[css-d] [Fwd: Re: [#24488699] Anchor offset ?]

2010-05-10 Thread david 
Sorry to bother the list ... but I received this message below in 
response to my 3:20 PM reply to a list email about the Anchor Offset 
topic. I sent my reply ONLY to the list, so apparently someone's address 
(@midphase.com) on the list isn't supposed to be on the list, which 
doesn't seem to be something I can do anything about ... I guess if you 
contact supp...@midphase.com with their ticket number below, they can 
tell you who it might be.

Again, sorry for the interruption, you may now return to your regularly 
scheduled interruption.

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Subject: Re: [#24488699] [css-d] Anchor offset ?
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 21:08:03 -0500
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Re: [css-d] Anchor offset ?

2010-05-10 Thread david 
genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ed Seedhouse  wrote:
>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM,   wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Ed Seedhouse  wrote:
 On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM,   wrote:
> Yes, Frames without frames is exactly what I want.
 The "standard" way to achieve this is with some kind of server-side
 processing, such as ASP, PHP, "server side includes" or several other
 methods.
>>> I think maybe you missed something, I am not wanting to use frames
>>> just make the pages behave in a manner similar to frames.
>> And that's what we normally use server side processing for, as I said.
>>
>>> The pages I currently working on will not be on a public server but
>>> the design concept will be used later on a public server.
>> Well it's perfectly easy to install Apache with PHP included on a
>> Windows machine, and of course if you are using Linix you either
>> already have it installed or can do so in just a few minutes.
>>
>>> When the time is right I will find a web sever source where PHP is 
>>> available.
>> Just install it on your own local machine.  I think everyone who is
>> developing with html/css should have their own local web server
>> installed.  Any machine less than five years old can handle this
>> easily.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Seedhouse
>>
> 
> Like I said, "You missed something." How does server side scripting
> have anything to do with my original question? If you are going to
> join the conversation maybe you should go back and read my OP and the
> replies.
> 
> Which is anchors in HTML and, position: fixed; in CSS. The behavior I
> was hoping to get in Firefox does happen in IE with just HTML and CSS
> no PHP or JavaScript and no ugly work arounds with HTML and CSS.

Then, most likely, IE is doing it wrong, and the others are doing it 
right. ;-)

(Note: I Am Not A W3C Standards Whiz)

> And for the record, I have been running Apache on Linux on my local
> network for around seven years when I switched from MS to Linux.

Good for you! :-)

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[css-d] [Fwd: [#24489217] Re: Anchor offset ?]

2010-05-10 Thread david 
Just got another one ... who on the list is @midphase.com?

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Subject: [#24489217] Re: [css-d] Anchor offset ?
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 04:22:12 -0500
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Ticket subject: Re: [css-d] Anchor offset ?
Ticket number: 24489217
Ticket link: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/ticket.php?ticket=24489217
Ticket body: genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ed Seedhouse  wrote:
>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM,   wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Ed Seedhouse  wrote:
 On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM,   wrote:
> Yes, Frames without frames is exactly what I want.
 The "standard" way to achieve this is with some kind of server-side
 processing, such as ASP, PHP, "server side includes" or several other
 methods.
>>> I think maybe you missed something, I am not wanting to use frames
>>> just make the pages behave in a manner similar to frames.
>> And that's what we normally use server side processing for, as I said.
>>
>>> The pages I currently working on will not be on a public server but
>>> the design concept will be used later on a public server.
>> Well it's perfectly easy to install Apache with PHP included on a
>> Windows machine, and of course if you are using Linix you either
>> already have it installed or can do so in just a few minutes.
>>
>>> When the time is right I will find a web sever source where PHP is 
>>> available.
>> Just install it on your own local machine.  I think everyone who is
>> developing with html/css should have their own local web server
>> installed.  Any machine less than five years old can handle this
>> easily.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Seedhouse
>>
> 
> Like I said, "You missed something." How does server side scripting
> have anything to do with my original question? If you are going to
> join the conversation maybe you should go back and read my OP and the
> replies.
> 
> Which is anchors in HTML and, position: fixed; in CSS. The behavior I
> was hoping to get in Firefox does happen in IE with just HTML and CSS
> no PHP or JavaScript and no ugly work arounds with HTML and CSS.

Then, most likely, IE is doing it wrong, and the others are doing it
right. ;-)

(Note: I Am Not A W3C Standards Whiz)

> And for the record, I have been running Apache on Linux on my local
> network for around seven years when I switched from MS to Linux.

Good for you! :-)

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Re: [css-d] Anchor offset ?

2010-05-10 Thread Tim Climis 
On Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:31:46 pm genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Thierry Koblentz  wrote:
> >> >> I believe what the OP is after is to achieve the same behavior as if
> >> 
> >> the
> >> 
> >> >> banner/header was a top frame.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Thierry
> >> > 
> >> > Whoops. Then perhaps these will give him some ideas to play with...
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Yes, Frames without frames is exactly what I want. Hopefully the URLs
> >> you gave as well as the ones on those pages will provide the answer. I
> >> have a basic understanding of how to do it. Maybe I will discover
> >> something new or discover an error in my code. I have a lot of reading
> >> to do. Thanks.
> > 
> > These URLs won't help you.
> > To find a solution, you need first to understand the problem.
> > A browser scrolls a document until the named anchor reaches the top of
> > the "window/frame" it is in.
> > So as long as your header is part of that document, named anchors will
> > move behind it. Padding, margin, top, whatever you want to use will not
> > change that behavior. Unless of course you are ok to increase the gap
> > between the sections.
> > Because in this case, you could use *top padding* on the paragraphs. That
> > way the anchor position does *not* changed, but the position of the text
> > will. And that can "clear" the header.
> > But do you want a gap between those sections?
> 

Hmm.  I'm a little surprised that no one's mentioned the easy fix here...  
It'll need some clean up with the margins, but should create the desired 
effect.

Also, there may be a better way to do this: I just banged it out on Saturday 
morning in the 15 minutes before I had to go out.

#body {
  position: fixed;
  top: 72px;
  bottom: 0;
  left: 138px;
  overflow: auto;
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
}

Works exactly as desired, in Chrome on Linux.  Don't have the time to check 
FF, but probably works there too.

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Re: [css-d] Anchor offset ?

2010-05-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz 
> > >> >> I believe what the OP is after is to achieve the same behavior
> as if
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >> >> banner/header was a top frame.
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >> Thierry
> > >> >
> > >> > Whoops. Then perhaps these will give him some ideas to play
> with...
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >>
> > >> Yes, Frames without frames is exactly what I want. Hopefully the
> URLs
> > >> you gave as well as the ones on those pages will provide the
> answer. I
> > >> have a basic understanding of how to do it. Maybe I will discover
> > >> something new or discover an error in my code. I have a lot of
> reading
> > >> to do. Thanks.
> > >
> > > These URLs won't help you.
> > > To find a solution, you need first to understand the problem.
> > > A browser scrolls a document until the named anchor reaches the top
> of
> > > the "window/frame" it is in.
> > > So as long as your header is part of that document, named anchors
> will
> > > move behind it. Padding, margin, top, whatever you want to use will
> not
> > > change that behavior. Unless of course you are ok to increase the
> gap
> > > between the sections.
> > > Because in this case, you could use *top padding* on the
> paragraphs. That
> > > way the anchor position does *not* changed, but the position of the
> text
> > > will. And that can "clear" the header.
> > > But do you want a gap between those sections?
> >
> 
> Hmm.  I'm a little surprised that no one's mentioned the easy fix
> here...
> It'll need some clean up with the margins, but should create the
> desired
> effect.
> 
> Also, there may be a better way to do this: I just banged it out on
> Saturday
> morning in the 15 minutes before I had to go out.
> 
> #body {
>   position: fixed;
>   top: 72px;
>   bottom: 0;
>   left: 138px;
>   overflow: auto;
>   margin: 0;
>   padding: 0;
> }

Duh! And that should work nicely in good browsers.
What about adding html {overflow-y:hidden} to avoid a double vertical
scrollbar?

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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: [Fwd: Re: [#24488699] Anchor offset ?]

2010-05-10 Thread Eric A. Meyer 
At 11:06 PM -1000 5/9/10, david wrote:

>Sorry to bother the list ... but I received this message below in
>response to my 3:20 PM reply to a list email about the Anchor Offset
>topic. I sent my reply ONLY to the list, so apparently someone's address
>(@midphase.com) on the list isn't supposed to be on the list, which
>doesn't seem to be something I can do anything about ...

I'm looking into this (in part by responding to your message) and 
think I know what's going on here, but can't yet be totally sure. 
It's complicated by the fact that no 'midphase' or 'mpcustomer' 
addresses are currently subscribed.
As a general note, when things like this happen, please contact 
the list administrators at css-d-ow...@lists.css-discuss.org (as 
listed in the headers of every message; look for 'List-Help') instead 
of mailing the whole list.  Thanks!

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[css-d] Pseudo Element after:not to include images?

2010-05-10 Thread Susan Grossman 
I can't seem to figure out how to leave out any images in a pseudo element
selector for off-site links.  The following blocks the domains fine and
attaches to all other outside links (except IE), but sometimes images are
linked and need to be excluded.

a:not([href^=".com"]):not([href^=".com"]):after { content:"\279F"; }

Have tried things like:

a:after img { content:none !important; }

..  obviously wrong syntax.  Any suggestions?


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[css-d] Help with center container

2010-05-10 Thread Ken Davies 
Hello I am trying again to rebuild my website, older and it seems only a 
little wiser. In essence  three columns/boxes where center div expands 
and moves images.
http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/horse_and%20equine_jewelry_for_equestrians.htm
 Page is valid css and validates html 4.01 strict. I want to rebuid site 
by using css to replace "gallery container" as needed. Trying also to
put div on right which I will use for "clearances or such". Ultimately 
will use the "more info" link in gallery container as a paypal  type link.
Main problem -Cross browser div with images buries under left nav menu 
and right div. I have tried and retried for many hours various position, 
float margins etc. Also the popup should be over top of the right "column"
Page shows what I want in Firefox (with the exception of the 
gallerycontainer getting lost under the menu, almost in IE6. In Opera 9 
complete gallery div is active. Google Chrome it is close.
I realize many people on this list are really up to date but my customer 
base is often remote and slower to update computers  etc so IE6 is still 
important to me. Also I  like some dark backgounds suggested in the 
past( black) but personnaly prefer the readability of the light background.
Thanks for taking a look
Ken
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Re: [css-d] Anchor offset ?

2010-05-10 Thread genericmaillists 
>> >> >> I believe what the OP is after is to achieve the same behavior as if
>> >>
>> >> Yes, Frames without frames is exactly what I want. Hopefully the URLs

> Hmm.  I'm a little surprised that no one's mentioned the easy fix here...
> It'll need some clean up with the margins, but should create the desired
> effect.
>
> Also, there may be a better way to do this: I just banged it out on Saturday
> morning in the 15 minutes before I had to go out.
>
> #body {
>  position: fixed;
>  top: 72px;
>  bottom: 0;
>  left: 138px;
>  overflow: auto;
>  margin: 0;
>  padding: 0;
> }
>
> Works exactly as desired, in Chrome on Linux.  Don't have the time to check
> FF, but probably works there too.

This is exactly what I was wanting to do.

Thanks!

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Re: [css-d] Help with center container

2010-05-10 Thread genericmaillists 
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Ken Davies  wrote:
> Hello I am trying again to rebuild my website, older and it seems only a
> little wiser. In essence  three columns/boxes where center div expands
> and moves images.
> http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/horse_and%20equine_jewelry_for_equestrians.htm
>  Page is valid css and validates html 4.01 strict. I want to rebuid site
> by using css to replace "gallery container" as needed. Trying also to
> put div on right which I will use for "clearances or such". Ultimately
> will use the "more info" link in gallery container as a paypal  type link.
> Main problem -Cross browser div with images buries under left nav menu
> and right div. I have tried and retried for many hours various position,
> float margins etc. Also the popup should be over top of the right "column"
> Page shows what I want in Firefox (with the exception of the
> gallerycontainer getting lost under the menu, almost in IE6. In Opera 9
> complete gallery div is active. Google Chrome it is close.
> I realize many people on this list are really up to date but my customer
> base is often remote and slower to update computers  etc so IE6 is still
> important to me. Also I  like some dark backgounds suggested in the
> past( black) but personnaly prefer the readability of the light background.
> Thanks for taking a look
> Ken
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Maybe the replies to my post will help you. My post has the subject
"Anchor offset ?" I don't know if you have been following the list or
just joined to ask your question. My post is recent, last few days. I
think you can get to the archives from one of those URLs above in the
list's auto signature. Sorry I have been on the list very long so I
don't have a direct URL to the archives.

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Re: [css-d] Help with center container

2010-05-10 Thread David Laakso 
Ken Davies wrote:
> Hello I am trying again to rebuild my website, older and it seems only a 
> little wiser. In essence  three columns/boxes where center div expands 
> and moves images.
> http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/horse_and%20equine_jewelry_for_equestrians.htm
>   



The center column expansion is problematic and for the time being, at 
least, it may be beneficial to hold an overall fixed width. This is at 
980px and quick checked only: IE 6/7/8, Chrome, Safari, SeaMonkey, and 
Firefox. Note revison of both css and the markup.

markup

css


I hope it will help get you started toward what you want..

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Re: [css-d] Pseudo Element after:not to include images?

2010-05-10 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh 

On May 11, 2010, at 3:08 AM, Susan Grossman wrote:

> I can't seem to figure out how to leave out any images in a pseudo element
> selector for off-site links.  The following blocks the domains fine and
> attaches to all other outside links (except IE), but sometimes images are
> linked and need to be excluded.
> 
> a:not([href^=".com"]):not([href^=".com"]):after { content:"\279F"; }

If I understand correctly, you want those 'external' links to display a 
right-pointing arrow next to the linked text, but those external links that 
contain an image should not have that arrow. Correct ?
(as always, linking to a minimal test case makes things much easier to 
understand…).

> Have tried things like:
> 
> a:after img { content:none !important; }
> 
>..  obviously wrong syntax.  Any suggestions?
Obviously, that won't work, given the syntax above. The generated content  is 
applied to the link, not the image, child of that link.
And also note the last paragraph under CSS 2.1:12.1 regarding replace elements
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#before-after-content

What you'll need to do is append a class to those links that contain an image, 
then write you selector thusly:
a:not([href^=".com"]):not([href^=".com"]):not([class="image-in-link"]):after
 { content:"\279F"; }



CSS has no provisions, to date, to do reverse lookup, of the type 
a:contains(img) or the like. There have been various proposals to the css-wg 
but none worked out so far

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Re: [css-d] Pseudo Element after:not to include images?

2010-05-10 Thread Susan Grossman 
> > I can't seem to figure out how to leave out any images in a pseudo
> element
> > selector for off-site links.  The following blocks the domains fine and
> > attaches to all other outside links (except IE), but sometimes images are
> > linked and need to be excluded.
> >
> > a:not([href^=".com"]):not([href^=".com"]):after {
> content:"\279F"; }
>



On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

>
> If I understand correctly, you want those 'external' links to display a
> right-pointing arrow next to the linked text, but those external links that
> contain an image should not have that arrow. Correct ?
> (as always, linking to a minimal test case makes things much easier to
> understand…).
>
> > Have tried things like:
> >
> > a:after img { content:none !important; }
> >
> >..  obviously wrong syntax.  Any suggestions?
> Obviously, that won't work, given the syntax above. The generated content
>  is applied to the link, not the image, child of that link.
> And also note the last paragraph under CSS 2.1:12.1 regarding replace
> elements
> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#before-after-content
>
> What you'll need to do is append a class to those links that contain an
> image, then write you selector thusly:
> a:not([href^=".com"]):not([href^=".com"]):not([class="image-in-link"]):after
> { content:"\279F"; }
>
> 
>
> CSS has no provisions, to date, to do reverse lookup, of the type
> a:contains(img) or the like. There have been various proposals to the css-wg
> but none worked out so far
>
>


Thank you - I knew I had it crooked, though I was hoping to apply without
back adding a class (existing content).

Really appreciate this, it works correctly.

Susan
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Re: [css-d] Help with center container

2010-05-10 Thread David Laakso 
Ken Davies wrote:
> David Laakso wrote:
>> Ken Davies wrote:
>>   
>>> Hello I am trying again to rebuild my website, older and it seems only a 
>>> little wiser. In essence  three columns/boxes where center div expands 
>>> and moves images.
>>> http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/horse_and%20equine_jewelry_for_equestrians.htm
>>>   
>>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> The center column expansion is problematic and for the time being, at 
>> least, it may be beneficial to hold an overall fixed width. This is at 
>> 980px and quick checked only: IE 6/7/8, Chrome, Safari, SeaMonkey, and 
>> Firefox. Note revison of both css and the markup.
>>
>> markup
>> 
>> css
>> 
>>
>> I hope it will help get you started toward what you want..
>>
>> Best,
>> ~d
>>
>>   
> Thanks Dave, it helped  a colored header is better, as did a link I 
> got off an earlier reply
> Margins aren't perfect yet but page moves the way I want with an 
> expanding center div. Firefox and Chrome look decent so far. Now I 
> have lost the images in container div on IE6. Opera still has a 
> completely active container div with mouseover.. Got any ideas on those?
> Ken



What say we just send this to the list and ask their opinion?  Other 
people on the list may wish to contribute their thoughts. I just try to 
cope with really simple stuff.  Questions of more profound  and complex 
matter may be best dealt with by others better qualified than me ...

Best,
~d



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Re: [css-d] [Fwd: [#24489217] Re: Anchor offset ?]

2010-05-10 Thread david 
Sorry, just trying to see if I can get another response from 
supp...@mpcustomer.com to forward to Eric ... :-(

david wrote:
> Just got another one ... who on the list is @midphase.com?
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [#24489217] Re: [css-d] Anchor offset ?
> Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 04:22:12 -0500
> From: css-d 
> Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com
> To: david 
> 
> Hello,
> 
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> Ticket body: genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ed Seedhouse  wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM,   wrote:
 On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Ed Seedhouse  wrote:
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM,   wrote:
>> Yes, Frames without frames is exactly what I want.
> The "standard" way to achieve this is with some kind of server-side
> processing, such as ASP, PHP, "server side includes" or several other
> methods.
 I think maybe you missed something, I am not wanting to use frames
 just make the pages behave in a manner similar to frames.
>>> And that's what we normally use server side processing for, as I said.
>>>
 The pages I currently working on will not be on a public server but
 the design concept will be used later on a public server.
>>> Well it's perfectly easy to install Apache with PHP included on a
>>> Windows machine, and of course if you are using Linix you either
>>> already have it installed or can do so in just a few minutes.
>>>
 When the time is right I will find a web sever source where PHP is 
 available.
>>> Just install it on your own local machine.  I think everyone who is
>>> developing with html/css should have their own local web server
>>> installed.  Any machine less than five years old can handle this
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed Seedhouse
>>>
>> Like I said, "You missed something." How does server side scripting
>> have anything to do with my original question? If you are going to
>> join the conversation maybe you should go back and read my OP and the
>> replies.
>>
>> Which is anchors in HTML and, position: fixed; in CSS. The behavior I
>> was hoping to get in Firefox does happen in IE with just HTML and CSS
>> no PHP or JavaScript and no ugly work arounds with HTML and CSS.
> 
> Then, most likely, IE is doing it wrong, and the others are doing it
> right. ;-)
> 
> (Note: I Am Not A W3C Standards Whiz)
> 
>> And for the record, I have been running Apache on Linux on my local
>> network for around seven years when I switched from MS to Linux.
> 
> Good for you! :-)
> 


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