Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Re: signoff
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/25/99 12:53:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 6/25/99 8:26:42 AM, you wrote: I am having trouble signing off list. Please take my name off. Colleen Sorry to see ya go. I hope there are no bad feelings. chris was causing unneeded disruption. He hasn't been kicked off; he cannot mail but still receive. I always enjoy your take on items. Om K Let me reiterate. Hope you'll reconsider and stick around. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Aspartame tests on infants, fetuses
-Caveat Lector- from ToxLine: http://www.medscape.com/misc/FormToxlineInfLive.html Title Effect of aspartame loading on plasma and erythrocyte free amino acid concentrations in one-year-old infants. Author Filer LJ Jr; Baker GL; Stegink LD Source J Nutr; VOL 113, ISS 8, 1983, P1591-9 Secondary Source ID TOXBIB/83/267837; Abstract Aspartame is a new dipeptide sweetener. It has been suggested that infants metabolize its constituent amino acids (aspartate and phenylalanine) less well than adults. To test this hypothesis, 24 1-year-old infants were administered 34, 50 and 100 mg/kg body weight aspartame in cherry-flavored beverage mix. Plasma amino acid concentrations and the areas under the plasma concentration-time curves (AUC) were determined and were compared with values in adults administered equivalent doses. The doses studied include the 99th percentile of projected ingestion for adults (34 mg/kg), a very high use dose (50 mg/kg body weight), and a potentially abusive dose (100 mg/kg body weight). Plasma aspartate concentrations did not change significantly (P greater than 0.05) at aspartame doses of 34 and 50 mg/kg body weight, but did increase significantly at the 100 mg/kg body weight dose. The change over base line was similar in infants and adults. Aspartame dosing significantly increased both the mean peak plasma phenylalanine concentration and the plasma phenylalanine AUC value in proportion to dose. Mean (+/- SD) peak plasma phenylalanine concentrations in infants were 9.37 +/- 1.44, 11.6 +/- 4.44 and 22.3 +/- 11.5 mumol/100 ml at aspartame doses of 34, 50 and 100 mg/kg body weight, respectively. Values in infants were similar to those noted in adults. The data do not support the suggestion that infants metabolize the amino acids of aspartame less well than adults. Title Blood methanol concentrations in one-year-old infants administered graded doses of aspartame. Author Stegink LD; Brummel MC; Filer LJ Jr; Baker GL Source J Nutr; VOL 113, ISS 8, 1983, P1600-6 Secondary Source ID TOXBIB/83/267838; Abstract Blood methanol concentrations were measured in 24 1-year-old infants administered aspartame, a dipeptide methyl ester sweetener. The doses studied included a dose projected to be the 99th percentile of daily ingestion for adults (34 mg/kg body weight), a very high use dose (50 mg/kg body weight) and a dose considered to be in the abuse range (100 mg/kg body weight). Blood methanol values in infants were compared to values observed previously in adults administered equivalent doses of aspartame. Methanol concentrations were below the level of detection (0.35 mg/dl) in the blood of 10 infants administered aspartame at 34 mg/kg body weight, but were significantly elevated (P less than or equal to 0.05) after ingestion of aspartame at 50 and 100 mg/kg body weight. At the latter doses, mean peak blood methanol concentrations and the area under the blood methanol concentration-time curve increased in proportion to dose. Mean (+/- SEM) peak blood methanol concentration was 0.30 +/- 0.10 mg/100 ml at a 50 mg/kg body weight aspartame dose (n = 6) and 1.02 +/- 0.28 mg/ml at the 100 mg/kg body weight dose (n = 8). Blood methanol values in infants were similar to those observed in normal adults. Title Use of aspartame in pregnancy. Author Sturtevant FM Source Int J Fertil; VOL 30, ISS 1, 1985, P85-7 (REF: 20) Secondary Source ID TOXBIB/85/260289; Abstract The low-calorie sweetening agent, aspartame, is broken down in the small intestine into three moieties: aspartic acid, methanol and phenylalanine. Acute loading studies have been performed in human beings who received up to six times the 99th percentile of the projected daily intake (6 X 34 = 200 mg/kg). No evidence of risk to the fetus was developed. Aspartate does not readily cross the placenta. Small elevations of blood methanol following such abuse doses of aspartame did not lead to measurable increases of blood formic acid, which is the product responsible for the acidosis and ocular toxicity in methanol poisoning. Phenylalanine is concentrated on the fetal side of the placenta. Aspartame in abuse doses up to 200 mg/kg in normal subjects, or to 100 mg/kg in PKU heterozygotes, did not raise blood phenylalanine levels to the range generally accepted to be
[CTRL] FWD:VOMIT-Victims of Masonic Ill-Treatment
-Caveat Lector- VOMIT UK 26/99 Victims Of Masonic Ill-Treatment26 June 1999 Anyone criticised or maligned in these publications has a guaranteed right of reply. JMF or P2 Lodge UK stands for the hierarchies of the Judaeo/Masonic Faction. The ordinary Mason and Jew are as likely to suffer from the machinations of the JMF as non-Masons and non-Jews are. AMERICA'S WAR ON CRIME There follows a report picked up by Al Baron (email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ### In this nation's war on crime, something has gone terribly wrong. A two-year investigation by the Post-Gazette found that powerful new federal laws designed to snare terrorists, drug smugglers and pornographers are being aimed at business owners, engineers and petty criminals. Whether suspects are guilty has come to matter less than making sure they are indicted or convicted or, more likely, coerced into pleading guilty. Promises of lenient sentences and huge government cheques encourage criminals to lie in the witness stand. Prosecutors routinely withhold evidence that might help prove a defendant innocent. Some federal agents work so closely with their undercover informants that they themselves become lawbreakers. Those who practice this misconduct are almost never penalised or disciplined. "It's a result-oriented process today, fairness be damned," said Robert Merkle, whom President Ronald Reagan appointed U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Florida, serving from 1982 to 1988. "The philosophy of the past 10 to 15 years is that whatever works is what's right." The Justice Department did not respond to questions the newspaper posed in writing about concerns raised in this series. Nor would it return phone calls requesting comment. ### Comment: We publish the above report in an effort to convince members of the public in the UK that our criminal justice system is even worse than that of the USA.The police frame thousands of litigants involved in civil proceedings in order to render the victims incapable of successfully pursuing litigation.A network of people in authority targets any UK citizen, male or female, who possesses wealth in the form of money, a successful business or property.Banks, building societies, the Registrar of Companies, the Inland Revenue, Ordnance Survey, Customs and Excise and the Land Registries set up the targets and collaborate to swindle the unwary. Bankruptcies are the order of the day.The Department of Trade and Industry condones criminality via the office of the Official Receiver. The Department of the Environment Transport and the Regions condones the corruption of local authorities. Ombudsmen divert complainers and protect corrupt authorities. Few citizens will accept the truth of the foregoing statements.Not long ago people felt that Freemasonry was a gentleman's club dedicated to doing good deeds.We could never see the point in telling lies. One little lie destroys a thousand truths. LLOYDS BANK PLC SWINDLE B A GOUGH We publish the following letter in the public interest because our law enforcement agencies have ignored this major crime for around 30 years and will do so again.At the same time we assure Sir Brian Pitman that we will publish his reply to the serious allegations made against him.For our part, having conducted enquiries into the scandal more than 10 years ago, we believe Mr Gough's version of events in spite of the astronomical sums involved. There is no love lost between Mr Gough and us but, unlike our Prime Minister, we believe that we should strive to make fair that which is unfair. Letter dated 10 June 1999 to Sir Brian Pitman, Chairman of Lloyds Bank Plc, 71 Lombard Street, LONDON EC3 from B A Gough, Chairman, B.A.Gough Equipment Limited, Mechanical Handling Engineers, 72 Shepherds Hill, DROITWICH, Worcestershire WR9 9DG. Tel: 01905 776439 ### Dear Sir The Theft Acts 1968 and 1978 Further to the £2.4 billion fraud against this Company by directors of Lloyds Bank and Slater Walker Securities, now named Invesco Plc we are advised by the Home Office that this is a matter for the Police and Crown Prosecution Service. Accordingly we have prepared a Schedule of Events in the fraud and enclose a copy for your comments please. You will see from this 55 page document that your part in the fraud goes back to January 1982 when you were appointed a director to, in your own words, save the Bank from the consequences of its own excesses. The fraud arises from the £97 billion world sales of an automatic warehouse system patented by Gough Equipment and the non- payment of £2.4 billion contractual royalties to this company. Numerous articles concerning this fraud have been published but neither Lloyds Bank nor its army of solicitors have complained about or challenged any of these publications. Records show that Lloyds Bank and its directors profited in the fraud against
[CTRL] FWD:N.Y.TImes- Gore Criticizes Clinton's Conduct,POTUS Pissed.
-Caveat Lector- Aides See a New Rift as Gore Criticizes Clinton's Conduct By JOHN M. BRODER and DON VAN NATTA Jr. ASHINGTON -- President Clinton is angered and hurt by Vice President Gore's conspicuous efforts to distance himself from Clinton's behavior in the Monica Lewinsky scandal, according to presidential aides and advisers. They say the vice president's words have created a friction that never before existed between the two men. -- -- Reports of public support masking private anger. -- -- "This is the most tense their relationship has ever been," one close Clinton adviser said this week. "The president is very upset," this adviser said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "To the people who he is very close to, he is expressing how hurt he is and his dismay at the vice president. It is not a passing thing. He is very upset." The president considers Gore's repeated condemnations of Clinton's actions and false statements arising from his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky to be acts of ingratitude bordering on disloyalty, several of the president's advisers said in interviews over the past several days. Gore called the president's behavior "inexcusable" three times in a television interview that aired last week on the day he announced his campaign for the presidency. He said Clinton had compromised the dignity of the presidency by his actions and that, "particularly as a father," he felt Clinton's relationship with Ms. Lewinsky was "terribly wrong." And Gore, using convoluted language whose meaning was eminently clear, said that Clinton had lied to him. The interviewer, Diane Sawyer of ABC, prodded Gore with repeated questions about the president. But Gore never cut her off by saying he had already answered the questions, a point raised by two Clinton aides who were critical of the vice president's performance. Publicly, the president has said he "took no offense" at Gore's remarks and that he has said far worse things about himself. But in private, the president was described by aides as "livid" and disappointed by the vice president's comments, while at the same time aware that Gore must deal with questions about the Lewinsky affair and establish an identity separate from the president's to run a credible campaign for the White House. After nearly seven years of an extraordinarily warm and close working relationship with the vice president, Clinton is painfully coming to grips with the fact that Gore must emerge as his own man. The president's feelings are compounded by the prospect of his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, setting up housekeeping in New York and running for office in her own right. Adding to Clinton's anger was what aides perceived to be "gloating" by members of the Gore team at the success of their efforts to distance the vice president from the president's personal misbehavior. "I know Gore's people are calling people saying we've got separation from Clinton," a member of the president's inner circle said. "And they are sort of bragging about it." The motives for Clinton's aides and advisers to talk about the president's feelings toward Gore were not entirely clear. They may have been trying to help the vice president establish distance from the president by portraying Clinton as angry. They may have been trying to demonstrate their closeness to the president. Or they may simply have been honestly reporting how Clinton and his inner circle have reacted to Gore's statements. Gore's advisers acknowledged that the vice president has tried to put space between him and Clinton on matters of personal morality, which has become a rhetorical centerpiece of his emerging campaign. They are happy that the vice president got a prominent platform for his disavowal of the president's conduct. And, privately, they admit that there is an element of payback for what they see as the president's meddling and second-guessing about the progress of Gore's campaign. Last month, Clinton told The New York Times that he believed Gore's campaign was off to a stumbling start and said he had advised his understudy to loosen up on the campaign trail. The second-guessing has continued, with the president's aides questioning Gore's decision to announce a forward-looking campaign for the presidency on the same day that he gave an interview to Ms. Sawyer criticizing the president past actions. "We don't mind the vice president saying what the president did was inexcusable," said James Carville, a political consultant and adviser to the president. "But we're glad the vice president is starting to talk about the many good things the president did, rather than the one bad thing." Joe Lockhart, the president's press secretary, said that he and Clinton had discussed Gore's announcement, a carefully staged event in the vice president's hometown of
[CTRL] Sex-Crazed Christians
-Caveat Lector- SEX-CRAZED CHRISTIANS The Christian religion has long been characterized by and noted for it's strait-laced sexual mores. Strongly influenced by the likes of such anti-sex moral ascetics as Paul, Jerome and Augustine, among others, sexual activity has long been condemned by mainstream Christianity as a sure route to hell, except when practiced by married couples and only for the purpose of bearing children. Unbeknownst to a great number of people is the fact that there has been an undercurrent of sexual license running through Christianity since it's very beginning. Various sects of the Christian religion have always been around which teach that getting it on for God is one of the ways to heaven. While some of these strange variations of Christian belief have merely followed the examples given them by the Hebrew patriarchs (multiple wives, concubines, humping their wives' handmaidens, their own daughters, etc.), others have been out-and-out orgy clubs where God was praised while they trysted the night away. These kinds of behavior have been present since the very beginning of Christianity. Some of the first Christians were different types of pagans who simply incorporated aspects of Christian belief into their existing religious practices, which occasionally included orgiastic fertility rites and other fun stuff, which no doubt made their church services a good deal more amusing than simply sitting for hours listening to boring preaching about the evils of sex, as is the norm. Many of the so-called Gnostic sects were accused of, and sometimes guilty of, perpetuating pre-Christian sexual practices in their observances, but in fairness it must be noted that other Gnostic groups were even more stringently anti-sex than mainstrean Christianity, believing that each new baby born was another soul trapped in hell on earth. The writings of St. Paul display a distinct slant in this direction, indicating that this type of belief had strongly insinuated itself into mainstream primitive Christianity. Of course, the patriarchal boning of any female living under the Grand Old Man's roof was standard Old Testament behavior, and Lot even got away with getting drunk and dorking his own daughters, with God's smiling approval. Jacob did the deed with his wife's handmaiden, who was at least Rachel's half-sister, since Laban is said to be their father. Add Leah and Jacob was madly copulating with three sisters. You think they might have had three different mothers? Even well into the Age of the Great Bishops (approx. 100-400 AD, after which came the Papal Age), there were "Christian" subcults whose ideas about honoring God were certainly not what we think of as ascetic. One of these was the Carpocratians, founded by Carpocrates. It seems that Carpo had gotten ahold of a suppressed version of the Gospel of Mark, which contains an account not found in the modern version of a strange encounter Jesus had with a rich youth. Bishop Clement of Alexandria, in a well-known letter to another bishop who had complained about the Carpocratians, stated that (a) the suppressed Gospel of Mark was genuine, in his opinion; (b) that the suppressed version must always remain so; and (c) the Carpocratians did exist and were accused of sexual promiscuity by both Clement and his correspondent, a "carnality" which they justified by the suppressed Gospel. Then there are, of course, the many tales of monks and nuns meeting via secret tunnels, and so forth, but while these stories are often strongly supported and believed, they do not really represent the subject of the current essay, which is about Christians who openly gang-bang for Jesus a part of their belief system. That Christian sex-cults existed all through the history of this multi-permutated faith is demonstrated by the existence of the Adamites. This late-Medieval cult was composed almost exclusively of the upper classes, who were wont to stroll through forest and glade butt-naked and do the wild thing in the grass. The noted painter Hieronymus Bosch was suspected to be member of the Adamites, and theses have been written about the supposed Adamitic symbolism found in his paintings.* On the other hand, I have also read that he was a secret Cathar, a Gnostic cult which had recently been bloodily suppressed by the Catholic church. An article in a recent Smithsonian Magazine repudiated Bosch's Adamitism. Whether Bosch was member or not, the cult certainly existed. They are said to have been rather disliked by the relatively more uptight peasantry, who were occasionally unnerved by finding Adamite aristocrats wandering around in their fields. In the late sixteenth century, we find the clergy of England sternly denouncing various deviant Christian sects, which had been spawned in part by the newly widely available English-language Bibles. "The Family of Love" is one such cult
Re: [CTRL] Aspartame tests on infants, fetuses
-Caveat Lector- What monster drug company, hospital, researcher or "doctor" would do this? Where are people's minds, morals and common sense? This is utterly and unspeakably heinous, it is a level BEYOND partial birth abortions. Those infants have a right to sue later when they are sick and disabled. Pitiful, just pitiful. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990626a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No clerical underlings went postal during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Preying Mantis Entity Reports. This is an informal collection of tales regarding the strangest of possibilities - encounters with praying-mantis- like entities which occur after ingesting enteogenic compounds. Why is this so common? Nobody seems to mention spiders or grasshoppers, always mantids! There is not enough information here to draw any conclusions, but there is enough to demonstrate something weird and heavy is going on in the human mind. http://diseyes.lycaeum.org/fresh/mantis.htm : Have you ever encountered gigantic mantids, arachnids, hoppers? Were they scarey? Did they talk funny? Did your mind-control rays work on them? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Try this non-wash, no-iron cyberfuture for size. LONDON (Reuters) Please step forward into the future for a moment... an android shop assistant is asking why you want blue trousers when its database says you prefer gray. Your sleeve communicator beeps - it's your genetically engineered boss at the spaceship plant - and you just remembered you forgot to order milk on the shopping net before leaving home this morning. Some things will never change, but quite a lot will in the next 1,000 years, says a far-reaching report: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560065608-dda : Could anyone 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 years ago have had any idea of what the world is like now? Do you have any idea how things will change in the next 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 years? How can you tell? D'ya read tea-leaves? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CASSINI PICKS UP SPEED AROUND VENUS AGAIN. NASA's Cassini spacecraft comp- leted its 2nd pass by Venus to pick up momentum and speeded ahead Friday on its 618th day of its seven-year flight to Saturn. Cassini flew within 600 km (370 miles) of the planet at 4:30 p.m. EST on Thursday, with Venus' gravity giving the spacecraft a speed boost to help it reach Saturn, more than 1 billion km. (620 million miles) away. Cassini will "slingshot" to Saturn: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9906/25/cassini.update/index.html : Will Cassini crash into Earth, spreading toxic plutonium worldwide and ob- literating life as we know it? Do you look forward to this? Do you care??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Keep Lenin's remains on show. MOSCOW (AP) The niece of Soviet founder Vla- dimir Lenin said the mummified remains of her famous uncle should be left on display in Red Square and not buried, as many Russians demand. Lenin had insisted that his body not be put on display. But shortly after his death, Soviet leaders turned the Bolshevik founder into a communist icon and put his body on display, to remain as a revolutionary symbol for all eternity. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560043881-692 : Does your belief system worship its founders' relics? Are relics magickal? What happened to Lenin's alien implants when he was mummified? Who has them? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Alcohol benefits debunked. (BBC) Moderate alcohol consumption has no positive effect on health - contrary to a number of studies - while heavy drinking can double the risk of stroke, research has found. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_377000/377381.stm # Coffee may stimulate epilepsy in newborns. (BBC) Pregnant women who drink too much coffee may increase the risk of their babies developing epilepsy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_377000/377933.stm # Cola's knockout formula. (BBC) A rare disorder can cause people to faint when they have a cold fizzy drink. Pepsi as a date-rape drug? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_377000/377468.stm : What's your favorite legal drug? Do you care what it does to your body? Do the voices in your head tell you to take it? Does it mess with your implant? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Group seeks India's report on death. NEW DELHI (AP) - A Christian group demanded the government release a report about the January killings of an Australian missionary and his sons who were burned to death while sleeping in their jeep. The report by a commission investigating the deaths should be made public "so that the conspiracy behind the murders is unearthed," the New Delhi-based United Christian Forum for Human Rights said. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560044539-ee8 : Do missionaries promote cultural genocide? Are they fair targets? Does your belief system proselytize? Should proselytizers be executed? By whom? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Prelate cites Cuba church progress despite gov't crackdowns: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560063909-d6f #
[CTRL] Icelanders Warm Up to DNA Database
-Caveat Lector- Automatic ID News May 1999 -- Vol. 15 No. 5 A country-wide DNA database being proposed in Iceland is heating up the worldwide debate over whether such projects create privacy risks rising to the level of a "Big Brother" government seeking to keep inappropriate files on its population. After nine months of debate, Iceland's parliament has approved a voluntary DNA data collection endeavor to be conducted by a $200 million partnership of the Hoffman-La Roche pharmaceutical firm and the Reykjavik-based deCode Genetics -- a genomics company that researches the connection between genes and illnesses. THe plan is to use Icelanders' DNA characteristics to study -- and perhaps cure -- 12 genetically identifiable ailments. These include four cardiovascular diseases, four psychiatric/neurologic conditions and four metabolic illnesses. deCode has been granted a 12-year monopoly on data marketing rights, and any drugs invented in the process are to be provided free to the island's residents. "The basic idea is to take advantage of a unique combination of qualities that the Icelandic population has and use it to shed light on certain aspects of effective treatments for the future," says Jonathan Knowles, president of La Roche's worldwide research division. "A critical component of this collaboration is the focus on a (specific) population," he explains. "This focus allows us to apply one and the same initiative in genetics in the development of diagnostics, therapeutics and pharmacogenomics." Iceland is unique in that its mainly blond-haired and blue-eyed population of 275,000 people is genetically homogeneous. It was settled about 1,100 years ago by a small group coming from Norway, and the inhabitants remained isolated until World War II. A court fight looms over the privacy issues involved with the DNA database. Many residents welcome the economic and medical benefits that may come about, while others object to the prospect of over-intrusion. deCode says the people have nothing to fear. "We have had unencrypted and highly insecurehealth records in all our healthcare institutions for more than 80 years now, without anyone complaining, without anyone attempting to make indecent use of them," says deCode's Arni Sigurjonsson. "But of course, an effort is now underway to make the records safer, and the planned database project will increase the data security considerably." Sigurjonsson points out that he's been hearing that "some politicians may worry about personal data leaking out about them, harming them in a campaign, but this is not a convincing argument in such a small population where most people know so much about one another anyway." He notes, "No health data has ever been known to harm a politician in this country, [although] an attempt was made in 1930 when some doctors wrote in the newspapers that a controversial minister was insane." There are numerous safeguards in place to protect the population's privacy, Sigurjonsson asserts, stressing that disease data will come from cooperating doctors. "Before we receive these samples, the social security numbers on them are encrypted under supervision of a government institute for data security (the Data Security Commission), so our staff is never able to identify the donors; we neither get the names nor the social security numbers." Participation is voluntary, and people can decline to be tested. An anonymousnational healthcare database being implemented provides additional protection. "This information processing will meet much higher security standards, and the data will be encrypted in three places: first at the original source (e.g., a hospital), then by the Data Security Commission, and finally by deCode Genetics. The encryption keys will be stored in a safe place, and not where the data is stored," says Sigurjonsson. It will not be possible for the government or any other entity to track down people suffering from specific illnesses, he says. "This will be prevented by programming the so-called query-layer in such a manner that you can never look up information about less than 10, or perhaps 20, individuals. Also, a mechanism will be installed to prevent repeated queries that could result in 'zeroing in' on a given individual. Even if a query could return information about an individual -- which it could not -- the personal ID (the social security number) would be encrypted thoroughly and thus unreadable." Sigurjonsson stresses, "deCode will not be selling information about individuals. I strongkly doubt that there would be any market for such information, even if it was available. In this population of 275,000 people, you can get a lot of information about people without paying at all. As for people being denied a job because of genetic makeup, this is not likely, but sooner or later, the legislature may prohibit this." The targeting of potential illness victims for the purpose of denying health insurance is not
[CTRL] Lloyd's Bank Slater Walker Securities--Masonic Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- With reference to the following posting by William Shannon, keep in mind that Jonathan Aitken was the son of Max Aitken (Lord Beaverbrook). Max's daughter married Ian Douglas Campbell, who was the son of Douglas Walter Campbell and his wife Aimee Lawrence, an American, from New York. Ian became the 11th Duke of Argyll following the death of his father's cousin, Niall Diarmid Campbell in 1942. Niall had succeeded his uncle, John Douglas Sutherland Campbell (the 9th Duke of Argyll), upon his death in 1914. The 9th Duke was a contemporary of Max Aitken and had been Governor of Canada at the time Max (the son of a Scottish, Presbyterian minister) was amassing his wealth through insurance companies which issued junk bonds to invest in new ventures (basically patent stealing and exploitation of land and resources in frontier Canada). The 9th Duke was married to Queen Victoria's daughter, and was the brother-in-law to King Edward VII (Bertie). Interesting that George Bush's grandfather, a Walker, was also called Bertie, and was engaged in the same type of activity at the same time in St. Louis, Mo. Coincidence? Just look at Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin's book about Bush to see who financed their activities. It's also fascinating to look at the history of Dresser Industries, which was heavily into patent stealing in its early days. The same could also be said for other oil-related industries, such as Hughes Tool and Cameron Iron Works. This is nothing new, but the people involved in the stealing were all Masons, and virtually all of Scottish descent. Linda Minor From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on June 26, 1999 6:23 AM Re: [CTRL] FWD:VOMIT-Victims of Masonic Ill-Treatment Letter dated 10 June 1999 to Sir Brian Pitman, Chairman of Lloyds Bank Plc, 71 Lombard Street, LONDON EC3 from B A Gough, Chairman, B.A.Gough Equipment Limited, Mechanical Handling Engineers, 72 Shepherds Hill, DROITWICH, Worcestershire WR9 9DG. Tel: 01905 776439 ### Dear Sir The Theft Acts 1968 and 1978 Further to the £2.4 billion fraud against this Company by directors of Lloyds Bank and Slater Walker Securities, now named Invesco Plc we are advised by the Home Office that this is a matter for the Police and Crown Prosecution Service. Accordingly we have prepared a Schedule of Events in the fraud and enclose a copy for your comments please. You will see from this 55 page document that your part in the fraud goes back to January 1982 when you were appointed a director to, in your own words, save the Bank from the consequences of its own excesses. The fraud arises from the £97 billion world sales of an automatic warehouse system patented by Gough Equipment and the non- payment of £2.4 billion contractual royalties to this company. Numerous articles concerning this fraud have been published but neither Lloyds Bank nor its army of solicitors have complained about or challenged any of these publications. Records show that Lloyds Bank and its directors profited in the fraud against this company by £500 million through their shares in Slater Walker and by a further £5 billion from financing the many automatic warehouses world-wide. It is evident from the enclosed schedule that in order to conceal this unprecedented fraud the Bank's directors and solicitors have wrongly influenced High Court judges by misusing the depositors funds and through the Masonic network. Yours faithfully, B A Gough, Chairman, B A Gough Equipment Limited. ### Comment:Jonathan Aitken was alleged to be a solicitor with Slater Walker at the material time.We were able to trick J Freeman Co, Solicitors, 9 Cavendish Square. London W1M 9DD into authenticating the following extract from a letter addressed to P. Fatharly, Slater Walker Industrial Group Limited, 30 St Paul's Churchyard, London EC4 concerning Chapman Constructors (Birmingham) Ltd. And Others -v- B. A. Gough. It speaks for itself.Asemaster was the name given to the equipment invented by Mr Gough. "As Mr Gough is not prepared to settle this action there is no alternative but to keep it going; albeit with the least possible haste. He has offered to provide, at the Plaintiff's expense, which accords with the Rules, copiers of the 3,000 odd documents in support of his case. Although this could result in a copying fee of £200, it is an element of cost which is unavoidable but probably worth-while if it can deter him from being active in other directions pending the attempts that are being made to get the Asemaster deal through". Speaking from memory we recall that the parasitic Masons recognised the value of Mr Gough's invention and decided to steal his royalties. To do so they contrived to have his company declared insolvent when the royalties due to Mr Gough far exceeded the debts of his company.The insolvency practitioner in the time honoured fashion, knowing that B A Gough
Re: [CTRL] FWD:The Nation-Capitol Crimes
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/25/1999 2:07:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If only Columbine High School had posted the Ten Commandments next to its football trophies, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold would never have killed anyone. This Charlton Heston logic--Moses meets NRA--was articulated by GOP Congressman Bob Barr, leader of the House gun-lobby mercenaries who in mid-June not only defeated background checks for gun-show weapons purchasers but passed the most vindictive youthful-offender bill ever and threw in the Ten Commandments for good measure. Well I guess we know how truly stupid our Congress has become, don't we? As for the Ten Commandments. Let's just look at them for what they really are--a code of law. Now if we ever get around to really respecting law, and if we ever get around to having true justice, it may just work. If law and justice had not become the jokes that our society has made of them, the boys at Columbine might never have become so bitter and disilllusioned. Amazingly, children and young people are not stupid, and they judge society not by what it says, but by what it does. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. Instead, what they said, in the bill, is that your DNA is a "Privacy" issue. The reason for doing this was so that pharmaceutical companies could TAKE your DNA - via various methods - SO LONG AS they swore to NOT disclose who the person was from whom the DNA came from. The CATCH is, that once taken, that DNA became the property of the research facility or lab that possessed it. Quite interesting isn't it? They don't want your own DNA to be "called" YOURS, but on the flip side of it, they DO want the DNA, once taken from a person's body to become the property of the person or company in who's possession that DNA is in. Additionally, I did a little research. One of the groups supposedly supporting this DNA bill was an organization which calls itself PhRMA. So, I dug into who was associated with PhRMA. As I discovered, PhRMA was composed of quite literally over a 100 pharmaceutical companiesas well as companies NOT related to the pharmaceutical industry If you are interested in which companies are involved in PhRMA, then go to my website at http://home1.gte.net/leslemke and click on the graphic which shows a DNA strand drawingit's big and red in color and says YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY SO SAYS THE OREGON SENATE When the next page comes up look for this link: YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY ACCORDING -- TO THE OREGON SENATE ( Oregon Senate Chamber Meeting of May 28, 1999 9:53 AM ) Read Senate Bill 937 for yourself and read where the main sponsor of Senate Bill 937, Senator Neil Bryant, says that *YOUR* *DNA* is *NOT* your own property. Listen to Senate members defend their SELL OUT of your intrinsic RIGHTS to the Pharmaceutical and Bio-Tech corporations as well as to Oregon State Research Institute which plans to make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS through the research of DNA. -- After you get to THAT page you'll see a link that will say this: Pharmaceutical Research Manufacturers of America *** Click on that link to see over 100 companies that have an interest in that legislation that just passed the Oregon Senate. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 6/26/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - NATO to Bomb Africa Next? Citing Threats, US Closes African Embassies Why doesn't the world love our bombs and missiles? WASHINGTON - The United States has ordered the temporary closing of six embassies in Africa based on ''concrete information'' suggesting that terrorist attacks may be in the works, the State Department said Friday. The embassies in Gambia, Togo, Madagascar, Liberia, Namibia and Senegal were closed Thursday and will remain shuttered through Sunday. The State Department spokesman, James Rubin, said Friday that a decision would be made over the weekend on whether they would be reopened Monday. On Friday, Britain also closed diplomatic missions because of threats to security, in four African countries. A Foreign Office spokesman in London said: ''We have information of a possible threat to diplomatic missions in Gambia, Madagascar, Namibia and Senegal. We are taking this threat seriously and have taken the precautionary measure of temporarily closing our missions in these countries.'' Mr. Rubin said U.S. embassies in Africa and the rest of the world had been placed on a heightened state of alert because of increased security concerns. ''We had information suggesting suspicious individuals were surveying the sites, and as a precautionary, prudent measure we suspended operations,'' he said. Mr. Rubin did not cite any specific threats or militant organizations. But he added: ''We have seen a pattern of activity indicating continued planning for terrorist attacks by members of Osama bin Laden's network. And we take reporting of such threats seriously.'' The British Foreign Office spokesman declined to elaborate on the threat or where it came from, but said no diplomatic staff were being evacuated. ''The possible threat is to diplomatic missions, not to British nationals,'' he said. The spokesman declined to say whether the British decision to close its missions was linked to the American move, or to any threat from Mr. bin Laden. He said he did not know how long the closures would last. U.S. embassies have been closed before in response to terrorist threats or concerns they might be targeted. But Mr. Rubin said terrorists were not intimidating the United States or having an impact on U.S. foreign policy. ''We have foiled their objective of stopping our determination to have an American presence around the world and to interfere with our determination as a global power to have American troop presence in various countries,'' he said. ''So, they have failed.'' But, he said, ''that doesn't mean we don't have to adjust our practices, that we don't have to spend more money to protect our people, and we are determined to do that.'' Mr. Rubin, speaking on the ABC television program ''Good Morning America,'' said the United States was putting pressure on a number of governments to capture Mr. bin Laden, believed to be the mastermind of a bomb attack on the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi that killed 213 people and wounded more than 5,000. An almost simultaneous attack killed 11 Tanzanians and injured more than 70 people outside the U.S. Embassy in Dar es Salaam. Mr. bin Laden has been placed on the FBI's list of 10 most-wanted fugitives. He is believed to be in Afghanistan. Last week, U.S. intelligence officials said Mr. bin Laden was believed to be in the final stages of planning another attack on U.S. facilities. ''We think that Osama bin Laden is responsible for the deaths of Americans and he will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide,'' Mr. Rubin said Friday. ''We're determined to find those responsible for killing Americans no matter how long it takes.'' ABC reported that in Mozambique people inside a parked car were seen in May videotaping the U.S. embassy in Maputo, but they fled when police approached them. The State Department noted that U.S. embassies worldwide had been on a heightened alert status because of increased security concerns. At installations around Africa, guard duties have been doubled and given bomb detectors since the bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, and concrete crash barriers have been installed on nearby streets . In the Senegalese capital, Dakar, gendarmes cordoned off three streets around the closed U.S. Embassy. Although the embassy in Abidjan, Ivory Coast's commercial capital, remained open Friday, U.S. Marine guards and security men swept electronic detectors across the engines of vehicles entering the embassy. Most U.S. embassies in sub-Saharan Africa were ordered closed for two days in December, after U.S. action in Iraq. The U.S. Embassy in Uganda has also closed on a few occasions because of security concerns. International Herald Tribune, June 26, 1999 Reproduction Professor Sperm Bank Opens in China Publish or perish BEIJING, Jun 25, 1999 -- (Agence France Presse) A sperm bank which only accepts donors with
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990626b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No habitual sex-criminals were rehabilitated to produce this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sorcerer Intervenes In Presidential Bid. LA PLATA, Argentina (Reuters) An Argentine sorcerer has cast a spell to lift a long-standing curse on the governors of Buenos Aires which, legend has it, stops them from becoming president of Argentina. The magic aims to help governor Eduardo Duhalde win the presidency. Hundreds of Duhalde's Peronist partisans from the pro- vincial capital La Plata gathered around a bonfire after midnight to watch self-styled "Peronist psychomentalist" Manuel Salazar exorcise the curse. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990625/07/odd-curse : Should sorcerers interfere in politics? Should politicians interfere with sorcery? Is your political system cursed? Are your politicians demonic? Who? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China: Superstition May "Endanger Realm". BEIJING (Reuters) Superstition is popular among Chinese communists and may "endanger the realm" unless science takes over, the Communist Party newspaper said on Wednesday. "The major reason behind the rampant superstitious activities in many areas is quite a lot of Party members are hankering after it." China's atheist Communist Party regards unorthodox religion, fortune telling, astrology, cults, blind worship and beliefs that are not justified by science as superstitious activities. http://www.insidechina.com/news.php3?id=75013 # Marxism Must Replace Cultism: http://insidechina.com/news.php3?id=74363 : Is faith in communism more|less dangerous than faith in fortune telling, astrology, religion, UFOs/ETs, crop circles, conspiracies, psientology, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Compulsory games for students. (BBC) A university is offering a degree course in computer games to satisfy the demands of an expanding market. The computer dept is taking down notices saying it is forbidden to play games - and replacing them with signs saying that it will be compulsory. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/education/newsid_377000/377341.stm @ Link: Teesside University: http://www.tees.ac.uk/ @ Games don't kill people - do they? Both bad and good in blowing up pixels. http://www.salonmagazine.com/tech/feature/1999/06/21/game_violence/ : What games should be compulsory for Chinese communists, fundamentalists, economists, psychotherapists, aliens? Is life a game? Is life compulsory? Should you get ROTC credit for designing wargames? Is gaming virtual murder? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BEWARE OF 'MIRACLE CURES' THAT 'DETOXIFY AND ENERGIZE'. The National Coun- cil for Reliable Health Information tells how to spot fraudulent claims made for health products. Some words to watch for: "magical," "miracle," and "secret cure," to name just a few. And nothing "burns" or "melts" fat: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13605 # HERBAL VIAGRA CLONES A 'NATURAL' WASTE OF MONEY. There are many herbal, "natural" Viagra clones on the market now. Don't be fooled by the adver- tising: http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13610 # VIAGRA MAY BE HELPFUL FOR WOMEN, TOO. The latest study of women and Viagra says that maybe it does have some benefit for women's sexual satisfaction. http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13611 : What's your favorite miracle cure? Have you been detoxified, energized or sexualized by herbs lately? Has your fat melted away? From between y'r ears? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Roswell Ready for UFO Invasion - Varied lineup of events planned for out- of-this-world festival. Like the story of the Roswell Incident, the festi- val commemorating the event continues to evolve and change. While the pur- ported crash of 1947 is still the organizing principle behind the event, this year's festivities will include a much more varied range of events, some only marginally related to UFO lore, like concerts and puppet shows. ROSWELL, THE MUSICAL: http://www.abqjournal.com/venue/family/1fam06-25.htm : Is the Roswell UFO Encounter festival a cover for CIA mind-control experi- ments? Will the attendees all be abducted and implanted? Are you going? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ SPECIAL REPORT: A CURE FOR CANCER? Our best hope for curing the disease: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13566 # SURFING NET FOR HEALTH INFO? START WITH A DOSE OF SKEPTICISM: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=13604 @ Aspartame tests on infants, fetuses: http://www.medscape.com/misc/FormToxlineInfLive.html # If the Sun is exceptional, alien life may be hard to find: http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/ns-its062399.html # Investigation Finds Design
[CTRL] Fw: A Declaration of Independence 1999
-Caveat Lector- A Declaration of Independence 1999 PHOENIX, June 26 - It is that time of the year again - the American Independence Day No. 223. Or is it? Are we still an independent nation as declared and conceived by our Founding Fathers 223 years ago? Perhaps it is time once again for us take a good look at ourselves on this Fourth of July and ask: Do the principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence of 1776 still apply today? And if not, how might an American Declaration of Independence 1999 read? To help you in this difficult deliberation, we submit the following draft: "In virtual CONGRESS on the Internet, July 4, 1999 When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them to their leaders disloyal to the common good of the nation, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to renounce their unlawful Government. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience has shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these United States of America; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present President, William Jefferson Clinton, is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny of the New World Order globalist elite over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good, such as the people's Constitutional right to bear arms. He has pressured Congress to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, such as the "fast track" legislation in 1997, which are contrary to the interests of the American people, and only benefit the New World Order globalist elite. He has misused the public funds set aside to defend the American Dollar to bail out his New World Order globalist elite backer's failed investments in corrupt foreign states (e.g., Mexico). He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the American public, such as in Washington, DC, for the sole purpose of fatiguing the people into compliance with his measures. He has threatened to dismiss Representatives repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people, such as the gun control legislation. He has endeavored to change the demographic population of these States by opening the floodgates to alien immigration, legal or illegal, from all corners of the Earth but the traditional source of American immigrants - Europe. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by having his Attorney General refuse her Assent to Special Counsels establishing Judiciary powers to control the illegal fund-raising activities of his party and of his closest associates. He has disgraced the highest office in the land; lied under oath; and obstructed the Administration of Justice. He and his New World Order globalist backers have then intimidated a sufficient number of Senators to prevent him from being impeached. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, such as Judge Paul Friedman, whom he appointed in 1994, and who supported him against 26 legally duly House Representatives claims against his illegal, undeclared and unconstitutional war on a country which has done us no harm. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. He
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Execution of two Indian men in Nebraska
-Caveat Lector- We certainly need to stop things like this in our own country before we take on the "sins" of others. This is a terrible situation. Where are the civil rights people for the American Native? Aren't these the dreaded "hate crimes" as much as any? Where is that "compassionate" media in reporting this? Too many questions, no answers. AKE - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:23 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Execution of two Indian men in Nebraska Bet he never serves a day. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Doping Kids
-Caveat Lector- Doping Kids By Kelly Patricia O'Meara Insight Magazine http://www.insightmag.com/ 6-22-99 Just three weeks after Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold went on their April 20 killing spree at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., President Clinton hosted a White House conference on youth violence. The president declared it a strategy session to seek "the best ideas from people who can really make a difference: parents and young people, teachers and religious leaders, law enforcement, gun manufacturers, representatives of the entertainment industry and those of us here in government." There was, however, complete silence from the president when it came to including representatives from the mental-health community, whom many believe can provide important insight about the possible connection between the otherwise seemingly senseless acts of violence being committed by school-age children and prescription psychotropic drugs such as Ritalin, Luvox and Prozac. There are nearly 6 million children in the United States between the ages of 6 and 18 taking mind-altering drugs prescribed for alleged mental illnesses that increasing numbers of mental-health professionals are questioning. Although the list of school-age children who have gone on violent rampages is growing at a disturbing rate -- and the shootings at Columbine became a national wake-up call -- few in the mental-health community have been willing to talk about the possibility that the heavily prescribed drugs and violence may be linked. Those who try to investigate quickly learn that virtually all data concerning violence and psychotropic drugs are protected by the confidentiality provided minors. But in the highly publicized shootings this spring, information has been made available to the public. April 16: Shawn Cooper, a 15-year-old sophomore at Notus Junior-Senior High School in Notus, Idaho, was taking Ritalin, the most commonly prescribed stimulant, for bipolar disorder when he fired two shotgun rounds, narrowly missing students and school staff. April 20: Harris, an 18-year-old senior at Columbine High School, killed a dozen students and a teacher before taking his own life. Prior to the shooting rampage, he had been under the influence of Luvox, one of the new selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, or SSRI, antidepressants approved in 1997 by the Food and Drug Administration, or FDA, for children up to the age of 17 for treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder, or OCD. May 20: T.J. Solomon, a 15-year-old at Heritage High School in Conyers, Ga., was being treated with Ritalin for depression when he opened fire on and wounded six classmates. Two other high-profile cases from last year show a similar pattern: May 21, 1998: Kip Kinkel, a 15-year-old at Thurston High School in Springfield, Ore., murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been prescribed both Ritalin and Prozac. Although widely used among adults, Prozac has not been approved by the FDA for pediatric use. March 24, 1998: Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, opened fire on their classmates at Westside Middle School in Jonesboro, Ark. Johnson had been receiving psychiatric counseling and, although information about the psychotropic drugs that may have been prescribed for him has not been made public, his attorney, Val Price, responded when asked about it: "I think that is confidential information, and I don't want to reveal that." A great deal has been written about all of these cases. There have, however, been no indications that all of these children watched the same TV programs or listened to the same music. Nor has it been established that they all used illegal drugs, suffered from alcohol abuse or had common difficulties with their families or peers. They did not share identical home lives, dress alike or participate in similar extracurricular activities. But all of the above were labeled as suffering from a mental illness and were being treated with psychotropic drugs that for years have been known to cause serious adverse effects when given to children. At the top of the list of so-called "mental illnesses" among children is attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, which is diagnosed when a child meets six of the 18 criteria described in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM-IV, published by the American Psychiatric Association, or APA. ADHD was determined by a vote of APA psychiatrists to be a "mental" illness and added to the DSM-IIIR in 1987. By definition, children with ADHD exhibit behaviors such as not paying attention in school, not listening when spoken to directly, failing to follow directions, losing things, being easily distracted and forgetful, fidgeting with hands or feet, talking excessively, blurting out answers or
Re: [CTRL] Fw: A Declaration of Independence 1999
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: day [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Declaration of Independence 1999 When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them to their leaders disloyal to the common good of the nation, and The way for "people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them to their leaders" in a democratic republic is to vote for someone else. Throw the bastards out, elect new bastards. That's how the GOP took the Presidency and Congress in the 80's and 90's. Then of course it turns out that Americans just replace one set of political bastards with another, eh? Does this suggest that when Americans manage dissolve their old political bands, the new links they forge will be any less corrupt and venial? When politicians depend on money to survive, can they be anything but tools of the corporate interests that feed them? And who decides just what constitutes "the common good of the nation" if not the American electorate, and via their votes, the politicians we elect to office? Ya, in our democratic republic, we get precisely the government that we deserve. Would another structure be superior? How about a democratic monarchy, an oligarchic republic, a hereditary plutocracy, a slew of anarchic fiefdoms, a genetic matriarchy, a pagan theocracy, a randomized kleptocracy? What's your preference? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Energy's Nuke Weapons Chief Quits
-Caveat Lector- Saturday June 26 1:13 PM ET Energy's Nuke Weapons Chief Quits By H. JOSEF HEBERT Associated Press Writer LOS ALAMOS, N.M. (AP) - The Energy Department's top official overseeing the nation's nuclear weapons programs has resigned because of differences with Energy Secretary Bill Richardson over the department's organization, administration sources said Saturday. Victor Reis, assistant secretary for defense programs, submitted his resignation in a letter to President Clinton on Friday, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity. Reis could not be reached immediately Saturday. Reis is one of a number of officials targeted by an internal review into the mishandling of an espionage investigation involving a Taiwan-born scientist at the Los Alamos nuclear weapons lab. Officials said, however, that Reis cited as the reason for his resignation his differences with Richardson over creation of a largely autonomous nuclear weapons agency within the department. Richardson opposed such an agency, believing it will reduce the energy secretary's authority and create a ``fiefdom'' largely immune from outside scrutiny. ``I will not agree to an agency I cannot control,'' Richardson said last week when asked about pressure in Congress for DOE reorganization following the espionage and security problems at the labs. Reis has told Richardson he supports legislation being proposed by three Republican senators, including Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico, to put all nuclear weapons programs under an agency that would report to Richardson, but would make its own budget and personnel decisions. Richardson has suggested streamlining the lines of authority within the weapons program and raising its profile by making its head an undersecretary. Security and counterintelligence activities and budget decision and personnel decision making must remain elsewhere in the department, he said. Appointed to his post in 1993 by then-Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary, Reis has been in charge of the nuclear weapons programs during a time when department security officials complained of lax security and concern about espionage at the weapons labs. Some of those officials have told Congress that they were thwarted by senior Energy Department officials from pressing their case or discussing it with congressional committees. Richardson has acknowledged mistakes were made in the investigation, beginning in 1996, of the Los Alamos scientist. The department has been criticized particularly for not searching the scientist's computer early in the investigation and for not removing him promptly from his sensitive job. The scientist, Wen Ho Lee, was fired in March for security violations. He has not been charged with a crime and has denied through his lawyer providing secrets to China. An internal review of the handling of the security complaints and the Lee espionage investigation by Energy Department officials is expected to be completed within weeks. Richardson has said some DOE and Los Alamos lab officials will be fired and disciplined. -- The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them. - Henry David Thoreau DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism [explosive must read 4 Freedom Lovers]
-Caveat Lector- The Secret World of U.S. Communism 0n March 27, 1962, the U.S. Communist newspaper The Worker exuberantly reported the following story: Attorney General Robert E Kennedy admitted, in effect, in a press conference in Los Angeles on Saturday, that the persecution of the Communist Party reflects a monstrous hoax perpetrated on the American people. He declared at the press conference that the Communist Party of the U.S. is no danger to the security of the U.S. For the CPUSA, such a statement from the then-highest official of the U.S. Justice Department (as well as the brother of the U.S. President) was astonishing and unexpected. Especially so, since the Kennedy administration had experienced an embarrassing Communist public relations victory in its botched Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba the previous April 17, 1961. What Atty. General Bobby Kennedy supposedly did not know at the time, but the CPUSA did, was that the American Communist party then and back to its beginnings in 1919 was bankrolled by the Kremlin. CPUSA sent its members for military, espionage and terror training to the USSR, maintained an illegal underground apparatus to steal U.S. documents (including atomic secrets), penetrated both the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA, and Office of War Information (OWI) during the Roosevelt WWII administration. It even commissioned CPUSA officials to Soviet secret police posts to spy on each other and on suspected unorthodox leftists, such as Stalins nemesis Trotsky, who was murdered with an axe to his skull in Mexico City, all arranged by the CPUSA and Kremlin fellow-henchmen. After decades of deceit, the truth about the CPUSA is finally out. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the archives of the Comintern (Communist International), the Soviet Communist Party, and other formerly super-secret documents have become available to historians and researchers. Under an agreement with the Russian Centre for the Preservation and Study of Documents of Recent History, Yale University press is undertaking a gigantic project to publish an annotated selection of these official records in a series called Annals of Communism. A total of 18 volumes is planned (in English and Russian editions) dealing with such topics as History of the Soviet Gulag System, 1920-1989, The Last Days of the Romanovs, and Soviet Politics and Repression in the 1930s. The great value of the project is already apparent in volume one, entitled The Secret World of American Communism with Soviet documents authoritatively annotated by Harvey Klehr of Emery University, John Earl Haynes of the Library of Congress and Fridrikh Igorevich Firsov, now curator of the Comintern archives. The documents in this volume demonstrate that the widespread popular belief that American Communists collaborated with Soviet intelligence and placed loyalty to the Soviet Union ahead of loyalty to the United States was well founded, they say. Concern about the subversive threat of the CPUSA and worries that Communists employed in sensitive government jobs constituted a security risk were equally well founded. So much for the Party and its fellow-travellers line that anti-communism was an irrational and indefensible persecution of a group of American reformers or that it was impossible for the CPUSA to have engaged in nefarious activities. Documents from the Soviet secret archives prove that is exactly what CPUSA agents were doing. Many historians have failed to come to grips with the issue of Communist infiltration in government agencies or the dubious nature of the Popular Front alliance between. Communists and a segment of liberals during the 1930s and 1940s, the editors of this volume note. Previously, evidence of the Communist presence could be trivialized or its reliability questioned. In addition to their own evidentiary weight, they lend crucial support to the large mass of direct and circumstantial evidence indicating a substantial organized presence in a number of government agencies... The CPUSA, Klehr, Haynes and Firsov pronounce, was a conspiracy financed by a hostile foreign power that recruited members for clandestine work, developed an elaborate underground apparatus, and used that apparatus to collaborate with espionage services of that power. Official Soviet documents that have become available in recent months shed much light on secret Kremlin activities and directives over the past decades. For example: Proof that the Kremlin directly ordered the massacre of 5,000 Polish military officers at Katyn Forest in 1940 and possibly 15,000 other intellectuals, religious and prominent Polish citizens at POW camps in Kozielsk, Starobielsk, and Ostashkov, USSR who simply vanished after WWII. Proof that Stalin ordered the North Korean invasion of South Korea in 1950 and used respected foreign journalists such as I.E Stone and Wilfred Burchett (both Soviet agents) to blame South
[CTRL] White House Underestimated Kyoto Costs, Studies Agree [$394.4 billion]
-Caveat Lector- Global Warming Issues White House Underestimated Kyoto Costs, Studies Agree If ratified by the Senate -- to which it has not yet been submitted -- the Kyoto treaty on global warming negotiated by the White House in 1997 would commit the U.S. to reducing greenhouse gas emissions by more than 30 percent, to 7 percent below their 1990 levels. The Clinton administration claims the economic benefits of reducing emissions to 1990 levels by 2010 would roughly equal the costs of the required energy cuts. But studies from the GAO, the Energy Information Administration and the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank determined that the administration significantly underestimated the costs involved. The GAO analysis found that Department of Energy studies cited by the White House had relied on unsubstantiated assumptions concerning the future competitiveness of solar and wind power. In addition, the GAO said the department did not consider the full economic costs of the proposed energy taxes, and it relied on implausible scenarios concerning the timeline for replacing powerplants and other capital equipment. The EIA predicted that the Kyoto demands would increase gasoline prices 52 percent and hike electricity prices 86 percent, decrease gross domestic product by 4.2 percent, and lead to a 2.5 percent decline in personal disposable income. The Dallas Federal Reserve study by Stephen Brown -- released by the National Center for Policy Analysis -- found the Kyoto accord requires between two and seven times more carbon dioxide reduction by the U.S. than is justified even under the most dire global warming predictions. Moreover, the U.S. would have to reduce energy use by more than 30 percent below projections for 2010 -- equivalent to the total amount of energy used for transportation in 1996. Brown determined that even using only the most economically efficient means, complying with Kyoto would reduce U.S. GDP by between 3 to 4.3 percent in 2010 -- a loss of $275.2 billion to $394.4 billion. Source: H. Sterling Burnett (National Center for Policy Analysis), Investor's Business Daily, June 24, 1999. For NCPA's Global Warming Hotline go to http://www.ncpa.org/hotlines/global/gwhot.html Dallas Headquarters: 12655 N. Central Expy., Suite 720 - Dallas, TX 75243-1739 - 972/386-6272 - Fax 972/386-0924 Washington Office: 655 15th St. N.W., Suite 375 - Washington, DC 20005 - 202/628-6671 - Fax 202/628-6474 © 1999 NCPA http://www.ncpa.org/hotlines/global/pd062499a.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GOA To preserve the House victory, pick up the phone and keep up the pressure
-Caveat Lector- Good News and Bad News on Capitol Hill -- To preserve the House victory, pick up the phone and keep up the pressure Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org "House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. [favors enacting] some gun control, but not so much as to turn off conservative campaign donors next year." -- Associated Press, June 19, 1999 HERE'S WHAT TO DO: 1. Illinois Residents. House Speaker Denny Hastert is still committed to passing "some gun control" legislation this year. Tell him you don't want ANY 2nd Amendment restrictions and warn him that "conservative campaign donors" might find more worthy causes to give to if he keeps pushing gun control. You can call his leadership office at 202-225-0600 (or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: 202-225-7733). 2. Texas and California Residents. Ask House Whip Tom DeLay (R-TX) and House Deputy Whip John Doolittle (R-CA) to use their leadership positions to ensure that no further action is taken on the juvenile crime legislation. If they hear a huge outcry from the grassroots, they can forcefully argue that Americans don't want the current brand of crime legislation being served up on Capitol Hill. Contact DeLay at ph: 202-225-5951, fx: 202-225-5241, no e-mail; and Doolittle at ph: 202-225-2511, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: 202-225-5444. 3. Anyone With a Phone or Modem. Senator Orrin Hatch is trying to send juvenile crime legislation to conference committee. Now that media reports have revealed he's running for President in the year 2000, his office should be glad to hear from ANY potential constituent inside the U.S. You can give Hatch the same message as listed above (in #1) by contacting his office at ph: 202-224-5251, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: 202-224-6331. 4. Finally, go to http://www.gunowners.org/106hvote.htm on the GOA website to view the full analysis of each firearms related amendment that was voted on last week, as well as the complete voting records relating to all of these provisions. Voice your displeasure with Representatives who have cast anti-gun votes. (If you don't have Web access, but you're a GOA member, don't fret! GOA members will receive an upcoming newsletter containing a House and Senate breakdown of the votes.) (Friday, June 25, 1999)-- The hard-fought victory gun owners achieved in the House last week is still standing-- for now. While the House defeated the "gun control approach" to solving juvenile crime, they did pass a separate bill which takes a more "cultural approach" to dealing with the issue (e.g., allowing the Ten Commandments to be posted on school walls, etc.). This bill (H.R. 1501) could potentially be sent to a House-Senate conference committee where it would be blended together with the very anti-gun Senate crime bill (S. 254) that passed last month. BUT, no conference committee can begin meeting until the House and Senate first vote to send the bills to conference. Thankfully, pro-gun champion Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) has placed a "hold" letter on the juvenile crime legislation-- a parliamentary maneuver that keeps any action from happening until he gives his consent. While this is a good start, a "hold" letter increases in effectiveness as more Senators sign on to the letter. Activists in Oklahoma and Wyoming especially, should ask pro-gun Senators James Inhofe (R-OK) [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] and Michael Enzi (R-WY) [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] to join Smith and sign on to the "hold" letter on H.R. 1501 (call 202-224-3121). [Note: any legislator can be reached toll-free at 1-888-449-3511.] The Good Guys. The results of the House votes from last week display a grim picture. Out of 435 Representatives, only five voted 100% correct in regard to the 11 gun votes that GOA rated. All five were Republicans: John Doolittle (CA), John Hostettler (IN), Rick Hill (MT), Zach Wamp (TN), and Ron Paul (TX). (Rep. Henry Bonilla (R-TX) also voted 100%, although he missed five of the votes.) Another legislator who deserves honorable mention is Rep. Tom DeLay, who fought several insider battles to allow "killer" pro-gun amendments to be offered to the House juvenile crime bill H.R. 2122. Those "killer amendments" encouraged enough anti-gun Republicans and Democrats to vote against the bill. The Bad Guys. Democrats on the Appropriations Committee are giving thought to trying to attach anti-gun amendments to legislation providing funding for the Treasury Department. According to the Associated Press, "Ready with amendments are Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., whose proposal would tighten requirements for sales at gun shows; Rep. Nita Lowey, D-N.Y., who wants to raise the minimum age of hand-gun buyers from 18 to 21; and Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., who favors mandatory safety devices with all hand guns." Website news of note: In the short time
[CTRL] Fw: ADV6-26-99: Smell the Blood!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: American Dissident Voices [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 7:40 AM Subject: ADV6-26-99: Smell the Blood! American Dissident Voices Broadcast of June 26, 1999 Smell the Blood! by Dr. William Pierce During the past few weeks we've been talking mostly about the Clinton government's war against Serbia, and I've sometimes gotten a little hot under the collar. Some listeners have accused me of becoming intemperate. Well, perhaps so. But let me assure you, I do bite my tongue pretty hard to avoid saying what I really feel sometimes, because the FBI certainly would lock me up if said everything I felt like saying, and Janet Reno would file all sorts of charges against me. But I must tell you, I do not believe that it is intemperate of me to say that this monstrosity of a government we have in Washington is an evil thing which must be destroyed, by any means necessary. I believe that everyone who serves this government, of whatever party, is a traitor to our country and an enemy to our people, and should be dealt with accordingly. You see, that's the sort of statement which some listeners believe is intemperate, but which I believe is merely a statement of fact. And it's a statement which needs to be made, because people need to think about it. I really have a hard time trying to reason with people who can remain calm when their government is murdering our kinsmen in another country wholesale. People get excited when a couple of nutcase teenagers in Colorado kill 13 of their classmates; they wring their hands and say, "Oh, isn't it just awful! What will we do about violence in our society?" But they remain calm when their government deliberately murders 7,000 or so -- that's seven thousand -- of our kinsmen in Europe in order to make them obey the orders of a bunch of nutcase, would-be commissars for the New World Order. It's big news for weeks when Timothy McVeigh blows up one building in Oklahoma City, but when our government, using our armed forces and our tax money, blows up dozens of buildings and kills hundreds of people every day in Serbia, the news is just ho-hum stuff; it's likely to be pre-empted by a basketball game. Maybe part of this lackadaisical attitude about the government's mass murder in Serbia is due to the feminization of American society and of the American male that I've complained about. Men's mental horizons have been contracted to the point where murder is real only when it happens next door; if it happens in another country it isn't real. It's just something one sees on television. Or maybe some people just play too many video games. I guess that's the case with our military people. They don't seem to have any problem with killing people wholesale for no good reason when it's all done with "smart" weapons and video screens. You press a button, use a joystick to guide the bomb to its target, then "boom!" just like in a video arcade. That's not like having to get up close and stick a knife in your victim and listen to him scream or shoot him in the head and get splattered with his blood and brains. But you know, the latter way is really much better -- at least, from a moral standpoint -- because when a normal person, a moral person, has to kill another person up close, he needs a good reason for doing it: a better reason anyway than that's what he's being paid to do. Too many of our military people have the attitude that they're just being paid to play an exciting video game when they guide their "smart" bombs to their targets, but in fact they're being paid to murder the men, women, and children who are blown to bits by those bombs. And you know, it's not just the murder of Serbs that people should be concerned about. They should be concerned that it's their government committing the murders, not someone else's government that's none of their concern. We have a gang of homicidal maniacs running our country. People should be concerned about that. Do you think I'm misusing the word "murder"? Listen, I understand that sometimes people need to be killed. I can think of a lot of people in Washington and New York and Hollywood that need to be killed, and the sooner the better. I have no problem with killing people who are trying to kill us; I have no problem with self-defense. I don't consider that murder. In this era of total government corruption I don't consider the assassination of a politician or a bureaucrat to be murder. I don't consider the killing of a domestic enemy of our people to be murder, or of a foreign enemy, when the killing is in defense of our people in time of war. But when a gang of Jews and wannabee commissars for the New World Order deliberately kill people who are not our enemies, who have not harmed or threatened us, and with whom we are not at war; and when the people being killed are our
[CTRL] Jeb's wife tries to smuggle $19,000 in jewelry![fined $4,500]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ciajfk.com/ from Website (ciajfk.com) research copyrighted by Bruce Campbell Adamson Are you really interested in the truth and in God? Will cooperate with news agencies who are. Preaching Hypocrites: This week Barbara Bush tells her son George W. Bush in Newsweek that God is calling on Bush Jr., if God is I sure have not heard him. While Jeb's wife tries to smuggle $19,000 in jewelry, she is caught and fined $4,500. How can these righteous Christians permit the stealing of dues owed and smuggling by Jeb and his wife? Oh sure, Jeb's wife took the blame. These righteous believers also forgave Neil Mallon Bush when he was involved in the banking scandal with Keating. To me that is stealing from the government? Right? In the same way a person evades Tax collection. Jeb Bush probably said that this would destroy his career as a politician. I'll bet everything I own, that they were gifts from Florida's governor Jeb. NBC and every other news agency says that the Bush's are "the greatest." Let us not forget that Jeb's brother was friends with the Hinckley's brother and having lunch with him several days before Hinckley shot and wounded President Ronald Reagan when George Bush was Vice President. Let us stop beating around this bush, the evidence is overwhelming. Bush is tied to de Mohrenschildt, James Parrott who was talking about killing Kennedy according to George Bush Sr.'s own words on November 22, 1963; J.E. Hoover, oilmen, in charge of the CIA when there are three congressional investigations into CIA's role in JFK's demise; signed into law the JFK Assassination Records Review Board Act without disclosing that he knew Lee Harvey Oswald's closest friend, a CIA agent George de Mohrenschildt since 1942. George Bush Sr.'s operation was the Bay of Pigs invasion for the Central Intelligence Agency shortly before Joseph Kennedy lost two of his sons. I can prove that the CIA's Operation Zapata was George Bush, Sr. and Edwin Pauley's operation known by the American public as The Bay of Pigs invasion.. Last Sunday Bush Sr.'s and Clinton's campaign managers, now husband and wife appear on Republicanized Meet the Press. Clinton's Attorney, (Zapruder's attorney) is Robert Bennett. Whose brother William Bennett, (an alleged Clinton critic) was a major player of Bush's Cabinet. Bush's childhood friend Edward G. Hooker, (de Mohrenschildt step-nephew) was a cousin to Mrs. J.D. Rockefeller and there are those whom have suggested that Clinton is the illegitimate child of Winthrop Rockefeller. Is he? I don't know, but I have asked Darrel Darling who a close friend of Hilary and Bill Clinton. They don't seem to know the answer either. They lost a son Adam Darling who was on the plane with Ron Brown on April 4, 1996 over Yugoslavia. Was the Yugoslavia war was a result of the downing of this plane? Bill Clinton distracts the publics attention, in my opinion with false new evidence from Yeltsin on Oswald. Is it rigged? Bush Sr. threw the election to Clinton now it looks like Clinton is throwing the election to Bush Jr. who in 1976, George Bush Jr. employed Oswald's roommate Billy Joe Lord, eighteen years earlier Lord was with Oswald when he defected to the Soviet Union. President Bill Clinton's adviser Sidney Blumenthal's best friend Edward Jay Epstein was the last person to interview de Mohrenschildt before placing the shotgun in his mouth. Epstein displayed to de Mohrenschildt the Dallas Morning News article, stating that de Mohrenschildt was nuts. Two weeks earlier on March 15, 1976, Billy Joe Lord filed a FBI report against Epstein, that Epstein's writers (possibly CIA agents) threaten to go to his boss George W. Bush, Jr. the current governor of Texas. It was merely happenstance that Epstein was the last person to meet with Oswald's closest friend before he placed a shotgun in his mouth to clear his conscience. Oswald, Jack Ruby and de Mohrenschildt all went to their graves claiming that Oswald was set up. Now Clinton is feeding us Bull and so are the Bush's. I have written Al Gore's campaign and said that I would allow him to post the George Bush letter admitting this on his Website if he'll allow a link to my Website. If everyone harps on George Bush, Sr. and Jr. ties to de Mohrenschildt and Billy Joe Lord then I am sure even the most conservative would find these bush's hard to digest. I doubt it very much that Gore would display this document. The Rockefeller's NBC throws Geraldo Rivera with the bathwater and promotes Jeb and George Bush, Jr. regardless of character. While the news media won't touch any of these issues eventually they will have to face the music. Yours very sincerely, Bruce C. Adamson P.O. Box 1103 Santa
Re: [CTRL] Fw: ADV6-26-99: Smell the Blood!
-Caveat Lector- Pierce is an anti-Semite of the 1st order...He web site www.natvan.com, clearly shows this...listen to his broadcasts here, they're almost funny But, point blank...Pierce is a nutcase!! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Blowing Whistles
-Caveat Lector- From originalsources.com Picture: Original Sources Scroll -- ORIGINAL SOURCES June 1999 HEADLINES -- Bombshell Testimony on Clinton's Threats to National Security Whistle-blowers The China Connection House Government Reform and Oversight Committee June 24, 1999 Prepared Testimony of Congressman Curt Weldon Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I welcome the opportunity to testify today -- not as a Republican looking for a target of opportunity to attack the Administration, but as a Member of Congress concerned about the politicization of national security matters and retribution against government employees who stood up against it. In fact, it was my efforts to bring bipartisanship to the national missile defense debate that brought me here today. In 1995, the congressional leadership committed to passing legislation that would mandate the timely deployment of a national missile defense system. Unfortunately, that debate began on a highly partisan note -- bolstered by the President's repeated public insistence that the United States was no longer targeted by Russian missiles. Concerned about the Administration's attempts to downplay missile threats and the lack of alternative information on threats and systems to defend against them, I established the bipartisan Congressional Missile Defense Caucus with John Spratt, Peter Geren, and Duncan Hunter to educate members and the American public about the issues. Through hearings and briefings, the regular distribution of materials, and in speeches across the country, I worked aggressively to increase awareness of threats and to counter misrepresentations that were being made. Soon, people were coming to update me on threat developments, asking that I follow through so that critical matters were not overlooked. Sadly, I also became a conduit for agency employees whose findings were being squelched by the Administration. That is how I first learned about the Administration's aggressive campaign of distortion -- when a former DOE employee came to my office in 1995 to discuss the deterioration of Russian nuclear security. Jay Stewart In 1991, Jay Stewart, Director of DOE's Office of Foreign Intelligence, commissioned a panel of DOE specialists to assess the control, safety, and security of Soviet nuclear weapons. Later that year, results indicating a loss of control were briefed to Secretary of Energy James Watkins, and the CIA. Stewart made continued monitoring of this urgent situation -- known as the "Russian Fission" program -- the office priority. In December 1992, he led a classified conference on this subject matter at the National Defense University [NDU], which was widely attended by the military, intelligence and policy communities. Hazel O'Leary was briefed on this situation in February 1993, and asked that Secretary-General of NATO Manfred Woerner be briefed immediately. Suddenly, after marshalling the highest levels of support from the U.S. government and NATO, the program was terminated by the newly appointed Director of DOE's Office of Intelligence and Arms Control, Jack Keliher. All papers, briefings, agendas, conference video and audio tapes were seized, locked up -- and ultimately destroyed. Keliher said that the Secretary told him the program was "politically sensitive" and could "embarrass the President." He said that "if any materials from the NDU conference ever leaked to the press, somebody would be fired." He then said Stewart's work was "ill informed," contained "inaccurate assumptions and conclusions" and should not be referred to because it "gave the wrong impression of the situation in Russia." Refusing to buckle under to political pressure and tow the party line, Stewart and his deputy were both removed from all DOE intelligence and management duties. Facing a future in dead-end positions, both quietly left DOE. Jay was an outstanding career employee of the Department of Energy, who worked his way up the ranks to serve as the First Director of Counterintelligence, and as Director of Foreign Intelligence. Among the many professional awards he received were the National Intelligence Meritorious Unit Citation, the Presidential Meritorious Executive Rank Award, and ultimately, the National Intelligence Distinguished Service Medal. Concerned that the Administration would try to bury this information, and astounded by the lengths to which it went to dispose of the findings, I initiated an Armed Services Committee investigation of this matter. Most Department employees "circled the wagons," preventing us from obtaining physical evidence of politicization. However, Jay's story was ultimately corroborated by three brave DOE employees, and was later backed up in the book One Point Safe. I
[CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL!
-Caveat Lector- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ... CELEBRATE HOMOGENEITY I just posted the following on my web page at http://homepages.go.com/~theusaman/facts.html -Al- [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE 16 FACTS CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL 1. The White race made America what it is today. 2. American heritage is White heritage. 3. American law is based upon White concepts from White European thought. 4. The American all-White neighborhoods of the past were demonstrably safer, and freer of crime of all sorts than integrated neighborhoods of today. 5. The American all-White schools of the past were clearly superior to any integrated school of today. 6. All great societies of the past which were White as they rose to power, when they changed from being dominantly White, to a dominantly mixed race society, they fell permanently into decay. (e.g. Egypt, Greece, Rome, Spain, Portugal.) 7. Racial integration of our neighborhoods and our schools has forced them into decay, just like the racial integration of the societies of the great White nations of the past caused them to fall into decay. History, both ancient and recent American, have consistently taught the very same lesson. It is clear beyond any debate, that modifying the racial composition of America away from the dominantly White society that it was as it rose to power, towards a mixed, racially diverse society, will be catastrophic. It will plunge the great American nation into the same depths that the other great White nations of the past have fallen into. 8. Based upon the extensive history of the Black race it is clear that they are not capable of creating or maintaining an advanced society. They have never created one advanced society in Africa. In every case (such as Haiti) where they have been given a thriving society, they have killed it, driving it into the same primitive state that their people have always lived in, in their native Africa. (For any who is foolish enough to doubt history, we have the sad spectacle of South Africa playing out before us, which should erase all doubts.) 9. History has shown us that the Black race cannot create or maintain an advanced society on their own. They therefore, as a people, cannot well fit into an advanced society, as equals, living and working beside those who not only are capable of building one advanced society, but have built numerous such societies in all climates and in all types of land. 10. History has shown us that the Hispanic peoples are also deficient in creating advanced societies like the White race has repeatedly created. While they have show ability that is superior to the Black race, by creating written language and some moderately advanced societies they have not been able to take the superior natural resources of the South American continent and do much with them. 11. Spain and Portugal sent soldiers to the lands south of the Rio Grande to conquer and take the wealth of the land. Instead of sending families to colonize, the Spanish men took native wives. The racial makeup of the lands south of the Rio Grande is composed of American Indian, Black, mixed-race and a small percentage of Whites thrown in. Their lands have never thrived like the nations to the north where Whites colonized and kept their race in tact, seldom mixing their race with others. 12. By "celebrating diversity" we are bringing in the Hispanic and Asian peoples into White America and we will cause the North American continent to become like the South American continent. The great wealth and stable society of the White United States will be traded for the poverty and instability of the revolution torn countries south of our border. 13. Even if all races were exactly the same, if there were no differences whatsoever, the fact that Whites created the nation of the United States of America, means that we are completely within our honorable rights to restrict entrance into our country. We may honorably allow only White immigrants, or no immigrants at all. 14. The number of Whites, as a percentage of world population, is now
[CTRL] Electro-Propulsive Flying Saucers - Non-Alien Secret Tech?
-Original Message-From: Bill Lyne [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@pimout4-int.prodigy.net;; Undisclosed-Recipient:;@pimout4-int.prodigy.net;;; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 1:12 PMSubject: Re: Your question to the end secrecy egroups(Copyright, 1992-99, William R. Lyne) Dear Remy, and Lloyd, it may be true that Lusar was a German officer during the war, but he was not in the Luftwaffe, and his information on flying discs was limited on a need to know basis, so he really didn't have any information beyond the general appearances of the ships. Lusar's knowledge and speculations were based on conventional jet-propulsion technology already generally known to the public by the time he wrote his books, and the boundary layer technology, which was strictly aerodyne technology, of Prandtl and later Coanda, was also declassified early on, showing that it had nothing whatsoever to do with REAL flying disc technology. The secret agencies have declassified NOTHING relating to true, electro-propulsive flying ship technology, including any historical origins, theories, or related developments which might lead investigators to the real technology. I was able to piece the technology together during over 50 years of research, during which I saw electro-propulsive flying saucers up close (300' maximum distance), in broad daylight, with many witnesses. I was able to discover Tesla's secret primarily by reference to papers published prior to 1900, supplanted by remarks and tidbits leaked through news paper, book, archive and magazine material since then. I combined this with numerous information gleaned from numerous personal contacts and experiences to come up with the complete picture. I have pieced together the major substance of Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity, which was completed by Tesla in 1893-94, which was never published by him, and which is still classified by the U.S. government, because in the theory lies the secrets of the electro-propulsive technology. The persons Lusar named, such as Miethe, Schriever, etc., etc., were primarily aerodyne DESIGNERS, not inventors of the technology. This was particularly true of the Italian, Belluzo. The aerodyne projects (based on aerodynamics and jet-propulsion, or in the case of Habermohl's Flugerad, heliocopter technology combined with rotating jet-propulsion pods) were for misinformational purposes, because the Germans had already acquired the far superior electro-propulsive technology of Nikola Tesla, as early as 1934 insofar as I have been able to determine, and tested the technology at Los Alamos, New Mexico, in a secret project called p2, between 1936-38, under the direction of Wernher von Braun, who had come to New Mexico on the invitation of the American Rocket Society, the Smithsonian, and the Simon and Florence Guggenheim foundations, to work with Dr. Robert Goddard, at his laboratory at Mescalero, New Mexico, with a test range at Eden Valley. Tesla apparently agreed to work in the German project, after he had offered the technology to the U.S. government on several occasions, and was treated like a lunatic. He was led into the project under the idea that it was for peace and all mankind. In late 1945, General George Patton made a deep penetration beyond Russian lines to Peenemunde, to retrieve or destroy all the electric disc technology, rocket technology, and related technology, so the Russians wouldn't get it---at least from that source---and among the things found by Patton, was 200 celestial guidance systems for German flying discs, which were stored deep underground in a salt cave. Patton was ordered to destroy the systems, which really made him mad, but he didn't know that our intelligence and the corporations already had all the duplicate files on these weapons and developments. The Germans had around two large stashes of these files, and we got them both. This trip by Patton---in which saucer-hunting intelligence officers posed as tank commanders---has now been completely purged from all war histories available to the public, and the entire incident classified, although I read about it in 1957, and discussed it with my co-workers in Air Force Intelligence. In 1979, as detailed in my book, PENTAGON ALIENS (1999)(the third edition of Space Aliens From the Pentagon), I acquired a Peiltochterkompass (polar slave compass), which was brought to Sandia Base, New Mexico, with some of the electro-propulsive German saucers after the war. This device is one-half of one of the celestial (inertial) guidance systems which Patton found in the Peenemunde salt cave. I was personal friends with a rocket pioneer, Peter van Dresser, who was angry about Goddard's sharing of his rocket technology with von Braun, and considered him a traitor. Van Dresser's technology antedates that of von Braun and Goddard. His
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- These guys are all DEAD! So are Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and Marx. Are we to let dead men think for us? Or are we going to think for ourselves? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] These guys are all DEAD! So are Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and Marx. Are we to let dead men think for us? Or are we going to think for ourselves? Letting others do the thinking is always easier. Letting others do the voting is easier, too. I like it when people don't vote - then my vote counts extra. In essence, I'm thinking for them AND voting for them. It's very empowering. I draw the line at doing other people's windows for them, though. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dictionary of Key Terms for a Free and Virtuous Society [must 4 List newbies]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.acton.org/resources/dictionary.html Dictionary of Key Terms for a Free and Virtuous Society Compiled by Stephen Grabill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and Gregory M. A. Gronbacher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ANARCHISM: The belief that it is possible for there to be an orderly social order in the absence of any government. While various schools of anarchism exist, all share the common view that a society can peacefully exist without any state structures. Key thinkers include Karl Marx*, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon*, Pytor Alekseyevich Kropotkin*, and Murray Rothbard*. ARISTOCRACY: The word "aristocracy" means rule by the best. A form of government where a few qualified elite have political power. The primary justification for aristocracy is the imperfection of all human beings. The best for which the masses may hope is to be ruled by an hereditary elite, who have been bred to the prospect of power, rewarded with the privileges necessary to make its members accept the responsibilities of office, and have checks on its powers. Key advocates include Plato*, Aristotle*, Edmund Burke*, and John Calvin*. AUSTRIAN ECONOMICS: Austrian economics is a school of economic thought founded with the publication of Carl Menger's Principles of Economics in 1871. Austrian economists believe that economics is a science of timeless and universally true propositions regarding how human beings fulfill their needs and wants through social cooperation given scarce resources. The Austrian school has several identifiable tenets including methodological individualism (see Individualism), economic value subjectivism, and strong opposition to government intervention in the market. It is often thought to be the economic "ideology" of conservative and classical liberal thinkers (see Classical Liberalism). One reason for this identification is because of its individualistic and anti-statist features. Another is due to the central role it attributes to private property in the market system. Key thinkers who followed Menger include Ludwig von Mises*, Eugen Boehm-Bawerk*, Friedrich Hayek*, Murray Rothbard*, and Israel Kirzner. CAPITALISM: Capitalism can be described as a free-market system of economics. Economic liberty is the cornerstone of the free-market system. Economic liberty entails freedom from unnecessary government intervention in the market place, legal protection of private property, and the freedom to buy and sell almost anything at any time. Free-market thought has its origin in several sources including the work of the French physiocrats, the late Scholastics, and the British classical economists, notably Adam Smith. Classical economics (see Classical Economic Theory) later developed into various schools of economic thought. Three prominent schools include the Austrian school, the Chicago school, and the Virginia school (sometimes called the Public Choice school). The single defining characteristic unifying all three schools is a tireless defense of human liberty, particularly, economic liberty. Forceful admonitions against direct government involvement into the economy unites every free-market economist regardless of background and theoretical viewpoint. Free-market economists agree that, while the intentions of government may be honorable, intervention disrupts market processes by curtailing liberty and spontaneous development. Key thinkers include Adam Smith*, Ludwig von Mises*, Friedrich Hayek*, Milton Friedman, Wilhelm Roepke*, James Buchanan, Gary Becker, and Michael Novak. CLASSICAL ECONOMIC THEORY: Adam Smith, author of The Wealth of Nations, best represents the school of classical economic theory. Classical economists were occupied mostly with the production of capital. These economists determined prices for goods not by consumer demand, as we do today, but by how much an item cost to produce (natural price theory). Because the science of economics began about the same time as modern natural science, the classical economists frequently employed scientific and philosophical ideas in their writing. Key thinkers include Adam Smith*, David Ricardo*, and John Stuart Mill*. CLASSICAL LIBERALISM: A term used to describe a political philosophy commonly held in nineteenth-century England and France but now undergoing a renaissance in the United States. Classical liberals advocate free markets, a vibrant array of nongovernmental institutions (such as civic groups, schools, churches, etc.), and minimal tax-financed government services. Classical liberals firmly believe that both persons and property should be protected from physical harm. They also emphasize the strict enforcement of contracts. Classical liberals, following Lord Acton, consider liberty to be the highest political value but not to the point of becoming a worldview. Examples of classical liberal thinkers include Frederic Bastiat*, Lord Acton*, Alexis de Tocqueville*, John Locke*, John Stuart Mill*, and Friedrich Hayek*. COERCION: Distinguished from
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- -- From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] These guys are all DEAD! So are Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and Marx. Jesus is alive and well, thank you! Are we to let dead men think for us? Or are we going to think for ourselves? And, he doesn't think for ushe guides us, strengthens us, and teaches us forgiveness.and we need all that strength and foregiveness to tolerate the liberals. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- I like it when people don't vote - then my vote counts extra. If voting could change anything it would be against the law. No matter who you vote for government wins. Don't vote; it only encourages them. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- Jesus is alive and well, thank you! That' your opinion. The majority of people disagree. And, he doesn't think for ushe guides us, strengthens us, So it's his fault you people have raped, murdered, stolen and enslaved for a millinia and a half? and teaches us forgiveness. and we need all that strength and foregiveness to tolerate the liberals. If you can tell a liberal from a conservative, more power to you. As for me, no matter whether I look to the left or the right, if I look far enough I see EXACTLY the same thing: a bunch of guys with guns who want to tell me how to screw, which drugs to take and when to show up for work. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Shroud of Turin
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/24/99 1:21:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As Gerald Larue says: "Carbon-14 dating has demonstrated that the Shroud is a 14th-century forgery and is one of many such deliberately created relics produced in the same period, all designed to attract pilgrims to specific shrines to enhance and increase the status and financial income of the local church." Certainly a supportable contention. One that I think is PROBABLY accurate. BUT, there are some intriguing aspects of the Shroud, like the pollen and other adherents to the cloth which support an older date and a middle eastern origin. One must certainly accept the fact that religious relics are used by the church to further their own belief systems. Science usually fails to support and again we are left with issues of faith and belief, in the face of science (as if science is always right all the time!). The shroud is an interesting relic and I am open to all the possibilities. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Shroud of Turin
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/25/99 5:24:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since the Shroud of Turin is such a fake, created six centuries ago --- William Shannon wouldn't mind creating a few more, I'm sure. I mean, with today's technology it should be child's play. Carbon dating is very unreliable, -- it falls into the category of "evolution", which, on the basis of the available scientific evidence, stands totally disproven as of now. Carbon dating isn't worthless, but it can mean one of several things, depending on the premises. The new "don't raise any questions" propaganda tool is the DNA testing; the results released two days before the 1998 election showing that Jefferson and Sally Hemmings had relations and a child -- prove to be fraudulent, as since Jefferson had no male surviving line, there was no way to do the test. It was just a guess Incidentally, please advise us all when the new Shroud "fakes" are done. Thanks. Jim Condit Jr. P.S. opportunists making up fake relics do not necessarily discredit the orginal happenings. I must agree with the notion that Carbon dating is unreliable in some cases, and this may be one of them. I also must agree that just because there is a fake does not mean that there was not an original somewhere. However, it also does not mean that there IS. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: SNET: Quotations About Jews By the Jews Themselves - QUOTES TO ENHANCE TOLERANCE AND UNDERSTANDING
- Original Message - From: MAG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 10:58 PM Subject: SNET: Quotations About Jews By the Jews Themselves - QUOTES TO ENHANCE TOLERANCE AND UNDERSTANDING A FEW QUOTES Today it is taught in the schools that "Anti-Semitism" began in Germany in the 1930s after which they were deported. What is not studied is the fact that at one time or other the Jews have been expelled from every nation in Europe! When the Jews first began to immigrate to America the early colonialists in New York, Charleston and Savannah tried to ban their entry. Benjamin Franklin pleaded with the members of the Continental Congress to enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration into the U. S. Constitution to bar them for all time to come. The Jews claim that they are "only" a religion. The truth is that the Jews are a RACE. Less than 30% are members of any Synagogue. Whether they are Orthodox religious, atheists, capitalists or communists - they still claim to be Jews - members of the Jewish race! Every race has inherited traits. In the case of the Jews they include trading, money-changing, usury, and a loathing for "productive labor" which is scorned as beneath the dignity of the Jews in their "bible" called "THE TALMUD." The Jews have not changed since the days when Jesus Christ took up a whip and drove "the money changers out of the Temple." Jews have always united to form monopolies. Today they control all the department store chains and speciality shops along with the lucrative jewelry and animal fur trade. Jews dominate the fields of all precious metals such as gold, silver, platinum, tin, lead, etc. They will always ban together to drive Gentile competitors out of business. Today America is being flooded with Jewish immigrants from Russia and even 20,000 per year leave Israel for the U. S. - all with dollar signs in their eyes. Jews have used their vaunted money-power to seize control of the Democratic Party and constitute over 50% of all its financial contributions. Today they are buying up more and more major U. S. companies. While only 3% of the population, the Jews control over 25% of the nation's wealth and this percentage rises every year. They are the only racial group totally organized to work for political domination over America. Opposition to the Jews did not begin in Germany but dates back before the birth of Christ over 2,000 years ago! Study the statements made by "The world's greatest men." They reveal why the "wandering Jews" have made enemies out of every host country that ever accepted them. AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his "On the Governance of the Jews," he wrote: "The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to worked so that they could earn their living instead of doing nothing but becoming avaricious." H. H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937 "The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the Boers. Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond mines of South Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild controlled gold; Samuels controlled silver, Baum controlled other mining, and Moses controlled base metals. Anything these people touch they inevitably pollute." JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44 "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. - then answered the Jews - " (which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.) ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D. "The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians. They wandered through the country everywhere hating and undermining the Christian faith." SHAW, GEORGE BERNARD. 20th century British dramatist. "This is the real enemy, the invader from the East, the Druze, the ruffian, the oriental parasite; in a word: the Jew. (London Morning Post, December 3, 1925) This craving for bouquets by Jews is a symptom of racial degeneration. The Jews are worse than my own people. Those Jews who still want to be the chosen race (chosen by the late Lord Balfour) can go to Palestine and stew in their own juice. The rest had better stop being Jews and start being human beings. (Literary Digest, October 12, 1932) QUOTES TO ENHANCE TOLERANCE AND UNDERSTANDING We shall drive the Christians into war by exploiting their national vanity and stupidity. They will then massacre each other, thus giving room for our own people. Rabbi Reichorn in Le Contemporain, July 1, 1880. We Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look
Re: [CTRL] a tribe of budding supermen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/25/99 7:30:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Net is purgatory. Fools communicating with each other only multiplies folly. "Baboon politics" (a nod to Tim Leary and RA Wilson) using high-tech tools only succeeds in getting baboons to pound each other over the head more elegantly. There's nothing new under the sun, except perhaps more expensive sunglasses. How true. And let's not forget more effective sunscreen, and Aspartame. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: Every Patriot need to visit this site to be counted.. It's u
-Caveat Lector- This individual is trying to get one million hits on his web page within 100 days. He is then going to send the address to some legislators to show there are people interested in continuing to own guns. Just go to his web site to show a hit. Sounds to me like a good way to get your door kicked in someday. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL!
-Caveat Lector- hi, other critical facts never taught by WASPs: 1. one of the first and oldest ARYAN races was black 2. 'white civilisation' has simply been a better organised bloodbath 3. History teaches us nothing because it is false and used as a political vehicle by evil people looking for scapegoats to murder. Whoever built the pyramids at giza long before 'official explanations' began - was not white, or human, but had a superior civilisation. 4. Racists are undereducated and have no critical academic faculties which is why they're IQ defficiency is so antisocial. Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group EdinburghScotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Son of Sam
-Caveat Lector- We will be revisted by the Son of Sam this summer in the movie Summer of Sam. I have heard references to it, but know next to nothing nothing about it. Could somebody post some info on Son of Sam some theories behind it/him as well? Thanks. -- "Those who want to hear the voice of pagan gods in wind or thunder, who want to see the fairies dance in the moonlight, who can believe that faith can move mountains, can follow the thread on the pages of this book. It is a fragile thread; it cannot bear the weight of facts and dates" -Kate Seredy, "The White Stag" ICQ: 9815080 Operator Taliesin_2 of #SacredNemeton on IRC PaganPaths DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL!
-Caveat Lector- Good thing for the students that are black children, huh? People who think like you make me fear that we will never rise above this tragedy called life on earth. -Original Message- From: Peter L. Sroufe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:53 PM Subject: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL! -Caveat Lector- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ... CELEBRATE HOMOGENEITY I just posted the following on my web page at http://homepages.go.com/~theusaman/facts.html -Al- [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE 16 FACTS CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL 1. The White race made America what it is today. 2. American heritage is White heritage. 3. American law is based upon White concepts from White European thought. 4. The American all-White neighborhoods of the past were demonstrably safer, and freer of crime of all sorts than integrated neighborhoods of today. 5. The American all-White schools of the past were clearly superior to any integrated school of today. 6. All great societies of the past which were White as they rose to power, when they changed from being dominantly White, to a dominantly mixed race society, they fell permanently into decay. (e.g. Egypt, Greece, Rome, Spain, Portugal.) 7. Racial integration of our neighborhoods and our schools has forced them into decay, just like the racial integration of the societies of the great White nations of the past caused them to fall into decay. History, both ancient and recent American, have consistently taught the very same lesson. It is clear beyond any debate, that modifying the racial composition of America away from the dominantly White society that it was as it rose to power, towards a mixed, racially diverse society, will be catastrophic. It will plunge the great American nation into the same depths that the other great White nations of the past have fallen into. 8. Based upon the extensive history of the Black race it is clear that they are not capable of creating or maintaining an advanced society. They have never created one advanced society in Africa. In every case (such as Haiti) where they have been given a thriving society, they have killed it, driving it into the same primitive state that their people have always lived in, in their native Africa. (For any who is foolish enough to doubt history, we have the sad spectacle of South Africa playing out before us, which should erase all doubts.) 9. History has shown us that the Black race cannot create or maintain an advanced society on their own. They therefore, as a people, cannot well fit into an advanced society, as equals, living and working beside those who not only are capable of building one advanced society, but have built numerous such societies in all climates and in all types of land. 10. History has shown us that the Hispanic peoples are also deficient in creating advanced societies like the White race has repeatedly created. While they have show ability that is superior to the Black race, by creating written language and some moderately advanced societies they have not been able to take the superior natural resources of the South American continent and do much with them. 11. Spain and Portugal sent soldiers to the lands south of the Rio Grande to conquer and take the wealth of the land. Instead of sending families to colonize, the Spanish men took native wives. The racial makeup of the lands south of the Rio Grande is composed of American Indian, Black, mixed-race and a small percentage of Whites thrown in. Their lands have never thrived like the nations to the north where Whites colonized and kept their race in tact, seldom mixing their race with others. 12. By "celebrating diversity" we are bringing in the Hispanic and Asian peoples into White America and we will cause the North American continent to become like the South American continent. The great wealth and stable society of the White United States will be traded for the poverty and instability of the revolution torn countries south of our border. 13. Even if all races were exactly the same, if there
[CTRL] Speaking of Gun Shows
-Caveat Lector- This weekend Colorado Springs is having a gun show which it has once every quarter. I have never been to a gun show till today because I never had the urge to own a gun ... I had enough of them in the military. However, I see our rights going down the toilet one by one and I decided to get a couple of thousand dollars and arm myself, not against criminals (I can handle them with a baseball bat) but against the government. If the IRS is armed, maybe I need to be armed also, especially when they budget a million dollars for semautomatic weapons. I was surprised because the parking lot was full and people were walking around everywhere with guns. When I entered the building there were police and guards everywhere asking if I was carrying a weapon or ammunition. There were thousands of guns there, everything you could think of from flintlocks to Thompson machine guns. There were SKS rifles, AR-15's (M-16 civilian version) 10 gauge shotguns, you name it and many of the dealers had signs that said they could get you any kind of rifle you wanted. I had the idea that you could buy a weapon without the government knowing about it, that's why I went to the gun show ... Zipperboy Clinton says there are not any restrictions on gun shows ... bullshit! there was a cop on every isle, all the sellers required an I.D. check and registration. Not only that, but the prices were outrageous, $1500 for an AR-15, $500 for a mini14 (same caliber as an M18) and there were boxes of ammo you could purchase in bulk, by the thousands. As I was leaving the parking lot I noticed a cop car driving around, seemed that one of them was writing something in a notebook (license numbers?). I didn't buy a gun. I am a law abiding citizen, hell the last ticket I got was in 1969. I haven't even thought about breaking the law, but I sure felt strange looking at guns with cops standing around all over the selling area. I did manage to talk to a few people when I sat down for a coke and a BBQ sandwich and it seems a lot of people were like me, wanting a weapon to protect myself from a government gone haywire, but not feeling comfortable in this "Big Brother" environment. I guess now I'll just have to buy a flare gun at the local boat shop. They aren't against the law. It may not have the stopping power of a 38, but I can sure "lite 'em up" and their bullet-proof vests won't be flare proof. It's a pity when you don't feel safe in your own country, especially when you've lived in Japan, Turkey, South Korea, West Germany etc and felt safe there. They don't need more gun controls, they just need a lot less government involvement in our private lives. Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Son of Sam
-Caveat Lector- I think David Berkowitz has taken to claiming he was involved in a widespread Satanic cult (The Process?) where he was merely the patsy set up to take the fall and that the NYPD allegedly suppressed evidence incriminatory of other participants in their eagerness to close the case. Jamieson On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard wrote: -Caveat Lector- We will be revisted by the Son of Sam this summer in the movie Summer of Sam. I have heard references to it, but know next to nothing nothing about it. Could somebody post some info on Son of Sam some theories behind it/him as well? Thanks. -- "Those who want to hear the voice of pagan gods in wind or thunder, who want to see the fairies dance in the moonlight, who can believe that faith can move mountains, can follow the thread on the pages of this book. It is a fragile thread; it cannot bear the weight of facts and dates" -Kate Seredy, "The White Stag" ICQ: 9815080 Operator Taliesin_2 of #SacredNemeton on IRC PaganPaths DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Saturday, June 26, 1999
-Caveat Lector- from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS subject: AANEWS for June 26, 1999 A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S #598 ~~ 6/26/99 http://www.atheists.org ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ http://www.americanatheist.org - A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS "Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights And The Separation Of State and Church" -- In This Issue... * Bush obfuscating abortion rights issue? * Time to contact congress about RLPA * TheistWatch: obey those "in authority" * Resources * About this list... BUSH RUNNING A STEALTH CAMPAIGN AGAINST CIVIL LIBERTIES, SEPARATION, ABORTION RIGHTS? To his supporters, Texas Governor George W. Bush is a the best chance the Republicans have of taking back 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue after eight long years of Bill Clinton. To critics, though, the namesake son of former President George Bush is vague on many policy issues, and is doing his utmost to conceal his true intentions about hot-button topics, especially the rights of women to legal abortion services. Though he has declared himself a "compassionate conservative," Bush is sending contradictory signs about his stand on the abortion question. His record on that topic, as well as issues related to the separation of church and state, is raising concerns with many groups. For separationists, the prospect of George Bush in the White House recalls his recent signing of the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), legislation which requires government to employ a cumbersome "compelling interest/least restrictive means" test when dealing with faith-based groups and practices. Bush is also a supporter of vouchers for private and religious schools, which critics see as a major step in the public funding of churches and other sectarian groups. The Texas Governor also supports initiatives like the American Community Renewal Act and other measures that will make it easier for faith-based social outreaches to receive public monies, and meld their message of faith and salvation into efforts to help the poor, prison inmates, drug and alcohol abusers or other groups. Indeed, Texas has become a laboratory in giving religious ministries unparalleled access to the criminal justice system; Chuck Colson's Prison Ministry Fellowship already operates an entire unit at one state prison and is aiming a potent religious message at inmates. Colson's group is picking up the $2 million tab for the first phase of the program, but hopes that at the end of the two-year trial period, public monies will support the operation. Restraining "Judicial Activism" And there is the prospect that Bush, or any other winner in the year 2000 presidential run, will likely end up selecting as many as three U.S. Supreme Court justices in the course of a four year term. Though he has not been grilled on the issue, Bush is likely to follow the conservative line against so-called "judicial activism," the perception that the high court has been "creating law" by extending rights in certain areas, overruling the fiat of individual states in key legal suits, and applying federal laws, including the Bill of Rights, against state actions. Many of the court's decisions since the early 1960s, especially those which helped to end prayer and Bible verse recitation in public schools (ABINGTON TOWNSHIP v. SCHEMPP, MURRAY v. CURLETT, ENGEL v. VITALE) are often cited as examples of the court's "activism." The coloration of the bench, and the mathematics of appointments, makes it likely that the next U.S. President could set a judicial tone for the nation lasting decades. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, at 74, is expected to retire around 2001, but may linger if asked to remain on the bench by a Republican President. Whereas Rehnquist has declared that separation of church and state is a legal "myth," the establishment clause has found more of a friend in Justice John Paul Stevens. At 79, he is the court's major proponent of First Amendment separation, but health concerns could force him into retirement. Next on the age ladder is Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, 69, an appointee from the Reagan era. "Rumors of ill health are persistently knocked down," notes a profile from USA TODAY. She is considered a moderate, and a key swing vote. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, was appointed by President Clinton in 1993. She has no public plans to retire, but her goal of being elevated to Chief Justice may change that if Bush or another Republican wins in the year 2000. Barring calamity, the other justices are likely to stay on through any one or two term president. Antonin Scalia is 63, and the conservative stalwart of the court. Justice Anthony Kennedy at 62 has rendered a number of decisions which have upset the religious right. David Souter, 50, was
[CTRL] Long-hidden Nuremburg laws to be exhibited at Jewish Cultural Center - 6-26-99 (fwd)
= Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = Long-hidden Nuremburg laws to be exhibited at Jewish Cultural Center. Regina http://detnews.com/1999/nation/9906/26/06260106.htm Binary data
Re: [CTRL] Son of Sam
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/26/99 9:30:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think David Berkowitz has taken to claiming he was involved in a widespread Satanic cult (The Process?) where he was merely the patsy set up to take the fall and that the NYPD allegedly suppressed evidence incriminatory of other participants in their eagerness to close the case. Jamieson On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard wrote: -Caveat Lector- We will be revisted by the Son of Sam this summer in the movie Summer of Sam. I have heard references to it, but know next to nothing nothing about it. Could somebody post some info on Son of Sam some theories behind it/him as well? Thanks. Well, this is an issue that is well covered in the book "Ultimate Evil" by Maury Terry. David Berkowitz was involved with a Satanic group which was an offshoot of the Process Church of the Final Judgment, which was an import from England in the 60's. They used German Shepherds as pets and sacrifices in their rituals. The "Son of Sam" that was written in the letters to the police may have been identifying one of the other cult members that was involved in the murder spree, the son of a man named Sam, who was involved in the cult as well as his brother and possibly his sister too. Both of those brothers died in somewhat suspicious circumstances. Some other bizarre connections involve a man named Manson II who had some involvement with Charlie's family in California and may have been a travelling hit man/executioner for the cult scene. It is virtually certain that Charles Manson had some contact with this group out in California since their offices were so close to where Charlie hung out. Many murders and bizarre happenings surround the case and it is far from over. Recently I have heard talk that the case was being reopened based on new evidence. Berkowitz, who is now supposedly a "born again" Christian, has ended his silence on the matter and begun to affirm the cult connections to the murders. The case is much more complex than we are told, even without the cult connection. There were several very different descriptions given for the assailants involved, so divergant that they could not possibly be the same person. The way the case was handled by the police was unusual to say the least. It is an interesting case and pivota to understanding the control and elitist connections with the murderous underground and cult movements in this country, and may be one of those "Rosetta stone's" to uncovering the whole damned conspiracy. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like it when people don't vote - then my vote counts extra. If voting could change anything it would be against the law. It is, in many places. No matter who you vote for government wins. Tell that to South Africans. Don't vote; it only encourages them. Good - I'll cast your vote then, and it'll be Green. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- This is very interesting in light of new technologies and future breakthroughs--could one be clones without knowing and meet oneself on the street one fine day? This seems like something that should be challenged in court. On a larger scales then are our organs our own? Amelia - Original Message - From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:06 AM Subject: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You -Caveat Lector- In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. Instead, what they said, in the bill, is that your DNA is a "Privacy" issue. The reason for doing this was so that pharmaceutical companies could TAKE your DNA - via various methods - SO LONG AS they swore to NOT disclose who the person was from whom the DNA came from. The CATCH is, that once taken, that DNA became the property of the research facility or lab that possessed it. Quite interesting isn't it? They don't want your own DNA to be "called" YOURS, but on the flip side of it, they DO want the DNA, once taken from a person's body to become the property of the person or company in who's possession that DNA is in. Additionally, I did a little research. One of the groups supposedly supporting this DNA bill was an organization which calls itself PhRMA. So, I dug into who was associated with PhRMA. As I discovered, PhRMA was composed of quite literally over a 100 pharmaceutical companiesas well as companies NOT related to the pharmaceutical industry If you are interested in which companies are involved in PhRMA, then go to my website at http://home1.gte.net/leslemke and click on the graphic which shows a DNA strand drawingit's big and red in color and says YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY SO SAYS THE OREGON SENATE When the next page comes up look for this link: YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY ACCORDING -- TO THE OREGON SENATE ( Oregon Senate Chamber Meeting of May 28, 1999 9:53 AM ) Read Senate Bill 937 for yourself and read where the main sponsor of Senate Bill 937, Senator Neil Bryant, says that *YOUR* *DNA* is *NOT* your own property. Listen to Senate members defend their SELL OUT of your intrinsic RIGHTS to the Pharmaceutical and Bio-Tech corporations as well as to Oregon State Research Institute which plans to make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS through the research of DNA. -- After you get to THAT page you'll see a link that will say this: Pharmaceutical Research Manufacturers of America *** Click on that link to see over 100 companies that have an interest in that legislation that just passed the Oregon Senate. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/26/99 7:17:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus is alive and well, thank you! That' your opinion. The majority of people disagree. And, he doesn't think for ushe guides us, strengthens us, So it's his fault you people have raped, murdered, stolen and enslaved for a millinia and a half? and teaches us forgiveness. and we need all that strength and foregiveness to tolerate the liberals. If you can tell a liberal from a conservative, more power to you. As for me, no matter whether I look to the left or the right, if I look far enough I see EXACTLY the same thing: a bunch of guys with guns who want to tell me how to screw, which drugs to take and when to show up for work. First of all saying that "we all need Jesus" is proselytizing and has no place here. You may have your beliefs but do not try and tell others they need to share them with you. That said, Nessie's response was unnecessarily harsh against the beliefs of the original poster. Saying that "you people" implying this individual and all Christians approve of rape and the other things you identify, as well as carry them out, is just designed to inflame so please refrain from this tactic. One can point out the history of Christianity and make a case for "the church" causing much death and other harm during it's existence but let's NOT make this a personal issue or attack each other in such a way. Thank you. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
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From: day [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
These guys are all DEAD! So are Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and Marx.
Jesus is alive and well, thank you!
First graffiti: JESUS LIVES IN MY HEART!
Next graffiti: Watch out; if He gets stuck in an artery, you'll die.
Buddha lives. Muhammad lives. Lao Tzu lives. John Lennon lives.
De Sade lives. Caesar lives. Sappho lives. Garelamaisama lives.
All icons and memes live. Marx isn't do so well at the moment, tho.
Are we to let dead men think for us? Or are we going to think for
ourselves?
And, he doesn't think for ushe guides us, strengthens
us, and teaches us forgiveness.and we need all that strength
and foregiveness to tolerate the liberals.
Yeshua [Jesus] is claimed by liberals, moderates, conservatives,
reactionaries, idealists, racists, pacifists, warmongers, dweebs,
UFOlogists, pantheists, Baha'is, Mormons, and multitudes of others.
Whatever of his is 'taught' obviously isn't very clear. Of course,
the fundy jeezoid criminal conspiracy bent on imposing their very
authoritarian views upon humanity would have us think otherwise, eh?
But then, Yeshua himself was part of a 'criminal conspiracy' or
'national liberation movement' or 'band of bandits' [depending on
who you ask], the Jewish Revolt, violent militants bent on ridding
their Holy Land of Hellenes, Romans, Armenians and other outsiders.
Thus Yeshua is recorded to have consorted closely with a Zealot
[terrorist] and an Iscariot [short-sword assassin], as well as
representatives of the Fisher's Guild [at a time when fishing in
Palestine was being forcibly converted from an off-season pursuit
by farmers into factory-fishing for delicacies to appease the
gullets of Imperial demand.] RENDER UNTO CAESAR THAT WHICH IS
CAESAR'S - and since Israel/Judea belonged to {YHWH}, NOTHING
there was Caesar's - an open call to tax revolt, eh? I COME NOT
TO BREAK HOLY LAW [Torah] BUT TO SUSTAIN IT - that is, back to
Hebraic fundamentals. Not exactly words of toleration, eh?
When you ignore the context of the times, it's easy to say that
Jesus 'teaches' something or other, usually whatever whomever's
citing Jesus wishes to emphasize. Look at the history, and it's
a lot clearer - Yeshua's conspiracy was crushed by the Romans,
his movement was co-opted by Graeco/Roman forces, and that old
Hellenic conspiracy is still active today. Can't we move on?
Ric "God was my copilot but we crashed in the Andes I ate Her" Carter
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[CTRL] Clinton Committing America to Suicide
-Caveat Lector- WND Exclusive Commentary by: Jon Dougherty Clinton committing America to suicide © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The "war" in Kosovo, now that an unworkable peace has been established, is no longer featured on the front pages of most major U.S. newspapers. All we are left with is cleaning up the mess, picking up the costs of our damage, patting Clinton on the back for his "military genius," and babysitting two warring factions -- again -- for the next millennium. A far more dire military situation than Kosovo has evolved, however, in regards to U.S. national security. And no matter how you try to spin it, the seriousness of it is nobody's fault except William Jefferson Clinton. As de facto "commander" of the U.S. military and president of this great nation, ultimately it is he who sets national security policies real military leaders must follow. For years defense experts and, in some cases, serving military commanders have been trying to warn Americans that the Clinton administration is decapitating U.S. nuclear weapons systems to the point where many are now non-existent. Simultaneously, with the help of a compliant mainstream press, Americans have been told that those concerns are unfounded because Russia and China are no enemies of this state, that they too are disarming as we are, and that no Russian or Chinese nuclear threats exist in the first place. Besides, Clinton apologists maintain, even if they were a threat, neither can match the "power, reach and technological superiority" of the United States. Maybe in 1988 after the Reagan years, but in terms of military technology that was a long time ago. And as hundreds of thousands of current and former military personnel will attest, a lot can happen -- or not happen -- in a decade. At this time our nuclear force is a shell of what it once was, which would be just peachy if the United States did not face any threats to our existence from potential enemies with similar or better nuclear capabilities. But America does face those threats, and the list of countries that could be aligned against us in the future is growing. Worse, the U.S. has either directly provided much of the necessary upgrading technology or, at a minimum, has -- via the taxpayers -- paid for upgrading the newest weapons systems. Hostile countries are now fielding those weapons and, if you care to, you can take a guess as to where they are being aimed. It's one thing to shut down a tank production line or scale back the number of B-2 bombers you plan to build. But in this day and age, it's quite a different (and more dangerous) thing to unilaterally rid yourself of nuclear weapons. But that is what the Clinton administration is doing. Here's a rundown of our current unilateral nuclear disarmament: Clinton has signed Presidential Decision Directive 60, which changed the onus of our nuclear response. In the past the U.S. military has been able to "respond on warning" of a nuclear attack. No longer; Clinton has required our military commanders to receive direct approval from him before they can order the retaliatory launch of U.S. nuclear weapons against a country who launched at us first, even though U.S. commanders would know within seconds -- via satellite -- when an enemy's missiles were launched, and from where. Clinton has ordered that America reduce her nuclear warhead deployment to 2,500 warheads -- far fewer than Russia, and before Russia has even considering ratifying a treaty limiting warhead deployment. This means, essentially, that the doctrine of "MAD" -- Mutually Assured Destruction -- no longer applies because the Russians can destroy our retaliatory capability at once, and still have enough inventory in reserve in case they need to launch further nuclear strikes. According to Joel M. Skousen, a political scientist and avid Russia analyst, "The most savvy Soviet-watchers can point to a host of evidence indicating that the so-called 'collapse' was engineered to disarm the West and garner billions in direct aid to assist Russia while inducing the West to take over the economic burden of the former satellite states. But the most ominous evidence is found in defectors from Russia who tell the same story: Russia is cheating on all aspects of disarmament, and is siphoning off billions in Western aid money to modernize and deploy top-of-the-line new weapons systems aimed at taking down the U.S. military in one huge, decapitating nuclear strike." Though considered at one time, the Clinton administration has killed any effort to build a U.S. -version of a mobile nuclear ICBM. The conventional nuclear missile
Re: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Amelia Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is very interesting in light of new technologies and future breakthroughs--could one be clones without knowing and meet oneself on the street one fine day? This seems like something that should be challenged in court. On a larger scales then are our organs our own? In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. If your DNA is not your own, then anyone cloned from you is a separate and distinct person, legally. Another recent news item mentioned twinned embryos, implanted and birthed six years apart - thus, you could quite possibly encounter a clone you never knew, have no ownership over, etc. So: if one has sex with one's clone [of possible distinct appearance and age], is one committing: masturbation; incest; buggery; narcissism? If you and your clone have the same fingerprints, retinal patterns, DNA for forensic purposes, and one of you commits a crime, can you both be found guilty? If you buy something, does your clone own it too - if not, how can differences between you be distinguished, how can actual ownership be discerned? If your clone locks you up, are you your keeper's brother? More germane in this forum, what benefit does any conspiracy gain by promulgating clones, by owning DNA, by controlling destinies? Who stands to gain? Who finances current legal/social/cultural movements re: genetic modification, DNA/genome sequencing, mammalian cloning? Follow the money. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's better Bush or Gore. WAS:[CTRL] algore - ..racist ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/26/1999 7:40:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bush is definitely Antichrist material (whether in the religious or political sense, both are true). Gore is a lackey. Which is better, which is worse? What do you think? Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to choose between these two? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's better Bush or Gore. WAS:[CTRL] algore - ..raci...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/26/99 11:43:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bush is definitely Antichrist material (whether in the religious or political sense, both are true). Gore is a lackey. Which is better, which is worse? What do you think? Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to choose between these two? Prudy Very true, but we are definitely NOT the ones who decide who is going to go up for the job. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/26/99 8:20:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 16. Those who support American diversity, Nonwhite immigration, miscegenation, integration, and/or Affirmative Action, are either: 1) ignorant of the above critical facts; or 2) blatant haters of the White race and seeking to end its existence on planet Earth. I am someone who, whoever wrote this message will despise. I am half white, and the other half are the people who, despite your beliefs, are from this country, the North American Indians. If anyone has the right to grant access to this country, it's us. But we aren't bigots, we believe in equality, the great spirit has bestowed each race it's own strength and weakness. You say that the Hispanic race didn't use their resources the way they should have? That is from a European perspective, which idealizes the belief that the Earth was meant to be "owned"!! You say that my peoples way was uncivilized and foolish, why? Because we treat everyone as equals? I can see where that would anger someone who thinks the way you do. Who went to other countries and destroyed peaceful, kind civilizations, simply because they didn't have the same beliefs as you? And you said the great Civilizations fell when they integrated? Well, let's see, Egypt fell when it integrated with Greece, Rome fell when it integrated with the Persians. Correct me if I'm wrong, but those are all European countries!! To close, I quote Dennis Banks,"Yes, because I was born here, but don't call me that, because so were you, I'm an American Indian. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dist of Columbia
-Caveat Lector- Beginnings of articles from Wash (DC) Post This one is 6 parts Building Inspector http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- srv/local/galleries/avenger/inspector.htm James Delgado has been threatened, assaulted and sued, he's been chewed out by his bosses, but in D.C. neighborhoods the word is out: If you have a problem, call him. Story by Peter Perl Photographs by Michael Lutzky From The Post Magazine Sunday, June 27, 1999 Delgado tenses as he approaches the battered front door and listens for movement inside the run-down row house at 3439 14th St. NW. He is wearing a gold badge on a chain around his neck identifying him as a D.C. government building inspector. He's also wearing a gray sweat shirt, beneath that a blue bulletproof vest, beneath that a T-shirt, and beneath that, resting against the bare skin of his chest and back, a blue cloth scapular of Saint Michael to protect him from evil. Just before he knocks on the door, Delgado says a soft, hurried prayer to himself: "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord." Continued at site ~~~ Flood of Officers ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- srv/local/daily/june99/shootings27.htm Flood of Officers Hits D.C. Streets By Sari Horwitz, Sewell Chan and Eric Lipton Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, June 27, 1999; Page A1 D.C. police officials yesterday took the extraordinary step of blanketing large swaths of the city with undercover and uniformed officers and requested Park Police and National Guard helicopters last night after days of violence that included the killing of a grandmother and the shooting of a mother and the baby she was cradling Friday night. Continued at site AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary June 27 Serge Halimi
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Michael Albert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:ZNet Commentary June 27 Serge Halimi Date sent: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:07:38 +0100 Here is today's ZNet Commentary Delivery from Serge Halimi. The attached file is the same material in nicely formatted html so that you can read it in your browser if you wish. To pass this comment along to friends, relatives, etc. please note that the Commentaries are a premium sent to monthly donors to Z/ZNet and that to learn more about the project folks can consult ZNet (http://www.zmag.org) and specifically the Commentary Page (http://www.zmag.org/Commentaries/donorform.htm). Here then is today's ZNet Commentary... -- The Left and European Elections By Serge Halimi Now we know for sure that « Europe » does not exist. At least not in the hearts and minds of Europeans. Only two days after they concluded a war against Yugoslavia, decided and fought by the United States, the fifteen countries of the European Union (EU) voted together with an enthusiasm heretofore witnessed mostly in the United States: 51% stayed out. Five years earlier, the abstention rate ran at 43.2%. This was considered much too high then; in 1989, the rate had been 42%; in 1994, 39%; in 1979, 37%... The euro is born, the European Parliament less powerless than it used to be, a war has been fought on European soil. And yet, in France, the ruling Socialist party scored a victory with a mere 10% of the eligible voters. In Britain, where the turnout was 23%, one in three voters ignored an election was even taking place. Outside business offices and editorial boards, euro-enthusiasm is decidedly hard to find. Why should it be otherwise? If Europe were to mean something, it would have to stand for an economic model different from the American prototype and assert a foreign policy departing from that dictated by Washington. On both scores, the disappointment is overwhelming as Europe gets ready to pay the cost of reconstructing what American airplanes have destroyed in the Balkans and as European units are set to play a leading role in removing landmines from the region. For a very long time, and especially during François Mitterrand's endless presidency (1981-1995), many European socialists had been claiming that their alignment on Washington--its diplomacy, its free-market economic policies--was the unpleasant product of « European solidarities » largely shaped by right-wing governments in Britain and Germany. Europe could not be social, we were told, so long as Socialists remained a distinct minority in Europe. Six months ago, all that was supposed to have changed. With the electoral defeat of Helmut Kohl's Christian Democrats in Germany, eleven out of the fifteen European governments were controlled by left-of-center coalitions, most notably including Greens in Germany and France and communists or former communists in France and Italy. Consequently, the four largest European countries became (and still are) nominally governed by the left, whereas the exact opposite had been true two years before. Yet, as one could have surmised, the transition from Major-Juppé-Kohl-Berlusconi to Blair-Jospin-Schröder-d'Alema has barely changed the direction of Europe. Americans are familiar with the fact that a shift from Bush to Clinton (to Bush?) might not herald the dawn of a new democratic process. This may be why so few of them bother to cast a vote. Europe used to be different. Despite the fact that the leading socialist (or social democratic) parties kept veering to the right, discarding most of their egalitarian ideology in the process, the arrogance and free-market extremism of European conservatives (such as Margaret Thatcher or Silvio Berlusconi), the damage they could wreak on a still functioning welfare state, made electoral competition worth its while. Hence the sigh of relief that shook Britain, France, Italy, and Germany when, in those countries, the Right was sent packing by the voters. Some of these left victories, moreover, were not the product of a marketing campaign, effective sound-bytes and « triangulation ». In France, for example, Jospin's unexpected ousting of the right in 1997 owed much to the huge popular mobilization which, eighteen months before, had shaken the right's confidence that its government could enact free-market « reforms ». When, on December 12 1995, two million Frenchmen demonstrated against the attempt to dismantle part of the welfare state, The Economist accurately captured the mood of the times : « Strikers by the million, riots in the street : the événements in France over the past fortnight make the country look like a banana republic in which an isolated government is battling to impose IMF austerity on a hostile population ». Indeed, the right had lost in the streets and in the
[CTRL] Top U.S. Energy Dept. Official Resigns
-Caveat Lector- A re-iteration of my earlier post with new fact/statements. -- Sunday June 27 12:10 AM ET Top U.S. Energy Dept. Official Resigns WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Victor Reis, the assistant Secretary of Energy for Defense Programs, resigned his office effective July 30, an agency spokeswoman said Saturday. ``He did resign, yes,'' said the DOE spokeswoman, who asked to remain unidentified. Reis, who oversees U.S. nuclear weapons development, is one of the officials at the center of the swelling controversy involving allegations that China stole American nuclear secrets. He submitted his resignation to President Clinton, who appointed him in 1993, the spokeswoman said. Earlier, The Washington Post quoted some U.S. officials as saying Reis resigned because of disagreements with Energy Secretary Bill Richardson over the future safeguarding of U.S. nuclear weapons research. Reis wanted to create a semi-autonomous nuclear agency that would improve management at the country's nuclear weapons facilities, the newspaper said. The Energy Dept. spokeswoman could not confirm that report. ''He gave no reasons for his resignation in his letter,'' of resignation, she said. So far, Richardson has not commented on Reis's resignation, the spokeswoman said. Last month, a congressional panel said that China had stolen crucial secrets from U.S. nuclear laboratories during the last 20 years. For their part, Chinese officials said they have stolen no U.S. nuclear secrets.-- "Those who want to hear the voice of pagan gods in wind or thunder, who want to see the fairies dance in the moonlight, who can believe that faith can move mountains, can follow the thread on the pages of this book. It is a fragile thread; it cannot bear the weight of facts and dates" -Kate Seredy, "The White Stag" ICQ: 9815080 Operator Taliesin_2 of #SacredNemeton on IRC PaganPaths DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New FBI Spy Unit Gets Reno's Approval (1 of 2)
-Caveat Lector- New FBI Spy Unit Gets Reno's Approval By Roberto Suro Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, June 26, 1999; Page A05 Attorney General Janet Reno has approved a plan to create a separate FBI division for counterintelligence in response to allegations that Chinese spies stole nuclear secrets from U.S. national laboratories, a senior Justice Department official said yesterday. Officials at the FBI, CIA and Department of Defense have been discussing a possible reorganization of counterintelligence operations for months. But in the wake of a scathing congressional report on Chinese espionage, Reno "has signed off" on the proposal and forwarded it to the White House, the senior official said. Primary responsibility for counterespionage operations belongs to the National Security Division of the FBI. But that division also has other duties, including combating international terrorism. The proposed restructuring, first reported in today's edition of the New York Times, would create a separate division whose sole purpose would be to root out spies and protect America's vital secrets. Amid mounting allegations of Chinese espionage this year, Reno's Justice Department has come under criticism for refusing to approve FBI requests in 1997 to install wiretaps on Wen Ho Lee, a nuclear scientist at Los Alamos National Laboratory. Lee was fired in March for alleged security violations, though he has not been charged with any crime. Justice Department officials who reviewed the wiretapping requests concluded that the FBI did not have enough evidence to support them. The restructuring of America's counterintelligence efforts is just part of the burgeoning response to the release last month of a report on Chinese espionage by a bipartisan congressional committee headed by Rep. Christopher Cox (R-Calif.). A possible reorganization of the Department of Energy, which controls the national laboratories, is also under discussion. And Energy Secretary Bill Richardson has ordered the polygraphing of an estimated 5,000 employees in the nuclear weapons complex, the federal government's first widespread use of "lie detector" tests outside of the CIA and National Security Agency. -- "Those who want to hear the voice of pagan gods in wind or thunder, who want to see the fairies dance in the moonlight, who can believe that faith can move mountains, can follow the thread on the pages of this book. It is a fragile thread; it cannot bear the weight of facts and dates" -Kate Seredy, "The White Stag" ICQ: 9815080 Operator Taliesin_2 of #SacredNemeton on IRC PaganPaths DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] F.B.I. Is Proposing a Special Division for Hunting Spies (2 0f 2)
-Caveat Lector- June 26, 1999 F.B.I. Is Proposing a Special Division for Hunting Spies By DAVID JOHNSTON WASHINGTON -- The F.B.I. is proposing to create a division devoted solely to rooting out spies, part of a Government-wide review of counterintelligence following suspicions that China tried for two decades to steal nuclear secrets, Government officials said Friday. After the cold war and the breakup of the Soviet Union, American intelligence agencies increasingly focused on fighting terrorism, believing that espionage would become less of a threat. As a result, counterintelligence efforts dwindled, according to experts inside and outside the Government. At the Federal Bureau of Investigation, for instance, the national security division added counterterrorism operations to its traditional emphasis on fighting espionage. Officials said there was a sense that as the battle against terrorism became more important, counterespionage operations were given less priority. Now officials are proposing new ways the Government should organize to make sure that there is an emphasis on both threats, the officials said. Some aspects of the review were first reported by The Los Angeles Times. The F.B.I. Director, Louis J. Freeh, has proposed splitting the national security division into two divisions, one to fight terrorism and the other to root out spies, both led by assistant directors, the officials said. Attorney General Janet Reno has approved the request and forwarded it to the White House, they added. The Government-wide review also includes the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency and is expected to lead to an overhaul of all counterintelligence efforts. The review is a tacit acknowledgment that the Government has failed to keep pace with new forms of espionage, in a world of scientist-to-scientist contacts and academic conferences. The United States faces not only efforts to steal military secrets, but also economic espionage aimed at stealing technology or getting information that would help a country's goods compete against American products. The espionage is conducted not only by foreign governments and military intelligence services, but also by corporations. The review represents the first time the three agencies have collaborated on a systematic assessment of espionage threats. A new division of the F.B.I. devoted solely to counterintelligence would add agents and analysts to the efforts against foreign espionage, increasing the agency's staff. The bureau is likely to revise its traditional system of assessing threats and allocating budgets on a country-by-country basis, known as the National Security Threat List, officials said. The bureau will broaden its assessments of risk, including threats from corporations and even international criminal organizations. At the Pentagon, the review will focus on threats to the military and the risk that contractors, academics and research laboratories that work with the agency could provide important information to other nations, said Kenneth Bacon, the Defense Department spokesman. "The review will analyze the threat and determine whether our response is adequate," he said. At the C.I.A., officials said that only preliminary discussions had been held to review counterintelligence operations. George J. Tenet, the Director of Central Intelligence, and Freeh testified on Wednesday before the Senate Intelligence Committee about the review. The Government is changing procedures at the country's nuclear weapons laboratories. Those changes, including special squads of F.B.I. agents at the labs, are being handled by officials at the bureau and the Energy Department. The reorganization plan is a reaction to criticism of the Government's handling of suspected Chinese espionage at the labs. Some lawmakers said the F.B.I. and the Justice Department had failed to investigate aggressively possible instance of Chinese espionage including cases like that of Wen Ho Lee, the nuclear scientist suspected of helping the Chinese acquire advance thermonuclear technology. Lee has denied that he ever spied for China, and Chinese officials have denied stealing nuclear secrets. F.B.I. officials said the Lee case showed how hard it was to insure the safety of American security secrets in an environment of informal contacts between scientists working in exotic disciplines that are often hard to ferret out and evaluate. Some law enforcement officials have said the increasing focus on counterterrorism cases, including both domestic and international investigations, had drawn attention of senior managers away from the ongoing and often unglamorous counterintelligence work of keeping track of foreign visitors and Americans traveling abroad. Reorganizing counterintelligence operations represents the latest step in the long and often troubled relationship between the agencies primarily responsible for catching spies, the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. Throughout most of the
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- Jesus and Buddha, and Mohammed and whoever else are only dead in the physical sense, if you believe in them or even just know about them, they are alive, in you, in your stories, it is how entire cultures survive, extinct or not. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is President Clinton a Sociopath?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.therighter.com/column/dsm.html Is President Clinton a Sociopath? by Sarah Thompson, M.D. 9/28/98 Several people have asked me about the many statements being made regarding President Clinton's mental health. He has been labeled by some as a "sex addict", by some as a "sociopath", by some as suffering from being an "adult child of an alcoholic". Some people claim that we should not hold him responsible for his misconduct because he is "ill". Some propose that he invoke Article 25 of the Constitution to declare himself temporarily unable to discharge the duties of President, that he enter into some sort of therapy, and resume office when he is "cured". From a strict medical and psychiatric standpoint, there is no such disorder as "sexual addiction", although it is possible to diagnose a "sexual disorder" in someone who is distressed about using a succession of people for sexual gratification. Personally, I believe that "sex addiction" is not a medical or psychiatric disorder, but rather an attempt to avoid responsibility by medicalizing misbehavior. In other words, "It's not my fault, I'm addicted to sex", just doesn't convince me at all. On a related note, there are psychiatric disorders in which a person may behave in sexually inappropriate ways, and in some cases persons so affected truly do not understand that their behavior is wrong or may be unable to control that behavior. But even in those cases, the person remains responsible for any damage or emotional distress caused by such behavior. Finally there are people who are mentally incompetent. Both competency and insanity are legal, not medical terms, and such a determination can be made only by a judge or jury. Clearly if Mr. Clinton is too incompetent to manage his own affairs, or if he is insane, he is unfit to serve as President. That one is an "adult child of an alcoholic (ACOA)" is also not a psychiatric diagnosis. It is true that certain thought and behavior patterns occur more often in people who were raised by an alcoholic parent. But ACOA is a way of conceptualizing certain behavior patterns, not an illness. It is not diagnostic, but rather descriptive. It is a tool used to help children of alcoholics, their families, and their therapists better understand their particular psychological vulnerabilities. And of course, ACOA is not deterministic; some people raised by alcoholic parents do not develop psychological or behavioral problems. Finally we come to sociopathy, although the current terminology is "Antisocial Personality Disorder". Antisocial Personality Disorder is a specific psychiatric diagnosis. I'd like to simply be able to say that Mr. Clinton either does or does not have Antisocial Personality Disorder. But it's not that simple. First of all, I (like most other psychiatrists) consider it to be highly unethical to diagnose a person whom I have not interviewed in person. I have never met, much less interviewed Mr. Clinton, so I will not diagnose him. So any conclusions I may draw are my opinion. It may be an educated opinion, but I want to be very clear that I am not diagnosing anyone in absentia. Secondly, psychiatric diagnosis, according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, (DSM-IV), is bit like ordering from a Chinese menu. To be diagnosed with a specific disorder, a person must meet so many criteria from section A, so many from section B, none from section C, for example. Personally, I'm not convinced that this is the best approach to diagnosis, but as the name implies, the system is used for statistical evaluations also, and concrete criteria are absolutely necessary for accurate statistics. So for the curious and the armchair psychiatrists among us, I'm posting the full description of Antisocial Personality Disorder along with the diagnostic criteria. Antisocial personality disorder is, by definition, a mental illness. However, what is or is not a psychiatric disorder is not absolute. It is determined by a committee of psychiatrists, and is subject to change. For example, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder until the 1970's, but it is no longer included in the list of psychiatric disorders. Therefore you should read the description and criteria for yourself, and draw your own conclusion as to whether or not antisocial behavior is a mental disorder. I believe a strong case may be made for either position. Further, I do not mean to imply that should Mr. Clinton be so diagnosed, we should excuse his behavior because he is "sick". First of all, I do not believe that being "sick" relieves one of the responsibility to deal with the consequences of one's behavior. Second, while I have great compassion for those people who are mentally ill, that does not mean that I necessarily support the idea of a mentally ill person occupying the White House. If Mr. Clinton is mentally ill, he should act in accordance with Article 25 and resign. Antisocial personality is
