Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd) > Since it is mostly the leaves that people smoke, some growers ' top ' the > flowers to send more THC to the plant's leaves. > > I know that this is done, but I am not sure how scientific it really is. this is news to me- mosst growers will not do the above- why would they? no-one smokes the leaves, unless they are new to growing. leaves from the female (apart from the resin encrusted ones around the flowers) and everything from the male plant is best just used for baking! you can get a tumbler (like a stone polishing machine) and make your own hash out of them too. topping the plant will, as nessie mentioned, incresae the amount of flowerheads on the female plant, it will not force thc anywhere. and it is tricky to know whether to top them or not- some strains will be bushy from the word go and not need topping - but some do need it. one plant will only produce a certain amount of thc- if you leave the plant to grow without pruning you will have a lesser amount of fruit- but the fruit will be stronger. if you top it then lots of fruit but less strong. that is a theory anyway- not so sure that it is correct- there is contrasting evidence (that i have seen anyway) about that argument.. so don't flame me if you read something else somewhere! ;) > > J2 > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 10:27:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from >hemp > >fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you >high no matter what > >the growing conditions. Again if you are speaking of truth as an absolute, this is not true. Again there is only one genus and that is cannabis with two distinct species. The plant has been around humankind so much that there are no wild varieties and the plants DNA has been modified by the relationship. The plant grows in male and female separate plants, yes plants may exhibit both sexes also. And even in the wild, pollination may take place from other variants and increase and change the plant dramatically. Also like I have said there ARE age-old growing, pruning and other newer technological innovations that allow one to increase THC production. Hemp and cannibas are the same plant. And yes one may get a Great Dane from a Chihuahua, 'twould be painful and unlikely but not impossible. It's called zoology. Om K PS. It is still legal (it may be unwise) to grow hemp for fiber the laws against are unconstitutional and are held in place by reticentia and "colour of law". There is no legislative jurisdiction for prohibitory possesional statues. Marijuana is a plant given to humankind by Nature's God. There is no legislative jurisdiction concerning a personal relationship with one of nature's plants. Marijuana may be regulated. Marijuana may be excise taxed. Marijuana prohibitory laws are void 'ab initio'. To make alcohol illegal, which takes a manufacturing process, it took a constitutional amendment to the US Constitution. Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- > know that this is done How do you know? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > >If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions have little > effect on the amount of THC. > > The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that > it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will > go up. > The THC is concentrated in the flowers, but also in the leaves to a much. lesser extent. This is why you get hi smoking the leaves. If you put the plants under certain conditions, the leaves will produce more THC too. Since it is mostly the leaves that people smoke, some growers ' top ' the flowers to send more THC to the plant's leaves. I know that this is done, but I am not sure how scientific it really is. J2 http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 7:38:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Stop smoking so much though, you're starting to sound paranoid and nasty. It tends to do that if you smoke too much, but you cannot accept that because your favorite drug is perfect and the more you smoke to excess. the more deranged you become. But it is natural so it must be good. >> The Answer is simple, don't do those things that make you paranoid and otherwise crazy. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- > > How do you know? Did you try? Or are you repeating hearsay? > you'd only get high if you smoke six bales. That wasn't my question. Answer my question. How do you know? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >Increasing the concentration say 50 percent of something a, that exists at less that 0.5 percent, only gives you 0.75 percent. I wasnt talking about increasing the concentration. The concentration is irrelevant. I was talking about increasing the number of flowers, and therefore increasing the total amount of THC in the plant. You dont need to increase the concentration of THC relative to the weight of the flower. All you have to do is increase the percent by weight of the plant that part of the plant in which the THC is concentrated. This is done by increasing the number of flowers per plant. This is grade school mathematics here. Whats your problem? Didnt you go to grade school? OK, lets try a simple analogy. This is like pruning an apple tree to produce more apples. If you dont prune the tree, you get 100 apples per tree. Each apple has 10 seeds. So you get 1000 seeds per tree. If you prune the tree, you get 200 apples per tree. Each apple still has 10 seeds each. But the tree has 2000 seeds. The concentration of seeds per apple has not increased. The number of seeds per tree has increased. Some kinds of apple tree have 5 seeds per apple. Some kinds of apple tee has 15 seeds per apple. But the equation remains the same. Grow twice as many apples per tree and you get twice as many seeds per tree. Simple, huh? NOW, do you get it? >With genetic engineering, one day people will be growing one huge calyx that looks like a cactus :) You dont need genetic engineering to do this. All you have to do is to grow the plants under lights. Start with a two inch clone. Give it four to six weeks of 18 hours a day of light, preferably yellow shifted. Then give it two weeks of 12 hours a day, preferably red shifted. Presto, you have a three inch stem with a single two inch flower. This is how to get the maximum weight of THC per square foot per cycle with the shortest practical cycle. Really, look it up. If you dont want to spend twenty bucks for a book, next time youre at a magazine stand, thumb through an issue of High Times. Youll probably see a couple pictures of these things because this is how professionals do it, the smart ones, anyway. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > On 4 Jul 01, at 7:05, c. wrote: > > > the initial article backing up his spurious claim was not the reference > > article of someone who has been studying "this subject" for over 30 years :) > > The fact is that anyone that can read these books and botany know what I have written > is true. I don't have time to scan the many books and articles I have read. I do not keep > a library of 'pot books' for your convenience online. If you do not have time to scan the > internet and find the information well. th fact is that i haven't even begun to review my references, online or otherwise, to refute your arguments. it hasn't seemed needed so far as you keep changing your argument. you began being very rude and condescending saying that hemp WAS NOT cannabis. and now you are saying that it IS cannabis but you g=couldn't get a smoke out of it. ace. so it is hard to know what your point is. >, why do I need to spend countless time to continue to > prove to someone who has not much discrimination left in my opinion in what way can you possibly mean? and why are you just putting down all the time? you have hardly respoinded to my arguments in detail (i am thinking of your chihuahua turning into a great dane claim). how on earth can someone say something like that and then still be arrogant about their opinions?! . I seriously > question that marijuana is the only drug you use, my guess would by DMT (Ectasy) > which causes permanent brain damage based on research (look it up yourself if you > don't believe me). LOL now, steve, i am not sure, but i was under the impression that there has not been long enough studies done (because it is only recently that it has become so widely used) on the use and effects of ecstacy. in saying that i am not sure why you think that it causes permanent brain damage. you really WILL have to show some sources for this claim as i am sceptical that the work has been done. and it is a strange choice to be accusing me of brain damage from anyway. wouldn't angel dust be more appropriate? and funny that you keep making ad hominems and then accuse me of getting aggresive due to my drug use. LOL > > Steve > > > ANOMALOUS IMAGES > http://www.anomalous-images.com > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archiv
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > >The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped > from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will > not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. > > How do you know? Did you try? Or are you repeating hearsay? you'd only get high if you smoke six bales. > > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing >propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Jul 01, at 7:05, c. wrote: > the initial article backing up his spurious claim was not the reference > article of someone who has been studying "this subject" for over 30 years :) The fact is that anyone that can read these books and botany know what I have written is true. I don't have time to scan the many books and articles I have read. I do not keep a library of 'pot books' for your convenience online. If you do not have time to scan the internet and find the information, why do I need to spend countless time to continue to prove to someone who has not much discrimination left in my opinion. I seriously question that marijuana is the only drug you use, my guess would by DMT (Ectasy) which causes permanent brain damage based on research (look it up yourself if you don't believe me). Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > > With genetic engineering, one day people will be growing one huge calyx that looks > like a cactus :) > the plant is fine the way it is. once you begin fucking with it that way then you will lose something. the last thing this world needs is GM weed. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 22:51, Nessie wrote: > The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that > it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will > go up. Increasing the concentration say 50 percent of something a, that exists at less that 0.5 percent, only gives you 0.75 percent. Canabidiol which inhibits the increased but very small levels of THC in hemp bred and grown for fiber, is also concentrated in the flowers, so increasing the amount of total THC in hemp will not make hemp of this kind into the type known as marijuana (the Kind). This has about 7-15+ percent and who knows how high this will go. With genetic engineering, one day people will be growing one huge calyx that looks like a cactus :) ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > On 3 Jul 01, at 18:47, > > I wrote: > > > > > > Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am > > quite familiar > > > with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana > > in the world is > > > grown. > > c. wrote: > > shyearight the arrogance of some people is gobsmacking. > > You're just jealous of California. If I lived in Great Britain I'd be jealous of California too. > LOL > Stop smoking so much though, you're starting to sound paranoid and nasty. It tends to > do that if you smoke too much you really are getting this all from a second rate FAQ arentcha? , but you cannot accept that because your favorite drug is > perfect who even discussed this aspect of cannabis use? indeed- show me one example of someone going postal from over smoking weed :) >and the more you smoke to excess. the more deranged you become. hmmm.. you really are just making it up as you go along. But it is > natural so it must be good. etc etc > > Steve > > > > > ANOMALOUS IMAGES > http://www.anomalous-images.com > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- time to let steve go. hairsplitter extraordinare. studying it for 30 years LOL the initial article backing up his spurious claim was not the reference article of someone who has been studying "this subject" for over 30 years :) - Original Message - From: "Nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- >The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. How do you know? Did you try? Or are you repeating hearsay? www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ===CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. How do you know? Did you try? Or are you repeating hearsay? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions have little effect on the amount of THC. The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will go up. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Jul 01, at 0:22, Kris Millegan wrote: > But please do not tell > me that with some age-old husbandry, one may notespecially in time, also > produce spoforic THC level plants from the "fiber" seed stock. I agree, but the statement I was referring to was i wrote: >A low thc variety will not >produce high quality hemp no matter how you grow it. you wrote: This statement is true only within the context of growing conditions especially density... The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. Of course no sane individual would do that when there are high THC varieties to start with. And using genetic engineering to make desirable characteristics even more strongly expressed, such as total canabinoid levels and other aromatic compounds, you could probably produce weed so potent that one toke would kill you or at least severely incapacitate the typical individual. The military is probably already working on it. They just spray a mist and everyone says 'Hey dude that music sounds cool, and then just goes to sleep.' It would work great with mind control emf, etc. If as you latter suggest, you breed over many many generations, you might get a really high THC variety if you are lucky and live long enough or are very persistant or skillful. In the mean time, get better seeds. :) Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 8:54:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> This statement is true only within the context of growing conditions >> especially density, with a little loving care and husbandry the THC level >of >> any cannabis strain may be raised or lowered. Cultivation, harvest and >curing >> techniques are more responsible for variant cannibas species THC levels >than >> seed variety. There are just two major species of cannibas, those being >> sativa and indica. It's called botany. > >This is not true. If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions >have little effect on >the amount of THC. Do an little research and you will see that this is >true. > >Or don't, and continue to promote ignorant ideas. > >I have been studying this subject for about 30 years and the truth is out >there if you have >the motivation to get off your butt an find out for yourself. > >Steve Again this may be true within a generation and may continue on for many in nature or in an agriculture, but again any variant strain may be induced to produce more thc. There are some physical techniques that may produce an increase within specific plants during the first generation. Again, there are only two generally recognized species of cannibas, with many variants and crosses. And yes, there are variants that have subpar levels of THC and yes one may produce generations of highly fiberous variants. Especially if that is what one wishes to accomplish. But please do not tell me that with some age-old husbandry, one may notespecially in time, also produce spoforic THC level plants from the "fiber" seed stock. Om K http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 23:39, Kris Millegan wrote: > > This statement is true only within the context of growing conditions > especially density, with a little loving care and husbandry the THC level of > any cannabis strain may be raised or lowered. Cultivation, harvest and curing > techniques are more responsible for variant cannibas species THC levels than > seed variety. There are just two major species of cannibas, those being > sativa and indica. It's called botany. This is not true. If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions have little effect on the amount of THC. Do an little research and you will see that this is true. Or don't, and continue to promote ignorant ideas. I have been studying this subject for about 30 years and the truth is out there if you have the motivation to get off your butt an find out for yourself. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 7:43:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >A low thc variety will not >produce high quality hemp no matter how you grow it. This statement is true only within the context of growing conditions especially density, with a little loving care and husbandry the THC level of any cannabis strain may be raised or lowered. Cultivation, harvest and curing techniques are more responsible for variant cannibas species THC levels than seed variety. There are just two major species of cannibas, those being sativa and indica. It's called botany. Om K http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 12:22, Nessie wrote: > It's the same plant. If you grow it for fiber you call it hemp. If you > grow it for THC you call it marijuana. It is amazing the level of ignorance shown by some on this list. A low thc variety will not produce high quality hemp no matter how you grow it. It has genes selected for hemp cord production, not high THC. End or discussion. There is little difference the rantings of a person who's name begins with S, and some of you burned out braindead potheads. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 18:47, I wrote: > > > > Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am > quite familiar > > with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana > in the world is > > grown. c. wrote: > shyearight the arrogance of some people is gobsmacking. You're just jealous of California. If I lived in Great Britain I'd be jealous of California too. Stop smoking so much though, you're starting to sound paranoid and nasty. It tends to do that if you smoke too much, but you cannot accept that because your favorite drug is perfect and the more you smoke to excess. the more deranged you become. But it is natural so it must be good. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. It's the same plant. If you grow it for fiber you call it hemp. If you grow it for THC you call it marijuana. > A great dane is not the same dog as a chiuaua, even though they are the same species. This is not a valid analogy. The difference between hemp and marijuana is not like the difference between a great dane and a chihuahua. It's more like the difference between a steer and an ox. If you plan to pull a cart with it, you call it an ox. If you plan to butcher it for meat, you call it a steer. Either way, it's a castrated bull. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- dear oh dear- well, at least with a bit of backtracking you managed to get here at last. - Original Message - From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > On 2 Jul 01, at 17:22, c. wrote: > > > > > > Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. > > > > yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others) > > because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and > > not the resin. i can't even be botherred going on about it in more detail as > > it is not pertinent- you *must* see the point i am making. > > You are making my point: on the contrary- i was pointing out that YOU were making MY point. you initially said that hemp was not cannabis- now you are saying that it IS. put it this way- i can select the seeds from my (grown for fruit) plants and grow somew more. usually i would select the young plants that are squat and bushy and ditch the tall gangly ones. but this time i could save the gangly girls and mate em with the gangly boys. over a period of time i will produce `grown for flesh` plants instead of `grown for fruit` plants, the thc content will be low and i can put a sticker on it with the word "hemp" on it. now- you fuck off and try and do the same with two chihuahuas and come back to me with a great dane after 10 generations. hemp IS marijuana IS hemp i take your point about the government's blinkered view about cannabis. i think the naivety of the seperation rationale (although i can see why you may wish to try it) is underlined by what made cannabis illegal in america in the first place- logging companies needing to force out the hemp producing companies. they embarked on a long and diseased campaign to reinvent what people think cannabis is. it worked. i have not got the references to hand- but i can get them if anyone is interested (i am sure such stuff will be in ctrl archive?) so i am kinda apathetic about this seperation thingy. same as i am annoyed about the idea of producing laboratory cannabis to give MS sufferers who find it relieves their pain for the simple reason that i reckon that there is not only one part of the drug that helps them - the idea is that they want to isolate the bit that helps MS and remove the bit that makes someone high but i do not believe that is possible- i think the physical effects and the emotional effects all contribute to the relief. if the political will is there then seperation becomes futile. as does chemically prodiuced thc. (which will fail) >Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. > Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. you are mixing and matching your names. hemp is cannabis is marijuana. out of all of them cannabis is probably the most technically acceptable- but all are the same thing. just different names for the one plant. >They are *different varieties* as you have > admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. you are so great at pointing out people's stupidity by putting them down- yet you have consistently shown yourself to be ill informed. you should have taken the warning on rudeness before you made another fool out of yourself. putting people down when you are actually talking shite never makes you look good. > A great > dane is not the same dog as a chiuaua, even though they are the same species. see above steve- you insult me with this analogy. > > Confusing hemp with the drug marijuana is exactly one of the methods the US > government uses to make people believe that legalizing hemp production will lead to > more marijuana use. no it isn't. don't put it on them- they know it is the same thing. trying to seperate cannabis into two plants was down to campaigners like yourself for political reasons (noble as they may be) to try and educate the public as to the almost miraculous and myriad uses that cannabis in all it's forms has. > > Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am quite familiar > with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana in the world is > grown. shyearight the arrogance of some people is gobsmacking. >(Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California.) And yes I > do know what happens when you smoke too much. :~| no you don't or you wouldn't be frowning- you would be sleeping :) smoke some more. > > Steve > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxing
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 9:41:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << (Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California >> WRONG! I don't hate California, just the liberals that infest it. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Jul 01, at 17:22, c. wrote: > > > Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. > > yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others) > because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and > not the resin. i can't even be botherred going on about it in more detail as > it is not pertinent- you *must* see the point i am making. You are making my point: Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. A great dane is not the same dog as a chiuaua, even though they are the same species. Confusing hemp with the drug marijuana is exactly one of the methods the US government uses to make people believe that legalizing hemp production will lead to more marijuana use. Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am quite familiar with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana in the world is grown. (Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California.) And yes I do know what happens when you smoke too much. :~| Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >a. the mouse >b. Brain dead. Could you please be a little more specific and articulate? What the heck are you talking about? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/2/01 12:00:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << let me get this straight bill. you were "watching" this braindead channel and are repeating it's braindead opinions as yours? wowee, conservatism is broad church indeed. >> You got me on that one. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- let me get this straight bill. you were "watching" this braindead channel and are repeating it's braindead opinions as yours? wowee, conservatism is broad church indeed. From: "Bill Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 7/2/01 10:30:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << What makes ABC "liberal" and what, exactly, do you mean by the term > "liberal" anyway? >> > > a. the mouse > > b. Brain dead. > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/2/01 10:30:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What makes ABC "liberal" and what, exactly, do you mean by the term "liberal" anyway? >> a. the mouse b. Brain dead. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- My old boss used to say "I am liberal in meeting the needs of the people; however, I am conservative in spending their money". Now that line got him elected for 30 years total. He always believed in the Golden Rulel - Screw them before they screw you. He was a Lawyer, nobody is perfect. Today a Liberal in Clinton - how many millions of dollars a year does he make to hog unto himself with his fat pit wife. Now though, is this a liberal or just a plain thief with no morals, no scruptles no nothing. I once ran for public office and I won - and I was a woman...but then I also ran once and wrote a speech for a joke, that the local ColumbusTabloid reported picked up and used" I started out with "My Loyal Subjects" and I lost this one but still ended up in the winner's circle in a City Hall Mayor's Office for 4 terms. So it is said we are judged by every word that proceedeth out of our mouths. So Joshua 2, you are still an asshole; June, you are still a fat assked old bat; and c - I don't know what the hell you are, and frankly my dear, I do not give a rats ass. The End. Saba Always in the Winner's Circle http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >This was reported years ago Says you. Show us the citation. >on that very liberal news network, ABC. What makes ABC "liberal" and what, exactly, do you mean by the term "liberal" anyway? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > Hemp is not the drug marijuana. yes it is steve. > Any idiot knows that. no need to be rude- especially as i am not any idiot - because i am sure about what i am talking about. there are different varieties (strains) of cannabis and depending on how it is developed over time it has certain properties. take for instance the plant i am growing just now - it is "early bud" variety. a strain developed in canada (i think) and it is 80% cannabis indica and 20% cannabis sativa. it is a hybrid of the two varieties. now, why should it be such a stretch of your imagination to accept that maybe they are all the same plant but different varieties have different characteristics? i mean, steve, you are not all that familiar with this subject- so i do not understand why you are so quick to patronise disagreement of your stance. >You've been smoking too much. ah, yes, the evidence that you know very little, first hand, about the subject you are condescending me about. cool. if you knew anything at all you might realise that the comment above is ludicrous-espeically in the context of his particular conversation. smoking hash over a long period does not inhibit the senses and brain functions in the way poeple who haven't tried it think it might. not gonna make a big speech about this. but the point is that you show your presumptive ignorance with such comments. > Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others) because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and not the resin. i can't even be botherred going on about it in more detail as it is not pertinent- you *must* see the point i am making. You can smoke hemp all you want > and all you'll get is a headache. yes, yes, steve, but this is just so much second hand information. do some field work! ;) http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- i appreciate the concern. (no sarcasm intended j.) i am in no danger from being busted i don't think. the uk is in the midst of changing the way they administer the laws regarding cannabis. even keith halliwell (our own drug czar) has recently stated that he acknowledges that cannabis is not a "gateway" drug- one that leads to heroin et al. in lambeth within the last month police are now only cautioning for possession. and generally there is a mood of live and let live growing- specifically about cannabis. buti know about the horrors of the drug war in the land-of-the-free (copyright1776) andif i do get busted, well, whatever, they aren't going to sieze my bank account and, depending on the circumstances, a blind eye may be shown. if not- then i get a small fine- or an official warning (seeing as how i have no record). but right enough j. people should be careful- however tenuous the trail from the email to the home address is! - Original Message - From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > "c." wrote: > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > sorry steve but you are badly informed > > > > hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly > > informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so. > > i have been growing for over 10 years. > > what first hand experience have you? > > > > I strongly recommend that you don't make a clear ststement like this > in " public." > > J2 > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon > > (Independent UK) (fwd) > > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > > > On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote: > > > > > > > marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different > > > > emphasis- fruit or flesh. > > > > > > > > > > Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our > > governments would > > > like you to believe that they are the same however. Read on... > > > > > > http://zimafoods.ca/diff.html > > > > > > HEMP VS. MARIJUANA > > > Well now that you know how good the seed is, also how many uses there > > are for the > > > plant, what really is the difference between hemp > > > and marijuana? > > > Marijuana is a tobacco-like substance produced by drying the leaves and > > flowering > > > parts, or "buds", of the Cannabis plant. These particular > > > parts of the Cannabis plant are selected for illicit use due to the > > concentration of > > > tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in those particular areas of the > > > plant. THC is the chemical present in marijuana that produces the drug > > user's > > > psychoactive, or "high", effect. Most wild > > > marijuana found growing in Canada and the United States has a THC > > concentration of > > > less 0.5 percent, compared to > > > Colombian or Mexican varieties with a THC content ranging normally between > > 3 to 7 > > > percent. An increase has been noted by > > > law enforcement in recent years of large scale domestic production of > > marijuana > > > containing much higher THC values, > > > sometimes with a THC content as high as 25 percent. > > > Marijuana is normally used in its dry form by rolling the same into > > cigarettes, or "joints", > > > and smoked. A wide variety of other > > > smoking utensils, primarily in the form of pipes, are also used. > > > Hemp on the other hand is a non-psychoactive cannabis variety. Originally > > there was > > > no "marijuana" per say, just fields of hemp > > > grown for fibre, oils and livestock feed as well as food for humans. When > > the slaves of > > > the early 1800's began to realize that by > > > smoking the flowering tops of the hemp plant they achieved a measure of > > relief from > > > the horrible lives they were living as slaves! Thus began > > > the association between the "evil weed marijuana" and hemp. > > It was also the > > > Mexicans who were smoking the weed before > > > battle, the song
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 7:14:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Where'd you hear this? It's absurd. Hash isn't cooked. The process doesn't involve any heat whatsoever. >> This was reported years ago on that very liberal news network, ABC. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK)(fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 6:31:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Just to confuse the issue... Did you know that canvas comes from the word cannabis and was a huge part of the old hemp/ maritime industry >> So when the sailors got bored they smoked their sails? Or where the officers the only ones allowed to do that. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "c." wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > sorry steve but you are badly informed > > hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly > informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so. > i have been growing for over 10 years. > what first hand experience have you? > I strongly recommend that you don't make a clear ststement like this in " public." J2 > - Original Message - > From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:37 AM > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon > (Independent UK) (fwd) > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote: > > > > > marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different > > > emphasis- fruit or flesh. > > > > > > > Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our > governments would > > like you to believe that they are the same however. Read on... > > > > http://zimafoods.ca/diff.html > > > > HEMP VS. MARIJUANA > > Well now that you know how good the seed is, also how many uses there > are for the > > plant, what really is the difference between hemp > > and marijuana? > > Marijuana is a tobacco-like substance produced by drying the leaves and > flowering > > parts, or "buds", of the Cannabis plant. These particular > > parts of the Cannabis plant are selected for illicit use due to the > concentration of > > tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in those particular areas of the > > plant. THC is the chemical present in marijuana that produces the drug > user's > > psychoactive, or "high", effect. Most wild > > marijuana found growing in Canada and the United States has a THC > concentration of > > less 0.5 percent, compared to > > Colombian or Mexican varieties with a THC content ranging normally between > 3 to 7 > > percent. An increase has been noted by > > law enforcement in recent years of large scale domestic production of > marijuana > > containing much higher THC values, > > sometimes with a THC content as high as 25 percent. > > Marijuana is normally used in its dry form by rolling the same into > cigarettes, or "joints", > > and smoked. A wide variety of other > > smoking utensils, primarily in the form of pipes, are also used. > > Hemp on the other hand is a non-psychoactive cannabis variety. Originally > there was > > no "marijuana" per say, just fields of hemp > > grown for fibre, oils and livestock feed as well as food for humans. When > the slaves of > > the early 1800's began to realize that by > > smoking the flowering tops of the hemp plant they achieved a measure of > relief from > > the horrible lives they were living as slaves! Thus began > > the association between the "evil weed marijuana" and hemp. > It was also the > > Mexicans who were smoking the weed before > > battle, the song "La Cucaracha" being about a soldier who > refused to march > > without some marijuana to smoke. Although > > there are similarities, the differences are greater by far. > > > > Click here to see the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA 1911 entry on hemp. > > > > Although many people think hemp and marijuana are the same it would be > best to > > describe them as cousins. Hemp is meant as an industrial > > crop. Much like flax or cotton. Hemp can be used for many things, just > check out the > > uses page and see. Hemp is a wonder plant! If you leave > > aside the 40,000 + products that can be made from hemp the mere fact that > it has > > survived the "US War on drugs" never ceases top amaze > > me. People though don't realize that countries unaffected by US foreign > policy didn't > > stop growing hemp at all. Countries like Poland, Russia, > > India and China to just name a few. Fortunately for us we can now go to > these peoples > > and regain the information we require to create our own > > hemp industry right here in North America. > > So why does the US have it's War on Drugs while Canada uses hemp to create > a new > > industry within it's borders? There seems to be a > > definite difference in thinking between Health Canada's way of dealing > with hemp and > > the US's DEA. Why does Health Canada allow hemp to > > be grown all across Canada while just a few kilometers south of the border >
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Hemp is not the drug marijuana. Any idiot knows that. You've been smoking too much. Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. You can smoke hemp all you want and all you'll get is a headache. Steve On 2 Jul 01, at 7:45, c. wrote: > hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly > informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so. > i have been growing for over 10 years. > what first hand experience have you? ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- LOL - Original Message - From: "Bill Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 7/1/01 4:25:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << What are you talking about? >> > > I'm talking about the people in the third world countries who cook up hash > and have the mixture explode in their faces. > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- sorry steve but you are badly informed hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so. i have been growing for over 10 years. what first hand experience have you? - Original Message - From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote: > > > marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different > > emphasis- fruit or flesh. > > > > Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our governments would > like you to believe that they are the same however. Read on... > > http://zimafoods.ca/diff.html > > HEMP VS. MARIJUANA > Well now that you know how good the seed is, also how many uses there are for the > plant, what really is the difference between hemp > and marijuana? > Marijuana is a tobacco-like substance produced by drying the leaves and flowering > parts, or "buds", of the Cannabis plant. These particular > parts of the Cannabis plant are selected for illicit use due to the concentration of > tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in those particular areas of the > plant. THC is the chemical present in marijuana that produces the drug user's > psychoactive, or "high", effect. Most wild > marijuana found growing in Canada and the United States has a THC concentration of > less 0.5 percent, compared to > Colombian or Mexican varieties with a THC content ranging normally between 3 to 7 > percent. An increase has been noted by > law enforcement in recent years of large scale domestic production of marijuana > containing much higher THC values, > sometimes with a THC content as high as 25 percent. > Marijuana is normally used in its dry form by rolling the same into cigarettes, or "joints", > and smoked. A wide variety of other > smoking utensils, primarily in the form of pipes, are also used. > Hemp on the other hand is a non-psychoactive cannabis variety. Originally there was > no "marijuana" per say, just fields of hemp > grown for fibre, oils and livestock feed as well as food for humans. When the slaves of > the early 1800's began to realize that by > smoking the flowering tops of the hemp plant they achieved a measure of relief from > the horrible lives they were living as slaves! Thus began > the association between the "evil weed marijuana" and hemp. It was also the > Mexicans who were smoking the weed before > battle, the song "La Cucaracha" being about a soldier who refused to march > without some marijuana to smoke. Although > there are similarities, the differences are greater by far. > > Click here to see the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA 1911 entry on hemp. > > Although many people think hemp and marijuana are the same it would be best to > describe them as cousins. Hemp is meant as an industrial > crop. Much like flax or cotton. Hemp can be used for many things, just check out the > uses page and see. Hemp is a wonder plant! If you leave > aside the 40,000 + products that can be made from hemp the mere fact that it has > survived the "US War on drugs" never ceases top amaze > me. People though don't realize that countries unaffected by US foreign policy didn't > stop growing hemp at all. Countries like Poland, Russia, > India and China to just name a few. Fortunately for us we can now go to these peoples > and regain the information we require to create our own > hemp industry right here in North America. > So why does the US have it's War on Drugs while Canada uses hemp to create a new > industry within it's borders? There seems to be a > definite difference in thinking between Health Canada's way of dealing with hemp and > the US's DEA. Why does Health Canada allow hemp to > be grown all across Canada while just a few kilometers south of the border the DEA is > actively spraying wild hemp in order to eradicate all > hemp from within it's borders? > That of course is not a one two three answer but simply put Health Canada is a branch > of the Government regulating health issues, getting it's > budget to do just that. The DEA under which the hemp issue is big business, $500 > million US last year alone given to the organization to > eradicate wild hemp and that says nothing of the marijuana enforcement dollars. So in > short, by regulating the growth of the hemp industry in > Canada the government is creating jobs for the farmers and for the manufa
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >I'm talking about the people in the third world countries who cook up hash and have the mixture explode in their faces. Where'd you hear this? It's absurd. Hash isn't cooked. The process doesn't involve any heat whatsoever. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote: > marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different > emphasis- fruit or flesh. > Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our governments would like you to believe that they are the same however. Read on... http://zimafoods.ca/diff.html HEMP VS. MARIJUANA Well now that you know how good the seed is, also how many uses there are for the plant, what really is the difference between hemp and marijuana? Marijuana is a tobacco-like substance produced by drying the leaves and flowering parts, or "buds", of the Cannabis plant. These particular parts of the Cannabis plant are selected for illicit use due to the concentration of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in those particular areas of the plant. THC is the chemical present in marijuana that produces the drug user's psychoactive, or "high", effect. Most wild marijuana found growing in Canada and the United States has a THC concentration of less 0.5 percent, compared to Colombian or Mexican varieties with a THC content ranging normally between 3 to 7 percent. An increase has been noted by law enforcement in recent years of large scale domestic production of marijuana containing much higher THC values, sometimes with a THC content as high as 25 percent. Marijuana is normally used in its dry form by rolling the same into cigarettes, or "joints", and smoked. A wide variety of other smoking utensils, primarily in the form of pipes, are also used. Hemp on the other hand is a non-psychoactive cannabis variety. Originally there was no "marijuana" per say, just fields of hemp grown for fibre, oils and livestock feed as well as food for humans. When the slaves of the early 1800's began to realize that by smoking the flowering tops of the hemp plant they achieved a measure of relief from the horrible lives they were living as slaves! Thus began the association between the "evil weed marijuana" and hemp. It was also the Mexicans who were smoking the weed before battle, the song "La Cucaracha" being about a soldier who refused to march without some marijuana to smoke. Although there are similarities, the differences are greater by far. Click here to see the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA 1911 entry on hemp. Although many people think hemp and marijuana are the same it would be best to describe them as cousins. Hemp is meant as an industrial crop. Much like flax or cotton. Hemp can be used for many things, just check out the uses page and see. Hemp is a wonder plant! If you leave aside the 40,000 + products that can be made from hemp the mere fact that it has survived the "US War on drugs" never ceases top amaze me. People though don't realize that countries unaffected by US foreign policy didn't stop growing hemp at all. Countries like Poland, Russia, India and China to just name a few. Fortunately for us we can now go to these peoples and regain the information we require to create our own hemp industry right here in North America. So why does the US have it's War on Drugs while Canada uses hemp to create a new industry within it's borders? There seems to be a definite difference in thinking between Health Canada's way of dealing with hemp and the US's DEA. Why does Health Canada allow hemp to be grown all across Canada while just a few kilometers south of the border the DEA is actively spraying wild hemp in order to eradicate all hemp from within it's borders? That of course is not a one two three answer but simply put Health Canada is a branch of the Government regulating health issues, getting it's budget to do just that. The DEA under which the hemp issue is big business, $500 million US last year alone given to the organization to eradicate wild hemp and that says nothing of the marijuana enforcement dollars. So in short, by regulating the growth of the hemp industry in Canada the government is creating jobs for the farmers and for the manufacturing sector. If it were legalized in the states, the paramilitary like DEA would lose a lot of it's funding and also it would lose face. The Government there has worked long and hard, since 1937, to convince it's peoples that hemp is bad, why change now and lose all of the lies it's created! and http://www.azhemp.org/Package/Legal/legal.html HEMP vs. MARIJUANA The word "hemp" is English for a number of varieties of the cannabis plant, particularly the varieties like "industrial hemp" that were bred over time for industrial uses such as fuel, fiber, paper, seed, food, oil, etc. The term "marijuana" is of Spanish derivation, and was primarily used to describe varieties of cannabis that were more commonly bred over time for medicinal and recreational purposes, like cannabis indica , and certain strains of cannabis sativa. In fact, when all forms of hemp were made illegal in the early part of the last century, it was used in the majority of the prescription drugs then sold in Ameri
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK)(fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Steve wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > On 1 Jul 01, at 9:41, Nessie wrote: > > > Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one of the products made from hemp. > > There are others. Hemp is the crop. It is a variety of canabis. Hemp and Marajuana plants are bothe canabis. One is grown for the fiber. One is grown for its sticky leaves and flowers. The resin for Hash is collected on leather aprons then scraped off and mixed with filler. > > Hashish is NOT made from hemp. Hemp contains very little THC. Hashish is made > from cannibis >From canabis staiva, a variety of the Hemp / canabis plant. > (marijuana). Hemp is not the same as marijuana. If you've ever tried to smoke rope, you know this is true. > > Steve Just to confuse the issue... Did you know that canvas comes from the word cannabis and was a huge part of the old hemp/ maritime industry? J2 http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 4:25:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What are you talking about? >> I'm talking about the people in the third world countries who cook up hash and have the mixture explode in their faces. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >Hemp is not the same as marijuana. It's the same plant. Some strains are grown for their stems, some for their flowers. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >Then, these are the bricks which explode in the faces of the workers and do serious damage to their bodies? What are you talking about? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different emphasis- fruit or flesh. - Original Message - From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) > -Caveat Lector- > > On 1 Jul 01, at 9:41, Nessie wrote: > > > Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one lof the products made from hemp. > > There are others. > > Hashish is NOT made from hemp. Hemp contains very little THC. Hashish is made > from cannibis (marijuana). Hemp is not the same as marijuana. > > Steve > > > ANOMALOUS IMAGES > http://www.anomalous-images.com > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Jul 01, at 9:41, Nessie wrote: > Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one lof the products made from hemp. > There are others. Hashish is NOT made from hemp. Hemp contains very little THC. Hashish is made from cannibis (marijuana). Hemp is not the same as marijuana. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK)(fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Yardbird wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon An amusing piece of cluelessness! Fields of hash! I remember hearing of children wearing leather aprons running through the marijuana fields in Michoacan, collecting resin to be scraped off later. A hash field? -- ´´ Mark McHugh http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 9:40:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Incorrect. It is not distilled. The ripe flowers are shaken over a large cloth. The dust that settles is collected and pressed into bricks or, in Lebanon, into shoe shaped loaves. >> Then, these are the bricks which explode in the faces of the workers and do serious damage to their bodies? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >Hashish is not a crop. Correct. Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one lof the products made from hemp. There are others. >It is distilled from weed. Incorrect. It is not distilled. The ripe flowers are shaken over a large cloth. The dust that settles is collected and pressed into bricks or, in Lebanon, into shoe shaped loaves. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 8:16:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon >> Hashish is not a crop. It is distilled from weed. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon Why farmers in Hermel have more faith in 'Gold' than government By Robert Fisk 01 July 2001 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=81153 At first, it looks like a cornfield. But step a few metres into the corn and the stooks turn into little bright-green trees with spiky leaves, all swaying in the breeze up the narrow mountain valley. When my guide started gesticulating towards another, smaller field, I pleaded with him not to point. There are gunmen aplenty in these hills in the same dark Mercedes they used in the civil war but the man laughed. "You're perfectly safe with me here," he said. That's when I realised this was his hashish field. "You know what we are doing?" he asked. "It's a kind of challenge from us to the Lebanese government, a challenge from an impoverished people. The Beirut government boasted back in 1994 that it had eradicated the drug fields of Lebanon, burning and poisoning the thousands of acres of hashish and the smaller though more lethal dunums of poppies that produced Lebanon's heroin exports. The Americans and the UN's anti-drugs units clapped their hands. We were even invited to watch the army burn the fields. But today "Lebanese gold" the finest hashish grown in the country is back, albeit in comparatively small quantities. "This is not 1 per cent of what we used to grow in the civil war," the Hermel landowner insisted, a point he rather spoiled by inviting us to see a larger field a few miles down the road. The air is clear up here, the midday sky pale-blue against the hot grey mountains, a tributary of the Orontes river, green and cold, irrigating the hashish. "What can we do?" the man asks, opening his hands. "We were promised aid from the government in return for destroying our fields, new agricultural projects, new crops to take the place of hashish. But my four sons and three daughters, some of them married, are all living in my home because they have no money for a house of their own. We live off the only one of my sons who has a job and he brings home just 500,000 Lebanese pounds (243) a month." Which is true. The dealers make the money; the growers do the work. Nor does his assessment meet with any surprise in the office of the United Nations Development Project chief technical adviser down the Bekaa Valley in Baalbek. Mohamed Ferjani hands me a document he sent to his superiors in 1994, the year the Lebanese announced the end of illicit crop cultivation and the start of a programme to encourage alternative crops. "The absence of development efforts and international community support will mean the return of illicit crops and border traffic," Ferjani had presciently written. His voice rises as he explains his frustration. "There was no regional development plan and the government's programme for the area was launched with high expectation on the part of the beneficiaries [the farmers] but with less than 6 per cent of the estimated required funds." After the civil war, the Hermel men at first believed in their new role as legal farmers, cultivating tomatoes, tobacco, wheat and water melons. A Hermel schoolteacher and his wife told me of the outcome of broken promises: "First the government gave us a ton of seed potatoes and then, without warning, it became half a ton," the teacher said. "Then many of the families who applied for licences to grow tobacco were refused permission. I don't know why." On its near-desert plateau, Hermel got a bad name. It became known unfairly, according to its 83-year-old mukhtar (town leader) as a drugs town and, because of the location of nearby Hizbollah guerrilla training camps, as a town of "terrorists" and gunmen. Old Haj Asaad bin Daibis-Jouheri, smoking a cigarette from a holder in his thin wiry hands, tried to explain his town's story. "We used to survive on wheat, barley, chickpea growing, and we were simple people. Then there came schools and new clothes and people needed money. People became more reliant on earning. But we got no real help. People really go hungry here. And now the media have started a war against this region." Nor are things going to get better. "At the time of the government's new programme, Lebanon was an exporter of vegetables and fruit, especially to the Gulf and Iraq," Mr Ferjani says. "Then came the Second [1991] Gulf War and Iraq was sanctioned and the Turks, Egyptians and others started exporting to the Gulf. And the people here grew much poorer." You only have to drive round the Hermel area to understand what this means. There are patches of wheat and a few watermelon farms. But much of the landscape I passed through was sand and rock and acres of rubbish, the ground, even along the banks of the Orontes, blossoming with old plastic bags and rusting car parts. Up in the hills, the gunmen follow all visitors "they have no ideology," Mr Ferjani warned and I suspect they are working for men in Am