[CTRL] Council on Foreign Relations Reading Materials
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related New Paradigms Posts at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html Subject: Council on Foreign Relations Reading Materials New Internet Only Feature on www.Foreignaffairs.org: Foreignaffairs.org will now feature the full text of articles from the archives that have acquired new relevance in light of todays news. A different topic will be featured each week, often with an update from the author. This weeks feature: From the Foreign Affairs Archives Internet Exclusive! The Conflict in Kashmir http://m1e.net/c?2613772-FvIiKb9dvKixo%4038898-3HUUTUIXNHmmE It is Kashmiris who may decide the future of the entire [Indian] subcontinent, wrote anthropologist Jonah Blank in Foreign Affairs two years ago. He discussed the various dimensions of the conflict over Kashmir, from the risk of nuclear war to Kashmirs place in the larger Islamist struggle in the Arab world. http://m1e.net/c?2613772-pqFP5jY4uwPDA%4038900-IMZOz2GD5BuLQ http://m1e.net/c?2613772-pqFP5jY4uwPDA%4038900-IMZOz2GD5BuLQ ~ Tap into the best thinking from the past and present search the Foreign Affairs archives! http://m1e.net/c?2613772-l0ASTO1Qixb56%4038902-yrWrvsvQelKSk ~ ~ The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict http://m1e.net/c?2613772-ILNRXabi/jzOI%4038904-pMW9M2qEvDJHM Foreign Affairs is making available the full text of a selection of new and previously published articles on the interests, goals, and political dynamics on all sides, as well as the history of the two parties' recent interactions and American involvement in the region. ~ If at anytime you wish to unsubscribe from Foreign Affairs updates or change your email address, click here. http://www.mailermailer.com/x?u=2613772,$1$cPLOd$F.eF5g2IJT0ZG8lXve1bl1 Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jenin deaths video implicates army
-Caveat Lector- http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_2102000/2102081.stm Friday, 5 July, 2002, 23:46 GMT 00:46 UK Jenin deaths video implicates army WATCH/LISTEN ON THIS STORY The BBC's Orla Guerin: Watch the video footage from Jenin http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/38119000/rm/_38119247_israel22_guerin_vi.ram The boys' father showed the tape to the BBC's Orla Guerin http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38119000/jpg/_38119223_video300.jpg The BBC has obtained video footage which appears to show an incident in the West Bank city of Jenin two weeks ago in which two Palestinian children were killed by Israeli tank fire. Ahmad asked me for money because he wanted to buy a chocolate bar. I loved him and his brother so much. Dead boys' father The Israeli army has apologised for causing the deaths of six-year-old Ahmad Abu Aziz and his 13-year-old brother Jamil, but said the tank crew opened fire to deter Palestinians breaking a curfew and approaching them. However, the footage shows a tank firing the first of two shells, at close range, at a group of civilians who are running away. The dead boys' father, Youssef Abu Aziz, told the BBC that they had gone outside to buy chocolate, thinking the Israeli curfew imposed on their city had been lifted. Click here to see images from the video The film of their last moments begins with the two boys and a number of other civilians running towards the camera along an otherwise deserted street in Jenin. Filmed from high building some distance away the footage is shaky, but clearly shows the sequence of events. Father Youssef says he thought the curfew had been lifted http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38119000/jpg/_38119218_father150.jpg A white car speeds along the road, horn blaring, the driver - Dr Samer al-Ahmad - apparently warning the people to run for their lives. Now recovering from his wounds, Dr al-Ahmad told the BBC that, moments earlier, an Israeli officer had said to him that it was allowed for him to be on the streets. But then he said the tank crew opened fire on him with a machine-gun without warning... I was hit but I drove on. Soon afterwards in the film, the Israeli tank appears at the end of the street. It stops for a few seconds before firing in the direction of the retreating Palestinians, the blast engulfing it in a ball of flame and smoke. Questions to answer I thought there was no danger, says Mr Abu Aziz. Ahmad asked me for money because he wanted to buy a chocolate bar. I loved him and his brother so much. Ahmad was buried with the chocolate in his hand. The boys are now considered martyrs by Palestinians http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38119000/jpg/_38119220_poster150.jpg The troops entered Jenin and imposed a curfew as part of a massive security operation Israel said was designed stamp out the militant cells which have launched dozens of suicide attacks in the past two years. Twenty-three suicide bombers have come from Jenin alone, earning it the reputation in Israel as the capital of terrorism. The Israeli army says its still investigating what happened that day. BBC correspondent Orla Guerin, who viewed at first had the Abu Aziz tape, says the army has many questions to answer, including: If the soldiers wanted to clear the street why didn't they fire warning shots? Why were tank shells used in a crowded civilian area? Our correspondent says Israel has a poor record in prosecuting its own soldiers when faced with evidence like that seen in the tape. When the Israeli army was asked to comment on the footage, it refused. http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38119000/jpg/_38119221_sequence300.jpg Top: The two boys and others run on the street; Dr al-Ahmad's car approaches Bottom: Israeli tank appears, and opens fire A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] A Tale of Two Coups
-Caveat Lector- http://www.gregpalast.com/printerfriendly.cfm?artid=169 A Tale of Two Coups by Greg Palast New Internationalist Magazine Monday, July 1, 2002 The big business-led coup in Venezuela failed, where international finance's coup in Argentina has succeeded. Greg Palast gives us the inside track on two very different power-grabs. Blondes in revolt On May Day, starting out from the Hilton Hotel, 200,000 blondes marched East through Caracas' shopping corridor along Casanova Avenue. At the same time, half a million brunettes converged on them from the West. It would all seem like a comic shampoo commercial if 16 people hadn't been shot dead two weeks earlier when the two groups crossed paths. The May Day brunettes support Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. They funnelled down from the ranchos, the pustules of crude red-brick bungalows, stacked one on the other, that erupt on the steep, unstable hillsides surrounding this city of five million. The bricks in some ranchos are new, a recent improvement in these fetid, impromptu slums where many previously sheltered behind cardboard walls. 'Chavez gives them bricks and milk,' a local TV reporter told me, 'and so they vote for him.' Chavez is dark and round as a cola nut. Like his followers, Chavez is an 'Indian'. But the blondes, the 'Spanish', are the owners of Venezuela. A group near me on the blonde march screamed 'Out! Out!' in English, demanding the removal of the President. One edible-oils executive, in high heels, designer glasses and push-up bra had turned out, she said: 'To fight for democracy.' She added: 'We'll try to do it institutionally,' a phrase that meant nothing to me until a banker in pale pink lipstick explained that to remove Chavez, 'we can't wait until the next election'. The anti-Chavistas don't equate democracy with voting. With 80 per cent of Venezuela's population at or below the poverty level, elections are not attractive to the protesting financiers. Chavez had won the election in 1998 with a crushing 58 per cent of the popular vote and that was unlikely to change except at gunpoint. And so on 12 April the business leadership of Venezuela, backed by a few 'Spanish' generals, turned their guns on the Presidential Palace and kidnapped Chavez. Pedro Carmona, the chief of Fedecamaras, the nation's confederation of business and industry, declared himself President. This coup, one might say, was the ultimate in corporate lobbying. Within hours, he set about voiding the 49 Chavez laws that had so annoyed the captains of industry, executives of the foreign oil companies and latifundistas, the big plantation owners. The banker's embrace Carmona had dressed himself in impressive ribbons and braids for the inauguration. In the Miraflores ballroom, filled with the Venezuelan élite, Ignazio Salvatierra, president of the Banker's Association, signed his name to Carmona's self-election with a grand flourish. The two hugged emotionally as the audience applauded. Carmona then decreed the dissolution of his nation's congress and supreme court while the business peopled clapped and chanted, 'Democracia! Democracia!' I later learned the Cardinal of Caracas had led Carmona into the Presidential Palace, a final Genet-esque touch to this delusional drama. This fantasy would evaporate by the crowing of the cock,¹ as Chavez told me in his poetic way. Chavez minister Miguel Bustamante-Madriz, who had escaped the coup, led 60,000 brunettes down from Barrio Petare to Miraflores. As thousands marched against the coup, Caracas television stations, owned by media barons who supported (and possibly planned the coup) played soap operas. The station owned hoped their lack of coverage would keep the Chavista crowd from swelling; but it doubled and doubled and doubled. On l3 April, they were ready to die for Chavez. They did not have to. Carmona, fresh from his fantasy inaugural, received a call from the head of a pro-Chavez paratroop regiment stationed in Maracay, outside the capital. To avoid bloodshed, Chavez had agreed to his own 'arrest' and removal by the putschists, but did not mention to the plotters that several hundred loyal troops had entered secret corridors under the Palace. Carmona, surrounded, could choose his method of death: bullets from the inside, rockets from above, or dismemberment by the encircling 'bricks and milk' crowd. Carmona took off his costume ribbons and surrendered. Taking on the oil giants I interviewed Carmona while I leaned out the fourth floor window of an apartment in La Alombra, a high-rise building complex. I spoke my pidgin Spanish across to his balcony on the building a few yards away. The one-time petrochemical mogul was under house arrest - the lucky bastard. If he had attempted to overthrow the President of Kazakhstan (or for that matter, the President of the US), he would by now have a bullet in his skull. Chavez, in a gracious if strained nod to the ultimate authority of the privileged, simply
[CTRL] (Fwd) LA Airport Shooter is Hashem Mohamed Hadayat - Egyptian Jihad Terrorist
-Caveat Lector- From: David Bier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Spy News, Global Observer The attached article pins it down pretty well that Hashem Mohamed Hadayat, who killed two persons at the Los Angeles Airport on July 4th, was a terrorist for Egyptian Jihad, whose leader, Dr. Zawahiri, is also a senior leader of Al Qaeda.. Hadayat had been working undercover in the U.S. with possibly one previous mission, involving the October, 1999 killing of an Egyptian military team (that had just finished command and control training that would permit more effective anti-terror operations against Egyptian Jihad and other terrorists in Egypt), already successfully accomplished. Thus, the action has to be assumed a terrorist event even though it is odd that it occurred as a singleton event, vice part of an orchestrated series by Egyptian Jihad and Al Qaeda. Such a series of attacks has been expected during this critical U.S. holiday period but so far has not happened even though Al Qaeda moved about 100 fighters into the U.S. in April, May and June. One must marvel at Hadayat's calmness of mind. First, he made sure that his family was safely in Egypt, arriving there ten days before. Then, on Thursday, while in the final stages of initiating an action that most certainly would mean his death, he took time out (according to news reports) to call his father in Egypt to permit his father to extend birthday greetings to him. His conversation with his father was very cordial; revealing nothing of what he intended to do a short time later. A dedicated, committed terrorist putting in another day on the job. Probably one of many undercover operatives put in place in the U.S. by Al Qaeda and its affiliated groups. Some of them foreign nationals like Hadayat and others U.S. citizens who were part of the estimated 1,000 to 2,000 jihadists coming from Wahhabi-financed U.S. mosques who went to Pakistan and then on into Afghanistan for training in the last several years. As I have said many times, the war on terror is going to be a long one fought on many fronts, one of which may be down your street...or mine. David Bier = Counter Terror Sources: Hadayat Belonged to Egyptian Jihad al Qaeda's Operational Arm 5 July: Hashem Mohamed Hadayat, 41, who gunned down Yakov Aminov, 46, and Vicky Hen, 25 - both from Los Angeles - on the 4th of July at the El Al terminal of Los Angeles, and wounded 7 others, is revealed by DEBKAfile's intelligence and counter-terror sources as a Muslim extremist. During his ten years in the United States, he was a secret operative of the Egyptian Jihad who maintained undercover links to the same Jihad cell in Brooklyn, New York, as the blind sheikh Abdul Rahim Rahman and Ramzi Yousef. Both are doing time for perpetrating the first attack on the New York World Trade Center in 1993. Hadayat is also believed to have abetted a previous, contrived airline disaster: On October 31, 1999, an Egyptair Boeing 767 Flight 990, which also took off from Los Angeles airport for Kennedy, New York. After Kennedy, the plane bound for Cairo plunged into the Atlantic off the Nantucket Island, Mass. coast, killing all 217 passengers and crew. In a special probe, the US National Transportation Safety Board found that the copilot Gameel el-Batouty was at the controls when the plane went into its dive. His voice was recorded shouting, I put my faith in Allah! The report held back from referring more directly to the Egyptian copilot's responsibility for the crash. Our sources affirm that Hadayat, who lived in Irvine, California, 70 km south of Los Angeles, knew Batouty well. There are also indications that, in the years 1998 and 1999, Hadayat was in touch with a group of high Egyptian air force officers and helicopter pilots posted at the time at Edwards Base north of Los Angeles. They were there to learn how to install command and control centers in Egypt's air defense systems, operate anti-air missile batteries and fly Apache gunships. Most of those officers were on the doomed Egyptian airliner after completing their courses. Although the long-delayed US Transportation Board report never referred to the presence of this high- ranking Egyptian air force delegation on the flight, DEBKAfile 's Washington sources reported at the time that most of the investigators were satisfied that Batouty could not have seized control of the Boeing 767 without the aid - certainly the compliance - of those officers. Two years ago, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak exerted all his influence on President Clinton to keep the federal board's findings out of its published report and, above all, the fact that a group of Egyptian air force officers was on the plane. He warned that citing the Egyptian copilot as deliberately causing the crash would have a negative effect on Egyptian-US relations. The report therefore fell short of clear conclusions. Hadayat's murderous attack on El Al flight 106 passengers points
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-Caveat Lector- I can't help you with your Saba problem, but I can tell you that Yahoogroups has been ALL screwed up for about 2 weeks. The messages are making it to the group web page, but email delivery is taking up to a week. Not just this list either. Activity on a couple of other lists I'm on has ground to a halt because of this. Tenorlove --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I know it must be a weird masochism I don¹t understand But sometimes I miss saba. Is anyone else having problems on the other list? -- All the thoughts of a turtle are turtle Emerson, Journals, 1855 NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Al-Hayat: LAX gunman may have met with bin Laden deputy
-Caveat Lector- Al-Hayat: LAX gunman may have met with bin Laden deputy By Zohar Blumenkrantz and Benny Landau, Ha'aretz Correspondents, Ha'aretz Service and agencies July 7, 2002 Authorities are investigating whether Hesham Mohammed Hadayet, the Egyptian who gunned down two people at Los Angeles International Airport last Thursday, met in the United States with Osama bin Laden's deputy, an Arabic paper reported at the weekend. The London-based Al-Hayat said that authorities were checking whether Hadayet had met with Ayman Al-Zawahiri in 1995 and again in 1998, while the latter was head of the Al-Jihad organization in Egypt. Al-Zawahiri, who visited California in 1998, went on to become bin Laden's right-hand man. His current whereabouts are unknown. Hadayet, 41, was shot dead by an El Al security official soon after opening fire on the crowd of people queuing at the ticket counter of Israel's national carrier. The U.S. government had started deportation proceedings in 1996 against Hadayet but he gained U.S. residency the following year when his wife received a valid visa, officials said Saturday. It wasn't clear what caused the Immigration and Naturalization Service to reject Hadayet's first petition for residency and begin the deportation process, INS spokesman Francisco Arcaute said. A year later, in 1997, Hadayet was granted permanent resident status because his wife, Hala, had become a permanent resident, Arcaute said. The INS allows foreign nationals to work and live in the United States if they have a relative who is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident. Hadayet's uncle, Hassan Mostaffa Mahfouz, told The Associated Press in Egypt that Hadayet was happy in the United States and had only about a year remaining before he qualified for U.S. citizenship. I don't believe what happened, Mahfouz said. The two people killed in the attack at El Al's ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport were identified as Ya'akov Aminov, 47, and El Al stewardess Vicky Chen, both of them residents of Los Angeles, Israel Radio reported Friday morning. Egypt FM surprised at furor over El Al shooting Egypt's foreign minister expressed surprise Saturday at the furor over a deadly attack by an Egyptian national at Los Angeles airport, saying the motives were still unclear and similar incidents occurred frequently. Egypt's official Middle East News Agency (MENA) said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher told reporters in Cairo that such incidents occur repeatedly in the United States and other countries and said he was surprised by the exaggeration of this event in particular. Until now, nobody knows the motives behind this incident. We have to await the outcome of the current investigations so that we can review them, MENA quoted Maher as saying. Egypt's semi-official al-Ahram daily said Saturday that local security authorities had no information on record about Hadayet and there was no evidence he had any links to extremist activities when he lived in Egypt. Ex-employee tells NY Times: Hadayet 'had hate for Israel' In an interview to The New York Times published Saturday, a former employee of Hadayet that he often heard his boss express virulent anti-Israeli sentiments. Hadayet had hate for Israel, for sure, Syrian-born Abdul Zahab told The New York Times. He told me that the Israelis tried to destroy the Egyptian nation and the Egyptian population by sending prostitutes with AIDS to Egypt. He said that the two biggest drug dealers in New York are Israeli. The FBI said Friday it had no indication suggesting that the attack was an act of terrorism, but said the gunman's motive was still unclear. He was not on any FBI or FAA watch list, FBI agent Richard Garcia told a news conference. He added that authorities still had several days work to do to determine whether this person acted in an act of terrorism. We have not determined whether he had any anti-Israeli views, Garcia said, adding that it was still very difficult to determine the exact motive for the shooting. The FBI said earlier that Hadayet apparently was not connected to any terror organizations, and probably acted on his own. * Find this article at: http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=184061contrassID=1subContrassID=0sbSubContrassID=0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
[CTRL] Jerusalem Post Editorial: No 'isolated incident'
-Caveat Lector- No 'isolated incident' Editorial The Jerusalem Post July 7, 2002 CNN's coverage of Thursday night's attack on the El Al counter at Los Angeles Airport must have puzzled local viewers. The obvious first assumption, given the timing and location of the incident, would surely be that it was a terror strike as was indeed stated immediately by Israeli officials. Yet CNN's broadcaster seemed at pains to stress that no such evidence was yet available (as if it could be) to draw such a conclusion. Instead, several other theories were floated. Perhaps it was a work dispute, since early eyewitness accounts supposedly had the attacker shouting out They cost me my job! Others apparently described it as an altercation that got out of hand, and CNN's newscaster even helpfully reminded viewers that California is a place where a lot of people walk about carrying around guns. This wasn't just a media line. US law enforcement officials also seemed to reluctant to label the incident a terrorist attack, instead saying that at first glance it appeared to be an isolated incident. One American security expert appeared on the air confidently declaring that it was unlikely to be the forewarned al-Qaida strike on July 4, because that group prefers committing large-scale terror attacks as if al-Qaida operated only according to some kind of strictly followed playbook. Even after the assailant was identified as Hesham Muhammad Ali Hadayet, an Egyptian national who has spent the past 12 years in the US, local law enforcement officials continued to resist drawing the obvious conclusion. Because Hadayet had no prior known links with terrorist groups, Richard Garcia, the FBI agent in charge of the investigation, told The New York Times it just as well could have been a hate crime, or perhaps Hadayet might simply have been despondent for some as yet unknown reason, perhaps a financial problem or a family dispute, and that despair drove him to violence. It may well be that Hadayet had personal problems. It is also clear that he was capable of hate. He had hate for Israel, for sure, the Times quoted one former employee in Hadayet's limousine service, who added He [Hadayet] told me that the Israelis tried to destroy the Egyptian nation and the Egyptian population by sending prostitutes with AIDS to Egypt. The Israel/AIDS conspiracy is a fantastic anti-Semitic canard widely circulated in Arab circles during the past decade. Perhaps Hadayet read about it in Egyptian newspapers sent from home, or saw it on anti-Israeli Internet sites, or heard it discussed in the local mosques near his home in the Los Angeles suburb of Irvine, described by an Israeli official in one report as a problematic center of anti-Israel rhetoric recently. The notion that an individual like Hadayet necessarily needed a direct personal order from the likes of Osama bin Laden to carry out his nefarious deed for it to be characterized as a terror attack rather than isolated incident, hate crime, or despondent act is a dangerously misguided one. It is misguided about the nature of terrorism in general, and about the nature of the enemy America is facing in specific. Haven't bin Laden and other Islamic terrorist leaders publicly called on individual Muslims like Hadayet to commit such acts? And when they do, isn't that terrorism, pure and simple? Why the reluctance on the part of some in the US to acknowledge that this was clearly a terrorist attack on American soil? Because to do so would grant a victory to al-Qaida? Or because it would mean admitting that letting such a heavily armed man inside an airport terminal on a day when the nation was at the highest state of alert was a clear lapse of security? (Had Hadayet attacked any counter other then El Al, one wonders if he would have been stopped so quickly and prevented from killing many others). Or is this a sign that even after 9/11, many Americans are still grappling with the mind shift needed to wage an extended war on terrorism both at home and abroad? Even the early characterizations of the victims as Israelis Victoria Hen and Ya'acov Aminov were Israeli-Americans seemed intended to somehow shift the definition of the crime away from an act of terrorism against the US, to some kind of transplanted offshoot of the Israeli-Arab conflict. No wonder that Hen's family felt compelled to issue a statement flatly declaring: We the family believe that this was a murder, an act carried out by a terrorist against Israelis and American Israelis on American soil. We wish that the American government will once and for all take a clear and present stand on the issue of terror and will act on it. The intention here is not to criticize the US war on terrorism from an Israeli perspective. Israel has its own problems, both in psychological and practical terms, in dealing with terrorism. The US,
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/7/02 12:16:21 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But sometimes I miss saba. She ought to be reinstated...she has alot to offer and she does so in a very entertaining style. She is an invaluable resource and we were lucky to have her on this list. June ought to be reinstated too to provide balance. If we can keep the catfighting to a minimum (though I kinda' enjoy it) I think it's time for parole. Bill. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Way OT
-Caveat Lector- June IS on the list. I get posts from her every so often. Tenorlove --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: June ought to be reinstated too to provide balance. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Way OT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/7/02 8:50:46 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: June IS on the list. I get posts from her every so often. Saba is also on the list (I believe) but she and June are on a very limited posting privilege track. It's time to reinstate them both IMHO. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Psycho Ashford's Obsessive Vendetta: Lynch Johnny Lindh
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- x ** TOP_VIEW ** x The Bigger Picture 7.7.02 Psycho Ashford's Obsessive Vendetta: Lynch Johnny Lindh Ashcroft -- a deranged, psychotic, DEEPLY sociopathic criminal, should be put on trial IMMEDIATELY for proven massive attacks against bedrock principles set forth in the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence. = = = = = = = = http://www.counterpunch.org/baughman0705.html July 5, 2002 Ashcroft's Vendetta: Lynching John Walker Lindh by Steve Baughman The frenzied cry to string John Walker Lindh up by his thumbs is a fine example of America's determination never to let facts get in the way of a good temper tantrum. Attorney General John Ashcroft accuses Lindh of dedicating himself to killing Americans, and a 10-count felony indictment includes allegations that Lindh committed conspiracy to murder United States nationals. The Attorney General even went so far as to accuse Lindh of complicity in the atrocities of September 11. At his January 15, 2002 press conference Aschroft stated that the filing of criminal charges against Lindh was compelled by the inescapable fact of September the 11th. We cannot, Ashcroft said, overlook attacks on America when they come from United States citizens. The mainstream media coverage of this case has been characteristically shoddy, shallow and sensational. Much attention has been given to Lindh's Marin County upbringing and to the pathetic attempts by his parents to make him look like a good boy. Less frivolous commentary has tended to focus on such things as the conditions of Lindh's battlefield confinement, whether he was properly Mirandized and whether his statements will be admissible at trial. Almost completely absent has been a discussion of what exactly Lindh did and whether it justifies the government's attempt to put him away for life plus 90 years. A close look at the facts will embarrass both the government and the mainstream press. It will also shame the alternative media, which has been unforgivably silent about what seems to be a blatantly political prosecution of a United States citizen. A detailed account of Lindh's conduct can be found in the overt acts section of the indictment, a 21-paragraph recitation of his journey from Pakistan to Afghanistan to prison. Its most striking feature is the absence of evidence that Lindh engaged in, attempted to engage in, assisted or attempted to assist others in engaging in acts of terror against the United States. Indeed, it makes abundantly clear that Lindh was simply on a mission to prevent the Northern Alliance from retaking Afghanistan. The indictment alleges that Lindh entered Afghanistan in May or June of 2001 for the purpose of taking up arms with the Taliban. He then presented a letter to Mujahideen headquarters in Kabul and indicated that he wanted to go to the front lines to fight. He later underwent military training at an al-Qaeda training camp. In June or July of 2001 he left Kabul for the front. After the United States entered the conflict in October of 2001, Lindh remained with his unit until they were captured in November. It is nowhere alleged that Lindh ever fired a shot at anyone. He and several other trainees also met with Osama bin Laden in the summer of 2001 for several minutes. During this meeting bin Laden thanked him and other trainees for taking part in jihad. That's it. That's the government's case. That's the basis of the hysterical cries to throw away all keys. Where, one wonders, is the evidence of intent to murder United States nationals or to assist in attacks on America? And if these rather tame facts are not sufficiently humbling for the lynch mob, there
[CTRL] Pedophilia's Double Standard
-Caveat Lector- http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/hitchens_22_3.html Pedophilia's Double Standard by Christopher Hitchens The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 21, Number 1. You often hear it said that religion, or religious belief, has the effect of making people behave better even if the metaphysical claims of faith are ill-founded or untrue. Bertrand Russell mounted a spirited attack on this opinion, on what were mainly empirical grounds, in his essay Why I Am Not a Christian. Actually, I rather like to see arguments in defense of faith mounted in a utilitarian manner in their turn, because this represents a huge if unadmitted concession to secular morality. However, the falsity or inconsistency even of such a weakened position needs to be exposed every now and again andâwhile Russell dealt chiefly with the pastâthere is no time like the present. During the notorious "Moors Murders" case in Britain in the late 1960s, when a series of children were tortured to death and then buried in a remote and hilly territory, the conservative novelist John Braine wrote a furious response to liberal relativism and its then-fashionable saying that in such cases "We are all guilty." He could not, he said, consent to any such proposition. Nor could he blame anything so amorphous as "society." Rather than do what the accused had done, he would prefer to have died. I dare say that any reader of this magazine would affirm the same, whether they were parents, grandparents, or not. The prohibition against cruelty or violence to infants is quite ancient and very common to all cultures, so that we remember the exceptionsâSparta, for exampleâvery well. It's probably encoded in us in some way; it hardly needs the very memorable condemnation that it receives from Jesus of Nazareth, who is supposed to have said that, rather than perpetrate such a hideous offense, it would be better for the guilty to have a millstone put around their necks and to try and hide their shame in the depths of the sea. Given that, the existence of a vast pedophile ring in the United States in the twenty-first century is something more than an affront to "family values." And the fact that this ring is operated by named and senior churchmen, who continue to hold high office and to officiate at Sunday ceremonies, is something more than an outrage. Alleged "cultists" in Waco, Texas, who were only suspected of maltreating children inside their compound, were immolated by a bombardment of federal fire. The admitted and confessed enablers and protectors of rapists and child abusers are invited, at the most, only to resign their high offices. And even this suggestion is something that they feel strong enough to repudiate-and with indignation at that. No doubt there are some secular institutions, such as prisons, where the incidence of sexual torture and rape is, so to speak, part of the system. But even these places take some care to protect the underage from predators. What continually strikes the reader of each successive case involving the churches is that the ghastly recurrence is truly systematic, if not indeed routine. I do not wish to seem sectarian, but I will risk the accusation. The Protestant churches and some prominent synagogues in Florida and New York appear to have been bad enough, in resorting at once to denial and to cover-up. The Roman Catholic Church, however, has been behaving as if, without the opportunity for sex with the underage, its whole ministry would collapse. If I knowingly sheltered a torturer and abuser of children, or lied about my knowledge of him, or (aware of his record) pressed him upon my neighbors as a child-minder or babysitter, and if I stood to profit by these actions or inactions, I would expect more from the forces of law and order than a dirty look. So intense is our obsession with this crime, indeed, that many innocent teachers and even Web-site surfers have had their careers and lives ruined by even the suggestion of it. But here are the men of god, calmly engaged in the racket and evidently irritated by the resulting fuss. It is quite obvious that, with recidivism at this level, one must look to the actual practices of the Catholic Church. The celibacy requirement, which is peculiar to Catholic Christians, is obviously a part of it. So is the renowned insistence of the Catholic Church on gaining authority over children, for doctrinal reasons, at the earliest possible age. The authority that is exerted, often by newly ordained and unstable young men, is a teaching entirely drenched in the obsession with all kinds of sex, and in the requirement to repress or prohibit a huge list of sexual behaviors. Moving along the continuum of priestly and episcopal hierarchy, one finds elderly but somehow useless men who may never have abused a child themselves, but cannot quite see why there is any outcry. I wager that they would not act like this if they had had the chance to be
[CTRL] Pole-Shift?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,748510,00.html Fatal attraction Earth's magnetic field is showing strong signs that the poles are due to switch over. It could be the end of the world as we know it, writes Paul Simons Thursday July 4, 2002 The Earth could be about to turn upside down. The planet's magnetic field is showing signs of wanting to make a gigantic somersault, so that magnetic north heads towards Antarctica, and magnetic south goes north. Compasses will point the wrong way, and migrating birds, fish and turtles are going to be very confused. Just when this will happen, how long it will take and what the consequences will be, is difficult to fathom. What is not in doubt, though, is that it will happen. About every half a million years or so, the Earth's magnetic field flips upside down. The story begins in 1600, when Sir William Gilbert, physician to Queen Elizabeth I, suggested that the Earth was a giant magnet. At the magnetic poles, a compass needle would stand up and point straight down into the Earth. And he was right, up to a point. The magnetic poles are where all the lines of force of Earth's magnetic field are drawn together. It does not coincide with the geographic poles, the axis on which the Earth spins, but it is close. Yet the Earth is not a solid magnet. For one thing, its magnetic poles are constantly drifting around. At present, magnetic north is heading out of Canadian territory into the Arctic Ocean at about 10 miles per year. Also, a bar magnet quickly loses its power, yet the Earth's magnetic field has been around for billions of years, so something is regenerating it. This is why Einstein remarked that the origin of the Earth's magnetic field was one of the greatest mysteries of physics. Today, we think that magnetic power comes from the Earth's hot outer shell of molten iron sloshing around a solid inner core. As this subterranean ocean of liquid metal slowly whirls around, it behaves like a dynamo generating electrical currents and magnetic fields. Just like the flickering light on a bicycle powered by a dynamo, the Earth's currents are a little erratic, and so the magnetic field at the surface of the Earth fluctuates. We know the magnetic polarity goes topsy-turvy from rocks on the bed of the Atlantic Ocean. Along the middle of the Atlantic runs a gigantic crack from which lava oozes. As the lava solidifies into rock, it records the Earth's magnetic polarity at the time. These records show that we are due for another flip about now. But the Earth does not keep a regular rhythm, so no one could make a prediction based on past performance alone. There is, however, more convincing proof that we are heading for a tumble. Each time the magnetic field heads for a reversal, it grows weaker over several thousand years until it almost disappears. Then it switches and starts up again with renewed vigour. Magnetism trapped in ancient pottery shows that over the past 4,000 years, the magnetic field has weakened by more than 50%. This past century, the strength has dropped by 5%. At this rate, the field might disappear in the next few hundred or thousand years. Another warning sign of an imminent flip has come recently from satellite measurements of the Earth's magnetic field. A team led by Gauthier Hulot, of the Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, has spotted patches of reversed magnetism concentrated in two places just underneath the Earth's outer mantle. In the largest patch, beneath the southern tip of Africa, the magnetic field is pointing towards the centre of the Earth, instead of outwards. The other patch is near the north pole. Some experts have stuck their necks out to predict that we can expect the next reversal some time in the next 2,000 years. The process would probably then take anything between 100 and a few thousand years - not even a blink in the history of Earth. We can only guess what life would be like during that reversal. Anyone trying to navigate with a magnetic compass is going to have a tough time, but what is going to happen to all those birds, fish and other animals that migrate vast distances using their own internal magnetic compass? Will they have time to re-draw their magnetic maps and get new bearings? Even more creatures such as bees and some bacteria use a sense of magnetism for finding their way around their local territories, for a north/south or up/down axis. The Earth's magnetic field also stretches several hundred miles into space and protects us from the sun's charged particles and cosmic rays by focusing them towards the poles. This is where they appear as the northern and southern lights as they excite gases in the atmosphere. As the magnetic poles migrate across the world, those night lights are going to light up some very strange places where they have never been seen before. During a field reversal, this protective magnetic shield is going to be weak and might even disappear for
[CTRL] Fwd: Why he WON'T serve in Sharon's brutal army of oppression
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- x ** TOP_VIEW ** x The Bigger Picture 7.7.02 Why he WON'T serve in Sharon's brutal army of oppression ** From The Guardian UK: Why I won't serve Sharon -- 'By branding any criticism of the suffering he inflicts on the Palestinians as anti-semitic, Sharon is enlisting something sacred for the vile colonial and expansionist ends he pursues. People in Britain, Jews and non-Jews alike, should not lend a hand to such a despicable attempt to desecrate the memory of Jewish suffering, and to use it to justify the oppression of another people.' -- Shlomi Segall, IDF reserve staff sgt. = = = = = = = = [Reserve staff sergeant Shlomi Segall is one of 467 IDF soldiers and officers who have signed a letter stating that they refuse to serve in the illegally occupied territories any more. Segall argues that Sharon is provoking Palestinian suicide attacks and then cynically using them to oppress the Palestinian people and destroy Palestinian culture. It is with an almost palpable sense of relief that Segall announces he will no longer collaborate with this shameful project. It is neither anti-Semitic nor anti-Israeli to speak up against the occupation, Segall argues: it is both proper and necessary. - JN] Why I won't serve Sharon Shlomi Segall Friday July 5, 2002 The Guardian It is remarkable how easily one learns to live with occupation. When I was born, the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories was already three years old. When I became 18 the occupation was still in full force, only by then the Palestinians had had enough of it. That was the first intifada. I was there, along with many others, ready to serve as the iron fist to crush the Palestinian resistance. Elsewhere people our age contemplated going to university or travelling around the world, but I and many young Israelis found ourselves in the narrow alleys of Jebaliya and other refugee camps. We should have known better, but almost without exception we didn't. Nearly eight years later I was still serving in the occupied territories, this time as a reserve soldier. I was manning a roadblock, stopping Palestinians from entering Israel en route to their low paid jobs in the Israeli slave market. I remember talking to a friend, trying to justify why I'd collaborated with a policy that denied a Palestinian father the only means of bringing food to his children. No more. No more excuses. We members of Courage to Refuse, reserve soldiers who have vowed not to serve in the occupied territories, will not set foot beyond the 1967 line unless it is in civilian clothes and as invited guests. Ariel Sharon will tell you that Israel is fighting a war for its survival against a bloodthirsty enemy. Not so. Sharon and his cronies are fighting a colonial war to keep their pet settlement project in place, to perpetuate the Israeli occupation and the subjugation of the Palestinian territories. It is a one-sided war with a not-so-covert purpose of destroying any hope of a Palestinian homeland and independent national life. Any suicide attack within Israel, deplorable as it is, is used by Sharon as a pretext for inflicting ever-increasing misery on the 3.5 million inhabitants of Palestine. And if suicide attacks are not forthcoming, you can count on Sharon to provoke them with his so-called targeted killings, which usually leave alleged terrorists unharmed but often leave women and children dead. In this so-called war, any pretext is used to inflict a second Nakba (the catastrophe of 1948) on the Palestinians. Just look at the wanton destruction of the Palestinian ministry of culture, the bureau of statistics, the ministry of
[CTRL] 2 Birds, 1 Stone For Bush Jr.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/metropolitan/1484920 July 5, 2002, 11:59PM Hispanics praise new citizenship policy for military Offer of immediate eligibility hailed as a 'show of good will' By EDWARD HEGSTROM Houston Chronicle Hispanics, who have a long history in the U.S. military and could be a crucial part of its future, welcomed President Bush's decision to make it easier for immigrant soldiers to become citizens. In a July Fourth speech to troops in West Virginia, Bush announced that he had signed an executive order making it immediately possible for 15,000 soldiers to become citizens. All of those who qualify are already legal permanent residents. "I think it's a good idea," said Leonel Castillo, former director of the Immigration and Naturalization Service who now serves as adviser to Houston Mayor Lee Brown. "These are people who have demonstrated their loyalty." Nelson Reyes, head of the Central American Refugee Center, an immigrant group that helps immigrants living in southwest Houston, called Bush's move a "show of good will," but he called on the president to go further by helping those immigrants who can't get into the military. By the time they qualify to enlist in the Army, immigrants have already overcome their most difficult legal hurdles. Foreigners are allowed in the armed forces if they have obtained a Green Card granting legal permanent residency. It's the Green Card, rather than citizenship, that generally is the most difficult to obtain. Hispanics take pride in their history of serving in the military. "We have adopted this as our land, and we are ready to defend it," Reyes said. A total of 40 Hispanics have won the Medal of Honor. While most of the Hispanic war heroes were U.S. citizens, a few were not. Alfred Rascon, an Army medic in the Vietnam war, was still a Mexican citizen when he saved fellow soldiers in an act of bravery that later won him the Medal of Honor. A total of 31,000 foreign citizens currently serve in the U.S. military. Despite their history in the military, Hispanics represent less than 10 percent of the soldiers in the U.S. Army today. "We know that Hispanics are underrepresented in the Army relative to their share of the U.S. population," Lt. Gen. John M. Le Moyne said in testimony before Congress earlier this year. He said the Army has begun reaching out to immigrants through initiatives such as a new pilot program that allows Spanish-speaking recruits to attend intensive English courses before joining other soldiers in basic training. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Newsletter #8
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Greetings from the Center for an Informed America (http://davesweb.cnchost.com/). Please forward this newsletter widely. If this was forwarded to you and you would like to receive future mailings, e-mail (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) a request to be added to this mailing list. NEWSLETTER #8 July 7, 2002 Greetings to all subscribers! Once upon a time, America had a president who liked to portray himself as being just a good ol' boy. Sometimes he'd pop up in photos wearing jeans and boots as he ambled about his ranch -- when he wasn't purportedly steering the American ship-of-state. The press had some reservations about him though. Sometimes he just didn't seem to be, shall we say, fully in control of his mental faculties. He would say things that didn't make much sense. He didn't always know exactly which country he was visiting, or what foreign head-of-state he was talking to. He had a hard time coming up with coherent answers when he wasn't working from a script. In September of the first year of his administration, a presidential aide was quoted in a respected national news magazine as saying of his boss: There are some uncomfortable moments, especially with guys like [the Prime Minister of Canada], who have complete mastery of the dossiers and can talk about these things off the top of their heads. The President's not there yet, and my guess is that he won't ever be. Some time later, one of the country's most influential daily newspapers ran an op/ed piece that read, in part: This president is treated by both the press and foreign leaders as if he were a child. He earns respect for the ordinary, for what used to be expected. His occasional ability to retain facts is cited as a triumph when it should, in fact, be a routine occurrence. Who was this mystery president? No ... we're not talking about George Dumbya Bush here. The guy we're talking about did actually have verbal communication skills -- he just rarely was lucid enough to know what he was talking about. We're talking here, of course, about Ronald Reagan -- who, even suffering from the early effects of Alzheimer's, could speak more intelligibly than Bush. The news magazine, by the way, was Newsweek (September 7, 1981) and the newspaper was the Washington Post (June 2, 1983). Twenty years later, we now have another White House occupant who earns respect for the ordinary. In fact, he earns praise for what doesn't even rise to the level of the ordinary. And the press hasn't even taken the token swipes at him that they took twenty years ago at Reagan. (the U.S. press, that is: http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,4599307,00.html) What we are witnessing here is a serious dumbing-down of the presidency. What we are also seeing is a replay of the 1980s -- a not-so-lucid and therefore easily manipulated pawn serving as a front-man for the guys lurking in the shadows of both administrations -- George H.W. Bush and his most trusted cronies, like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. But at least in the good old days of the '80s, we were given a charismatic 'leader' who seemed genuine and who had no shortage of stories to entertain America with (and who was actually elected to his position). The fact that we now have George Bush in the White House illustrates that Washington's power brokers have grown so arrogant that they no longer care how credible their front-man is, or how well he is able to sell their agenda. So expendable and insignificant is George considered to be that one of the biggest stories of this past week was that he had passed the baton to Dick
[CTRL] Uri Avnery: Israel - A Maddened Cow
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general26/cow.htm Israel - A Maddened Cow By Uri Avnery Former member of Israeli Parliament 7-6-2 Israel is the only state in the world that has a population of 200%. And that's a fact. Public opinion polls show that it has two simultaneous majorities. One is peace- loving, the other supports extreme nationalism. At the present time, it looks like this: In every public opinion poll there is a large majority that supports the Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon. Sharon wants, of course, to enlarge the settlements, intensify the war against the Palestinians, eliminate Yasser Arafat, postpone a permanent solution and refuse any peace negotiations until unattainable conditions are met. Anyone who supports him must be a radical right- winger. But the very same public opinion polls show also that a majority agrees to withdraw from (almost) all the occupied territories, dismantle (almost) all settlements and accept the establishment of a Palestinian state in return for peace. How is this possible? Can a state have a population of more than 100%? If so, Israel is a very special country. This curious situation did not come about yesterday. It started long ago. I remember public opinion polls of more than 20 years ago, which also revealed two majorities. The first majority supported the idea of expelling all Arabs from the country west of the Jordan river. The second one supported a withdrawal from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Together with those who were against both proposals, this totaled 200%. Statisticians and sociologists examined, researched, shook their collective heads, shrugged their shoulders, raised both hands and thought: a crazy people. Doesn't know what it wants. Mixed up. Schizophrenic. Suffering from a split personality. But the people were not mad at all. The professors just did not know how to read the results of their polls. What the public tried to say was: If it were possible to drive out all the Arabs, that would be wonderful. If it's impossible, let's get the hell out of there. Why? For a simple reason: the one thing that unifies almost all Jewish Israelis is the wish to live in a state where there are only Jews. If we could achieve such a state in all the country between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river, O.K. If not, let's leave the occupied territories. Not "land for peace", but "withdrawal for the sake of safeguarding a homogeneous Jewish state". This is the majority opinion, and there is, indeed, only one majority. Some call this "racist". Some call it "nationalist". Some say that this is "apartheid". But this attitude is rooted in the fact that for thousands of years Jews have lived as a religious-ethnic community dispersed throughout the world and often suffered cruel persecution (especially in the Christian world). They have developed a ghetto mentality. They want to live among themselves, separate from others, surrounded by a high fence. Zionism wanted to achieve this by establishing a state where the Jews would live together, without Goyim (Gentiles). Even the presence of a considerable minority (the Arab citizens) in Israel creates severe mental stress. For most Israelis, the ideal situation would be a state without a single non-Jewish citizen. (The presence of foreign workers does not bother anybody; it is temporary, and they are devoid of any rights.) Lately this aspiration has found new expression in an idea which is becoming quite popular: to transfer the Israeli Arab villages adjoining the West Bank, together with their inhabitants, to the future Palestinian state, which means giving up territory so that Israel will have less non-Jewish citizens. This is quite unusual. The French, for example, have shed rivers of blood in order to keep Alsace, whose people are of German descent. India is ready to wage a nuclear war in order to keep Kashmir, which is populated by Muslims. For other nations, territory is more important than a homogeneous population, geography precedes demography. Israelis, too, like territory - but demography is by far more important to them. One example: after the 1956 war, during which Israel conquered the Sinai and the Gaza Strip, David Ben-Gurion was compelled to give up the Sinai. At the time there was a clamor from the right and the left to annex the Gaza Strip. Ben-Gurion adamantly refused, because he did not want to increase the number of Arab citizens by hundreds of thousands at any price. (The brilliant idea of an eternal military occupation, which allows the occupier to abstain from conferring citizenship on the occupied population, was not yet invented.) Today, too, there is only one majority in Israel. Most Israelis are ready to pay the price demanded for peace. So why do they support Sharon, who represents the opposite? For one simple reason: they have been brought to believe that "we have no partner". There is a complete unanimity, from Avigdor Liberman and Effy Eitam on
Re: [CTRL] Way OT
-Caveat Lector- From: William Shannon But sometimes I miss saba.She ought to be reinstated...she has alot to offer Puh-leeze! :-( The only thing 'she' ever had to offer is unsubtantiated inanities... I'm still waiting for proof of 'her' so-called "Bible Code" via a prediction BEFORE the fact... and she does so in a very entertaining style. Whatever 'entertainment' 'she' provides is extremely thin and short-lived... She is an invaluable resource PUH-LEEZE! "Resource" of what? Study material for a case of rampant insanity? and we were lucky to have her on this list. We were never lucky to have 'her' on the list. We are lucky 'she' is gone... June ought to be reinstated too to provide balance. I can't speak for the list-status of Colleen/Saba, but I was never banned, so I don't need to be reinstated. I've just been really busy of late, and haven't felt the need to respond to recent postings to the list... June __Created and best viewed with IncrediMail!Get your free copy at: www.incredimail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [NewPacifica] The conspiracy theorists at FAIR
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Those conspiracy theorists at FAIR expose something they call a lie launching the Vietnam War. What's the criteria/guidelines with regards to exposing these things? Do we have to allow a 30 year window to go by and wait for millions to die in a war before we start looking into things? 30-Year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War http://www.fair.org/media-beat/940727.html Media Beat, July 27, 1994 30-Year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War By Jeff Cohen and Norman Solomon Thirty years ago, it all seemed very clear. American Planes Hit North Vietnam After Second Attack on Our Destroyers; Move Taken to Halt New Aggression, announced a Washington Post headline on Aug. 5, 1964. That same day, the front page of the New York Times reported: President Johnson has ordered retaliatory action against gunboats and 'certain supporting facilities in North Vietnam' after renewed attacks against American destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin. But there was no second attack by North Vietnam -- no renewed attacks against American destroyers. By reporting official claims as absolute truths, American journalism opened the floodgates for the bloody Vietnam War. A pattern took hold: continuous government lies passed on by pliant mass media...leading to over 50,000 American deaths and millions of Vietnamese casualties. The official story was that North Vietnamese torpedo boats launched an unprovoked attack against a U.S. destroyer on routine patrol in the Tonkin Gulf on Aug. 2 -- and that North Vietnamese PT boats followed up with a deliberate attack on a pair of U.S. ships two days later. The truth was very different. Rather than being on a routine patrol Aug. 2, the U.S. destroyer Maddox was actually engaged in aggressive intelligence-gathering maneuvers -- in sync with coordinated attacks on North Vietnam by the South Vietnamese navy and the Laotian air force. The day before, two attacks on North Vietnam...had taken place, writes scholar Daniel C. Hallin. Those assaults were part of a campaign of increasing military pressure on the North that the United States had been pursuing since early 1964. On the night of Aug. 4, the Pentagon proclaimed that a second attack by North Vietnamese PT boats had occurred earlier that day in the Tonkin Gulf -- a report cited by President Johnson as he went on national TV that evening to announce a momentous escalation in the war: air strikes against North Vietnam. But Johnson ordered U.S. bombers to retaliate for a North Vietnamese torpedo attack that never happened. Prior to the U.S. air strikes, top officials in Washington had reason to doubt that any Aug. 4 attack by North Vietnam had occurred. Cables from the U.S. task force commander in the Tonkin Gulf, Captain John J. Herrick, referred to freak weather effects, almost total darkness and an overeager sonarman who was hearing ship's own propeller beat. One of the Navy pilots flying overhead that night was squadron commander James Stockdale, who gained fame later as a POW and then Ross Perot's vice presidential candidate. I had the best seat in the house to watch that event, recalled Stockdale a few years ago, and our destroyers were just shooting at phantom targets -- there were no PT boats there There was nothing there but black water and American fire power. In 1965, Lyndon Johnson commented: For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there. But Johnson's deceitful speech of Aug. 4, 1964, won accolades from editorial writers. The president, proclaimed the New York Times, went to the American people last night with the somber facts. The Los Angeles Times urged Americans
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: MY THOUGHTS ON VREELAND
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- The Anglo-Germanic faction? Weren't England and Germany at war with one one another a few decades ago? You didn't mention the China and Japan factions. - Original Message - From: nexusmagazine To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 2:21 AM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: MY THOUGHTS ON VREELAND Duncan, looks like you've come up with an imminently reasonable application of Occam's razor.From my vantage point, there are many sheer ANOMALIES enrapt with 911 and the subsequent anthrax mailings -- so many, indeed, that I hesitate to 'slam the door' on anything as being too outre.I totally agree.!To take just one instance of a tiny anomaly, in my eyes, is ... hypothetically speaking, if people who believe that this ultimately all leads back to Saudi Arabia are correct --- well, then WHY did the U.S. government have to immediately fly so many bin Laden relatives out of America. It is peculiar that a school child in NYC claimed the week beforehand that the WTC would no longer be seen outside his school window, but bin Ladens relatives living in this country had no foreknowledge?Although I'm not yet slamming any doors on anything, I tend to agree with Mike Ruppert that there will NEVER be any resolution and closure to any of the 911 and anthrax investigations -- and therefore, since I am very prone to this conclusion -- then it follows that I must presume that his thesis that the highest eschelons of government are probably ultimately responsible is quite tenable ... therefore, I cannot personally generate livid anger with Vreeland... who afterall is an absolute stranger with a very strange story - like so many of the strange anomalous events transpiring since last September 11th.I also am not angry at Vreeland, nor do I see why others need to be angry with him. Last time I checked, technically in the USA and Canada, someone was presumed truthful and innocent until proven otherwise. Vreeland might not have delivered the goods requested by some on this list, but he may have darn good reasons (from HIS point of view) not to.All the yelling at us to abandon Vreeland, and to doubt his character and integrity, makes me even more curious to see how it will pan out.If Vreeland WAS deemed expendable, and if he found that out - what would you expect him to do? Just run? Given a possible spook background, he would know that running is pointless. If I were in his shoes, I would be doing EXACTLY what he is doing. Attracting attention, holding cards close to my chest, and making noise. I have met a few ex-spooks during the last couple of decades, and have drawn a few conclusions from my discussions with them. I am no longer in touch with any of them, I might add:1) They are all human, and their effective 'use-by-date' is usually about 30-35 years of age. This seems to be when all their blind 'for the good of the country' rationale is used up. The ones I met were all disillusioned - mainly because they ended up learning or realising that they were being used for 'other agendas'. In most cases that they had committed acts (read atrocities) upon relatively innocent people, for a greater 'good'. 2) Their knowledge of the big picture is useless. Information is so compartmentalised, and they are often fed believable but 'not the full-picture' data for their assingments. Ex-spooks can sometimes provide pieces of the picture, but ALL I have met have certainly shown plenty of ignorance of even matters many on this list know to be true.3) Information is compartmentalised, NOT because it may
[CTRL] Sheltering A Puppet Master?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,300609,00.html Sheltering A Puppet Master? BY BRUCE CRUMLEY/PARIS Sunday, Jul. 07, 2002 As worldwide investigations into the mysteries of the Sept. 11 terror conspiracy roll on, officials in Europe have pondered an enigma: Where is Abu Qatada? Described by some justice officials as the spiritual leader and possible puppet master of al-Qaeda's European networks, Abu Qatada has been missing since mid-December after British authorities confiscated his passport, froze his assets and ordered him confined to his London home. With Jordan seeking his return to serve a life sentence for terror-related crimes, some observers figured Abu Qatada went undergroundand perhaps left Britainto avoid extradition. But senior European intelligence officials tell TIME that Abu Qatada is tucked away in a safe house in the north of England, where he and his family are being lodged, fed and clothed by British intelligence services. The deal is that Abu Qatada is deprived of contact with extremists in London and Europe but can't be arrested or expelled because no one officially knows where he is, says the source, whose claims were corroborated by French authorities. The British win because the last thing they want is a hot potato they can't extradite for fear of al-Qaeda reprisals but whose presence contradicts London's support of the war on terror. British security services officials declined to comment. With reporting by Helen Gibson/London -- Outgoing mail is certified virus free Scanned by Norton AntiVirus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jerusalem Post Editorial: No 'isolated incident'
-Caveat Lector- This is my reply to the original message on EEJH. Quotes from the article are in . Tenorlove and CNN's newscaster even helpfully reminded viewers that California is a place where a lot of people walk about carrying around guns. This is inaccurate. Only celebrities and politicians are allowed to walk around with guns in California; the rest of the populace has been disarmed. Richard Garcia, the FBI agent in charge of the investigation, told The New York Times it just as well could have been a hate crime, or perhaps Hadayet might simply have been despondent for some as yet unknown reason, perhaps a financial problem or a family dispute, and that despair drove him to violence. It may well be that Hadayet had personal problems. It is also clear that he was capable of hate. Not defending the guy at all, but naturally, he has to be cast as a lone nut just like Oswald, Ruby, Sirhan, Chapman, Hinckley, McVeigh, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam. Even my 7 year old doesn't buy it. The Israel/AIDS conspiracy is a fantastic anti-Semitic canard widely circulated in Arab circles during the past decade. I think this one is also circulated on our good buddies snort at La Voz del Aztlan. Why the reluctance on the part of some in the US to acknowledge that this was clearly a terrorist attack on American soil? Because it will hurt airline ticket sales. Follow the money. Unless someone beats me to it, I can check to see how much interlocking there is among the boards of directors for the airline companies and the mainstream media. because it would mean admitting that letting such a heavily armed man inside an airport terminal on a day when the nation was at the highest state of alert was a clear lapse of security? Was this lapse deliberate?? (Had Hadayet attacked any counter other then El Al, one wonders if he would have been stopped so quickly and prevented from killing many others). Coming from any other source than the JP, this statement would be decried as antisemitic. Or is this a sign that even after 9/11, many Americans are still grappling with the mind shift needed to wage an extended war on terrorism both at home and abroad? Meaning that Americans have not been willing to lie down and surrender their liberty as easily as say, the people of Germany in the 1930s. But echoing the Hen family, one thing needs to be stated loud and clear about last week's attack at LA airport. This was no isolated incident. The enemies of America vowed to commit a terror strike on American soil on July 4 and they succeeded. America needs to clearly acknowledge this fact, draw the necessary conclusions, and then act on them as swiftly as possible. All I can say is, WATCH THE SPIN, and watch what new draconian laws get proposed in the near future. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LA Airport Shooter is Hashem Mohamed Hadayat - Egyptian Jihad Terrorist
-Caveat Lector- I love how this is used as some sort of proof \ Like if you were in a crashing plane you wouldn't say anything like Oh my god or god help me Of course the statement there are no atheists in foxholes is not a condemnation of atheism so much as a condemnation of foxholes on 7/7/02 8:58 AM, klewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His voice was recorded shouting, I put my faith in Allah! The report held back from referring more directly to the Egyptian copilot's responsibility for the crash. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Council on Foreign Relations Reading Materials
-Caveat Lector- note: Kashmiri's are not Arabs. on 7/7/02 5:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is Kashmiris who may decide the future of the entire [Indian] subcontinent, wrote anthropologist Jonah Blank in Foreign Affairs two years ago. He discussed the various dimensions of the conflict over Kashmir, from the risk of nuclear war to Kashmirs place in the larger Islamist struggle in the Arab world. It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error. Justice Robert H. Jackson NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Londonistan Protects Its Own
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.time.com/time/world/printout/0,8816,300609,00.html }}}Begin Sunday, Jul. 07, 2002 Sheltering A Puppet Master? BY BRUCE CRUMLEY/PARIS As worldwide investigations into the mysteries of the Sept. 11 terror conspiracy roll on, officials in Europe have pondered an enigma: Where is Abu Qatada? Described by some justice officials as the spiritual leader and possible puppet master of al- Qaeda's European networks, Abu Qatada has been missing since mid-December after British authorities confiscated his passport, froze his assets and ordered him confined to his London home. With Jordan seeking his return to serve a life sentence for terror-related crimes, some observers figured Abu Qatada went undergroundand perhaps left Britainto avoid extradition. But senior European intelligence officials tell TIME that Abu Qatada is tucked away in a safe house in the north of England, where he and his family are being lodged, fed and clothed by British intelligence services. The deal is that Abu Qatada is deprived of contact with extremists in London and Europe but can't be arrested or expelled because no one officially knows where he is, says the source, whose claims were corroborated by French authorities. The British win because the last thing they want is a hot potato they can't extradite for fear of al-Qaeda reprisals but whose presence contradicts London's support of the war on terror. British security services officials declined to comment. With reporting by Helen Gibson/London End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cabinet in arms
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.observer.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,750948,00.html }}}Begin Cabinet in arms to Israel row Kamal Ahmed, political editor Sunday July 7, 2002 The Observer Britain is bypassing its own arms embargo on Israel by selling military equipment via America. In a move that has split the Cabinet, the Foreign Office is set to reveal that components for F16 fighter planes will be allowed to leave the country despite being destined for aircraft already sold to Ariel Sharon's government. The move will be viewed with dismay by Arab states and anti-arms campaigners who say the arming of Israel raises tension in the area. One senior Government figure said there was a 'clear understanding' the fighter planes could be used for aggressive acts against the Occupied Territories, in direct contradiction to Tony Blair's call for peace. Israel regularly uses F16s for assaults on the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. They have been used in attacks on Rafah and the Palestinian securty compound in Nablus, killing civilians. Government sources admitted the issue was 'delicate' and that rules on sales to embargoed countries via third countries were vague. One said the charge of hypocrisy would be 'difficult to head off'. 'We look at these things on a case-by-case basis,' said one senior Downing Street official. 'We have to make it clear we will only sell to countries where there are effective procedures for controlling which countries the equipment is sold on to.' The deal will again focus attention on the Government's attitude to military sales abroad and raise the possibility that any arms embargo can be bypassed by selling to a third country. The Government was condemned this year when it was revealed it was backing a £28 million military air traffic control system for Tanzania despite claims the country did not need and could not afford such a high-tech system. The Ministry of Defence has been pushing for the Israel deal to go through, despite opposition from Patricia Hewitt, the Trade and Industry Secretary. She is worried about the negative message such a deal sends to Arab supporters and the rest of the European Union. However, Hewitt will now back the deal as long as the rules on future contracts to third countries are clear. Britain is to provide sophisticated navigation and targeting equipment for the F16s, which are being built in America for Israel. The 'head-up displays' allow pilots to see positional and weapons information displayed in front of each eye without having to look at separate dials. It is sold as allowing pilots to fly with fewer distractions and increasing the accuracy of bombing raids. The MoD admitted the contract was part of a wooing exercise to get US military business. Britain and the US are already planning a £100 billion joint strike fighter project. 'We have to get as much of that business as possible and we cannot be prescriptive on what we will and won't sell them,' said one MoD source. 'The British defence industry employs tens of thousands of people. We have to show we are a reliable supplier of high-tech defence equipment.' The Foreign Office has already officially warned Israel about using British equipment to target the Occupied Territories. In May, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw demanded an explanation from Sharon's government about the use of British military equipment in tanks and attack helicopters. Straw was furious that their use had come to light despite a written pledge from Israel in November 2000 that said 'no UK-originated equipment . . . is used as part of the defence force's activities in the territories'. Campaigners against the new Israeli arms deal will point to guidelines published by the Government in 1997. They said that departments 'will not issue an export licence if there is a clearly identifiable risk that the intended recipient would use the proposed export aggressively against another country'. Although the Palestinian Authority areas are not officially a country, Blair has said that he supports a separate Palestinian state. Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002 End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and
[CTRL] Louis Shows He's Got a Lot of what the Georges Ain't
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/politics/3612103.htm Of course, them Tejaninos confuse spyin' with spine }}}Begin Posted on Sat, Jul. 06, 2002 Louis Farrakhan in Iraq Associated Press BAGHDAD, Iraq - Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan arrived in Baghdad for a two-day visit Saturday to discuss steps that could be taken to avert a possible U.S. military campaign against Iraq. Our purpose here is to see the people of Iraq, hopefully the leadership, and to see what we can do to possibly stop a war, Farrakhan told reporters on his arrival in Baghdad. Farrakhan opposes U.N. sanctions against Iraq. Farrakhan, whose Nation of Islam is based in Chicago, has already been to Qatar, Yemen and Lebanon as part of a Middle East tour. A frequent visitor to the Middle East, Farrakhan's views on race relations in the United States and Jews have made him a source of concern to U.S. authorities. The U.N. Security Council and the United States accuse Iraq of trying to rebuild its banned weapons programs and of supporting terrorism. The world body has failed to persuade Iraq in talks held in Vienna to allow the return of U.N. weapons inspectors. The United States has warned Saddam he faces unspecified consequences if he does not allow the return of the inspectors, who left ahead of 1998 allied airstrikes launched to punish Iraq for blocking inspections. Iraq has been under U.N. sanctions since it invaded Kuwait in 1990. The sanctions can be lifted only when inspectors certify that Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons have been destroyed, along with the long-range missiles that could deliver them. © 2001 tallahassee and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.tallahassee.com End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jerusalem Post Editorial: No 'isolated incident'
-Caveat Lector- It's more than just ticket sales. The govt. needs people to think of terrorists as organized with a clear chain of command, so they can accept a ridiculous concept like war on terror (as if you could fight a technique - it's like saying 'war on sautéing'). All the troops and homeland security and removal of freedoms and billions of military expenditure very clearly make no sense, if a terrorist can work alone, with no planning, no Osama pulling the strings, and no targets after the fact. Just causing terror apparently is no longer the definition of terrorist - you have to be a target an army can aim at, you have to be able to advance America's dive to the right. on 7/7/02 11:56 AM, Tenorlove at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why the reluctance on the part of some in the US to acknowledge that this was clearly a terrorist attack on American soil? Because it will hurt airline ticket sales. Follow the money. Unless someone beats me to it, I can check to see how much interlocking there is among the boards of directors for the airline companies and the mainstream media. -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - The police aren't here to create disorder, they are here to preserve disorder. Mayor Richard Daley NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Uri Avnery: Israel - A Maddened Cow
Title: Re: [CTRL] Uri Avnery: Israel - A Maddened Cow -Caveat Lector- That is such bullshit. I know many Israelis, and NONE of them feel that way. What they want is a country where jews can run from being slaughtered, and not turned away but there are people of every ethnicity and religion in Israel, and most Israelis like it that way. on 7/7/02 11:13 AM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a simple reason: the one thing that unifies almost all Jewish Israelis is the wish to live in a state where there are only Jews. -- Wandering in a vast forest at night, I have only a faint light to guide me. A stranger appears and says to me: ' My friend, you should blow out your candle in order to find your way more clearly.' This stranger is a theologian. Diderot c. 1762 NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Way OT
-Caveat Lector- I concur with Bill's assessment. Keep the infighting off list. AER On 7 Jul 2002 at 9:47, William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/7/02 12:16:21 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But sometimes I miss saba. She ought to be reinstated...she has alot to offer and she does so in a very entertaining style. She is an invaluable resource and we were lucky to have her on this list. June ought to be reinstated too to provide balance. If we can keep the catfighting to a minimum (though I kinda' enjoy it) I think it's time for parole. Bill. Bill. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. == == Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A == == To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om From }}}Begin End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hatfield: Poltergeist?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/opinion/07KRUG.html Again, Hatfield discussed all of this in depth in *Fortunate Son* way back in 1999/2000. This was the book that St Martin's decided not to publish. }}}Begin July 7, 2002 Succeeding in Business By PAUL KRUGMAN On Tuesday, George W. Bush is scheduled to give a speech intended to put him in front of the growing national outrage over corporate malfeasance. He will sternly lecture Wall Street executives about ethics and will doubtless portray himself as a believer in old- fashioned business probity. Yet this pose is surreal, given the way top officials like Secretary of the Army Thomas White, Dick Cheney and Mr. Bush himself acquired their wealth. As Joshua Green says in The Washington Monthly, in a must-read article written just before the administration suddenly became such an exponent of corporate ethics: The `new tone' that George W. Bush brought to Washington isn't one of integrity, but of permissiveness. . . . In this administration, enriching oneself while one's business goes bust isn't necessarily frowned upon. Unfortunately, the administration has so far gotten the press to focus on the least important question about Mr. Bush's business dealings: his failure to obey the law by promptly reporting his insider stock sales. It's true that Mr. Bush's story about that failure has suddenly changed, from the dog ate my homework to my lawyer ate my homework four times. But the administration hopes that a narrow focus on the reporting lapses will divert attention from the larger point: Mr. Bush profited personally from aggressive accounting identical to the recent scams that have shocked the nation. In 1986, one would have had to consider Mr. Bush a failed businessman. He had run through millions of dollars of other people's money, with nothing to show for it but a company losing money and heavily burdened with debt. But he was rescued from failure when Harken Energy bought his company at an astonishingly high price. There is no question that Harken was basically paying for Mr. Bush's connections. Despite these connections, Harken did badly. But for a time it concealed its failure sustaining its stock price, as it turned out, just long enough for Mr. Bush to sell most of his stake at a large profit with an accounting trick identical to one of the main ploys used by Enron a decade later. (Yes, Arthur Andersen was the accountant.) As I explained in my previous column, the ploy works as follows: corporate insiders create a front organization that seems independent but is really under their control. This front buys some of the firm's assets at unrealistically high prices, creating a phantom profit that inflates the stock price, allowing the executives to cash in their stock. That's exactly what happened at Harken. A group of insiders, using money borrowed from Harken itself, paid an exorbitant price for a Harken subsidiary, Aloha Petroleum. That created a $10 million phantom profit, which hid three-quarters of the company's losses in 1989. White House aides have played down the significance of this maneuver, saying $10 million isn't much, compared with recent scandals. Indeed, it's a small fraction of the apparent profits Halliburton created through a sudden change in accounting procedures during Dick Cheney's tenure as chief executive. But for Harken's stock price and hence for Mr. Bush's personal wealth this accounting trickery made all the difference. Oh, and Harken's fake profits were several dozen times as large as the Whitewater land deal though only about one-seventh the cost of the Whitewater investigation. Mr. Bush was on the company's audit committee, as well as on a special restructuring committee; back in 1994, another member of both committees, E. Stuart Watson, assured reporters that he and Mr. Bush were constantly made aware of the company's finances. If Mr. Bush didn't know about the Aloha maneuver, he was a very negligent director. In any case, Mr. Bush certainly found out what his company had been up to when the Securities and Exchange Commission ordered it to restate its earnings. So he can't really be shocked over recent corporate scams. His own company pulled exactly the same tricks, to his considerable benefit. Of course, what really made Mr. Bush a rich man was the investment of his proceeds from Harken in the Texas Rangers a step that is another, equally strange story. The point is the contrast between image and reality. Mr. Bush portrays himself as a regular guy, someone ordinary Americans can identify with. But his personal fortune was built on privilege and insider dealings and after his Harken sale, on large- scale corporate welfare. Some people have it easy. Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company | Permissions | Privacy Policy End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In
Re: [CTRL] Way OT
Title: Re: [CTRL] Way OT -Caveat Lector- on 7/7/02 11:08 AM, RevCOAL at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: William Shannon But sometimes I miss saba. She ought to be reinstated...she has alot to offer Puh-leeze! :-( The only thing 'she' ever had to offer is unsubtantiated inanities... I'm still waiting for proof of 'her' so-called Bible Code via a prediction BEFORE the fact... yeah but it is SO rare to see that kind of delusional paranoia so full blown and on display. I found it fascinating. and she does so in a very entertaining style. Whatever 'entertainment' 'she' provides is extremely thin and short-lived... She is an invaluable resource PUH-LEEZE! Resource of what? Study material for a case of rampant insanity? exactly. I showed more than a few people some of her posts, just to watch their head shaking incredulity. and we were lucky to have her on this list. We were never lucky to have 'her' on the list. We are lucky 'she' is gone... June ought to be reinstated too to provide balance. I can't speak for the list-status of Colleen/Saba, but I was never banned, so I don't need to be reinstated. I've just been really busy of late, and haven't felt the need to respond to recent postings to the list... June __ Created and best viewed with IncrediMail! Get your free copy at: www.incredimail.com http://www.incredimail.com/imstamp.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives" of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A" To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate William of Occam NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Data Day Snooping - Minority Report - Our Future
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=630679in_review_text_id=600719 Data day snooping by Jamie Walters, Metro Imagine a crime-free world where privacy doesn't exist; where governments and advertisers know everything about everyone. This is the world 50 years from now, according to Steven Spielberg's new film, Minority Report, where people are willing to pass on masses of personal information in return for a crime-free society. It is fiction, yet the way we currently use and are used by technology has led civil rights campaigners to say that, with the exception of psychics detecting crimes before they're committed, many of the threats depicted in the film are already with us. Consider your own daily routine and see how much personal information you already give away. 9am: Walk to work In London it is estimated a different CCTV camera will pick you up every 30sec. The entire journey to work will effectively be filmed across a network of cameras, of which there are 2.5million in Britain alone. Not only are these being used by the authorities, most large companies in the UK employ them as well. This data is regularly misused on the Internet and by salacious TV shows. 11am: Send or receive an e-mail This will not only be monitored by your ISP; whether at work or home, the message can also be seen by whoever runs your mail server and your recipient's. And that's just the content of the message; the logs of whom you are sending to and receiving from will be kept automatically by the ISP. Despite the Home Secretary's recent climbdown over e-mail snooping, these logs are still available to numerous government agencies. 2pm: Buy lunch using a loyalty card Supermarkets use loyalty cards to develop a profile of your buying habits and can link this to an address, e-mail and phone number. This information is also misused. In the US, a supermarket called Von's was sued by a customer, Robert Rivera, who'd broken his ankle after slipping in the store. Von's obtained evidence that Rivera may have been drunk at the time from a loyalty card showing regular alcohol purchases. He lost the case. 5.30pm: Phone home on a mobile Mobile phones act like radio transmitters and receivers and, when turned on, the phone company can pinpoint its location to within about 40m in a city. With 3G phones this will come down to 10m, something that is getting advertisers excited. Firms will soon be able to pay phone companies to send text messages telling people to visit their store just as they walk past it. 7.30pm: Surf the Internet from home All Web browsing records are stored by your ISP and, under current proposals, will be kept for seven years. While these are only available to government agencies, private companies have their own ways of tracking our Web use. For instance, US firm Double Click has been making records of access to a large number of sites. They built a huge database of people's Web habits so their clients can target their Web adverts at specific individuals. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] America's Domestic Spying Renaissance
-Caveat Lector- http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2002/tc20020627_3227.htm JUNE 28, 2002 SECURITY FOCUS By Mark Rasch America's Domestic Spying Renaissance John Ashcroft's decision to unshackle the FBI's domestic surveillance powers seem perfectly reasonable... if you forget why the bureau was shackled in the first place Earlier this month, Attorney General Ashcroft announced that he was essentially removing the shackles from the FBI, and permitting agents to engage in surveillance -- including certain Internet surveillance -- of political, social or ethnic groups, without either probable cause or reasonable suspicion that any of these groups had been or were likely to be engaged in any form of criminal activity. In detailing the changes, FBI Director Mueller explained the FBI guidelines that have previously precluded such conduct applied only to the FBI and not other law enforcement agencies, had no basis in Fourth Amendment or other privacy jurisprudence, were voluntary, and were significantly hampering the ability of FBI agents to gather basic intelligence of the sort that could be gathered by any eleven-year-old with a desktop PC. In this day of terrorism, Ashcroft and Mueller hypothesized, law enforcement must be unshackled to prevent all sorts of criminal activities, and fear not, ye defenders of liberty, for the FBI will continue to monitor itself, and keep itself in check. The old FBI guidelines emerged in the wake of Watergate-era revelations that the bureau had engaged in extensive surveillance of political and religious groups for unlawful purposes. In 1976 then-attorney general Edward Levi imposed a series of voluntary restrictions on the authority of the FBI to engage in surveillance of domestic political groups. Under programs like the FBI's COINTELPRO, the bureau had not only engaged in surveillance of political groups -- agents attended political rallies and maintained dossiers on leaders like Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. -- but they went beyond this and actively disrupting the lives and careers of those it considered to be disloyal to America. What is important to note is that these activities were all done without any reason to believe that any of these groups or individuals were engaged in any activity that violated any law. The Levi guidelines -- voluntary only in the sense that they were imposed before Congress could make them mandatory -- stated that investigations of political and religious organizations could be brought only where specific and articulable facts indicated criminal activity, and even then, required reporting directly to the Attorney General -- not simply the FBI director. The guidelines were successively weakened by attorneys general Smith and Thornburgh in the Reagan Administration, to permit preliminary investigations of such groups if there was a reasonable indication of criminal activity. WEB OF SPIES. With the explosive growth of the Internet, particularly during the Clinton administration, privacy advocates and others (particularly those old enough to remember the COINTELPRO program) were naturally concerned about the FBI's role in monitoring the Internet. It is important to distinguish various kinds of monitoring and types of information contained on the Web. At one end of the privacy spectrum are private or personal communications, like e-mail. The interception of such communications requires either a Title III wiretap (which demands a high level of proof to a court that criminal activity is ongoing) or a wiretap order under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which similarly requires a court order from a special intelligence court, but does not require a showing of criminal activity. For the most part, discussions related to Carnivore and Magic Lantern focuses on this type of information. The new guidelines should have little effect on this type of surveillance, since the FBI must at least initiate an investigation and make some showing of probable cause before engaging in this type of spying. It's the other end of the spectrum where the new guidelines come into play. This is the public Internet -- publicly available Web sites, message boards, Web logs and other information that is accessible to anyone online. The real question is whether the FBI should be permitted to gather intelligence, do profile analysis, and research on information that is publicly available to us all, without having to show that it is doing so for the purpose of investigating some specific criminal activity. CHILLING EFFECTS. FBI director Mueller correctly points out that the information the bureau will now gather is, essentially, public information. Sure, the FBI could follow me through the streets and ascertain that I went to a meeting of the local chapter of the Chamber of Commerce, or the Libertarian Party, or an EPIC film opening, but these activities occur in either a public or semi-public space. But this is a red herring. The
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[CTRL] Baby Killer - The Follow-up. The Village Voice Finally Sees Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- Hello Cuz This is a followup on a piece ol Joe posted about 7 weeks back. Since the V Voice more than likely didn't have a clue about this story line until they read my thread, once again I am forced to make the accusation against these folks about copping my stuff. However, since imitation is the highest form of flattery, again I will let them slide...JZ Greetings Fellow Listers, This weeks Voice in a piece on women seeking second trimester abortions in New York may have hit on something, They open the piece with a tale of a gal named Latisha up from Philly who had been afflicted with a rather acute case of brotherly love, as in pregnant. The poe chile didn't know till she was 20 weeks gone. The hospital in Philly assumed for her, she would give birth, despite the continued occurrence of her menestrual cylcle, as well the fact she was on contraceptives. , So she trekked to the Apple, obviously with 'right to life' bloodhounds on her trail/tale. The woman, Latisha speaks of strangers walking into her, literally, in the train station as in 'bumping into her', A woman in the train station grabbing her arm and telling her 'You don't have to do this!" Of course in the Voice reporter Latisha found a sympahetic ear. Had she told this to a mental health counselor in a local nabe clinic she would have been profiled as paranoid. And the corrective measures for this ailment would no doubt severly limit her rights of choice, Afterall, the tragic effect of this conflict of conscience manifesting itself in her having delusions about an anti-abortion group conspiring to prevent her from terminating her pregnancy was merely her psyche crying out for help. What makes her so special that the assasination prone 'right to lifers' would try to stop her second trimester abortion? The Voice piece tells us Latisha had to be hid out while in the Apple (boy I wish TI's got that type of assistance) She will survive thanks to the network of protection surrounding her, protecting her from the forces of violent fundementalist evangelism. But now they see Latisha as a 'BabyKiller' , I wonder what kind of welcome home she will get back in Philly. Latisha just bought a one way ticket on the TI express. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [IAC] Frame-up hides real terrorists
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Action Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: [IAC] Frame-up hides real terrorists International Action Center 39 West 14th St., #206 NY, NY 10011 212-633-6646 fax: 212-633-2889 www.iacenter.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/7/02 Muhajir frame-up hides real terrorists Washington's depleted uranium 'dirty bombs' By Sara Flounders, Co-Director of the International Action Center The writer was co-editor of the book Metal of Dishonor: How the Pentagon Radiates Soldiers and Civilians with DU Weapons (International Action Center, 1997). Much of the information in this article is drawn from Metal of Dishonor. In a dangerous legal precedent and complete violation of constitutional rights, a U.S. citizen is being held without the rights of due process or freedom from unreasonable seizure. Abdullah al Muhajir, a Puerto Rican Muslim from Chicago formerly known as Jose Padilla, is being accused of planning to build a radioactive dirty bomb to attack a U.S. city. According to news reports, Muhajir had no accomplices, no materials, no access to materials and no training in making such a bomb. The prosecution's secret evidence is so flimsy that the government acknowledges it is not likely to obtain an indictment from a grand jury. In the current political climate, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft would likely have no trouble getting an indictment if there was any evidence at all. Muhajir is being held without charges under the legal category of enemy combatant, despite the fact that Congress has not declared war. He was brought to New York, moved to a South Carolina naval brig and then to Department of Defense custody. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Muhajir may never get a trial. But the very charge that Muhajir may have discussed the idea of unleashing a radioactive bomb is so ominous that it has silenced the U.S. corporate media and many civil rights organizations. Using the charge that an unfolding terrorist plot to attack the United States with a radioactive 'dirty bomb' had been disrupted, U.S. government attacks on civil rights and civil liberties have reached an ominous new level. While in Moscow on June 10, Ashcroft called a dramatic press conference to announce Muhajir's arrest. Ashcroft announced that the FBI and the CIA, working together, had uncovered this nefarious plot. Ashcroft assured the media that such a bomb would have caused mass death and injury. Muhajir had been held incommunicado since his arrest on May 8 at O'Hare International Airport. Ashcroft's grand announcement in Moscow--five weeks after Muhajir's arrest--conveniently coincided with President George Bush's unveiling of a new Homeland Security Department. Who are real 'dirty bombers'? A quick search on the Internet reveals hundreds of news stories debating the possible problems of evacuating major U.S. cities if a terrorist group set off a radioactive dirty bomb. What is a dirty bomb? Has such a dangerous radioactive weapon ever been used? Who would dream of unleashing radioactive materials, especially on unprotected and defenseless civilian targets? Reports in the U.S. corporate media have described in great detail that a dirty bomb combines conventional explosives-even dynamite-with radioactive material. An explosion can spew radiation over a large area. However, not one of the hundreds of news reports dares to state the truth: The United States is the only country that has extensively used radioactive dirty bombs all over the world. The Pentagon's dirty bombs are made with a core of highly toxic and radioactive depleted uranium (DU) packed in a conventional explosive. By their own admission, the U.S. government has used thousands of these radioactive bombs in Iraq and Yugoslavia. Angry mass movements have forced the U.S. government to acknowledge that it has test-fired these radioactive weapons at U.S. bases in Okinawa, Japan, Vieques, Puerto Rico, and south Korea. The army has also tested these weapons at more than 25 domestic sites, including Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland, according to a 1995 Army Environmental Policy Institute report. Why the Pentagon uses DU Radioactive waste is not difficult to obtain. It's given away free to U.S. weapons manufacturers. So it is an enormously profitable weapon for military contractors. Uranium is a heavy metal--twice as heavy as lead. Weapons made with DU have greater range and higher accuracy than conventional weapons. The problem is that DU is both toxic and radioactive. It is also pyrophoric, meaning that it burns fiercely on impact and is transformed into a fine uranium oxide powder or dust. The dust particles measure less than 1.5 microns--small enough to lodge in the lungs and other internal organs. This radioactive dust can be carried on the wind. It
Re: [CTRL] Baby Killer - The Follow-up. The Village Voice Finally Sees Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- Let's see how soon the Village Voice will do a story about the women who decided not to have an abortion after talking with pro-lifers, telling readers what new pieces of information were given that changed the direction of their lives. They could interview individuals who would have been aborted. The pro-aborts have something in common with the terrorist families. They also cheer when someone can get killed. -Caveat Lector- Hello Cuz This is a followup on a piece ol Joe posted about 7 weeks back. Since the V Voice more than likely didn't have a clue about this story line until they read my thread, once again I am forced to make the accusation against these folks about copping my stuff. However, since imitation is the highest form of flattery, again I will let them slide...JZ Greetings Fellow Listers, This weeks Voice in a piece on women seeking second trimester abortions in New York may have hit on something, They open the piece with a tale of a gal named Latisha up from Philly who had been afflicted with a rather acute case of brotherly love, as in pregnant. The poe chile didn't know till she was 20 weeks gone. The hospital in Philly assumed for her, she would give birth, despite the continued occurrence of her menestrual cylcle, as well the fact she was on contraceptives. , So she trekked to the Apple, obviously with 'right to life' bloodhounds on her trail/tale. The woman, Latisha speaks of strangers walking into her, literally, in the train station as in 'bumping into her', A woman in the train station grabbing her arm and telling her 'You don't have to do this! Of course in the Voice reporter Latisha found a sympahetic ear. Had she told this to a mental health counselor in a local nabe clinic she would have been profiled as paranoid. And the corrective measures for this ailment would no doubt severly limit her rights of choice, Afterall, the tragic effect of this conflict of conscience manifesting itself in her having delusions about an anti-abortion group conspiring to prevent her from terminating her pregnancy was merely her psyche crying out for help. What makes her so special that the assasination prone 'right to lifers' would try to stop her second trimester abortion? The Voice piece tells us Latisha had to be hid out while in the Apple (boy I wish TI's got that type of assistance) She will survive thanks to the network of protection surrounding her, protecting her from the forces of violent fundementalist evangelism. But now they see Latisha as a 'BabyKiller' , I wonder what kind of welcome home she will get back in Philly. Latisha just bought a one way ticket on the TI express. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. == == Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A == == To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Way OT
-Caveat Lector- no... thankyou. iggy William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/7/02 12:16:21 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But sometimes I miss saba. She ought to be reinstated...she has alot to offer and she does so in a very entertaining style. She is an invaluable resource and we were lucky to have her on this list. June ought to be reinstated too to provide balance. If we can keep the catfighting to a minimum (though I kinda' enjoy it) I think it's time for parole. Bill. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org/A> DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl/A> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Spy Tracking
-Caveat Lector- I always carry cameras to record the actions of indiots, spies, and other a** on the road. If you are in front or in back of me, you are probably being recorded. Have a nice drive. Steve In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Way OT
-Caveat Lector- thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- on 7/7/02 11:08 AM, RevCOAL at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: William Shannon But sometimes I miss saba. She ought to be reinstated...she has alot to offer Puh-leeze! :-( The only thing 'she' ever had to offer is unsubtantiated inanities... I'm still waiting for proof of 'her' so-called Bible Code via a prediction BEFORE the fact... yeah but it is SO rare to see that kind of delusional paranoia so full blown and on display. I found it fascinating. Amen, bring her back! I use her material as a signpost to the Twilight Zone. I know if I've gone beyond her I'm out there. She reminds me of Kansan1225 on various Usenet newsgroups. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PBS on Tesla
-Caveat Lector- http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ Not a bad special from PBS on Tesla - just saw it on KCSM (they also have the best jazz station in the SF Bay). The website doesn't capture the feel of the show, but it raises some good questions - it starts out mentioning how Tesla basically got shafted for all his contributions and by whom, and which is barely mentioned in history, except by fringe publications. It then details many of his discoveries and inventions, and his relations to the scientific community, and also potential political enemies and coverup of his discoveries. The program ends with some pointed questions about the missing mention of his name in technological contributions, and how the omission may have been intentional - the missing papers. Beam weaponry. Star Wars ... ahem. HAARP, too. Not bad for PBS. Not entirely revealing - it shrinks back sometimes when it should go forward to find answers - but it's still not bad. At the least, it certainly doesn't dismiss Tesla. - jt A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om