Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Pavel Tsekov
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Gareth Pearce wrote:

 Anyone wishing to review these packages can point setup.exe to
 http://abackus.imagineis.com.

 I'll definitely review these when i get home ... hopefully they will solve
 my xerces-c related problems.

Ping. Have you had a chance to review this package ?




Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Pavel Tsekov
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Abraham Backus wrote:

 http://abackus.imagineis.com/xerces-c/xerces-c-2.1.0-2.tar.bz2
 http://abackus.imagineis.com/xerces-c-devel/xerces-c-devel-2.1.0-2.tar.bz2
 http://abackus.imagineis.com/xerces-c-doc/xerces-c-doc-2.1.0-2.tar.bz2

 Anyone wishing to review these packages can point setup.exe to 
http://abackus.imagineis.com.

You've changed the version number to 2.1.0-2, but this is not correct.
You have to stick to x.y.z-1 until the package is included in the Cygwin
net distro. When this becomes true and at some point you release an
update you will have to change to -2 then -3 and so on.




Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Pavel Tsekov
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Gareth Pearce wrote:

   Anyone wishing to review these packages can point setup.exe to
   http://abackus.imagineis.com.
  
   I'll definitely review these when i get home ... hopefully they will
 solve
   my xerces-c related problems.
 
  Ping. Have you had a chance to review this package ?

 As already posted - I had a chance for a 'quick' review - which found the

Sorry, Gareth, I saw your review but misread the name. Right after I sent
the message I realized my mistake. Anyway your last post adds some useful
info about this package.




Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 21:16, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Abraham Backus wrote:
 
  http://abackus.imagineis.com/xerces-c/xerces-c-2.1.0-2.tar.bz2
  http://abackus.imagineis.com/xerces-c-devel/xerces-c-devel-2.1.0-2.tar.bz2
  http://abackus.imagineis.com/xerces-c-doc/xerces-c-doc-2.1.0-2.tar.bz2
 
  Anyone wishing to review these packages can point setup.exe to 
http://abackus.imagineis.com.
 
 You've changed the version number to 2.1.0-2, but this is not correct.

Actually, it's long practice here, that each update gets a new -x
number, irrespective of whether they are released to the repository or
not. I think it avoids *any* confusion in the reviewers to do this. Not
doing it may lead to inaccurate feedback.

Rob
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Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Pavel Tsekov

On 6 Nov 2002, Robert Collins wrote:

   Anyone wishing to review these packages can point setup.exe to 
http://abackus.imagineis.com.
 
  You've changed the version number to 2.1.0-2, but this is not correct.

 Actually, it's long practice here, that each update gets a new -x
 number, irrespective of whether they are released to the repository or
 not. I think it avoids *any* confusion in the reviewers to do this. Not
 doing it may lead to inaccurate feedback.

I use only links - copypaste is suffiecient for me. And if you're
uploading files on sourceware you have one thing less to do i.e. rename
the files.However I see that I tried to enforce my own preferences and
for that I apologize.




Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 00:37, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
 
 On 6 Nov 2002, Robert Collins wrote:
 
Anyone wishing to review these packages can point setup.exe to 
http://abackus.imagineis.com.
  
   You've changed the version number to 2.1.0-2, but this is not correct.
 
  Actually, it's long practice here, that each update gets a new -x
  number, irrespective of whether they are released to the repository or
  not. I think it avoids *any* confusion in the reviewers to do this. Not
  doing it may lead to inaccurate feedback.
 
 I use only links - copypaste is suffiecient for me. And if you're
 uploading files on sourceware you have one thing less to do i.e. rename
 the files.However I see that I tried to enforce my own preferences and
 for that I apologize.

No need to apologise, things can always be changed and negotiated. I
don't understand what you mean by 'one less thing to do' though - there
is no need (and in fact reasons not to) rename files when uploading to
sourceware. 

Consider this: if the test copy we review was -3, and you approve that
version, you should not rename it to -1, else when -2 comes out, all the
testers will fail to upgrade. So -3 in review, stays as -3 when
uploading. Likewise, updating -1 to -2 to -3 during the review process
allows the testers to update properly. Does that make sense?

Rob

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Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Pavel Tsekov
On 6 Nov 2002, Robert Collins wrote:

 Consider this: if the test copy we review was -3, and you approve that
 version, you should not rename it to -1, else when -2 comes out, all the
 testers will fail to upgrade. So -3 in review, stays as -3 when
 uploading. Likewise, updating -1 to -2 to -3 during the review process
 allows the testers to update properly. Does that make sense?

Ok, but if one releases a new Cygwin package shouldn't it get -1, which
will make it first Cygwin release of this package ? And I'm under the
impression that xerces is a new package :)




Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 01:01, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
 On 6 Nov 2002, Robert Collins wrote:
 
  Consider this: if the test copy we review was -3, and you approve that
  version, you should not rename it to -1, else when -2 comes out, all the
  testers will fail to upgrade. So -3 in review, stays as -3 when
  uploading. Likewise, updating -1 to -2 to -3 during the review process
  allows the testers to update properly. Does that make sense?
 
 Ok, but if one releases a new Cygwin package shouldn't it get -1, which
 will make it first Cygwin release of this package ? And I'm under the
 impression that xerces is a new package :)

No, it should get *a* number that will then monotonically increase
within the same vendor version number.

Rob
 

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Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Pavel Tsekov


On 6 Nov 2002, Robert Collins wrote:

 On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 01:01, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
  On 6 Nov 2002, Robert Collins wrote:
 
   Consider this: if the test copy we review was -3, and you approve that
   version, you should not rename it to -1, else when -2 comes out, all the
   testers will fail to upgrade. So -3 in review, stays as -3 when
   uploading. Likewise, updating -1 to -2 to -3 during the review process
   allows the testers to update properly. Does that make sense?
 
  Ok, but if one releases a new Cygwin package shouldn't it get -1, which
  will make it first Cygwin release of this package ? And I'm under the
  impression that xerces is a new package :)

 No, it should get *a* number that will then monotonically increase
 within the same vendor version number.

Ok, I've just checked the package naming conventions to refresh my
memory. Check this:

http://cygwin.com/setup.html#naming

Maybe it should be updated.




Re: xerces-c, xerces-c-devel, xerces-c-doc 2.1.0-2 available forreview/upload

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 04:18, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 I don't recall people bumping the -x numbers previously.  I don't see
 why that's necessary.  Theoretically, we are a small enough and
 intelligent enough group that we won't be confused when the contents of
 a file are updated without updating the file version.
 
 I think, in general, a new cygwin package should start out with a -1.
 It's hardly worth starting a long discussion about but, IMO, the -x
 numbers are incremented when there is a new cygwin release not when
 someone is providing packages for review.
 
 cgf

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2001-08/msg00061.html

I don't care enough to argue, this is my last message on the subject.
I've already stated my position, that not bumping the numbers during the
package and repackage cycle will lead to confusion (IIRC it has once
already). However, as Pavel is doing an excellent job with tracking what
is pending and uploading 'stuff', my opinion is just that.

Rob
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