[CTRL] The Weird World Of Vince Foster -- Buddy & Me on Public TV (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:15:10 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Weird World Of Vince Foster -- Buddy & Me on Public TV I was invited down to KERA-TV tonight (one of the two area PBS stations) to be part of a show on Y2K. I had been a questioner during the previous Y2K show in this series about 18 months ago and I guess they decided to have me back for this show. [Warning -- Sprunt "buries the lead" in this post, exactly as usual!] There was a formal panel of four (one of whom I had done some work for years ago -- I didn't know he was going to be on the panel) and then there was a second group of people who questioned the four penalists or made comments about what the panelists had said on the air (actually, the show was taped and will air sometime in October -- apparently it will be picked up by a number of US PBS stations) when invited to do so by Dennis McCuistion the host/producer (I've known Dennis and his wife Nikki for some years -- very good folks -- they have a PBS-TV series out of Dallas/Dentor -- KERA/KDTN public TV stations in this area). OK, so far, so good. No surprises. During the show, I asked the regional head of the FDIC a question and he confirmed I was correct in my belief (he then explained why it didn't make any difference that I was right: The question: Isn't it true that under the statutes and regulations goverening banks and S&Ls -- FDIC/FSLIC -- that the monthly statement mailed to a savings or checking account holder carries NO weight re "proving up" the amount in one's account on the statement date? The Amazing, IMHO Answer, which the FDIC confirmed on the show: Yes, but . . .). Guess who turned out to be the person in my group of commenters/questioners who was seated to my left (closet to me, but separated by a few feet)? Buddy Young, Clinton's security man when Clinton was Governor and, as many of you know, the Regional Director of FEMA for our region of the US (there are ten FEMA regions across the US and Buddy Young was there in his official capacity). We did not get a chance to interact before the show since I didn't notice he was there sitting a few feet from me and (I assume!) he didn't know I was there either (we had not "met" until tonight). The fun part came during the rolling of the credits (we're on the air -- or on the tape -- but I don't think you can hear anything Dennis or anyone else was saying since the show just asks the audience to hold still while the camera is on the audience and the group of questioners/commenters during the 45 seconds or so the credits are rolling). Anyway, during the credit roll, Dennis is talking to the panel, the audience, and the sub-group I was in -- just killing time while we're on camera just before the end of the show, and Dennis says: well, we didn't get to hear much from Hugh Sprunt tonight, but he is a man who knows a lot of about Y2K and a lot about many other things too (this is close to what Dennis said, but not a quote). . . In fact, Hugh is one of the experts on the death of Vince Foster and right over here we have Buddy Young who was Governor Clinton's Chief of Security (which everyone knew since Dennis had commented on Buddy Young's Clinton affliation while asking him re FEMA and Y2K). I imagine you two have heard of each other . . . (again, this is the gist, not a quote of what Dennis said). I didn't say anything -- unusual for me as those who know me will attest! -- but Buddy Young replied -- loud enough for Dennis, me, and everyone else there to hear, something like: oh yeah, I know him. . . (or maybe: I know about/of him or some such. didn't get the exact wording). After the credits, several people in the audience come up to me to say hi (the one panelist whom I knew, another person -- he knew Chris Ruddy -- and some folks who want to talk about or ask me about Y2K). Anyway, for two-three minutes, I see Buddy Young hanging at the back of this little group like he has a few words he wants to tell me (I've never written any articles that mention Buddy Young, mostly because there is nothing in the official record that particularly links him to the Foster death or the surrounding events). . . I made quick eye contact with him and vice versa, but the folks who were queued up to chat with me meant that he would have either had have pushed through them to get to me right away (or vice versa). Anyway, I finished up chatting in turn with these three or four folks, but before I could get finished, Buddy Young had left. I assume (though I can't be sure) that he had a comment or two for me a propos of Dennis McCuisition's little informal comments to the audience about us during the credit roll, but I don't know for sure. Anyway, stranger than fiction. . . (The whole thing was completely unanticipated by yours truly.) When I left the station (walking out with a professor who was one of the formal panelists) I looked around (hum) for Buddy Young, but didn't see him in
[CTRL] Did Bill Clinton Overdose on Cocaine? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/25/161649 With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Wednesday August 25, 5:08 PM Did Bill Clinton Overdose on Cocaine? Now that the press has raised the "coke" question in their dogged pursuit of George W., questions about Bill Clinton's drug past are also fair game. One area of inquiry for the news hounds at, let's say, the Washington Post, might be an incident that supposedly taken place in the early 1980's when Bill Clinton was governor of the state of Arkansas. Dr. Sam Houston, a respected Little Rock physician and once a doctor for Hillary's cantankerous father, Hugh Rodham, says it is well known in Little Rock medical circles that Clinton was brought to a Little Rock hospital for emergency treatment for an apparent cocaine overdose. According to Houston, who told us he spoke to someone intimately familiar with the details of what happened that night, Clinton arrived at the hospital with the aid of a state trooper. Hillary Clinton had been notified by phone and had instructed the hospital staff that Clinton's personal physician would be arriving soon. When Mrs. Clinton arrived, she told both of the resident physicians on duty that night that they would never practice medicine in the United States if word leaked out about Clinton's drug problem. Reportedly, she pinned one of the doctors up against the wall, both hands pressed against his shoulders, as she gave her dire warning. Like most tales that reflect poorly on Bill Clinton, the press has ignored any inquiry into this one. In 1996, however, columnist R. Emmett Tyrrell located and telelphoned one of the nurses who had been on duty the night Bill Clinton was brought into the emergency room. According to Tyrrell, the nurse didn't deny the story, but said she couldn't talk about it because she could lose her job. Weclome to Arkansas! * * * * = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Mike Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: Patriots' Protests cause temporary cessession of CHEM-TRAILS but nowbegin again]
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -> SNETNEWS Mailing List > > (sent to USCMik1e's 32,127+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists > and newsgroups - thanks) > > Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: > > Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Amirault) for following up on the > Air Force Chemtrail spraying of Biological warfare against us citizens. > Seems like we CAN'T get Clinton to stop poisoning us similarly to Saddam > Hussein wiping out hundreds of thousands of his own subjects (citizens). > > Is it about time we turned the tables on them and did a little > retributionary spraying upon these evil puppets ourselves? > >Comments and suggestions welcome! Volunteers gratefully accepted and > trained free Anti-NBC* HAZMAT suits supplied free!!! Cover, backup, > support, supplies furnished along with Constitutional Patriot Sanctuary. > > * NBC = Federal and U.S. Military jargon for Nuclear, Biological, and > Chemical warfare and weapons of mass destruction as to be perpetrated (per > Treasonous Clinton) by international and domestic terrorists against U.S. > citizens, Patriots, Constitutional Civilian Militia, Fundamentalist and Born > Again Christians, home schoolers, anti-abortionists, anti-big government, > Pro-Constitutionalists, etc. > > USCMike1 > > In a message dated 8/25/99 7:48:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Subj: Re: U.S. Air Force NOW spraying Biological agents over Canada . > . . peoplesickened? > Date: 8/25/99 7:48:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Amirault) > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Mike, > > Thank you for the email about the chemtrails story. > > After discovering the story in early June, I posted a report about it on > July 5 at http://www.tiac.net/users/tobya/ciaindex.html">The > Christian Intelligence Advisory. For a few weeks, the spraying stopped > in the Boston area. > > However, the spraying has started up again. Beginning the week of 8/16, the > spraying began as follows: typically, planes would lay trails roughly an > hour before sunset, and only in abbreviated "trails," to make them more > resemble clouds. By the time the sun set, it was extremely difficult to > identify them as chemtrails. > > However, in the last few days, the spraying has intensified, and yesterday, > 8/24, I identified trails being laid-though not heavily-throughout the day. > I work in downtown Boston, only a few miles from Logan airport, in a > building that allows me an unobstructed, 360-degree view of the skies. > > I think those of us who realize what's going and are in the position to > influence others need to organize a rally in Washington, D.C. or a major > city soon. I have organized nationally covered rallies before and we need to > speak out more vocally on this incredible madness. Educating the public is > easy on this one, because the trails are so easily identifiable, and people > who are getting sick are making the connection. > > Also, I am working with a group of nationally known journalists to create an > investigative news show to pitch to Fox, which WorldNetDaily and others are > going to promote heavily, so stories like these are gaining visibility. > > This story is really a staggering testament to how desperately far gone this > country is, isn't it. > > Your Brother in Christ, > Andrew > >> > > -> Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -> Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. spraying Chem-trails over Panama NOW. Chinese in target path!!!!]
-Caveat Lector- Alan DeWalton wrote: > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: U.S. spraying Chem-trails over Panama NOW. Chinese in target > >path > >Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:24:06 EDT > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 25 18:30:31 1999 > >Received: from [198.81.17.5] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailB98DE3B30074D82197BCC65111050F7D0; Wed Aug 25 18:30:31 1999 > >Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id > >9WVMa07454 (4511) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:24:22 -0400 > >(EDT) > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 > > > >(sent to USCMike1's 32,169+ readers - please repost to your own mailing > >lists > >and newsgroups - thanks) > > > >Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: > > > >Clinton NOT concerned with Chinese in Panama? Here's why!! > > > >Maybe that is why Clinton is not too worried about the Chinese > >Communists > >taking over the Panama Canal??? Because he plans on wiping them out along > >with everyone else??? > > > >USCMike1 > > > >Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Profr. Jerome Steiner A.) for this personal > >eyewitness account of U.S. Military Chemtrail spraying in the Republic of > >Panama. > > > >In a message dated 8/24/99 9:29:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >writes: > > > ><< Subj: Re: U.S. Air Force NOW spraying Biological agents over Canada > >. > >. .people sickened? > > Date: 8/24/99 9:29:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Profr. Jerome Steiner A.) > > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >[re: U.S. Air Force spraying Biological agents over Canada] > > > > Mike: > > > > This doesn't surprise me at all. I have observed on two occasions here in > > the Republic of Panama the complimentary U.S. airborne dispersion via > > "dense, long lingering, contrails" of gw testing. > > > > These deliveries were followed by nationwide epidemics of respiratory > > illness of undetermined "flu strains" through out Panama. Many thousands > > affected, though death toll attributed to mystery epidemic here was low. > >I > > felt the effects to, but, have been on a regimen of doxicyclin for some > > time, re: Cfids derived from vaccines. So, I did not contract test bug. > >The > > effect in RP was not like in the U.K. where they had @ 6,000 deaths some > > attribute to contrail incidents. > > > > Reason I am so cock sure of R.P. applications is the flight path was West > > to East directly over Panama's long national axis which also is E-W > > oriented. Directly overhead where I am at is dead center in the middle of > > the country. > > > > There is the perfect path to reach the max number of Panama's > > "beneficiaries" indigenous people with the Ft. Dietrich's chemical > > coctails. I sure wish I had a shoulder delivered stinger to tag the > > bastards with. > > > > I can feel the heat up north where you are at from down here. Keep > >looking > > up, my friend, but always cover you back. I recommend the Lord, God of > > Israel for that. Read Isaiah 52:12 and 58:8 to experience this. > > > > Warm regards from south of your border, > > > > Atentamente, > > jerome steiner allen > > >> > > ___ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/theeagle-l > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Ranger@azwest.net WARNS: Be prepared for ANYTHING to happen after9-13-99]
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (sent to USCMike1's 32,163+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists > and newsgroups -thanks) > > Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: > > Can't guess what is up or what may be brewing, but my guess is be > prepared for a simultaneous Clinton instigated federal Jack-booted thugs > major push along with the American Revolution Army counter attack??? > >Actually, it could be anything or NOTHING, but don't put it past ANY of > these thoughtless and crazy entities or New World Order and United Nations > advocates and modern-day illuminati to try anything to push for total WORLD > domination! > >USCMike1 > > In a message dated 8/25/99 3:13:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Subj: Warning Be On Alert! > Date: 8/25/99 3:13:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Page) > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis Mealer) > > I received this tonight...and that is all that I know > Chris > > Subject: Warning be on alert. > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:54:54 -0700 > From: clarence napier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Please pass it on. > > Warning be on the alert from now to Sept. 13, 99, things are about to come > down on us, I can not divulge my source, after the 13th. of Sept. it is > going to get real bad. BE READY FOR IT. This warning is from the horses > mouth. Do not ask for my sources name it would put him/her in danger. > > Clarence; DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HAARP and Earthquake Triggering
-Caveat Lector- Nicola Molloy wrote: > -> IUFO Mailing List > > "NewsHawk Inc." wrote: > > > 8.19.99 > > Electromagnetic HAARP Technology Can Generate Earthquakes > > > > The U.S. Navy's top-secret, massive, global HAARP project has a long > > list of objectives, agendas, goals and targets. > > > > This massive project includes among it's top-secret agendas the > > triggering of SEISMIC DISTURBANCES. > > > > In view of this and also in view of what happened in Turkey last week, > > we present here a NewsHawk article written in May, 1998 on the many > > astonishing covert agendas of the HAARP project. > > > > ELF detectors did in fact pick up some very unusual, anomalous > > electromagnetic signals emanating form the region where the 7.4 quake > > struck Turkey, which could indicate "tampering" with earth's > > geomagnetics by HAARP and/or similar/related technologies. Such > > tampering, as our report below discusses, could in turn indicate that > > HAARP transmissions may have been deliberately targeted to trigger a > > quake in this seismically highly sensitive, unstable area. > > > > John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. > > > > HAARP'S COVERT AGENDAS > > THE BIG PICTURE > > > > Copyright 1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. > > All rights reserved. > > > > HAARP--High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program. HAARP--the kind > > angels will never strum. HAARP--the futuristic nightmare project which > > is currently in operation, researching a wide variety of effects and > > phenomena, as well as possible uses and applications for such, resulting > > from beaming massively powerful radio signals into targeted regions of > > the ionosphere; a project which has given environmental activists, > > constitutionalists, airline pilots along with ionospheric physicists and > > other groups, such as normal, ordinary people definite cause for some > > serious concern. > > > > Contrary to information made public by the operators of HAARP, it is no > > longer a relatively small, preliminary venture limited to one > > (nevertheless extremely powerful) transmitter site in the remote Alaskan > > back country. Contrary to much of the official noise being generated > > regarding the supposed "benign" uses for this multi agenda'd operation, > > the internal intelligence/military documentation and a growing amount of > > supporting material shows that HAARP is in fact at this point fulfilling > > some highly secret and highly advanced functions; in fact, some very > > negative and completely objectionable functions. > > > > The acknowledged, publicized applications for potential applications of > > HAARP technology are primarily: > >Enhancement of or interference with communications, as well as > > development of new types of radio transmissions; > > > >"Investigation" of effects on weather patterns; > > > >Earth-penetrating tomography -- an X-ray like function which can > > reveal, for example, the existence of underground installations as well > > as oil or mineral deposits. > > > > Some of the other principal yet unpublicized goals are: > >Weapons-related (physical/psychological disablement) and mind > > control uses; > > > >Large scale tampering/modification of global weather patterns via > > ionospheric disturbances; > > > >"Pushing the envelope" in terms of pumping electromagnetic energy > > into the ionosphere, just to see what happens. > > > > It bears emphasizing here that any such references to HAARP being used > > for EM mind control come directly from numerous internal documents and > > repeated references therein to HAARP's capabilities as electromagnetic > > mind modification/manipulation technology and intentions to so implement HAARP. > > > > There are yet further agendas for HAARP even more covert than these, as > > this report will discuss. > > > > HAARP ON LONG ISLAND! > > Some very interesting information about HAARP has recently come light. > > To provide a background for some of this information, we go back to > > early last summer when Brookhaven National Laboratories on Long Island > > underwent a significant and far reaching change of directorship, and > > subsequently a change of direction and focus. The changes at Brookhaven, > > one of the first National Laboratories established, received coverage > > even in the national news media. > > > > Brookhaven Labs has been repeatedly named as a major player in other > > clandestine and generally malignant and malevolent operations on Long > > Island--such as the Montauk Project and many related activities; among > > other well-known secrets are the particle accelerators underlying much > > of the area used in so many covert projects, which undoubtedly also have > > negative environmental and health consequences. > > > > Subsequent to these well-publicized but never adequately explained > > changes at Brookhaven Labs last year, several of the Navy's key HAARP > > personnel are now stationed at BNL. No public ment
[CTRL] Feds PRINT millions of meat & gas ration cards for Martial Law inSeptember?????]
-Caveat Lector- Alan DeWalton wrote: > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Feds PRINT millions of meat & gas ration cards for Martial Law in > >September? > >Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:37:07 EDT > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 25 16:41:57 1999 > >Received: from [198.81.17.1] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailB98DCA420118D82197A0C65111010BC00; Wed Aug 25 16:41:57 1999 > >Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id > >nSZHa07549 (4511) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:37:09 > >-0400 (EDT) > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 > > > >(sent to USCMike1's 32,103+ readers - please repost to your own mailing > >lists > >and newsgroups - thanks) > > > >Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: > > > > The below post that I have re-titled: "Feds PRINT millions of meat & > >gas > >ration cards for Martial Law in September?" sounds plausible . . . > >except > >for ONE thing: Why would the feds print PETROL signs in New > >Jersey?? When is the last time you went to the gas station to > >buy PETROL??? > > > >USCMike1 > > > ><< Subj: FWD: September 9th alert... from deTocqueville > > Date: 8/25/99 11:07:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Trochmann) > > > > > > FWIW -- Randy > > > > Subject: Fw: September 9th alert... from deTocqueville > > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:13:45 -0700 > > From: "Teddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >DeTocqueville sent this. > > > > : Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:30 AM > > Subject: September 9th alert... from deTocqueville > > > > >Want some gasoline or grub? Turn in a gun. > > > > > >(From another list) I got this from a friend, who has never lied to me > >before. (So, for what it is worth, I cannot prove it.) He is a Graphic > >Artist who went to a New Jersey Printer Shop twice last week to get some > >work > >done for a client. > > > > The shop owner said they were too busy doing 'Government work'. He > >noticed > >pallets and pallets of different colored coupons that said GAS on them. > >Other areas in the shop where pallets were stacked had signs in front of > >them > >on the floor that said things like MEAT and PETROL. > > > > >He went back there yesterday to see if he could steal some samples . . . > >he > >couldn't, but he had a long conversation with the sales rep. They went out > >to a bar, and he proceeded to drink all afternoon with this guy, who then > >spilled his guts. This is what was said: The Government supplied the paper > > >and ink, and everything was weighed when it came in and when it left. > > > > >Security cages had been installed by the feds, and all hard drives were > >taken, and all film and press plates were taken, too, and the whole process > >had been monitored by a Marine Captain and two armed guards. The Marine > >Captain is a Y2K Nut and said these things to the sales rep: > > > > The Government expects things to break apart around September 9th, 1999. > >The computers see this as 9/9/99, or , which is the end code for the > >software. The Marines are ready to declare Martial Law on September 29th. > >They are "counting on" the computers to go down on either Sept. 9th, 19th, > > >or the 29th. It all has to do with "9's". They are hoping it happens on > >9/9, so that by 9/29, everything will be in chaos, and the public will be > >calling on the Government to do something. > > > > >As for the gas coupons ... most gas stations will be closed when Martial > >Law is declared. The coupons are in $5 and $10 amounts, and would go on > >like > >the odd-even times with license plates like it did back in the 70's gas > >shortage. Diesel is, at this time in the plan, exempt. The Government's > >biggest fear, according to the Marine Captain, is how this will affect > >the > >economy during the holiday season. Under Martial Law, with curfews and gas > >rationing, the public won't be able to shop late, and many > > >retailers live or die by the holiday season sales. [Damn, if enough of > >us > >can't get to K-Mart, maybe Ragnarok will start sooner than we expected. > > > > >T.H.] This is supposedly why Vice President Gore was pushing Internet > >Shopping this week, so people will be able to shop at home. The sales rep > >told my friend that they were only one of many printers being used, and the > >Government needs millions of these coupon books. Others have to be involved > >in this, too. Know any printers you could ask about this? > > ___ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/theeagle-l > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and inf
[CTRL] The Missing 13th Amendment - 1/2
-Caveat Lector- http://w3f.com/patriots/13/13th-01.html ___ The Missing 13th Amendment Part 1 of 2 ___ [01] - "TITLES OF NOBILITY" AND "HONOR" In the winter of 1983, archival research expert David Dodge, and former Baltimore police investigator Tom Dunn, were searching for evidence of government corruption in public records stored in the Belfast Library on the coast of Maine. By chance, they discovered the library's oldest authentic copy of the Constitution of the United States (printed in 1825). Both men were stunned to see this document included a 13th Amendment that no longer appears on current copies of the Constitution. Moreover, after studying the Amendment's language and historical context, they realized the principle intent of this "missing" 13th Amendment was to prohibit lawyers from serving in government. So began a seven year, nationwide search for the truth surrounding the most bizarre Constitutional puzzle in American history -- the unlawful removal of a ratified Amendment from the Constitution of the United States. Since 1983, Dodge and Dunn have uncovered additional copies of the Constitution with the "missing" 13th Amendment printed in at least eighteen separate publications by ten different states and territories over four decades from 1822 to 1860. In June of this year, Dodge uncovered the evidence that this missing 13th Amendment had indeed been lawfully ratified by the state of Virginia and was therefore an authentic Amendment to the American Constitution. If the evidence is correct and no logical errors have been made, a 13th Amendment restricting lawyers from serving in government was ratified in 1819 and removed from our Constitution during the tumult of the Civil War. Since the Amendment was never lawfully repealed, it is still the Law today. The implications are enormous. The story of this "missing" Amendment is complex and at times confusing because the political issues and vocabulary of the American Revolution were different from our own. However, there are essentially two issues: What does the Amendment mean? and, Was the Amendment ratified? Before we consider the issue of ratification, we should first understand the Amendment's meaning and consequent current relevance. --- Reformatted and Reprinted here for all Americans, to ponder, and realize the predicument we are all in. If nothing is done soon, we will all be in worse shape than most realize. (if we aren't already!) [ 1] TITLES OF NOBILITY" AND "HONOR" [ 2] MEANING of the 13th Amendment [ 3] HISTORICAL CONTEXT [ 4] DON'T BANK ON IT [ 5] PAPER MONEY [ 6] CONSPIRACIES [ 7] TITLES OF NOBILITY [ 8] INTERNATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION [ 9] HONOR [10] WHAT IF? [11] PARADISE LOST [12] RATIFICATION FOUND [13] THE AMENDMENT DISAPPEARS [14] SIGNIFICANCE OF REMOVAL [15] TO THE ARCHIVES! [16] Article XIII [17] SUMMARY [18] STATE PUBLICATIONS [19] PUBLICATIONS [20] DEFINITIONS --- [02] - MEANING of the 13th Amendment The "missing" 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows: "If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them." At the first reading, the meaning of this 13th Amendment (also called the "Title of Nobility" Amendment) seems obscure, unimportant. The references to "nobility", "honour", "emperor", "king", and "prince" lead us to dismiss this amendment as a petty post-revolution act of spite directed against the British monarchy. But in our modern world of Lady Di and Prince Charles, anti-royalist sentiments seem so archaic and quaint, that the Amendment can be ignored. Not so. Consider some evidence of its historical significance: First, "titles of nobility" were prohibited in both Article VI of the Articles of Confederation (1777) and in Article I, Sect. 9 of the Constitution of the United States (1778); Second, although already prohibited by the Constitution, an additional "title of nobility" amendment was proposed in 1789, again in 1810, and according to Dodge, finally ratified in 1819. Clearly, the fo
[CTRL] The Missing 13th Amendment - 2/2
-Caveat Lector- http://w3f.com/patriots/13/13th-12.html ___ The Missing 13th Amendment Part 2 of 2 ___ [12] - RATIFICATION FOUND The Delegates knew Virginia was the last of the 13 States that were necessary for the ratification of the 13th Amendment. They also knew there were powerful forces allied against this ratification so they took extraordinary measures to make sure that it was published in sufficient quantity (4,000 copies were ordered, almost triple their usual order), and instructed the printer to send a copy to President James Monroe as well as James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. (The printer, Thomas Ritchie, was bonded. He was required to be extremely accurate in his research and his printing, or he would forfeit his bond.) In this fashion, Virginia announced the ratification: by publication and dissemination of the Thirteenth Amendment of the Constitution. There is question as to whether Virginia ever formally notified the Secretary of State that they had ratified this 13th Amendment. Some have argued that because such notification was not received (or at least, not recorded), the Amendment was therefore not legally ratified. However, printing by a legislature is prima facie evidence of ratification. Further, there is no Constitutional requirement that the Secretary of State, or anyone else, be officially notified to complete the ratification process. The Constitution only requires that three-fourths of the states ratify for an Amendment to be added to the Constitution. If three-quarters of the states ratify, the Amendment is passed. Period. The Constitution is otherwise silent on what procedure should be used to announce, confirm, or communicate the ratification of amendments. Knowing they were the last state necessary to ratify the Amendment, the Virginians had every right announce their own and the nation's ratification of the Amendment by publishing it on a special edition of the Constitution, and so they did. Word of Virginia's 1819 ratification spread throughout the States and both Rhode Island and Kentucky published the new Amendment in 1822. Ohio first published in 1824. Main ordered 10,000 copies of the Constitution with the 13th Amendment to be printed for use in the schools in 1825, and again in 1831 for their Census Edition. Indiana Revised Laws of 1831 published the 13th Article on p. 20. Northwestern Territories published in 1833. Ohio published in 1831 and 1833. Then came the Wisconsin Territory in 1839; Iowa Territory in 1843; Ohio again, in 1848; Kansas Statutes in 1855; and Nebraska Territory six times in a row from 1855 to 1860. So far, David Dodge has identified eleven different states or territories that printed the Amendment in twenty separate publications over forty-one years. And more editions including this 13th Amendment are sure to be discovered. Clearly, Dodge is onto something. You might be able to convince some of the people, or maybe even all of them, for a little while, that this 13th Amendment was never ratified. Maybe you can show them that the ten legislatures which ordered it published eighteen times we've discovered (so far) consisted of ignorant politicians who don't know their amendments from their ... ahh, articles. You might even be able to convince the public that our forefathers never meant to "outlaw" public servants who pushed people around, accepted bribes or special favors to "look the other way." Maybe. But before you do, there's an awful lot of evidence to be explained. --- [13] - THE AMENDMENT DISAPPEARS In 1829, the following note appears on p. 23, Vol. 1 of the New York Revised Statutes: "In the edition of the Laws of the U.S. before referred to, there is an amendment printed as article 13, prohibiting citizens from accepting titles of nobility or honor, or presents, offices, &c. from foreign nations. But, by a message of the president of the United States of the 4th of February, 1818, in answer to a resolution of the house of representatives, it appears that this amendment had been ratified only by 12 states, and therefore had not been adopted. See Vol. IV of the printed papers of the 1st session of the 15th congress, No. 76." In 1854, a similar note appeared in the Oregon Statutes. Both notes refer to the Laws of the United States, 1st vol. p. 73 (or 74). It's not yet clear whether the 13th Amendment was published in Laws of the United States, 1st Vol., prematurely, by accident, in anticipation of Virginia's ratification, or as part of a plot to discredit the Amendment by making is appear that only twelve States had ratified. Whether the Laws of the Un
[CTRL] more on Wackenhut (pt. 2)
-Caveat Lector- Re: The WACKENHUT Corporation === From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nessie) Date: Thu 4 Jan 1996 Subject: Fwd(2): more on Wackenhut (pt. 2) PAY YOUR MONEY, TAKE YOUR CHANCE PART 2 OF 2 Lack of proper training has been a Wackenhut trademark for years. The reduction in cost provided by cutting this corner enables Wackenhut to deliver their admittedly reduced services at substantial savings to organizations who value a penny saved over the lives of their employees and customers, and to individuals who put a price on the life of their families. The spate of terrorist attacks against Americans and their allies, during the Gulf War included some pesky snipers in Saudi Arabia. Was the House of Saud safe? According to the Jonathan Littman, the Saudi ruling family negotiated (at least) with Wackenhut over a contract for security at Crown Prince Fahd's palace itself. Whether Wackenhut delivered is not for commoners to know. These negotiations took place by way of the tiny (but sovereign) band of Cabazon Indians in Southern California. The Cabazons have also allegedly fronted for Wackenhut's role in the secret (and illegal) Contra supply scam. Both Wackenhut and the Cabazons prefer the term "joint venture." In 1978 the Cabazons hired a certain John Philip Nichols to manage their finances. This self proclaimed "Doctor of Theology" was reputed to be a "premier" obtainer of grants. Once he had obtained the Cabazons' trust, Nichols began proposing an array of projects involving tank cartridges, laser-sighted assault rifles, portable rocket systems, night vision goggles and, most ominously, biological weapons. Many of these proposals grew out of the tribe's partnership with Wackenhut. The Cabazons' sovereign status, and it's accompanying freedom from costly regulation, enables great ease in the bidding process. "I was present at one meeting where Wackenhut people were present. We were told it was part of the security system on the reservation," said Cabazon Joe Benitez. "Later on, I found out they were working to develop munitions. It seemed amazing to me." It is unclear which, if any, of the deals went through. It is a matter of court record, though, that in 1985, Nichols pleaded no contest to the charge of solicitation to murder. He served 18 months. His son, John Paul, took over as acting administrator of the Cabazons while his father did time. After his release, Nichols was barred by his felony record from running any of the reservation's gambling operations. His brother, Mark, inherited the position of Cabazon administrator. What, if any, role Wackenhut plays in Cabazon life today is unclear. Wackenhut denies any. "It turned out that we never got any contracts and, after two years, the venture was canceled," claims director of public relations, Patrick Cannan (1-305-666-5656). Cannan also denied any connection with the so-called "Inslaw case." Wackenhut's name has come up consistently in relation to claims made by Michael Riconoscuito that while a research director for a joint venture between Wackenhut and the Cabazon Indians, he modified a stolen copy of Inslaw's PROMIS software for sale by Earl Brian to the Canadian government. Brian is a crony of Reagan's Attorney General, Edwin Meese. Meese is best known as gutter of the Fourth Amendment, and Wedtech scandal principal. Another former US Attorney, General Elliot Richardson, is the attorney for Inslaw. He has been quoted as saying that Inslaw "is far worse than Watergate." In fact, the Inslaw case does make Watergate look like a small town parking ticket fix. The press has barely scraped the surface of this most sordid of scandals, and not without reason. Among the few honest journalists to poke a nose in this nest of hornets and live to tell the tale is Jonathan Littman. According to Littman, Riconoscuito was a "consultant" for Wackenhut. According to Patrick Cannan, Riconoscuito. was a "hanger on." Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The Inslaw case stems from the alleged theft of software by the Justice Dept. from the Inslaw Corp. It has grown from a title and bankruptcy case into one that includes allegations of sales of the software to foreign governments (such as Canada, Iraq, South Korea, Libya and Israel) by such Iran-Contra figures as Robert McFarlane and Richard Secord. The case attracted more public attention following the apparent suicide death of journalist Joseph D. "Danny" Casolaro on mid-August in a Martinsburg W. Va. motel room. Casolaro had told friends that he had made connections between Inslaw, Iran-Contra and the so-called "October Surprise." (allegations that representatives of the Reagan-Bush campaign team, headed by Casey, had convinced the Iranian government to delay release of American hostages until after the 1980 U.S. elections) Casolaro also allegedly told his bro
[CTRL] WACKENHUT - INSIDE THE SHADOW CIA
-Caveat Lector- Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy From: David P Beiter Date: Tue, 12 DEC 95 Subject: The Wackenhut Corporation INSIDE THE SHADOW CIA === by John Connolly SPY Magazine - Sept 1992 - Volume 6 What? A big private company - one with a board of former CIA, FBI and Pentagon officials; one in charge of protecting Nuclear-Weapons facilities, nuclear reactors, the Alaskan oil pipeline and more than a dozen American embassies abroad; one with long-standing ties to a radical ring-wing organization; one with 30,000 men and women under arms - secretly helped IRAQ in its effort to obtain sophisticated weapons? And fueled unrest in Venezuela? This is all the plot of a new best-selling thriller, right? Or the ravings of some overheated conspiracy buff,right? Right? WRONG. -- In the WINTER OF 1990, David Ramirez, a 24 year-old member of the Special Investigations Division of the Wackenhut Corporation, was sent by his superiors on an unusual mission. Ramirez a former Marine Corps sergeant based in Miami, was told to fly immediately to San Antonio along with three other members of SID-a unit, known as founder and chairman George Wackenhut's "private FBI," that provided executive protection and conducted undercover investigations and sting operations. Once they arrived, they rented two gray Ford Tauruses and drove four hours to a desolate town on the Mexican border called Eagle Pass. There, just after dark, they met two truck drivers who had been flown in from Houston. Inside a nearby warehouse was an 18 -wheel tractor-trailer, which the two truck drivers and the four Wackenhut agents in their rented cars were supposed to transport to Chicago. "My instructions were very clear," Ramirez recalls. "Do not look into the trailer, secure it, and make sure it safely gets to Chicago." It went without saying that no one else was supposed to look in the trailer, either, which is why the Wackenhut men were armed with fully loaded Remington 870 pump-action shotguns. The convoy drove for 30 hours straight, stopping only for gas and food. Even then, one of the Wackenhut agents had to stay with the truck, standing by one of the cars, its trunk open, shotgun within easy reach. "Whenever we stopped, I bought a shot glass with the name of the town on it," Ramirez recalls. "I have glasses from Oklahoma City, Kansas City, St. Louis." A little before 5:00 on the morning of the third day, they delivered the trailer to a practically empty warehouse outside Chicago. A burly man who had been waiting for them on the loading dock told them to take off the locks and go home, and that was that. They were on a plane back to Miami that afternoon. Later Ramirez's superiors told him-as they told other SID agents about similar midnight runs-that the trucks contained $40 million worth of food stamps. After considering the secrecy, the way the team was assembled and the orders not to stop or open the truck, Ramirez decided he didn't believe that explanation. Neither do we. One reason is simple: A Department of Agriculture official simply denies that food stamps are shipped that way. "Someone is blowing smoke," he says. Another reason is that after a six-month investigation, in the course of which we spoke to more than 300 people, we believe we know what the truck did contain-equipment necessary for the manufacture of chemical weapons-and where it was headed: to Saddam Hussein's Iraq. And the Wackenhut Corporation-a publicly traded company with strong ties to the CIA and federal contracts worth $200 million a year-was making sure Saddam would be geting his equipment intact. The question is why. In 1954, George Wackenhut, then a 34-year old former FBI agent, joined up with three other former FBI agents to open a company in Miami called Special Agent Investigators Inc. The partnership was neither successful nor harmonious-George once knocked partner Ed Dubois unconscious to end a disagreement over the direction the company would take-and in 1958, George bought out his partners. However capable Wackenhut's detectives may have been at their work, George Wackenhut had two personal attributes that were instrumental in the company's growth. First, he got along exceptionally well with important politicians. He was a close ally of Florida governor Claude Kirk, who hired him to combat organized crime in the state; and was also friends with Senator George Smathers, an intimate of John F. Kennedy's. It was Smathers who provided Wackenhut with his big break when the senator's law firm helped the company find a loophole in the Pinkerton law, the 1893 federal statute that had made it a crime for an employee of a private detective agency to do work for the government. Smathers's firm set up a wholly owned subsidiary of Wackenhut that provided only guards, not detectives. Shortly ther
[CTRL] more on Wackenhut (pt. 1)
-Caveat Lector- Re: The WACKENHUT Corporation === From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nessie) Date: Thu 4 Jan 1996 Subject: Fwd(2): more on Wackenhut (pt. 1) This originally appeared on the WELL: PAY YOUR MONEY, TAKE YOUR CHANCE PART 1 OF 2 PARTS As long as we refuse to protect ourselves and each other, we are at the mercy of a legal system whose very business is crime, and a lucrative business it is. By this point in history, all but the most naive of us have stopped expecting cops, public or private, to all behave like Boy Scouts. There has been simply too much hard evidence to the contrary. In that murky gray zone where law enforcement overlaps with organized crime, an underground empire has arisen. It is a world where the so-called "War on Drugs" is often a war on rival drug dealers, and always a war on the poor. It is a world where "national security," excuses war crimes and genocide is a commodity. It is a world where justice is for sale and cops are for rent. Cops, rent-a-cops in particular, vary widely in quality. A family business, Wackenhut Corp. was founded in 1954 by a one time FBI man George R. Wackenhut. His son Richard, a Citadel graduate, is president and CEO. The immediate family hold over 50% of the stock The rest is divided among just 1100 stockholders. Wackenhut stock is traded on the New York Stock exchange. Buy a share, and you will receive a fascinating brochure. The company's revenue has grown from just $300,000 in 1958 to nearly half a billion today. It is one of the largest private security firms in existence. Wackenhut specializes in security contracts. Government contracts are best, of course, and the company's remarkable growth is due on no small part to George Wackenhut's relationship to certain government officials. His first big break came when he secured a contract to watch over Titan missile sites in four states. Since then, security and public safety functions have proven a lucrative focus. Wackenhut provides security guards for such high-risk installations as the trans-Alaska pipelines, major airports both in the United States and abroad, dams and the nuclear test site in Nevada. It also owns a casualty reinsurance firm, a travel service, and an airline services company. The Department of energy provides 25% of Wackenhut's total gross. Their operatives also serve friends of the U. S. Govt. and Big Oil (like the fugitive Shah of Iran), abroad as well as at home. Wackenhut personnel guard the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve Sites in Louisiana and Texas. From time to time, they can be seen around the complexes, dodging alligators, and exchanging laser gunfire with soldiers, local police and sheriff's deputies. This is just practice to prepare for real trouble, such as terrorists. Wackenhut touts it's supposed anti-terrorist expertise. James*P.*Davis, who manages the site for government contractor Boeing, declares: "I pity anybody who tries to invade here. It would be tougher than Fort Knox." That is arguable. The government itself concedes that the security could be beefed up. But the analogy to Fort Knox is fitting. There is gold here, too, only it's black. Never forget the Golden Rule: "Gold rules." Wackenhut often recruits ex-police and military men who don't require a fresh background check. Cutting this corner (at $30,000 to $40,000 apiece) has allowed the employment of a number of unsavory characters, including infamous navy spy John Walker. When Wackenhut operatives were caught recently in the public spotlight by court allegations of illegal surveillance, Associated Press reports that they were staunchly defended by their employer in the case, the president of Alyeska Pipeline Service Co., James B. Hermiller. Alyeska is a consortium of seven oil companies including Exxon Corp., owners of the Exxon Valdez. They are also long time Wackenhut clients. During the spill, industry security mounted an armed "bear patrol" to "keep grizzlies from rolling in the contaminated sand." They kept potential witness from the spill scene. Alyeska lies about clean up. State studies have confirmed that contaminants -- including carcinogens such as benzene and toxic materials such as heavy metals -- are ending up in the waters and sediments of Port Valdez. Happy dining, crab lovers. Alyeska also lies about the carcinogen content of the atmospheric pollution they inflict on their neighbors. Breath deep, Valdez. Few of it's victims are any longer surprised that Big Oil lies. Internal documents to that effect (and worse) were leaked by Aleyska employees to long time industry gad-fly, professional tanker broker Charles Hamel The whistle blowing employees were afraid to let their names be used. Charley Hamel was not. At least one regulatory action, a $20,000 fine proposed by the EPA in August, 1992 against Alyeska for illegal waste-water dum
[CTRL] ACLU homo cancer cell spreads to N.J. Boy Scouts
-Caveat Lector- New Jersey High Court Says Ban on Gays in Boy Scouts Must Go FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, August 4, 1999 TRENTON, NJ -- In a unanimous decision, the New Jersey Supreme Court today said that the Boy Scouts of America's practice of excluding or dismissing a member solely on the basis of sexual orientation is illegal under the state's anti-discrimination law. The Court also rejected the Scouts' claim that the First Amendment gives them the right to discriminate. The American Civil Liberties Union, which filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the case, hailed the decision as a tremendous victory for lesbian and gay rights. The ruling upholds a March 1998 state appeals court decision that prohibited the Boy Scouts from banning gay members. "This decision debunks the notion that just because someone is gay means he or she is unfit to serve in the Boy Scouts or any other civic group for that matter," said Lenora Lapidus, Legal Director of the ACLU of New Jersey. "The Court did the right thing in denying the Scouts' claim that the First Amendment gives them the right to discriminate. People have the right to believe what they want, but that is no more a justification for discrimination now than it was in the South 40 years ago." The case arose in 1990 after James Dale, a Matawan assistant Scoutmaster, was ousted from the Boy Scouts when leaders discovered he was gay. Prior to his expulsion, Dale, an Eagle Scout, had risen successfully through the ranks and earned 30 merit badges and other awards during his 12 years in the organization. "Goverments and local charities have been increasingly unwilling to fund and sponsor Scout programs because the Scouts insist on discriminating," said Matthew Coles, Director of the ACLU's National Lesbian and Gay Rights Project. "This decision is bound to accellerate the trend against anti-gay policies." The court ruled that because the Boy Scouts of America are "places of public accommodation" that "emphasize open membership," they must adhere to New Jersey's anti-discrimination law and cannot deny any person "accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges" because of sexual orientation. While the Boy Scouts vowed to appeal today's ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court, the ACLU's Coles expressed doubt that they would hear the case. "The Court rejected a very similar argument that the United States Jaycees, a business association, made to justify excluding women," Coles said. "That was 15 years ago, and the Court ruled unanimously. I doubt they would revisit the issue now." Today is not the first time the ACLU has taken legal action to halt unfair practices of the Boy Scouts. In May 1998, the ACLU blocked an Oregon school district from actively recruiting Cub Scouts since they are required by the Boy Scouts of America to refuse membership to boys who do not "profess a belief in God, recognize an obligation to God and declare a duty to God." For similar reasons, this past April, the ACLU sued to end government sponsorship of Boy Scout programs in Illinois because they violated the constitutional requirement of separation of church and state. The ACLU has been involved in other challenges to Boy Scout bans in California and Washington, DC. http://www.aclu.org/news/1999/n080499c.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] attack dog ACLU routs homophobics [homo/hetero boy scouts of america]
-Caveat Lector- Folks, It's all part and parcel of the socialist takeover of America. It will be real interesting to see how this affects BSA membership: ACLU of Illinois Lauds Court Ruling That Boy Scouts Cannot Discriminate Based on Sexual Orientation FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, August 13, 1999 CHICAGO -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois today hailed a Cook County Circuit Court decision barring the Boy Scouts from considering the sexual orientation of applicants in employment decisions. The decision in the Chicago case comes on the heels of a recent New Jersey Supreme Court decision rejecting the Boy Scouts' anti-gay policies in that state. In Dale v. Boy Scouts of America, the New Jersey high court declared that the Boy Scouts held themselves out as open to the public and were, therefore, subject to state anti-discrimination laws. The Cook County court is equally direct in its assessment that, for the Boy Scouts, "the mere sexual orientation of an employee... is not related to any nondiscriminatory basis for denying opportunities for employment." "When this ruling is considered in the context of the Dale decision last week, the courts' collective message to the Boy Scouts is powerful, clear and unmistakable," said Roger Leishman, Director of the ACLU/Roger Baldwin Foundation Gay and Lesbian Rights/AIDS and Civil Liberties Project. "The courts will no longer tolerate the Boy Scouts discriminatory practices based on sexual orientation," he said. "It is time for the Boy Scouts to bring a voluntary end to these practices and to embrace the most important values we can share with young people -- tolerance and inclusion." The case, Chicago Area Council of Boy Scouts of America v. City of Chicago Commission on Human Relations and G. Keith Richardson, was argued by staff attorneys of the ACLU of Illinois on behalf of Richardson, a former Eagle Scout who was denied consideration for employment by the local Boy Scouts in 1992. The decision by Judge Stephen A. Schiller forces an end to the Scouts' practice of discrimination in employment based on sexual orientation, and prohibits the Scouts from publishing and distributing any materials within the City of Chicago that indicate any discriminatory criteria for employment. In addition, the court's ruling supports a central argument articulated by the ACLU -- namely, that an individual's sexual orientation has no bearing on their ability to accomplish successfully the duties of any job. The court specifically ruled that the discrimination against Richardson by the Boy Scouts was particularly grievous because of the very public, inclusive nature of the organization. The Circuit Court and the City of Chicago Commission on Human Rights specially noted that the Boy Scouts have a strong tradition of tolerating and including a wide range of religious and moral viewpoints within their membership and among their sponsoring organizations. Discrimination in employment based on sexual orientation, the court found, is antithetical to this long tradition and practice of inclusion and tolerance. "I am personally thankful for the judge's ruling," said Keith Richardson, who became an Eagle Scout in 1974. "It should be pointed out, however, that this decision is broader and encompasses more than my own efforts to gain employment with the Boy Scouts," he noted. "It is a signal that, from now on, all people -- regardless of their sexual orientation -- will have an equal opportunity to continue their participation in Scouting through employment. My hope is that the result will be a more tolerant, more inclusive and stronger Boy Scouts of America." Volunteer attorneys Charles H.R. Peters of Schiff, Hardin & Waite, Chicago, and Ms. Ann Rae Heitland of Flagstaff, Ariz., assisted the ACLU in this case. http://www.aclu.org/news/1999/n081399b.html --- ... "relationships" ... Source: Media Bypass, June 1999, page 19 (The Uncensored National News) Bonacci"s Story-- One of the most heart-rendering parts of the court transcript is the testimony of Paul A. Bonacci, the mind-control victim survivor, on whose behalf DeCamp sued Lawrence E. King. Bonacci testified that King took him on many trips to Washington, D.C., Kansas City, Chicago, Minnnesota and Los Angeles, where he prostituted the kidnapped and drugged youngster to the rich and famous -- and depraved. Bonacci said that "one person I'm not afraid to talk about because Larry King always said him and this guy were on opposite ends of the field because this guy was a Democrat and Larry King was a Republican ... And this guy -- every time I see him on TV, my wife knows my hatred for him ... His name is Barney Frank." When asked if he had "relationships" with him, Bonacci replied, "In Washington, D.C. And also I was sent to a house, I believe it was in Massachusetts in Boston where I believe it was his house because there's pi
Re: [CTRL] cult mind control
-Caveat Lector- Below please find part of an article I wrote several years ago. The full article is available at : http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-08.htm Sincerely, Neil Brick This may be triggering for survivors of abuse. Cults Here is my summary of the 10 themes of cult membership Steven Hassan listed in his book "Combatting Cult Mind Control" (Chapter 5) from Park Street Press, Rochester, VT. Hassan joined the "Moonies" as an adult. Hassan's book doesn't discuss gov't MC or RA. 1) The Doctrine is Reality - The cult's beliefs allow no interpretation, or opposing views to be valid. 2) Reality is Black and White, Good Versus Evil - no outside group is valid, "no room for interpretation or deviation" 3) Elitist Mentality - they are the chosen ones. 4) Group Will Over Individual Will -"the self must submit to the group "individuality is bad" "conformity is good" 5) Strict Obedience: Modeling the Leader - the leader is imitated by everyone 6) Happiness through good performance - behaviors are controlled by shaming, competition, friendships are discouraged 7) Manipulation through fear - "each group has its devil... around the corner waiting" to kill you or whatever 8) Emotional highs and lows - from great productivity to crashing (always due to the individual's inadequacies, according to the cult) 9) Changes in Time Orientation - pre-cult life is bad, the present is crucial (pressure to meet quotas, etc.) the future is known by the leader, reward or punishment, the world will end, etc. 10) No Way Out - "there is never a legitimate reason for leaving" Cults also use "love bombing," lots of flattery early on to "suck people in." This disappears later once a person is in deeper. Some differences (mine) between cults that ritually abuse and those that don't are: with ritual abuse, there is no "love bombing," though praise may be used when a ritual is performed correctly. Torture is often used to control peoples' minds. This allows suggestions to enter the mind causing MPD (now DID). During ritual abuse suggestions are planted in alternate personalities. A person in the cult can work a day job and even have a different day time belief system than the night one. Hassan's book also explains how to recognize and avoid cults and how to help exit counsel people that are in cults. Cults will usually be dishonest. They won't tell a prospective member what will happen later (a hidden agenda). The ends will often justify the means. One way to avoid cults is to always question what a group is saying to you, be a smart consumer and don't accept absolute theories. Remember, don't replace one cult with another. If you grew up in a cult avoid others. Also, allow survivors to choose their own spirituality. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Furrow--LA Shootings/Excellent analysis from Chamish
Subject: LA Shootings - Good Analysis Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:38:25 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: barry chamish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = I smelled very old fish when I first heard the news and do believe this to be an accurate summation. We must remember always that: #1 They want our guns. #2 They will do ANYTHING to confiscate them. Many people are probably scratching [their] head over the recent shootings in the LA areas, especially when the suspect, Buford O'neil Furrow arrived in a neat little package on the doorsteps of the FBI Las Vegas. You are not alone in your bewilderment. 1. Early Reports. Yes, you probably heard numerous accounts of more than one shooter, different clothing, etc. I don't think there was too much dis-info there. After all, early reports came from young children. Once the carjacking occurred, a more accurate description came forward. 2. Early statements by Politicians. People such as Charles Shummer, Gov. Gray Davis, Mayor Richard Rearden (sp?) the ADL, and the JDL were all screaming hate crime before ANYONE had a motive or an actual description of the suspect. 3. The FBI and ATF were on the scene immediately long before the Clinton spoke ! Like Columbine, SWAT agents just stood outside until long after the postal worker was killed. Not to mention reports about other people (with other descriptions) being arrested shortly after. 4. The Carjacking. Forgive me, but it seems stupid to think that some idiot (and alleged survivalist) hell-bent on killing Jews left all that ammo in a van. No survivalist would do that without a reason. IMPORTANT: If Furrow really wanted to kill Jews in mass number, he had all the ammo he needed. He was also in a neighborhood where there were plenty of visible Jewish targets. And why allow the female carjack victim to live? According to reports, he brandished a weapon, told her to get out, don't scream, and just run. Let's no mention the fact that he fired a reported 70 rounds with a semi-automatic weapon at children less than 15 feet away in a closed area and killed no one [ AND KILLED NO ONE ! ], only superficial wounds. This, from a man with a military background. Hmmm. 5. The Postal Worker. After all, something HAD to happen to make it federal. When over half the LA county police force (that's a lot of people, folks) had closed the entire area off in search of any angry looking white guy, Furrow finds time to stop and off a postal worker during his escape. Not to be a certified conspiracy theorist, but think back to the Kennedy Assassination. 6. The APB. Within 4 hours after the attack on the Jewish Center, every radio station in the LA area was giving out several (yes, I mean several) descriptions of a carjacked vehicle -- two different license plate numbers, and three different colors. I even considered calling a news-talk radio station while stuck in traffic in I-605 asking, What the hell do you want us to look for??. Shouldn't the carjack [victim] know what her car looks like? 7. The Hotel Siege. See if this sounds familiar to you: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. In Chatsworth, CA, throw that out the window. A virtual battalion of black suited armor wearing, helmet wearing troops laid siege to this entire LA suburb. The dress code: All black (with federal stuffed shirts playing team leaders), black tanks (LAPD's finest) choppers, the whole nine yards. THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE COULD HAVE ESCAPED THIS unless [they had] help. Yet, no dice. 8. The Photo. After having MAJOR egg on their faces, the LAPD spokesman (someone I've never seen before, but no matter, he's Jewish) asks for the public's help in finding Mr. Furrow. TAKE NOTE: At this time, there is so much victimization, and wailing, and whining by the Jewish leadership in the local media that local politicians were probably concerned about a mass exodus to Israel from LAX. Back to the photo: It wasn't a mug shot. I remember saying when I first saw the photo (live), That looks like either a work ID or some kind of government issue. It only took 30 minutes for the media to have enough info on Furrow to fill a CIA dossier. Good job, Media especially when you didn't have a SSN to work from. Oh yeah, and the Southern Poverty Law Center JUST HAPPENS to have a photo of Furrow playing security at an Aryan Nation Complex Idaho. How convenient. Beside that photo came from the same fat guy from Michigan who did the Roger and Me film (this video came from a show called TV Nation). I can't remember his name. No matter. Let's all go to bed now, and see what we can scare up by morning. 9. The $800 cab ride. This is where my personal experience comes in. Uh, cabbie, take me to Las Vegas or Primm Ne
[CTRL] Does Your ISP and LongDistanceCarrier Support 2ndAmend.?
-Caveat Lector- The reason I ask this question is because I found out that my former ISP and long-distance voice provider is working against my interests by their support for Gun Control. Also, I read in the current issue of the Middle American News that ATT and other big thugs are supporting a new public school program, Tolerance of Differences. This program is also supported by the Human Rights Campaign, which is a front group for the advancement of Homosexual Agenda. You people can do your Duty and find out where your Providers stand on these issues. Give them a call and talk to their Public Affairs spokesman and ask them, straight-out, whether or not they are supporting Gun Control, and/or the Homosexual Agenda. By going to the following Website you can find all the Providers that service your Area Code, in case you find you want to make a change: THE LIST http://thelist.internet.com/ Personally I changed my ISP from worldnet.att.net to accessearth.net, a large ISP out of Henderson, Nevada; I live in Downey, California. For my long-distance voice service and my designated computer line I changed from ATT to LifeLine, 1-800-800-7550. LifeLine also provides ISP service. http://www.ifriendly.com The Rights of Man come from God, and those Powers granted to the Government come from the People; and those Powers NOT granted to the Government are retained by the People. (did God grant a woman the Right to refuse a gift from God? Woe to the Socialists and their Culture of Death. Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] gennifer drags rapist klintoon into Drug Row.[media lords chase their tails]
-Caveat Lector- Interesting how Clinton has been SO useful in advancing NWO agendas while never having to answer serious stuff (just like this cocaine allegation just doesn't amount to a hill of BEANS in comparison to other stuff) like the China-gate / Whitewater / Mena cocaine import / bodycount/ and SO MANY DAZZLINGLY severe criminal allegations... so many that congress seems dumbfounded.. while the press sells blowjobs as the important issue ... and now we see a hint of British journalistic spin beginning to seek to take focus OFF of the NWO heir-annointed Bush jr., and re-fasten it on Clinton's PERSONAL difficulties - as opposed to INCREDIBLY VAST crimes of State. This administration will be famous for performing the great blowjob snowjob... while transferring a couple of DECADES worth of Military intelligence to China free of charge -'cept for a few campaign contributions... Watch carefully now as the NWO hand never leaves it's arm ... and see how British VIP- politicoes and press will rally 'round Bush as the baton is passed... (wonder if he's got a private pilot's license) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Globalist Agendas Debate and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bard Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gennifer drags rapist klintoon into Drug Row.[media lords chase their tails] http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/22/113629 Sunday August 22, 12:45 PM Brits Headline Clinton Coke Charge For most of America's mainstream press, reporting on Gennifer Flowers' charge that President Clinton once offered her cocaine is strictly verboten. But in Britain, reporters know a bombshell when they see one -- and they're not afraid to inform their public about it. Inside Cover was the very first to pose the Clinton coke question to Flowers during her August 6 appearance on Sean Hannity's New York radio show. This past Wednesday Hannity put Flowers on TV, where she repeated the charge on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes." While American reporters continued to chase their tails over completely unsubstantiated rumors that George W. Bush may have used cocaine as a youth, the London Times noticed that a sitting U.S. President had been hit with a coke allegation from a witness whose credibility has been vindicated in spades. Headlining their report, "Former Lover Drags Clinton into Drug Row," the Times reported on Saturday: "The Republican presidential contender George W. Bush was struggling to contain a fresh flood of questions over possible drug use in his youth yesterday as President Clinton was dragged into the dispute by allegations that he had taken cocaine. Gennifer Flowers, who had an affair with Mr. Clinton that he initially denied, said she saw him smoking marijuana when he was governor of Arkansas and that he had offered to obtain cocaine for her." The London Times quoted Flowers directly: "'He made it very clear that, if I ever wanted to do cocaine, he could provide that,' Ms. Flowers told Fox News. 'I clearly knew that Bill did cocaine,' she added." With rare exception, America's mainstream press has attempted to keep the Clinton coke charge secret. Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Fox on-air personality told Inside Cover, "It's scary the way Gennifer Flowers has been kept off the air." Two weeks ago, a tape of Inside Cover's Aug. 6 interrogation of Flowers was shared with the Washington Post, which has thus far declined to report the Clinton coke charge. Late last week, the same recording was shared with investigative reporters for two other major American dailies. On Friday the New York Post mentioned only briefly that America's President has been hit with a credible cocaine allegation, tagging the news onto yet another story about the unsourced Bush drug rumors. The second newspaper has yet to go to press since being provided with the Flowers' tape. Fox News Sunday's Tony Snow has reported Flowers' charge twice, re-running tape of her exchange with Hannity on Brit Hume's Thursday night FNC newscast and on his own regular Sunday morning broadcast. All other major American news outlets have embargoed news that the President of the United States has been hit with serious allegations from a highly credible witness that he abused cocaine while chief law enforcement officer of Arkansas. Read Inside Cover's groundbreaking exclusives on Gennifer Flowers' Clinton coke charges: Gennifer Flowers: 'Clinton Offered Me Cocaine' Flowers Says Bill Told Her about Hillary Flowers Stands by Clinton Coke, Sex Charges on Nat'l TV Clinton Drug Accuser Set for Prison Release http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/22/113629 Bard DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid mat
[CTRL] Fwd: Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
-Caveat Lector-
FWD: [is this really what we are up against? strategy of the "enemy"?]-dcw
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357/silent.html
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
Top Secret Confidential
Preface
Conspiracy theories are nothing new to history. Plots to kill Caesar and
overthrow Rome abounded, for instance. However, it is seldom that concrete
clues to such plots come to light, and are generally known.
The document you are about to read is real. It is no forgery, as alleged of
"The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." or actual forgeries such as
those of Anne Frank, or (more recently) Hitler's diary.
"TOP SECRET: Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, An introductory Programming
Manual" was uncovered quite by accident on July 7th, 1986 when an employee
of Boeing Aircraft Co. purchased a surplus IBM copier for scrap parts at a
sale, and discovered inside details of a plan, hatched in embryonic days of
the "Cold War" which called for control of the masses through manipulation
of Industry, peoples' pastimes, education and political learning's. It
called for a quite revolution, putting brother against brother, and
diverting the public's attention from what is really going on.
For all intents and purposes, this document has "come to pass," much as
Henry Ford, Sr. said the Protocols (regardless of their veracity) applied to
the events of his day.
It is reprinted in its virgin form, with diagrams, as a touch of reality.
{Note; I removed the diagrams for reasons of ease of getting the information
onto the internet.}
It is heavy reading, but it will (as it well should) spur you to read
further, keep your eyes and ears open, and sound an alarm in Zion, for
though she presently dwells with Babylon's daughter (Micah 4), her
redemption draweth nigh.
Truth bears no fear.
--- TOP SECRET ---
SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUITE WARS
An introductory programing manual.
OPERATORS RESEARCH TECHNICAL MANUAL
TM-SW7905.1
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Security
Historical Introduction
Political Introduction
Energy
Descriptive Introduction of the Silent Weapon
Theoretical Introduction/Quote Rothschild
General Energy Concepts
Mr. Rothschild's Energy Discovery
Breakthrough
The Economical Model
Industrial Diagrams
Three Industrial Classes
The E-Model
Economic Inductance
Translation
Time Flow Relationships
Industry Equivalent Circuits
Stages of Schematic Simplification
Generalization
Final Bill of Goods
The Technical Coefficients
The Household Industry
Household Models
Economic Shock Testing
Introduction to the Theory of Shock Testing
Example of Shock Testing
Introduction to Economic Amplifiers
Short List of Inputs
Short List of Outputs
Table of Strategies
Diversion, The Primary Strategy
Consent, The Primary Victory
Amplification Energy Sources
Logistics
The Artificial Womb
The Political Structure of a Nation
Action/Offense, Responsibility
System Analysis
The Draft, analysis of
SECURITY
It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of
a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent
weapons) on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive
objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery
and genocide.
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing
must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a
technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any
person or group of persons in a position of great power, and without the
full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and
methodology for economic conquest -- must be understood that a state of
domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the
public.
The solution of today's problems requires an approach which is ruthlessly
candid, with no agonizing over religious, moral, or cultural values.
You have qualified for this project because of your ability to look at human
society with cold objectivity, and yet analyze and discuss your observations
and conclusions with others of similar intellectual capacity without a lose
of discretion or humility.
Such virtues are exercised in your own best interest.
Do not deviate from them.
WELCOME ABOARD
This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the Third World War, called
the "Quite War", being conducted using subjective biological warfare, fought
with 'silent weapons'.
This book contains an introductory description of this war, its strategies,
and its weaponry.
May 1979 #74-1120
HISTORICAL INTRODUCTION
Silent weapon technology has evolved from Operations Research (O.R.), a
strategic and tactical methodology developed under the military management
in England during World War II. The original purpose of Operations Research
was to study the strategic and tactical problems of air and land defense
with the objective of effective use of limited military resources against
foreign enemies (i.e. logistics).
It was soon
[CTRL] gennifer drags rapist klintoon into Drug Row.[media lords chase their tails]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/22/113629 Sunday August 22, 12:45 PM Brits Headline Clinton Coke Charge For most of America's mainstream press, reporting on Gennifer Flowers' charge that President Clinton once offered her cocaine is strictly verboten. But in Britain, reporters know a bombshell when they see one -- and they're not afraid to inform their public about it. Inside Cover was the very first to pose the Clinton coke question to Flowers during her August 6 appearance on Sean Hannity's New York radio show. This past Wednesday Hannity put Flowers on TV, where she repeated the charge on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes." While American reporters continued to chase their tails over completely unsubstantiated rumors that George W. Bush may have used cocaine as a youth, the London Times noticed that a sitting U.S. President had been hit with a coke allegation from a witness whose credibility has been vindicated in spades. Headlining their report, "Former Lover Drags Clinton into Drug Row," the Times reported on Saturday: "The Republican presidential contender George W. Bush was struggling to contain a fresh flood of questions over possible drug use in his youth yesterday as President Clinton was dragged into the dispute by allegations that he had taken cocaine. Gennifer Flowers, who had an affair with Mr. Clinton that he initially denied, said she saw him smoking marijuana when he was governor of Arkansas and that he had offered to obtain cocaine for her." The London Times quoted Flowers directly: "'He made it very clear that, if I ever wanted to do cocaine, he could provide that,' Ms. Flowers told Fox News. 'I clearly knew that Bill did cocaine,' she added." With rare exception, America's mainstream press has attempted to keep the Clinton coke charge secret. Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Fox on-air personality told Inside Cover, "It's scary the way Gennifer Flowers has been kept off the air." Two weeks ago, a tape of Inside Cover's Aug. 6 interrogation of Flowers was shared with the Washington Post, which has thus far declined to report the Clinton coke charge. Late last week, the same recording was shared with investigative reporters for two other major American dailies. On Friday the New York Post mentioned only briefly that America's President has been hit with a credible cocaine allegation, tagging the news onto yet another story about the unsourced Bush drug rumors. The second newspaper has yet to go to press since being provided with the Flowers' tape. Fox News Sunday's Tony Snow has reported Flowers' charge twice, re-running tape of her exchange with Hannity on Brit Hume's Thursday night FNC newscast and on his own regular Sunday morning broadcast. All other major American news outlets have embargoed news that the President of the United States has been hit with serious allegations from a highly credible witness that he abused cocaine while chief law enforcement officer of Arkansas. Read Inside Cover's groundbreaking exclusives on Gennifer Flowers' Clinton coke charges: Gennifer Flowers: 'Clinton Offered Me Cocaine' Flowers Says Bill Told Her about Hillary Flowers Stands by Clinton Coke, Sex Charges on Nat'l TV Clinton Drug Accuser Set for Prison Release http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/8/22/113629 Bard DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [CTRL] British Intelligence and the internet]
-Caveat Lector- Easy as pie, for them with unlimited power. Ever read Neuromancer or any of the CyberPunk sci-fi stuff? Some of it's PRE-internet et voila- here is the 'net they were writing about... the capability of spoofing IP addresses & stuff is even within the reach of some hackers- let ALONE government covert-types with "powerful" access You DO know that the U.S. Department of Defense BUILT the original Internet. ? No big news that project Echelon decodes EVERY bit of internet traffic and passes it through pattern/word recognition software every bit. Telephone too, as far as I know... even fax, 'tis said. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:57 PM To: Dave Subject: [Fwd: [CTRL] British Intelligence and the internet] THIS Andrew Hennessey wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > >Speaking from Paris, Mr Shayler said: "I have a computer on my desk and with > >that computer I have an Internet site. > > > >"Now all I have to do is push a button and I could put state secrets on the > >Internet." > > Sorry, Mr Shayler, but I have to view that idea with great suspicion. > One evening when I was trying to put out a possible solution to the Quantum > Paradox to hundreds of the worlds relativity scientists, I found that my > computer was hanging a lot, and I kept reconnecting, sending mail etc, > but things were going out real slow. > So I decided to phone technical support at easynet. > Lets empty your netscape cache [done that], lets check your dial up settings, > IP number then, I was told to reconnect whilst he hung on to see if it > went. > Well the modem sings its song, connection screen comes up and I log onto > netscape.com. > Sorry Mr hennessey, but you're not connected - but I am, look my clocks > ticking, Hang on he says I'll Ping you, nope, you're not connected, lets > recheck your settings and redial - did that - same again - connected, but > not connected. > Its your lucky night mr hennessey, he says because I'm one of the few tech > people with Core Access - I'll look you up there and see if your IP number > checks out. > What was your IP number he says ?? doesn't seem to be the same one that > you're really dialling - I'll Ping that one and see where it goes ... > Cheltenham, Cambridge and 2 Linux mainframes in London, then you log on. > quote .. 'Should I be talking to you' he says - its ok I say, I'm just > putting out a new kind of particle physics he laughs nervously ... oh > he says, thats odd, my bosses phone is going ... > > I think that mr Shayler is a plant in deep cover ... and I would not take > anything he says as gospel where does his IP number and connection > really go before it gets to us ... and wouldn't he have high enough > clearance to know that he can be locked out ?? given the circumstances I > have just described. > > Andrew Hennessey > > > > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Wackenhut - The Illuminati's SECURITY SYSTEM
-Caveat Lector- an extract from: The Russell Bloodline http://www.islandnet.com/~persewen/russell_bloodline.htm Wackenhut - The Illuminati's SECURITY SYSTEM Russell Trust is the legal corporation that is the Order of the Skull and Bones, financed the creation of a host of security cos. under the Wackenhuts, incl. a Security Service called Wackenhut Corporation. Another part of this is Wackenhut World Technologies, Inc. or WWT Inc. Wackenhut operates worldwide. Their headquarters are in Florida. They have branch offices even in places like Portland, Oregon. Wackenhut handles all Intelligence-related and Super Secret work-classified ULTRA for the U.S. worldwide. They are the ones who guard the UFO bases topside, along with the CIA's Delta Teams, and various MP units, etc. Their branch in Las Vegas provides security for the Groom Lake UFO facility. Las Vega's Review Journal on Fri. 7/26/91, p. A1 & 3A had an article about 3 Wackenhut agents who lost their lives in a helicopter crash near the Groom Lake. The telephone number to Wackenhut World Technologies, connects first through the Russell Trust -- it is 702-646-4406, and it will be answered by the Russell Trust. Wackenhut's board of directors are CIA, FBI Div. 5, NSA, ISA, and NRO officials. The girls who answer the various local Wackenhut Corporation numbers are not in the know about what Wackenhut Wd. Tech. are all about. Their 1-800 # is 929-2431. Their San Reme Ave, Cerel Gabels, FL 33146 # was 305-666-5656. Their local no. here is 256-3996, and one of their local CA # is 714-979-4966. George Russell Wackenhut is their security services executive. He is also the Chrm & Chief Exec. Officer. He worked for the FBI, and is a Christian Scientist. Richard Russell Wackenhut is the President & Chief Oper. Officer. Wackenhut has in the neighborhood of 40,000 employees. . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Dorothy Kilgallen and JFK
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: David Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.journalism,alt.journalism.students,alt.thebird Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Dorothy Kilgallen and JFK >The point to be remembered in any assessment of her evolving skepticism is >that Dorothy [Kilgallen] was open-minded, accessible, and fearless. In this >regard, she was almost unique among heavyweight, establishment journalists >in the United States. What she was publishing has been made tepid by time, >but doubting the official version then verged on apostasy. > >The mindset of her colleague and friend Bob Considine was far more typical. >By March 6, only four months after the assassination and a half-year before >the release of the Warren Report, he denigrated the European press for >"still clutching to the long discredited notion that there was a dark >conspiracy involving JFK's death." He had apparently learned at some point >that Jack Ruby had had the opportunity to shoot Oswald on the day before he >actually did the crime. Using that datum as a kind of sealing wax, he >closed himself hermetically to any and all evidence that challenged the >lone-assassin theory. > >Of the handful of reporters who had the commitment, the clout, the >predisposition, and the intrepidity to go after what the government wanted >withheld, some were frightened. Thayer Waldo of the Fort Worth >Star-Telegram originally furnished to Mark Lane information that Officer >Tippitt, Jack Ruby, and Bernard Weissman (one of the signers of the >notorious black-bordered advertisement that ran in a Dallas newspaper on the >day of Kennedy's fateful visit, charging that the President had abrogated >the Monroe Doctrine and "sold out to Moscow") had met in Ruby's Carousel >Club eight days before the assassination. Waldo would not use the story >himself. Waldo also discovered that the Dallas chief of police had been >surprised by the course finally chosen for the President's motorcade and was >unable to fathom why the procession was instructed to take this more >vulnerable route. Nor did he use this story, though once again he made the >information available to Mark Lane. Thayer Waldo was not minimizing the >significance of his information. On the contrary, he told Lane that if he >published what he knew, "there would be real danger to him [Waldo]." >Dorothy eventually published what Waldo had uncovered but was afraid to run. >--Lee Israel, KILGALLEN, A BIOGRAPHY OF DOROTHY KILGALLEN (New York: >Delacorte Press, 1979) pp. 372-373 > >to be continued... > >"Open-minded, accessible, and fearless." What one of those adjectives >describes any prominent journalist in the United States today? Perhaps they >are just prudent. They have seen what happened to George Polk, Don >Hollenbeck, and Dorothy Kilgallen, and more recently to the less-prominent >Danny Casolaro. > >- >DC Dave >Author of "America's Dreyfus Affair, the Case of the Death of Vincent >Foster" >http://thebird.org/host/dcdave >news:alt.thebird > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Journal of the International Society for Fluoride Research
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fluoride-journal.com/ International Society for Fluoride Research --- FLUORIDE Journal of the International Society for Fluoride Research The International Society for Fluoride Research was founded in 1966 with the purpose of advancement of research and dissemination of knowledge, pertaining to the biological and other effects of fluoride on animal, plant and human life. ISFR publishes quarterly reports in FLUORIDE, on the biological, chemical, ecological, industrial, toxicological and clinical aspects of inorganic and organic fluoride compounds. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: NATO "Peacefarce" Continues
-Caveat Lector- August 26, 1999 NATO "Peacefarce" Continues: Albanians Kill and Plunder Under U.S., British Protection as KFOR Arrests Three Serbs PRISTINA, Aug. 25 - Daily dispatches we have been getting from the Serbian Orthodox Church and other sources in Kosovo since NATO occupied this former Serbian province have been tragically, and almost monotonously similar. So-and-so and so-and-so were killed last night by Albanians. This and that Serb church was burnt down or demolished. Residents of such-and-such village have fled Kosovo, complaining that the KFOR troops did little if anything to protect them from marauding Albanians. So many stories; so much crime; so little compassion, not to mention real peace. In the wake of all these horror stories, all but less than 10% of the prewar Serbian population has been cleansed from Kosovo. And the NATO vision of a multiethnic Kosovo has been stripped down to what this entire military exercise has been all along - an act of wanton criminal assault on the Serbian PEOPLE, not Slobodan Milosevic. Period. Still, amid all these sordid daily examples of the "peacefarce" which NATO has brought to Kosovo, some stories stand out, both for their brutality and as examples of KFOR's complicity in the crimes against the Serbs. · On August 17, Albanian terrorists set fire to, and burnt to death, Lela Dimic and her six-month daughter in Prizren, a southern Kosovo town in the German KFOR sector. Mother and daughter were bestially killed because they "did not respond to the invitation to go to KLA headquarters on an informative talk," according to a Tanjug news report. · The same day, two Serb teenagers, a 14-year old girl and 16- year old boy, were killed by a mortar shell in the Serbian village of Klokot in the American sector of Kosovo. Five other Serbs were wounded and transferred into the U.S. army hospital. The American troops knew the village was in danger, but did nothing to prevent shelling, Tanjug reported, citing a comment by a KFOR spokesman. · The same day, Zorka Zizic from Pristina was killed in her flat in the center of the town, reported the Center for Peace and Tolerance. Four armed Albanians broke into her flat, killed the woman and plundered the flat. · "KFOR has disarmed neither terrorist organization KLA, nor other Albanian terrorist groups in Kosovo and Metohija; they continue to kill and kidnap the Serbs and other non-Albanian inhabitants in the region, to plunder their property and set their houses on fire," the information services of the Serbian Orthodox Church (SOC) reported on Aug. 20. But KFOR is not totally inactive. In response to the Albanian reign of terror, they moved to arrest and disarm some Serbs!? Go figure · "This morning, KFOR soldiers of the German contingent have arrested in Orahovac four Serbs on the basis of the Albanians' accusation," the SOC report continued. Andjelko Kolasinac - ex president of the municipality of Orahovac, Dr. Vekoslav Simic, Dejan Micic and Stanko Levic were arrested on suspicion of that they had taken part in the fight against the Albanian terrorists during NATO aggression on Yugoslavia. Which is - in KFOR's opinion - a war crime, the SOC notes. KFOR intends to take these four men to War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague. · NATO has also ordered all Serbs to hand in their weapons Saturday, or face arrest in a last-minute crackdown before Dutch troops turn security over to the Russians. Early Saturday (Aug.21), German and Dutch troops posted signs throughout a Serb neighborhood in the town of Orahovac with the names of Serbs NATO believes were given weapons by Serb police. · The signs ordered Serbs to turn in their weapons Saturday to NATO collection points in the center of town. "If you respond to this, you will be freed of punishment," the signs said. The warning added that peacekeepers would begin house-to-house searches after the deadline, and "if we find any weapons, you will be arrested." --- TiM Ed.: So disarm and intimidate the victims, seems to be the NATO tactics. Meanwhile the KLA terrorists, whom NATO was supposed to have disarmed upon entering Kosovo, according to the armistice agreement signed on June 10, are evidently free to roam the countryside as they please, and kill as many Serbs as they please. Funny how KFOR's actions in Kosovo sound similar to the NWO governments' efforts to disarm the population in U.S. and many other countries (e.g., Britain, Australia), the 2nd Amendment rights (in America) notwithstanding. If We the People let them, soon enough only the criminals - both state and street thugs - would end up with weapons. --- The Serbs from Orahovac have sent a letter of protest to the UN Civil Mission and to KFOR, asking that the German soldiers release these four arrested Serbs; otherwise, the remaining two thousand Serbs will move out of Orahovac. --- TiM Ed.: Which is exactly the point of all this Albanian and KFOR
Re: [CTRL] British Intelligence and the internet
-Caveat Lector- >Speaking from Paris, Mr Shayler said: "I have a computer on my desk and with >that computer I have an Internet site. > >"Now all I have to do is push a button and I could put state secrets on the >Internet." Sorry, Mr Shayler, but I have to view that idea with great suspicion. One evening when I was trying to put out a possible solution to the Quantum Paradox to hundreds of the worlds relativity scientists, I found that my computer was hanging a lot, and I kept reconnecting, sending mail etc, but things were going out real slow. So I decided to phone technical support at easynet. Lets empty your netscape cache [done that], lets check your dial up settings, IP number then, I was told to reconnect whilst he hung on to see if it went. Well the modem sings its song, connection screen comes up and I log onto netscape.com. Sorry Mr hennessey, but you're not connected - but I am, look my clocks ticking, Hang on he says I'll Ping you, nope, you're not connected, lets recheck your settings and redial - did that - same again - connected, but not connected. Its your lucky night mr hennessey, he says because I'm one of the few tech people with Core Access - I'll look you up there and see if your IP number checks out. What was your IP number he says ?? doesn't seem to be the same one that you're really dialling - I'll Ping that one and see where it goes ... Cheltenham, Cambridge and 2 Linux mainframes in London, then you log on. quote .. 'Should I be talking to you' he says - its ok I say, I'm just putting out a new kind of particle physics he laughs nervously ... oh he says, thats odd, my bosses phone is going ... I think that mr Shayler is a plant in deep cover ... and I would not take anything he says as gospel where does his IP number and connection really go before it gets to us ... and wouldn't he have high enough clearance to know that he can be locked out ?? given the circumstances I have just described. Andrew Hennessey > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: HOT: Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/25/99 6:04:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << ..Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings >> Bob Barr is a half breed/half wit...not that there's anything wrong with that ===Bill. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pole-Oo-Shun
-Caveat Lector- Shoot...I went online looking for a soil test kit whereby one might determine the ph and nutrient levels in a sample of soil...I could not find one except a home depots website, but what I did find were literally HUNDREDS of soil test kits for eco-companies to test for PETROLEUM residues in the soil...its everywhere...we live in invisible filth...all of us...can't clean it up its on everything we touch we eat we breath we drinkits gross. And this is not counting the radioactive stuff BG Alamaine Ratliff wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Go to this site and one can see how likely one is to come into > contact with pollutants in one's immediate area. > > http://www.scorecard.org/ > > > Setting Priorities > > Want to know what the most important environmental problems in > > your community are? Scorecard lists the top ranking issues in > > your area, based on comparative risk projects.Pollution Locator > > Find out about the pollution problems in your community. Search > > by geographic area or company name, or explore our maps. Reports > > are currently available on criteria and hazardous air pollutants, > > toxic chemical releases from manufacturing plants and on animal > > wastes produced by factory farms. Pollution Rankings Scorecard > > highlights pollution problems that put an area into the worst 20% > > of areas in the country, or in its own state, and spotlights the > > companies responsible.About the Chemicals Find out whether a > > chemical has been tested for health effects and how harmful it > > may be for you and the environment.Health Effects Select a health > > problem that concerns you and find out what chemicals are > > recognized or suspected causes.Regulatory Controls Find out about > > the regulatory programs that govern chemicals.Discussion Forums > > Share your views about pollution problems in your community, > > agricultural pollution, chemicals in consumer products, or the > > health effects of chemicals.Take Action Scorecard lets you send > > faxes--for free--straight to the top-ranked polluters in your > > area or send email to key state and federal decision makers. We > > provide a directory of environmental organizations in your area > > and link you directly to volunteer opportunities with groups > > working on your issues. Or you can support Scorecard by running > > banners, distributing our data or maps, or contributing to the > > Environmental Defense Fund. > > A<>E<>R > ~~~ > The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking > new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said > it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your > own reason and your common sense." --Buddha > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled > one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, >German Writer (1759-1805) > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that > prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart > information and ideas through any media and regardless > of frontiers." > Universal Declaration of Human Rights > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will > teach you to keep your mouth shut." > --- Ernest Hemingway > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material > is distributed without charge or profit to those who have > expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information > for non-profit research and educational purposes only. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ >
[CTRL] Fw: HOT: Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings
-Caveat Lector- ..Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings Wednesday, 25 August 1999 22:28 (GMT) (UPI Spotlight) Rep. Barr calls for new Waco hearings WASHINGTON, Aug. 25 (UPI) - Reports that the FBI fired pyrotechnic tear gas canisters during the operation that ended the 1995 Branch Davidian compound siege in Waco prompted a Congressman to call (Wednesday) for new hearings into the controversial operation. Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., sent a letter to the chairman of the House Government Reform Committee and to Attorney General Janet Reno saying the reports raise questions as to whether government officials lied to Congress about what exactly happened at Waco. Copyright 1999 by United Press International "Communism is like one big phone company." -- Lenny Bruce DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pole-Oo-Shun
-Caveat Lector- Buh pole-oo-shun is a meee-th o' 'da librl me-da...nuthin mo. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] British Intelligence and the internet
-Caveat Lector- from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_429000/429393.stm Renegade MI5 officer David Shayler has said he will reveal further secrets from his work with the UK's intelligence services. In an interview with Channel 5 News, the ex-spy claimed that the secrets were stored in his computer and ready to be published on the Internet. Speaking from Paris, Mr Shayler said: "I have a computer on my desk and with that computer I have an Internet site. "Now all I have to do is push a button and I could put state secrets on the Internet." "I've always said that I intended to get these things into the public domain in some way," he added. The former spy is wanted in the UK for allegedly breaking the Official Secrets Act by speaking about the intelligence services in a Sunday paper in 1997. Ministers denied his claims that MI6 planned to assassinate Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi, and that MI5 was warned about the bombing of the Israeli embassy in London in 1994. No regrets Mr Shayler fled to France two years ago, where he now lives with his girlfriend and fellow ex-MI5 employee Annie Machon. He fears he will be arrested if he returns to the UK. Attempts to extradite him to stand trial in the UK failed when a Paris court threw out the case last November. Mr Shayler warned: "At the moment they're [the UK Government] relying very much on my goodwill because they can't extradite me from France. "What I would hope is that I could come to some arrangement with the government whereby we could do that in a way that was satisfactory to both sides." Mr Shayler stressed that he did not regret his actions: "Despite what people try and say about me being a traitor and damaging national security, a special branch officer and a judge have said that my disclosure in the Mail on Sunday did not damage national security." Referring to the Official Secrets Act, he added: "I have broken a law that should be illegal in western democracy." from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_347000/347912.stm Former MI6 intelligence officer, Richard Tomlinson, who has threatened to publish state secrets on the World Wide Web, says the Internet spells the end for the world's intelligence services. His prediction came in an e-mail interview with BBC News Online. "I think the Net will eventually make intelligence agencies defunct as there will be a lot less secrets around the world that they can steal," he said. Mr Tomlinson criticised the government's attempts to suppress the publication of a list of more than a hundred alleged MI6 operatives on the Internet last week, describing it as "foolish". Already more than 100 copies of the list have been put up on Internet bulletin boards. A Website reproducing the list has recorded more than 27,000 views of the page and hoax lists have appeared. Chain e-mail carries MI6 list There is even a chain e-mail carrying the names across the Net. It was started in New Zealand by Peter Wills, a physics professor at the University of Auckland and a well-known campaigner on civil liberties, anti-nuclear and Greenpeace issues. "None of these agents would be at risk if the British immediately withdrew them, disbanded MI6 and pensioned their agents off in respectable jobs (or handed those who had committed crimes in other countries over to the appropriate authorities for justice)," he says in an e-mail justification. "We used the technique of rapid email dispersal a few years ago when Nicky Hager published his book "Secret Power", now a classic of its genre. In the early hours before its publication I distributed copies to about 6 different locations internationally, rendering ineffective any injunction to halt distribution of the book the following morning. "I also headed an effort to defy the UK Govt's ban on Peter Wright's "Spycatcher" in New Zealand in 1987. I wrote a review of the book in which I quoted all of the offending sections and provided an evaluation of the relevance of the information to assessing the activities of NZ's intelligence establishment. We advertised in a newspaper and gave away copies of the review to all applicants, thereby "publishing" what the UK Govt was claiming should remain secret, lest its "national security" be damaged." Tomlinson's e-mail death threats Mr Tomlinson says in his e-mail that he has received both supportive messages and hostile ones blaming him for the publication - some amounting to death threats have been referred to his lawyer. He continues to deny that he sent the list to Executive Intelligence Review magazine, founded by conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche, where they were first published online, and says many of the names are unknown to him. The e-mail exchange in full: What kind and amount of e-mail have you been receiving? When The Sun first published my address alongside a very hostile and one-sided article, I got quite a lot of threatening e-mail. But I got even more supportive e-mail from people who thoug
[CTRL] ET Disclosure Policy Split
-Caveat Lector- From: "Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Political Science 101:ET Disclosure Policy Split There is a deep division within the Bilderberg Group, mirrored in the other world management policy bodies, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Trilateral Commission, as well as within the Departments of Defense and the Intelligence agencies of the U.S. and NATO countries, between those (the Enlightened Minority) who feel it's time to go public with ET contact and present the cumulative experience with ETs as non-threatening, and those (The Benighted Majority) who advocate keeping ET contact hidden while studying ETs further to find their weaknesses in order to continue to refine weapons to repel them, because ETs threaten the current "elite"'s monopoly on the apparatus of wealth, power and status. Bilderberg, CFR, TLC, etc. were built to serve their elite masters. The progressives therein can advocate for enlightened world management policies. But they have to see if the majority go along with such policies. The selfish majority don't when some powerful faction's economic ox (e.g. the Dutch royal family's profitable ownership of [Royal Dutch] Shell [Petroleum. Ltd.]) is about to be gored (e.g. by potential release of nonpolluting Zero-Point Energy [ET] technology.) Dr. Michael Wolf of the National Security Council and my ex-NSA source (and others, such as Colonel Steve Wilson, USAF, Colonel Donald Ware, USAF, Command Sergeant-Major Robert Dean, USA, etc.) are part of the Enlighted Minority within the Intelligence and military organizations, who feel its time for UFO reality to come out. They aren't waiting for the Benighted Majority to give permission. Thus we are being treated to an extraordinary level of substantive UFO/ET disclosures from authoritative sources. Those who won't accept UFO reality until they hear it from the President's lips may have to wait a while longer. But anyone who cares to attend to what _other_ governmental figures are disclosing can find substantial documentation of the reality of UFOs and ET contact. Richard Boylan, Ph.D. Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC 2826 O Street, Suite 2, Sacramento, CA 95816, USA. (916) 455-0120 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Website: Http://www.jps.net/drboylan/ Author of: "Close Extraterrestrial Encounters", "Labored Journey To The Stars" and "Project Epiphany". We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pole-Oo-Shun
-Caveat Lector- Go to this site and one can see how likely one is to come into contact with pollutants in one's immediate area. http://www.scorecard.org/ > Setting Priorities > Want to know what the most important environmental problems in > your community are? Scorecard lists the top ranking issues in > your area, based on comparative risk projects.Pollution Locator > Find out about the pollution problems in your community. Search > by geographic area or company name, or explore our maps. Reports > are currently available on criteria and hazardous air pollutants, > toxic chemical releases from manufacturing plants and on animal > wastes produced by factory farms. Pollution Rankings Scorecard > highlights pollution problems that put an area into the worst 20% > of areas in the country, or in its own state, and spotlights the > companies responsible.About the Chemicals Find out whether a > chemical has been tested for health effects and how harmful it > may be for you and the environment.Health Effects Select a health > problem that concerns you and find out what chemicals are > recognized or suspected causes.Regulatory Controls Find out about > the regulatory programs that govern chemicals.Discussion Forums > Share your views about pollution problems in your community, > agricultural pollution, chemicals in consumer products, or the > health effects of chemicals.Take Action Scorecard lets you send > faxes--for free--straight to the top-ranked polluters in your > area or send email to key state and federal decision makers. We > provide a directory of environmental organizations in your area > and link you directly to volunteer opportunities with groups > working on your issues. Or you can support Scorecard by running > banners, distributing our data or maps, or contributing to the > Environmental Defense Fund. A<>E<>R ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Breakfast At Wackenhut
-Caveat Lector- Proof of Conspiracy to profit from the War on Drugs has been rife in Fort Lauderdale ever since Nick Navarro's time, when the BSO turned part of the Sheriffs Department into a crack lab in which to manufacture that drug from seized whitethe purpose? To Flood the Streets with crack cocaine thereby facilitating sting busts upwards of 3500 people per weekend. Most served mandatory mins and were victims of property seizures if they had any. Here is the latest depredation of the BSO: Breakfast at Wackenhut Broward County Sheriff over easy, with egg on his face as well as on the face of the judge who signed a warrant authorizing BSO to search Wackenhut Work Release Center, all of the residents and all of the resident advisors (staff). Now, I realize that as mere citizens, we are not privy to a lot of what goes on behind the scenes, so we must rely on the media for enlightenment and information. And, based on what we've been led to believe, most citizens would have justified signing that search warrant. Although this facility has repeatedly invited the sheriff to come and check it out at his convenience, the Sheriff of Broward County has chosen instead to slap the administrator's outstretched hand with a search warrant instead of a handshake and his employees with pat downs instead of the pat on the back that they deserve. I, personally, was fortunate enough to have missed their fishing expedition, but my fellow residents, in all stages of their day, had to suffer this degradation. Those coming in from work had their personal items taken from them and searched - one gentleman just coming back from commissary had his sealed box of Sugar Twin torn open and searched. (duh!!) along with his other purchases. The women were literally herded together, taken down to the yard, ordered to form 3 lines, given numbers (i.e. you're #1, you're #2, etc.) warned that they had better remember their numbers, ordered to face the wall and patted down. What, no firing squad? The women were chosen at random to take breathalyzer tests. The male residents, who were herded none too gently to the other side of the yard, were all given breathalyzer tests. And the Wackenhut staff, also having been herded together into the kitchen, were not only patted down, but the manner in which they were treated made them feel as if they were inmates and all of them were subjected to urine drug tests. Kid of reminds you of the jealous vigilance and suspicion with which the Gestapo, S.S. and Nazi authorities questioned and viewed each other? Oh yeah, and the only time the drug dogs actually became excited (causing the Raiders (BSO's elite drug task force) to drool in anticipation of a drug bust) was when they located a stash of chicken wings (Duh again!!, Someone's dinner). As deplorable, unethical and improper as this may sound, I, being an optimist, could still consider this disgusting example of abuse of power by The sheriff and his BSO Gestapo squad as a blessing in disguise. How? Well now that the residents of Wackenhut have been exonerated (all tested negative) and the facility itself, after being searched, proved that no one was bringing in or stashing drugs, a true sense of pride and accomplishment resulted in exuberant cheering and applause for a job well done; ours. This, to me and quite a few others who have eyes to see, shows me that this facility, the experiment it represents, is actually working far better than anything BSO has done. It is obvious that the residents here have too much respect for the people who are helping us piece our lives back together to risk losing this opportunity at regaining our dignity by doing anything as stupid as drugs and/or alcohol. But what I'd like to know and you, as tax payers, have a right to know, is on what grounds did the judge, the sheriff, the 40 odd raiders, 30 odd BSO officers, 3 dog teams and photographer justify invading this facility. Also, I'm sure you're all curious to know how much this invasion cost us...so am I 117 walk-away escapes from this facility in x years of operation. How Shocking? No, really, that's not a rhetorical question. Compared these numbers to the rate of walk away escapes from the BSO run facility and you'll find that the difference is statistically insignificant. (in other words, the difference is equal to or less than the margin of error in calculating the numbers) Wackenhut, according to the papers, is staffed, not by professional corrections officers, but by mere civilians with little or no experience in corrections. Broward County Sheriff never donned a badge in his life before he took office in the last general election and has yet to ever walk a beat or earn an honest day's pay as a corrections officer. In fact, he is a career politician without a shred of law enforcement experience. The sherrif does not work for you, ladies and gentlemen, he works for the Law Enforcement Union, who just happens to b
Re: [CTRL] CORPORATE AND GOVERNMENTAL DEVIANCE
>From: Kris Millegan ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CORPORATE AND GOVERNMENTAL DEVIANCE: >Problems of Organizational Behavior in Contemporary Society The problem with "government" is sovereign immunity. Sovereignty in America is in the People not the State, when We forget that...public servants become Our masters. The problem with corporations is limited liability by "law", there is nothing wrong with limited liability by contract where everyone involved knows their rights and responsibilities. When this is done by "law" corporations become subsidiaries of the State. This is further complicated when the State incorporates as did the United States in 1871. Then government acts in commerce and corporations take on governmental privileges. For the Kingdom of Christ, Robert Paul Click to subscribe to Holy_War
[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 25
UNDERNEWS Sam Smith August 25, 1999 The Progressive Review 1739 Conn. Ave. NW Washington DC 20009 202-232-5544 Fax: 202-234-6222 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INDEX: http://prorev.com RECENT UNDERNEWS: http://prorev.com/indexa.htm TODAY'S HEADLINE NEWS: http://prorev.com/altnews.htm THE REVIEW FORUM: http://prorev.com/letters.com DONATIONS AND ORDER FORM: http://prorev.com/order3.htm UNSUBSCRIBE: Reply with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. For a free subscription to our e-mail updates send your postal address with zip code. Copyright 1999, The Progressive Review. Matter not independently copyrighted may be reprinted provided TPR is paid your normal reprint fees, if any, and is given proper credit. Because of its quantity, TPR's mail is not always answered, but it is always read. The editor is cheered or remorseful as appropriate and posts some of the more interesting messages at http://prorev.com/letters.htm -- WACO LEE HANCOCK, DALLAS MORNING NEWS: The FBI is preparing to acknowledge in a formal statement that its agents fired pyrotechnic tear gas grenades on the last day of the Branch Davidian siege, senior federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday. The statement would represent a reversal from the federal government's adamant, long-held position that the FBI used no device capable of sparking a fire on the day the Davidian compound burned near Waco. Earlier this week, former senior FBI official Danny Coulson told The Dallas Morning News that pyrotechnic grenades had been used on April 19, 1993, the day that the compound burned with David Koresh and more than 80 followers inside Earlier Tuesday, Texas Department of Public Safety Commission Chairman James B. Francis said the Texas Rangers have ``overwhelming evidence'' supporting Coulson's statement. LOOSE CHANGE NEW YORK TIMES: A Federal judge said the court would ask more than 12,400 current and former Justice Department lawyers whether they wanted to join a class-action lawsuit filed last year by nearly 200 lawyers against the agency. The lawsuit seeks a half-billion dollars for what the lawyers charge are millions of hours of overtime that the department owes them. Surprisingly candid internal Justice Department documents show that department officials knew they were in violation, but kept, in effect, two sets of books. One set, on which paychecks were based, required lawyers to state that they worked 40 hours a week, no matter how much time they actually put in. SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER: [A Children's Defense Fund] study, drawn from U.S. Census Bureau data, shows the number children living in extreme poverty jumped 27 percent one year after the reform measure was signed into law. The government pegged poverty in 1997 at a yearly income of $16,400 for a family of four, and $12,802 for a family of three. It defines extreme poverty as annual income at half those levels. According to the Children's Defense Fund analysis, 2.7 million children fell into this category in 1997 - 426,000 more than in 1996, the year Congress passed the reform measure requiring work after two years on public assistance rolls and limiting a recipient's lifetime benefit to five years. ECO NOTES GUARDIAN (LONDON): Europe's biggest bank has advised the world's largest investors to sell their shares in leading companies involved in the development of genetically modified organisms because consumers do not want to buy their products. In a report sent to several thousand of the world's large institutional investors, including British pension funds, Deutsche Bank says that "growing negative sentiment" is creating problems for the leading companies, including Monsanto and Novartis. LAND OF THE FREE REASON EXPRESS: Applying content restrictions across international borders is tricky business. German media giant Bertelsmann pulled Adolph Hitler's "Mein Kampf" from its English and French BOL online bookstores after complaints from the U.S. accused it of violating German law The Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles had filed a complaint with the German Justice Ministry accusing Barnesandnoble.com, Bertelsmann's U.S. online bookselling partner, of violating German law by selling such books to German consumers online. BOL said it would simply stop selling the work altogether because it couldn't guarantee it wouldn't fall into the hands of a German citizen. Bertelsmann has also pushed Barnesandnoble.com--of which it owns 40 percent--to stop selling books banned as illegal hate literature in Germany. Amazon.com still sells an English version of "Mein Kampf" in all the countries to which it delivers, but does not sell the book in German. A MUSICIAN WITH LONG HAIR driving a Porsche was stopped by Abington MA cops. Like a growing number of drivers, he taped the encounter. He received no ticket but because of his treatment by the officers went the next day to the local police station to make a complaint.
[CTRL] Illuminati Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >I know Fritz, personally, and he his a good guy. But one must recognize and >he states in his work, what his research style is. And that is to gather >everything he hears and reads and put them together. Does this mean that it isn't "nice" to point out mistakes and errors? He should be glad that there's somebody willing to correct them. (except if he's giving out disinformation on purpose of course) After reading the article on Newt Gingrich I'm not so sure Fritz is a "good guy". The language he uses to describe people who are not Christian fundamentalists ... I'm not a Christian fundamentalist, so probably he'll see me as a "demented satanist" too. Natalie A man must not swallow more beliefs than he can digest. Havelock Ellis [The Dance of Life] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kindred Spirits
-Caveat Lector- >From http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html By Justin Raimondo > August 25, 1999 > > OPERATION KINDRED SPIRIT A CASE OF ETHNIC CLEANSING > > Operation Kindred Spirit, the code name for the Department of > Energy's effort to convict alleged Chinese spy Wen Ho Lee (of > something, anything) is coming unraveled and, with it, the show > trial so eagerly anticipated by the Hate China crowd. The case > that was compared by interventionist conservatives to that of > Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, a dramatic reenactment of the Cold > War spy hysteria of the fifties, turns out to be nothing but an > episode of the Keystone Kops. For once, the truth is beginning to > come out in spite of the War Party's best efforts much to the > chagrin of the warmongers in both parties. > > > > THIS JUST IN > > The startling news that the Department of Justice security chief, > John Dion, is recommending against the prosecution of Lee was > followed by even more startling news: the resignation of Mr. > Notra Trulock, the Department of Energy official who led the > witch-hunt against Lee. This capped a week of new developments in > this long-simmering case, during which none other than respected > former Senator Warren Rudman (R-NH), now serving on the > President's Federal Intelligence Advisory Board, weighed in on > the side of the beleaguered Lee. Rudman authored a scathing > report that lambasted the investigation, derided the lack of any > evidence that Lee had passed on any information, and raised a > vital point: Why focus on Lee when the information he is alleged > to have stolen was available in so many other places? With more > than two dozen other possible sources of the security leak, why > did Trulock who has three other grievances filed against him by > Department of Energy employees home in on Lee, a Taiwan-born > ethnic Chinese? > > THIN AIR > > This question was trenchantly answered by Robert Vrooman, former > counterintelligence chief at the Los Alamos Laboratory, where Lee > worked, who declared that the case against Lee was built on thin > air. Vrooman verified what we have been maintaining in these > pages all along, and what Lee said on Sixty Minutes: the Feds are > scapegoating Lee because he is ethnic Chinese. Their whole case > is based on ethnicity. Who else are the alleged kindred spirits" > here, but that traitorous Chink and his Commie masters? > > TURNING THE TABLES > > Although fired from a job he held for decades at the Los Alamos > National Laboratory, in New Mexico, Lee has not been charged with > any crime and stoutly maintains that he is not guilty. Although > his name has been dragged through the mud by government > officials, including Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, it looks > like he may never get his day in court. His big chance to prove > his innocence may only come if he turns the tables and takes the > government to court a distinct possibility. > > A PUNK RAP > > The embarrassing truth, for both the administration and its > Republican enemies like Rep. Chris Cox, is that there is simply > no evidence that Lee ever spied for China, or for anybody else. > Secretary Richardson has vehemently denounced Lee and defended > his firing, on the grounds that Lee transferred technical data > into his secure home computer: but there is no evidence that Lee > transmitted anything to the Chinese or that the information ever > left his secured computer one that was so secure that Lee > complained that even he sometimes had difficulty gaining access > to it. Even the New Mexico district federal prosecutors, who are > chomping at the bit to go after Lee, are stumped as to what > charge to hang on him, aside from mishandling classified > information. But what kind of a punk rap is that? > > DOUBLE STANDARDS, ANYONE? > > The Clintonians are rightly afraid to indict Lee on this arcane > charge, or any other not because they are guilty of conspiring > with Beijing to deliver nuclear secrets in exchange for campaign > contributions, as some of the more rabid Sinophobes claim, but > because ex-CIA chieftain John Deutch was just caught > mishandling some very highly classified information far more > egregiously than Lee. It turns out that Deutch, now retired, used > to routinely cart home Top Secret files in his suitcase. For this > transgression, exposed at the height of the spy hysteria, Deutch > had his security clearance revoked. Will they dare to prosecute > Lee for the same infraction, and go for jail time, while Deutch > goes free? > > STRATEGIC INTELLIGENCE > > Although the arrogance and cruelty of this administration is for > all intents and purposes limitless, they do have some tactical > sense. Federal officials say that the reason for their lack of > enthusiasm for a trial is that it would reveal too much about the > sources and methods of U.S. counterintelligence operations but > don't you believe it. The real reason, as is always the case
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: To all you gun haters out there!]
-Caveat Lector- At 05:58 PM 08/25/1999 -0400, Bill wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Ah I see...so you are a good judge of idiots? What makes >that so? Are they people who disagree with you, or do not >posess the correct aura of gentility? People like this, >whether you like it or not, are the reason you can even say >what you just did. And hopefully you will always be able to It was funny Bill. That someone would turn in a bunch of non-working weapons, get a bunch of money in return and turn around and use that money to buy working weapons is priceless. A great way to beat the system. :-) Joshua2 can whine and pout all he wants. TFB. Stick around and watch him have a whole series of knee-jerk responses to this thread, it's usually hilarious. A post like yours is like waving a red flag in front of a bull, to him. He'll rant on and on for days. His blather is great for lots of yuks. :-) Don http://www.fwpd.net/dona/tesla/teslacoil.htm DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Compromised - Source of 'W' woes.
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Compromised Clinton, Bush and the CIA Terry Reed & John Cummings©1994 S.P. I. Books/Shapolsky Publishers, Inc. 136 West 22nd Street New York, NY 10011 212-633-2022 212-633-2123FAX - The original words on Dubba's coke-transport video. As, always, . . . Om K - Gomez had the answer. "Right now, this is Mr. Cathey's project. View him as the big boss. Mr. Bob Johnson in Miami is like a one-man legal oversight committee. You need to be filing all of your reports with him as this progresses. will be operations manager for this project ... if it's a go." The three-hour meeting ended with everyone upbeat. Gomez and Tracta both said they would file a joint report to Cathey, who would make the final decision. It appeared all systems were go, only the money had to be worked out. It was still not clear to Terry what the unidentified man's role was. It was obvious he had been cleared for everything, but it was a mystery who, or what, he truly represented. All Terry knew for sure was that he had a glass eye, an accent he could not quite place, and he left with a copy of the business plan, which had by now been stamped "Top Secret." By now it was dark outside and approaching 8 PM. Terry had not slept for more than 18 stressful hours and the day had been anything but routine. Seal, Tracta and Terry got into the Cessna and flew back to Howard where they spent the night at the bachelor officer's quarters. Despite his exhaustion, Terry couldn't sleep. This had been one hell of a day. He noticed the light from Seal's room coming in from under the door. He walked across the hall and knocked on the door. Seal was lying on his bed just staring at the idle ceiling fan. "Barry, tell me about this Gomez guy. Back in the states, you said he was loose cannon and we had to play ball with him. From what I can see now, he's going to be the guy in charge down here. I can't figure out if he's driven by ideals or greed. Does that bother you?" Seal seemed pensive and in the mood for a philosophical discussion. "Terry, as a young man I had ideals similar ta yours. I was put into play early on with a group of guys wantin' to liberate their country just as your 'freedom fighters' want ta liberate theirs. Anyone whose ideals drive them has ta be a little bit crazy. Gomez falls in that category. My Agency service has pivoted around a group of ragtag Cubans and now, Panamanians. They just come with this business. They're always on the ragged edge between right and wrong and sometimes they'll pull you in there with them. You just gotta keep your own head screwed on straight and remember why you got involved. Don't make their war your war or you can get into real trouble. But all I can tell ya from an Agency point of view, they're the only game in town, at least on this side of the world. If you wanna play this game, you gotta associate with guys like Gomez. They've turned fightin' commies into their own selfish fulltime profession. You don't know what really motivates them, greed or ideals or hatred. But, I agree with you, fuckin' communism is a threat. I may be a wild-ass free enterpriser, but I'm also a patriot." The following morning after a hearty GI breakfast of SOS (shit on a shingle) at the officer's mess, Terry was still trying to absorb all this. For him, it was still new, this sneaking off to a foreign country to hold intelligence briefings. It made him think of Thailand, watching the GIs walking around the Howard Air Base, seemingly barely able to tolerate their surroundings during the Christmas season, gawking back at him and Seal. It reminded him of how envious he had been in Asia while he watched the civilian spooks come and go as they pleased while he toiled in the strict, disciplined environment of the military. That's just how he must have looked to the spooks who operated in Thailand. Now it was his turn to be the envy of the underpaid grunts. At the base operations building, Terry had to oversee the Lear's refueling while Seal and Tracta indicated the need for another private meeting. As the two walked away, Terry could hear Seal say, "Well, I'm sorry Leroy, if they feel like I'm blackmailin' 'em. But this is business and I just gotta do what I gotta do..." At 10 AM, after saying goodbye to Tracta, the two prepared to depart. Terry felt that he would be home for dinner with any luck. He was wondering what new excitement might be awaiting him on the trip back. It didn't take long for him to find out. As soon as the two were airborne, Seal laid it on him. He was full of pent-up emotion and startled his flying companion as they exited Howard airspace. Seal began yelling at the top of his voice, something totally out of character for him. Terry had never seen him this euphoric. "YEE-HAWW," he screamed. "I'm gonna fuckin' make it. We're gonna do this, Terry. We've got these assholes eatin' outa our hands. YEEHAW. Give me the fuckin' airplane." He grabbed the contro
[CTRL] LA Shootings - Good Analysis
-Caveat Lector- From: barry chamish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, August 22, 1999 Subj: LA- Good Analysis From: Rena Freedenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unbelievable! Do you think that this guy is on the mark or just a kook? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: ä àåâåñè 19 1999 10:52 Subj: [jewishactivist] Digest Number 348 I smelled very old fish when I first heard the news and do believe this to be an accurate summation. We must remember always that: #1 They want our guns. #2 They will do ANYTHING to confiscate them. Many people are probably scratching [their] head over the recent shootings in the LA areas, especially when the suspect, Buford O'neil Furrow arrived in a neat little package on the doorsteps of the FBI Las Vegas. You are not alone in your bewilderment. 1. Early Reports. Yes, you probably heard numerous accounts of more than one shooter, different clothing, etc. I don't think there was too much dis-info there. After all, early reports came from young children. Once the carjacking occurred, a more accurate description came forward. 2. Early statements by Politicians. People such as Charles Shummer, Gov. Gray Davis, Mayor Richard Rearden (sp?) the ADL, and the JDL were all screaming hate crime before ANYONE had a motive or an actual description of the suspect. 3. The FBI and ATF were on the scene immediately long before the Clinton spoke ! Like Columbine, SWAT agents just stood outside until long after the postal worker was killed. Not to mention reports about other people (with other descriptions) being arrested shortly after. 4. The Carjacking. Forgive me, but it seems stupid to think that some idiot (and alleged survivalist) hell-bent on killing Jews left all that ammo in a van. No survivalist would do that without a reason. IMPORTANT: If Furrow really wanted to kill Jews in mass number, he had all the ammo he needed. He was also in a neighborhood where there were plenty of visible Jewish targets. And why allow the female carjack victim to live? According to reports, he brandished a weapon, told her to get out, don't scream, and just run. Let's no mention the fact that he fired a reported 70 rounds with a semi-automatic weapon at children less than 15 feet away in a closed area and killed no one [ AND KILLED NO ONE ! ], only superficial wounds. This, from a man with a military background. Hmmm. 5. The Postal Worker. After all, something HAD to happen to make it federal. When over half the LA county police force (that's a lot of people, folks) had closed the entire area off in search of any angry looking white guy, Furrow finds time to stop and off a postal worker during his escape. Not to be a certified conspiracy theorist, but think back to the Kennedy Assassination. 6. The APB. Within 4 hours after the attack on the Jewish Center, every radio station in the LA area was giving out several (yes, I mean several) descriptions of a carjacked vehicle -- two different license plate numbers, and three different colors. I even considered calling a news-talk radio station while stuck in traffic in I-605 asking, What the hell do you want us to look for??. Shouldn't the carjack [victim] know what her car looks like? 7. The Hotel Siege. See if this sounds familiar to you: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. In Chatsworth, CA, throw that out the window. A virtual battalion of black suited armor wearing, helmet wearing troops laid siege to this entire LA suburb. The dress code: All black (with federal stuffed shirts playing team leaders), black tanks (LAPD's finest) choppers, the whole nine yards. THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE COULD HAVE ESCAPED THIS unless [they had] help. Yet, no dice. 8. The Photo. After having MAJOR egg on their faces, the LAPD spokesman (someone I've never seen before, but no matter, he's Jewish) asks for the public's help in finding Mr. Furrow. TAKE NOTE: At this time, there is so much victimization, and wailing, and whining by the Jewish leadership in the local media that local politicians were probably concerned about a mass exodus to Israel from LAX. Back to the photo: It wasn't a mug shot. I remember saying when I first saw the photo (live), That looks like either a work ID or some kind of government issue. It only took 30 minutes for the media to have enough info on Furrow to fill a CIA dossier. Good job, Media especially when you didn't have a SSN to work from. Oh yeah, and the Southern Poverty Law Center JUST HAPPENS to have a photo of Furrow playing security at an Aryan Nation Complex Idaho. How convenient. Beside that photo came from the same fat guy from Michigan who did the Roger and Me film (this video came from a show called TV Nation). I can't remember his name. No matter. Let's
Re: [CTRL] Discussions on Homoeopathy at Lyghtforce
-Caveat Lector- Hello Simillimum, Lyghtforce Homoeopathy email list: http://www.lyghtforce.com/homeo.html Homeo-list's "Homoeopathy online" e-zine: http://www.lyghtforce.com/HomeopathyOnLine/index.html (latest issue) also: http://www.lyghtforce.com/HomeopathyOnline/Issue3/voice.html previous issue with David Little's article in rebuttal to Rudi Verspoor's "homoeopathy renewed" article which glorifies Sequential Therapy dressed in new clothes by Rudi- who David is too professional and polite to mention is a self-admitted failure at classical homoeopathy with only 10 or so years of learning and practice prior to his undertaking a massive political campaign to alienate the study of "classical" (Hahnemannian) homoeopathy in favor of "modern" (allopathic/routinist/) methodology. (David is currently teaching me not only homoeopathy, but politeness and diplomacy- and also homoeopathic psychology -he may be including my name with some others on the Homeopathy list as a good heartedly sneaky ploy to get me to "measure up" to the kind, patient and well thought out communications of some of the others- instead of my often blunt and precipitous declamations off the top of my head- perhaps another year of my constitutional remedy... :) Some of us will be aware already of medical "turf wars" detailed in "Divided Legacy" by Harris Coulter, (also "The Medical Mafia" by Guy Lanctote MD, & many others) -or otherwise apparent within "Western/modern/European" socio-politico-economic control structures -to the discerning eye. Homoeopathy, Chiropractic, and Osteopathic (manipulative) have all come under extreme pressure in the U.S., which had suppressed the wholistic/dynamic "spiritual heart" of these schools, and sought - with great success- to either eradicate the teachings and replace them- or pollute them -with allopathy. It is quite apparent that the imho "Divinely inspired" Art of Homoeopathy is under attack on several fronts just now. From without, by allopathy-as ever, and from allopathically inspired reductionist science which is seeking the "scientific mechanism" of homoeoepathy - which we can only imagine would be put to the use of allopathically codifying and administering the remedies or the discoverable (partial/digital) "scientific" electromagnetic or other analogues thereof I cannot think of many WORSE things than "scientific" investigation into the electronic "transmission" of remedy "signatures." ... and from WITHIN- by historical revisionists and others who would seek to distort the Homoeopathy of Hahnemann or to replace (in the name of "Progress" of course) our teachings with other "modern" erroneous short-cut "homoepathy for dummies" and allopaths. It is a very sorrowful situation on the face of it- yet it DOES offer us the opportunity to "potentize" the learning that David has spent many years researching and testing clinically within our own lives and practices- it appears NOW that allopathic practices with pharmaceutical chemical suppression are reaching the end of their effectivity, and that our time of opportunity to be of service will likely come with a very large NEED- for the truly curative Homoeopathy of Hahnemann and followers of his lineage - in the treatment of "resistant" TB, and other antibiotic "resistant" disease vectors which could become epidemic along with other "emerging" symptoms of long-term wholesale suppresion of chronic disease in the not too distant future. Someday, I hope I can see India- and see what it is like to have homoeopathy respected equally with other healing arts - so much more balanced than the crazy money controlled U.S. ! It is a pleasure sharing this cyber-learning space with you all - gotta go make money now Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: David Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 6:20 AM To: Similllimum Subject: Discussions on Homoeopathy at Lyghtforce Dear Simillimum, I don't know how many of you are on the lyghtforce Homoelist at this time, but there have been some really good discussions on a number of topics. Will Taylor, Chris Kurz, Steve Waldenstein, Dave-H, and some nut case called David Little, and others, have been present very deep material on homoeopathy. I forwarded one of my posts about the characteristic symptoms which is an integral part of the discussion at the moment. I would suggest if you have time to take part. If you wonder where a lot of our HOE colleagues are, they are teaching on the lyghtforce Homoeolist. You can access the Homeolist by going to the Homeopathic Homepage [Jon Haworth's] on the Internet. Perhaps, someone can post the details. Best, David -- Visit our new website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic Academy at http://www.simillimum.com David Little © 1999 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propa
[CTRL] (Fwd) Release: Bush and Drugs
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- === NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.lp.org/ === For release: August 25, 1999 === For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Libertarians agree with George W. Bush: Drug use should be a "private" matter WASHINGTON, DC -- Here's how to end the controversy over Governor George W. Bush's alleged cocaine use: Simply give every suspected drug user the same right to "privacy" the GOP presidential front-runner demands, the Libertarian Party suggested today. "Let's treat every American like a presidential candidate: If you've ever used drugs, you shouldn't have to answer questions about it -- especially if doing so would invade your privacy, or if you now consider previous drug use a mistake," proposed Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. "Not only would such a don't-ask/don't-tell policy save the $17 billion the federal government currently spends on Drug Prohibition, but it would also let hundreds of thousands of non-violent drug offenders out of prison so they could lead productive lives -- and maybe even run for president themselves as hypocritical Republicans." Over the past week, controversy has escalated over Bush's persistent sidestepping of the "did-he-or-didn't-he?" question about alleged cocaine use. While first refusing to answer the question, Bush later claimed he hadn't used any illegal drugs in seven, then 15, then 25 years. "I'm going to tell people I made mistakes and that I have learned from my mistakes," said Bush in Columbus, Ohio. Interestingly, a number of Republicans who are otherwise enthusiastic supporters of the War on Drugs agreed that cocaine use -- by the millionaire sons of past GOP presidents, at least -- is no big deal. For example, Elizabeth Dole said drug use was a "personal" matter, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ), said people deserve "privacy" on the issue. For once, Libertarians -- who have argued for years that Drug Prohibition causes crime, threatens civil liberties, leads to police and judicial corruption, and acts as a "price support system" for criminals -- agree with the Republicans. "If we treated drug abuse as a personal, private problem -- rather than a criminal issue -- we'd be a lot better off as a nation," said Dasbach. "Instead of being thrown into jail, people would have the option to seek counseling or medical help, or simply mature to the point where drug or alcohol abuse was no longer part of their lifestyle, as Governor Bush seems to have done." In fact, the only Republican who appears to disagree with George W. Bush's claim that drug use should be a private issue is...George W. Bush. As Texas governor, Bush signed a law that toughened penalties for people convicted of possessing less than a gram of cocaine. Which leads to another Libertarian proposal, said Dasbach: Before politicians are allowed to vote on any Drug War legislation, they should agree to be subjected to the same criminal penalties they would impose on others. "It's quite simple: If Bush genuinely believes that people who use cocaine belong in prison -- and if he has personally used cocaine -- he should go to prison," said Dasbach. "Yes, our prisons are overcrowded because of the 1.5 million people arrested on drug charges every year...but there's always room for one more hypocritical politician who believes that what's good enough for presidential candidates isn't good enough for ordinary Americans." -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN8OUENCSe1KnQG7RAQGT6gQAgVddF9fAodvwGf1RDG5qkvXdAD7a7VEV 1XIGiT/z7x63RWVd8/u43n3FqN5hFDcyPp1HQP7TkTOlRBSdY9UEec0wiNXSh9TO gNaIwBniWKQQ87DIIP9tORVMD93CtegPVSeRUb8qKbvrlYeb/5kvxLjfnGDDgFJW R471H+8wYdw= =29qH -END PGP SIGNATURE- The Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org/ 2600 Virginia Ave. NW, Suite 100 voice: 202-333-0008 Washington DC 20037 fax: 202-333-0072 For subscription changes, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the subject line -- or use the WWW form. A<>E<>R ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No virtual gardens were nurtured during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Programmer Reaches His Xanadu. 30-years in development: the source code for Xanadu, an ambitious attempt to build a multi-dimensional hypertext system that in many ways parallels the Web, has been released by Internet visionary and enigma Ted Nelson. And not a moment too soon: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21430.html : What's the difference between a clear vision and a direct path? Have you ever built a Dream Machine? What's your place in the cyberunderworld? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Tele-garden Cultivates Cooperation. You can control all kindsa appliances, cameras, radio scanners, and robots remotely via the Internet. The Ars Electronica Center has set up a cyber garden equipped with a robot camera that you control with a click. Become a member for free, and you'll have the privilege of being able to water, seed, and care for the garden via other remotely controlled robots. The garden is divided into hundreds of sectors, and you can guide the camera and the watering/seeding robot to any of them. D'ya have a silicon thumb? http://telegarden.aec.at/ : Do you prefer real or virtual gardens? Are virtual pesticides hazardous? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ Aryan Graphics Factory We supply graphics designs, logos and slogans for White Nationalists, White Pride, NS, Patriots, Militia, and Klansmen world wide FREE OF CHARGE (as long as the project furthers the victory over the Jewish & Anti-White enemies.) The Jews have voted this site "THE WORLD'S MOST ANTI-JEWISH SOFTWARE SITE": http://www.whitepower88.com/jew-rats" : Does hate soften/harden the brain? Is hatred implanted by demons, deities, aliens, mind-controllers? Do you hate? Are you an evolutionary throwback?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Wilhelm Reich's Contact With Space. On 1954, Wilhelm Reich "happened accidentally to observe two bright yellow-orange lights moving in front of a mountain range toward a lake." The encounter was the opening salvo of a "war" with UFOs that would occupy the final phases of Reich's troubled medical and scientific career. http://www.space.com/area51/reich_816.html : Was Reich persecuted, assassinated, brilliant, insane, misled, tricked, on fire, sexy, abducted, implanted, devious, manipulative? How can you tell?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ MORE REACTION TO KANSAS DECISION ON EVOLUTION TEACHING. (ScienceWeek) What is sometimes not emphasized enough in discussions of the conflict between science and creationism is that the logical foundations of these two ways of viewing the world are quite different. Now, in an unsigned editorial, one of the leading science journals (_Nature_) discusses the difference between science and dogma, suggesting that scientists and science teachers can draw useful lessons from the efforts in Kansas to expel Charles Darwin from the state's schools. The editorial states: "In removing the teaching of evolution, as well as aspects of cosmology, from its curriculum guidance for school students, the Kansas Board of Education has done no favors to the schoolchildren of Kansas or to the national and international reputation of their state." Further: "If more children were taught science as a means of interrogating nature, rather than as a toolbox of rules, the 'debate' between creationism and Darwinism would come to be seen in a clearer light. Darwin's theory will continue to be attacked and will develop on the strength of new information established by geneticists, paleontologists and others. The idea of divine creation is unlikely to benefit from such further investigation because it is not scientific theory, but a dogma." (NAT) : Can dogma be rational? Can rationality be dogmatic? Can cretinists evolve? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ PRIVACY NEWS # DOJ Says "Let us enter your homes and disable encryption!". Trust us: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/aug99/encryption20.htm # Online Ads Track More Than You Know - your every move goes into their files: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C40728%2C00.html?sas.mail # Ecommerce? Sorry, You Forgot the Trust. Lack of trust is the main obstacle to mass acceptance of ecommerce. A privacy policy alone ain't enough. http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article/0,1087,4_183221,00.html http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21319.html http://news.excite.com/news/bw/990817/ny-jupiter# # Levi's: Jeans or Genes??? At its new flagship store set to open shortly in San Francisco, Levi's will be using biometrics to profile users. Updated profiles will be sent each day to the Levi's data warehouse, where data mining programs get to work, creating personaliz
[CTRL] Fw: Separation of Powers Restoration Act (Yea!)
-Caveat Lector- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c106:H.R.2655: HR 2655 IH 106th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 2655 To restore the separation of powers between the Congress and the President. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES July 30, 1999 Mr. PAUL (for himself and Mr. METCALF) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on International Relations, and in addition to the Committees on the Judiciary, and Rules, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned A BILL To restore the separation of powers between the Congress and the President. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Separation of Powers Restoration Act'. SEC. 2. FINDINGS. Congress finds the following: (1) As a limit on governmental power, Constitutional framers vested Federal powers in three coequal branches of government, each with unique and limited powers and each with a coequal duty to uphold and sustain the Constitution of the United States. (2) A Supreme Court justice stated, `The doctrine of the separation of powers was adopted by the convention of 1787 not to promote efficiency but to preclude the exercise of arbitrary power. The purpose was not to avoid friction, but, by means of the inevitable friction incident to the distribution of the governmental powers among three departments, to save the people from autocracy.' Myers v. United States, 272 U.S. 52, 293 (1926) (Brandeis, J., dissenting). (3) James Madison, quoting Montesquieu, stated in Federalist 47, `There can be no liberty where the legislative and executive powers are united in the same person, or body of magistrates.' (4) Article I of the Constitution provides, `All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States.' (5) A congressional committee print has noted that, `[b]ecause the President has no power or authority over individual citizens and their rights except where he is granted such power and authority by a provision in the Constitution or by statute, the President's proclamations are not legally binding and are at best hortatory unless based on such grants of authority.' 85th Cong., 1st Sess., Executive Orders and Proclamations: A Study of a Use of Presidential Powers (Comm. Print 1957). (6) The Supreme Court has stated that, even if Presidents have, without congressional authority, taken actions only the Congress may take, `Congress has not thereby lost its exclusive constitutional authority to make laws necessary and proper to carry out the powers vested by the Constitution `in the Government of the United States, or any Department of Officer thereof.' (Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952)). (7) Treaties or Executive Agreements which purport to assign powers not amongst those specifically granted to the Federal Government by the Constitution are non-binding and cannot constitute law. SEC. 3. SEPARATION OF POWERS RESTORING RESCISSIONS. (a) REPEAL OF WAR POWERS RESOLUTION- The War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541 et seq.) is repealed. (b) TERMINATION OF STATES OF EMERGENCY- (1) IN GENERAL- All powers and authorities possessed by the President, any other officer or employee of the Federal Government, or any executive agency (as defined in section 105 of title 5) as a result of the existence of any declaration of national emergency in effect on the date of enactment of this Act are terminated 90 days after such date. Such termination shall not affect-- (A) any action taken or proceeding pending not finally concluded or determined on such date; (B) any action or proceeding based on any act committed prior to such date; or (C) any rights or duties that matured or penalties that were incurred prior to such date. (2) DEFINITION- For the purpose of this subsection, the term `national emergency' means a general declaration of emergency made by the President or any other officer or employee of the executive branch. (d) TERMINATION OF AUTHORITY TO DECLARE EMERGENCY- To the extent that any Act of Congress in effect on the date of enactment of this Act grants
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: To all you gun haters out there!]
-Caveat Lector- Ah I see...so you are a good judge of idiots? What makes that so? Are they people who disagree with you, or do not posess the correct aura of gentility? People like this, whether you like it or not, are the reason you can even say what you just did. And hopefully you will always be able to say all that, even if I don't agree with it, because there are idiots like us willing to fight for your rights as well as our ownthere is plenty of precedent for arming the populace in the name of freedom, so much so that it can be said any unarmed nation has submitted utterly to enslavement. I meant the post to be humorous...sorry if it offended you. Truth Hurts. Ignorance kills. Bill Nurev Ind Research wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > I'm one of those people ( NOT a Liberal ) who wants to prevent guns > from getting into the hands of idiots like the one below. This kind > of person is obviously too immature to be around lethal firearms. > > Joshua2 > > PS: D.C. is now only paying for guns that work. > > >Bill wrote: > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > Chris Page wrote: > > > > > > Subject: > > > Subject: To all you gun haters out there..Just recently posted to > > > MSNBC Bulletin > > > Board... > > >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:53:57 -0600 > > > From: spiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: (Recipient list suppressed) > > > > > > Just recently posted to MSNBC Bulletin Board: > > > http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/msnbc-current/posts/cx/132420.asp > > > > > > Subject: To all you gun haters out there.. > > > From: JEMIII > > > Host: arc0a52.bf.sover.net > > > Date: Tue Aug 24 17:08:09 > > > > > > Did you know that D.C. has a gun buy back program and lets you remain > > > anonymous when you turn a gun in? Up until last week, anyway. Well, it > > > gave me an idea, being a gun owner and all, so guess what I did a little > > > while ago? - Yep, I turned in a whole pass'l of hardware to our dear ol > > > gov't. I spent the previous 2 years collecting all the junk, non-firing, > > > worthless examples of the modern firearm and turned them all in.(Really- > > > none were repairable!) I made nearly six grand on the deal. With the > > > proceeds, I turned around and bought (yes, bought!) some really serious > > > hardware that actually will fire if it becomes necessary to test out > > > some ammunition now and then. It just goes to show that democracy really > > > does work. The city of D.C. paid for a bunch of new guns and I didn't > > > pay anything but a few dollars here and there for "junk". The kicker?=== > > > I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN D.C.- I JUST DROVE THERE. I COUDN'T FEEL ANY BETTER > > > IF I HAD JUST PLOWED MY BOOT UP KLINTON'S SS. > > > > > > BY FOR NOW. GOTTA GO. SIGN ME "ONE MORE STRIKE AGAINST ALL JERK'IN > > > LIBERAL LEFT GUN HATERS. AND HAVE A REAL NICE DAY! > > > > > > Message thread: > > > To all you gun haters out there.. - JEMIII Tue Aug 24 17:08:09 > > > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > > == > > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > > nazi's need not apply. > > > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > > > Archives Available at: > > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Om > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.l
[CTRL] GENETIC VARIABILITY AND ESTROGEN ENDOCRINE DISRUPTION
-Caveat Lector- Genetic Variation in Sensitivity to Estrogen May Mask Endocrine Disruption excerpts: The highly prolific CD-1 strain of mice is about 100 times more resistant to to the endocrine- disrupting effects of estrogen... This calls into question the validity of current laboratory-animal- based safety tests of estrogen-like chemicals. "The laboratory-animal endocrine-disruption studies to date seem to have used estrogen-resistant lines of mice and rats for product-safety testing." "This study and a related study in rats potentially explain why doses of estrogenic chemicals resulting in endocrine disruption in fish and wildlife failed to disrupt reproductive development in previous laboratory animal studies," Spearow added. "Considering these genetic variations in the estrogen sensitivity of an individual or species will be important not only when testing for endocrine- disrupting properties in industrial chemicals and pesticides, but also when determining therapeutic doses of estrogen and related steroid compounds in human medicine," Spearow and Barkley emphasized. For example, an individual's genetically controlled response to estrogen should be considered when determining the appropriate dose of hormones used in contraceptives, hormone replacement therapy, and prevention and treatment of breast and prostate cancer, they explained. - From: ScienceWeek BULLETIN August 25, 1999 GENETIC VARIABILITY AND ESTROGEN ENDOCRINE DISRUPTION Estrogen profoundly affects sexual differentiation, reproductive function, and behavior in diverse vertebrate species, and estrogenic activity is associated with several xenobiotics or environmental estrogens that can cause cancer, impair reproductive development, and lead to irreversible abnormalities in early development. J.L. Spearow et al (US) now report a study of differences in susceptibility to disruption of juvenile male reproductive development by 17beta-estradiol between different strains of mice. From the results, the authors suggest that product safety bioassays conducted with animals selected for fecundity may GREATLY UNDERESTIMATE disruption of male reproductive development by estradiol and environmental estrogenic compounds. Ref: Science 20 Aug 99 - http://www-pubcomm.ucdavis.edu/newsreleases/08.99/ news_geneticvariation.html Genetic Variation in Sensitivity to Estrogen May Mask Endocrine Disruption ucdavis.edu, August 19, 1999 Genetically different strains of laboratory mice vary dramatically in their sensitivity to estrogen, report researchers at the University of California, Davis, in the Aug. 20 issue of the journal Science. The findings by Jimmy Spearow, a reproductive geneticist, and Marylynn Barkley, a reproductive endocrinologist, call into question the validity of current laboratory-animal- based safety tests of estrogen-like chemicals and suggest that an individual's genetic makeup should be considered when prescribing estrogen and related hormones for medical purposes. "The use of laboratory animals that genetically are quite resistant to estrogen for the evaluation of possible reproductive effects of various chemicals might be misleading and may mask our appreciation of how global exposure to estrogen-like chemicals threatens wildlife, domestic animals and humans," said Spearow, a research geneticist in UC Davis' Neurobiology, Physiology and Behavior Section. Estrogen is a naturally occurring hormone that is mimicked by other chemicals dubbed "endocrine disruptors" because they appear to hinder reproduction in fish, wildlife and other mammals by interfering with the normal function of the endocrine system. Such chemicals are found in certain pesticides, plastics, detergents and estrogens derived from plants. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is preparing to screen thousands of pesticides and industrial chemicals for several endocrine-disrupting effects. Previous studies have indicated that estrogen-like endocrine disruptors found in the environment can cause decreased sperm counts, deformed genitals, aberrant mating behavior and sterility in wildlife. Spearow and Barkley, who study reproductive hormones using mice as a research model, became interested in the possible genetic control over susceptibility to endocrine disruption by estrogen. "Many commercial outbred lines of laboratory animals have been bred for large litter size and vigor," Spearow explained. "As a result, the males from these strains tend to have larger testes and a decreased sensitivity to the estrogen-triggered mechanism that temporarily 'turns off' the reproductive system." He theorized that the process of breeding mice and rats
[CTRL] FIRING OF TWO MEDICAL JOURNAL EDITORS
-Caveat Lector- From: ScienceWeek BULLETIN August 25, 1999 INCREASING CRITICISM OF FIRING OF TWO MEDICAL JOURNAL EDITORS Two of the world's leading medical journals have both recently experienced upheaval: in January, the American Medical Association dismissed the top editor of the Journal of the AMA, George D. Lundberg, and last month the Massachusetts Medical Society dismissed the top editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, Jerome P. Kassirer. Although statements by the journals (both of which are at present without chief editors) dwell on the differences between the two cases, the media has in general focused on the fact that both cases involved the parent societies overriding the views of the editors for apparent political or profit motives, and both medical societies have been criticized. The events are now discussed in a major article in the New York Times, with L.K. Altman writing as follows: "The journals have increasingly become cash cows for the medical societies and companies that own them, with annual profits in the tens of millions of dollars, largely from drug company advertisements. And the imperative to sustain and build those profits is changing how the journals do business -- and how the public learns about medicine -- in ways their founders could scarcely have envisioned." Ref: New York Times 24 Aug 99 . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: WACO/Why FBI, Justice Now Admit Incendiaries Fired
8.25.99 Why FBI, Justice Dep't. Are Admitting Incendiaries Fired at Waco-- And How They Will STILL Try to Get Duck Responsibility Original Message Subject: Re: WACO/Army Gas Ordnance--INCENDIARY Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:32:12 -0700 From: xxx To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The story in the Dallas Morning News seems to indicate, at least to me, a full scale damage control operation on the WACO fire. The problem is the physical evidence-- expended military ordinance recovered from the fire by the Texas Rangers. That evidence cannot be wished away-- given the fact that its existence is public knowledge. Thus, there is the need to show how those rounds were fired-- in a way that doesn't effect the conclusion that the Davidians set their own fire. Thus, a controlled leak that shows those rounds were fired six hours before the fire started. The perjury issue can be wiped away by saying "We didn't know." Reno and top DoJ and FBI people can say, "The agents in the field didn't tell us." Which agents? Who gave permission? "We don't know. It's long after the fact? We have no way of finding out. Who do you think we are? The FBI?" Walter
[CTRL] Fwd: From a family member of a TWA 80 passenger.
Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 9:25 PM Subject: TWA800: Family Member Questions === THE VILLAGE VOICE http://villagevoice.com/letters/9931letters.shtml Letters, August 4 - 10, 1999 Truthless I read Robert Davey's "The FBI and Flight 800" [ http://villagevoice.com/features/9928/davey.shtml ] [July 20] with a great deal of interest. Three difficult years have passed since the crash. During this time, my family has grieved over the death of our beautiful 16-year-old daughter. Since the first week after the crash, I have been convinced that the explosion was caused by a missile, probably friendly fire. All that I have observed since that time has strengthened this conviction. Why would Clinton, in an executive order, remove whistleblower protection from the Navy Seal units involved in the recovery? Why would the Navy insist that it had no assets in the area carrying arms that could have downed a plane, and then subsequently admit that it had three submarines on maneuvers nearby? Why would the NTSB change its explanation of the 12-second line from the recovered black box? The data in that line may indicate that an external explosion occurred. The NTSB gave multiple versions of why it should not be included. Why was a written statement from the most experienced eyewitness never taken by the FBI? Why were he and I both tailed when I met with him at a restaurant on Long Island? He was a pilot with combat experience who was in the air in a helicopter about 10 miles away at the time, who saw the explosion, and was the first to arrive at the crash site. He told me that he saw a vapor trail with a red streak in the middle, which is characteristic of a missile. All I have are questions. All I want is the truth. Donald Nibert Montoursville, Pennsylvania Mike & Claire - The Rancho Runnamukka http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/ NEW page on JFK Jr. plane crash http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/JFK_JR/jj.html
Re: [CTRL] Mom" Madleine
-Caveat Lector- At 09:14 PM 08/25/1999 +0200, Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General wrote: > >RADULOVIC POSSESSES INCONTESTABLE FACTS PROVING THAT >MADLEINE OLBRIGHT HAS SOLD HER SON > >According to Philip Radulovic US State Secretary M. Olbright has sold her >son DWEIGHT, born from an affair with a certain " NYEGOSH " for US >$50.000. - Hearing before the court in Paris on September 17. Jela, You aren't going to find any supporters of "Mad Bomber" Albright on this list, so pretty much if Mad Bomber sold out her son, she also sold out her own country long ago. I personally would love to strap her fat ass to my Tesla Coil primary and throw the switch. Fitting isn't it, that a well-known Serbian invention could be used to channel hundreds of amps through her flesh and watch high voltages of long purple streamers emit from "her topload". Mad Bomber is a waste of human flesh. Don http://www.fwpd.net/dona/tesla/teslacoil.htm DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Tuesday, August 24, 1999
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CobolMage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS > >GOD AND THE SCIENTISTS: A NEW DEBATE, AN OLD QUESTION > > > Atheism/"secular humanism"/agnosticism (the dividing lines are > often rather vague) constitutes a sort of dogma for many prominent > scientists...so much so that for a scientist to be accepted by > his/her peers, s/he must publicly disavow "organized religion"-- > a process closely akin to the old loyalty oath. Do you have any evidence to back up this contention? I ask because the scientists I personally know best - a physicist and a geologist [both public university professors] and a botanist and an orbital systems researcher [both employed by corporations] are all non- doctrinaire mainline Protestant churchgoers. None has suffered at the hands of their peers that I know of - two are department heads - they work, they publish, they're accorded professional respect, and they neither vociferously include nor exclude their beliefs from their work. Indeed, I'm told that the field of petroleum geology attracts a number of fundy jeezoids, who manage to stay employed despite the rather sharp division between a literal interpretation of Genesis and modern geophysics. IMHO, the notion that the "perfect scientist" is an atheist, is just another myth, or is a best a drastic oversimplification of attitudes in US, western and worldwide scientific communities. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Internet Schizo Alert
-Caveat Lector- Aol user wrote: But what you are saying does not square with: > > DOPAMINE EXCESS is THE biochemical diagnosis of SCHIZOPHRENIA. > -Caveat Lector- > > Sorry, meaning that tennis pros aren't usually schizophrenics. That is the idea - this article does not make sense. piper -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Tuesday, August 24, 1999]
-Caveat Lector- CobolMage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS > subject: AANEWS for August 24, 1999 > > A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S >#629~~ 8/24/99 > http://www.atheists.org >ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ > http://www.americanatheist.org > > - >A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS >"Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights > And The Separation Of State and Church" > -- > > In This Issue... >* Scientific American article likely to ignite debate, controversy >* Atheist group organizing in Union County, N.J. >* Resources >* About this list... > >GOD AND THE SCIENTISTS: A NEW DEBATE, AN OLD QUESTION > Atheism/"secular humanism"/agnosticism (the dividing lines are often rather vague) constitutes a sort of dogma for many prominent scientists...so much so that for a scientist to be accepted by his/her peers, s/he must publicly disavow "organized religion"--a process closely akin to the old loyalty oath. The "ideal scientist" has been created in the image of Stephen Jay Gould or Carl Sagan, sneering from the heights of intellectual achievement at the hoi polloi gathering in the cathedrals, all the while promulgating a scientistic dogma to which one *must* adhere to "be taken seriously" in the academic forum (just as any politician worth his/her salt absolutely *must* belong to a church or synagogue or run the risk of being ignored by the electorate). This begs the question, of course, whether scientists today aren't simply acolytes of some great Church of the Cosmos, having substituted Knowledge for the all-powerful personal Deity they purport to have rejected. The problem with the universe, in the opinion of this one informed professional, is that our relationship with it seems to echo Haldane's classic remark, "The universe is not only queerer than we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine." It is so bizarre that it's often difficult to conceive of it having been created by the God of the Bible...as the Kansas State Board of Education, inter alia, would have us do. I suspect that if you were to speak one-on-one to a representative sample of scientists, you'd find that most of them believe in *something*--not necessarily what the majority of Americans would recognize as "God", but a Force (a la *Star Wars*) or an Entity or a Cosmic Engineer (the universe really *is* a kludge!)...but they wouldn't dare mention that in the hearing of other scientists. "On Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, I believe in Continuous Creation and the Steady State. On Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday, I believe in the Big Bang. On Sundays, I pray...with a day off every leap-year for an orgy of sheer solipsism..." (paraphrased from Robert A. Heinlein, *Stranger in a Strange Land*) = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mom" Madleine
-Caveat Lector- The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU === POLITIKA, Aug. 24.1999 page 20 RADULOVIC POSSESSES INCONTESTABLE FACTS PROVING THAT MADLEINE OLBRIGHT HAS SOLD HER SON According to Philip Radulovic US State Secretary M. Olbright has sold her son DWEIGHT, born from an affair with a certain " NYEGOSH " for US $50.000. - Hearing before the court in Paris on September 17. Podgorica, Aug.23 TANJUG In its today's edition the Podgorica daily DAN ( DAY ) publishes the statement made by Philip Radulovic, now living in Herceg Novi, against whom M. Olbright has filed a compaint before the court in Paris for false allegations on her account, published in the same daily, DAN, on March 27, in an article entitled " REVENGE FOR NYEGOSH " which reveals that the M. Olbright has sold her son DWEIGHT to a respectful family from Los Angeles for US $ 50.000." ...According to Radulovic the baby was born from M.O's affair with " NYEGOSH " and never met his "Mom" Madleine. Now, Dweight is a mechanical engineer and o prosperous businessman. At the appropriate moment Radulovic is ready to reveal the identity of " NYEGOSH" . The article of March 27, 1999 poses the question whether Radulovic heppens to be NYEGOSH and the father of M. Olbright's son. Radulovic insists to be confronted with Olbriht before the court. Secretary General Mrs. Jela Jovanovic Art historian === DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Waco
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: > > Still say Koresh and his Branch DavIDIOTS deserved their fate...eh, it's > not like we lost the cure for cancer, just some fringe scumbags... That's EXACTLY what the psycho- Nazis said about the Jewish Holocaust. Now we can see where you're coming from! Is your ba'al appeased -- or are more Blood Sacrifices desired, to cleanse your world of other 'trash' ? Why not petition Janet Reno? You two should get along fine. Hell, what's a little butchery among fiends? . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: To all you gun haters out there!]
-Caveat Lector- I'm one of those people ( NOT a Liberal ) who wants to prevent guns from getting into the hands of idiots like the one below. This kind of person is obviously too immature to be around lethal firearms. Joshua2 PS: D.C. is now only paying for guns that work. >Bill wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Chris Page wrote: > > > > Subject: > > Subject: To all you gun haters out there..Just recently posted to > > MSNBC Bulletin > > Board... > >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:53:57 -0600 > > From: spiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: (Recipient list suppressed) > > > > Just recently posted to MSNBC Bulletin Board: > > http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/msnbc-current/posts/cx/132420.asp > > > > Subject: To all you gun haters out there.. > > From: JEMIII > > Host: arc0a52.bf.sover.net > > Date: Tue Aug 24 17:08:09 > > > > Did you know that D.C. has a gun buy back program and lets you remain > > anonymous when you turn a gun in? Up until last week, anyway. Well, it > > gave me an idea, being a gun owner and all, so guess what I did a little > > while ago? - Yep, I turned in a whole pass'l of hardware to our dear ol > > gov't. I spent the previous 2 years collecting all the junk, non-firing, > > worthless examples of the modern firearm and turned them all in.(Really- > > none were repairable!) I made nearly six grand on the deal. With the > > proceeds, I turned around and bought (yes, bought!) some really serious > > hardware that actually will fire if it becomes necessary to test out > > some ammunition now and then. It just goes to show that democracy really > > does work. The city of D.C. paid for a bunch of new guns and I didn't > > pay anything but a few dollars here and there for "junk". The kicker?=== > > I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN D.C.- I JUST DROVE THERE. I COUDN'T FEEL ANY BETTER > > IF I HAD JUST PLOWED MY BOOT UP KLINTON'S SS. > > > > BY FOR NOW. GOTTA GO. SIGN ME "ONE MORE STRIKE AGAINST ALL JERK'IN > > LIBERAL LEFT GUN HATERS. AND HAVE A REAL NICE DAY! > > > > Message thread: > > To all you gun haters out there.. - JEMIII Tue Aug 24 17:08:09 > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Police org'n call for blanket DNA testing
-Caveat Lector- forwarded Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart >From: "Solutions International" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:49:41 + >Subject: (Fwd) [FP] Police organization call for blanket DNA testing --- Forwarded Message Follows --- >From: "ScanThisNews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To:"ScanThisNews Recipients List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [FP] Police organization call for blanket DNA testing >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:30:58 -0500 >Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == SCAN THIS NEWS 8/23/99 ===[forwarded MSNBC article]=== Police chiefs call for DNA testing Samples would be taken from all crime suspects [http://www.msnbc.com/news/302042.asp] By Hans H. Chen APBNEWS.COM Law enforcement officials are calling for everysuspect placed under arrest to have a DNA sample taken. - NEW YORK, Aug. 18 _ A plan by New York City - police commissioner Howard Safir to take DNA - samples from everyone arrested has received the - backing of an influential police organization. MEETING AT the New York Police Department headquarters, the executive committee of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) on Saturday voted unanimously to approve Safir's resolution calling for states and the federal government to fund the DNA sampling of criminal suspects upon their arrest. Currently, the FBI coordinates a database of DNA samples collected by 14 states. But each state collects DNA samples according to its own laws and usually only from people who have already been convicted of crimes. The IACP's resolution calls for a standardized collection procedure of everyone who is arrested for a crime. The sample would be destroyed if charges were dropped or the suspect acquitted. "We don't wait until conviction to fingerprint someone," said IACP President Ronald Neubauer, chief of the St. Peters, Mo., Police Department. "We fingerprint them upon arrest. That's the same principle here." VOTE EXPECTED IN OCTOBER Saturday's vote sends the resolution to the IACP's 16,000 members for approval at the group's annual meeting in late October. Members of the IACP executive committee said they were confident the general assembly would approve the resolution. "There's no question that this will pass because DNA is such a valuable tool and such an innovative mechanism we can use," Neubauer said. "I look at it in terms of being able to look at people who did not commit the crime as well as those who did." Safir first proposed entering DNA from arrestees into a database last year. He said the move would solve crimes by enlarging the pool of possible matches for DNA taken from crime scenes. With discarded cigarette butts, dried saliva and chewing gum all now yielding crime scene DNA, the need to compile a criminal database of DNA samples becomes all the more important, IACP members said. "Anything that helps in identification of individuals is certainly a great aid," said Chief William Nolan of the North Little Rock, Ark., police, who also serves as the IACP's general chairman for its Division of State Associations of Chiefs of Police. "DNA is every bit as good if not better than fingerprints have been in the past." --- [Sidebar:]`DNA includes all sorts of information about you and your family, and I personally would not want that information to be in the government's hands for any reason that it shouldn't be.' _ EMILY WHITFIELD ACLU --- CRITICS RAISE PRIVACY CONCERNS But civil libertarians say that collecting DNA from criminal suspects raises privacy concerns that fingerprints never broached. "Fingerprints are a two-dimensional representation of your fingertip," said Emily Whitfield, a spokeswoman for the American Civil Liberty Union's national headquarters in New York City. "DNA is a sample from which scientists have already identified 4,000 indicators for disease. "DNA includes all sorts of information about you and your family, and I personally would not want that information to be in the government's hands for any reason that it shouldn't be. And if I'm arrested for jaywalking or littering, or any minor thing, I don't want to be giving up my DNA for that." SYSTEM ALREADY BACKLOGGED Collecting DNA evidence from all criminal suspects would require enormous amounts of money at a time when the DNA testing system is already severely backlogged. Across the country, DNA labs are facing a backlog of more than 450,000 DNA samples taken just from those convicted of crimes. The National Commission on the Future of DNA Evidence, a federal advisory body formed last fall by Attorney General Janet Reno, called for $22.5 million to clear up the backlog. Last month, the commission also said taking DNA samples from arrestees was too costly and unfeasible. But members of the IACP said their resolution called for
[CTRL] Fw: FBI to acknowledge use of pyrotechnic devices
-Caveat Lector- Source: Dallas Morning News http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/0825tsw1teargas.htm FBI to acknowledge use of pyrotechnic devices New account on Branch Davidian fire expected 08/25/99 By Lee Hancock / The Dallas Morning News °1999, The Dallas Morning News AUSTIN - The FBI is preparing to acknowledge in a formal statement that its agents fired pyrotechnic tear gas grenades on the last day of the Branch Davidian siege, senior federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday. The statement would represent a reversal from the federal government's adamant, long-held position that the FBI used no device capable of sparking a fire on the day the Branch Davidian compound burned near Waco. Earlier this week, former senior FBI official Danny Coulson told The Dallas Morning News that pyrotechnic grenades had been used on April 19, 1993, the day that the compound burned with David Koresh and more than 80 followers inside. Mr. Coulson's statement was the first time that a former or current federal law enforcement official publicly acknowledged the use of pyrotechnic devices on April 19. The government has long fended off accusations that FBI agents touched off the fire on that day, but Mr. Coulson said the pyrotechnic grenades were not responsible. Earlier Tuesday, Texas Department of Public Safety Commission Chairman James B. Francis said the Texas Rangers have "overwhelming evidence" supporting Mr. Coulson's statement about the use of pyrotechnic devices. "There are written reports by Rangers, there is photographic evidence, there is physical evidence, all three of which are problematic," said Mr. Francis. Later, officials with the U.S. Justice Department began backing away from their long-held assertion that the FBI used no pyrotechnic devices when it launched a tear gas assault to end the 51-day standoff with the Branch Davidians. "We've seen the reports, and we're trying to get to the bottom of them," said Justice Department spokesman Myron Marlin, declining to comment further. Senior federal law enforcement officials in Washington said Tuesday night that the FBI was drafting a statement that would confirm that two pyrotechnic devices were used. A spokesperson at FBI headquarters initially told reporters that a statement would be released Tuesday afternoon but later said it had been postponed until Wednesday. Mr. Coulson, a former assistant deputy director of the FBI and founding commander of the hostage rescue team, told The News this week that he recently learned that two M-651 CS tear gas grenades were fired hours before the compound burned. Rangers' inquiry The issue is a major focus of an ongoing inquiry by the Texas Rangers. It is also a key allegation in a federal wrongful death lawsuit in which surviving Branch Davidians and families of the dead have alleged that government wrongdoing and negligence caused the tragedy. The issue also was a factor in a decision by the state DPS to persuade a federal judge in Waco to take control of all the evidence in the case. U.S. District Judge Walter Smith issued a sweeping order on Aug. 8 requiring federal authorities to turn over all physical evidence, documents, recordings and photographs connected to the Branch Davidian tragedy. A law enforcement official familiar with the Rangers inquiry said Tuesday that the agency has positively identified a shell casing recovered from near the compound as part of an M-651 CS canister, a 40 mm U.S. military device that releases tear gas with a burning explosive capable of sparking fires. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Rangers also have strong evidence that it was used by the FBI on April 19. The official said the shell casing's markings and distinctive shape are unique to the M-651. "There is no question of what it is and where it came from," the official said. That information was among findings shared Tuesday afternoon with two congressional investigators, who flew to Austin for a private briefing on the Rangers inquiry. "We look forward to getting to the bottom of it," said one investigator, speaking on condition of anonymity. He declined further comment. Attorney General Janet Reno and other senior Justice Department and FBI officials have repeatedly told congressional committees, federal courts and the public that the federal government used nothing capable of starting a fire on April 19. But federal law enforcement officials in Washington confirmed Tuesday that FBI agents did use the two grenades on the 19th. They were fired into a construction pit that contained a tunnel entrance leading to the compound. The sources said the devices were fired at 6:07 a.m., just after tanks began spraying tear gas into the compound. The M-651s were used because nonpyrotechnic gas rounds known as "Ferrets" were not adequately penetrating the area, the source said.
[CTRL] ABOUT TODAY - Racist Lawyers; Domain Decision; More (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:32:59 -0400 From: Jake Levich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ABOUT TODAY - Racist Lawyers; Domain Decision; More ABOUT TODAY 25 August 1999 [Unsubscribe instructions below] HOT TODAY --- CAN RACISTS BE LAWYERS? The Illinois Bar has reportedly denied admission to white supremacist Matthew Hale, saying he flunks the "moral character" test for lawyers. Law Guide Paul Reed looks at the implications. http://law.about.com/library/weekly/aa082499.htm COURT: YOU'RE MASTER OF YOUR DOMAIN In a landmark decision, a federal appeals court in California has ruled that a trademark owner cannot prevent others from registering coincidental domain names. Web Search Guide Chris Sherman reports. http://websearch.about.com/library/weekly/aa082499a.htm :: Advertisement : You're busy. Family and friends have birthdays, children and pets need shots, cars need oil. You forget. Don't. Let MSNBC and LifeMinders give you personalized email tips and reminders, and win $5000! http://clicks.about.com/49/941.htm?PM=135 Guide of the Day ARTHRITIS: Guide Carol Eustice has key resources and advice. http://arthritis.about.com/mbody.htm Reuters Headlines --- * Turkish Quake Toll Revised Down Dramatically http://headlines.about.com/index5.htm * Hurricane Watch Issued For Bahamas, U.S. Eyes Storms http://headlines.about.com/index6.htm * China, U.S. To Resume WTO Talks In September http://headlines.about.com/index7.htm --- More About --- * Birth control beepers, from Women's Health Guide Tracee Cornforth. http://womenshealth.about.com/library/weekly/aa082599.htm * U.S. executions rapped, from Human Rights Guide Kevin Reid. http://humanrights.about.com/library/weekly/aa082399.htm * AOL meets AA, from Alcoholism Guide Buddy T. http://alcoholism.about.com/library/weekly/aa990825.htm -- Today's Poll -- WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF AS A FEMINIST? To cast your vote, visit About.com's home page, http://about.com --- Talk About --- TODAY'S CHAT HIGHLIGHTS Weight Loss * Computer Games * Country Music * US Politics * More Times and details: http://talk.about.com/chatcentral/index.htm FORUM POST OF THE DAY: Breast Cancer and Hype Women's Health: Aug 21, 02:22 pm "What cancer is most prevalent? It is NOT breast cancer! Breast cancer is simply an avenue traveled by opportunistic people who play upon the ignorant to put money in their pocket." --LINDA001 http://about.delphi.com/ab-womenshealth/start/?msg=242.1 :: Advertisement : Free E-mail: @mail.com, @usa.com, @cheerful.com and more. Mail.com makes it easy to set up a free, personalized e-mail address that you can access any time and anywhere. Click here to sign up now. http://clicks.about.com/218/839.htm?PM=135 Don't Forget About -- CARDS FOR EVERY OCCASION http://cards.about.com/index.htm BACK TO SCHOOL SWEEPSTAKES http://sweepstakes.about.com/backtoschool/index.htm How to Unsubscribe -- To remove your email address from this newsletter, go here: http://talk.about.com/newsletter/index.htm?COB=home&PID=&command=unsubscribe Check boxes as appropriate, enter the email address under which you're subscribed, and click the "Unsubscribe" button. Please be sure to enter your email address exactly as you did when subscribing. -- Parting Words - About Today, a free daily newsletter, lets you know what's happening right now, throughout the world and across About.com's hundreds of GuideSites. For updates, breaking news, and more of our best, see http://today.about.com/index.htm MANAGE YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS: Change addresses, subscribe, unsubscribe: http://talk.about.com/newsletter/index.htm FEEDBACK: Give me a piece of your mind -- or several pieces. I can't always respond to your mail personally, but I try. Jake Levich, About.com Managing Editor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Find us on the Web at http://about.com - *About This Newsletter* You are currently subscribed to the About.com Today newsletter. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectru
Re: [CTRL] NASA PRESSURED TO RESCUE SATELLITE (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- We need a Fountain of Paradise badly MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:52:53 -0400 (EDT) > From: CharlesSmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: NASA PRESSURED TO RESCUE SATELLITE > > NASA PRESSURED TO RESCUE COMMERCIAL SATELLITE > > Hughes and a satellite insurance group are pressuring NASA to > send a Space Shuttle to rescue a lost commercial satellite. The > 9,500 pound HS-601 Orion satellite was placed into an incorrect > orbit by a malfunction in the Boeing/Douglas Delta III rocket. > The proposed rescue would have NASA Shuttle astronauts catch the > $150 million wayward satellite by hand, and re-attach a new > rocket booster to kick it into a correct orbit for use. > > NASA and Hughes are locked in negotiations on the price structure > for a Shuttle rescue but the proposed mission has also > encountered political and technical opposition. A MIT study of > previous NASA satellite rescues determined that the agency lost > money and that such missions were very risky for both the Shuttle > and the astronauts. NASA Shuttle rescues have resulted in > repaired satellites being reused, including a Loral Intelsat that > was later re-launched back into space by a Chinese Long March > booster. > > MIT, however, concluded that NASA should not engage in such > missions unless the satellite was considered to be a valuable > national security asset. While it is clear that the commercial > Orion does not qualify as a national security asset in space, > Hughes officials noted that the satellite was intended to > generate over a billion dollars in income. > > LORAL PAYS CHINESE ARMY FOR SATELLITE TIME > > LORAL has spent the $265 million insurance pay-off for the failed > satellite. The Orion satellite was purchased by Loral to be > stationed over Borneo in the Pacific for a new, high speed, > internet connection between Asia and the United States. Loral > was forced by the launch failure to lease satellite time for $300 > million from APT Satellite Company in Hong Kong, a venture backed > by the Chinese Army unit COSTIND. APT stock soared on the news of > the Loral contract. No word from the Chinese Army. > > CLINTON SAYS NO TO LORAL > > The U.S. Dept. of State has again denied LORAL's request to > export the CHINASAT 8 satellite. Loral's license to export the > Chinasat 8 was revoked last December following allegations that > Loral and Hughes had transferred military space technology > directly to the Chinese Army. > > State Dept. spokesman James Rubin said, "The past behavior of the > exporting company in general is highly relevant." > > Industry officials are speculating that the denial is a warning > shot from the Clinton White House aimed at Loral. Loral > officials are reported to be co-operating with FBI investigators > in the CHINA-GATE scandal. One allegation making waves is that > Loral officials have pointed the finger at Bill Clinton, stating > that he offered waivers for satellite exports to the Chinese > Army. The sudden flurry of allegations has led to a chill in the > formerly close relationship between Loral and the Clinton > administration. > > = > Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT > > FROM THE DESK OF:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *Mike Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends >Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. > = > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic scre
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No stars were artistically destroyed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # College Students Think Serious Illness Can Be 'Payback'. NEW YORK - A survey of college students finds that many subscribe to the unscientific notion that serious and fatal illness is sometimes a payback for bad behavior. "Even adults abandon scientific reasoning under certain circumstances" - http://foxnews.com/health/082499/payback.sml : Do you earn your diseases? Did your karma run over my dogma? Do what goes around, come around? Is cancer evidence of sin? Do aliens/demons punish you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE SOLDIER AND THE HUNCHBACK (A.Crowley) INQUIRY: What is Scepticism? The word means looking, questioning, investigating. One must contemptuously dismiss the Christian liar's gloss which interprets "sceptic" as "mocker"; though in a sense it is true for him, since to inquire into Christianity is assuredly to mock at it... http://www.chesco.com/~aconry/lib_0148.html : Do you inquire, investigate, question, mock? Does seeking breed contempt? Do you prefer questions or answers? Are answers of any use? Is mockery fun? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Falung Gong head cancels UK trip. LONDON (AP) The leader of the Falun Gong spiritual group has canceled plans to meet his British followers, ending a diplomatic row between China and Britain. A spokeswoman for Li Hongzhi, the New York-based leader of the group, said his decision not to make the trip was based on his own busy schedule and not diplomatic pressures. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560855944-0e7 : Is your spiritual movement a security threat to one or more nations? Are one or more nations threatening your spirit? Are your differences immense?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ MAPPA MUNDI. Gaze into your monitor; focus beyond the orderly rows of pixels, past the circuitry, farther even than the orbiting communications satellites. If you look far enough, can you see data-quasars and info- nebulae? Looking into cyberspace, what do you see? http://mappa.mundi.net/ : Where do you see more: on TV, in your computer, out the window, into your imagination/soul/fantasies, underwater? How far can you focus? What's there? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Number of Italians that have turned to the supernatural to solve problems of love, health and work: 10 million. Amount of money Italians spend yearly on fortune-telling, astrology and spiritualism: one billion lire ($547,000). Number of Italians that believed they were victims of fraud: 1.2 million : Do supernatural advisors/entities/forces help you solve problems of love, health and work? Do they charge much? Do they defraud you? Are you happy?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Big Brother, Big Fun at Amazon. A new Amazon.com service designed to create shopping communities worries some customers who are concerned about potential corporate espionage and threats to individual privacy. The feature lets anyone view books, movies, and CDs ordered by amazon.com customers at corporations, nonprofit groups, and govt agencies. Show your hand: http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21417.html : Do you care if everyone knows what your read/hear/think/see? Do you have anything to hide? Why? Are you ashamed, illegal, kinky, devious, alien? Is privacy meaningful, attainable, chimerical? Would you prefer a group-mind? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Fluoride-O-Rama: # The Fight Over Fluoride Continues: http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/98/Nov/18/lifestyle/FLUO18.htm http://www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html @ "Scientific Facts on the Biological Effects of Fluorides": http://www.sonic.net/~kryptox/fluoride.htm @ Fluoride http://www.garynull.com/documents/fluoridation.htm http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Nutrition&Mind/nutrition&mind-7.htm @ Fluoride: http://www.fluoride-journal.com/ http://www.cadvision.com/fluoride/index.htm http://www.holisticmed.net/add/mullenix.txt @ Intl Society for Fluoride Research: http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/ # Presentation related to fluoride compounds and neurotoxicity: "Study flags new formaldehyde risks": http://www.msnbc.com/news/231529.asp#BODY @ Fluoride & the A-Bomb Program. During the ultra-secret Manhattan Project, a report was commissioned to assess the effect of fluoride on humans. That report was classified "secret" for reasons of "national security". http://www.altnews.com.au/nexus/fluoridebomb.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Yuckiest Site on the Internet: http://www.yucky.com/ @ Locus - Maps Over Time: http://mappa.mundi.net/locus/ @ An Internet Prayer Wheel: http://mappa.mundi.net/cartography/Wheel/ $ iButton - take data anywhere: http://www.ibutton.com/ibuttons/index.html
[CTRL] Fwd: FBI CRACKS!! INCENDIARIES FIRED AT WACO!!
8.25.99 FBI CRACKS!! ADMITS Incendiary devices Fired Into Waco Davidian Compound! At long last the FBI, Murderer-General Janet Reno and Murderer-in-Chief Bill Clinton have BEGUN to crack under the tidal wave of evidence now coming forth proving homicidal, savage Gestapo-like brutality on the part of federal law enforcement personnel during their outrageous and fundamentally illegitimate "siege' of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. These criminals have finally begun admitting what so many have known about and demanded justice about for SO LONG--that feds intentionally and murderously fired incendiary devices unto the compound shortly before the entire place erupted into mass of explosive flames, killing over 80 innocent human beings, including upwards of 2 dozen children. The long, heartbreaking but necessary journey towards justice for those murdered and punishment for the guilty is now underway. We must not stop until the murdering fed swine are made to pay the most severe penalties imaginable for what they authorized and carried out that gruesome day. JUSTICE for Reno and all the rest! Never give up! John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/24/fbi.waco/index.html FBI to acknowledge firing potentially flammable devices at Waco August 24, 1999 Web posted at: 7:31 p.m. EDT (2331 GMT) >From Terry Frieden at the Justice Department WASHINGTON (CNN) -- FBI officials late Tuesday were set to officially drop their long-held claim that agents had not fired any potentially flammable devices into the vicinity of the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas, the day it erupted in flames, killing more than 80 people. FBI sources tell CNN the agency plans to release a formal statement Wednesday acknowledging for the first time that two CS gas canisters were fired at a concrete bunker in a pit outside the wooden structures which went up in flames hours later. But the FBI still insists it is not responsible for causing the blaze. "The ordnance was fired at the bunker in a direction far away from the compound," an official said. The FBI said the ordnance used was not designed to be pyrotechnic, but could start a fire under certain circumstances. The bureau insisted that in this case the canisters simply bounced off the roof of the bunker and fell into a puddle. The FBI acknowledgement that even potentially flammable grenades were fired in the direction of the compound on April 19, 1993, is a source of embarrassment to both the FBI and Justice Department, officials said privately. Attorney General Janet Reno, FBI Director Louis Freeh and their subordinates have repeatedly denied any such devices were fired on the day of the fatal fire. The FBI's revised position came just one day after the Dallas Morning News quoted former Deputy Assistant FBI Director Danny Coulson as revealing that two pyrotechnic grenades were fired several hours before the blaze began, but were not to blame for the inferno later the same day. Government investigations determined Branch Davidian leader David Koresh and some of his followers set the fires that destroyed their compound. The issue recently re-surfaced following allegations by surviving Branch Davidians and family members of victims who are suing the government in a wrongful death lawsuit. The case is scheduled to be heard in federal court in Waco. Reno last month repeated the Justice Department's long-standing position that no pyrotechnic devices were fired on the day of the fire. Her chief spokesman, Myron Marlin, said Tuesday that Justice officials had asked the FBI to review records in the case following Coulson's statement.
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: I'm back -- and Big Brother at Amazon.com?
[I am back from 10 days abroad. Saw family near London and Dublin and explored the glorious and remote northwestern shore of Ireland near Clifden. I thank Adam for moderating politech in my absence. --Declan] http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21417.html Big Brother, Big Fun at Amazon by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. 25.Aug.99.PDT A new Amazon.com service designed to create shopping communities worries some customers who are concerned about potential corporate espionage and threats to individual privacy. The feature lets anyone view books, movies, and CDs ordered by amazon.com customers at corporations, nonprofit groups, and government agencies. Some examples include evidence that Intel engineers are busily buying up books on Linux device drivers, that Netscape programmers are building certain protocols into future products, and that US Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist's book on the history of impeachment is still a popular read among Congressional aides. [...remainder snipped...] -- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ --
[CTRL] The media and [M] Monroe
-Caveat Lector- from: http://bounce.to/thetruth http://bounce.to/thetruth">The media and Monroe - MARYLIN MONROE | STARR VERSUS CLINTON | LEWINSKY | WILLEY | NIXON | UPDATES | Update: Marylin Monroe was under lockstep surveillance. She hung around a diverse crowd that included un-Americans like Arthur Miller, and she could not even fart without blowing air in J. Edgar Hoover's ear. Hoover used the Mafia to spy on Communists and Marylin Monroe's entire house was bugged -audio and video. Incidentally, the guy who bugged her house died in prison, to keep the rumor that her murder was recorded, out of the realm of absolute proof. In retrospect however, given all we know about her obvious, provable murder [even the first cop on the scene claims that she was murdered, this is no fuzzy verdict] every act of cover up is a further piece of evidence. In the final analysis, J. Edgar Hoover and his Mafia cohorts are directly responsible for the murder of Marylin Monroe. Lockstep surveillance precludes every other possibility. [Incidentally, the same can be said about the murder of Martin Luther King. Like Harold Weisberg, the unrivaled assassinations expert has indicated, the evidence against James Earl Ray had already been amassed and bundled up, not after, but before King was shot, and it does not take a genius to arrive at the conclusion that James Earl Ray was framed. In the final analysis, if Hoover's FBI wanted to impose lockstep surveillance, Hoover's FBI had the duty and the obligation to provide lockstep security.] Motive: Marylin Monroe also hung around with the likes of Johnny Roselli, who was angry at Kennedys for giving the Mafia a hard time and who bragged about "friends in high places" who were going to knock Kennedy off. These assassination rumors invariably disturbed Marylin Monroe, but her frantic attempt to warn the Kennedys, was obviously thwarted. If there is one consistent element to the Kennedy assassination it is this: anybody who knew too much was murdered to keep the truth as obscure as possible. Johnny Roselli certainly knew too much. In the late 1960's, Roselli cooperated with the authorities to promote the stupid claim that Castro was responsible for the Kennedy assassination. Roselli was too deep, inside the cover up, and he had to be taken care of, before his role was uncovered. Not surprisingly, Johnny Roselli was used and then he was murdered. And Lee Harvey Oswald had nothing to do with it. Backgrounder: We are forever astounded by the lack of knowledge that surrounds the Kennedy assassination. Take the ignorance which surrounds Jim Garrison. Jim Garrison was not the truth seeking crusader that Oliver Stone created. Jim Garrison was a corrupt, New Orleans District Attorney who gave the Mafia free reign in New Orleans. His tactic was very simple. By busting low level criminals, Jim Garrison gave the Carlos Marcello Mafia network the opportunity to dominate the rackets. At the same time, the punks that he put behind bars, created the impression that he was an aggressive, competent, law enforcement official. A former G-man, Jim Garrison was forever loyal to tactics that J. Edgar Hoover practiced on the national level. Like J. Edgar Hoover, Jim Garrison, was a Mafia asset -they both used the Mafia to suit their own, peculiar interests. Hoover used the Mafia to target liberals or Communists -he did not distinguish the difference, and Garrison always followed the track that Hoover laid. By the late 1960's, Kennedy assassination critics had successfully exposed the absurdity of the "single bullet theory" and two out of three Americans did not believe the preposterous claim that Oswald had acted alone. [oh yeah, Oswald created the Warren Commission to cover up the truth and when that fraud was exposed, he appointed Jim Garrison to destroy the trail of the assassination critics, duh, that makes sense -doesn't it?] Jim Garrison elevated the meaning of "if you can't beat them, join them" to the height of absurdity, Jim Garrison burst upon the trail of the assassination critics with the bold assertion that he knew exactly who had murdered John F. Kennedy, and that it was a matter of days before he exposed the entire plot -down to naming every single assassin. While Jim Garrison hogged the attention of the media circus that he deliberately created, he simultaneously "put the squeeze" on witnesses who knew Oswald. In essence, he treated every Kennedy assassination witness the way that Ken Starr treated witnesses like Susan McDougal -tell the truth and I'll prosecute you for perjury, give me what I want and receive a 'get out of jail free' card. In particular, Garrison targeted witnesses who were in a position to expose the obvious fact that Lee Harvey Oswald WAS NOT a Communist, and the only rationale behind the fact that he had evidently defected to the Soviet Union was that Oswald sought the sort of adventure that his fictional hero, James Bond, scored in the movies. But thi
[CTRL] ORBIT: incoming, signals, eclipse anomalies
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - ORBIT: incoming, signals, eclipse anomalies - Subject: ORBIT: incoming, signals, eclipse anomalies From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phikent) Date: Wed, 25 August 1999 05:59 AM EDT Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ORBIT: incoming, signals, eclipse anomalies CyberSpace ORBIT http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html Kent Steadman, editor COMMENTARY: "You prove a detection method by proving that you have detected something! When something zooms into view, in synch with some type of signal reception, I will be a believer..." RESPONSE: Okay, Heads up. Here is what I have so far in the way of visual and reported data: 1. Anomalies were seen near the sun during the eclipse, some commentary indicates "bogies on the approach." see overviews, commentary, data: http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback43.html http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback42.html specific figures: full eclipse 6:00 o'clock, bottom: http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/beadsx.jpg details of above: http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/clipsde5.jpg http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/clipsde3.jpg animation: http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/eclmo2.gif additional bogey, the scimitar: http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/ecli2.jpg (also look at crop circle last April 15) http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/EclipseSun.jpg screenshot taken from a cameraman pan-out, Turkey: http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/wspot2.jpg Turkey eclipse animation: http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/anecli2.gif an object currently orbiting the sun at the seven to eight o'clock position. http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/8obj.gif 2. Astronomers baffled by dark streaks across sky http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/recent-elfrad.html commentary: EMAIL, 08/16/1999 6:20:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time: The picture off the Discovery Channel is a big rock, much closer than we think. The dark streaks across sky are due to the light having to take multiple paths around that object and setting up the canceling pattern here on Earth. The two dark streaks are bands of light canceling each other around that object. In other words, when the sun's brightness was diminished it forced limited sun rays to travel around the object. As we engineers know, the bands of lights are setup due to the Wave Functions of Light itself, adding and subtracting with each other after taking alternate paths around the object. You got my attention... Donus 3. Survivor of Turkish quake describes a fireball "It was awful," he said. "It was like a science fiction movie when a fireball rushes toward you and blows open your doors. I saw it coming clearly through the window in my son's room. It looked like a red fireball." http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback43.html 4. Recent anomaly near Venus on recent SOHO C3 http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/comanon.jpg animation http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/eclipse/coanom.gif 5. Reports of lunar flash or object passing in front of moon: http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback43.html EDITOR'S NOTE: To my knowledge the ELFRAD signal has not been connected to Comet Lee or any other body. Also check latest ELFRAD statement concerning harmonics which in my interpretation makes the actual distance as yet undetermined; however, I've been getting a boatload of reports concerning a lunar anomaly, something passing in front of or eclipsing the moon. HEADS UP! EMAIL, 08/22/1999 6:00:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time: At just before midnight (EDT) on Friday night I was looking at the moon while stopped at a traffic light. While observing, I noticed a bright blue flash dead center in the visible part of the moon. I am curious if anyone else noticed this or if it was perhaps one of those sparkles seen after rubbing your eyes. EMAIL, (separate source) 08/23/1999 5:12:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time: Did any one else see anything weird about the moon on the 19th and 20th of Aug 1999. We witnessed something that hid 25% of the moon so at the time was at nearly 1/2 or at 1/2 moon, and the top half of the moon was also black. It lasted for less than 5 mins but was witnessed by 3 people. The moon appeared like a slice of cheese. It happened sometime around 10:30/ 10:45 on the evenings of 19/20. It looked like something came between the moon and the sun but on the opposite side to the earth? Anything special? EMAIL: 08/23/1999 7:26:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time: My husband saw the same event on the night of August 19/20/ 1999. He was working all night repairing storm damage when at around 12:30 a.m. central time he looked up and noticed (behind the clouds) a bright light. An intense bright orange. He knew it wasn't a planet or star. After studying it for a while he realized that it was indeed the moon. He described it in almost the same way as you did. He said it lasted about 5 minutes at "around" 12:30 in the morning (10:30 PM Pacific). It appeared to be in the shape of a "hunk of c
[CTRL] [1] Nixon's Darkest Secret: Operation Redrock
-Caveat Lector- http://www.strategicintel.com/redrock1.htm http://www.strategicintel.com/redrock1.htm">RedRock1 - Nixon's Darkest Secret: Operation Redrock Introduction "Hell no, we won't go!" "Hell no, we won't go!" "Hell no, we won't go!" Chanted the crowds of anti-war demonstrators outside of the White House. News cameras zoomed in on the windows which represented the location of the Oval office. The silhouette of a man stood at the window watching the activities outside the White House. The television announcer's voice replaced the chants of the crowd,"Week after week, the dead keep arriving home to their final resting place, victims of a war that won't go away. A war that won't dissappear, despite promises from the White House that a plan is at hand to end this horrible conflict. It is the opinion of this correspondent that unless the President can make good on his campaign promise to end the war, his time in the oval office will be short. America is tired of burying their sons." "Shit, Alex, why can't we just bomb the hell out of them, then sweep them on the ground and end this thing! It can't be that difficult for a powerful force such as we are to destroy a small country of savages." The President turned from the window to receive his answer from General Alexander Haig, Assistant to Doctor Henry Kissinger, the National Security Advisor. "Mr. President," Haig began, "we can certainly put every American fighting man currently serving this wonderful country on Vietnam soil and sweep the enemy. Within three months we could disarm communist Vietnam of their weapons. Then we could withdraw totally, bringing every man home, as you promised. However, before we can leave that country, the communists will already have begun resupplying their soldiers. So, in answer, yes. If we escalate, we can win and withdraw." Then General Haig walked to the window and looked down at the crowds. "But how do you tell them that escalation of our war efforts, producing even more dead and wounded American Servicemen, will end the war. I don't believe that this is the answer." Nixon stood next to Haig, looking at the protesters. "Something has to be done for us to survive this!" Nixon said, quietly sinking disparingly back into depression. "And something will be done, Mr. President," Dr. Kissinger answered, "but it will require an aggressive campaign to involve the Southeast Asian countries. Those countries must be an active participant not only in their own defense, but in an offensive level. I will personally see that our promise to end this war is honored! I will be in Bangkok next week to prepare our allies for discussions concerning an allied plan to de-escalate our position in Vietnam." In support of Dr. Kissinger's plan, a team of professionals from both the military and civilian sectors were assembled in Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand. If our allies in Southeast Asia would not align themselves with the United States plan, then it would be the task of Team Red Rock to realign the allies prioritites. Thus, the beginning of operation "Red Rock". The team was assembled in Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand, the home of Task Force Alpha (TF "Alpha"). TF "Alpha" was tasked with supplying intelligence for the mission. The original thirteen-man team consisted of: 8 U.S. Army Green Berets 3 Navy Seals 2 Civilians (CIA) The training was performed over a four week period at NKP, Thailand. CHAPTER ONE I was an Air Force combat controller, assigned as a radio operator, on a forward air control (FAC) aircraft which was attached to Task Force Alpha (TF "Alpha"). I had been sent on a sixty-day temporary duty assignment (TDY) from the Third Mobile Communications Group based at Tinker, A.F.B., Oklahoma. Our communications team arrived at NKP just one week prior and was still getting acclimated to the Southeast Asian (SEA) environment. As an Airman First Class (A1C), I was the lowest ranking member of the unit, but I was the only Combat Controller (CCT). Master Sergeant Bobby Cox was our commander for the sixty day TDY, designed to set up a special communications center at the Task Force Alpha compound. Unfortunately, my equipment had yet to arrive and I was just "in the way", as Master Sergeant Cox put it. So the Colonel from TF "Alpha" assigned me elsewhere until my equipment arrived. I had always been fascinated by airplanes, from the small two-seater prop jobs all the way to the other end of the spectrum, the space program, and everything in between. As a matter of fact, the reason I joined the Air Force was in hopes that one day I would fly. Little did I know how soon that day would come. As usual, I was late getting to the Communications Center. Having come from Oklahoma and being in the Air Force, we had a leg up on the grunts. While packing our gear in Oklahoma, Master Sergeant Cox was adamant about procuring a large two-door refrigeration unit. The sensitive communications gear required a cool environment
[CTRL] Strategic Intelligence...What you don't know...
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.strategicintel.com/ http://www.strategicintel.com/">Strategic Intelligence...What you don't know... - Complete stories at site. Om K - --AP Newswire-- Non Government Site-CIA DIA SPY A Monthly Edition: cia MondaySaturday, August 21, 1999 Click on Bill's nose My Name is Bill And I'm a Sex-a-holic Hypersonic Attack Platform: The S3 Concept The KGB on CD-ROM Please visit our Sponsors Lots of fun Click and Play Free Search Strategic Intelligence Search for: Online StoreOnline BooksStrategic Intel ForumContact UsLinksU.S. NewspapersForeign NewspapersMajor NewswiresNews ServicesOther PublicationsSearch EnginesInternet NewsAudio LinksArchive EditionsSubmit Articles For Publication Submit Information Public Key J-Fax Private Communications Systems Executive Order Targets Internet by Pat Gaffney On August 5th, 1999, the President of the United States issued an Executive order to form a 'Working Group' designated to target "UNLAWFUL CONDUCT ON THE INTERNET". The tasking of a working group in lieu of a study group is indicative of an offensive posture. An offensive posture is one that is authorized to actively work within the bounds of existing laws, whereas a 'Study Group' is tasked with passive study and reporting...This analysis was completed by a former CIA analyst. Feds Want Authority to Secretly Crack Personal Computer Codes Associated Press The Clinton administration reportedly plans to ask Congress to give police authority to secretly go into people's personal computers and crack their security codes The National Security Council: Tool of Presidential Crisis Management By Anthony Wanis St. John NSC's work and structure are subject to executive privilege. What do they do? Who are they? What restrictions apply? The National Security Agency Europe Blows Whistle on That Great Eavesdropper By Simon Davies Europe Blows Whistle on That Great Eavesdropper, the NSA. The top secret agency is spying for the U.S. in ways that other nations find increasingly alarming and intrusive. U.S. Fears Canal Closure...Begins Secret Negotiations with Panama Panamanian President-Elect Moscoso met with a group of unnamed U.S. congressmen and General Charles Wilhelm, commander of the U. S. Southern Command. Information obtained indicates that the U.S. government is actively seeking to continue maintaining a Panamanian presence. U.S. Drafting Plan for Computer Monitoring System By John Markoff A response to Federal concerns about cyberterrorism creates its own fears. Caymans Loose Private Banking Status...Feds Targeting all Private Banking Countries Federal officials boasted Monday that they have finally breached Cayman Islands bank secrecy with the aid of a former bank owner who provided records that exposed hundreds of U.S. citizens as tax cheats. Crypto Will Harm Society...Or So The Feds Want You To Think Widespread use of encryption technology would be "devastating" for US law enforcement and the national security establishment. Terrorists and spies can cause unspeakable damage without even the possibility of being stopped before it is too late. How Real Is Real?--Confusion, Disinformation, Communication In the topsy-turvy world of deliberate disinformation, the basic rule, to paraphrase Masterman, is that, rather than suppressing all enemy agents and thereby forcing the enemy to rebuild his spy nets, it is cheaper and more effective to "turn them around." Looking out: A view from China. Clinton and British intelligence. The American public would be amazed by the extent British intelligence has documented some of Clinton's activities and those of his friends. Cyberwar & High-Tech Spying Information warfare is now a reality. Get the 411 on the CIA's Information Warfare Center and read the DoD's strategic assessment of the Internet. Spy vs. Spy Spook Says He Questioned Chinese Embassy Target A mid-level intelligence officer assigned to the CIA persistently questioned the targeting of a building that turned out to be t
[CTRL] OEN 8/25/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe - Today's Lesson From The Ayn Rand Cult by Jeff Walker Science destroys myth, but doesn't create the kind of personal values or meanings that myth provides. So even when a worldview fades, for most former believers the sustaining morality it produced lingers, while for others, a replacement myth or religion is sought, even a cult or some ideological 'ism'. But just as the 'isms' of the twentieth century from communism to feminism and environmentalism--all at-least-partly irrationalist reactions against the transformations wrought by industrial capitalism--have been found spiritually wanting by a great many adherents, so too psychoanalysis and other pseudoscientific therapies and new religions rose up against the overwhelming dominant ethos of lingering nineteenth-century rationalism. Objectivism is a reassertion of the beliefs and values of industrial capitalism and rationalism in response to so much negative fallout from the ideologies, pseudosciences, therapies, and religions that pretend to replace them. In other words, Objectivism is the proffered cure for the side-effects of prior failed cures for capitalism-rationalism. It consists of what we began with, though with presumed impurities removed, and is propagandized with the same fervent religiosity as characterized by those creeds which once had success in opposing capitalism-rationalism. = Digital Society Movie Premiere Will Take Place on Internet In other news, Clinton says he never heard of the Cali cartel LOS ANGELES - A company that produced a movie called ''What Dreams May Come'' has agreed to produce a film that will be released initially through the Web, a concept that Hollywood once saw as its worst nightmare. While many films are available on the Internet, backers of this project said it represented one of the first times that a movie by an established filmmaker was being made specifically for initial Internet distribution. The movie is being produced by Metafilmics, a four-year-old company that specializes in entertainment with spiritual themes. Its first theatrical movie, last year's ''What Dreams May Come,'' starred Robin Williams and won an Academy Award for best visual effects. The Internet movie, called ''The Quantum Project,'' will be about a physicist who has a mystical experience and will be directed by Francis Glebas, the director of ''Fantasia 2000,'' a forthcoming movie from Walt Disney Co. Barnet Bain, a co-founder of Metafilmics, said the company was interested in the new artistic possibilities presented by the Internet and by the chance to be its own distributor. ''It's just the most glorious opportunity to have an extremely new canvas and be among the first to do it,'' Mr. Bain said. But he conceded that the company was hedging its bets: The $3 million budget is tiny by Hollywood standards. ''It's important that we stretch ourselves but not sink the ship,'' he said. The movie will be distributed by Sightsound.com, a Web site that will charge a fee to people who want to download the movie, probably a few dollars for someone who wants access to the movie for, say, one to five days. An actual purchase would be more expensive. Sightsound.com is one of several new companies trying to offer movies over the Internet and generating interest in the movie business. Another company, Atomfilms, which specializes in short films, has attracted investments from Warner Brothers, Allen & Co., the media industry investment banking company, and Frank Biondi, the former chief executive of Universal Studios. Atomfilms, based in Seattle, announced agreements Monday to distribute some of its films through Warner Brothers Online, NBC's Snap.com and Real Networks Inc. ''The Quantum Project'' is scheduled to be available next May and will rely heavily on computer-generated animation, even though it will be a live-action film. It will be more than 40 minutes long but perhaps not as long as a full-length feature, an effort to minimize downloading time, Mr. Bain said. He said the company hoped that it could still show the movie in theaters even after its debut on the Web, perhaps by adding more visual effects for the theater version. The movie will also be available for television and home video, he added. Right now, full-length movies take hours, sometimes more than a day, to download using a conventional modem. The picture can be jerky and is confined to a small box on the screen. This is hardly a match for a movie theater or even a videocassette seen on a television. But as high-speed Internet connections grow more common, those barriers are expected to fall. Hollywood studios are watching warily, anxious to make sure they do not lose control of distribution, as record companies have to some extent. Indeed, pirated films like the recent '
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bankers write sermons for churches
-Caveat Lector- What gets me is the people pulling their money out of the banks...but leaving it in Federal Reserve FUNDS! DhI convinced one man there is a high probability that banks are going to fall around y2k, plenty of precedent for that, and I have no way to judge the future but by the past, so this man goes and gets about 3000.00 dollars worth of Susan B Anthony Dollars and stashes 'em! Hows that for brainwashed? People don't even realize whats been done to the currency...its the currency itself thats been corrupted...no gold and silver out here anymore...the power is gone from the peoples handsif the banks fall its their monopoly money fake script paper and clad currency that will be worthless! Put it in silver and GOLD and GUNS! The whole last century appears to have been an elaborate hoarding scheme whereby precious metals were patiently mined out of the earth in every country of the world, to be hoarded to Europe...they have built the perfect beast...a real mess and the public is intellectually incapable of even seeing it...BG Das GOAT wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 99-08-24 23:43:19 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >``Whatever you do, don't bury your money in the backyard,'' says > >the text, sprinkled with allusions to Moses leading the children of Israel > >into a ``bright, hopeful future'' with God's help. > > "Whatever you do, DON'T take your money out of our hands!" PullEEZE! > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: To all you gun haters out there!]
-Caveat Lector- Chris Page wrote: > > Subject: > Subject: To all you gun haters out there..Just recently posted to > MSNBC Bulletin > Board... >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:53:57 -0600 > From: spiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: (Recipient list suppressed) > > Just recently posted to MSNBC Bulletin Board: > http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/msnbc-current/posts/cx/132420.asp > > Subject: To all you gun haters out there.. > From: JEMIII > Host: arc0a52.bf.sover.net > Date: Tue Aug 24 17:08:09 > > Did you know that D.C. has a gun buy back program and lets you remain > anonymous when you turn a gun in? Up until last week, anyway. Well, it > gave me an idea, being a gun owner and all, so guess what I did a little > while ago? - Yep, I turned in a whole pass'l of hardware to our dear ol > gov't. I spent the previous 2 years collecting all the junk, non-firing, > worthless examples of the modern firearm and turned them all in.(Really- > none were repairable!) I made nearly six grand on the deal. With the > proceeds, I turned around and bought (yes, bought!) some really serious > hardware that actually will fire if it becomes necessary to test out > some ammunition now and then. It just goes to show that democracy really > does work. The city of D.C. paid for a bunch of new guns and I didn't > pay anything but a few dollars here and there for "junk". The kicker?=== > I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN D.C.- I JUST DROVE THERE. I COUDN'T FEEL ANY BETTER > IF I HAD JUST PLOWED MY BOOT UP KLINTON'S SS. > > BY FOR NOW. GOTTA GO. SIGN ME "ONE MORE STRIKE AGAINST ALL JERK'IN > LIBERAL LEFT GUN HATERS. AND HAVE A REAL NICE DAY! > > Message thread: > To all you gun haters out there.. - JEMIII Tue Aug 24 17:08:09 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No ominous forecasts were murmured during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Accused Witches Stabbed To Death. JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) Two elderly South African women were stabbed to death with spears after they were accused of practicing witchcraft: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990825/08/odd-witches : How do you prefer to kill witches, warlocks, wizards: stabbing, burning, dismembering, other? Have you killed any witches lately? If they had any power, how did you manage to catch and kill them? Were they betrayed?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Buried Iceman Found. (ABC) The remains of a man found buried under the ice in north Canada remain somewhat of a mystery to archeologists. They think the body will provide clues to the history of Indians and their homeland. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/iceman990824.html : Why are no ET bodies found buried in ice, in pyramids, in fossil beds? Do they eat their dead? Is this 'Iceman' really an alien? How could you tell? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Cornell robot soccer team wins World Cup in Sweden. (U-WIRE) ITHACA, N.Y. The San Antonio Spurs and the Dallas Stars weren't the only teams crowned world champions this past summer. Cornell's robot soccer team took first place earlier this month at the Robot World Cup Initiative in Stockholm, Sweden. http://news.excite.com/news/uw/990824/odd-54 : Do you prefer athletes who are robots, humans, animals, aliens, A-Life? Do humans have a future in professional sports? Who would you bet on? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Symbiotic Star Blows Bubbles Into Space. A tempestuous relationship between an unlikely pair of stars may have created an oddly shaped, gaseous nebula that resembles an hourglass nestled within an hourglass. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990825081635.htm : Do you like to blow up stars for the aesthetics? Is galaxy-busting an art? What's your most beautiful supernova, black hole, cosmic collision? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Old English Market. (ABC) Under London's Royal Opera House, archaeologists have excavated a shopping center that thrived around 800 A.D., including a blacksmith shop, a studio, and a sword and tool repair shop. No Wendy's: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/excavation990818.html : Was it hard being a mall-rat 1200 years ago? How was the music piped in? Did aliens bother to shop there, or did they stick to their own mini-malls? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Experimental X-34 Rocket Plane To Begin Extensive Testing. NASA's experimental X-34 rocket plane will undergo testing in New Mexico, California and Florida under a test plan recently approved by Agency officials. Both schedule and cost implications are currently being evaluated. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990824201813.htm : What's your favorite spaceplane? Did aliens help us develop the X-34? Why? Do you enjoy testing spaceplanes? Is it better than working for a living?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Bomb-O-Rama: # POWERFUL TRUCK BOMB SHATTERS TALIBAN HEADQUARTERS - suspects U.S. involvement: http://cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9908/25/afghan.blast.ap/ # Taleban leader escapes bombing - several others killed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_429000/429665.stm # Strike in the Heart - Truck Bomb Blast Misses Taliban Leader: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/afghanistan_990825.html # FBI ADMITS FIRING POTENTIALLY FLAMMABLE DEVICES AT WACO - denies responsibility for fire: http://cnn.com/US/9908/24/fbi.waco/ http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/waco990824.html # Incendiary Devices WERE Used By Feds At Waco: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/wacoinc.htm # Texas Rangers Have Massive Evidence of Federal Brutality At Waco: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/wacohnt.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # New IE5 Security Bug The Worst Ever? http://www.internetnews.com/prod-news/print/0,1089,9_188461,00.html # Hackers Scanning For Trouble http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2319298-2,00.html # AOL Releases New IM Software: http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2319330-2,00.html # 11 Million Net Addicts? Come On! http://www.salonmagazine.com/tech/log/1999/08/24/addicts/print.html @ Reality won't go away: http://www.kolumbus.fi/lindstromit @ OPERATION HERMES: The Quest For The Legendary Egyptian Hall Of Records: http://www.osisnet.com/Hermes/intro.htm # LATEST UFO REPORTS: http://caus.org/mu082599.htm # PARANORMAL NEWS NETWORK: http://caus.org/pn082599.htm # PERSONAL CONTACT EXPERIENCES: http://caus.org/pc082599.htm @ Was AIDS Manmade? http://www.konformist.com/1999/aids/manmade.txt # Searching For L
[CTRL] Fwd: Release: Bush and Drugs
-Caveat Lector- > > Libertarians agree with George W. Bush: > Drug use should be a "private" matter > > WASHINGTON, DC -- Here's how to end the controversy over > Governor George W. Bush's alleged cocaine use: Simply give every > suspected drug user the same right to "privacy" the GOP presidential > front-runner demands, the Libertarian Party suggested today. > > "Let's treat every American like a presidential candidate: If > you've ever used drugs, you shouldn't have to answer questions about > it -- especially if doing so would invade your privacy, or if you now > consider previous drug use a mistake," proposed Steve Dasbach, the > party's national director. > > "Not only would such a don't-ask/don't-tell policy save the > $17 > billion the federal government currently spends on Drug Prohibition, > but it would also let hundreds of thousands of non-violent drug > offenders out of prison so they could lead productive lives -- and > maybe even run for president themselves as hypocritical Republicans." > > Over the past week, controversy has escalated over Bush's > persistent sidestepping of the "did-he-or-didn't-he?" question about > alleged cocaine use. While first refusing to answer the question, Bush > later claimed he hadn't used any illegal drugs in seven, then 15, then > 25 years. > > "I'm going to tell people I made mistakes and that I have > learned from my mistakes," said Bush in Columbus, Ohio. > > Interestingly, a number of Republicans who are otherwise > enthusiastic supporters of the War on Drugs agreed that cocaine use -- > by the millionaire sons of past GOP presidents, at least -- is no big > deal. > > For example, Elizabeth Dole said drug use was a "personal" > matter, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ), said people deserve "privacy" > on the issue. > > For once, Libertarians -- who have argued for years that Drug > Prohibition causes crime, threatens civil liberties, leads to police > and judicial corruption, and acts as a "price support system" for > criminals -- agree with the Republicans. > > "If we treated drug abuse as a personal, private problem -- > rather than a criminal issue -- we'd be a lot better off as a nation," > said Dasbach. "Instead of being thrown into jail, people would have > the option to seek counseling or medical help, or simply mature to the > point where drug or alcohol abuse was no longer part of their > lifestyle, as Governor Bush seems to have done." > > In fact, the only Republican who appears to disagree with > George W. Bush's claim that drug use should be a private issue > is...George W. Bush. As Texas governor, Bush signed a law that > toughened penalties for people convicted of possessing less than a > gram of cocaine. > > Which leads to another Libertarian proposal, said Dasbach: > Before politicians are allowed to vote on any Drug War legislation, > they should agree to be subjected to the same criminal penalties they > would impose on others. > > "It's quite simple: If Bush genuinely believes that people who > use cocaine belong in prison -- and if he has personally used cocaine > -- he should go to prison," said Dasbach. > > "Yes, our prisons are overcrowded because of the 1.5 million > people arrested on drug charges every year...but there's always room > for one more hypocritical politician who believes that what's good > enough for presidential candidates isn't good enough for ordinary > Americans." > > Kathleen "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free." - P. J. O'Rourke (1993) DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990825a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No revolts were crushed during production of this bulletin. What a relief. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The real truth about Crop Circles: Who are they'r creators?, why?, how?, why in England?, how to read the messages?, where is the proof?... Look deeply into the crystal ball, here: http://zetatalk.com/awaken/a22.htm http://zetatalk.com/awaken/a45.htm http://zetatalk.com/awaken/a79.htm : Have you encoded many messages in the crop circles you've created? Is DNA better for encoding messages than are crop circles? What do you have to say? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Real Estate Mogul Reaches For The Stars. (WSJ) LAS VEGAS - In 1947, Robert T. Bigelow's grandparents were driving through the desert near Las Vegas when a glowing red ball hurtled menacingly toward their car before making a sharp turn and disappearing. That was the story that his grandparents told Mr. Bigelow when he was a child. And he's sticking to it. Mr. Bigelow began quietly funding UFO research in 1990, and says he has already pumped as much as $10 million into the effort. http://msnbc.com/news/303522.asp : What kicked-off your quest for the unknown? Were you induced, shoved, led by the nose, tricked? Have you spent a lot of money on your search? Where?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Masonic Beliefs & Practices. "While there probably are some actual stone- workers who are Masons, Masonry does not teach is membership the literal techniques of stonework. Rather, it takes the actual 'operative' work of Medieval Masons and uses it as an allegory for moral development. Thus, the symbols of Masonry are the common tools that were used by medieval stonemasons: the gavel, the rule, the compass, the square, the level, etc. Each of these has a symbolic meaning in Masonry." Same as in life: http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/masons/mrituals.html : What are your favorite symbols? Do the meanings change over time? Did ETs implant those meanings in your consciousness? Would you prefer new symbols? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China vows to punish sect leaders. BEIJING (AP) -- China vowed to punish leading members of outlawed meditation group Falun Gong in the strongest indication yet that the group's organizers will be prosecuted. The order told cops to treat the group's practitioners as victims, unaware of the "political goals and evil motives." But they'll be firmly re-educated. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560851089-3a4 : Is your sect evil? Is your gov't evil? Are you a perpetrator or a victim? Do you have political goals, spiritual goals, unreal goals, galactic goals? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Institute of Metahistory. The Institute of Metahistory unites people who believe that the existing ideas of the past of the human civilization can be wrong in many respects, since they were evolved on the basis of data which can hardly be considered exhaustive, and bear the imprint of a vast number of stereotypes. We think that as a result of closer cooperation between different sciences, the renunciation of biased opinions and the arrogant confidence that modern science, at least basically, knows every- thing about everything, a fuller and more reliable picture of the past of the human civilization can be reconstructed. http://www.imh.ru/main_e.htm : Do you know everything about everything, everything about something, some- thing about nothing, nothing about nothing? Do you accumulate metaknowledge? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiBriefs: # No evidence Ford used slave labor. WARSAW (AP) Auschwitz historians have proven that Ford vehicles were used at the Nazi death camp, but have found no evidence that the company used inmates as slave laborers. Rendered for grease? http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560850928-223 # Modified cows could fight MS. (BBC) A human gene could be introduced into cows in an attempt to find a new treatment for multiple sclerosis. Mooo... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_429000/429096.stm # PIPE DREAMS. An American arrested in Canada and charged with plotting to blow up the trans-Alaska oil pipeline on New Year's Day was motivated by the most American of reasons: profit. Times sabotage to coincide with the "multiplier effect I'm expecting from the whole millennium effect." Try cashing in: http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/story/21405.html # Japan cans J-1 rocket program. TOKYO (AP) Japan will scrap its J-1 rocket program due to cost overruns and build a new rocket using cheaper foreign- made engines. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560851161-799 # Immune breakthrough aids transplantation. (BBC) Receiving a transplant organ also means a lifetime of dru
[CTRL] NASA PRESSURED TO RESCUE SATELLITE (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:52:53 -0400 (EDT) From: CharlesSmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NASA PRESSURED TO RESCUE SATELLITE NASA PRESSURED TO RESCUE COMMERCIAL SATELLITE Hughes and a satellite insurance group are pressuring NASA to send a Space Shuttle to rescue a lost commercial satellite. The 9,500 pound HS-601 Orion satellite was placed into an incorrect orbit by a malfunction in the Boeing/Douglas Delta III rocket. The proposed rescue would have NASA Shuttle astronauts catch the $150 million wayward satellite by hand, and re-attach a new rocket booster to kick it into a correct orbit for use. NASA and Hughes are locked in negotiations on the price structure for a Shuttle rescue but the proposed mission has also encountered political and technical opposition. A MIT study of previous NASA satellite rescues determined that the agency lost money and that such missions were very risky for both the Shuttle and the astronauts. NASA Shuttle rescues have resulted in repaired satellites being reused, including a Loral Intelsat that was later re-launched back into space by a Chinese Long March booster. MIT, however, concluded that NASA should not engage in such missions unless the satellite was considered to be a valuable national security asset. While it is clear that the commercial Orion does not qualify as a national security asset in space, Hughes officials noted that the satellite was intended to generate over a billion dollars in income. LORAL PAYS CHINESE ARMY FOR SATELLITE TIME LORAL has spent the $265 million insurance pay-off for the failed satellite. The Orion satellite was purchased by Loral to be stationed over Borneo in the Pacific for a new, high speed, internet connection between Asia and the United States. Loral was forced by the launch failure to lease satellite time for $300 million from APT Satellite Company in Hong Kong, a venture backed by the Chinese Army unit COSTIND. APT stock soared on the news of the Loral contract. No word from the Chinese Army. CLINTON SAYS NO TO LORAL The U.S. Dept. of State has again denied LORAL's request to export the CHINASAT 8 satellite. Loral's license to export the Chinasat 8 was revoked last December following allegations that Loral and Hughes had transferred military space technology directly to the Chinese Army. State Dept. spokesman James Rubin said, "The past behavior of the exporting company in general is highly relevant." Industry officials are speculating that the denial is a warning shot from the Clinton White House aimed at Loral. Loral officials are reported to be co-operating with FBI investigators in the CHINA-GATE scandal. One allegation making waves is that Loral officials have pointed the finger at Bill Clinton, stating that he offered waivers for satellite exports to the Chinese Army. The sudden flurry of allegations has led to a chill in the formerly close relationship between Loral and the Clinton administration. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Mike Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Enemies of the State (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Vol. 15, No. 34 -- September 13, 1999 Published Date August 20, 1999, in Washington, D.C. www.insightmag.com Enemies of the State By James P. Lucier In a clash between the authoritarian state and the libertarian vision, the Clinton administration is seeking draconian control of computers and encryption. Virginia's soft-spoken four-term Republican congressman, Rep. Bob Goodlatte, may come out of a no-nonsense town in the Blue Ridge, but he has taken on virtually the entire defense establishment, the intelligence community and even the FBI with his bill HR850, the Security and Freedom through Encryption Act, or SAFE. It is a simple concept, and it has 258 cosponsors in the House. What SAFE would do is guarantee every American the freedom to use any type of cryptography anywhere in the world and allow the sale of any type of encryption domestically. Not such a big deal, is it? How many Americans go around writing secret messages in disappearing ink after they grow up? Actually, it is one of those edge-defying, generation-splitting, turn-the-world-upside-down moments in history. It is a struggle between two different visions of American society. One side sees the private use of encryption as a way to safeguard the records and property of U.S. citizens from the prying eyes of computer hackers, thieves, terrorists and the U.S. government. The other side is the U.S. government, which sees itself as the guarantor of security in the newly discovered land of cyberspace. And to provide that security the government says it has to have the power, at any given moment, to look into anyone's e-mail, bank accounts, financial transactions, information exports and dangerous ideas. Our whole practice of governing is based on geographic concepts -- jurisdiction in delineated districts, authority flowing from citizens voting by precinct, taxes based on property in a given place or on salaries reported to and scrutinized by powerful agencies. But the Internet is everywhere and nowhere. If people slip into cyberspace covered in the stealth garment of encryption to perform transactions, express their ideas, transfer payments and export technology, who's to know what is happening? How will taxes be assessed and collected? How will commerce be measured? How will the professions be regulated if everyone has access to legal or medical information? What will bureaucrats do without people to boss around? How will ideas be controlled? For those who believe that strong government should be the molder and protector of its citizens -- well then, citizens acting behind the cloak of encryption could be a fundamental threat to government. They are enemies of the state. Encryption has been around since the earliest times. Elizabethan poets and spies were versed in "cypher." Samuel Pepys wrote his famous diaries in cypher to hide his accounts of his dalliances. William Byrd of Westover wrote the first major literary work in North America -- his diaries -- in his own code. Thomas Jefferson and his protégé, James Monroe, corresponded in cypher and continually were complaining that the key was mislaid or gone astray. Modern encryption is based on the use of a unique, private numeric "key" which opens a "public key" that even may be published in the marketplace of the Internet. The length of the string of numbers, or "bits," in the private key determines how difficult it is to crack the code. The Clinton administration has decreed that persons in the United States can export encryption products that use up to 56 bits in the key's algorithm; to export a longer and stronger product, the user must agree to put the key "in escrow" where it can be subpoenaed by law-enforcement authorities. But foreign users understandably do not want to place their keys in escrow available to U.S. authorities. And 56-bit encryption is not as secure as the federal government has claimed: In a recent test, a group of private computer experts with desktop computers cracked the 56-bit code in less than 24 hours. More secure 128-bit encryption is widely available around the world, including the United States, but it is illegal to export any product that uses it (see sidebar, below). The SAFE bill would modernize U.S. export controls to permit the export of generally available software and create criminal penalties for the knowing and willful use of encryption to conceal evidence of a crime, but specifies that the use of encryption by itself is not probable cause of a crime. "The reasons why they have insisted on those export controls is to attempt to force the software industry to devise a key-recovery or key-escrow system whereby everybody's computer has a back door that law enforcement can access without their knowledge," Goodlatte tells Insight. American citizens "are not as secure as they could be because encryption has not grown to the strength that it should be to protect the actions of law-abiding citizens." The use
[CTRL] OBRL - Is Your Refrigerator Radioactive?? Recycling Radioactive Waste (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:30:42 -0700 (PDT) From: James DeMeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: *OBRL_News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OBRL - Is Your Refrigerator Radioactive?? Recycling Radioactive Waste From: OBRL-News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:- Is Your Refrigerator Radioactive?? "Recycling" Radioactive Waste Orgone Biophysical Research Lab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://id.mind.net/community/orgonelab/index.htm Forwarded News Item Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups ** Submitted by Ali James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is Your Refrigerator Radioactive?? "Recycling" Radioactive Waste Nuclear waste may be used in household products The Independent, UK, 28/4/97, p6. Brussels has cleared the way for radioactive nuclear waste to be used in recycled consumer goods such as glass, plastics and metals. A European Commission directive will allow very low levels of radioactive substances to be handled without reporting or an authorisation licence. The move was called "lunacy" by environmentalists who said there was no certainty that even the smallest quantities of radioactive material were safe. The new Euratom directive will permit tiny quantities of the bone-seeking isotope Strontium-90, and 300 other radioactive isotopes, including Plutonium 239 and Caesium 137 to be recycled with other waste. Dr Chris Busby, author of 'Wings of Death' which highlights the dangers of low-level radiation from the nuclear industry, said that the new thresholds were "dangerously high" and "could allow huge amounts of radioactive waste to be diluted and disposed of by this route". Seemingly acknowledging the dangers, the directive forbids the addition of radioactive substances in foodstuffs, toys, personal ornaments or cosmetics. But other forms of disposal, including recycling into household goods, are permitted without authorisation if the quantities are below the new given levels. Augustin Janssens, of the EC radiation protection unit, agreed that there was no safe level of radiation but said it was not practical to regulate for very low levels. The directive was adopted by the EU last summer, and member states are due to transpose it into their national law by 2000. In Britain, the use, handling and disposal of even tiny amounts of radioactive substances requires authorisation under the Radioactive Substances Act 1993. Any change would require new legislation passed in Westminster. Britain's National Radiological Protection Board was involved with the EC in drawing up the new radioactive "exemption levels". Dr John Cooper, head of the NRPB's environmental assessments department, said they had agreed on levels for some 300 isotopes at which the risks to people were "trivial". He said it would not be practical to impose regulations on university and hospital laboratories which might handle tiny quantities of radioactive materials. Dr Busby has produced new evidence that children living close to nuclear sites are at risk from leukaemia caused by exposure to low level radiation. The link has been made in a statistical analysis of mortality rates among children under the age of 15 living in the south Midlands. The childhood leukaemia mortality rate in South Oxford, which is close to the Atomic Energy Research Establishment at Harwell, is nearly two and a half times the national average. In Newbury, which is near to the Atomic Weapons Establishment at Aldermaston, the figure is almost double the national rate. The AWE said its research showed the impact of the site on the local environment was "negligible". It said: "We cannot see any link between our operations and the [incidence] of cancer." ++ Blewbury Environmental Research Group Wendy MacLeod-Gilford & Mick Gilford, MA(Cantab), MSc, DIC Lesmarie, Bessels Way, Blewbury, Oxon. OX11 9NN (Tel+Fax: 01235 850711) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 June 1999 The Rt. Hon. Michael Meacher, MP Secretary of State for the Environment Eland House, Bressenden Place London, SW1 5DU Dear Mr Meacher EEC Directive 96/29/Euratom We are very concerned about the possibility that the UK Government intend to implement the EEC Directive 96/29/Euratom using the suggested OEXEMPTION' values contained in the Directive. The present limit for free release of radioactive waste in the UK is 0.4 Bq/g but the proposed exemption limits are up to 2.5 million times this figure for some radioactive substances. Already landfill sites and incinerators receive large quantities of radioactive waste and this has resulted in radioactive leachate leaking from the tips and also the permitted radioactive discharges to air and water from incinerators. Unknown amounts of radioactive waste containing tritium and other radionuclides are dumped into landfill sites or incinerated and local populations have no knowledge of the risk to health when living close by alt
Re: [CTRL] Internet Schizo Alert
-Caveat Lector- Sorry, meaning that tennis pros aren't usually schizophrenics. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Internet Schizo Alert
-Caveat Lector- But what you are saying does not square with: > > DOPAMINE EXCESS is THE biochemical diagnosis of SCHIZOPHRENIA. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cocaine-gate;Seagal to do battle with Bush gang
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "David Crockett Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:38:14 -0700 Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Cocaine-gate;Seagal to do battle with Bush gang From: "David Crockett Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The American Times, August 24, 1999; www.theamericantimes.com Cocaine-Gate News A group of Texas prison inmates are preparing legal action to demand their release since Governor G W Bush has committed the same crimes. Seagal to battle Bush gang Remember the Bush gang involved in the Iran-Contra operation? Don Gregg, William Bar, Oliver North, Felix Rodriques etc, along with Barry Seal and Terry Reed? In an interview with the American Times, officials of Seagal Nosa productions state that they are in the process of aquiring the movie rights to Terry Reed's bombshell book, COMPROMISED Clinton, Bush and the CIA. In recent reports (see the Wilderness below), Reed has implicated Governor Cokehead in the trafficking of cocaine, as does the book. Kick-ass mega star Steven Seagal is set to play Reed. Maybe this movie will open several days prior to election day, with an election surprise of President Seagal taking office in January. Did you forget how the washed-up Minnesota wrestler won? Click for stories: Pressure on BushAFP Republicans chide Bush on cocaine Reuters Bush tough on drugs DMN Can Bush stonewall out of this? Reuters Press beats Bush Time Bush on video, cocaine pick up The Wilderness Crises in the Taiwan Straits: China Threatens to Nuke US Aircraft Carriers China threatens nuclear attackSydney Morning Herald Taiwan to build missile shield AFP Other News Mexican political party to set up voting booths in USAP FBI fired pyrotechnic grenades at Waco compound DMN Energy Dept official quits over Cinton obstruction NYTimes Kosovo Albanians block RussiansAP See also The American Times, August 23, 1999 for story. www.theamericantimes.com Mike Rupert, former narcotics officer, of The Wilderness reports that Terry Reed was at sting in Miami and is on tape. Click for full story at www.theamericantimes.com Movie being made, staring Steven Segal. http://www.theamericantimes.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
