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-Caveat Lector- I WANT THE THEORY!! and what about entropy systems? that machine looks real and I understand it and they are mortor specialists...they make REFRIGERATORS with power as a by-product! killer.b Andrew Hennessey wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Ric says - > > >Could megacorps suppress a free-energy device? In some places, for a > >while, sure. But suppose I'd designed such a device, and a simple > >method for producing it, and I don't want to be suppressed - what do > >I do? How about: I go to Cuba, to North Korea, to Iraq, to Burma, to > >'pariah' states where international cartels don't have a lot of sway. > > The Michael DePalma generator is already being built by a japanese corp > > [i have the theory for this if anyone wants it !! - Andrew] > > The DePalma generator is essentially a simple magnetized flywheel, ie a > magnetized cylindrical conductor rotating at high speed with the help of a > motor. His astonishing claim is that the present verions of the N machine > can generate up to five times more power than it consumes. This, of course, > defies the basic law of the conservation of energy, which says that the > output of energy cannot be more than the input. Most physicists simply > refuse to look at DePalma's findings and dismiss his theories out of hand. > > Yet "proof of principle" for his invention was apparently provided when a > large N machine, dubbed the Sunburst, was built in 1978 in Santa Barbara > California. The Sunburst machine was independently tested by Dr. Robert > Kincheloe, professor emeritus of electrical engineering at Stanford > University. in his 1986 reprot (presented to the Society for Scientific > Exploration, San Francisco, 6/21/86), Kincheloe notd that the drag of the > rotating magnetized gyroscope is only 13 to 20 perscent of a conventional > generator operating at an ideal 100 ppercent effiiency, the DePalma N > machine could produce electricity at around 500 percent efficiency. > > In Kincheloe's cautious summary: "DePalma may have been right in that there > is indeed a situation here wherby energy is being obtained from a previosly > unknow and unexplained source. This is a conclusion that most scientists > and engineers would reject out of hand as being a violation of accepted > laws of physics and if true has incredible implications". > > "The jury is still out on the DePalma N machine," says physicist Harold > Puthoff, a senior fellow at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Austin, > Texas. "It isn't clear where the reported excess energy is coming > from--wheater out of the elecromagnetic field or as the result of some > anomaly associated with rotating bodies in terms of inertia. The DePalma > machine needs to be replicated on a broad scale to see if it actually > works. Though I'm rahter skeptical, I certainly would encourage independent > laboratory experimentation. While such a phenomenon would have seemed to > absolutely go against the law of energy conservation a number of years ago, > we now recognize that the potential for extracting energy out of so called > empty space is in fact a reality". > > Not So Empty Space: > > Puthoff, a PhD. from Stanford University, belives that a new, non polluting > energy source may be acheived by tapping the force random fluctuaions > jostling atomic particles within a vacuum. > Scientists now know that "empty" space seeths with waht are called vacuum > fluctuations: huge amounts of energy that suddently burst forth, jiggling > particles to and fro. Puthoff has developed his own theory, zero point > energy, in an attempt to tap the abundant power found in the vacuum of > space. He and associates in a new company, Jupiter Technologies, may soon > try to manufacture zero-point energy machines. > > DePalma described his N machine and outlined a theory to explain its > workings in a paper, "On the Possibility of Extraction of Electrical Energy > Directly From Space", published in the British science journel, > Speculations in Science and Technology (Sept 1990, Vol 13 No 4). So far, > the scientific establishment either has ignored DePalma's controversial > claims or remains unaware of them. > > Patent *Not* Pending: > > No one has ever obtained a patent for an N machine in the U.S., although in > the San Francisco area alone, there are some 200 patent applications > relating to such devices. The U.S. Patent office automatically denies a > patent to any gizmo which purports to produce more enerty than it consumes, > on the grounds that its personnel are not equipped to evalute such claims. > DePalma is quick to point out that the N machine is not a perpetual motion > machine, that mythical contraption long sought by frustrated inventors. > "The purpetual motion machine is only supposed to run itself. It could > never put out five times more power than is put into it. Perpetual motion > schemes used conventional energy sources, whereas the N machine is a new > way of extracting energy from space".
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-Caveat Lector- Ric says - >Could megacorps suppress a free-energy device? In some places, for a >while, sure. But suppose I'd designed such a device, and a simple >method for producing it, and I don't want to be suppressed - what do >I do? How about: I go to Cuba, to North Korea, to Iraq, to Burma, to >'pariah' states where international cartels don't have a lot of sway. The Michael DePalma generator is already being built by a japanese corp [i have the theory for this if anyone wants it !! - Andrew] The DePalma generator is essentially a simple magnetized flywheel, ie a magnetized cylindrical conductor rotating at high speed with the help of a motor. His astonishing claim is that the present verions of the N machine can generate up to five times more power than it consumes. This, of course, defies the basic law of the conservation of energy, which says that the output of energy cannot be more than the input. Most physicists simply refuse to look at DePalma's findings and dismiss his theories out of hand. Yet "proof of principle" for his invention was apparently provided when a large N machine, dubbed the Sunburst, was built in 1978 in Santa Barbara California. The Sunburst machine was independently tested by Dr. Robert Kincheloe, professor emeritus of electrical engineering at Stanford University. in his 1986 reprot (presented to the Society for Scientific Exploration, San Francisco, 6/21/86), Kincheloe notd that the drag of the rotating magnetized gyroscope is only 13 to 20 perscent of a conventional generator operating at an ideal 100 ppercent effiiency, the DePalma N machine could produce electricity at around 500 percent efficiency. In Kincheloe's cautious summary: "DePalma may have been right in that there is indeed a situation here wherby energy is being obtained from a previosly unknow and unexplained source. This is a conclusion that most scientists and engineers would reject out of hand as being a violation of accepted laws of physics and if true has incredible implications". "The jury is still out on the DePalma N machine," says physicist Harold Puthoff, a senior fellow at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Austin, Texas. "It isn't clear where the reported excess energy is coming from--wheater out of the elecromagnetic field or as the result of some anomaly associated with rotating bodies in terms of inertia. The DePalma machine needs to be replicated on a broad scale to see if it actually works. Though I'm rahter skeptical, I certainly would encourage independent laboratory experimentation. While such a phenomenon would have seemed to absolutely go against the law of energy conservation a number of years ago, we now recognize that the potential for extracting energy out of so called empty space is in fact a reality". Not So Empty Space: Puthoff, a PhD. from Stanford University, belives that a new, non polluting energy source may be acheived by tapping the force random fluctuaions jostling atomic particles within a vacuum. Scientists now know that "empty" space seeths with waht are called vacuum fluctuations: huge amounts of energy that suddently burst forth, jiggling particles to and fro. Puthoff has developed his own theory, zero point energy, in an attempt to tap the abundant power found in the vacuum of space. He and associates in a new company, Jupiter Technologies, may soon try to manufacture zero-point energy machines. DePalma described his N machine and outlined a theory to explain its workings in a paper, "On the Possibility of Extraction of Electrical Energy Directly From Space", published in the British science journel, Speculations in Science and Technology (Sept 1990, Vol 13 No 4). So far, the scientific establishment either has ignored DePalma's controversial claims or remains unaware of them. Patent *Not* Pending: No one has ever obtained a patent for an N machine in the U.S., although in the San Francisco area alone, there are some 200 patent applications relating to such devices. The U.S. Patent office automatically denies a patent to any gizmo which purports to produce more enerty than it consumes, on the grounds that its personnel are not equipped to evalute such claims. DePalma is quick to point out that the N machine is not a perpetual motion machine, that mythical contraption long sought by frustrated inventors. "The purpetual motion machine is only supposed to run itself. It could never put out five times more power than is put into it. Perpetual motion schemes used conventional energy sources, whereas the N machine is a new way of extracting energy from space". Other scientists-inventors who attempted to build and operate free energy machines have been intimidated and harassed by the U.S. government. At least one inventor had his device confiscated by the Defense Department on the grounds that its free energy technology endangered national security interests. This inventor was put under a gag order, so that he could not even tell the press that his
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-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: earthman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The company engineers were said (by Vermillion) to have measured an > output /input ratio of 4.3 / 1. The printed literature, which I received > in a Fedex packet from Vermillion states that the device can put out 500 > watts (maximum) with an input of 34 watts. Ah, delivered by FedEx. That makes it official, then... > For those of you who wonder why the device is not self-sustaining - oral > info from Vermillion is that Minato will in the course of one of the > demonstrations *remove the battery power supply* and let the device > self-run - presumably with a load. Why not just drive cross-continent in a vehicle powered by the free- energy device? Demonstrations are nice; useful applications are convincing. If a free-energy device worked, some greedy capitalists would be making pile of money with it, and the big energy corporations would either have bought into it, or be out of business. Could megacorps suppress a free-energy device? In some places, for a while, sure. But suppose I'd designed such a device, and a simple method for producing it, and I don't want to be suppressed - what do I do? How about: I go to Cuba, to North Korea, to Iraq, to Burma, to 'pariah' states where international cartels don't have a lot of sway. And I pitch a plan to the ruling juntas, a plan whereby they can earn a shitload of hard currency and deal a savage blow to international capitalism at the same time. Would they go for it? Would Saddam, Castro, Kim, like to churn out a cheap product that would have great demand, that would earn a bunch of money, that would cripple the very megacorps that profit from the exploited, and that would free them from the sanctions of the international system? Probably. The U.S. is a good place to pitch bogus inventions - there are always suckers to invest. The U.S. is a good place to pitch real inventions that aren't destabilizing - more profits to be made, eh? But the U.S. is NOT a good place to pitch destabilizing inventions. If you see a demonstration in the U.S. of a device that will obviously obliterate whole industries, it's probably bogus. Much better to take it to where it'll be appreciated, eh? DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A NEW ENERGY MOTOR
-Caveat Lector- From: ".H .H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (ZEROPOINTER) Subject: Minato motor -from trufax Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:13:03 +0800 From: Trevor Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A NEW ENERGY MOTOR Friends: I spoke to Bob Vermillion of Tri-Cosmos Development today, just before he left for the three-day demonstrations of the Minato magnetic motor being held in Mexico City, Mexico on July 8, 9, 10th. Three (3) Minato Motors (MM), covered by US patents 5,594,289 (Jan 14, 1997) and (4,751,486 June 14, 1988), have been brought over from Japan. One was allegedly tested last evening by Grupo Bufete Industrial (supposedly one of the largest power generation construction companies in Mexico and South America). The company engineers were said (by Vermillion) to have measured an output /input ratio of 4.3 / 1. The printed literature, which I received in a Fedex packet from Vermillion states that the device can put out 500 watts (maximum) with an input of 34 watts. For those of you who wonder why the device is not self-sustaining-oral info from Vermillion is that Minato will in the course of one of the demonstrations *remove the battery power supply* and let the device self-run-presumably with a load. The press release makes no bones about the physics-busting character of the MM: "As rotations per minute (rpm's) increase, the electromagnetic consumption of the stator decreases. This phenomenon is in direct conflict with accepted laws of physics and is achieved through the repelling magnetic fields. It operates without heat, noise, or pollution of any kind. It can be produced in size from ultra-small to very large." It is said in the press release that applications from cell phones to laptop computers are under development. Vermillion told me of other parties who were planning to attend the demonstrations, which will be conducted both in public displays and with private party measurements. These include: ENRON, Bechtel, Tejas (a division of Shell Oil Corporation), Fluor Daniels, Kellogg Corp. . He told me that Hal Fox of New Energy News and the Fusion Information Center will be there (I confirmed with Hal that he will be there and will give us a full report.) I considered going myself (I was invited), but I trust Hal Fox to provide a full report-he should be back this weekend. Mr. Kohei Minato will be there-he has already arrived, I understand. He hand carried one of the motors that was already tested yesterday. The wealthy Japanese individual who owns Tri-Cosmos Dev. Co. is Mr. Charly Fujiki. Attendance is by invitation only). The exhibition will be in the Grupo Bufete Industrial building. The invitation says: "Mr. Minato, the inventor, will be present to explain and demonstrate his remarkable breakthrough in technology to government and business leaders in Mexico. He will also discuss the possible use (and) application for various other industries, including a giant generator project, based on the principal mechanism being displayed." Daily demonstrations are from 10:30 am to Noon, 4:30 to 5:30 pm and 6 to 7:30 pm. A block diagram of the motor indicates that it is about 500 kg. An arrow indicates that its 500 watt output goes to a load-schematically indicated as an array of light bulbs. The unit is within a cube 1.2 meters on edge. The diagram shows a solar panel(!!) providing input to the battery that powers the device - I supposes for completeness, but that is obviously silly in view of the claim. Vermillion assured me that this solar panel was not an essential part of the system. One of the two color brochures in the package shows the Minato motor with its charactersitic coils that have their pole faces toward the perimeters of permanent magnet containing wheels that are stacked on an axle. If you looks at the thing quickly, you'd think you were looking at a steam turbine. The 1997 patent #5,594,289 states in its abstract: "On a rotor which is fixed to a rotatable rotating shaft, a plurality of permanent magnets are disposed along the direction of rotation such that the same magnetic pole type therof face outward. In the same way, balancers are disposed on the rotor for balancing rotation of this rotor. Each of the permanent magnets is obliquely arranged with respect to the radial direction line of the rotor. At the outer periphery of the rotor, an electromagnet is disposed facing this rotor, with this electromagnet intermittently energized based on the rotation of the rotor. According to the magnetic rotating apparatus of the present invention, rotational energy can be efficiently obtained from permanent magnets. This is made possible by minimizing as much as possible current supplied to the electromagnets, so that only a required amount of electrical energy is supplied to the electromagnets." It will be interesting, indeed, to learn what comes out of this. Perhaps the famous white rabbit disappearing down a hole, or maybe the birth of a revolution? We shall see. Best wishes, Gene Dr. Eugene F. Mallove --
