Re: [CTRL] Another interesting job...
-Caveat Lector- I was just thinking about my reply, and I understand why I didn't seem clear. I usually discuss these types of things with other veterans (most other people don't seem interested), so I tend to assume that the person I'm speaking with has a similar background and experiences. Sorry about that, I'll try to explain more fully... The military is almost always chronically short of doctors. Most ordinary sailors don't usually see one at sick call, they see a nurse or other health care provider (such as an enlisted medic, who has been qualified to treat people without a doctor's supervision). This is very often true in the submarine community, since many doctors don't want to sink in a metal can for six months at a time (i.e., deploy with the submarine). So in answer to your query, no there aren't any people in the military who want that job. Typically, these assignments are offered to Navy doctors first, and if they aren't filled, the Navy goes to the medical community looking for volunteers. That's why I said this seems to be an act of desperation on the Navy's part; they have a job they have to fill, with no takers. The Navy's just trying to get someone to fill the billet, with an offer of special training as an incentive. Unfortunately, I predict this won't work, for the pay reasons I outlined earlier in another post. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Another interesting job...
-Caveat Lector- No, the Flight Surgeon was military, but he was recruited out of medical school for the Flight Surgeon Program. That's just how the military gets doctors. Most of them get picked up coming out of medical school, because the military doesn't seem to attract many people who are willing to serve in return for getting their medical school paid for. In fact, they don't get many doctors, period. Every so often, they go on one of these drives to get more doctors, because so many of the military's doctors leave to find better paying jobs on the outside. Most doctors can command roughly $130,000 a year in private practice. A new doctor in the military is commissioned as a captain (paygrade O-3) and has a gross income of roughly $31,000 a year. That's one reason doctors get into special programs, because they can pick up special pay for having specific skills, and they have an opportunity to do things that they wouldn't have in private practice (like diving/nuclear personnel medicine). A few years ago, (I believe it was in 1993) the Navy had a shortage of Flight Surgeons, so they ran a similar program for them. In that case, the doctors got to go to flight school in return for a commitment of 8 years following flight training. Currently the military is doing the same thing to get dentists (although they don't have any special duty assignments for them). Mostly what this shows is that the military can't get people with advanced skills to stay in. I've been following the trend through reports in the Army Times and the Navy Times, and this is a serious problem throughout the military. I saw it personally when I was in. Mostly, this just reflects how hollow the US Military is now. They're so desperate to get skilled people, they'll take anyone. I recently got an offer from the Marines to attend OCS with no follow-on commitment unless I decided to accept a commission, (suprising, since I have had no military service commitment for over a year!) due to my veteran status and current major in college (computer science). Ten years ago, when I enlisted in the Navy, OCS was for current enlisted members seeking a commission. People with the right degree *might* have been able to get in, but the military preferred to give seats at OCS to currently enlisted sailors. Now, if sailors are any good or have marketable skills, they tend to get out. I certainly did! I see this announcement as sign that once again, Uncle Sam isn't able to find qualified people to do the job. Sad, but not a conspiracy. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Another interesting job...
-Caveat Lector- I was in the Navy a few years ago. Diving Medical Officers are required to be qualified as divers, as well as in submarine operations ( since divers are sometimes released from submarines ). This explains the radiation health qualifications, since many current submarines are nuclear. In my case, I had to see a Flight Surgeon, because of my Flight Status. The Flight Surgeon was always qualified as a pilot, even though I never personally saw one fly. Just a quirk of personnel regulations... DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Air Force to court martial mechanic who has ...
-Caveat Lector- The exact wording of the oath (if I recall correctly ) is: I, [ insert name here } do solemnly swear [or affirm] that I will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and bear truth faith and allegiance to the same, and obey the orders of the President of the United States and the officers appointed over me, so help me God. The Air and Army National Guard also swear to obey the order of the governor of the state in which they enlist; this being inserted after the mention of the President. If you swear the oath, it doesn't matter if it's peacetime or wartime. Simply put, you promised to obey orders. As long as the order is lawful ( it doesn't violate the law ) you're subject to punishment if you refuse to comply. Since the military has the authority to order you to receive vaccination, you don't have any choice. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bounced From list
-Caveat Lector- I've been bounced off the list twice now, on the 29th and the 30th. Funny thing, it's happening at exactly the same time each day, right down to the second! I've also noticed I seen to have a LOT more police officers around me now in public since the 28th. They haven't been threatening or even rude to me, but it seems that suddenly every local department officer in the area has to stop and talk to me. I think this is unusual, since I haven't spoken to an officer in several years, minimum. I've never attracted this much attention before, and certainly not in any public area. I don't know about anyone else, but I take this as a bad omen. Someone must be displeased with the e-mail and newsgroups I frequent. I guess this proves that someone monitors what people do on the Internet. I think I'll be reformatting my hard drive this weekend, just in case. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
