[CTRL] Pentagon Sex Slaves?
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:39:26 -0500 (CDT) Austin Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: phoenix420 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:58:10 -0400 To: "Kris Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alex Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pentagon Sex Slaves? RICO Used in Wrongful-Termination Suit Mary Alice Robbins (Texas Lawyer) -- Depositions are under way in a suit pending in Fort Worth, Texas' 17th District Court that alleges a Lubbock man was fired by an American defense contractor in Bosnia because he blew the whistle on supervisors and co-workers who bought illegal firearms and engaged in buying and selling underage girls as domestic help and sex slaves. Ben Johnston alleges in Johnston v. DynCorp Inc., et al. that his former employer breached his three-year contract when he was fired without cause last June. DynCorp's lawyer, Irving, Texas, sole practitioner Greg Marks, declines to be interviewed because the corporation has a policy against discussing pending litigation. Marks says he filed a routine answer denying all Johnston's allegations. Johnston worked as a civilian aircraft mechanic for DynCorp, which has a contract with the U.S. Army to maintain military helicopters on the Comanche Base at Tuzla, Bosnia. He accepted the contract with DynCorp in November 1998 and was earning about $120,000 a year, according to the suit. DynCorp, a Delaware corporation, oversees its international operations from its offices in Fort Worth. The suit filed last August by Lubbock lawyer Kevin Glasheen alleges that DynCorp engaged in racketeering activities in violation of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act and that Johnston was terminated because he refused to commit an illegal act. If Johnston had not reported his fellow employees' alleged unlawful activities, he could have been charged under federal law with misprision of a felony, says Glasheen, a shareholder in Fadduol, Glasheen & Valles in Lubbock. Glasheen says the issues addressed in the case involve "leading-edge stuff" in employment law. "This is going to be a case of first impression," he says. Among the allegations in the suit are that the corporation and its employees engaged in peonage and slavery, sexually exploiting children, dealing in obscene material and procuring fraudulent identification documents. The suit alleges that DynCorp employees purchased the passports of women and girls from Serbian Mafia members who brought them into Bosnia from other Eastern European countries. The corporation's employees sometimes resold the passports, alleges Richard Hardy, an associate with Fadduol, Glasheen who also represents Johnston. As alleged in the suit, Johnston told his DynCorp supervisor that co-workers were buying women from the Mafia and was told "to mind his own business." According to the suit, Johnston reported the alleged activities to the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command in March 2000 and his whistle-blowing allegedly led to his termination and forced him and his Bosnian wife, Denisa, to flee the country. Johnston and his wife were forced into protective custody by the CID for fear that they would face retaliation by the Serbian Mafia and DynCorp employees, the suit alleges. A plaintiff who brings a civil RICO conspiracy claim must show that he was injured by an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled last year in Beck v. Prupis that a plaintiff must prove the overt act that injured him was an "act of racketeering." "In our situation, we're claiming tampering with a witness," Glasheen says. "Mr. Johnston was terminated in order to preserve the status quo of DynCorp in Bosnia, the sanctioned buying and selling of women, minor girls, firearms, forged passports and frequent trips to whorehouses," the suit alleges. NOVEL QUESTION Glasheen says the suit raises the question of whether the termination of an employee can be considered obstruction of justice under RICO. It also raises the question of whether reporting fellow workers' alleged illegal activities to law enforcement constitutes refusal to commit an illegal act, he says. Johnston alleges that the corporation's conduct toward him was willful or malicious, entitling him to recover punitive damages. Jonathan Lyons, a DynCorp supervisor in Bosnia, signed the June 9, 2000, letter of discharge that ended Johnston's employment with the corporation. The letter said Johnston "brought discredit to the company and the U.S. Army" while working in Bosnia. In a Feb. 21 deposition, Lyons testified that Johnston was fired because of unverifiable statements he made to the Army CID about fellow employees. "That was my understanding," Lyons testified, according to a transcript of the deposition. Charlene Wheeless, DynCorp's vice president of communications, says the corporation adheres to the strictest of ethical standards. "The idea that we, DynCorp, would violate any law is incredible," Wheeless sa
[CTRL] Manufacturing consent for war
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "Smiley Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Manufacturing consent for war Date: 14 Jul 2001 20:57:00 - On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:53:00 -0500 (CDT) Dave Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: -- ___ i n f o p a l - The Independent Palestinian Information Network ___ Louder Voices of War Manufacturing Consent at Its Peak Tikva Honig-Parnass Between the Lines, Vol 1, No#8, JULY 2001 (Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for subscription info) The starting point for reviewing the events of last month relies upon understanding Sharon's absolute refusal to reach the point of a settlement freeze which would then move to renewing negotiations with the Palestinians, as required by the Tenet / Mitchell documents. In pursuit of this aim, Sharon has activated an elaborate set of tricks, lies, and provocative military operations which seek at paving the way to the implementation of the war plan that Israel and the US have designed for quite some time. [See Peace and War: Israel versus the Palestinians A second Intifada? Anthony Cordesman, CSIS December 2000 and "Peace" With Violence or Transfer, Shraga Elam, BTL December 2000]. This month however, Sharon still continues to pretend to collaborate in the temporary game dictated by the US which is needed for manufacturing the consent to the war plan both locally and abroad. Israeli Demands - A Trap Set for Arafat As stated by the Tenet agreement, three intermediate stages should be implemented on the path towards a full settlements freeze. Namely, a period of 'cease of fire' which is to last seven days as a 'test period', followed by a 'cooling period' of five weeks, which is then followed (presuming the cease-fire continues), by the two sides moving to a stage of 'building a trustful relationship', in which the implementation of the so far neglected Oslo agreements will take place, amongst them, the third Israeli redeployment. Sharon indeed hastily announced at the end of June a 'unilateral cease-fire' which was identified by public opinion in Israel and abroad, as a policy of 'self-restraint' for which he has been awarded endless praise by the Israeli 'Left' and by the US and European community. However, beneath the justification of an 'active cease fire', Sharon failed to keep his promise for even one day. The occupation army has continued its policies of razing and confiscating more and more Palestinian land, enforced the closure policy that strangulates entire Palestinian communities, and resumed the execution of Palestinian activists beneath the pretext of 'active defense'. Regarding this latter issue, the cabinet meeting of 4/7 even decided to 'widen' this policy so as to include "not only those who are directly involved in terror operations but also those who send them". The Israeli media could not wait to adopt the new term for washing the war crime of extra-judicial executions as the "interception of terrorists." The cunning scheme of bringing about the failure of the Tenet and Mitchell agreements is comprised of both declarative and provocative actions. Sharon presents to Arafat demands that he knows Arafat is unable to fulfill and at the same time gives promises that he (Sharon) does not intend to implement. His demands include a '100% cease-fire', the arrest of activists, the collection of all arms "to the last rifle" held by different paramilitary groups of Fateh, Hamas and Islamic Jihad and a decrease in the number of PA security forces (from 60,000 to 30,000 which is the figure permitted by Oslo and which the Israeli government allowed to violate in the hopes that it meant the repression of the opposition) and the complete halt to all incitement, however broadly defined. (Nahum Barne'a, Yediot Ahronot, 2/7). The Israeli media indeed has completely betrayed its duty since the beginning of this Intifada and has become the mouthpiece of Sharon's policy. However, a few mainstream journalists have this month joined the lonely voices of progressive commentators such as Haim Bar'am and Meron Benvenisti and publicized their awareness to the fact that these demands are nothing but a trap that Sharon has set for Arafat. This is how commentator Eli Kamir (Ma'ariv 29/6) describes these demands: "Sharon speaks about the Tenet document and emphasizes that he has accepted the Mitchell report, but in fact both only serve as a basis for carrying out his own plans which are already completed and ready, thus serving as an insurance policy against entering the stage of a settlement freeze." Danny Rubinstein (Ha'aretz 2/7) explains why these demands are unrealistic: "The problem for Arafat and for all the political leadership is that the price for stopping the violence and incitement may be the collapse of their rule [...] Arafat may pay with his head and with the hea
[CTRL] Antidepressant manufacturer admits drug's link to suicide
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "Smiley Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antidepressant manufacturer admits drug's link to suicide Date: 14 Jul 2001 21:01:20 - On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:14:52 -0500 (CDT) Rich Winkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Anti-depressants and suicide: Netdoctor.co.uk - July 10, 2001 GlaxoSmithKline, the British Pharmaceutical giant has acknowledged that the use of prescribed anti-depressants such as Prozac and Seroxat may increase the likelihood of suicide in the initial few weeks of their use. The company has complied with a request from the Medicines Control Agency to issue a warning to doctors and patients with packets of the drug. The move comes after a US court awarded $6.4m compensation to the family of Donald Schnell, who committed suicide after killing his wife, daughter and grandchild, while taking Seroxat. GSK is planning to appeal against the verdict and say the decision to print a warning is unrelated to the case. (Daily Mail) For more information visit www.netdoctor.co.uk Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Diesel Cancer Risk Dwarfs All Other Air Toxics Combined
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "Smiley Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Diesel Cancer Risk Dwarfs All Other Air Toxics Combined Date: 14 Jul 2001 20:57:40 - On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Mark Graffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: From Environmental Defense Thursday, July 12, 2001 NEW YORK -- (12 July, 2001 -- New York) Nationwide, exhaust from diesel engines accounts for 78% of the total added cancer risk in outdoor air from all hazardous air pollutants combined, based on U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) data, according to a new analysis on Environmental Defense's www.scorecard.org website. The analysis is based on a massive EPA study, which provides detailed estimates of the levels of 41 top hazardous air pollutants in every community in the U.S. EPA's previous version did not include information on diesel particulate emissions. "The dominance of diesel in the unhealthiness of our air is a revelation," said David Roe, Environmental Defense senior attorney. "It couldn't be seen before, only because studies weren't trying to look for it." Scorecard.org is able to translate quantities of hazardous air pollutants into cancer risks, both nationally and at the local level. For any locality, see www.scorecard.org/env-releases/hap/community.tcl. "The bad news is that cancer risks from air toxics are much higher than the public has been told before. The good news is that a great deal of the air toxics problem can by addressed by focusing on just this one pollutant. Cutting diesel exhaust has to be priority number one for everyone concerned about the health of our air." Diesel's predominance leads to surprising results. For example, supposedly clean San Francisco shows a risk level of 2,600 additional cancer cases per million, with 90% of the risk coming from diesel emissions. The goal set in the Clean Air Act for air toxics is a maximum of one additional case per million. The air pollution comes both from diesel vehicles on the roads, like trucks and buses, and from offroad equipment like bulldozers and heavy construction machinery. "Offroad diesel equipment is a big part of the problem that most people don't realize, and that is long overdue for emission controls," Roe said. Environmental Defense, a leading national nonprofit organization based in New York, represents more than 300,000 members. Since 1967 we have linked science, economics, and law to create innovative, equitable, and cost-effective solutions to the most urgent environmental problems. www.environmentaldefense.org For more information, contact Allison Cobb Environmental Defense 212-505-2100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.environmentaldefense.org Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] EPA adds 10 sites to Superfund list
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Amelia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] EPA adds 10 sites to Superfund list Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:01:16 -0500 -Caveat Lector- EPA adds 10 sites to Superfund list Six are in New England; 10 more sites could be added = in my employment with Clean Water Action - the initiators of the Clean Water Act - one of the things that i discovered during my research was that the superfund has roughly 70% of its operating costs as purely pencil pushing...30% actually goes to cleaning... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OKLAHOMA CITY "BOMBING"Nexus Magazine
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Amelia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fw: OKLAHOMA CITY "BOMBING"Nexus Magazine Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:50:41 -0500 -Caveat Lector- I have noticed that of late the media and various pundits and politicos express some concern over what lowly, WE, 'spirator theorists, will say concerning an event such as this and the execution of MeVeigh. I have never noticed them doing this before. Why do they care what we say? Maybe the Internet has made us relevant, I don't know. The Waco disaster was launched out of this building. one of the reasons it was targeted. The records for Gulf War Syndrome were archived in this building, including just who made those strange vaccines and what may have potentially been in them. Afterwards, Clinton was able to get the $4 Billion total Anti-Terrorists Act passed in TWO days. It also served to put the brakes on any militia activity, real or alleged, even though McVeigh was a product of the U.S. Military with far less militia connection than regular military. No militia was ever directly tied to the explosion so this was pretty much a fabrication. So cui bono, indeed! Here is yet another theory on what caused the actual explosion which resulted in columns at the rear being more damaged than those nearer the truck and other inconsistencies with the 'fertilizer bomb' explanation. Looks to me like the explanation of a single truck bomb is a form of fertilizer in and of itself. ~Amelia~ == and the premier experts on explosives all had the day off in OKC that day...namely the BATF... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:20:53 +0100 - Original Message - From: Adam Kowalczyk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden -Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: YnrChyldzWyld Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:58:21 -0400 -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Adam Kowalczyk wrote: >capricorn markes what has been traditionally the feminine time of >the year - the winter's stillness being the fertility required for the >life giving initiative borne by summer - the light... according to 99 percent of systems that are based on observations of the world around one's self...namely those that are based on the cyclic nature of things...as the universe is based... according to metaphysics...many monotheistic mystics...the rise and fall of the heartbeat...the expansion and contraction of the universe as described in macrophysics which has analogies in microphysics [as above so below is supported by chaos theory in the form of 'symmetry across scale']...according to all systems that base their 'revelations' on observation, hypothesizing, and testing... duh... >duh? i think you mean "doh!" dontcha? ;) > cause if the belief system is, as you say, based on the patterns of nature then don't you think that supports >June's reasoning and not yours? >i may be wrong but isn't that what wicca is? like, completely? rooted in nature i mean. >99%? i can't find even one. i think you are just a couple of star signs out. i suggest research...i am not a student in a vacuum coming up with my own stuff and there is not a single esoteric student with a modicum of experience that has not agreed with the above... try dane rudhyar...one of the premier astrological writers of all time... my point is that nature religions are the scapegoat...goddess religions...it was all eve's fault and lilith is merely a vampire - these are points that patriarchal thought has made since its inception and they are wrong... the horned one [which has made its appearance in most polytheistic belief systems - this includes wicca] is another 'entity' that has been deliberately confused with the others - the horned one is male but anything derived from observance of the horned one [a representation of the spirit of the buck - free roaming and wild] or of the goddess has been lumped into heretical 'devil' worship... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DEA moves forward with hemp product prohibition [Fascist Laws]
-Caveat Lector- soft americans...they will never revolt... save the trees eat the rich girthfirst Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] help
-Caveat Lector- tried unsubbing for the duration of my vacation but of course msn's tag at the end of my email creates a text that is unreadable by l-soft...gotta love microsoft...can someone manually do that for me? thanks in advance... Original Message Follows From: "L-Soft list server at America Online (1.8d)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "adam kowalczyk Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Output of your job "girthfirst" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:57:12 -0400 > signoff ctrl Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Invalid option - "GET". The valid options are GLobal, LOCal and NETWIDE (minimum abbreviations shown in upper case). Summary of resource utilization --- CPU time: 0.000 sec Overhead CPU: 0.000 sec CPU model: 9000/889 Job origin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] At Least Biotech Terrorists Are Consistent ... They're Always Wrong (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Yardbird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] At Least Biotech Terrorists Are Consistent ... They're Always Wrong (fwd) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:05:16 -0300 -Caveat Lector- Junkscience.com - www.junkscience.com New from JunkScience.com, http://www.junkscience.com At Least the Biotech Terrorists Are Consistent ... They're Always Wrong By Steven Milloy, Fox News June 14, 2001 Oops, they did it again. Biotechnology terrorists started another scare that didn't pan out. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that no evidence could be found that Starlink corn is causing allergic reactions in people. you have much faith in uncle sam...this speaks for itself... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] mistaken false memory positions
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Smart News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] mistaken false memory positions Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:26:09 EDT -Caveat Lector- Dear List, Info is below. Sincerely, Neil Brick The following is from "Memory, Trauma Treatment and the Law" by Brown, Scheflin and Hammond, C 1998, W. W. Norton Pub. Chapter 12, "The False Logic of the False Memory Controversy and the Irrational Element in Scientific Research on Memory" p. 383-384 "...In particular, the following positions asserted by extreme false memory proponents are mistaken: 1. All or most therapists working with childhood sexual abuse believe in the tape-recorder theory of memory. 2. Repressed memory does not exist, or, as Ofsche has stated, "repressed memory is the scientific quackery of the twentieth century." (Ofsche, cited in Loftus and Ketchum, 1994, p. 206) 3. There is only one "normal" model for memory, whether traumatic or nontraumatic. 4. Memories of events are stored the way books are stored on library shelves - as an entire unit. === i tend to think of memory storage as stored more by association - kind of like hyperlinking Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's tracking you?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nro.gov Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] After McVeigh Execution
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd:After McVeigh Execution Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:14:19 -0400 -Caveat Lector- Adam Kowalczyk wrote: > Monday, June 11, 2001 > After McVeigh Execution: > Feel Any Better Now? > RICHARD MORAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Professor of sociology and criminology at Mount Holyoke College, Moran is > currently working on a book about the death penalty. He has testified at > dozens of death penalty sentencing hearings. Moran said today: "McVeigh was > unapologetic because, like many murderers, he viewed his killing as evening > the score. The death penalty is generally not a deterrent, ** This is the stupidest argument for abolishing the death penalty. It is simply NOT TRUE. Any one of us has had a situation where we would have loved to do some asshole in, but didn't. THERE IS NO WAY OF MEASURING HOW MANY KILLINGS WERE PREVENTED BY THE FEAR OF BEING CAUGHT, JAILED, AND PUT TO DEATH!!! == leaving no way to support such either...no way of measuring...so why set a bad example... your words indicate your anger and, as such, i am not surprised you vehemently support killing...only the bad guy of course... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:16:56 -0700 -Caveat Lector- > plant a seed in a person's mind at the time of trauma and it will flourish So what happens if you plant a false memory at the time of a trauma? === BINGO! the same thing of course...i was cautioning against the temptation some might have to use such theory to discount all people's claims that don't jive with one's own belief system... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: YnrChyldzWyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:58:21 -0400 -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Adam Kowalczyk wrote: >capricorn markes what has been traditionally the feminine time of >the year - the winter's stillness being the fertility required for the >life giving initiative borne by summer - the light... according to 99 percent of systems that are based on observations of the world around one's self...namely those that are based on the cyclic nature of things...as the universe is based... according to metaphysics...many monotheistic mystics...the rise and fall of the heartbeat...the expansion and contraction of the universe as described in macrophysics which has analogies in microphysics [as above so below is supported by chaos theory in the form of 'symmetry across scale']...according to all systems that base their 'revelations' on observation, hypothesizing, and testing... duh... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. Timber Program Post Major Losses
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "Smiley Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: U.S. Timber Program Post Major Losses Date: 13 Jun 2001 17:31:16 - On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:25:17 GMT Rick Vazquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jun2001/2001L-06-12-06.html Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd:After McVeigh Execution
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "Smiley Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd:After McVeigh Execution Date: 13 Jun 2001 17:28:38 - On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Institute for Public Accuracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Monday, June 11, 2001 After McVeigh Execution: Feel Any Better Now? RICHARD MORAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor of sociology and criminology at Mount Holyoke College, Moran is currently working on a book about the death penalty. He has testified at dozens of death penalty sentencing hearings. Moran said today: "McVeigh was unapologetic because, like many murderers, he viewed his killing as evening the score. The death penalty is generally not a deterrent, but in the case of a McVeigh, it's almost an encouragement; it has enhanced his status as a martyr. Most murderers believe in an eye for an eye, which is the mindset we adopt when we invoke the death penalty With the talk of the need for 'closure,' vengeance has become a legitimate goal of punishment and revenge a central focus of the debate on capital punishment. This is not just about McVeigh, or about the victims, it's about our values as a society. People were shocked when McVeigh called children he killed in the Oklahoma City bombing 'collateral damage' -- but he got that term from the Gulf War, in which he fought. We trained him to kill." DAVID BRUCK, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.capdefnet.org A lawyer for the Federal Death Penalty Resource Counsel Project, which monitors all federal death penalty cases, Bruck has specialized in capital cases since 1980. He has successfully argued against the death penalty in four cases before the United States Supreme Court. Bruck helped obtain a life sentence for Susan Smith after she was convicted of drowning her two small children. ROSE BRAZ, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.criticalresistance.org Director of Critical Resistance, a national organization opposing the expansion of the prison-industrial complex, Braz said today: "It is ironic that when you have so many people questioning the death penalty -- with innocent people who have spent years on death row being found not guilty, with revelations of inadequate legal representation, with the Republican governor of Illinois placing a moratorium on executions -- the federal government has moved to have its first execution in nearly 40 years. While states usually restrict the death penalty to murder cases, the federal death penalty is very expansive -- it can be used for drug charges and treason." For further information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- is there some conspiracy involved here - other than to induce people to fear getting pierced? Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created
-Caveat Lector- >From: Steve Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [CTRL] New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:45:41 -0700 > >-Caveat Lector- > >Source: University Of Washington (http://www.washington.edu/) > >Date: Posted 6/12/2001 > > >"I Tawt I Taw" A Bunny Wabbit At Disneyland: New Evidence Shows False >Memories Can Be Created > >About one-third of the people who were exposed to a fake print >advertisement that described a visit to Disneyland and how they met and >shook hands with Bugs Bunny later said they remembered or knew the >event happened to them. while suspicious that one third is an accurate microcosm of society at large i am not going to challenge it because i have met a lot of moronic sheep...i would like to offer a word of caution however i am not sure if this post was made as part of a larger theme of debate that may have been going on but i strongly urge all to understand that trauma based programming is real...trauma fragments the personality...plant a seed in a person's mind at the time of trauma and it will flourish...said individual will often never get around to rooting out the weed because to go back and discover the source of such a suggestion requires that the individual face the trauma that he/she has been trying to forget... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:56:21 +0100 -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tony Dickinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:36 PM Subject: [CTRL] Apples in Eden > -Caveat Lector- > > No case to answer in my view, both the logic and extention of such > arguments are extremely poor. > > Actually, I would have thought that it would be the more 'literalist' > branches of creationism that would be upset here. oh no! apple shareholders would be much more upset about the creationists boycotting macs i am sure. === yeah...it's not like we're dealing with something evil like the Temple of Set... ...ahem... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Tony Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Apples in Eden Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:36:51 -0500 -Caveat Lector- No case to answer in my view, both the logic and extention of such arguments are extremely poor. Actually, I would have thought that it would be the more 'literalist' branches of creationism that would be upset here. Not only does Satan as entity not exist outside Christian doctrine (and as such, only a Christian can be a Satanist ?) === pan derives from pagn pan is one culture's representation of the horned one - the goat - capricorn - saturnday capricorn markes what has been traditionally the feminine time of the year - the winter's stillness being the fertility required for the life giving initiative borne by summer - the light... eve is a cabalistic metaphor for the feminine in its essence - the scapeGOAT...i.e. it was all eve's fault... this millenia before the advent of monotheism... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In the Eye
-Caveat Lector- public scrutiny? this, like the traditional presidential bashing and the nailing of celebrities' to trees is designed to stave off the bloodthirst of a suppressed people...it is like teaching a people to fear their bodies...their need for sex can be taxed in the form of a porn industry...sheesh... catch up... Original Message Follows From: Taercel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] In the Eye Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:47:10 -0500 -Caveat Lector- @ Spiked-Online }}>Begin Article1 May 2001 Looking the death penalty in the face by Victor Rortvedt I don't often find myself agreeing with a mass murderer. But I have sympathy with the request by Timothy McVeigh, convicted of the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people on 19 April 1995, that his federal execution on 16 May 2001 be nationally televised. According to McVeigh's lawyer, his client is 'is in favour of public scrutiny of government action - including his own execution'. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om