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Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD - your reality chec

1999-02-24 Thread Sno0wl

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On 23 Feb 99, , Scott wrote:

 Summary - I think there are two things wrong with the hypothesis that I'm
 seeing throughout your anti-wood thread:
1.   You think we're all empty skulled idiots, hopelessly waiting for
 someone to fill our vacant craniums and point us in the 'right' direction
 (pun intended).
2.   You also think that you're intelligent enough to wrap your
anti-semitic
 views in a cloak of horror, and pass them off as conspiracies.

And just to add: I think it's a little disturbing that this is what they're talking 
about at
Mensa. You'd think they'd know better.




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Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD - your reality check's bouncing...

1999-02-23 Thread Scott Bourassa

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Why is it that the only time the list ever hears from me, is when I'm asking
for comments, or shooting some one down for something that just seems dumb.

To the person who started this thread, and those who continued to build upon it
(especially the anti-semitic commentaries) - give yer head a shake!  Hollywood,
IMHO, can be accused of a great many things, but setting up the *world* for
subservancy to a Jewish super-power is not one of them!  Do you really have
that little confidence in humanity?  What you're suggesting is ludicrous, not
because the 'Jews' are behind it (who, I might add, are as capable as any other
sub-culture), but because you firmly believe that people would flock to movie
theaters in the droves that they obviously do, for the sole purpose of being
subverted!  Why would a proud Texan pay $8.00 to sit through a movie that, for
the next two hours is going to berate him and his upbringing?  And more
interestingly, if I'm not from Texas, have never known anyone from Texas, and
see a great number of Hollywood films per year, why do I not think badly of
Texans?

I come from a relatively right-wing city of 900,000 mostly normal, intelligent
people (and aside from the population of the city, I think that description
could be applied to most of the cities you know).  One of our local public
theaters, run by local gov't, once hired as their CEO of the theater, an
extremely liberal, gay rights activist.  Almost instantly, every musical,
balet, or Shakespearian play, became a soap box for preaching tolerance and
acceptance of gays in our schools, churches, supermarkets, etc..  Personally,
I've got a couple of friends who are gay, and the idea didn't bother me the way
it seemed to affect others.  But then - I don't go to a lot of plays either.
As I'm sure you can guess, people reacted to the change after only a couple of
plays, the press eventually coloured it bad, and the theater's managing
director found himself unable to sustain much of an audience after about a
year.  Capitalism prevailed, he's been released of his duties, the theater's
showing themes more relevant to the local modern culture, and people are going
to plays again.

Summary - I think there are two things wrong with the hypothesis that I'm
seeing throughout your anti-wood thread:
   1.   You think we're all empty skulled idiots, hopelessly waiting for
someone to fill our vacant craniums and point us in the 'right' direction (pun
intended).
   2.   You also think that you're intelligent enough to wrap your anti-semitic
views in a cloak of horror, and pass them off as conspiracies.

Well, at the risk of sounding a little nasty: I'm not an idiot, and although
I'm an athiest who disagrees with the very idea of organized religions, I find
most of this anti-semetic thread offensive and absurd.

Sgt Bee...

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Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-22 Thread Herbert Hershel Henderson

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YOU CAN SKIP ALL THIS STUFF IF YOU'VE READ IT ALREADY AND JUST READ WHAT I HAD TO 
SAY...IT JUST MAKES THE THINGS EASIER..
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On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:25:24   Kris Millegan wrote:
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Would you feel any different about my original question if I told you
that my ten year study of the U.S. film industry has confirmed that
(among other things) for the last 30 to 40 years at least, Hollywood
films have consistently portrayed Latinos, Christians,
Italian-Americans, Asians, Arabs and Whites from the South (including
those poor Texans) as the villains (or at least in a negative or
stereotypical manner), while simultaneously promoting politically
liberal points of view? Aside from the irony in that, some of you may
rationalize that these movie patterns of bias are merely coincidental.

Latinos


The consistency of the record, however, suggests otherwise. My study of
thousands of movies and movie reviews indicates that Hollywood,
throughout its nearly 90-year history, has specifically portrayed
LATINOS in films as mean, macho, scraggly, violent, cynical, racist,
tire slashers, drug traffickers, kidnappers, gang members, prison
inmates or in despair. Despite a couple of recent exceptions to this
general pattern, Hollywood films have traditionally contained very few
positive portrayals of Latinos. If the objective is to hold back or
create a disadvantage for Latinos in our society, I suppose there is no
better way than the historically proven method of using powerful mass
communications media to poison people's minds toward one or more
designated populations. By the way, the words and phrases used to
describe these biased movie portrayals, mostly come right out of the
reviews relied on for this research.

Arabs


My studies also show that ARABS have been portrayed in Hollywood films
as evil, barbaric, oversexed, depraved, villainous, shifty, possessed,
hostile, fanatical, criminal, mystical, wicked and crazed. Of course,
that's not enough to satisfy Hollywood, so Arabs have also been
portrayed as thieves, shady, kidnappers, enemies, mysterious, murderers,
assassins, terrorists, blood-thirsty, saboteurs, extremists,
cult-ridden, curse-stricken, oily, shifty-eyed, violent, and idiots.
Seldom have Hollywood movies contained favorable portrayals of Arabs or
Arab-Americans. Thus, millions of viewers of Hollywood movies worldwide
are being burdened with Hollywood's perspective of what Arabs and
Arab-Americans are like, which we all have to admit is prejudiced and
extremely unbalanced. In all fairness, this record suggests that some
Hollywood movies are being used as a form of private propaganda (paid
for by the unsuspecting moviegoers themselves), and in this instance,
the propaganda could have consequences for Mid-East and world peace.

Asians


My studies also reveal that Hollywood's portrayals of ASIANS AND
ASIAN-AMERICANS consistently present them as enemies, cold, calculating,
ruthless, aggressive, criminals, slave owners and conspiring businessmen
(some of whom, of course, bought a couple of the major Hollywood studios
a few years ago). Evenso, just as with Latinos and Arabs, it is also
accurate to report that Hollywood has seldom portrayed Asians and Asian
Americans in a positive light.

Politics


From a POLITICAL perspective, it's quite apparent that another of these
consistent patterns of Hollywood movie bias comes in the form of
negative portrayals of characters and positions representing
conservative points of view, and positive presentations of characters
and positions representing a liberal perspective. While Hollywood movie
villains often hold political views of the extreme right, seldom does
Hollywood portray its movie villains as political liberals.

Religion


Another blatant Hollywood movie bias occurs with respect to RELIGION.
Most are just overlooked, but some, including Christianity are
vigorously attacked in films. In recent decades, Hollywood has portrayed
Christians as disturbed, phony, sexually rigid, devil worshipping
cultists, manipulative, hypocritical, murder suspects, talking to God,
neurotic, fanatical, slick hucksters, Bible quoting Nazis, outlaws,
psychotic, fake spiritualists, Catholic schoolboys running amok,
dishonest, Bible pushers, Adam  Eve as pawns in a game between God and
Satan, unscrupulous, dumb, deranged preachers, an unbalanced nun accused
of killing her newborn infant, obsessed, mentally unbalanced,
destructive, foul mouthed, fraudulent and miracle fabricators. That
pretty much describes your Christian neighbors, doesn't it? Of course,
I'm not even a religious person, but regardless of how you feel about
religion and Christianity in particular, the use of a powerful
communications medium by anyone to consistently portray Christians or
any other religious characters in this manner is a national disgrace.

South


Still another little recognized Hollywood movie bias regularly appears
in the form of negative or stereotypical portrayals of WHITES 

Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-22 Thread Jim Condit Jr.

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Regarding the below post and all the posts on Hollywood --- did everyone
miss the Arts and Entertainment special aired about late summer 1998 (name
of the special escapes me) in which it was admitted and bragged about that
Jews founded, built, and run Hollywood. It is correct to say that there is
no conspiracy --- it's out in the open. Liberal Jews don't need to get
together and conspire any more than I need to get together and conspire
which fellow pro-lifers on how to picket an abortion chamber or call in to a
talk show on the subject of abortion. Most of us pro-lifers are Catholics or
fundamentalist Christians (no, Virginia, orthodox Jews are not pro-life in
the same sense, but support abortion in the first trimester under certain
conditions) -- we were raised the same with the same teachings -- part of
the same social organism, if you will (borrowing Lloyd Miller's terminology
here). Likewise, liberal Jews congregating in Hollywood are also of the same
mental background and upbringing -- no need to conspire at all. I'm sorry I
don't remember the name of that A  E special, but it's available to be
bought -- is might even have 'Jewish' or 'Jew' in the title of that A  E
special. Now, comment on why certain groups have been portrayed certain ways
by the Jews that run Hollywood:

1. Latinos - primarily Roman Catholic, the primary target of organized Jewry
(in traditional form, not in the current apostate form following John Paul
II, which some of us Roman Catholics call "The Counterfiet Church."
2. Arabs -- too obvious, Arabs have to be discredited since any
brutalization against them must be able to be justified in order to prevent
them from retaking some or all of the land that was taken from them with
much violence and forced exile in 1948.
3.Asians -- no comment -- no insight.
4. Religion - better to have a backboneless population if you're in the
minority by a long shot. Also, a secret or not so secret antipathy to
traditional Christianity as expressed clearly in the Talmud.
5. South - the south represents the stronghold of those promote white racial
integrity which Jews generally abhor. In fact, as Alan Dershowitz has
recently proven, the top Jews can advocate racial intermixing for everyone
else, while in the next breath advocate racial separatism for themselves
(see Alan Derwshowitz's book, The Vanishing American Jew). Lest I be accused
of being a racist,  let me add that it's not sin to marry across racial
lines, but neither do many of us believe that God made a mistake when he
made the distinct races, which we must now correct by interbreeding. Each
race has a right, within limits, to be justly proud of the good things in
its heritage.
6. Politics -- same as religion -- better to have a muddleheaded liberal
population than a principle-oriented conservative population if you're in
the minority.
7. Whites, Blacks, Italian Americans, etc. -- it has been the habit of the
Jewish controlled media to inculcate guilt-complexes in all other groups
while holding themselves sacrosanct in their propaganda. Notice that NONE of
the bashes on religion in the movies - as far as I know -- ever uses a Rabbi
gone awry as the subject of its "bash" of religion. Always the wayward,
failed priest, or the failed, hypocritical Protestant minister.

Sorry to file such a negative report on the Jews running Hollywood -- but
time and space are precious and this should "cut to the chase" for those
trying to understand Hollywood. Jim Condit Jr.

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 YOU CAN SKIP ALL THIS STUFF IF YOU'VE READ IT ALREADY AND JUST
 READ WHAT I HAD TO SAY...IT JUST MAKES THE THINGS EASIER..
 --

 On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:25:24   Kris Millegan wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-

 Would you feel any different about my original question if I told you
 that my ten year study of the U.S. film industry has confirmed that
 (among other things) for the last 30 to 40 years at least, Hollywood
 films have consistently portrayed Latinos, Christians,
 Italian-Americans, Asians, Arabs and Whites from the South (including
 those poor Texans) as the villains (or at least in a negative or
 stereotypical manner), while simultaneously promoting politically
 liberal points of view? Aside from the irony in that, some of you may
 rationalize that these movie patterns of bias are merely coincidental.
 
 Latinos
 
 
 The consistency of the record, however, suggests otherwise. My study of
 thousands of movies and movie reviews indicates that Hollywood,
 throughout its nearly 90-year history, has specifically portrayed
 LATINOS in films as mean, macho, scraggly, violent, cynical, racist,
 tire slashers, drug traffickers, kidnappers, gang members, prison
 inmates o

Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-22 Thread nurev

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"Jim Condit Jr." wrote:

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 Regarding the below post and all the posts on Hollywood --- did everyone
 miss the Arts and Entertainment special aired about late summer 1998 (name
 of the special escapes me) in which it was admitted and bragged about that
 Jews founded, built, and run Hollywood. It is correct to say that there is
 no conspiracy --- it's out in the open.

Since when is it necessary to conspire to run the American film
industry?
So what if Jews run Hollywood? Catholics run the Vatican. Wasps run
the
American banking industry, the arms industry, the tobacco industry,
the
Presidency, etc...

What's your point? You don't like their Liberalism? Start your own
film
business. Otherwise just go on about your business gloating about
exploding gyn clinics.

Joshua2

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[CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-20 Thread Kris Millegan

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Geronimo


I saw a movie a few years ago, in 1993 actually. It was a major studio
release by Columbia, and featured one of my favorite actors, Robert
Duvall. The movie was Geronimo--An American Legend. Maybe some of you
saw the film.

Texans


Duvall played a Western character, and in a part of the movie not
significantly related to the main theme, he had a run-in with a group of
Texans. After the Texans rode off into the sunset, the Duvall character
announced to his associates that "Texans are the lowest form of human
life". Now, I ask you, was that funny or offensive?
Different Character


What if in a different movie a character said "African-Americans are the
lowest form of human life"? Would that be funny or offensive? What about
another movie in which the character said "Latinos are the lowest form
of human life"? Funny or offensive? And, what if the movie character
said "Jews are the lowest form of human life"? Funny or offensive?

Acceptable


Would it be any more or less acceptable if the people being descri bed
as the "lowest form of human life" were women? Christians? Arabs ?
Italian-Americans? Asians? Gays? Lesbians? or Whites from the South ? Do
your feelings differ depending on which group is being defamed? Should
your feelings differ?

Southerners


Would your feelings differ if you knew that White folks from Texas and
the American South are among a half dozen or so distinct populations in
our diverse society that have been consistently portrayed in Hollywood
movies in a negative or stereotypical manner for the last several
decades?

Significant Medium


Would your feelings differ if you realized that contrary to what we're
often led to believe by the Hollywood establishment, feature films are
much more than mere entertainment. No less an authority than our own
United States Supreme Court has actually declared that the motion
picture is a significant medium for the communication of ideas, and on
that basis has extended the broad protections of the constitutional
right of free speech to feature films?

Influence


Would your feelings differ if you realized that throughout the history
of human civiliz ation, ideas (no matter how comm unicat ed) have always
and will always be impor tant factors in influe ncing human thinking and
behav ior? And, would your feelings differ if you realized that millions
of the people who are regula rly expos ed to the ideas comm unicat ed
through film are young , not very sophis ticated, and in some cases, not
well educa ted or even menta lly balan ced. After all, no one stands at
the theatre door trying to deter mine who can effecti vely separate
reality from fantasy in movies, do they?

Repeated Viewings


If persons like any of those I've just described, repeatedly saw a
particular group consistently portrayed in a negative or stereotypical
manner in a significant number of Hollywood movies over the years (which
is exactly what happens in real life), what are the chances that such
portrayals would influence the attitudes and behavior of some of those
moviegoers with respect to the people portrayed? Probably, pretty good,
wouldn't you say?

Richard Donner


The truth is that all movies communicate messages of one sort or
another. One of our problems is that these messages have been
consistently biased. Some filmmakers readily admit they sneak messages
into their films. The Producer/Director of the Lethal Weapon series,
Richard Donner, told Daily Variety just this past month that he tries to
deliver a message in almost every picture, and that it's best if you
sneak it in while getting a laugh. In his previous Lethal Weapon movie,
the villain was a white racist from South Africa. That got a laugh, I'm
sure. But his latest message in Lethal Weapon 4 is even more hilarious.
It's a blatant attack on the National Rifle Association. Movies are much
more than mere entertainment.

Consistent Portrayals


Would you feel any different about my original question if I told you
that my ten year study of the U.S. film industry has confirmed that
(among other things) for the last 30 to 40 years at least, Hollywood
films have consistently portrayed Latinos, Christians,
Italian-Americans, Asians, Arabs and Whites from the South (including
those poor Texans) as the villains (or at least in a negative or
stereotypical manner), while simultaneously promoting politically
liberal points of view? Aside from the irony in that, some of you may
rationalize that these movie patterns of bias are merely coincidental.

Latinos


The consistency of the record, however, suggests otherwise. My study of
thousands of 

Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-20 Thread Sno0wl

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On 20 Feb 99, , Kris wrote:

 My studies also reveal that Hollywood's portrayals of ASIANS AND
 ASIAN-AMERICANS consistently present them as enemies, cold, calculating,
 ruthless, aggressive, criminals, slave owners and conspiring businessmen
 (some of whom, of course, bought a couple of the major Hollywood studios a
 few years ago). Evenso, just as with Latinos and Arabs, it is also
 accurate to report that Hollywood has seldom portrayed Asians and Asian
 Americans in a positive light

This doesn't begin to account for Charlie Chan and Bruce Lee or "The Joy Luck Club".
And I guess this guy never saw "Fried Green Tomatoes" or that movie with Laura Dern--
was it called "Rose"?--or anything by Carson McCullers. Or "Midnight in the Garden of
Good and Evil."




sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-20 Thread Sno0wl

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On 20 Feb 99, , Kris wrote:

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 from:
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 A HREF="http://www.homevideo.net/FIRM/lowest.htm"FIRM -  What's Really Going
 on in Hollywood/A
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 WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

 
 A Recent Speech by John W. Cones

 



 Geronimo


 I saw a movie a few years ago, in 1993 actually. It was a major studio
 release by Columbia, and featured one of my favorite actors, Robert
 Duvall. The movie was Geronimo--An American Legend. Maybe some of you
 saw the film.


Just for the record, Walt Disney was notoriously and rabidly anti-Semitic, pro-Nazi,
paid all his workers peon wages, never drew as much as a mouse, but betrayed the
man who created Mickey Mouse for him (who had spent most of his life working for the
Disney Studio)--fired everyone in the Studio when his animators finally held a strike 
for
a living wage, yet managed to be fabulously successful until the day of his death. Now
how did he manage that?

It might, furthermore, help to remember that movies became successful during the
Depression, when what the public wanted was escape fantasies of love, romance, and
riches. American immigrants flocked to the movies, for a nickle,  craving an image of
an American elite that they could use as models. Their greatest dream was
assimilation into "American" culture. Most moviegoers of that era wanted to escape
the cultures they had come from--in some instances, fled--and longed to become
beautiful, rich, successful, Americans with fabulous lovers and expensive
wardrobes.Most of the "role models" of this early era represented the dominant Anglo-
Saxon WASP Christian culture...and it seems to me that this image has persisted
throughout most of movie historyuntil quite recently.

It is only in the last two decades that movies have become especially violent. In the
early Dick Tracy films, the villain was laid flat by a single punch. One shot from a 
gun
actually killed someone. It is only very recently that violence has escalated into 
sheer
pyrotechnics and heroes survive attacks that would wipe out several battalions. I don't
see this tendency toward violence as liberal. I see it as feeding something sick that
the culture is both asking for and that the Hollywood establishment is supplying and
cultivating. And I can't imagine how all this violence could possibly be conceived of 
as
an anti-gun message. It desensitizes the public towards both unspeakable ugliness
and insane violence. How does this jibe with humanistic liberalism  (which the right-
wing hates for its willingness to overlook minor flaws, forgive, and offer second
chances) ?

There may be some truths in this article. But there's a lot of nonsense, too.

People who are interested in and study world cinema can always find and see fine
examples of movies from all over the world, representing every culture that makes
movies. . Guess why they aren't shown in your local cinemax. They don't attract big
audiences. And they don't make money (or sell popcorn). They are shown continually,
and if they interest you, you can usually find a place where you can go to see them.



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Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-20 Thread Liz Schumacher

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and the current"superman"(on TV) is half chinese, and you are right, the list
goes on and on,hector elizondo in "chicago hope" is the administrator,,good
old "cheech" is still going strong in Nash Bridges,one of the best selling
books around is The Rape of Nanking, by a chinese author,--look , for a
country that still has a white-bread majority, we do pretty good.
quote me some statistics from another country-oh i forgot--no other nation
lets as many "minorities" in as we do--whoops!  forgot that lil' point!

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