is there a CSS parm I can use to eliminate the blank line between the
>>  paragraphs and, if so, what parm do I use?
>
>parm ? You probably mean 'property'.

Yes. I am just used to thinking of them as parameters (like with HTML 
Tags). They are basically the same thing.

>p {margin:0;} ought to do what you want.
>

Thanks. That did it.

>
>Philippe
>---
>Philippe Wittenbergh
>http://l-c-n.com/

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[css-d] An easier way?

2009-07-26 Thread David McGlone
Hi everyone,

I know everyone here prefers that when a question is asked, that the poster 
upload an example on the web.

Well is there any other way this could be accomplished? In order for me to put 
the work i've done on the internet would take too long because of the 
databases etc, etc.

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http://www.dmcentral.net
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Re: [css-d] Resend: margin-left 200px fails in IE7 for a 2 column float fluid layout

2009-07-26 Thread Don Spark
Thank you Alan

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Alan Gresley wrote:
> ...You have this basic markup.
>
> 
>   side text 
>   content 
> 
>
> If this was.
>
>  side text 
> 
>   content 
> 
>
> It would be a much more simpler approach than making IE7- bugged out.

Okay. Would I achieve the same advantage if I do not style that , is it effectively disabled? Or, use {display:none;}?
And, go with this instead:

 side text 

 content 


I am constrained by working with the html template of this wordpress
framework html. I can over-ride it. (wordpress is designed for that).
But it is simpler for me to work it out in the CSS.

> Yes, if you want to support IE6 and IE7 then maybe modify your markup.

I don't need it to be perfect in IE6 and IE7, just readable. Let me
know what needs modification or what to look for.

> In my testing IE6 is really broken and IE7 is a little bit better. This is
> partially because IE6 is in quirks mode due to your XML prolog.

You are beyond my depth here on the full purpose and function of the
XML prolog and the implications of going into quirks mode. Since IE6
is about the limit of how far backward compatible I am working for and
doesnt need to be perfect, I can probably change or get rid of the XML
prolog but I don't know what I would be losing

> Also you have the double float margin bug [1] in a few places.
> Firstly I had create a test case to understand the bug you demo'd. Secondly
> I had to provide one fix for the bug...

excellent, I see what you are doing there.

> Please note that I have removed all resets on elements.

You lost me. I don't see changes to the layout DIVs. If you tell me
which kinds of elements you removed resets on, I will probably grok
your point.

> Are they really needed? This best road to learn CSS is to use less CSS to 
> begin with.

I will go for less now. The layout in it's present form was my idea
for getting a handle on the basic layout css...perhaps not the best
idea. I will set up my draft now as simple as I can. Here is a
screenshot of my draft template
http://modernia.net/oh/ohlonedraftscreenshot.jpg
This version has the content column split into two columns which Will
be needed sometimes.

Don
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Re: [css-d] stand-down :: peekaboo?

2009-07-26 Thread Alan Gresley
tedd wrote:
> At 1:57 PM -0400 7/25/09, David Laakso wrote:
>> Repeatedly clicking the digit navigation /or/ the images will eventually
>> throw a blank page.
>> Reload will bring back the page and its content.
>> Reproducible always in:
>>
>> Browser:
>> IE/6.0
>> OS:
>> Mac 10.4 Parallels XP (standalone and ieTester)
>> PC XP (standalone and ieTester)
>>
>> uri
>> 
>> css
>> 
>>
>> Now what I'll do?
> 
> Why do anything? People who over-click deserve what they get.
> 
> The only exception is in purchasing where double clicking may result 
> in double buying -- a problem I encountered once and solved it via 
> javascript.
> 
> Side note: While double clicking I noticed that the "style" graphic 
> on the left rotates. I personally find that distracting because the 
> reason why I'm clicking stuff is to review your work -- in my mind, 
> only that should change (plus page number). I think 1,3,5,7,9 is 
> better presentation than 1,2,3,4,5.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> tedd

Hello David,

I can reproduce the bug in a bundled version on IE6`on Windows XP. Took 
me ages though and happens at a numerous rate of tries. On one occasion 
it took 17 clicks and another time it took 3 clicks. The bug causes IE6 
to show a completely blank page. This is not a peekaboo bug since the 
normal pages do not have peekaboo activity.

The solution David, I guess you would like my take. Hide this styling 
from IE6 or go for a simpler layout. Let me just run away now. ;-)


Hello Tedd,

You wrote, "People who over-click deserve what they get." Not with this 
bug. All I'm doing is selecting each page in order of links.


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Re: [css-d] question on fix for IE6 min-width issue

2009-07-26 Thread David Butler
On 7/25/2009 3:30 PM, G.Sørtun wrote:
 >  David Butler wrote:>
 > > body { width:expression(d=document.compatMode=="CSS1Compat"?
 > > documentElement:document) &&(d.clientWidth<501?"500px":"auto");}
 > > What does the first part of this expression accomplish?
 > >
 > You mean the part of the expression that checks if IE6 is in standard 
mode (CSS1 compatibility mode) or not ?

Hi Georg,

Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm referring to compat check. I don't 
understand the syntax. Can you step me through the part starting with 
"d=" up through the < (less than) operator?

BTW, I visited your site and found lots of useful information that 
relates to my situtation. Thanks!

David
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Re: [css-d] stand-down :: peekaboo?

2009-07-26 Thread tedd
At 1:57 PM -0400 7/25/09, David Laakso wrote:
>Repeatedly clicking the digit navigation /or/ the images will eventually
>throw a blank page.
>Reload will bring back the page and its content.
>Reproducible always in:
>
>Browser:
>IE/6.0
>OS:
>Mac 10.4 Parallels XP (standalone and ieTester)
>PC XP (standalone and ieTester)
>
>uri
>
>css
>
>
>Now what I'll do?

Why do anything? People who over-click deserve what they get.

The only exception is in purchasing where double clicking may result 
in double buying -- a problem I encountered once and solved it via 
javascript.

Side note: While double clicking I noticed that the "style" graphic 
on the left rotates. I personally find that distracting because the 
reason why I'm clicking stuff is to review your work -- in my mind, 
only that should change (plus page number). I think 1,3,5,7,9 is 
better presentation than 1,2,3,4,5.

Cheers,

tedd

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Re: [css-d] stand-down :: peekaboo?

2009-07-26 Thread MEM

> >> Repeatedly clicking the digit navigation /or/ the images will
> >> eventually
> >> throw a blank page.
> >> Reload will bring back the page and its content.
> >> Reproducible always in:
> >>
> >> Browser:
> >> IE/6.0
> >> OS:
> >> Mac 10.4 Parallels XP (standalone and ieTester)
> >> PC XP (standalone and ieTester)
> >>
> >> uri
> >> 
> >> css
> >> 
> >>
> >
> > I have read and re-read the post title, just to see if, with David
> Laakso,
> > there were no RE: before the subject.
> >
> > I have tried to reproduce it, but all seems all right here on the
> following
> > scenario:
> > ieTester - IE6 - XP
> > Also ok in ieTester - IE6 - Vista
> >
> > I have clicked like a fool. Never seen a blank page.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Márcio
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> The issue explained above is still a problem on this end in XP IE/6.0.
> 
> Thank you for your reply.
> 


I cannot reproduce, hence, cannot help that much on solving the issue since,
I don't have the knowledge to repair a problem without testing it. 
I have found this on peekaboo but, who hasn't? :s
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html

The content that disappears are only the images? If so, we can read on
several forums here and there, that a 'position:relative;' on img, solved
some cases. 

I would ask for a third person to try to reproduce this error. Just to make
sure we are not on a more-or-less Cervantes Quest. :)

Anyone else... ? ~:D


Marcio


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Re: [css-d] Resend: margin-left 200px fails in IE7 for a 2 column float fluid layout

2009-07-26 Thread Alan Gresley
Don Spark wrote:
> Thanks all,
> 
> Alan Gresley wrote:
>> Don, I think this may fix your layout but be warned, adding hasLayout may
>> cause other issues.
>>
>> *+html #content {height:1%;} /* fix for IE7 */
>> * html #content {height:1%;} /* fix for IE6- */
> 
> This fix did not change solved the positioning problem between the
> sidebar area and the content area in IE7 (or IE5-6 but those not my
> high priority).
> This fix solve one problem putting #content where it belongs in IE5-6.
> Previously, it was stretched to the viewport.
> (using browsershots.org because I am on a MAC)
> 
> Wow Alan. Sounds like you are writing a good CSS book. Any suggestions
> to modifying my approach here that will have fewer issues? In it's
> present state, I am just working to establish an optimum CSS layout
> for a blog/cms with a static sidebar and a fluid body, header, footer

Hello Don,

Yes, if you want to support IE6 and IE7 then maybe modify your markup. 
In my testing IE6 is really broken and IE7 is a little bit better. This 
is partially because IE6 is in quirks mode due to your XML prolog. Also 
you have the double float margin bug [1] in a few places.

Firstly I had create a test case to understand the bug you demo'd. 
Secondly I had to provide one fix for the bug. I have now been able to 
now used your code and some IE hackery.




The fix is another IE7- bug [2] [3 exp:5b]. You could say it was the 
last life line you had since your code is not IE7- friendly.

Please note that I have removed all resets on elements. Are they really 
needed? This best road to learn CSS is to use less CSS to begin with.

BTW, IE7 and IE6 now shows the yellow background of div#content around 
the content area and not just a small horizontal strip at the top. This 
is because any fix for div#content for the margin-left to work requires 
the box to have layout in some form. This causes div#content in IE7- to 
now contain all floats within. You have this basic markup.


side text 
content 


If this was.

 side text 

content 


It would be a much more simpler approach than making IE7- bugged out.


1. 
2. 
3. 



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Re: [css-d] background-color : transparent; showing up as white in ie6 & 7 and AOL 9.1

2009-07-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:13 PM, lodewijk andré de la porte wrote:

>>> What's this about? Hex code for transparency? I like the sound of  
>>> this
>>> but it's the first I have heard
>>>
>>> I notice you have put 'rgba' is that for alpha? Can I have opaque
>>> colours too?
>>
>> of course:
>> p {background: rgba(0,0,0,.8); color: rgba(255,255,255,1);}
>>
>> 0 is fully transparent, 1 is fully opaque. the 'a' in rgba means  
>> alpha-
>> channel (transparency)
>> 
>> doesn't work in IE 6, 7 & 8, though.
>
>
> Doesn't the keyword transparent ring any bells? just saying  
> background:
> transparent; should work in any browser.

IE 6 (and to a lesser extend IE 7) has (very) limited support for that  
keyword anyway.

p {border: medium solid transparent;} gives interesting effects in  
those browsers (should work in IE 7, but I saw it doing something  
stupid recently; don't remember the exact context though.

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Re: [css-d] background-color : transparent; showing up as white in ie6 & 7 and AOL 9.1

2009-07-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jul 26, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Chris Blake wrote:

> What's this about? Hex code for transparency? I like the sound of this
> but it's the first I have heard
>
> I notice you have put 'rgba' is that for alpha? Can I have opaque
> colours too?

of course:
p {background: rgba(0,0,0,.8); color: rgba(255,255,255,1);}

0 is fully transparent, 1 is fully opaque. the 'a' in rgba means alpha- 
channel (transparency)

doesn't work in IE 6, 7 & 8, though.

PS - bottom posting, please

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Re: [css-d] Removing the Blank Line/Space between Paragraphs

2009-07-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jul 26, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bob Rosenberg wrote:

> I use the text-indent CSS parm to indent the first line of each
> paragraph. I have been requested to remove the blank line/space that
> occurs between paragraphs triggered by the  sequence of tags
> so the lines occur as one block of text with only the indention and
> the short line at the end of each paragraph signaling the paragraphs.
>
> Is there a CSS parm I can use to eliminate the blank line between the
> paragraphs and, if so, what parm do I use?

parm ? You probably mean 'property'.

p {margin:0;} ought to do what you want.


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Re: [css-d] background-color : transparent; showing up as white in ie6 & 7 and AOL 9.1

2009-07-26 Thread Chris Blake
Hello,

What's this about? Hex code for transparency? I like the sound of this  
but it's the first I have heard

I notice you have put 'rgba' is that for alpha? Can I have opaque  
colours too?



On 26/07/2009, at 9:52 AM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

>
> On Jul 26, 2009, at 3:09 AM, Sandy wrote:
>
>> I didn't realize that there is a colour code for transparent! Do you
>> happen to know the hex?
>
>
> 
> It cannot be translated to hex (hex cannot express transparency).
> As the spec mentions, it is functionally equivalent to (and has a
> computed value of) rgba(0,0,0,0).
>
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