[CTRL] JBS Announces Major New Web Site to Support Campaign (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:11:42 -0600 From: The John Birch Society [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JBS Announces Major New Web Site to Support Campaign Legislative Alert: Activate Congress to Reject the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) Background: The Central American Free Trade Agreement, which was negotiated last month, will soon go before Congress for its approval. The administration is using CAFTA as a significant steppingstone to facilitate the even broader and much more dangerous Free Trade Area of the Americas, which envisions the ultimate merger of all nations of the Western Hemisphere under a European Union-style supranational government. Fortunately, CAFTA may be the most politically vulnerable of the series of FTA's designed to set the stage for the FTAA, the granddaddy of them all. Building opposition to CAFTA is an opportunity to build a foundation of opposition to the FTAA. Request: Contact your representative and senators now in opposition to CAFTA. Then persuade others to check out our Stop the FTAA web site and do the same. http://www.stoptheftaa.org/news/ You are receiving this e-mail because you have subscribed to The John Birch Society Legislative Alert Network as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, reply to this message with the subject Unsubscribe.' To contact the staff, visit: http://www.jbs.org/visitor/contact/ Be sure to check out our other lists: American Opinion Book Services E-mail Network http://www.aobs-store.com/alerts/ Stop the FTAA Alert List http://www.stoptheftaa.org/alerts/ Get US out! of the United Nations E-mail Network http://www.getusout.org/alerts/ The New American Alert Network http://www.thenewamerican.com/contact/alert.htm TRIM E-mail Network http://www.trimonline.org/alert/ Join all of our Alert Lists at once http://www.jbs.org/visitor/contact/alerts.htm The John Birch Society www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Willie Nelson song condemns Irag Oil War, and liars. Lyrics.
-Caveat Lector- --- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Willie Nelson song condemns war in Iraq. Nelson will play it in Austin, Texas on Saturday. Nakano comments: Bob Dylan and Muhammed Ali were right about the Vietnam War. Willie Nelson is right about this war. The people are never told the real reasons wars are fought. We are always fed some righteous sounding lies and propaganda about protecting our homeland, justice, truth, God, freedom, etc. It always works. The people swallow it every time. The blue pill is so much easier to swallow than the red pill of truth. And the bewildered herd is still believing Everything we've been told from our birth -Willie Nelson __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Deportation Process For Illegal Aliens DESIGNED TO FAIL!
-Caveat Lector- --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The deportation process for illegal aliens and criminal alien residents is designed for failure. [YES!] The lack of physical security on the land border exposes the [WAR ON TERRORISM] for the charade that it is. The War on Terrorism is also designed for failure. It is amazing the American People can't see the absolute illogic of sending the U.S. Military to distant foreign lands to find and fight terrorists, while our own borders are left open and undefended. Nakano __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Kucinich: fervently unconventional
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Kucinich: fervently unconventional By Harry Bruinius | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor http://search.csmonitor.com/2004/0102/p01s03-uspo.html HOPKINTON, N.H. - Dressed in a long black overcoat, looking a little like a wizened wizard from the snowy New Hampshire woods, Dennis Kucinich strides confidently into a chilly toolshed at Derek Owen's 200-acre organic farm. As he stops to survey the 30 or so locals who have come to hear him speak, he grins: These are his people. There's Mr. Owen - his gray mutton-chop beard still flecked with snow - holding dirty yellow work gloves as he extends his greeting. His green cap, stuck with a feather, reads, Farm Here to Eternity. Over there, in the corner, is Mark Lathrop, the burly proprietor of the Monadnock Hemporium, wearing a broad-brimmed leather cowboy hat. He's a fierce advocate for the decriminalization of marijuana. Opposite him, near the door, stands Elizabeth Obelenus, smiling. She's the tall office manager for the Northeast Organic Farming Association, the informal sponsor of the talk tonight, and she's most worried about the unknown dangers of genetically modified organisms. They're all applauding. Good job last night! says one of an older couple near the pegboard on the wall. You were our hero! the other adds. As the diminutive Cleveland congressman shakes their hands and nods, he tells them he's been hearing the same all day. He'd created a bit of a buzz the night before after lashing out at Ted Koppel, the moderator of the debate in nearby Concord, and scolding him for focusing on polls and endorsements rather than important issues. Like his nonconformist audience this evening, Mr. Kucinich is a candidate with quirks. A strict vegan, he would hardly be the type to throw a Crawford, Texas, barbecue. A skilled ventriloquist, he keeps a dummy in his office to entertain school kids who visit him on field trips. Twice divorced, he recently went on an early-morning blind date with a woman who had beaten out 79 others in a Who Wants to Be a First Lady contest, put on by the website PoliticsNH.com. And though he comes from the Rust Belt shores of Lake Erie, he often speaks more as a New England transcendentalist, straight from Walden Pond. We need to be certain that we have agricultural policies that are rooted in a philosophy which connects us to the power of nature itself, Kucinich tells the bundled-up country folk gathered in the shed. We need to recognize the important role agriculture plays - like Derek's cap says, 'Farm Here to Eternity.' One of his top priorities as president, he explains, would be to break up the big corporations that control the food supply and threaten the small farmers who have long been the foundation of American democracy. In the same 19th-century vein, Kucinich often urges his audiences to read Emerson's Self-Reliance, an essay he says he's read at least once a year since he was a boy. Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string, he often quotes. To believe that what is true for you in your private heart is true for all men, - that is genius. Nonconformists, however, are by definition few and far between, and Kucinich is near the bottom of the polls. Beyond this band of pastoral farmers, few have even heard of Dennis Kucinich - Is he the one with the ears? Yet it's become a refrain as he travels the well-worn New Hampshire campaign trail: When people do hear him speak, many admire his passion and spin free fervor. As co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, Kucinich has been one of the most outspoken liberal voices in the Democratic Party. Since he stakes out positions that a more cautious candidate might consider, well, politically eccentric, some voters find him both curious and refreshing - though they think he cannot win. The others,
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] noodoo economics Re: Army to Expand Stop-Loss Program
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DefenseLINK News: News Articles
Is there a breaking point? - JR
It's difficult to see how much is due to much-publicized
non-planning, how much on neocon idealogically-based
optimism, and how much is due to taking our military
hostage to extort an end to the 500,000 personnel cap.
Could this be like CIA arguing for more money to bridge
the narrow gap between not quite enough and enough
911 intel? Make a problem sell a solution? It's election
year, I wonder if this horrendous mis-management can
be managed by casting it as the Democrats' fault.
Only Osama bin Laden knows for sure("noodoo
economics").
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Army to Expand Stop-Loss Program
By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Jan. 2, 2004 -- Army officials
are expected to expand the stop- loss/stop-movement program soon to
include more soldiers deployed in support of the war on terror.
An Army announcement, expected within the next week or two, will
broaden the number of soldiers whose separations, retirements and
reassignments are temporarily placed "on hold."
The expansion of the stop-loss/stop-movement program comes just as
the Army prepares for a major rotation of troops in Iraq within the
next few months.
Lt. Gen. Dennis Cavin, commander of U.S. Army Accessions Command,
said during a CNN interview today that the stop-loss program is
designed "to provide continuity and consistency" for deployed units and
to enhance their ability "to execute their mission to the highest
degree of their effectiveness."
He insisted that the program does not mean that the Army has a
shortage of qualified troops to support the war on terror. Cavin said
the Army remains "very successful" in its recruiting efforts and
continues to "bring in top- quality men and women who want to make a
difference."
The current stop-loss restrictions took effect Nov. 13 and cover
active-duty soldiers while they are deployed outside the continental
United States in support of Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraq1
Freedom.
The restrictions bar voluntary separations and retirements for
soldiers in designated units beginning 90 days before deployment until
90 days after their units return to their home stations.
In addition, the stop-movement policy essentially suspends the
normal rotation of soldiers into and out of affected units.
The Army's Reserve Component Unit Stop Loss policy took effect in
November 2002. It applies to Reserve and National Guard soldiers
deployed in support of the war on terror, from the time their unit is
alerted until 90 days after demobilization.
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[CTRL] Fwd: plant oil fuel Re: [cia-drugs] Willie Nelson song condemns Irag Oil War, and liars. Lyrics.
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Arlene Johnson wrote: Hemp can be used for oil? I have a demand to use hemp to make paper as it was in George Washington's day. Could we produce enough hemp to have both? We need to save our trees too, you know. That's why I thought it a good idea to use hemp for paper. Can you explain what biomass conversion to fuel is? Peace, Arlene It's so simple it can be done in a five-gallon plastic bucket with used french fry oil and detergent. It's just a bit labor intensive so as to lead naturally to a village-scale operation. Used frying oil, plant oils such as hemp and mustard seed all can be converted to fuel oil for heating that needs no furnace modification, and to diesel and gasoline with more and higher technology required. Another irony at this point in history is that plant oil based fuels clean the whole fuel system from the tank on. It's actually a problem at conversion time because the plant fuel dissolves sludge and tar that petroleum fuel left alone or deposited, and at first that sludge plugs up the atomizing orifice. Yet another irony is that the federal government is actually doing something productive at USDA's experimental farm in Beltsville, Maryland. About the most reactionary thing they're doing is giving out formulas including some proportion of petro based fuel in the mix. Mustard seed might be the best, but hemp has other uses, so that might make it the best-- http://www.ratical.org/renewables/hempHDRT.html http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1279/1999_August/55226118/p1/article.jhtml One use Rockefeller oil interests have for Christianity is the trojan horse known as fossil fuel. Fossil fuel dogmatism justifies killing for oil. Suppose that there never were on one given day enough dinosaurs and jungle vegetation to squash into all of the oil extracted so far? Recent science proves that there is no organic residue in deep-well oil, that dry old Pennsylvania oil fields have refilled from underneath, and Hollywood, not the bible, Hollywood being no friend of the bible or Christians, represents that there were enough dinosaurs to squash to make so much oil. Abiotic oil from the earth's core fits the science and does not conflict with the bible, only with Rockefeller and Hollywood and Rand, all wolves bearing sheepskins. http://www.google.com/search?q=abiotic+oil The usual suspects are already trying to patent genmod mustard seeds and contaminate the seed base with them, and of course hemp is classified as illegal under marijuana laws. http://www.google.com/search?q=genetically+modified+mustard+seed -Bob Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A
[CTRL] Fwd: plant oil fuel Re: [cia-drugs] Willie Nelson song condemns Irag Oil War, and liars. Lyrics.
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- I didn't mean to imply that plants can be turned to fuel in a plastic bucket. Plants with lots of sugar can be turned to alcohol. Liquified gas is another form of fuel that can be made from plants and also from animal dung (methane, just compost it under a large bell-shaped collector piped to compressor). What is already commercial is plant-based heating oil and diesel. -Bob Bob wrote: Arlene Johnson wrote: Hemp can be used for oil? I have a demand to use hemp to make paper as it was in George Washington's day. Could we produce enough hemp to have both? We need to save our trees too, you know. That's why I thought it a good idea to use hemp for paper. Can you explain what biomass conversion to fuel is? Peace, Arlene It's so simple it can be done in a five-gallon plastic bucket with used french fry oil and detergent. It's just a bit labor intensive so as to lead naturally to a village-scale operation. Used frying oil, plant oils such as hemp and mustard seed all can be converted to fuel oil for heating that needs no furnace modification, and to diesel and gasoline with more and higher technology required. Another irony at this point in history is that plant oil based fuels clean the whole fuel system from the tank on. It's actually a problem at conversion time because the plant fuel dissolves sludge and tar that petroleum fuel left alone or deposited, and at first that sludge plugs up the atomizing orifice. Yet another irony is that the federal government is actually doing something productive at USDA's experimental farm in Beltsville, Maryland. About the most reactionary thing they're doing is giving out formulas including some proportion of petro based fuel in the mix. Mustard seed might be the best, but hemp has other uses, so that might make it the best-- http://www.ratical.org/renewables/hempHDRT.html http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1279/1999_August/55226118/p1/article.jhtml One use Rockefeller oil interests have for Christianity is the trojan horse known as "fossil fuel". Fossil fuel dogmatism justifies killing for oil. Suppose that there never were on one given day enough dinosaurs and jungle vegetation to squash into all of the oil extracted so far? Recent science proves that there is no organic residue in deep-well oil, that dry old Pennsylvania oil fields have refilled from underneath, and Hollywood, not the bible, Hollywood being no friend of the bible or Christians, represents that there were enough dinosaurs to squash to make so much oil. Abiotic oil from the earth's core fits the science and does not conflict with the bible, only with Rockefeller and Hollywood and Rand, all wolves bearing sheepskins. http://www.google.com/search?q=abiotic+oil The usual suspects are already trying to patent genmod mustard seeds and contaminate the seed base with them, and of course hemp is classified as illegal under marijuana laws. http://www.google.com/search?q=genetically+modified+mustard+seed -Bob Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Diesel biomass fuel til 1920, D's death 1913
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- The patent ran out and Diesel died seven years before Cummins(it sounds like) started using petroleum fuel. Diesel used peanut fuel. Ford used alcohol for a while. The use of diesel engines in German and French submarines could have gotten Diesel dumped overboard on his way to England. His strange behavior could have been because he knew the risk of making a trip to England. -Bob http://www.ybiofuels.org/bio_fuels/history_diesel.html The development of the diesel engine and biofuels run concurrent in their history, weaving a story of technological advancement and political and economic struggle. The story of the diesel engine is the more technological aspect of this history, but it becomes easy to see how the political and economic aspects of biofuels impacted its evolution. Rudolph Diesel (1858-1913) developed a theory that revolutionized the engines of his day. He envisioned an engine in which air is compressed to such a degree that there is an extreme rise in temperature. When fuel is injected into the piston chamber with this air, the fuel is ignited by the high temperature of the air, exploding it, forcing the piston down. Diesel designed his engine in response to the heavy resource consumption and inefficiency of the steam engine, which only produced 12% efficiency. On February 27, 1892, Diesel filed for a patent at the Imperial Patent Office in Germany. Within a year, he was granted Patent No. 67207 for a Working Method and Design for Combustion Engines . . .a new efficient, thermal engine. With contracts from Frederick Krupp and other machine manufacturers, Diesel began experimenting and building working models of his engine. In 1893, the first model ran under its own power with 26% efficiency, remarkably more than double the efficiency of the steam engines of his day. Finally, in February of 1897, he ran the first diesel engine suitable for practical use, which operated at an unbelievable efficiency of 75%. Diesel demonstrated his engine at the Exhibition Fair in Paris, France in 1898. This engine stood as an example of Diesel's vision because it was fueled by peanut oil - the original biodiesel. He thought that the utilization of a biomass fuel was the real future of his engine. He hoped that it would provide a way for the smaller industries, farmers, and commonfolk a means of competing with the monopolizing industries, which controlled all energy production at that time, a s well as serve as an alternative for the inefficient fuel consumption of the steam engine. As a result of Diesel's vision, compression ignited engines were powered by a biomass fuel, vegetable oil, until the 1920's and are being powered again, today, by biodiesel. The early diesel engines were not small enough or light enough for anything but stationary use due to the size of the fuel injection pump. They were produced primarily for industrial and shipping in the early 1900's. Ships and submarines be nefited greatly from the efficiency of this new engine, which was slowly beginning to gain populariity. Rudolph Diesel literally disappeared in 1913. There is some question of the timing of Diesel's death. Some think it might have been accidental or even a suicide. However, others considered a possible political motivation. Diesel did not agree with the politics of Germany and was reluctant to see his engine used by their Naval fleet. With his political support directed towards France and Britain, he was on his way to England to arrange for them to use his engine when he inexplicably disappeared over the side of the ship in the English Channel. This clearly opened the way for the German submarine fleet to be powered solely by Rudolph Diesel's engine. The Wolf Packs, as they were to become known, inflicted heavy damage on Allied shipping during World War I. Still others
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Rudolph Diesel paperback
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Diesel's once-renewed German patent had expired. This account didn't say about the US and other patents. http://www.google.com/search?q=rudolph+diesel http://members.shaw.ca/diesel-duck/library/articles/rudolph_diesel.htm Biography of Rudolph Diesel Authored by Martin Leduc Rudolph Christian Carl Diesel Born March 18, 1858, Paris Died September 29, 1913, in the English Channel Rudolph Diesel was born to Theodor and Elise Diesel in their small Paris apartment at 38 rue de Notre Dame In order to manage the explosive growth of the Diesel engine. Rudolph establishes a company to manage the licensing. It buys all patent, and is tasked with the further developments and management of the new engine. It is called the General Diesel Corporation, and is founded on September 17, 1898. Rudolph is paid a sum of 3.5 million German marks. Shortly after, he is diagnosed with nervous exhaustion and enters a private sanitarium in Munchen. After leaving the sanitarium, not feeling any better, he was further agonized by the fantastic fortune beginning to roll in and the problems associated with it. The violent headaches were becoming more prevalent. The doctors decide that a "rest castle" in the Alps might be better for him then the sanitarium close to home in April of 1898. While there, Rudolph invested heavily into an oil development in the Balkans, it went sour. He had lost 300,000 marks, at a time when his "dream" mansion, Maria - Theresia _ Strasse 32, was taking shape. The mansion was magnificent. It had all the "modern luxury", as well as kids amenities. Plumbing and wired to the highest standards, marble fireplaces in every room. Even the windows were custom made. The decoration was luxurious. Painted, vaulted ceiling, French furniture, Italian wardrobes etc. All, for a staggering sum of money. The Diesel's financial situation was hinging precariously close to disaster. But all was not doomed. Rudolph was invited witness the first flight of the 128 meter Luftshiftf Zeppelin 1 airship. As well in 1900, the grandest event ever. The Diesel engine takes the Grand Prix, the highest prize, at the 1900 Paris Exposition. The exposition was attended by 50 million people. In 1904 Rudolph attended a car race in Germany, he came back excited about a machine which could go so fast, a gas powered Mercedes. But he overestimated his ability to drive it, mainly his vision and gouty right foot, so he hired a driver. Later in that year Rudolph decided to travel to the United States. After spending some time in New York City, he traveled to St Louis where he was a guest of Adolphus Busch who was having a tough time selling the engine in the United State. He traveled far and wide, and took all the sight in. Amazingly the trip rejuvenated him, and as soon as he came back to Germany, he designed and built a four cylinder "petite" version of his engine. It later wins the Grand Prix in Paris in 1910, once again. In 1907 his daughter Heddy marries Arnold von Schmidt, an engineer. Its social event of the year in Munchen. Amidst the wedding joy, the headaches came back, with an astonishing loss of 3.5 millions marks, it was no wonder. Additionally the patent ran out on the Diesel engine. Indeed a tumultuous year for the Diesels. In 1911, Rudolph is invited to co-guest of honor with Sir Charles Parsons at the World Congress of Mechanical Engineers in London. Sir Parsons was the inventor of the compound steam turbine. Continuing in his travels, he and Martha go to the US. Once again to help Mr. Busch sell the floundering diesel engine in America. But America the land of plenty, as too many resources to really care about an efficient engine. They return to the Germany and a lawsuit from a real estate company, he is forced to pay 600,000
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Diesel biomass fuel til 1920, D's death 1913
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- The patent ran out and Diesel died seven years before Cummins(it sounds like) started using petroleum fuel. Diesel used peanut fuel. Ford used alcohol for a while. The use of diesel engines in German and French submarines could have gotten Diesel dumped overboard on his way to England. His strange behavior could have been because he knew the risk of making a trip to England. -Bob http://www.ybiofuels.org/bio_fuels/history_diesel.html The development of the diesel engine and biofuels run concurrent in their history, weaving a story of technological advancement and political and economic struggle. The story of the diesel engine is the more technological aspect of this history, but it becomes easy to see how the political and economic aspects of biofuels impacted its evolution. Rudolph Diesel (1858-1913) developed a theory that revolutionized the engines of his day. He envisioned an engine in which air is compressed to such a degree that there is an extreme rise in temperature. When fuel is injected into the piston chamber with this air, the fuel is ignited by the high temperature of the air, exploding it, forcing the piston down. Diesel designed his engine in response to the heavy resource consumption and inefficiency of the steam engine, which only produced 12% efficiency. On February 27, 1892, Diesel filed for a patent at the Imperial Patent Office in Germany. Within a year, he was granted Patent No. 67207 for a Working Method and Design for Combustion Engines . . .a new efficient, thermal engine. With contracts from Frederick Krupp and other machine manufacturers, Diesel began experimenting and building working models of his engine. In 1893, the first model ran under its own power with 26% efficiency, remarkably more than double the efficiency of the steam engines of his day. Finally, in February of 1897, he ran the first diesel engine suitable for practical use, which operated at an unbelievable efficiency of 75%. Diesel demonstrated his engine at the Exhibition Fair in Paris, France in 1898. This engine stood as an example of Diesel's vision because it was fueled by peanut oil - the original biodiesel. He thought that the utilization of a biomass fuel was the real future of his engine. He hoped that it would provide a way for the smaller industries, farmers, and commonfolk a means of competing with the monopolizing industries, which controlled all energy production at that time, a s well as serve as an alternative for the inefficient fuel consumption of the steam engine. As a result of Diesel's vision, compression ignited engines were powered by a biomass fuel, vegetable oil, until the 1920's and are being powered again, today, by biodiesel. The early diesel engines were not small enough or light enough for anything but stationary use due to the size of the fuel injection pump. They were produced primarily for industrial and shipping in the early 1900's. Ships and submarines be nefited greatly from the efficiency of this new engine, which was slowly beginning to gain populariity. Rudolph Diesel literally disappeared in 1913. There is some question of the timing of Diesel's death. Some think it might have been accidental or even a suicide. However, others considered a possible political motivation. Diesel did not agree with the politics of Germany and was reluctant to see his engine used by their Naval fleet. With his political support directed towards France and Britain, he was on his way to England to arrange for them to use his engine when he inexplicably disappeared over the side of the ship in the English Channel. This clearly opened the way for the German submarine fleet to be powered solely by Rudolph Diesel's engine. The Wolf Packs, as they were to become known, inflicted heavy damage on Allied shipping during World War I. Still others
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] second fascist witchhunt against Diesel
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- http://members.shaw.ca/diesel-duck/library/articles/rudolph_diesel.htm The Diesel considered themselves Bavarian, with more of a French influence than Prussian. But unfortunately France declared war on Prussia on July 19, 1869. The French army was losing ground and displaced persons quickly engulfed Paris seeking refuge. Being of German descent, the Diesels were ordered out of the country. On September 6 the Diesels boarded a steamer from Rouen to New haven, England. http://www.planetfuels.co.uk/history/index.php His death has never been properly explained but it is thought that he may have been assassinated by the German government to keep diesel engine technology out of the UK submarine fleet. Germany was preparing for war at the time but Rudolph Diesel remained friends with many leading members of the British government and military. [France had diesel subs before Germans, could have been them again -Bob] After Rudolph Diesel's death the petroleum industry capitalised on the diesel engine by naming one of their by-products of the gasoline distillation process 'diesel fuel'. Within a few years, the petroleum companies had monopolised the market for cheap fuel with their by-product and it was largely forgotten that diesel engines could be powered on just about anything. Using biodiesel offers a chance to break this hold and return production of fuel back to small-scale local producers. The ability to produce a high-grade road fuel using a local waste product, without the need for expensive technology is just one of the many advantages of Biodiesel. Nearly 100 years after his death we might see Rudolph Diesels vision achieved. We are able to supply Biodiesel in the following quantities: 25 Litre Drums 1000 Litre IBC's Bulk by Tanker Delivery We aim to retail our fuel at BELOW forecourt prices for PETROdiesel. Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: What To Do When The Next Attack Happens -- Follow up to Kucinich Thread
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- Title: Message -Caveat Lector- My thinking is completely different. I assume that another attack IS going to happen. We certainly cannot prevent it. We dont have the intelligence data to prevent it. The credibility of the 9/11 movement is not the issue (The glass is half empty). The issue is what can the 9/11 (anti-covert ops) movement (which is hundreds of times larger than what existed on 9/11) do WHEN the attack happens? How can we dilute its intended impact (The glass is half full)? We need to start preparing checklists about how to save and compare information. Who has TIVOs to record key broadcasts that will be contradicted by later stories as the govt tailors reports to fit the cover up? Who has adobe PDF (the full suite) and can save web pages from major media sites intact to prove that certain stories were published? Who will be tasked with monitoring the hundreds of different media outlets, radio frequencies, sideband, shortwave and other electronic broadcasts? Who will start a master log of reports and events? The greatest chance of solving the crime, just like at a homicide crime scene, exists in the first 72 hours. Remember that on 9/11 we had reports of a truck bomb at the Brooklyn Bridge and a suicide truck bombing at the State Department? That was because no plan is ever carried off perfectly and the bad guys plan on being able to tailor the media to fit the story as they spin it later. Thats the way it was done with JFK, RFK, MLK and 9/11 itself. Today we have an incredible advantage. There are thousands of us. We have the internet and the ability to store, record and share information almost instantaneously. On 9/11, as the attacks were still in progress, I sent out an urgent message to the CIA-Drugs list suggesting that people turn on VCRs, tape recorders and start log books. I asked them to immediately start scouring the internet for information. It made quite a difference in FTWs early stories which were the first to make critical points that have made it into mainstream media today. These are the points that are hurting Bush now. As one example, a retired CIA source (Leutrell Osborne) saved an Izvestia story on Sept. 12th that was later sanitized of several very incriminating paragraphs about forewarnings. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/izvestia_story_pic.html I have a half dozen other instances where early work to save the evidence has made all the difference. Its the reason why FTW broke almost every major 9/11 angle (except for the fighters) before anyone else did. And that includes many aspects of the insider trading, plans to invade Afghanistan being known before the attacks, and very early reports from the Indian press that led to Omar Saeed Shaikh, the $100,000 payoff to Mohammed Atta and briefings from other foreign governments. Within two days or so of the attacks I posted a message to that list suggesting that someone needed to look at the flight schools right away and Dan Hopsicker had done an incredible job with that far better than I could have done. We are so much stronger now. Lets not worry about what the 9/11 movement might lose in terms of credibility with the masses. This was never going to be a quick or easy fight. I speak from 25 years of experience. Speaking as one with great experience on another topic; if people are afraid of being criticized for questioning the government they shouldnt be involved. Struggles for survival should be distinguished from popularity contests. In a ham and eggs breakfast the chicken is involved but the pig is committed. When the next attack occurs, if we keep our wits, plan ahead and follow the plan, we just might be able to break the whole mess wide open with quick and decisive collective action. Mike Ruppert www.fromthewilderness.com -Original
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Baron Hans Heinrich Thyssen-Bornemisza De Kaszon, Art collector 1921-2002
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An old master and his many mistresses
May 11 2002
Baron Hans Heinrich Thyssen-Bornemisza De Kaszon, Art collector
1921-2002
Baron Hans Heinrich Thyssen- Bornemisza De Kaszon, who has died in Spain aged
81, was one of the richest men in Europe - his fortune has been estimated at
more than £2 billion ($5.4 billion) - and the owner of one of the world's great
art collections.
When ''Heini" Thyssen inherited from his father, Heinrich, a vast collection
of old masters, he thought there were ''already too many ... I felt sure I would
never have to buy another as long as I lived".
But when Heinrich's will was challenged under Swiss law by his three other
children, and the collection was broken up, young Heini became obsessed with the
urge to buy back pictures taken by his siblings and to add more and more works
of art to his portfolio. The original collection of 400 old masters grew to one
of nearly 600, while Thyssen acquired another 900 modern works.
In later years, he devoted most of his time, and up to £40 million a year, to
art deals. His only rival in scale of possessions was the Queen, ''but," the
baron observed dryly, ''I think the Queen is not, perhaps, really a
collector."
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Thyssen was extraordinarily eclectic in his taste, buying Jackson Pollock one
day, Holbein the next. He was genuinely passionate about art. ''It is universal.
It is impossible to have a disagreeable conversation about it. It should be
shared by everyone," he declared.
But he was also notably hard-headed about its financial value. He expected
governments to pay for the privilege of public access to his collection and
often deployed loans from it to open doors on behalf of his business
interests.
By 1986, the collection had overwhelmed the Villa Favorita. Thyssen was
concerned that the bulk of it should be kept together after his death and had
secured an agreement with his children to that effect.
He then asked the Swiss authorities to fund an enlargement of his museum, but
theyoffered less than $3 million. Piqued, Thyssen embarked on a search for a
new site outside Switzerland which would be worthy of his patronage. Both Prince
Charles and Mrs Thatcher flew to Switzerland to put in a bid for Britain;
President Mitterrand lobbied for France; the Getty Foundation offered millions
of dollars for the United States; and the Swiss Government tried to block the
paintings' export.
But in 1993 the pressure of the bedroom decided matters in favour of the
birthplace of the baron's fifth wife, Carmen ''Tita" Cervera, a former Miss
Spain 22 years his junior and widow of Tarzan of the Apes actor Lex
Barker. She negotiated with the Spanish government, which paid more than £241
million for the collection, and donated the Villahermosa palace in Madrid, near
the Prado, to house it.
The contract was for 10 years but, after further negotations, it was agreed
that the Villahermosa should became its permanent home. The sale, unsuccessfully
opposed by his children, was the largest transfer of art from one country to
another since Napoleon took his spoils of war back to Paris.
Hans Heinrich Thyssen- Bornemisza de Kaszon was born at Scheveningen, near
The Hague, in 1921, the fourth and youngest child of Heinrich von Thyssen, a
wealthy German industrialist, and Margit Bornemisza, a Hungarian aristocrat. The
family empire, founded on shipbuilding, coal, steel and iron, had been started
by the baron's grandfather, August, who left his fortune to his two sons, Fritz
and Heinrich, in 1926.
The grandfather was not a collector on the scale of his son and grandson but
was an admirer of Rodin, from whom he commissioned a set of six marble
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Willie Nelson song condemns Irag Oil War, and liars. Lyrics.
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Who does Goodyeer mean by "these people"? (Incidentally, reminds me of LHO when he repeatedly spells etc. as ect.) He's talking about Willie Nelson, whois my hero, and has been since I listened to his first album. His songs are poetry. Willie is the essence of the ideal of America and of Texas--the populist, anti-oligarchical ideal of the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That is the ideal that the shareholders of the old Pennsylvania-Texas petroleum establishment are out to destroy. Who are these shareholders? Who inherited the founding stock of these companies? Take the Rockefellers and Mellons who controlled Pennsylvania crude in the late 1800s. Bring them to Texas in 1901 when Spindletop erupted and marry them to the Stillmans (neighbors of King Ranch), the Farishes, the Rices, the Fondrens, Blaffers, Bakersand their moneyed crass but-no-class crowd of Dallasites and Houstonians. Then have the next generation ofmindless gluttons craving aristocratic legitimacy contribute a few millions through their trust funds and foundations, set up by their daddies to protect the family jewels, to Germans like Krupp and Thyssen angry over their daddies' mistreatment by the Paris Peace Conference of 1919. These Germans had made bundles of money off the second war--Kruppsteel factories churning out guns and Thyssen shipping companies, bankrupt by 1934, pumping up Adolph Hitler to get the economy going again by declaring war on the world. In the process, the Krupp and Thyssen heirs made business deals and social ties with the Dulles clan, both Allen Dulles and the Thyssen son living in Bern in 1939 and after. For 1939 was the year the putsch began and profits started to roll in. There is indeed money in war. Follow the money back to petroleum sources in Penn and Texas, then follow those branches into the partnerships and syndicates developed by the shareholders of the original companies--Gulf Oil, Standard Oil of NJ (Humble Oil of Texas). That tells us who Dubya is working for, just like his daddy and granddaddy before him--the Nazi war machine. Linda http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detailcatalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi%20Link The "bank," founded in 1924 by W. Averell Harriman on behalf of Thyssen and his Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. of Holland, was Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York City. According to government documents, it was in reality a clearing house for a number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury and war bonds. The company's activities were administered for Thyssen by a Netherlands-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named Cornelis Lievense, who served as president of UBC. Roland Harriman was chairman and Prescott Bush a managing director. The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals were about to come under official U.S. government scrutiny as Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated.The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals were about to come under official U.S. government scrutiny as Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated. The Walker-Harriman-created German industrial alliance also included
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] ABN Amro Bank Canada v. Krupp Mak Maschinenbau GmbH
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- http://www.interarb.com/clout/clout119.htm Canada: Ontario Court of Justice, General Division (Haley J.) 23 December 1994 ABN Amro Bank Canada v. Krupp Mak Maschinenbau GmbH Published in English; (1994) 21 Ontario Reports(3d) 511; excerpts published in Mealy's International Arbitration Report, May 1995, 11 ABN made a loan to Diesel Inc. (Diesel), a party to a technology licensing agreement with Krupp, which under the terms of the loan was to be assigned to ABN as collateral. Diesel signed a general assignment of its assets to ABN but, although an assignment agreement to which Krupp would be party was prepared, it was never signed. After the loan was made, ABN alleged that the principal owner of Diesel and Krupp had conspired to deceive it and sued Krupp for conspiracy and fraud. In its statement of defence and counterclaim, Krupp, based on an arbitration clause contained in the licensing agreement, sought to stay the proceedings and to have the matter referred to arbitration in Switzerland. The court held that ABN was not bound to arbitrate because it was not a party to the arbitration clause contained in the licensing agreement between Krupp and Diesel and the assignment of Diesel's assets to ABN did not make it a party to that agreement. It was held that, under article 8 MAL, a party to an arbitration agreement did not include a person claiming through or under a party, as ABN was doing in the present case. The court further held that Krupp's request for a stay was either no request at all in the meaning of article 8 MAL or an untimely request, since it was filed with Krupp's first statement on the substance of the dispute which implied acceptance of the jurisdiction of the court. The correct procedure pursuant to article 8 MAL was for Krupp to apply for a stay of court proceedings, after receiving the statement of claim but before submitting a statement of defence. === Full text: http://www.uncitral.org/english/clout/MAL-thesaurus/MAL-full-119-e.pdf All names are in some sort of code, to protect the guilty I assume. Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Flak jackets on for 2004
-Caveat Lector- Mr Bush has one priority for 2004: Get America out of Iraq. Fast. Iraq is breaking up into rebels and collaborators, with a vast heap of innocent bodies turning up each day at the morgues. By Robert Fisk The Independent (UK) - January 2, 2003: Ever since Daniel Pipes - he of the failed American neo-cons - piped up last summer with his plan to install a democratic-minded autocrat (sic) in Iraq, I have been eyeing the Washington crystal ball for further signs of what the designers of this wretched war have in store for the Iraqis whom they liberated for democracy last year. And bingo, not long before Christmas, another of those chilling proposals for New Iraq popped up from the same right-wing cabal. Any predictions for Iraq this year may thus have to be based on the thoughts of Leslie Gelb, a former chairman of the United States Council on Foreign Relations, whose wretched plans for liberated Iraq call for something close to ethnic cleansing. In no less an organ than The New York Times - the same paper which carried a plea last year that Americans should accept that US troops will commit atrocities in Iraq - appeared Mr Gelb's Three State Solution, an astonishing combination of simplicity and ruthlessness. It goes like this. America should create three mini-states in Iraq - Kurds in the north, Sunnis in the centre and Shias in the south - the frontiers of these three entities drawn along ethnic, sectarian lines. The general idea, says Mr Gelb, is to strengthen the Kurds and Shias and weaken the Sunnis. Thus US forces can extricate themselves from the quagmire of the Sunni triangle while the troublesome and domineering Sunnis themselves - with no control over Iraq's northern or southern oil fields - will be in a more moderate frame of mind. True, the chopping up of Iraq might be a messy and dangerous enterprise - tens of thousands of Iraqis, after all, would be thrown out of their homes and pushed across new frontiers - but Washington should, if necessary, impose partition by force. This is the essence of the Gelb plan. Bosnia comes to mind. Or Kosovo. But if it gets us out of Iraq, who's going to complain when we - the famous coalition of the willing - push those recalcitrant, ungrateful Iraqis into the same kind of divide and rule colonial world for which the Americans always used to excoriate the British. It's important not to regard all this as the meandering of Washington think-tanks. Pipes and Gelb and their friends helped to build the foundations of this war, and their ideas are intended to further weaken Iraq as a nation - and thus the Arab world as a whole - while maintaining American military power. Already, the sectarian nature of New Iraq has been established by Washington's proconsul in Baghad, Paul Bremer. His Governing Council is made up of Shias, Sunnis and Kurds in direct proportion to their share of the population. The Shias, who form 60 per cent of the country, expect to take effective power in the Iraqi national elections this year - this, after all, is the only reason why the Shia clergy have not urged their people to join the anti-American insurgency - and the Americans and British understand this all too well. Like so many of those Arab nations created by the French and British amid the wreckage of the Ottoman empire after the First World War, Iraq is to be governed along sectarian lines. So the coming months are not difficult to comprehend. As the insurgency continues - and as President Bush's re-election drama grows nearer - the US administration will be ever more anxious to do two things: to insist that America will stay the course - and to get out as quickly as possible. There will be ever more policemen hired, ever more militias, ever more ex-members of Saddam's old secret service, to act as sandbags between Iraqi guerillas and the Americans. Already - with Iraqi cops taking the most casualties - this is coming about. The Iraqi world is now breaking up into rebels and collaborators, with a vast heap of innocent Iraqi bodies - of children playing beside roadside bombs, children cut down by American gunfire during house raids or protests, busloads of passengers caught in guerilla ambushes, diners blown apart in restaurants - turning up each morning at the Baghdad morgue. Mr Bush, of course, will be looking forward to the Show Trial of the Year to help his election prospects. What, after all, could be more calculated to justify the whole miserable occupation of Iraq than the concrete evidence of Saddam's atrocities? Already, however, this highlight is beginning to look distinctly worrying for the Bush administration, because any fair trial of the old dictator must take into account the massive evidence, much of it still secret in Washington, of the United States' involvement in creating - and supporting - Saddam's regime for the cruellest years of his rule. The shark-like lawyers already vying to defend Saddam are well aware that it was Washington which
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] otec, tidal turbine, mustard diesel Re: Willie Nelson song condemns Irag Oil War
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Vera wrote: I have no serious and especially no well-founded point on that. But new sources of energy would imply at least a huge work in modifying technologies Actually starting with Mr. Diesel, the engines would not have required nor do they require now any changes whatsoever to run on plant-based oil, diesel, or gasoline. If anyone had faith as a grain of mustard seed... I hate to sound mystical, but if something really bad happens, I think that the answer is elsewhere, beyond of us all... ~Vera ...and mustard seed would probably take over as the largest single source of fuel oil, diesel and gasoline in the first year of serious effort in that direction. It is happening as we speak. http://www.google.com/search?q=mustard+diesel One way the Usual Suspects are jockeying for position is patenting genmod mustard seeds. In the 1970's oil companies bought struggling solar panel companies and sat on the technology. There are two elementary schools in the nation's capitol area built in the 1970's, still working well, underground with solar heat collectors on the roof(turf). A small central plant like that might include Minto wheels for its electrical generation. OTEC and tidal turbines would be easy on a larger scale. http://www.google.com/search?q=solar+elementary+school+reston http://www.google.com/search?q=minto+wheel http://www.google.com/search?q=tidal+turbine -Bob Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. /FONTA HREF=http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511;BClick Here!/B/AFONT COLOR=#99 /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/vseplB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Portugal pedophile ring, Nuwaubians alleged pedophile trial, Hawaii law
-Caveat Lector- scroll for news articles Child sexual abuse scandal enrages Portugal - Decades of Abuse: The Portuguese public is reeling after ten prominent media and political figures were charged with sexually abusing children in state care AFP , Lisbon 1/1/04 "Portugal's prime minister on Tuesday expressed confidence in the nation's justice system, one day after 10 people, including top political and TV figures, were charged with sexually abusing minors from a state-run home." http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/01/01/2003085940 State Supreme Court strikes down child sex law 1/1/04 (Honolulu-AP) "The high court voted three-to-two against the law aimed at those accused of repeated sexual crimes against children. The Supreme Court says it denies the accused the constitutional right to due process. The 1997 law made it a single criminal offense to repeatedly attack a child under the age of 14 if the offender lives with the victim or has recurring access to them." http://www.kpua.net/news.php?id=1092 Cult leaders molestation trial could create circus AP - Eatonton, Ga. 1/3/04 ""District Attorney Fred Bright, who is heading the planned state prosecution to follow, has accused York of having sexual contact with as many as 13 girls and boys, including instances of sexual intercourse. York, 58, has maintained hes being unfairly prosecuted because of a vendetta by small-town authorities who dislike the mostly black members of his cult for their unusual practices and a neo-Egyptian compound that includes pyramid-like structures complete with hieroglyphics. The Nuwaubians, who once claimed 5,000 members but now are down to a few hundredAt a Christmas parade in Brunswick, the Nuwaubians said they were a Masons group as they handed out literature and asked spectators about the guilt or innocence of York." http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=28390 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PESTICIDE LINK TO MAD COW DISEASE
-Caveat Lector- SOME SUSPECT PESTICIDE LINK TO MAD COW DISEASE http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/SecondOpinion/secondopinion010525.html NICHOLAS REGUSH, ABC NEWS - What if it turns out that the human form of mad cow disease is triggered by environmental factors - and not by infectious beef products - as some ongoing British research at Cambridge University suggests? What if much of the science to date, focusing on contaminated meat, has been overly simplistic or even dead wrong? The immediate implication would be that we would have to rethink everything already done to fight the disease, both in Britain where it began, in Europe, where it has spread, and in other nations, including the United States, where concerns are mounting about its potential to be unleashed. . . The viewpoint held by most scientists is that an infectious agent likely moved from sheep to cows and gained enough strength in its cross-species jump to ravage the nervous system and cause the bovine brain to appear spongy and rife with holes like Swiss cheese. This brain-destroying mad cow infection was further transmitted, according to this interpretation, via the rendering of carcasses, to meat and bone meal in feed. . . But not according to David Brown, a biochemist at Cambridge University, who counters that there is no conclusive proof that [mad cow disease] caused vCJD. Next week at a scientific conference in Quebec City, he'll discuss some of his most recent research, pointing to a possible environmental explanation of both mad cow disease and vCJD. That conference is all about manganese, a heavy metal, that is essential to life and is part of the daily diet - for example, wheat, rice and tea provide the metal - but numerous studies show that environmental overexposure to it can be dangerous to the nervous system. . . David Brown agrees with the conventional view that the key agent in the disease is a protein called a prion. These prions are thought to keep nerve cells stable. The conventional view holds that prions can somehow become malformed and that's when they become infectious and capable of damaging the brain. The malformed prion, then, according to the conventional view, is the infectious and transmissible agent in mad cow disease and vCJD. The infection is neither a virus, nor a bacterium. Brown parts company here with the conventional view, altogether dismissing the notion of an infectious prion. He told me: I have [published] evidence from my cell culture experiments that shows manganese can change the prion into its abnormal [and dangerous] form. This is especially the case when the supply of copper to the cell is low. If David Brown's research is on a correct path, then scientific and public concerns about infection from beef could eventually be dwarfed by concerns about toxic effects in the environment that cause copper levels to decrease and manganese levels to rise. . . Brown's research has given a boost to the controversial theories of Mark Purdey, a farmer turned amateur scientist who has been challenging the conventional view of mad cow disease and vCJD from the start. He has provided detailed reports to the British government's hearings on mad cow disease and has published several peer-reviewed scientific papers on the subject, including data on how manganese in the environment may play a role in both mad cow disease and vCJD. BBC, MARCH 21, 20001 - The Phillips Inquiry into BSE confirmed that the pesticides could make animals more susceptible to the disease. Not for the first time, Mark Purdey had made a connection that the official scientists had missed. Edward Stourton The man from the Ministry had come with an order for the treatment of Warble Fly - a parasite which lays its eggs under the skin of cattle. Like all beef and dairy farmers in the area, Mark Purdey was told he had to use an organophosphate pesticide on his livestock to eradicate the infestation. But he fought the order in court - and he won. When BSE was identified two years later Mark Purdey noticed that the areas where the disease was emerging more or less correlated with those where the organophosphates had been used against Warble Fly. His conclusion that the pesticide caused BSE turned out to be mistaken. But nearly twenty years later the Phillips Inquiry into BSE confirmed that it could make animals more susceptible to the disease. Not for the first time, Mark Purdey had made a connection that the official scientists had missed. . . http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/europe/1205915.stm www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being
[CTRL] Transfer Tubes
-Caveat Lector- YOUR SON ISN'T DEAD, HE'S JUST IN A TRANSFER TUBE http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Transfer_tubes DISINFOPEDIA - In order to continue to sell an increasingly unpopular Iraqi invasion to the American people, President George W. Bush's administration sweeps the messy parts of war - the grieving families, the flag-draped coffins, the soldiers who have lost limbs - into a far corner of the nation's attic. But today's military doesn't even use the words 'body bags' - a term in common usage during the Vietnam War, when 58,000 Americans died. ... During the 1991 Persian Gulf War, the Pentagon began calling them 'human remains pouches' and it now refers to them as transfer tubes. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Condi and the 9/11 Commission
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Time Magazine December 20, 2003 Condi and the 9/11 Commission By Timothy J. Burger National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice is apparently not keen on going under oath for the Kean 9/11 commission. Poised to convene its first hard-hitting hearings in January, the federal commission investigating the 9/11 attacks continues to be at odds with the White House over access to key information and witnesses. Two government sources tell TIME that National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice is arguing over ground rules for her appearance in part because she does not want to testify under oath or, according to one source, in public. While national security advisers are presidential staff and generally don't have to appear before Congress, the commission argues that its jurisdiction is broader-and it's been requiring fact witnesses in its massive investigation to testify under oath. The exception: it may not seek to swear in President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Bill Clinton or Al Gore in the increasingly likely event they will be asked to speak to the commission. I think that it is in their interest to meet with us, says GOP commission member John Lehman, saying that they should be invited, not subpoenaed, and be allowed to appear behind closed doors. With such high-profile testimony in the offing, it's no wonder the commission chairman, Republican Tom Kean, was telling reporters last week to expect major revelations from the investigative hearings expected to begin in late January. He also suggested that the 9/11 attacks might have been prevented if mid-level government officials at various government agencies had done their jobs. As for senior officials like Rice or her predecessor, Clinton NSA Sandy Berger, and their bosses, Kean said the commission was still studying whether they share the blame. Rice could face tough questioning. One Republican commissioner says a comment by Rice last year-that no one could have predicted that they would try to use a hijacked airplane as a missile - was an unfortunate comment . . . that was, of course, a wrong-footed statement on its face, given that there was years of intelligence about Al Qaeda's interest in airplane attacks. Whether she signs up willingly to testify now is still an open question. But the commission wants to hear from her. Said Democratic commissioner Tim Roemer: The Presidents and Vice Presidents and national security advisers in both administrations should appear. Spokesmen for Rice and the commission had no comment on the talks but a senior Rice aide insisted that Dr. Rice and the White House continue to work amiably with the commission, consistent with the President's desire to make staff available in accordance with his ability to fight the war on terrorism. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,565974,00.html portside (the left side in nautical parlance) is a news, discussion and debate service of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism. It aims to provide varied material of interest to people on the left. Post: mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subscribe : mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Unsubscribe : mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Faq : http://www.portside.org List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address : http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/portside Digest mode : visit Web site Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/portside/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] Kissinger and Argentina: a case study in US support for state terror
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=9005TagID=2 Kissinger and Argentina: a case study in US support for state terror uploaded 03 Jan 2004 By Bill Vann Only days before the US government and media launched their propaganda campaign over the capture of Saddam Hussein, the US State Department was obliged to release a set of 27-year-old, previously classified documents. These documents provide a revealing glimpse into the real attitude of successive US governments toward dictatorships and terror. The documents concern a closed-door meeting in October, 1976 between then-US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and the foreign minister of the Argentine military dictatorship, Admiral Cesar Augusto Guzzetti. The documents were brought to light December 4 by the National Security Archive [http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm], a non-governmental research institute that specializes in obtaining secret US government documents under the Freedom of Information Act and making them available to the public. The principal document is a ?¢???omemorandum of conversation?¢?¢??? referred to in State Department parlance as a ?¢???omencon?¢?¢???that recorded the hitherto secret discussions held between Kissinger and Guzzetti at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City, where the US secretary of state was participating in a United Nations debate on the Middle East. Guzzetti gave Kissinger a progress report on the ?¢???odirty war?¢ that the Argentine military regime was carrying out against the country?¢???Ts workers, students and intellectuals: ?¢???oOur struggle has had very good results during the last four months,?¢ he said. ?¢???oThe terrorist organizations have been dismantled. If this direction continues, by the end of the year the danger will have been set aside.?¢ In point of fact, the savage repression unleashed by the dictatorship was only then reaching its apogee. The mass killings, ?¢???odisappearances?¢ and torture would continue unabated for several more years, claiming the lives of some 30,000 Argentines. The US government was well aware of both the horrors being perpetrated upon the Argentine people and the real nature of ?¢???oterrorism?¢ in that country. An internal State Department report assessing the first six months of the Argentine dictatorship was issued just a week before the Kissinger-Guzzetti meeting. It included the following: ?¢???oThe most spectacular aspect of the counterterrorist drive has been the murderous exploits of the extra-legal, right-wing goon squads. Operating with impunity and usually posing as security officials, the rightwingers are responsible for abducting and/or murdering hundreds of ?¢leftist security risks?¢???T, including political exiles from neighboring countries, foreign nationals, politicians, students, journalists and priests. A few actual terrorists probably have fallen prey to rightist vengeance, but the great majority of the victims have not been guerrillas...There is no doubt that most, if not all, of the right-wing terrorists are police or military personnel who act with the knowledge and/or direction of high-level security and administration officials.?¢ Other reports that were passed on to Kissinger included testimony of American citizens rounded up by the junta on political charges and subjected to hideous torture. One such document cites the case of Gwenda Loken Lopez, an American citizen who was dragged off a bus by security forces in April 1976 after leaving leaflets calling for the release of political prisoners on a park bench. Once back in the US, she recounted her treatment at the hands of her captors from the SIDE, the junta?¢???Ts secret police: ?¢???oI was blindfolded, my hands were tied and I was put up against the
