Re: [CTRL] Free Speech Is Whatever the Government Allows
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/26/99 1:43:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the FDA has relied on the commercial speech doctrine for its underlying authority, and proceeded in its rulemaking to only approve claims for which there is "significant scientific agreement". What the fuck is wrong with that??? Please Joshua@ you are not telling us that you believe in the FDA?!?!? The agency that is run by ex-corporate shills? Please tell us it ain't so. As to what the fuck is wrong with that I say that my two questions posed above are all the answer that some would need. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Virtual country 'nuked' on Net
-Caveat Lector- Virtual country 'nuked' on Net http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_263000/263169.stm Connect-Ireland's Website now carries only a simple condemnation By Internet Correspondent Chris Nuttall The Indonesian Government is being blamed for a highly-organised attack on computers in Ireland which brought down the East Timor virtual country domain. Connect-Ireland says it is lodging a formal protest with the Indonesian Embassy in London after it was forced to shut down its systems, disrupting its Internet service provision to 3,000 customers. The cracker attacks, perhaps the first of their kind orchestrated by a government, began last Tuesday and, after a week, the domain guardian and Internet Service Provider was still struggling to restore its services. "E-Nazis" create chaos Only its home page was accessible, containing a statement headlined: E-Nazis Creating Chaos on the Net. "The apparent aim of the attack was to disrupt the East Timorese Internet domain [.tp], established only twelve months ago by the East Timorese Project, " said the statement. Bishop Belo: Initiated virtual country The project was initiated by Connect-Ireland and the 1996 Nobel Prize winners Ramos Horta and Bishop Belo. The main site, www.freedom.tp returned a 404 Not Found error message on Tuesday. "The perpetrators of this attack have not yet been identified, but the Indonesian government is known to be extremely antagonistic towards this display of virtual sovereignty," said the statement. Robots mounted 18 attacks Connect-Ireland's project director, Martin Maguire, told BBC News Online that e-mail for customers was now being delivered and new passwords were being issued. BBC's Ireland correspondent, Leo Enright, reports from Dublin He said crackers had been testing the servers' defences for the past nine months before launching lightning simultaneous attacks from countries as far apart as Australia, Japan, Holland and the United States. "There were 18 simultaneous attacks on our server by robots trying to claw down our defences," said Martin. "This was a very high-level attack that had to be planned and co-ordinated." Once they had broken in, the crackers set up their own domain host, need.tp, with the possible aim of using it for propaganda on East Timor. A new style of war Connect-Ireland responded with its "nuclear option" of a complete shutdown. "We have re-invented ourselves in the space of a week, moving platforms, using other versions of software on new hardware," said Martin. He said other services in Japan and the United States had been hit by similar attacks but were not reporting them for fear of bad publicity. "This is the ostrich nature of the industry. But it's going to be the new style of war. You can see these tactics becoming part of official government policy and a potential weapon." "And it can take place against real countries. Probably no government has contingency plans for this, no government has mandatory reporting of such incidents and there is no plan for managing the problem." There was no-one available for comment at the Indonesian Embassy in London on Tuesday. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Teacher fired over I.D card
-Caveat Lector- Via: angelref: TUESDAY JANUARY 26 1999 WND Exclusive Teacher dismissed over ID cards Religious controversy stirred in West Virginia By David M. Bresnahan 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The battle over bar-coded ID cards in a small public high school in Elkins, West Virginia, could be an omen for public schools across the country. A veteran teacher whose religious convictions have been ridiculed by school board members and ignored by the administration, found himself without a job yesterday. Phillip Hudok was asked to clean out his desk and turn in his keys. He is now on unpaid suspension waiting for a hearing to determine if he will continue his 22-year career as a physics and chemistry teacher at Elkins High School. What happened to Hudok may soon happen to other fundamentalist Christian teachers around the nation. The Randolph County Board of Education claims to be on the cutting edge of federal recommendations that are soon expected to become requirements. In an effort to prevent student violence against other students, Elkins High School instituted a new rule for added security. Students and faculty are now required to wear a photo ID with a bar code. It must be visible at all times, as recommended by the federal government. Hudok resisted for religious reasons. A small group of students also refused. Hudok was granted permission to create his own ID card, but he refused to police students for ID cards as they entered his classroom. ID cards are nothing new. High schools across the nation have used them for many years. The change that disturbed Hudok was the requirement that cards be visible and display a numbered bar code. Numerous heated school board meetings were held. Parents and students rallied to Hudok's side in the little community of 15,000. Hudok quoted a variety of Bible scriptures to support his belief that it is contrary to his religion for him to wear the numbered ID. Article 3, section 15 of the West Virginia Constitution states: "... nor shall any man be enforced, restrained, molested or burdened, in his body or goods, or otherwise suffer, on account of his religious belief ..." but the Randolph County School District officials do not believe it applies. His pastor, Butch Paugh, hosts a nightly short-wave radio program. He invited Hudok to be a guest on his show. A WorldNetDaily article alerted other talk show hosts to the story, and Hudok quickly became sought after as a guest. Listeners from all over the country began calling the members of the school board and the administration to complain. They all quickly placed answering machines on their phones, and one even left a derogatory message threatening callers with the use of Satanic powers. "You have reached 666," said the message on board member Mark Rizzio's answering machine. "If you would like to leave a message we will get back to you as soon as possible. If that isn't quick enough we will use our satanic powers to get back to you even sooner." Rizzio later said the message was left as a joke by his wife. Board members, the superintendent, and the school's principal, have not returned messages left by WorldNetDaily. An agreement was reached by all parties to permit Hudok to wear an ID card with the bar code removed. The bar code is used by the school lunch system. Glen Karlen, superintendent of schools, notified members of the press that the problem was resolved. Although Hudok agreed to wear the altered ID, he continued to refuse to require the students in his classroom to wear their ID cards. The issue quickly heated up again. "They're dismissing me because I failed to enforce the ID card policy in my classroom. They call that insubordination and willful neglect of duty," said Hudok. Hudok, who has not had much legal assistance, filed a grievance because he was being forced to violate his religious convictions. He was surprised to be dismissed while the grievance process was still underway. He said he was asked to enforce the ID card policy in his classroom until the grievance could be heard. He refused. "I can't do that. How can I possibly ask someone to do something that I can't do myself? They've already given me permission to cut off the bar code, which I did. But they're saying that I have to enforce the students to wear their cards which have bar codes," explained Hudok. When he asked for an explanation for the dismissal, Hudok says he was told that talking to the press did him in. "The school board's attorney said that because of my being on talk shows and getting a lot of publicity that the appearance was that I was trying to be hateful to the school system," explained Hudok. He said his objective is to do what is right. He is prepared to abandon his career and seek a new line of work rather than compromise his beliefs. Hudok may be contacted by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] David M. Bresnahan, a contributing editor for WorldNetDaily.com, is the author of "Cover Up: The Art and
[CTRL] Fungus Eyed As Drug Crop Killer
-Caveat Lector- Fungus Eyed As Drug Crop Killer By George Gedda WASHINGTON (AP) -- Government researchers are testing a fungus they believe will kill narcotics plants without harming other crops or animal life, a potential breakthrough aimed at cutting foreign production of illegal drugs headed for the United States. Congress has approved $23 million for further research into what are known as "mycoherbicides," soil-borne fungi capable of eradicating plants that provide the raw material for cocaine, heroin and marijuana. The Clinton administration is far from unanimous about the innovation. Skeptics say more testing must be done to prove the effectiveness and safety of the technology and winning the support of governments of drug- producing South American countries -- Colombia, Peru and Bolivia -- won't be easy. None has been briefed extensively, and none has taken a public position. The administration will get to sound out Colombian President Andres Pastrana next week when he comes on a state visit to Washington. The three South American countries are the only ones anywhere that produce the base plant for cocaine. The legislation was guided through Congress by Sen. Mike DeWine, R- Ohio, and Rep. Bill McCollum, R-Fla. In addition to mycoherbicide research, the legislation provides for promotion of alternative crops to narcotics plants for South American farmers. "These micro-organisms have the potential to cripple drug crops before they are even harvested," DeWine said. McCollum said the new crop eradication technology is much safer than traditional strategies. "All of the indications are that this has the potential for making a big difference in the drug war," he said. "This could be the silver bullet." House Foreign Relations Committee chairman Benjamin Gilman, R-N.Y., said the technology is "extremely effective, not costly, doesn't affect the environment and is a good way of eradicating coca." The United States has spent billions of dollars over the years with little success in trying the slay the drug dragon. The "just say no" campaign of the 1980s has been followed up by a government-sponsored media ad blitz warning people of the dangers of drugs. Chemical sprays and interdiction efforts have been used to cut supply. Still, an estimated 6.7 million addicts live in the country, and experts estimate that 13 million Americans have used drugs in the last month. U.S. officials believe South American countries can be persuaded to go along with the program only if farmers have plausible alternatives to narcotics plants. As one promising alternative, officials are touting chocolate, derived from cacao trees, because it is a suitable alternative for South American small farmers and the global market in the coming years is expected to be tight. Experiments by Agriculture Department scientists focus on isolating the mycoherbicides that narcotics plants produce naturally. If, for example, a coca plant is doused with the fungi, it wilts, and decades must pass before the area is again suitable for growing coca. In addition, beans, corn or other crops grown nearby are unaffected. Environmental Protection Agency scientists believe no harm would come to humans or animals as well. The same technologies can be applied to eradicate plants used for marijuana and heroin. Advocates and skeptics agree that the program will go nowhere without the support of the drug-producing countries. Unless the political groundwork is properly laid, farmers' unions or environmental groups in the coca-growing countries could come out in opposition, nullifying the possibility of cooperation, officials say. They also are bracing themselves for allegations that Washington is planning biological warfare against these countries. The costs of drug addiction are obvious: 14,218 drug-related deaths in 1995, and the price to society each year is $67 billion, according to the Office of National Drug Control Policy. President Clinton has set a goal of a 50 percent decrease in drug addiction in 10 years, but advocates of the new crop eradication technologies believe that goal is too modest. AP-NY-10-22-98 1436EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
Re: [CTRL] Fungus Eyed As Drug Crop Killer
-Caveat Lector- On 26 Jan 99, at 22:06, AP wrote: Environmental Protection Agency scientists believe no harm would come to humans or animals as well. That makes me feel soo much better while they spray us with these fungi as a test. I guess this has nothing to do with the mold-induce sinus infections being reported lately. Steve Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's Midi http://www.anomalous-images.com/sash-mysterious_times.mid Anomalous Images Bulletin Board http://www.anomalous-images.com/wwwboard.html Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton's fascistic agenda
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~gjackson/USReport.html Enjoy Teo1000 US Report Telling it like it is The New Australian Clinton's Fascist vision for America By James Henry No. 104, 25- 31 January 1999 The state of American education being what it is, the vast majority of people are totally incapable of recognising a fascist economic program, even when it is used to slap them in the face. This is because they have not been taught that fascism means state direction of the economy, cradle to grave 'social security', complete control of education, government intervention in every nook and cranny of the economy and the belief that the individual belongs to the state. This was Clinton's State of the Union vision, which is why those chowder-heads that call themselves journalists loved it. People cannot grasp that fascism is socialism because they have not been taught to distinguish between form and substance. They do not realise that once the state controls everyone's property that property now belongs to the state because control is ownership, no matter who possesses the deeds. In this situation, might is right. Clinton's audacious plan to confiscate the earning of Americans so that politicians like himself and Hillary (the couple that helped empty the Madison Guaranty in Arkansas) can use them to gradually socialise the economy is a typical statist tactic and one to be expected from the Clintons. This is no exaggeration. Just reflect for a moment on his proposal to save social security by investing taxpayers' money in the stock market. By controlling a company's shares the state would come to own the company. It would not even have to control a majority of the shares. It would then dictate where the company would invest, in what it would invest and where it would invest. This is precisely how Mussolini and Hitler ran their economies. The term for this is central planning. But America is different, or so the likes of Dan Rather and Gerald Rivero would claim. But does anyone imagine for a moment that the likes of Bill and Hillary would hesitate to use that power? Does anyone think that the huge bureaucratic machinery it would give birth to would not us the power? Also business funding for free-market publications, organisations, foundations and think tanks would quickly dry up. Under his scheme investment would become a function of the state, just as it was in the late Soviet Union. Politicians and bureaucrats playing at being entrepreneurs with trillions of dollars. That such policies have always resulted in the destruction of liberty, economic collapses and mass poverty would not faze the Friends of Bill Club, particularly if they figured they would get slice of the action. One only has to think of what the Clintons did to Arkansas. No wonder Greenspan is still in a state of shock. That Clinton has only contempt for the mass of Americans was made clear by his arrogant statement that "We [I love the Royal We] could give [the surpluses] all back to you and hope you spend it right . . . But if you don't spend it right" Social Security are shortfalls are "just 14 years away." Let us dissect this statement. Clinton is literally telling Americans they are too dumb to know how to spend their own money. (I guess his poll results gave him that idea). Americans are losing nearly 50 per cent of their incomes to all levels of government, with Washington grabbing 21 per cent, the highest in the nation's history. And it's going to get worse. And what are the Clinton Democrats' solutions? Massive government intervention combined with massive increases in government spending. No wonder personal savings have collapsed. How dare this lying hypocrite tell the American people they are too dumb to save when his own profligate proposals would see trillions wasted on huge government programs designed to buy a Senate acquittal and shore up the support of the faithful. He claims Americans are irresponsible, yet his programs would consume not only every penny of the surplus but would increase federal spending by at least 20 percent, lead to another era of budget deficits, large-scale government borrowings and massive tax increases. Now politicians have a choice with surpluses: they can either spend them, which then results in more deficits unless spending is cut, or they can return the money to its rightful owners. Democrats have once again shown which kind they are. This is what Adam Smith had to say about Clinton's arrogant proposals: "It is the highest impertinence and presumption . . . in Kings and ministers to pretend to watch over the economy of private people . . . Let them look well after their own expense, and they may safely trust private people with theirs. If their own extravagance does not ruin the state, that of their subjects never will." "The statesman, who should attempt to direct private people in what manner they ought to employ their capitals, would not only load
[CTRL] Scientist Says Drug Killer Fungus May Affect Other Plants
-Caveat Lector- http://www.outreach.umich.edu/audio/GLRC/Public/html/archivera/1998/november98ra/nov9/nelson2.ram Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's Midi http://www.anomalous-images.com/sash-mysterious_times.mid Anomalous Images Bulletin Board http://www.anomalous-images.com/wwwboard.html Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Copyright Fair use provisions
-Caveat Lector- Kris, I just read your post on this subject, and I say, Hear Hear! Robin Peters DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] No Postings
-Caveat Lector- My e-mail this morning had no input from CTRL at all. Can you tell me what the problem is? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fungus Eyed As Drug Crop Killer
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Steve Wingate wrote: Environmental Protection Agency scientists believe no harm would come to humans or animals as well. That makes me feel soo much better while they spray us with these fungi as a test. The same thought crossed my mind as well... I guess this has nothing to do with the mold-induce sinus infections being reported lately. Or those mysterious contrails? And I notice they don't address the issue of what happenes when one breathes in fungii/molds, and they become lodged in the lungs...leads to a type of pneumonia... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] This is the dawning of the New Age New world Order I
-Caveat Lector- From This is the dawning of the New age New world Order DL Cuddy Phd Chapter Six Education, Literary Symbolism,and One-World Socialism Because of their desire for harmony, Masons do not say sectarian prayers to Jesus for example, because that would be "divisive." Perhaps this would explain why Horace Mann, a Mason who became known as "the father of American public education,"felt that our public schools should be free from "sectarian religious' influences."Mann became secretary to the Massachusetts State Board of Education in 1837 and established the first "normal" (public) school. His concept of "universal education" followed the European "Pestalozzi" schools, whose founder Johann Heinrich Pestalozzi (1746-1827) was a strong believer in Rousseau's permissive educational beliefs (as in the latter's book, Emile). Rousseau was influenced by Johann Friedrich Herbart (1776-1841), who was influenced by the Free-mason Fichte (promoted by the Illuminati). Preceding Mann was Fanny Wright (Madame Francoise d'Arus-mont), who came to the U.S. in 1824 with the Marquis de Lafayette and then joined Robert Dale Owen in 1828 in an experiment in communism in New Harmony, Indiana. Wright was the favorite pupil of Jeremy Bentham (founder of Utopian welfare state utilitarianism) and developed a system she called,"National, Rational, Republican Educatton, Free for All at the Expense of All, Conducted under the Guardianship of the State" to be "apart from the contaminating influence of parents." She, Owen, and Orestes Brownson formed the Workingmen's Party in New York with the purpose of controlling political power in the state, so that they could establish a system of schools to destroy Christianity. (Karl Marx's first international was called the Workingmen's International Association.) Brownson later converted to Christianity, and in The Works of Orestes Brownson, vol. 19, one reads: "The great object was to get rid of Christianity, and to convert our churches into halls of science. The plan was not to make open attacks upon religion, although we might belabor the clergy and bring them into contempt where we could; but to establish a system of state - we said national - schools, from which all religion was to be excluded, in which nothing was to be taught but such knowledge as is vertfiable by the senses, and to which all parents were to be compelled by law to send their children. Our completeplan was to take the children from their parents at the age of twelve or eighteen months, and to have them nursed, fed, clothed, and trained in these schools at thepublic expense; but at any rate, we were to have godless schools for all the children of the country. . . . The plan has been successfully pursued . . . and the whole action of the country on the subject has taken the direction we sought to give it. . . . One of the principal movers of the scheme had no mean share in organizing the Smithsonian Institute. " This sounds somewhat like the 1930s congressionaltestimony by Kenneth Goff, who said that he had been trained by the communists in "psychopolitics," which would link religion with mental illness in order to discredit religious beliefs. It was Robert Dale Owen himself who, as a member of the U.S. Congress (1843-1847), introduced a bill establishing the Smithsonian Institute. After editing the New Harmony Gazette (name changed in 1829 to Free Enquirer, similar to the name of a twentieth century American Humanist Association periodical), Owen went to New York and founded the Association for Protection of Industry and for Promotion of National Education. After he left Congress, he wrote Hints onPublic Architecture (1849), and from 1853 to 1858 he was charge d'affaires in Italy (where the Masonic leader Mazzini initiated Madame Blavatsky into the Carbonari in 1856). Beginning in 1837 in the U.S., Freemason Horace Mann was pushing non-sectarian education forward. In Paul Fisher's Behind the Lodge Door: Church, State, and Freemasonry in America, one reads that Mann was an en-thusiastic advocate of a philosophy which was "scientific, humanitarian, ethical, and naturalistic, "and he believed in "character education without 'creeds, 'and in phrenology as a basis for 'scientific education. "'He held that "natural religions tands . . . preeminent over revealed religion. . . . " Mann believed in "humanizing" schools, as did the German philosopher Ludwig Andreas Feuerbach (1804-1872), who had studied under Hegel in Berlin for two years in the 1820s. According to Ted Byfield in "Again the Educators Have Used Our Children as Guinea Pigs," (Western Report, May 13, 1991), Feuerbach "about one hundred ftfty years ago . . . propounded the theory that since the highest known entity is the human self then self-actualization'should be the ultimate goal of educa- tion" (forerunner of the humanistic "self-actualization" theory of Abraham Maslow
[CTRL] Policing the State
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : North America $10 billion for "anti-terrorism" plan Clinton proposes huge police buildup By Martin McLaughlin 26 January 1999 In a speech January 22 to the National Academy of Sciences, President Clinton announced a $10 billion plan to strengthen the repressive powers of the federal government, in the name of waging war against "terrorism." Combined with $6.6 billion in new spending on anti-missile systems and a $110 billion increase in the Pentagon budget over the next six years, the Clinton administration will launch the biggest military-police buildup since the heyday of Ronald Reagan. In both the speech, and an interview given the previous day to the New York Times, Clinton gave a picture of America in the twenty-first century beleaguered by terrorists threatening to kill millions with biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, or to disrupt the US economy through attacks on its computer-based infrastructure. "We must be ready," Clinton declared, "ready if our adversaries try to use computers to disable power grids, banking, communications and transportation networks, police, fire and health services--or military assets ... "We have to be ready for adversaries to launch attacks that could paralyze utilities and services across entire regions. We must be ready if adversaries seek to attack with weapons of mass destruction, as well. Armed with these weapons, which can be compact and inexpensive, a small band of terrorists could inflict tremendous harm." Clinton boasted that he had tripled FBI anti-terrorist efforts since 1993, and that last year the administration obtained from Congress a 39 percent increase in spending for preparedness against chemical and biological weapons. The new budget will more than double this effort to nearly $1.4 billion, including $683 million to train and equip emergency personnel in major cities, $206 million to protect federal facilities and $381 million for dealing with "nuclear emergencies." Another $1.46 billion will be expended on measures to protect US computer systems from external or internal attack, including the formation of a "CyberCorps" of computer specialists working as an arm of the police and military. While Clinton cited the threat of hackers invading Pentagon and other critical computer systems, the creation of a specialized detachment of military and police officers with computer expertise raises an obvious threat to the present relatively unrestricted access to information on the Internet. The bulk of the anti-terrorism funds will be expended on a massive effort to fortify American embassies around the world, in the wake of last year's bombing of the Kenyan and Tanzanian embassies. The effect will be to transform these facilities from diplomatic missions into essentially military bunkers, outposts of the American military-intelligence complex in every country of the world. Clinton defended his decision to order missile strikes against the Sudan and Afghanistan in the wake of the African embassy bombings, although the Sudanese target was a pharmaceutical plant which produced the bulk of that country's medicine and no connection has been demonstrated between either target and the bombings. Future preemptive actions would be taken, he said: "We are doing everything we can, in ways I can and in ways that I cannot discuss We must be deliberate, and we must be aggressive." Clinton told the Times that he was considering a proposal from the Pentagon to restructure the military command through the appointment of a commander in chief for the defense of the continental United States--a measure never undertaken even in World War II or at any time during the Cold War. Such an action would be the precursor to ending 130-year-old policy, under the posse comitatus law, which bars the use of American military forces for internal police purposes. Just as significant as the measures themselves was the nearly hysterical language in which Clinton presented the danger of terrorism. He claimed that the threat of biological and chemical attack "keeps me awake at night and bothers me." He described the prospect of such attacks as the greatest threat to US national security in the twenty-first century, justifying a vast mobilization of federal resources. Introducing Clinton to his audience at the NAS, National Security Advisor Sandy Berger noted the unprecedented scale of the administration's proposed deployment against the supposed terrorist threat, including not only the Pentagon, Justice Department and CIA, but the Department of Energy, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Transportation (aviation security) and even the Department of Health and Human Services, which will oversee some of the preparations against biological warfare. Richard A. Clarke, recently appointed by Clinton to the new post of national coordinator of counterterrorism and computer security programs, warned of
[CTRL] Arabiana: 01-27
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Middle East What is happening in Yemen? Relations with Britain continue to worsen By Barbara Slaughter 27 January 1999 Relations between Britain and Yemen continue to deteriorate daily. On January 25, Yemen made an official request for the extradition of Muslim cleric, Abu Hamza al-Masri, amidst claims that Britain had a long record of harbouring terrorist groups intent on destabilising the Yemeni government. The official Yemeni news agency said a letter from President Saleh addressed to Tony Blair "expresses the discontent of the Yemeni Government with the terrorist activities led by the terrorist Abu Hamza al- Masri and other people from British territory." This follows a month-long dispute over who was to blame for the deaths of three British and one Australian tourist in Yemen during an abortive rescue attempt. An examination of the events of the past month reads like a Le Carré novel. It raises more questions than answers over what has led to the recent antagonisms. On December 23 seven men were arrested, including three Britons of Pakistani origin. The Yemeni government claimed they were carrying plans to blow up a church, a hotel and the British consulate. They also say weapons, bomb-making equipment and terrorist training videos were found. Those arrested included Hamza-al-Masri's stepson and an Algerian who is engaged to his sister. His 17-year-son is still on the run. The men and their relatives have denied all charges. Confessions by three of those arrested are said to have been extracted under torture and have been withdrawn. Five days after the arrests, members of the Islamic Army kidnapped 16 Western tourists in Yemen. Within 24 hours, 200 government troops mounted an attack on the kidnappers' hideout and three Britons and an Australian were killed. This was severely criticised by the British authorities. In response the Yemeni government stated that the Islamic Army was allied with al-Masri and that Britain had prior knowledge of its plans. Britain denied this and a team of four Scotland Yard detectives and ten FBI agents was sent to Yemen to investigate the kidnapping. Within 24 hours the FBI declared that Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile accused by the US of masterminding the twin bombing of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania last August, was responsible. The trial of the kidnappers opened on January 13. It is impossible at this point to verify the conflicting versions of events presented by Yemen and Britain. No hard evidence has been produced to indicate that the arrested men were engaged in terrorist activity, or to back up the accusation of British collusion. Nevertheless, the tensions underlying these charges have their foundation in the constant imperialist interventions in the region. In this, moreover, Saudi Arabia has played a key role. Yemen incorporates the former British protectorate of Aden relinquished in 1967. With a population of 18 million, it is one of the world's poorest countries. The present regime dates back to 1990, when the People's Democratic Republic of South Yemen and the Yemen Arab Republic in the North, unified into a single state--in an attempt to attract the inward investment necessary to develop the oilfields on the border between the two areas. The old ruling parties in each region maintained their own armed forces, security services and bureaucratic structures. In the 1993 elections the General People's Congress, the party of the more populous North, ousted the previously Moscow-dominated Yemeni Socialist Party. Ever since, the country has been wracked by economic crisis. It was made to pay a heavy price for its refusal to support the US in the gulf war. After the war, Saudi Arabia expelled 800,000 Yemeni guest workers, severely affecting the country's balance of payments, and the US slashed its aid by 85 percent. In 1994 the crisis sharpened, with a 12 percent decline in the currency in one week. Conflicts between the leaderships of North and South reached breaking point, leading to heavy fighting between rival army units in April that year. Vice-president Ali Salim al-Bid, the former leader in the South, announced the secession of a new Democratic Republic of Yemen (DRY), but his forces were defeated. He escaped to Saudi Arabia, which had supported him during the conflict. The economic crisis has worsened with the collapse of world prices for oil. The IMF, World Bank and European Union have approved loan and credit packages, but have insisted on a programme of restructuring. Subsidies on basic foodstuffs have been removed and prices of basic necessities like petrol, wheat, flour and cooking oil have risen by more than 50 percent since last June. This has provoked widespread opposition to the ruling regime. Last summer 250 people were killed in clashes between armed tribesmen and government forces. Much of this opposition has fallen under the leadership of rival fundamentalist
[CTRL] Skeptic News Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990126a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with : are editorial comments to provoke discussion. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 'CLOSER TO GOD'. MOUNT GRAHAM, Arizona (CNN) 10,000 feet above the Arizona desert, a windswept observatory aims its powerful telescope to the heavens - an appropriate direction, as this observatory is run by the Vatican. Science and passion - http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9901/26/pope.astronomers/index.html NASA FOOTAGE SHOWS ASTEROID IN MOTION. (CNN) Humanity will have to wait at least another year to see the first closeup views of an asteroid. But in the meantime, NASA has released some unprecedented footage of one of the myster- ious space rocks as it rotates slowly in the solitude of space. Craters and pits visible - http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9901/26/eros.movie/index.html : DO church telescopes resolve angels, demons, heavenly choirs, the pearly gates; or just more of the same old dust and debris, dark and glowing? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Arkansas might OK concealed guns in church. LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) Holy heat. There could be a gun under that choir robe or churchgoer's jacket. A proposed law would let people with concealed-gun permits bear their arms in church. Constituents want the privilege because sometimes they must go from work to weeknight church services and cannot get home to drop off their guns. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558207165-327 # Villagers Plan Sex Festival for Old Folks. HELSINKI, Finland (Reuters) - A Finnish village whose name means "Spawning Lake" plans to hold a love fest for senior citizens this summer to coincide with United Nations' Year for the Aged. http://nt.excite.com/news/r/990126/17/odd-sex : Will a geriatric sex fest work? Will guns in church be helpful? Which best exemplifies the Illuminatus conspiracy to dominate humanity? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Pope compares abortion to slavery. ST. LOUIS (AP) Pope John Paul II paid a visit to America's heartland, where he decried teen suicide and hopeless- ness and likened the legal battle over abortion and euthanasia to the clash over slavery on the eve of the Civil War. "There is something terribly wrong when so many people are overcome by hopelessness to the point of taking their own lives," the pope said at a youth rally at the Kiel Center. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558212953-0b2 # How Many Times Can You Commit Suicide? ZAGREB (Reuters) - A middle-aged Croatian man who stabbed himself with a butcher's knife, set his apartment on fire and then jumped out of a first-floor window, survived with minor injuries, Jutarnji List newspaper reported. Josip Tusek, 55, had complained he had difficulty breathing but doctors apparently refused to operate on him. He then said he would perform the operation himself, his neighbors said. He suffered only a cut to his stomach and a broken leg after his suicide bids Saturday. http://nt.excite.com/news/r/990126/10/odd-suicide : Should Tusek have talked to the pope about hopelessness? Several times? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Genetic engineering Takes Its Place At The Dinner Table. ANAHEIM, Calif. By look and taste, it's said to be indistinguishable from conventional crops. "Logistically, this creates a nightmare for ingredient suppliers." http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local20_19990126.html *** FDA to restrict animal antibiotics. WASHINGTON (AP) The US gov't plans to set limits on antibiotics for animals, to address concerns that on-the- farm medication creates drug-resistant germs that infect the meat people eat. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558209911-a6a : Would you eat anything that's more highly evolved than you are? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CONSCIOUSNESS EXPLAINED: A materialist examination of human consciousness. Many scientists have developed a polemic against the encroachments of the religious right on the scientific method and its premise, philosophical materialism. These controversies, not surprisingly, revolve largely around the most basic of questions: the relationship between matter and thought. Mind stuff - http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/jan1999/mind-j20.shtml : Is thought more or less 'real' than matter? Are they equal but different? Which came first, the concept or the quark? How could you tell? Do you care? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Greek Orthodox leader denies ouster, in severe feud within U.S. Greek Orthodoxy. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558211089-462 # Vatican issues new exorcism rules. (BBC) The Vatican has published updated rules on exorcism and for the first time it urges exorcists to take medical advice where needed. Perhaps psychiatrists should be consulted too - see http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/newsid_263000/263604.stm : Should religious dissidents be exorcised? Does your church have exorcism rituals? Does it need any? Do political organizations
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: (fwd) IP: [FTC] ...Conspiracy of Rhodes scholars?
left vs right is the profferred dichotomy, don't look up and down just side to side. Om K - SNETNEWS Mailing List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP: [FTC] ...Conspiracy of Rhodes scholars? From: "L.J.Alberts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:47:03 -0500 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Ever think maybe it's a left-wing conspiracy of Rhodes scholars? By Charley Reese Published in The Orlando Sentinel, Jan 26 1999 You remember, of course, Hillary Clinton going on national television and asserting that there was a right-wing conspiracy out to get her poor, innocent husband. Well, suppose there is a left-wing conspiracy of Rhodes scholars out to "get" Americans? Oh, pshaw, you say. What kind of nonsense is that? Well, recall again that Bill Clinton, at about the time of his first inauguration, mentioned that a man who had great influence on him was Carroll Quigley, professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University. Quigley, who died some years ago, was a certified liberal elitist, but he said something quite intriguing in his excellent book Tragedy and Hope, a 1,348-page history of modern times. On page 950, after mocking conservative theories of international influence, Quigley wrote: "There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. "I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims," he wrote, "and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies . . . but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known." The italics in the above quotes are mine. Poor Dr. Quigley didn't know, when his book was published in 1965, just how much "it" wished to remain unknown. The publisher, not long afterward, took the unusual step of taking the book out of print and destroying the plates without consulting Quigley. I verified this myself in a telephone interview with his widow. She said he had been extremely upset when he learned of it. He died not long afterward. Betcha a beer you've never heard much about Round Table Groups operating secretly in the United States to influence public policy. All of this started, according to Quigley, with John Ruskin, professor at Oxford, who developed this strange and frankly racist notion that the English upper classes were possessors of a magnificent tradition but, in order to save themselves, must uplift the downtrodden masses -- both in England and around the world. Cecil Rhodes became one of Ruskin's ardent disciples. Rhodes was also, of course, a dirty, rotten imperialist who, with financial support from Lord Rothschild and Alfred Beit, monopolized South Africa's diamond mines as DeBeers Consolidated Mines and built up Consolidated Gold Fields. Let Quigley take it from here: "These purposes centered on his [Rhodes] desire to federate the English-speaking peoples and to bring all the habitable portions of the world under their control. For this purpose Rhodes left part of his great fortune to found the Rhodes scholarships at Oxford to spread the English ruling class tradition . . . as Ruskin had wanted." Thus was born country-club liberalism and from these Round Table Groups came the Council on Foreign Relations and what is called in America "the Eastern Establishment." Shucks, folks, I think that this tony, high-class conspiracy is a lot more interesting than those blue- collar, right-wing conspiracies. I wonder if anybody has ever been called a racist for speaking to the Council on Foreign Relations. FOR MORE NEWS VISIT OUR SITE: http://www.theamericancause.org * Please feel free to forward this email across the USA! * Join our free "FTC" - FOR THE CAUSE - List!!! Send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of your email type: subscribe --- *** ISSUES *** *** ISSUES *** *** ISSUES *** The American Cause Internet Headquarters Web: http://www.theamericancause.org --- *** ACTION *** *** ACTION *** *** ACTION *** Coalition for The American Cause Network Web: http://www.ctacnet.org --- WebMaster - Linda Muller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Smail: 6862 Elm
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-Caveat Lector- from; http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Impeached POTUS Run for your life, it's Queen Thong by Mark Steyn YESTERDAY I climbed into my steel reinforced underwear, staked out my hotel lobby, and was rewarded with another glimpse of the temporarily interned intern. Monica is ample, but she's not Godzilla, she's not King Kong or even Queen Thong. Yet grown senators are fleeing in terror: "Run for your life!" cry terrified Republicans. "She's gonna talk about cigars in the well of this august body." "She's been interviewed 22 times," scream petrified Democrats. "She has nothing new to add. Aarggh!" Thump! Thump! Thump! Queen Thong's pounding down the Mall, she's climbing up the Capitol dome, she's tossing Republican senators around like matchsticks, she's snapping their spines and hurling them to the ground . . . Oh, hang on. Republican senators don't have any spines. In public, the Democrats' position is that Monica won't reveal anything new; in private, they worry that, even if she reads out the phone book, just her girly, giggly voice on the witness stand will emphasise what the President did - he didn't just pleasure himself with her, he manoeuvred her into legal jeopardy and conscripted her into his obstruction of justice. Of course, these offences pale beside Monica's: she threatens the dignity of the Senate. So, as in 1950s sci-fi movies like Invasion of the August Body Snatchers, a remote, close-knit community cowers before the world's most terrifying unemployed 25-year-old airhead. The US Senate, like everything else in Washington, has now taken on the forlorn character of President Clinton's sex life: it's nervous about reaching "completion". Late on Monday, The World's Greatest Deliberative Body was solemnly deliberating whether to move a Democrat motion to dismiss, a Republican motion to dismiss the motion to dismiss, Senator Trent Lott's motion to dismiss all debate on the motion to dismiss, Senator Russell Feingold's motion to dismiss the motion to dismiss and split it into two motions to dismiss twice, or - in a spirit of bipartisan compromise - a motion to dismiss the motion to dismiss the motion to dismiss and instead split it into two motions - one to convict the President and one not to dismiss him. I may have missed a couple: the Senate produces more motions than a gallon of extra-strength Ease-O-Lax. But they are, in every sense, just going through the motions. Yesterday, after the move to dismiss, they moved to dat miss - Monica Lewinsky - and the vexed question of live witnesses. Bill McCollum made the case for the House impeachment managers: he's the one who looks like Leslie Crowther, if you can imagine Leslie Crowther cross-examining interns about who put whose Crackerjack pencil where. Betty Currie was not on the list of potential witnesses, having been vetoed by Republican senators who feared that the sight of House prosecutors questioning a black woman would unnerve the American people. Presumably, most of them have never seen a white Republican man talking to an African-American woman. The President must be kicking himself for not hitting on the black interns: if Monica were a person of colour, those guilt-ridden Senate honkies wouldn't dare call her. Meanwhile, as Monica waddles towards the chamber, Democrats do their best to toss any old obstacle in her path. Iowa's Senator Tom Harkin maintains that House Republicans should not have interviewed her because the Constitution reserves "the sole right of impeachment" to the Senate. The House managers have no right leaning on witnesses when the Constitution reserves the sole right to lean on witnesses to the President. Other Democrats are disputing the expenses claims, demanding to know what it cost taxpayers to put Monica up in this hotel. The Office of Independent Counsel has said it only paid "the government rate" for the room. "Monica's staying in the Presidential Suite for $5,000 a night!" says one Democrat. "She's staying in the Presidential Suite for $10,000 a night!" roars another 10 minutes later. Who knows? Maybe 5,000 bucks is "the government rate". The hotel management tells me only that she was in "a secure suite". "You mean," I ask, with a shudder, "I'm in an insecure suite?" Whether or not the suite's insecure, I certainly am. I'm never going to get a room upgrade until I get a subpoena from Ken Starr. The London Telegraph, Jan. 27, 1999 Impeached POTUS Social Security Socialism by Milton Friedman President Clinton proposed in his State of the Union address that a quarter of the funds set aside for Social Security be invested in the stock market--a truly radical plan. Margaret Thatcher reversed Britain's drift to socialism by selling off government-owned enterprises. President Clinton now proposes that the U.S. government do precisely the opposite: buy private equities, thereby becoming part-owner of U.S.
[CTRL] Feds Plan Y2K Spin Control
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/17527.html?wnpg=1 A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/17527.html"Political News from Wired News/A - Feds Plan Y2K Spin Control by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. 26.Jan.99.PST WASHINGTON -- Fears of Y2K panic have prompted the federal government to begin quietly preparing a media strategy designed to assuage public fears of blackouts or other potential infrastructure failures. John Koskinen, assistant to President Clinton and chairman of the White House's Y2K council, has entered into discussions with a public-relations firm, Wired News has learned. The firm has recommended conducting awareness surveys and honing a "stay-calm" message based on the results. The campaign is designed to thwart widespread hoarding and extreme reactions to Y2K, including the possibility of bank runs and stockpiling-sparked shortages. Fifty percent of Americans plan to take extra cash out of the bank and one-third say they'll stockpile food before the new millennium, according to a recent Time Magazine and CNN poll. Officials have suggested other strategies, such as asking broadcasters to donate free air time and creating a media-advisory group that would work hand in hand with the federal Y2K council to soothe anxious Americans. During a December closed-door meeting held by the council at Federal Reserve Board headquarters, attendees bemoaned negative media coverage and suggested staging "community cooperation" events to calm jitters and spur positive press coverage, a participant said. Jack Gribben, a spokesman for the council, stressed that no decisions have been made. "Both communications and the issue of communicating with customers and constituents were discussed." He said that "we have had discussions" with at least one public-relations company, but "there's nothing firm at this point." At the council meeting, the Federal Communications Commission's Marsha MacBride and the US Postal Service's Richard Weirich reportedly suggested a federal project to monitor the public's reaction to Y2K. An Agriculture Department representative complained that the agency's most frequent telephone inquiry has become: "How many cans of food should I stockpile for my family?" Radical responses to Y2K have become a top concern among Washington insiders such as Koskinen. Last year, he warned, "We need to avoid creating panic and precipitous, counterproductive activity." The head of the Senate's Year 2000 committee has echoed that sentiment. "Even if the Y2K problem is solved, the panic side of it can end up hurting us as badly," Senator Robert Bennett (R-Utah) said in December. When an industry-advisory group met for the first time last Thursday, members fretted over how to prevent public overreaction to Y2K. The members of the group include incoming Securities Industry Association chairman Roy Zuckerberg, United Airlines chairman Jerry Greenwald, North American Electric Reliability Council chairman Erle Nye, and Scott Anderson of the American Bankers Association. Officials also are growing edgy about releasing sensitive information. Last May, the National Security Agency classified a Defense Department Y2K database as "highly sensitive," prompting the military to yank it from the Internet. In response to a Senate request, the General Accounting Office last fall compiled reports on each industry's Y2K readiness, but has not yet released the complete results to the public. Some agency Y2K officials even worry that the bulky quarterly reports published by the White House's Office of Management and Budget every four months contain too much information. Even though Koskinen said as recently as two weeks ago that "our strategy is based on the premise that the public has great common sense and will respond appropriately when they have the necessary information," the Clinton administration and Congress have taken steps to close meetings. A bill that Clinton signed last fall was widely touted by the White House and a bipartisan group of legislators as a way to limit inappropriate Y2K liability. But a key provision bars the public from attending meetings of the Y2K council and its subcommittees. The Year 2000 Information and Readiness Disclosure Act says the federal open-meeting act "shall not apply to the working groups established under this section." "There's a certain necessity, to a degree, in having private meetings. We want to encourage people to be candid about their progress, and opening the meetings up to the press and the public doesn't always encourage candor," Gribben said. The federal public-relations strategy is still evolving, and the cost of a national advertising campaign may turn out to be prohibitive. But Koskinen has already decided to spotlight success stories among federal agencies. At a press conference in December, for instance, Clinton hailed Social Security's Y2K progress. "The Social Security system is now 100
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: FDIC chair wants Know Your Customer regs reduced (but not gone)
http://www.americanbanker.com/cgi-bin/read_freestory?990127WASH002 WASHINGTON Wednesday, January 27, 1999 FDIC Chief, ABA Lining Up Against 'Know-Your-Customer' By Scott Barancik WASHINGTON - Citing customer privacy concerns and potential burdens on small banks, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Donna A. Tanoue wants the proposed know-your-customer regulations to be scaled back. "It's evident to me personally that we are going to have to do something different than what was proposed," Ms. Tanoue said in an interview. Meanwhile, the American Bankers Association plans to ask regulators to kill the controversial know-your-customer plan outright. [...] -- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ --
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Indian government goes on red alert against US crypto
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OpenMail-Hops: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:18:29 +0800 Subject: TechWeb article on Encryption Issues in India TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] India Warns Against U.S. Security Software (01/14/99, 8:31 p.m. ET) By Malcolm Maclachlan, TechWeb Internet privacy advocates have said for years that limits on encryption exports could cripple the U.S. software industry, and now the Indian government has agreed with them. In a statement that has gone mostly unnoticed in the United States, the Indian Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) on Monday issued a "red alert" warning against all U.S.-made network-security software. In a letter to the Central Vigilance Commission (CVC), an Indian intelligence agency, the DRDO cited the limits the U.S. government places on encryption exports as the reason for the alert. The U.S. National Security Agency limits most exported products to relatively weak 64-bit encryption. [...] The head of the CVC indicated that he might soon make it mandatory for all Indian financial institutions to buy only security software developed in India. In its announcement, the DRDO said it was working on a prototype security protocol for India, due out within three months. [...] -- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ --
Re: [CTRL] Osiris's Grave Detected Near The . . . [PoS/396]
-Caveat Lector- from: priory of sion digest 396 Message: 4 - Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:30:03 +1000 From: x Subject: OT Re: Fwd: [CTRL] "Osiris's Grave" Detected Near The... Hi all, As far as I know at this stage, Hawass has claimed this to be perhaps a 'symbolic' Tomb of Osiris. This discovery has been news for a while...it was originally found about 1934 by Selim Hassan. Just recently they started excavating again, I have heard some mention that Dr Mark Lehner actually used to go swimming in this water because it is extremely clear. They found some relatively young tombs, but down deeper they found this place. There has been a fair amount of coverage of it, at the National Geographic conference in December Hawass described it as perhaps being a 'symbolic' Tomb of Osiris, which may have caused confusion. Ummm, where's that link http://www.thenoiseroom.com/giza.htm This has a good objective description of what's going on, as well as a link to a really good site describing this area of the plateau. But, there is definitely something weird up. Whether it's just for the tourist dollar, or there is some sort of cover-up...Zahi Hawass is doing some genuinely weird things. After disavowing that the 'Queen's Chamber' shaft had a secret chamber, he is now saying that they will open it in a special event at the turn of the millenium. Also on the millenium, Hawass says they will place a temporary golden cap on the top of the Great Pyramidfulfilling the Masonic story (also seen on the US dollar bill) that when the gold cap is put back on the GP, a new order of ages will be established. And now, he is mentioning a 'symbolic' tomb of Osirisnot the real thing, but just enough to make you wonder. Peace Greg --- The Daily Grail http://www.powerup.com.au/~glt/grail --- Whom does the Grail serve? = Message: 5 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:45:28 -0500 From: xm Subject: Re: OT Re: Fwd: [CTRL] "Osiris's Grave" Detected Near The... When are all of you people going to wake up and realize that Zahi Hawass is a TOOL ? Plain and simple. It's quite obvious that they either have discovered something interesting or are on the verge of it, and he's covering it up. I mean, come on ! He still tries to sell the ridiculous story that the GP was built by Khufu. THINK ! - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The 'Water Shaft' on the Giza Plateau - The Facts
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza9.htm A HREF="http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza9.htm"The Noise Room - The 'Water Shaft' on the Giza /A - The 'Water Shaft' on the Giza Plateau - The Facts Updated : 19th January 1999 Dear Readers, Over the past year there has been much speculation and rumour concerning the so-called "water shaft" under the causeway which connects Khafres (Chephrens) Pyramid to the Valley Temple. Allegations and claims of tunnels leading to the Sphinx, the Pyramids and even an underground city have been all been voiced over the Internet. Both my co-author, Ian Lawton, and I wish to dispel those rumours and present the facts as known to us. In April 98 Ian and I joined forces to research and write a book covering the history of exploration at Giza to the present day. Our aim, in focusing on Giza, is to document the explorations, the discoveries, the theories, the hunt for secret chambers and the politics connected with the Giza Plateau and its immediate environs. In October 1998 whilst on a research mission in Egypt we were presented with an opportunity to access all three levels of the "water shaft". Driven by the desire to explore the underground chambers, check the rumours and see it for ourselves, we took up this opportunity and viewed it firsthand. Before preceding with a brief description, we would like to point out that another researcher and writer, Nigel Skinner-Simpson, has done much to bring this shaft to the worlds attention. His objective and factual reporting is to be commended and can be viewed at "The Shaft, The Subway and The Causeway" Upon climbing down 20 or so feet to the first level chamber of the "water shaft" one proceeds north to a set of two ladders that drop down some 45+ feet. There is nothing worthy of note at this upper level. Climbing down to the second level and turning round to view this chamber, which is oriented north - south, one sees seven rock cut sub-chambers: 3 on the right, 3 on the left and one at the far northern end. Most are empty except for one sub- chamber on the left and another on the right. Within these two sub-chambers lie granite sarcophagi, with lids slid to one side and empty save for some rubbish. These most probably date to the 26th Dynasty. Over to ones right, on the eastern side, is another vertical shaft proceeding down to the third level, perhaps some 25 feet below the second level. Reaching the bottom of the ladder and facing the shaft wall, one turns around to see a most unusual rock-cut chamber some 100+ feet below ground level. This third chamber or level is orientated east - west. Within the centre of this, is a sarcophagus set in a rectangular depression in the ground, covered by a shallow level of natural water. Surrounding the coffer is a raised level of rock/soil that forms a rectangle around the depression, some 2-3 feet wide. On the outside of this is an outer channel filled with water, itself surrounded by the chamber walls. In the north-western corner of the chamber wall is a channel that diminishes in size, and could have once been a natural water inlet. In any case it becomes far too small to form a secret passageway to the pyramids. All levels in the "water shaft" are unadorned and without hieroglyphs. Although this is an unusual and perhaps unique chamber, there are no secret passageways heading towards the Pyramids, Sphinx or underground cities. As to the history of the "water shaft", during the 1930s the eminent archaeologist Dr. Selim Hassan excavated and explored down to the second level and he attempted to hand-pump the water from the third level but without success. On 4 March 1935 The Daily Telegraph published a column on the discovery of this shaft by Dr. Hassan. Sub-headed "Colonnaded Hall in Rock", this article, as now, fuelled much speculation. But the simple fact of the mater is that Hassan observed the third level through the water without exploration. There is still evidence to suggest that it once had two, if not four, rock-cut pillars rising at the corners of the raised surround to meet the roof of the chamber, although only rough protrusions on the ceiling and surround still exist now to support this view. Throughout the intervening years the third level of this shaft was known about but left unexplored due to the high level of the water table. By the time of the Schor Foundation/Boris Said expedition of 96/97, the water level in the shaft had dropped significantly. Said and Dobecki, a seismologist, entered the third level and discovered a sarcophagus lid partially buried in detritus. Conducting GPR surveys over the lid they deduced that a possible anomaly/void/tunnel may exist, traversing on an east-west access. We believe, having seen the chamber post-excavation, that this anomaly was caused by not only the hollow of the coffer lid and the hollow coffer itself, but also the depression the coffer was set in. We are of course open-minded
[CTRL] The Latest From Giza -11/29/98
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza7.htm A HREF="http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza7.htm"The Noise Room - The Latest From Giza - 29th No /A - The Latest From Giza Updated : 29th November 1998 Whilst on the Stars and Signs Tour we were able to find out first hand all of the latest goings on. Here therefore is the information we discovered. As most people are probably aware the Great Pyramid at Giza is still closed to the general public. We were able to enter with special permission one evening and could see exactly what work has been going on since March. The Grand Gallery was still being cleaned when we entered and the ladders and cleaning materials were more than evident. We can also confirm that new electrical cables have been installed for upgraded lighting systems within the pyramid. These steel wire armoured cables do indeed run up into small access ways - photographs of which can be seen on many other websites depicted as power sources for new secret excavations. These cables are however to power the upgraded lighting system, ventilation system (which has been viscously installed into one of the star shafts) and the Closed Circuit Television system which is present in both the Kings and Queens Chambers. In the Kings Chamber it was noted by Michael Baigent (author of The Exilier and The Stone and Ancient Traces) that the part of the lid of the sarcophagus is no longer present. It should also be noted that we had full run of the pyramid and could not find any evidence of secret excavations. We were lucky enough to have a special lecture followed by a question and answer session with Dr Zahi Hawass. At this lecture he confirmed that the door in the star shaft would be opened in a live international broadcast on New Years Eve / Day 1999/2000. He also confirmed that the pyramid would indeed receive a golden capstone (he refused to call it a benben) on New Years Eve and that Jean Michel Jarre would indeed play a concert for the millennium. Dr Hawass also stated that they intend to remove all camel and horse riders / traders from the Giza plateau in the near future. He also restated his commitment to close the pyramids in rotation to enable continued restoration. He also pointed out that it was his desire to close the monuments permanently and enable visitors to virtually enter them with the aid of IMAX films. Robert Bauval, Graham Hancock and John Anthony West were involved in a fairly lengthy and at times heated (although still with the new found respect and friendliness) debate with Dr Hawass for a special documentary for South African Television along with another for Americas Fox Network. Unfortunately Bauval and Hancock were unable to dive off of the harbour at Alexandria to see the newly discovered finds due to bad weather and illness of the dive leader. This is being rescheduled for a later date. On a more general note, now is an ideal time to visit Egypt as the number of tourists is greatly reduced after the trouble earlier in the year. Although security is tight it is reassuring rather than oppressive. Finally from the eyes of us here, virgin visitors to Egypt, we cannot recommend enough a trip to this fabulous country. By reading this you are showing a genuine interest in the place and its fascinating history. Its splendours cannot be imagined by viewing them on a monitor or in a book, the only way to learn and discover is to visit. The Noise Room would like to thank Robert Bauval and all at Quest Travel (Mohammed Nazmy, Medhat, Bassam El Shamma and Imil) for this incredible opportunity and for looking after us so well. Well what did you think ? More to come soon so keep your bookmark in place. Why not E-mail us and tell us what you think - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF
[CTRL] A Position Statement From Graham Hancock On The Antiquity And Meaning Of The Giza Monuments
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza8.htm A HREF="http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza8.htm"The Noise Room - A Position Statement From Grah /A - A Position Statement From Graham Hancock On The Antiquity And Meaning Of The Giza Monuments Updated : 29th November 1998 22 July 1998 I am the author of "Fingerprints of the Gods" and the co-author (with Robert Bauval) of "Keeper of Genesis" (entitled "The Message of the Sphinx" in the United States). Before continuing I advise all who are interested in this position statement to read first the critique of my work posted by Martin Stower on his website (http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~martins/Pyramid/kogenesis.html). Please also refer to John Anthony West's open letter to Martin Stower posted on Egyptnews. (1) Re the 'quarry mark' hieroglyphs in the relieving chambers above the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid, I have rightly been taken to task for uncritically supporting Zecharia Sitchin's forgery theory. I reported this theory in Fingerprints (published 1995) and in Keeper/Message (published 1996). (2) As an author and researcher I hope that my work will always be 'in progress' and never finished or set in stone. When I come across new evidence that casts doubt on theories that I previously endorsed I am ready to change my views and admit to past mistakes. (3) As John West kindly reported in his open letter to Stower I have changed my views on the validity of the forgery theory. The relieving chambers are strictly off limits to the public and are extremely difficult to gain access to. I had been unable to obtain permission to visit them prior to the publication of Keeper/Message in 1996. However, in December 1997, Dr Zahi Hawass allowed me to spend an entire day exploring these chambers. There were no restrictions on where I looked and I had ample time to examine the hieroglyphs closely, under powerful lights. Cracks in some of the joints reveal hieroglyphs set far back into the masonry. No 'forger' could possibly have reached in there after the blocks had been set in place - blocks, I should add, that weigh tens of tons each and that are immovably interlinked with one another. The only reasonable conclusion is the one which orthodox Egyptologists have already long held - namely that the hieroglyphs are genuine Old Kingdom graffiti and that they were daubed on the blocks before construction began. (4) I have stated my view on this matter several times in public lectures during and indeed before 1998. In my September 1998 book "Heaven's Mirror" (with photographer Santha Faiia), and in the accompanying television series "Quest for the Lost Civilization", I likewise make absolutely clear my full acceptance that the Great Pyramid (or at any rate most of it) was built during the Fourth Dynasty. (5) This is not a sudden conversion. Although I was still open to the erroneous forgery theory while Keeper/Message was being written, I was also very much open to the orthodox theory that the Giza pyramids were Fourth Dynasty work - irrespective of the provenance of the quarry marks. The central thesis of Keeper/Message -- that the Giza monuments were built to commemorate the sky of 10,500 BC -- does not require us to conclude that all the monuments were necessarily built in that epoch. On the contrary I wrote in Keeper/Message that "the Great Pyramid must have some extremely strong connection with the epoch of 2500 BC - the approximate date at which all orthodox Egyptologists and archaeologists in fact believe it to have been built." Earlier, in Fingerprints of the Gods, I suggested that the ground-plan of the Giza monuments might have been devised in 10,500 BC but that the monuments themselves could have been built over an 8000-year period (from 10,500 BC down to 2500 BC). I pointed out that the Great Pyramid's famous star shafts unequivocally link the monument to the epoch of 2500 BC and that the construction levels through which the shafts run might be explained as "the later work of the same long-lived cult that laid out the Giza ground-plan in 10,450 BC.' (6) Robert Bauval and I have jointly evolved a tentative 'theory of Giza' over the past five years of our work together. Briefly this theory -- which we offer as a serious alternative to the orthodox 'tombs and tombs only' hypothesis -- is that the three great pyramids of Giza, and the Great Sphinx, form a symbolic architectural model of some of the principal stars of the Duat sky-region (through which the Pharaohs believed that their souls would travel after death) as that sky-region appeared at dawn on the spring equinox in the epoch of 10,500 BC. Citing the geological findings of John Anthony West and Robert Schoch, we have argued, and continue to maintain, that the Great Sphinx and its associated megalithic structures may actually have been built in that di stant epoch. We have also argued, and continue to maintain, that the three great pyramids in general are likely to be
[CTRL] Robert Bauval Discusses The 'Wider Plan'
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza5.htm A HREF="http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza5.htm"The Noise Room - Robert Bauval Position Stateme /A - More reports still at site. Om K - A Position Statement By Robert Bauval Regarding The So-Called 'Wider Plan' Of The Star-Pyramid Correlation Theory Updated : 4th August 1998 24 JULY 1998 I am the author of THE ORION MYSTERY (co-authored with Adrian Gilbert) and the author of KEEPER OF GENESIS (co-authored with Graham Hancock). Some critical questions have recently been raised in connection with the so-called "wider plan" of the Orion-Pyramids correlation theory presented in the above mentioned books for which I would like to formally and publicly state my present position on this matter. The core of the Orion-Pyramids correlation theory, which I started to develop in 1983, was based on the pattern of the three stars forming the Belt Of Orion, namely Al Nitak , Alnilam and Mintaka (Zeta, Epsilon and Delta Orionis). This theory was presented during 1983 to 1986 to various eminent Egyptologists and other academics, including Dr. I.E.S. Edwards, Dr. T.G.H. James, Dr. Jaromir Malek, Dr. Cathleen Keller and others. It was subsequently submitted to Dr. Alessandra Nibbi, editor of the Oxford journal 'Discussion In Egyptology' in 1988 and published in Vol. 13, 1989, pp. 7-18 under the title "A Master Plan For The Three Pyramids Of Giza Based On the Configuration Of The Three Stars Of The Belt Of Orion". In this article I conclude that "A Master Plan with intent to correlate the great pyramids of Giza with the pattern of the Belt of Orion appears very likely indeed. A question which must follow is: does this master plan include a wider correlation between the geomorphic of the sky landscape about Orion (three belt stars) and the landscape about the Giza necropolis ? Raising this question is justified, for the Pyramid Texts indeed confront us with complete celestial topography onto which actual terrestrial natural and man-made features are imagined to exist." In the same article I bring to attention that "it is worth noting, therefore, that the relative position of the Belt of Orion to the Milky Way also correlates to the relative position of the Giza pyramids to the Nile." The DE vol.13 article does not mention other pyramids or other natural features in the so-called 'wider' plan hypothesis other than the Nile River adjacent to the Giza region. Much later, in 1994, in my book THE ORION MYSTERY (first by published by William Heinemann in February 1994 ) I suggested that the pyramid of Zawyat Al Aryan and the pyramid of Abu Ruwash were reprenting stars in the constellation of Orion, namely Bellatrix and Saiph, and that the two pyramids of Dahshur correlated to two stars in the Taurus-Hyades constellation, namely Aldebaran and Epsilon Tauri. These supplementary correlation to the core theory of Giza Pyramids/Orion's Belt theory became known as the 'wider plan' when Prof. Vivian Davies, curator of the Egyptian Antiquities Department at the British Museum coined the phrase on the BBC2 Everyman Special documentary 'The Great Pyramid: Gateway To The Stars' (based on The Orion Mystery). Prof. Davies, too, stated that he did not agree with this 'wider plan' because he had great difficulty in considering the possibility that the ancient Egyptians could mark the position of stars on the ground over distances of several kilometres. This was a fair and reasonable comment which was also reiterated by Dr. Jaromir Malek, Director of the Griffith Institute at the Ashmolean Museum in his review of The Orion Mystery (see DE vol. 30, 1994, pp. 101-114). It must be pointed out that the 'wider plan' hypothesis does not in any way alter the core element of the Orion-pyramid correlation theory presented in DE 13, 1989, namely that the three large Pyramids of Giza and their relative position to the meridian axis of the Nile correlate with the three stars of Orion's belt and their relative position to the meridian axis of the Milky Way. This Giza/Orion's belt correlation is strongly buttressed by the various passages in the Pyramid Texts (viz. PT 802, 820 etc..) and, of course, the alignment of the southern shaft of the King's Chamber in the Cheops pyramid with Orion's belt (precessed to the epoch c.2500 BC). There is much doubt among Egyptologists, even today, as to whether the 'unfinished' pyramid of Zawyat Al Aryan belonged to the IV Dynasty or to the III Dynasty. The 'pyramid' itself, as seen today, is but a large underground infrastructure cut into the natural rock and leaves much doubt over its originally intended dimensions or, indeed, whether the project was 'abandoned' before beginning the superstructure with quarried limestone blocks. As for the Abu Ruwash pyramid, most Egyptologists seem to agree that it belonged to the IV Dynasty king, Djedefre (a son of Cheops), although very little remains of the superstructure of this pyramid, and it,
[CTRL] An Official Statement Regarding Operation Hermes
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza6.htm A HREF="http://www.thenoiseroom.com/egypt/giza6.htm"The Noise Room - Official Statement Regarding O /A - Many embedded links at site. Om K - An Official Statement Regarding Operation Hermes By Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval, Colin Wilson, Andrew Collins, Christopher Knight, Robert Lomas, Simon Cox And Alan Alford. Updated : 4th August 1998 Dear readers, friends and colleagues around the world, As many of you may be aware, there has been a great deal of controversy and confusion surrounding the publication of the book 'Hall Of The Gods' (the "Book") by William Heinemann of Random House, UK (the "Publishers"). The Book, written by Mr. Nigel Appleby, was published on the 2nd June 1998 and withdrawn for sales as from the 5th June 1998 by the Publishers. This was on account of complaints from several published authors (12 to this date). See articles in The Observer of 14 June 1998, the Daily Mail 15 June 1998 and the Daily Telegraph 20 June 1998. Nigel Appleby is also the Chairman of the newly created HERMES FOUNDATION INTERNATION and a director of the HERMES OPERATION Ltd. (the "Company"), the latter a company registered in November 1997 at Company House in the UK. The principal activities of Hermes Operation Ltd. was declared on the Hermes Operation Website The first announced activity was to be an expedition in Egypt to survey a region next to the city of Cairo in Egypt in where Mr. Appleby believed the legendary 'Hall Of Records' of a lost civilisation was located (see also the Daily Telegraph of 30 May 1998 and the Daily Mirror of 15 June 1998). To this effect, Hermes Foundation International (HFI) solicited funds, donations and sponsorships from private individuals and companies around the world. HFI also recruited fee-paying members from the general public. According to Mr. Appleby the 18-strong team of Hermes Operation Ltd. was scheduled to fly to Cairo on the 27 June 1998 (see H.O. Website, and also the Sunday Mirror of 14 June 1998). Due to lack of official permits from the Supreme Council Of Antiquities in Egypt (see Documents 4 5 here attached. Also see Egypt's newspapers Al Ahram 15 June 1998; Al Goumhoria 15 June1998 and Akhbar Al Yom 15 June 1998), the Hermes Operation Ltd.'s 'expedition' to Cairo was aborted in late June 1998. In respect of the above, the authors and researchers (the "Authors") GRAHAM HANCOCK, ROBERT G. BAUVAL, COLIN WILSON, ANDREW COLLINS, ROBERT LOMAS, CHRISTOPHER KNIGHT, SIMON COX AND ALAN ALFORD, wish to make the following official statement and declaration to their readers, friends and colleagues around the world regarding HERMES FOUNDATION INTERNATIONAL and its affiliated company OPERATION HERMES LTD., its directors, partners, associates and sponsors. 1) Attention was first brought to the Authors re: Mr. Appleby and Hermes Foundation International Hermes Operation Ltd. through an article in the Sunday Times of 12 August 1997 written by reporter Cherry Norton and entitled "Raiders Of The Lost Archives 'Find Pharaohs' Records' ( for a full text of the ST article see Document 1 here attached). 2) In view of the very controversial nature of this Sunday Times artcles, Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval asked Simon Cox, a researcher and author of Egyptological subjects, to make contact with Mr. Appleby to ask him more about his forthcoming expedition to Egypt to find the 'Hall Of Records', as advertised in the Sunday Times article by Cherry Norton (see Document 1 here attached). 3) We, the Authors, namely Graham Hancock, Robert G. Bauval, Colin wilson, Christopher Knight, Robert Lomas, Andrew Collins, Simon Cox and alan alford hereby confirm that we have absolutely no affiliation orbusiness involvement --nor intend to have in the future-- with the Hermes Foundation International, Hermes Operation Ltd. and/or its associates, partners, directors or sponsors. 4) In view of the mounting controversy of this matter in the Internet rumour mill and in the media, we feel that it is important to keep the general public fully informed on this matter, and be fully aware of the facts. 5) In this respect, we have here below attached the following unedited documents in chronological order and in their entirety: DOCUMENT 1: REPORT ON THE HERMES FOUNDATION BY SIMON COX, September 1997. DOCUMENT 2: HERMES FOUNDATION INTERNATIONAL Publishing Volume 1 Issue No.6 Dec 1997 OPERATION HERMES NEWSLETTER DOCUMENT 3: STATEMENT BY CHRIS OGILVIE-HERALD, ex-editor of Quest Magazine Dated July 1998 DOCUMENT 4: Letter-E Mail To Dr. Jaromir Malek (from Robert G. Bauval) dated 27 July 1998 DOCUMENT 5: 'TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN' Statement by Dr. Zahi Hawass Ph.D under-secretary Of State For The Giza Monuments, and director-General For The Giza Pyramids Saqarra dated 7 June 1998. N.B. a) All Authors have only recently examined the above listed documents in their entirety. b) The above listed documents are
Re: [CTRL] Fungus Eyed As Drug Crop Killer
-Caveat Lector- Some one had this on here recently and I will attempt to find it. Marijuana is related to some major agricultural plants that we use for food. On the side - check out Acidophilus - it is a bacteria that if you do not have you will DIE! If we pasteurize, irradiate, and use antibiotics in all our food then there will be no enzymes or anything to help you digest that food. Nothing to help kick start you gut after your next antibiotic shot. That shot can kill you at that time. Pesticided, Irradiated, or antibioticly cell dead - fruit and vegetables, meat, and biologically dead earth from herbicides, pesticides, etc. This is a whole lot closer than we realize. There have to be some people because of their junk diets that are already walking dead and it will not take much to tip their scales or to at least tip them into cancer. Biological agents from another country? No way - whole scale genocide at home. They are trying to say this is the will of the people and anyone large enough that has cued in Banks etc. Have been told that there will still be some alive. They need to re-write history for this to happen and if there are too many people will that be allowed to happen? No one will be reproductively viable - if you want a child you will have to pay to have one cloned, if they allow that. All they will need is a few brains in bottles that are hooked up to holograms so that those personalities do not realized that everything has been taken. They want to say that it is the will of the people that the people think that there are too many of them. What would the leaders say - well they agreed - they just did not realize that they would have to go too for this to happen. I say that if there is any other Galactic Cultures would they want us out there if we can not even take care of our own playpen EARTH and the planets around it? On that basis do you think that Bush and Clinton and the rest see any future for them out in the stars? They and their kind would not be wanted so they are going to control the Earth right here and keep us here or else try to re-write history and hide behind everyone else again. They thought that they could rule in the open and realize that they can not - if they ever want us to be allowed out of our area of the Solar System. Will add this to the new essay as soon as I catch up on my work. Ah, I am watching my food and trying to not need a shot... Laura AKA The Pied Piper http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm -Original Message- From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fungus Eyed As Drug Crop Killer -Caveat Lector- On 26 Jan 99, at 22:06, AP wrote: Environmental Protection Agency scientists believe no harm would come to humans or animals as well. That makes me feel soo much better while they spray us with these fungi as a test. I guess this has nothing to do with the mold-induce sinus infections being reported lately. Steve Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's Midi http://www.anomalous-images.com/sash-mysterious_times.mid Anomalous Images Bulletin Board http://www.anomalous-images.com/wwwboard.html Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
[CTRL] Fwd: ABC News - FDA
-Caveat Lector- This news is about antibiotics given to cattle causing antibiotic resistant bacteria, and what the FDA is trying to do about it. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/antibiotics990126.html http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm 1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International 5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store. (anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartame VISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs Cases VISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Choose a Leader
-Caveat Lector- It is time to elect a world leader, and your vote counts. Here's the scoop on the three leading candidates. Candidate A: associates with ward healers and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day. Candidate B: was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of brandy every evening. Candidate C: is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any illicit affairs. Which of these candidates is your choice?? scroll down Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt Candidate B is Winston Churchill Candidate C is Adolph Hitler Kind of Scary... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Choose a Leader
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is time to elect a world leader, and your vote counts. ... Which of these candidates is your choice?? Zelda Gilroy. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * * *** SkeptiChat: sliding down the razor-blade of life *** now featuring SkeptiNews: All The News That's Fit To Question email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] APPEALS COURT REVIVES HUBBEL CASE (http://www.apbonline.com/911/1999/01/26/hubb
Folks, Here we go again! No end to the continuing sleaze. Bardhttp://www.apbonline.com/911/1999/01/26/hubbell0126_01.html APPEALS COURT REVIVES HUBBEL CASE.url
[CTRL] SkeptiNews Special: Disaster Info Sites
-Caveat Lector- source: The Quickening News - http://www.dealwithit.com/quicknews/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ GOVERNMENT SITES BLIZZARD http://www.fema.gov/fema/wntsft.htm EARTHQUAKE http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/eqmandr.html http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/ http://www.abag.ca.gov/bayarea/eqmaps/eqmaps.html http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/hazprep/index.html http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/hazard/sig_srch.html http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/programs/emergenc/prevent/quake/quake.htm FLOOD http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/flood/home.htm HURRICANE http://www.co.broward.fl.us/epi00219.htm http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ TORNADO http://www.tornadoproject.com/front.htm http://whyfiles.news.wisc.edu/013tornado/index.html TSUNAMI http://www.geophys.washington.edu/tsunami/specialized/events/events.html http://www.geophys.washington.edu/tsunami/welcome.html http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/hazard/tsevsrch.html http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/tsunamis/ http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tsunami/ http://lumahai.soest.hawaii.edu/tsunami.html http://www.ccalmr.ogi.edu/STH/links.html VOLCANO http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/current_volcs/current.html EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS After a Disaster http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/disaster/disaster.html American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/disaster Canada's Emergency Preparedness http://hoshi.cic.sfu.ca/~anderson/ Center for Disease Control http://www.cdc.gov/health/diseases.htm CNN Storm Center http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/storm.center/index.html Disaster Preparedness for Seniors - http://www.redcross.org/disaster/safety/seniors.html Disaster Resources http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~disaster/prepare.html Disaster Safety Tips http://www.redcross.org/disaster/safety/tips.html Earthquake Information http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/eqmandr.html Emergency Net News http://www.emergency.com/ennday.htm Emergency Preparedness Checklist http://www.fema.gov/home/pdf/fdp.htm#epc FEMA http://www.fema.gov/ The Global Health Disaster Network http://hypnos.m.ehime-u.ac.jp/GHDNet/ How to Prepare for Disasters http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~disaster/prep.html Internet Disaster Information Center http://www.disaster.net/ National Weather Service http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ NA Center for Emergency Communications http://www.nacec.org/index.html Pet Preparedness http://www.redcross.org/disaster/safety/pets.html Preparing for Severe Weather - http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~disaster/storm/sw_contents.html Provincial Emergency Program http://hoshi.cic.sfu.ca/~pep/ (Canada) Surfing for Earthquake Information - http://www.geophys.washington.edu/seismosurfing.html Survival Guide http://www.survival-center.com/guide/intro.htm Survival Kit http://www.survival-center.com/dl-list/dl1-toc.htm Today's Space Weather http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html US Geological Survey http://agram.wr.usgs.gov/ Water Supply and Storage http://theepicenter.com/tow02236.html THE YEAR 2000 American Red Cross Y2K http://www.redcross.org/disaster/safety/y2k.html Federal Emergency Management Y2K http://www.fema.gov/y2k/ Y2K Newswire (subscribe to this daily report) http://www.y2knewswire.com/ Ed Yourdon http://www.yourdon.com Gary North http://www.garynorth.com DISASTER RELIEF ORGANIZATIONS American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ CARE http://www.care.org/ DisasterRelief.org http://www.disasterrelief.org/ Doctors Without Borders http://www.dwb.org/index.htm Food Organization of the UN http://www.fao.org/ Freedom From Hunger http://www.freefromhunger.org/ International Medical Corps http://www.imc-la.com/ International Red Cross http://www.icrc.org/ International Red Cross/Red Crescent http://www.ifrc.org/home.htm REACT -- Radio Operators http://www.reactintl.org/ Second Harvest Online http://www.secondharvest.org/websecha/a_abtsh.htm UNICEF USA http://www.unicefusa.org/donation/support.html * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
[CTRL] Skeptic News Wednesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990126a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with : are editorial comments to provoke discussion. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Scientists Snap Deep Space Blast. (BBC) For the first time scientists have captured 'live' one of the most powerful explosions in the universe. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_263000/263880.stm # Relevant Stories: Hubble v Big Bang: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_202000/202255.stm # What caused the biggest explosion ever seen? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_109000/109738.stm # Recreating the big bang http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_102000/102802.stm # Seeing stars after a big bang http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_88000/88533.stm # Related Sites: BATSE: http://www.batse.com/ # Detecting bursts: http://cossc.gsfc.nasa.gov/gamma/new_win/nw9.html # Compton Gamma Ray Observatory: http://ssdoo.gsfc.nasa.gov/education/curricula/GRO_Ed_Brfs.html # History of gamma-ray bursts: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/htmltest/jbonnell/www/grbhist.html : Is this evidence of neutron stars colliding or being sucked into black holes, or galactic deities or civilizations at war, or just cosmic cought? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GENETIC ENGINEERING: WHY TAMPERING WITH MOTHER NATURE IS A RISKY BUSINESS. It starts with a tiny seed and it ends with an imperiled global ecosystem. Recent developments in bioengineering give corporate giants the ability to control world food supplies and disturb the genetic fabric of all life on earth. For fun and profit - http://www.gardeners.com/actionupdates.html @ Relevant information: Greenpeace www.greenpeace.org @ Rural Advancement Foundation International (RAFI) www.rafi.org @ The Union of Concerned Scientists www.ucsusa.org @ Mothers and Others www.igc.apc.org/mothers @ A SEED Europe www.antenna.nl/aseed/monsanto # California considers human cloning. (BBC) The state hosting many of the world's leading biotechnology companies has set up a formal advisory com- mittee to study the implications of human cloning. Who clones whom? See http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_263000/263956.stm # Ban DDT says wildlife group. (BBC) Wildlife campaigners say the chemical DDT is so dangerous it should be banned worldwide. Agribiz or ecocide - see http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_262000/262698.stm : How far can we go with reengineering genomes and ecosystems before 1) it all collapses, 2) we have to leave the planet, and/or 3) beneficient gods and/or aliens step in to set us right? Any other possibilities? What? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Siberia registers minus 68F. MOSCOW, Russia (UPI) Baby, it's cold outside! Weather officials have placed Siberia's temperature at the end of January at minus 55.6 Celsius (minus 68 Fahrenheit) a once in a century reading. Baby light my fire - http://nt.excite.com/news/u/990127/09/international-cold : Is this a result of global warming, El Nino, project HAARP, psychotemporal imbalances, Zetan cold-rays, voodoo run amok, divine will, or carelessness? # After El Niño and La Niña: Experts bet on return to normalcy and try to extend vision. http://www.msnbc.com/news/235397.asp : Can climate "return to normalcy" in an era of global warming? What will be the normalizing mechanism(s): reduced greenhouse gasses, Gaian homeostasis, big orbiting sunshields, divine/alien intervention, global heat pumps, luck? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Science vs. media? Author calls for truce. Michael Crichton urged scientists to foster their potential media stars rather than tearing them down. http://www.msnbc.com/news/235178.asp : Is a good PR/ad/media campaign all the scientific community needs? Really? # Renewed hope for predicting earthquakes. But it will take more data, more insight, more money. http://www.msnbc.com/news/235559.asp : Is money, insight and data all the scientific community needs? What else? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SUN LETS JINI OUT OF THE BOTTLE. Sun Microsystems unveiled its Jini tech- nology, which will - if it succeeds - make access to hardware devices on a network as transparent as accessing information on the World Wide Web. http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/26/jini.idg/index.html : Is total hardware/software control the ultimate goal of the NWO? Who else? Y2K TESTING - AN INSIDE STORY. Dugway has something to prove. First, It has to prove its proof is provable. It has to prove, to itself and to the Pentagon, that its mass of computers running that test will not lock up, or turn the wrong century after the hats and horns go silent at midnight, New Years Eve. http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/26/lefevre/index.html FEDERAL STORAGE DILEMMA LOOMS. As the US gov't works on fixing computer systems for the Y2K bug, another information technology crisis is building: whether all the data that federal computers generate can be preserved into the next century.
[CTRL] Missing Witness
-Caveat Lector- hello all, Does any have any information on the specific witness who were "missing" and unable to testify in various hearings: Chinagate, filegate, Whitewater, etc? Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Choose a Leader]
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- It is time to elect a world leader, and your vote counts. Here's the scoop on the three leading candidates. Candidate A: associates with ward healers and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day. Candidate B: was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of brandy every evening. Candidate C: is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any illicit affairs. Which of these candidates is your choice?? scroll down Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt Candidate B is Winston Churchill Candidate C is Adolph Hitler Kind of Scary... Hitler actually did have two controversial relationships: first with his niece Geli Raubal, who died under obscure and rather sinister circumstances; and then with Eva Braun, whom he married only minutes before killing her and then committing suicide, as the Russians advanced on Berlin in 1945. But he *was* a decorated war veteran, holder of the Iron Cross Second Class, and a vegetarian. He also did not smoke, drank only sparingly, and was devoted to animals. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moving toward a police state
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/26/99 9:47:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An impeached president is leading America ever closer toward the reality of a police state, and there's been hardly a peep from the civil liberties establishment. In fact, those who dare address such issues are quickly denounced as paranoid "extremists." We'll never get to stopping them if we continue to look for ONE person to blame this on. The gravitization toward a police state will not end merely by booting Clinton. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lennox-Gastaut syndrome- a case study of monosodium glutamate
Source: Journal of the American Dietetic Association, July 1997 v97 n7 p793(2). Title: 'We think your son has Lennox-Gastaut syndrome'- a case study of monosodium glutamate's effect on a child. Author: Anne Shovic, Robert D. Bart and Apryll M. Stalcup Abstract: A two-year-old boy presented with signs and symptoms of uncontrollable seizures of multiple types mimicking that of Lennox-Gestaut syndrome. It was later diagnosed as monosodium glutamate (MSG) related seizures following a comparison with a similarly related case wherein withdrawal from monosodium glutamate intake resulted to resumption of normal functions. A component of MSG known as aspartame acting as proconvulsant was believed to be the etiologic factor. Control of dietary MSG is the effective prevention of a more drastic intervention. Subjects: Glutamates - Health aspects Monosodium glutamate - Health aspects Chemicals - Adverse and side effects Electronic Collection: A19792007 RN: A19792007 Full Text COPYRIGHT 1997 American Dietetic Association Glutamate is a naturally occurring nonessential amino acid that serves as one of the body's excitatory neurotransmitters (1). It occurs in food as either a free amino acid or bound as a constituent in proteins. Although foods high in protein (eg, meat and dairy products) may have fairly high levels of bound glutamate, free glutamate in foods is thought to be more closely associated with adverse effects (1). Monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is used extensively as a flavor enhancer, can be a major source of free glutamate (2) . A US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) panel has declared MSG safe, stating that MSG poses little health risk (3). However, Daniel Raitin, PhD, who prepared the MSG report for the FDA stated, "Individual sensitivity to food is just beginning to be explored and there is no reason to believe people exquisitely sensitive to MSG are not out there" (4). In a report prepared by the Life Sciences Research Office, Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (1), the ad hoc expert panel acknowledged that preexisting conditions (eg, genetic predisposition, endogenous anomalies in glutamate metabolism, impaired vitamin B-6 metabolism or deficiency) might predispose persons to reactions from MSG. They concluded that it appeared that oral ingestion of MSG had the potential to provoke a response in some persons with severe unstable asthma. In addition, the panel validated some of the work by Olney (5) that implicates MSG in the formation of lesions in certain regions of the brain that are not protected by the blood-brain barrier. The Institute of Food Technologists has also declared MSG to be safe for human consumption (6). Any concern that is mentioned appears to apply only to a small number of adult subjects who consumed large amounts of MSG. Very little information is available on the effects of MSG in sensitivity-heightened children. The following case study illustrates these effects and the unique process that was taken by a mother and health professionals to deal with the situation. CASE STUDY In the fall of 1991, the mother of D.S., a 2.5-year-old boy, noticed that her normally healthy son was experiencing "head dropping" incidents. She later recalled that D.S.'s head would drop suddenly, as if he had sneezed but without the exhalation of air. Although D.S. did not seem to be affected by the episodes, his mother noted that he began stuttering and having unexplained tantrums. By the end of February 1992, the head-dropping episodes were occurring almost every night and with greater intensity. D.S. was brought to a pediatrician after head-dropping episodes two nights in a row in which he hit his head on a cup hard enough to leave a mark on his forehead. He was examined on March 3, 1992, but because he seemed so healthy, the pediatrician delayed obtaining an electro-encephalogram (EEG) or blood samples. On the evening of March 5, 1992, D.S. experienced 10 to 12 seizures that appeared to come in waves. His mother reported that D.S. had an initial seizure that seemed to involve more than just his head and seemed to be triggered by eating. That seizure was followed by 2 or 3 more seizures within 5 minutes. An emergency EEG was performed the next day and shortly after, a computerized axial tomography scan and spinal tap were done. According to the neurologist, D.S.'s EEG had the generalized spike and slow wave pattern that is characteristic of Lennox-Gastaut syndrome. Lennox- Gastaut syndrome is a rare form of epilepsy (about 1% of childhood epilepsies) characterized by multiple seizure types that cannot be controlled with currently available antiseizure medications (7,8). Most children with this form of epilepsy develop
[CTRL] Arabiana: 01-27a
-Caveat Lector- From ArabicNews.CoM Iraqi paper: Kuwait, Saudi Arabia are to pay dear price for US-British strikes Iraq, Politics, 1/27/99 The Iraqi daily al-Joumhureyah (Iraqi newspapers reflect official positions) said on Tuesday that Kuwait and Saudi Arabia will pay a heavy price for the raids launched by the US and British planes on Iraq. The paper asserted that Iraq will continue real confrontations by all available means against the no-fly zone imposed by "brutal force" in northern and southern Iraq. The paper warned both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia that Iraq's anger will eliminate "the rotten heads," sooner or later. The Iraqi daily called upon Arab peoples saying: "Sons of Arabism and Islam; you have to revenge your dignity, holy shrines, security, interests and sublime values." Iraqi parliament criticizes Kuwait and Saudi Arabia Iraq, Politics, 1/27/99 The Iraqi National Council (Parliament) on Tuesday called upon the Iraqi government to withdraw recognition of Iraq's border with Kuwait, in reaction to the raids carried out by the US and British troops on Iraq. In an emergency session it held on Tuesday morning, the council called for abrogating the decision taken by the Iraqi government in 1994 recognizing the borders between Iraq and Kuwait as set by the UN in 1993. Other Iraqi National Council members denounced the military facilities provided by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait for US and British warplanes which are carrying sorties in the no-fly zone area in southern Iraq. Other Iraqi parliamentarians called upon the Iraqi government to freeze UN resolutions relating to eliminating the Iraqi weapons. More parliamentarians accused Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait of taking part in the British air raids in Iraq and called for "setting up an Arab court to try them." + + + + + This is not unexpected. With the history of the Arabian states being one that has relied on Western resources to prop up what can be termed as "illegitimate" governments (in the sense the governments are not necessarily representative of the people)(rather exist to serve the needs and desires of the rulers), a lot depends on how well the existing governments can contain their own populations. AER From Associated Press Wednesday January 27 11:05 AM ET Iraqis Urge Saudi, Kuwait Coups Picture: AP Photo AP Photo By LEON BARKHO Associated Press Writer BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Iraq's parliament today urged the people of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to overthrow their rulers for supporting last month's U.S.-British airstrikes on Iraq. A statement issued at the end of a two-day session of the 250-member house called the two countries ``lackeys of the United States and Britain.'' Lawmakers in Iraq generally echo the official thinking, and parliamentary debates are seen as an outlet for government opinion. Today's parliamentary statement will be sent to President Saddam Hussein for ratification. The statement said Iraq has given up hopes of support from Arab governments after their foreign ministers, who met in Cairo on Sunday, failed to denounce the Dec. 16-19 bombing campaign. Iraq will now focus on ``Arab masses who stood against the December aggression and shook thrones and chairs'' across the Arab world. Pro-Iraq demonstrations swept the streets in many Arab capitals during the bombing, which followed Iraq's refusal to cooperate with a U.N. commission overseeing the dismantling of its weapons of mass destruction. Until the commission certifies that Iraq is free of such weapons, the U.N. Security Council refuses to lift trade sanctions imposed in wake of Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait, which led to the 1991 Gulf War. Iraq's parliament also asked the government to formally demand compensation from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait for aiding the United States and Britain in their attacks on Iraq since 1991. It said the ``Arab masses are called upon to stage a revolution against these agent regimes.'' Saddam made a similar call for overthrowing pro-American Arab governments early this month. Some of the 30 lawmakers who gave speeches also demanded that the government withdraw its recognition of Kuwait and stop all forms of cooperation with the United Nations. ``Kuwaiti and Saudi rulers are traitors and we have to topple them,'' said one lawmaker, Fadhil Saleh. Another, Sadeeq Muhammad, said ``we have to urge Arab masses to hit the Saudi and Kuwaiti regimes with everything at their disposal.'' Only one member counseled caution, urging his colleagues to ``try to be more sensible and practical'' in their approach. Youssef Hamdan, a former communist, told the parliament to stop thinking ``of rescinding the recognition of Kuwait'' and to put a halt to the jabs at Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. ``There is no need for this smear campaign,'' he said and warned that failing to abide by international obligations may throw Iraq ``into another war of grave consequences.'' AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Choose a Leader]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/27/99 3:29:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vegetarian. He also did not smoke, drank only sparingly, and was devoted to animals. Dogs perhaps, but Hitler hated horses. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moving toward a police state
-Caveat Lector- Live Free or Die! ditto DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sharpening Up Surveillance
-Caveat Lector- Sharpening Up Surveillance by Heidi Kriz 11:55 a.m. 27.Jan.99.PST -- New federally funded software promises to double the quality of fuzzy video surveillance camera footage, gratifying crime fighters but raising concerns among privacy watchdogs. Developed at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, the Video Imaging Tool for Aiding Law Enforcement, or VITALE, samples multiple frames of surveillance footage, compiles information on the subject from different views, and then fuses the data together to sharpen the image. "A lot of law enforcement agencies come to us for technology they don't have," said Oak Ridge National Laboratory spokesman Ron Walli. "We believe this new technology will make a significant difference in solving crimes that would perhaps otherwise remain unsolved." Researcher Ken Tobin and his team developed algorithms to cut back on the visual "noise" of video, clearing up the fuzzy, snowy stick-up footage familiar to consumers of "reality" police television programming. The technology has already helped put one killer behind bars. In July 1995, police in Chattanooga, Tennessee, were stymied by grainy footage that showed the killing of a convenience-store clerk during a robbery. The police sent the tape to Oak Ridge where, using a prototype version of VITALE, researchers clarified the image. A suspect was subsequently arrested and convicted. The Oak Ridge software package is not in commercial release yet, but law enforcement officials hope to be using a beta version by the end of the summer. Beyond law enforcement, the technology has medical-imaging and satellite-technology applications as well, Farrell said. But Barry Steinhardt, associate director of the ACLU, suggested that the technology is not likely to stop there. "What happens if other government agencies get hold of these videotapes, and use the images and information recorded not of criminals, but innocent private citizens?" Steinhardt asked. "It's part of a rush of technology that is making surveillance more and more commonplace and affordable," Steinhardt said. "We are going to have to resign ourselves to either all be living in glass houses, or we need to introduce some regulatory legislation." The ACLU has definite ideas about such legislation, according to Norman Siegal, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. The group wants laws to limit the amount of tape recorded, distributed, and stored, and also wants individuals notified when they are being taped. To demonstrate the near-ubiquity of public surveillance cameras, the NYCLU mapped the locations of 2,397 surveillance cameras visible on the streets of Manhattan. "We need to take an active, not passive, role in deciding how surveillance technology can be used in public," Siegal said. "Technology is driving us. We need to get hold of technology." Copyright © 1994-98 Wired Digital Inc. All rights reserved. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's Midi http://www.anomalous-images.com/PCH.MID Anomalous Images Bulletin Board http://www.anomalous-images.com/wwwboard.html Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Posse C
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.ndsn.org/JULY97/MILITARY.html The "Militarization" of the Anti-Drug Effort SPECIAL REPORT July 1997 by Chad Thevenot Since the end of the Cold War, the U.S. military has become increasingly involved in fighting the national anti-drug effort. Critics of this trend contend that "militarizing" domestic law enforcement operations, long considered the exclusive province of civilian police, is a dangerous intrusion into civilian powers by the military. The framers of the Constitution feared the influence of a standing army. Today many fear that military tactics and training are inconsistent with police activities limited by the Bill of Rights and the rulings of the courts. Supporters say military involvement is necessary to counter sophisticated and well-armed drug traffickers. The recent shooting in Texas of a U.S. teenager near his house by a U.S. Marine has put the issue prominently on the public's radar screen (see article in this issue of NewsBriefs). POSSE COMITATUS ACT A statutory bar to the use of the military for domestic police functions dates back to the Posse Comitatus Act (18 USC 1385) passed in 1878 (and subsequently amended): Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. The Posse Comitatus Act was enacted in response to civil liberties abuses committed under the military governors during the post-Civil War Reconstruction of the South. No one has ever been convicted under the Posse Comitatus Act, but there have been occasions when evidence obtained as a result of the Act's violation was ruled inadmissible in criminal court. Also, military personnel who violate the Act may be found personally liable for their actions in civil court (LTC Geoffrey Demarest, "The Overlap of Military and Police in Latin America," United States Army, Foreign Military Studies Office, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, April 1995). REAGAN ADMINISTRATION AND CONGRESS REVISIT POSSE COMITATUS The formal commencement of the role of the U.S. Armed Forces in anti-drug law enforcement began in 1981. Congress considered what that role should be in a number of hearings when the prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act were specifically examined in the context of the anti-drug effort. In December 1981, the Military Cooperation with Civilian Law Enforcement Statute (10 USC 371-380) was enacted, allowing for military "assistance" to civilian law enforcement agencies generally outside the U.S., especially in combating drug smuggling into the U.S. Under this law, the military is generally allowed to give technical and support assistance, including the use of facilities, vessels, aircraft, intelligence, translation and surveillance. The statute specifically prohibits the direct involvement of soldiers in law enforcement, such as search and seizure, arrests or detention, and the use of military personnel in an undercover capacity (10 USC 375). Under Reagan, the military's role grew slowly because of the Pentagon's discomfort with its new mission and modest funding from Congress. Caspar Weinberger, Secretary of Defense, spoke out against military involvement in law enforcement. "Reliance on military forces to accomplish civilian tasks is detrimental to both military readiness and the democratic process," he said. But in 1983 then Vice President Bush's office coordinated the involvement of the Navy and the Air Force in drug interdiction activities in the Caribbean, in the Gulf of Mexico and along the coasts. PRESIDENT BUSH ESCALATES MILITARY INVOLVEMENT In 1989, President Bush named Dr. William Bennett as his "drug czar," and ordered a more vigorous military anti-drug involvement. Congress doubled the Department of Defense's (DOD) anti-drug budget from $200 million in 1988 to $438 million in 1989. During the Bush Administration, amendments to the National Defense Authorization Acts (Public Laws 101-189, 101-510, and 102-190), designated the Pentagon as the lead federal agency for anti-drug intelligence; integrated U.S. command, control, communications, and intelligence (C3I) systems; provided an improved interdiction role for the National Guard; directed the armed forces to conduct training exercises in known drug-trafficking areas in the U.S.; and expanded military authority to assist foreign police and military in anti-drug operations (emphasis added) (David Isenberg, "Militarizing the Drug War," CovertAction, Fall 1992, p. 42). In November 1989, under the direction of Defense Secretary Richard Cheney, Joint Task Force-6 (JTF-6) was established at Fort Bliss in El Paso to coordinate military and law enforcement anti-drug operations along the U.S.-Mexico border. "We serve as the eyes and ears of the Border Patrol," said Maureen Bossch, a
[CTRL] MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE: FOOD FOR THOUGHT BUT NOT FOR EATING
-Caveat Lector- MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE: FOOD FOR THOUGHT BUT NOT FOR EATING http://www.annapolis.net/members/holland/food.txt Over half way down it gives a list of alternative names for MSG Laura AKA The Pied Piper http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm 1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International 5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store. (anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartame VISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs Cases VISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Brazil Interest Rates--35.5%
-Caveat Lector- By Joelle Diderich BRASILIA, (Reuters) - Brazil raised interest rates Wednesday to halt a rapid weakening of its currency, but overseas investors appeared to have momentarily lost interest in the crisis gripping Latin America's biggest economy. Amid growing dollar flight and a renewed slide in its fragile currency, the Central Bank set interest rates at 35.5 percent in money markets, up from 32.5 percent on Tuesday. Economists said the rate increase was aimed at encouraging investors to keep money in the fixed-income market and prevent a further wave of dollar outflows, which totaled a revised $339 million Tuesday. But the move failed to appease nervous foreign exchange markets and the real resumed its slide, closing at a new low of 1.91 to the dollar, down 36.6 percent since the government first relaxed its stiff foreign exchange policy on Jan. 13. Dollar outflows remained high, with a net $400 million seen fleeing local foreign exchange markets Wednesday. ``Honestly, we don't have any sense of direction,'' said a foreign exchange analyst in Rio de Janeiro. ``I'm not making new predictions after my stabilization theory of 1.7 reals to the dollar became outdated quite some time ago.'' The rate hike also stoked fears that Brazil might default on its mountain of domestic debt, with economists pointing out that the Central Bank decision only added to the already astronomic cost of servicing debt. ``We're in a vicious cycle,'' said the Rio analyst. ``The government wants to contain capital flight with higher interest rates, but that just makes it tough for the government, especially when people are still worried whether Brazil can still pay its debts.'' Overseas investors took a calmer view of events, with credit rating agency Standard Poor's saying Brazil was unlikely to restructure its local currency debt as this would inflict too much damage on its banking system. The decision to float the real forced the closure on Wednesday of a small Brazilian investment bank, but analysts said the sector was generally well-prepared for the abrupt devaluation. European markets rose modestly as fears that Brazil might be heading for an economic abyss eased, giving way to a sense of fatigue at the prospect of a drawn-out period of turmoil. ``There are still plenty of trip wires, but it's not a lost cause. It's not a Russia -- it's more like Mexico,'' said Nick Douch, emerging market currency strategist at Barclays Capital in London. He noted it took nine or 10 months for currency markets to settle down after Mexico's 1994 peso crunch. In the United States, the ongoing saga of President Bill Clinton's impeachment trial eclipsed Brazil's woes after the Senate rejected a motion to dismiss the case and agreed to hear witnesses including Monica Lewinsky. Two weeks into its most severe financial crisis in years, Brazil is striving to steady its currency as a first step to bringing back sorely-needed foreign capital and soften a recession expected to drag down the world's eighth-largest economy this year. But the country faces a tough dilemma. While high interest rates stabilize the currency, they aggravate recession fears and increase the nation's mounting 320 billion real ($172 billion) domestic debt, which many analysts think could force an unpopular restructuring later this year. Even with slightly higher rates, Brazil continues to watch dollars leave the country at between $200-550 million per day. More than $8 billion has been pulled out of foreign exchange markets in January alone. Salomon Smith Barney joined the list of banks painting a gloomy picture for Brazil. It revised its forecast for Brazilian gross domestic product to a six percent contraction in 1999, compared with its earlier estimate of a three percent decline. But the government received a small boost to its efforts to implement a sweeping fiscal austerity plan when Congress approved a streamlined version of its 1999 federal budget Wednesday including 8.7 billion reals in spending cuts. U.S. officials, reflecting concerns that the crisis in Brazil could drag down the whole of Latin America and hit U.S. exports, said the country had to continue on a sustained path of economic reform. ``The key is for Brazil to continue on a consistent basis on a sound policy path,'' said Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. White House officials said Clinton would meet with economic advisers soon to discuss the crisis. Officials from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) continued their fact-finding missions in Brazil, paving the way for talks involving higher-level officials on the fate of a $41.5 billion IMF-sponsored international rescue package which Brazil received last year. IMF First Deputy Managing Director Stanley Fischer canceled a planned testimony to a U.S. Senate subcommittee on Wednesday, saying he was too busy dealing with the Brazilian crisis. Last Updated: 01/27/99 18:01 EST http://legalnews.findlaw.com/ Copyright ©
[CTRL] France vs. offshore banking
-Caveat Lector- CRIMINAL LAW [01/27] France seek sanctions on hot money havens PARIS, Jan 27 (Reuters) - French Finance Minister Dominique Strauss-Kahn said on Wednesday he had proposed an international plan against money-laundering including the option of cutting financial links with renegade offshore tax havens. Strauss-Kahn said he had submitted his plan to the Financial Action Task Force, a forum coordinating efforts by 26 countries on money laundering under instructions from a summit of the Group of Seven in 1998. Under this plan, banks and other offshore financial firms would have to report all suspect transactions or face a freeze on their offshore business. ``The final step -- if it proved necessary and we believe it could be avoided -- would be the atomic bomb in the operation,'' he told a news conference. ``Financial relations would simply be severed -- partially or entirely -- between financial institutions of these countries and those based in offshore centres which fail to comply with the transparency recommendations put to them,'' he said. ``These is a step-by-step process that would be followed and we can obviously hope that there would be no need to resort to the ultimate sanction,'' he said. Strauss-Kahn said he had sent the proposals a few weeks ago to the international task force, whose members include most of the 29 countries in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), a grouping of mainly industrialised nations. Agreement on France's plan would mark an significant advance in the regulation of ``offshore centres, which everyone knows are at least in part directly linked to money laundering and financial delinquancy,'' he said. The minister avoided naming names, but the proposals would put pressure on several countries including Britain, with links to offshore centres including the nearby Channel Islands and the more far-flung Cayman Islands, or the Dutch Antilles. He said the Financial Action Task Force had already produced a sort of condu ct code for offshore financial institutions and that the first step would be to ensure these were respected. If pressure to comply failed, the next step would be to make it obligatory for offshore institutions to report all doubtful transactions to an international agency called TRACFIN. This body had received 648 reports of dubious transactions in 1993 and that the number of annual tip-offs had now mounted to around 1,200, which illustrated the scale of the problem. The ultimate sanction of severed financial ties would only kick in where these other steps failed to bear fruit, he said. Strauss-Kahn unveiled the proposals at a news conference with Justice Minister Elizabeth Guigou on France's attempts to combat corruption in business and the laundering of ``hot money'' generated by organised crime. Guigou also presented draft legislation which would allow France to ratify an OECD convention against payment of bribes and commissions to public officials when firms compete for business contracts. The pact signed in 1997 by the 29 members of the Paris-based Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development is due to go into force at the end of this year, as long as a sufficient number ratify in time. Last Updated: 01/27/99 14:43 EST Copyright 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication and redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. http://legalnews.findlaw.com Copyright © 1994-1998 FindLaw Inc. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sidney Blumenthal To Betray Clinton? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL TO BETRAY CLINTON? (CNNS, 01/27/99) -- During the Watergate investigation in the early 1970s, White House aide John Dean played a pivotal role. Dean's testimony regarding his boss, then-President Richard Nixon, was explosive and propelled Nixon from office, in 1974. John Dean fingered Richard Nixon. Sources in Washington, DC have informed Sherman H. Skolnick, chairman of the public interest research group, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts (CCCUC), that Sidney Blumenthal, aide to President Bill Clinton, is likely to play a John Dean-like role when he is called to testify at Clinton's impeachment trial. Motivation for Blumenthal's possible betrayal is unclear at this point. He may just be fed up with how his boss, Bill Clinton, is operating. Or perhaps, in the welter of blackmail and counter-blackmail infesting the U.S. capital, Blumenthal has himself come under irresistable pressure. One of Skolnick's sources is adamant: "Sidney Blumenthal is going to WRECK Bill Clinton." The dirt which Blumenthal reportedly wields, like a sword of Damocles, over Clinton's head, may pertain to specific details on job offers made to Monica Lewinsky, the *femme fatale* of the Clinton presidency. A week before the death of White House deputy counsel Vincent Foster, in July, 1993, a meeting of top-level politicos was held at the Cardozo (Landau) estate, on the eastern shore of Maryland. Blumenthal, says Skolnick, is tight with that clique of elite planners. Blumenthal is also, reportedly, in some way involved with the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, according to Skolnick. Blumenthal, formerly from the north side of Chicago, later became a journalist, based in New York City. From there he was tapped as a high-level aide and advisor to President Bill Clinton. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Teacher fired over I.D card
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/26/99 10:51:04 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TUESDAY JANUARY 26 1999 WND Exclusive Teacher dismissed over ID cards Religious controversy stirred in West Virginia By David M. Bresnahan 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The battle over bar-coded ID cards in a small public high school in Elkins, West Virginia, could be an omen for public schools across the country. snip In an effort to prevent student violence against other students, Elkins High School instituted a new rule for added security. Students and faculty are now required to wear a photo ID with a bar code. It must be visible at all times, as recommended by the federal government. The guy is an absolute fool. If he is upset about bar codes, he had better stop buying grocerys...as thats how most major chains check you out and run you through the register...by passing the grocery item over a bar code reader. Cheers, Robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] No Postings
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/27/99 5:17:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My e-mail this morning had no input from CTRL at all. Can you tell me what the problem is? Prudy Perhaps Hillary Clintons evil, right wing conspiracy was out to deprive you of your "CTRL" messages. :) Cheers, Robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ENVIROS
-Caveat Lector- hi Robert - here are some thoughts on your neologism 'ENVIROS' which I hope that you can evaluate constructively. You have the right to ignore that the World Race is on the Brink of Extinction facts that are available to any person who chooses to look - but in case you need a handle on what more responsible people think of the term 'enviros' - try to fix on the idea that it isn't a Cult of Whakos but a global realisation by ordinary decent taxpayers that there is an OBVIOUS global problem for the future wellbeing of their children for whom they care. By attempting to publicly diminish the catastrophic nature of the problem you are perhaps, 'psychologically' hoping that it may go away by re-inventing the appearance of the problem on screen - making it more easy for you to reject. But dealing with this problem will only happen, in my opinion, by an increased ability of the voter to elect officials who are effective. This awareness can only be achieved by stating the simple facts not disguising them. Trivialising what appears to most of us as rapacious 'Global Genocide' is IMO a bit 'detached from reality' - [eg. potatos, tomatos, wacos, enviros etc] so I don't think much of the term 'Enviros' :) Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Sidney Blumenthal To Betray Clinton?
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 8:05 PM Subject: Sidney Blumenthal To Betray Clinton? SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL TO BETRAY CLINTON? (CNNS, 01/27/99) -- During the Watergate investigation in the early 1970s, White House aide John Dean played a pivotal role. Dean's testimony regarding his boss, then-President Richard Nixon, was explosive and propelled Nixon from office, in 1974. John Dean fingered Richard Nixon. Sources in Washington, DC have informed Sherman H. Skolnick, chairman of the public interest research group, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts (CCCUC), that Sidney Blumenthal, aide to President Bill Clinton, is likely to play a John Dean-like role when he is called to testify at Clinton's impeachment trial. Motivation for Blumenthal's possible betrayal is unclear at this point. He may just be fed up with how his boss, Bill Clinton, is operating. Or perhaps, in the welter of blackmail and counter-blackmail infesting the U.S. capital, Blumenthal has himself come under irresistable pressure. One of Skolnick's sources is adamant: "Sidney Blumenthal is going to WRECK Bill Clinton." The dirt which Blumenthal reportedly wields, like a sword of Damocles, over Clinton's head, may pertain to specific details on job offers made to Monica Lewinsky, the *femme fatale* of the Clinton presidency. A week before the death of White House deputy counsel Vincent Foster, in July, 1993, a meeting of top-level politicos was held at the Cardozo (Landau) estate, on the eastern shore of Maryland. Blumenthal, says Skolnick, is tight with that clique of elite planners. Blumenthal is also, reportedly, in some way involved with the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, according to Skolnick. Blumenthal, formerly from the north side of Chicago, later became a journalist, based in New York City. From there he was tapped as a high-level aide and advisor to President Bill Clinton. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Please Patronize PRJ's Advertisers: http://home.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm Many Pay Even If You Just Look and Don't Buy! Video Finder, Free catalogs, Health Products, Sweepstakes, Etc. *** -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
[CTRL] NBC Accessory to Rape?!
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Michael Rivero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.societ y.liberalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.usa.republican,talk.politics .misc,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.journalism Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 11:38 AM Subject: TIME TO CALL NBC! Congressman Chris Cannon in a live interview at 9:10 a.m. said the following to MSNBC's John Sigenthaler: "Everyone, and I mean everyone in Washington knows you [meaning NBC] are holding on to a videotaped interview Lisa Myers has of Jane Doe #5." What he is referring to is the interview conducted of Jaunita Broaddrick by Lisa Myers, who already covered the rape story on NBC News some time ago. However, bowing to pressure from the White House, NBC management is sitting on the interview and will not allow it to be broadcast. In essence, NBC is now an accessory after-the-tact to the crime reported in that interview. If indeed the story of a forced sexual encounter is true, NBC has shown that it approves of such conduct as long as the "perp" is good for the economy, specifically their economy. NBC News, (as has been shown to also be the case with CBS) is not really a news organization, but a propaganda organ, sweeping up and then burying the information the government does not wish you to have. Their view is that you are all such children you could not stand the trauma of learning that the President is not such a nice man after all. Of course, if you think you are grown up enough to hear what the media, the White House, and apparently even the SSenate did not want you to hear, then FAX or all NBC right now. Demand that the FULL Jaunita Broaddrick interview be aired (stress ""full" or they will think they can edit out the critical portions). You don't have to call long distance. You can call your local affiliate and the message will get through. (Remember how a phone and letter campaign got Star Trek renewed?) phone numbers: New York: 212 664-3700 Washington DC: 202 885-4200 NBC fax numbers: DC 1-202-362-2009 LA 1-818-840-4275 HEATHER ALLAN NY 1-212-956-2140 SF 1-415-441-2823 DAVID BURRINGTON NY 1-212-315-4037 MICHAEL GARTNER, President You can actually fax NBC for free, using TPC's service. For instance for the following fax numbers: IN WASHINGTON DC 1-202-362-2009 IN NEW YORK NY 1-212-956-2140 You need to lay it out thusly: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can then put these addresses into your email address to box, write up an email, and TPC will FAX them for free. -- Mike Claire - The Rancho Runnamukka http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/ Clinton doing cocaine in the White House? http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/cocaine.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Please Patronize PRJ's Advertisers: http://home.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm Many Pay Even If You Just Look and Don't Buy! Video Finder, Free catalogs, Health Products, Sweepstakes, Etc. *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
Re: [CTRL] No Postings
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/27/99 8:43:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My e-mail this morning had no input from CTRL at all. Can you tell me what the problem is? Prudy Perhaps Hillary Clintons evil, right wing conspiracy was out to deprive you of your "CTRL" messages. :) Cheers, Robert That was probably it; in fact I'm sure of it. They left all the ones that want me to click on the whatever it is for "ADULTS ONLY." Definitely the evil, right wing conspiracy. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om