CS: Target-shooting fast
From: "Tony Jeeves", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, Fair point, I did tend to mollycoddle my guns. Who needs an MP5 with the rate of fire you managed to achieve? Tony -- In case anyone wants to try that course of fire, it is thus: Start with hands above shoulders, loaded gun in open table drawer in front of you, spare magazines in table drawer as well. On the start signal, pick up the gun and engage four IPSC targets with two shots each in the order (when shot L-R) 3 yards, 7 yards, 7 yards, and 3 yards, and then reengage (targets are a yard apart from each other when viewed face on). Mandatory reload required between first and last shot fired. I mention it because it is the only course of fire I can remember the time from shooting with that P226. I did it in 4.9, leaving the reload to right before the last target. Hits weren't too good, a couple of Ds, several Cs. In case anyone think that is bragging Jeff Dixon (i.e. Grand Master Jeff Dixon, in top 20 IPSC shooters in the world) did it right after me in 4.1 seconds, with all A-zone hits. I remember it because we were the only ones to do it in under 5 seconds. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-statutory right of entry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This is not a definitive list but here are the ones I know for sure who have > a statutory right of entry. > > police > customs and Excise > VAT man (as above?) > electricy board > gas board > water board > Fire authority > the queen > BT The thing is that all of the above may have a right of entry but surely only if they have reason, eg gas or electric emergency's. I'm not sure that BT would have a right of entry as I can't think why they would need it. In the absence of an actual emergency, wouldn't all of these people also need a warrant to get in? Possibly the Queen may have an absolute right of entry? You can't just enter a property to check that someone isn't breaking the Law so I don't think the TV licensing people would be able to get in to check if you were watching the telly. Jonathan Laws Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Misc-"Washington Hunting Laws"
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Washington Hunting Laws" > > 1. Any person with a valid Washington State hunting license may > harvest attorneys. > > 2. Taking of attorneys with traps or deadfalls is permitted. The use > of currency as bait is prohibited. > > 3. Killing of attorneys with a vehicle is prohibited. If accidentally > struck, remove dead attorney to roadside and proceed to nearest car > wash. > > 4. It is unlawful to chase, herd, or harvest attorneys from a snow > machine, helicopter, or aircraft. > > 5. It shall be unlawful to shout "whiplash," "ambulance," or "free > Perrier" for the purpose of trapping attorneys. > > 6. It shall be unlawful to hunt attorneys within 100 yards of BMW > dealerships. > > 7. It shall be unlawful to use cocaine, young boys, $100 bills, > prostitutes, or vehicle accidents to attract attorneys. > > 8. It shall be unlawful to hunt attorneys within 200 yards of > courtrooms, law libraries, whorehouses, health spas, gay bars, > ambulances, or hospitals. > > 9. If an attorney is elected to government office, it shall be a > felony to hunt, trap, or possess it. > > 10. Stuffed or mounted attorneys must have a state health department > inspection for AIDS, rabies, and vermin. > > 11. It shall be illegal for a hunter to disguise himself as a > reporter, drug dealer, pimp, female legal clerk, sheep, accident > victim, book Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-statutory right of entry
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >The police do not have a right of entry, they have to have >a warrant (except under some very limited circumstances). Steve, I like the following quote about this; "I now deal with a species of law known as the common law. Common law is law that comes from the common people, vers, legislation, which, comes from the "experts." It took a long time to learn the true nature and office of governments; to discover and secure the principles commonly indicated by such terms as 'Magna Carta,' the 'Bill of Rights,' 'Habeas Corpus,' and the 'Right of trial by jury;' to found the family home, with its laws of social order, regulating the rights and duties of each member of it, so that the music at the domestic hearth might flow on without discord; the household gods so securely planted that 'Though the wind and the rain might enter, the king could not'. It took a long time to learn that war was a foolish and cruel method of settling international differences as compared with arbitration; to learn that piracy was less profitable than a liberal commerce; that unpaid labour was not as good as well-requited toil; that a splenetic old woman, falling into trances and shrieking prophecies, was a fit subject for the asylum rather than to be burned as a witch. It took a long, long time after the art of printing had been perfected before we learned the priceless value, the sovereign dignity and usefulness of a free press. But these lessons have been taught and learned; taught for the most part by the prophets of our race, men living in advance of their age, and understood only by the succeeding generations. But you have the inheritance".
CS: Pol-statutory right of entry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know I posed this question but don't I remember that H&SE inspectors also have a right of entry under certain conditions. I also remember being told that some police officers are registered as H&SE inspectors just to facilitate this but this could be total moonshine. Perhaps some of our police contributors could comment. Kenneth Pantling Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-US voters approve checks on private sales at gun shows
To cut a long story short it appears as though voters in Oregon have approved a ballot measure to require private sellers of guns to transfer them through licensed dealers at gun shows by a margin of 60-40%, rural areas voting no, urban areas voting yes for the most part. Similar pattern in Colorado, but split 70-30% in favour. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-BS Article on Beretta
From: "Tony Jeeves", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am I missing something? Voluble praise for the Beretta 92 followed by statements like "20,000 rounds before the frame started to look dubious" or of a SIG "another 1,000 rds (total 13,000) and it will definitely be scrap metal" My beloved old Browning GP (pause while he wipes away a tear as he remembers the hand-in) had between 20,000 and 25,000 rds put through it by me by that dreadful time and, apart from a few 'dings' in the finish worked and looked like new. Also, it was used (albeit only slightly) when I bought it. I can count the number of jams and misfires on one hand and these were usually through faulty reloading. Now that is a good reliable gun and it absolutely loved hot surplus ammo. Tony -- I forgot to mention the way I shoot guns. I.e. very, very quickly. The only time I can remember off-hand was one course of fire in which I had to fire 16 shots with a mandatory reload. I did that in 4.9 seconds (no misses!) Combine that with the amount of dry-firing that I do and the frame wears out a lot faster than it would for your average copper or soldier. The problem with my SIG is that I have worn out the hole in the frame where the trigger bar spring fits, as I have must have cycled the thing well into six figures. Bearing in mind that US tanks in WW2 only fired 22 rounds on average and frame durability for the pistol is an academic issue. I'm sure .45s do last longer than Berettas, my point is that the DoD made the best choice out of the 9mms available. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-BS Article on Beretta
From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must admit I could get my .45 to jam if I wanted to, the black powder loads I made for photographic purposes never fed reliably but I never had the thing jam using properly made ammunition so thereby lies the tale. nick -- .45s do jam more often than 9mm Berettas, though not as often as the article makes out. I had a Beretta 92F, serial# D40546Z that I put 20,000 rounds through before the frame started to look a bit dubious so I sold it before it disintegrated for good. I had two malfunctions, both when the firing pin broke (probably due to excessive dry firing). I've never known any 1911 go that long without jamming. A lot of people criticise the US military for adopting the Beretta, but if I had to choose a 9mm pistol in 1983, I would have picked the Beretta. Early Glocks had problems (I had one, serial# AB646). A lot of people say the SIG-Sauer P226 is better, but it's not, frankly, but it's smaller and fits my hand better so I prefer it. But they do wear out faster. I have a P226 in Belgium (serial# U506182) that has had 12,000 rounds through it and the frame is definitely on it's last legs. Another 1,000 rounds and it will be scrap metal. I actually owned one of the XM9 SIG-Sauer test pistols that Saco Defense submitted to the DoD for testing. I bought it off an ex-Saco Defense employee. Can't remember the serial number off-hand but it was something like U85976, written in stenciled italics on the frame. Compared to a Beretta 92S of the same vintage it was definitely inferior. The Beretta 92 had been around since 1975, whereas the P226 was the P220 with a double-stack mag and it had a lot of bugs in the design at that point. (BTW, there is a mistake in the book Das Grosse SIG-Buch on the XM9 entry, the gun has matt black sights, not the dot and bar contrast sights). The only P226s that actually go back before serial# U10 are the couple of dozen XM9 pistols. The US military definitely made the right decision, the rest is all gun magazine nonsense and myth. The only mistake really is that NATO insists on 9mm FMJ which is ballistically anemic, but the Beretta was the best choice. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-statutory right of entry
From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is not a definitive list but here are the ones I know for sure who have a statutory right of entry. police customs and Excise VAT man (as above?) electricy board gas board water board Fire authority the queen BT others I'm not sure about would be Court or town bailiffs Environmental Health dept social services (mental health act) Nick Why me? -- The police do not have a right of entry, they have to have a warrant (except under some very limited circumstances). Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Misc-Artists Rifles
From: "Tom Charnock", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reading the "Sniping in France" by Hesketh-Prichard WWI writings of start of British Army sniping, (just got reprint from Ray Riling Books USD34.oo including air mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On page 58, Artists reference as follows,,, ""Our NCOs, too, were the very pick of the Army,,, There was,,, and Sergeant Blaikley, of the Artists' Rifles. Sergeant Blaikley, who had drawn for Punch from time to time, was an invaluable artist, and it was he who drew our Christmas card - Der Sportsman - depicting a German gassing stags on a Scottish deer forest."" As to a time frame, this reference in the book, is that these new NCOs were brought into the new First Army School of Scouting, Observation and Sniping (shown in book as First Army School of S.O.S.) was,,, ""For many months the school was "unofficial," but at last, on the 24 November 1916, more than fifteen months after I had begun serving as a sniping officer, we were granted "provisional establishment",,"" The school was situated,,, ""On a high plateau above the village of Linghem (in the general area of the Pas de Calais),, gave us a range of eight hundred yards and plenty of room for playing fields, which the Army always consider to be absolutely necessary,,,"" If, during the remainder of the book there are other references I will post Tom C Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
