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Hicks,Habib remain in X-ray torture chambers.Hicks nearly one year. FBI's secret detention of suspect alarms Pakistan America's hunt for Osama bin Laden, and the extra-judicial methods used by intelligence agents in rounding up his alleged associates, face a new challenge in Pakistan. It centres on the secret detention of a British-trained orthopaedic surgeon, Dr Amir Aziz. American investigators suspect he provided medical treatment to Bin Laden and al-Qa'ida members in Afghanistan before the attack on the World Trade Centre. Yesterday a High Court judge in Lahore ordered the Pakistan Interior Ministry to cause the production of the doctor in his court next Tuesday, setting the stage for a possible showdown. Dr Aziz, 46, who used to treat the Pakistan cricket team, was taken away by FBI and Pakistani intelligence agents during a raid on his hospital office in Lahore on 21 October. His relatives have not seen him since. They have also not been told why he was detained or where he is. The case has generated strong emotions in Lahore in the eastern state of Punjab, which is widely seen as Pakistan's intellectual capital and a stronghold of democratic opposition to General Pervez Musharraf's military rule. The order by the judge, Tassadaq Hussain Jilani, was the court's second attempt to get the government to produce the doctor in response to a habeas corpus petition from Dr Aziz's elderly mother and a pro-democracy political party, a faction of the Pakistan Muslim League. Last week the judge who had earlier passed an injunction barring the doctor's extradition told the Interior Ministry to produce the doctor before him yesterday. It failed to do so, asking for more time on the basis that it was not sure of Dr Aziz's whereabouts. Central to the issue is the role of Pakistan's Inter- Services Intelligence (ISI). Its agents, to the annoyance of many Pakistanis, have been working with the FBI in tracking down and detaining suspected Islamist militants. Scores of Pakistanis have spent months being interrogated, without trial or charge, at the US naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba a practice widely seen in Pakistan as a violation of sovereignty. The doctor's family and lawyers believe the ISI knows where he is being held. They have not been impressed by the Interior Ministry's pleadings that one reason it has been unable to track down Dr Aziz is because the ISI does not come under its remit. Nor has Judge Jilani. He declared that he was not satisfied and warned the government that its citizens, even those accused of a serious crime, are entitled to the due process of law. His court shall see to it that Dr Aziz is provided with his rights, he told a crowded courtroom. People owe their allegiance to the state because it promises them security and justice. If people lose faith in state institutions, you can imagine the consequences. All sides in the case have so far avoided an all-out confrontation, which could stoke up the anger and resentment Pakistan about the so-called war on terror. Why the Americans are so interested in Dr Aziz remains unclear. Pakistan's Dawn newspaper, quoting his unnamed colleagues, said that he operated on Bin Laden in Afghanistan two years ago. If this is true, the Americans are certain to want to discover all they can about this. Dr Aziz's relatives in Lahore say he went to Afghanistan to do voluntary work at the Kabul Medical Centre. But they said he did so openly. He also travelled to Kosovo to work during the crisis there. He is a devout Muslim. One of the lawyers fighting his case, Ehsan Wyne, described him as a religious and philanthropic person, but not a fundamentalist or an extremist. There were unsourced news reports immediately after his arrest that he was accused of supplying anthrax to Islamist militants. Other accounts were even more vague, suggesting that he might have been involved in assisting al-Qa'ida to develop biological and chemical weapons. These allegations were dismissed as absolutely baseless yesterday by the doctor's brother, Dr Muhammad Ayub, a Lahore cardiologist. He told The Independent that Dr Aziz was a prominent and busy surgeon, who trained in London and Edinburgh in the 1980s. He was not connected with any political organisation, he said. He is an orthopaedic surgeon who I think may not even know the chemical formula for water. He is concerned with people's bones. Source: Independent http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=5563TagID=2
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The tapes of this incident broke up a courtroom watching Crowes pathetic performance. Police sued over Crowe 'extortion' 18nov02 THREE men cleared on charges including alleged extortion after a videotaped nightclub incident involving Russell Crowe are suing the NSW Police Service for malicious prosecution and wrongful arrest. Philip Antony Cropper and Malcolm Brian Mercer, both 38, and Mark Potts, 45, had been accused by police of trying to blackmail Crowe for payment after he was captured on a videotape in a brawl outside a Coffs Harbour nightclub on November 18, 1999. They were arrested by police on January 12, 2000. Mr Potts was eventually released on bail and had his charges withdrawn just before he was to face trial about two-and-a-half years later. Mr Cropper and Mr Mercer were eventually cleared by a jury and awarded costs in June this year. Today, the trio filed statements of claim in the NSW Supreme Court against the State of NSW and police officers alleging malicious prosecution, wrongful arrest. Mr Mercer and Mr Cropper are also suing for false imprisonment. All three claim police concealed evidence of criminality by Crowe. Lawyer Greg Walsh, speaking outside the NSW Supreme Court today, confirmed the three men had commenced proceedings. Malcolm (Brian) Mercer, Mark Potts and Phillip Antony Cropper have commenced proceedings today in the Supreme Court against certain police officers and the state of NSW, Mr Walsh said. He said the men were claiming that as a result of being charged by police and the continuation and maintenance of criminal proceedings, they had suffered significantly. Each of the men were seeking unspecified damages, contending their lives have been ruined and that they had suffered enormous financial loss, he said. According to Mr Walsh, both Mr Cropper and Mr Mercer ran successful nightclubs in Coffs Harbour and Port Macquarie while the latter was also a businessman on the Gold Coast and Sydney. The pair ran very successful businesses over many years and their financial documents indicated they were very successful financially, he said. As a result of these charges and having the charges over their heads for so long and the proceedings themselves ... in effect their businesses were ruined, he said. They've now been bankrupted and unable to continue working at all. Asked whether Crowe would be called to give evidence during proceedings, Mr Walsh said that from what he had seen of the video recording of the incident, at the centre of the legal action, the New Zealand-born, Australian-reared star appeared to be an integral witness. http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5510486%255E1702,00.html
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ASIO to pay wrong arrest detainees compensation People detained for up to 48 hours without access to legal advice under proposed counter-terrorism laws had the right to seek compensation if they were wrongfully held, a Senate inquiry heard today. more http://smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/18/1037490103003.html They have crawled out from under their rock... ...ASIO was not interested in making a mad grab for power, the spy agency boss said today as debate continued over the need for a wider role for ASIO in the wake of September 11. A Senate committee is the third body to hold an inquiry into proposed new powers for ASIO, including detaining people for up to a week without charge if it thinks they might have useful information. ASIO director general Dennis Richardson said he understood some people had genuine concerns about the new powers, especially the right to detain someone for up to 48 hours without a lawyer. But he said ASIO was just interested in maximising the chances of preventing an act of terrorism. .. http://theage.com.au/articles/2002/11/18/1037490104509.html Questions in the Senate... When is Bill Blik gonna pull his flamin' finger out? We're waiting for a good release date for WARNINGATE...possibly christmas,possibly christmas in the year 2525.
The rise and rise of Tony Rimmer.
Some things definitely improve with age. The Rise And Rise Of Michael Rimmer, panned by contemporary reviewers as a latecomer to the swinging sixties satirical ball, now appears, decades later, to be one of the most incisive, witty, and unnerving political/social satires ever captured on film. Its the finest celluloid outing of the great Peter Cook, managing to portray a character even more cutting and ruthless than his wily tempter Spiggott in 1967s Bedazzled. As the titular Rimmer, Cook marches unannounced into the offices of the Fairburn advertising agency one morning, clad in a smart suit and carrying an officious-looking clipboard under his arm - so loud, brash, and confident that no-one dare question his right to be there and proceeds to use the company as the first rung on his ladder to hasty success. By the end of the movie, this all too plausible creation has declared himself the first President of Great Britain, and his manipulative, whirlwind rise to power has left all enemies discredited, deceased, or simply reeling at the force of his overwhelming charisma. Despite appearing as a series of comic sketches (featuring the usual array of top-notch Brit talent) and having been part-scripted by Monty Python duo Cleese Chapman and partly by Cook and director Kevin Billington, the movie dovetails superbly, every routine achieving the requisite laughs while keeping the sinister Machiavellian plot forging ahead. One early Rimmer success is an ad campaign re-inventing a staid brand of inedible humbugs, packaging them into a rather suggestive length of silver tubing, re-naming the product Scorpio, and filming an extremely risqué t.v. commercial which will have fans of those old King Cone advertisements salivating! After this, theres no stopping the devious fraudster - his machinations result in flustered pollster Ronnie Corbett uncovering the Rimmer-contrived fact that 42% of Nuneatons populace are practising Buddhists; political ambitions lead him to court and then abandon both the socialist Prime Minister and the ailing Tory leader, but not before spin-doctoring a Conservative election victory and securing himself a safe seat (becoming Member of Parliament for the constituency of Budleigh Moor, in-joke fans!), while nabbing a trophy wife (the fabulously sexy Vanessa Howard) in the process. The U.K.s ailing gold reserves are replenished by the simple act of declaring war on Switzerland and attacking their treasury fortress using cans of Union Jacilli, i.e. the common cold in handy aerosol spray form, prior to dishing out a press release announcing that gold has been discovered in the North Sea; this in turn brings about a convenient photo opportunity during which Rimmer is able to push the new PM to his watery death from atop an unstable rig platform. Once installed as leader of the country, Rimmer goes into overdrive, pulling off his greatest coup so far. Pray that no prospective ministerial candidate ever sees this movie, as the plan proposed is so fiendish that it might just work for real. It sounds, at face value, to be the ultimate in democracy - allowing everyone in the country the opportunity to vote in a referendum on every single issue. The genius of this ploy is revealed when the great British public, saturated with form-filling and ballot-marking, give up all interest in politics - leaving a clear path for Rimmer to announce his job upgrade to presidential status. Surviving two assassination attempts (one perpetrator being disgruntled ex-Fairburn boss Arthur Lowe, his performance as usual quite the best aspect of a fine picture) during the Kennedy-in-Dallas style closing scenes, Cooks concluding, chilling freeze-frame stare into camera leaves no doubt as to his future dictatorial intentions. If youre considering voting at a future election - whether for New Labour, Tory, Lib Dem or Monster Raving Loony see this film first. And think. http://www.thespinningimage.co.uk/cultfilms/displaycultfilm.asp?reviewid=193
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Mike Diehl wrote: Dubbya has only been in office about a year and a half, and in that time, he has destroyed Freedom in this country? Not entirely, just *mostly*. I don't think so. I'm still able to practice my religion freely. Sure. Provided your religion does not offend the mainstream sensibilities. I can criticize my government and stay out of prison. As long as your criticism is not highly visible. I don't have soldiers living with/watching me. When was the last time you were out in public? How about an airport? Saddam is just as bad as most dictators, but let's not confuse the issue; he's still a DICTATOR! So? Dubbya and Asscruft have millions of people in prison for doing nothing wrong, only violating their bullshit rules in the War On Some Drugs. Hey, the law is posted. You may not agree with it, but it is the law. Saddam is the LAWFUL DICTATOR. You may not agree with it, but it IS THE LAW. I wouldn't have agreed with Prohibition, but I would have followed the law while at the same time trying to abolish it. Guess what, I have that freedom, still. As long as you do not attract any serious attention, yes. Once you attract serious attention, all bets are off. You'll either be found holding your breath forever, or you'll be carted off to the nearest Re-education Camp (maybe to share a cell with Bell). Personall, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home, but I won't want to drive on the same street, go to work with, or have my child watched, by anyone who is high on some drug. If that means smoking dope keeps someone from being imployed, that's not my problem. Why should my employment in a programming capacity be contingent on what you find desirable in a baby-sitter? They have killed thousands of innocent Afghans, and are intent on murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis just to steal their oil. This makes Dubbya a mass-murder far beyond the scale of Saddam. Well, mass-murder is a bit strong. No. It's exactly correct. How about what we have done in Iraq? Both life expectancy and quality of life have nosedived as a direct result of OUR actions, not Saddam's. Remember, before we got into the act, Saddam was providing the worlds finest medical services, world-class education, housing, etc... We are the ones who not only destroyed it, but have spent the last 12 years insuring that the people we are supposedly concerned for are systematically starved to death, prevented from receiving medical care, potable water, etc... I believe we are motivated by oil; not arguement there. Perhapse Dubbya is looking out for the US's, and his own? best interests. I'll bet you drive a car and like a warm home, and like that electricity stuff. Well, it all NEEDS OIL! The average American Sheep would riot in the street if they couldn't drive their SUV to church on sunday. Not that Klinton was any better. Not EVEN going to go there grin I guess we all agree on this one. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
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INSIGHT NEWS ALERT! New stories from Insight on the News are now online. http://www.insightmag.com/ ... Folks, I note this morning that the governor-elect of Maryland, Republican Bob Erlich said hell end the states moratorium on the death penalty as soon as he takes office. Im reminded that there has been hardly a peep out of the anti-death penalty crowd lately. It seems the absolute proscription against putting convicted criminals to death has become a little shaky, when confronted with the right crime, evidence, and set of criminals. Where are the high-minded moralists to speak out risking popularity and donations -- against the prospects of this particular state murder? Anyway, Tim Maiers little article on the secret CIA documents regarding the Noahs Ark Mt. Ararat Anomaly got a surprising amount of attention. If you havent seen it, we still have it posted. http://www.insightmag.com/news/321357.html And Ken Timmerman struck another nerve with his investigative report confirming that Saddam is preparing to use his stocks of poison gas (probably on our sons and daughters). http://www.insightmag.com/news/324231.html These along with a sterling collection of pieces guaranteed to keep you better-informed than anyone else. Just look below. Thats it for today. Until we meet again, I remain in the Bunker as your newsman in Washington. ... SADDAM PREPARES TO USE POISON GAS Ken Timmerman reports from Paris that documents show Saddam has been trying to purchase large quantities of the nerve gas antidote Atropine. http://www.insightmag.com/news/324231.html ... TOP EGYPTIAN CLERIC JUSTIFIES SUICIDE TERRORISM Ken Timmerman tells us that one view of Islam is that it is forever a religion of peace that values human life. Egypt's Grand Mufti sets the record straight in an interview with Insight. http://www.insightmag.com/news/319338.html MORE KIND WORDS ABOUT INSIGHT MAGAZINE PLEASE CONTINUE HONEST REPORTING. Its the only way we on the street have of knowing whats really happening. -- D.S., via E-mail EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT PUBLICATION. I WISH YOU CONTINUED SUCCESS! -- K.A., via E-mail INSIGHT -- DISCOVER US FOR YOURSELF https://www.collegepublisher.com/insightsub/subform1.cfm ... U.S. WARY OF KUCHMAGATE Doug Burton writes that allegations that Ukraine President Leonid Kuchma authorized the sale of a high-tech radar system to Iraq is threatening the republic's integration into the West. http://www.insightmag.com/news/319353.html ... DOES SMOKING SAVE MONEY? James Lacey writes that zealots who crusade to preserve our health have overlooked the cost to society of banning smoking. http://www.insightmag.com/news/320500.html ... S. KOREA DIVIDED OVER U.S. FOREIGN POLICY UPI reports that the South Korean government is split over a U.S. decision to suspend oil assistance to the North. http://www.insightmag.com/news/325471.html ... ORGANIZED CRIME AND CIGARETTES Kelley OMeara reports that the European Community has filed lawsuit accusing R.J. Reynolds Tobacco of involvement with organized crime. http://www.insightmag.com/news/324556.html ... FAIR COMMENT -- TIME TO TREAT TURKEY AS AN ALLY James Lacey writes that Turkey has proved time and again its friendship with the West and its desire to be a true friend and ally to America. The United States needs to let Turkey know we will be there for them also. http://www.insightmag.com/news/320593.html Inside the 9/11 Intelligence Failure! Read Bill Gertz Breakdown And youll learn why intelligence services are called blind, deaf and dumb. And how they became welfare bureaucracies saturated with the doctrine of appeasement and incapable of effective clandestine operations. http://www.conservativebookservice.com/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6007sour_cd=INB004101 You have received this newsletter because you have a user name and password at Insight on the News. To unsubscribe from this newsletter, visit http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=unsubscribe;. You may also log into Insight on the News and edit your account preferences on the Web. If you have forgotten or don't know your user name and password, it will be emailed to you after visiting the following link: http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=emailPasswordserialNumber=16oai891z5[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can no be so single minded in this case you must realize that if America can justify Attacking Iraq then China can easily justify attacking there missing land Tiewon or a hundred different feuds between countries, and Dubbya cant place this in his long lost war agents terrorism witch has completely left. he must realize that he will not go down in the history books as the Prez. That put down Saddam Hussein's Dictatorship. Maybe the one that starts WWIII, but come on Dubbya -ClarkeDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site
Morning Briefing, 11/18/2002
Title: Morning Briefing, 11/18/2002 Click Here! MONDAY a.m. November 18, 2002 The close last week was very bullish, and points to a strong opening this week. Usually the trend is dampened during the Thursday and Friday of expiration week, so there's a good chance the buying will be strong this morning. It's worth noting that the markets were able to rally on the afternoon of expiration Friday, after being down early in the day. Reports of the capture of a top Al-Qaeda operative overseas apparently sparked the rally, which really got the futures jumping when the news broke. This doesn't seem like such a big deal, this piece of news and the subsequent rally. It's just a quick pop off a news item. But it got me thinking. The foundation of the bearish doctrine involves a steadfast belief that the market simply can't go up again, because all the bad things that have already caused the bear market (we don't need to list them again) are not even close to being vanquished. And all of this bad fundamental stuff may indeed be true and valid. None of us really knows! But where does this line of thought take into account upside speculation? Since when was this banned? It's actually a little naïve to think that after a huge speculative bull market capped by an upside blow-off, investors will not be holding onto a little of that ol' speculative fever. After all, there is billions of dollars in cash earning next to nothing. If a few of the overhangs on this market are removed -- terrorists and dictators, for example -- then the markets could be right back into a mini-bubble. We got a glimpse on Friday: good news on Iraq or Al-Qaeda and people are going to buy stocks like crazy , whether it's right or wrong. It will be pure, unadulterated upside speculation. Such speculation will have dramatic spillover effects into the real economy, and could even accelerate a global economic recovery. But the bearish fundamental case never even takes this into account. Even without any of this happening, if we see the bond market drop, and the stock market move up simultaneously, then it will be clear that both these markets are discounting future economic growth. That's the best-case scenario for the bulls, and the process could already be underway. On the weekly chart of the OEX, last week's strong close broke nicely above the 10 week exponential moving average (green line), and looks on its way up to tag the 40-week average (pink line). The critical test will be the behavior at the recent top, right around OEX 472, SPX 924. A close over this will point straight higher, while a failure to get through will have to be monitored closely. On the weekly chart of the VIX, we can see the momentum is really starting to break towards more bullishness, but the process is far from exhaustion. The weekly MACD on the VIX (discussed last week in detail) shows volatility moving quickly back down to the low end of the range. If we look at the 10 week/40 week moving averages of the VIX, we can see that the 40 week moving average on the VIX was penetrated to the downside last week. This shows that the market may be on the verge of entering a true bullish phase, where the VIX once again moves down towards the low, low end of its range, in the low 20s. If you're a fan of sentiment analysis, this is actually the preferred scenario, because it makes the trading much easier if the markets can now create a large plurality of bulls. One of the big hurdles in this process -- the 40 week moving average on the VIX -- has already been decisively breached. Definitions This Morning Briefing is brought to you by 21st Century Alert. Your 21st Century Alert subscription offers so much more. Click here to go to 21st Century Alert's Web site. You can find this article on the Web at: http://www.21stcenturyalert.com/page/tcx/morningbriefing/2002-11-18/ To remove yourself from our mailing list, or to get your username and password so that you can access the Morning Briefing archives on our Web site, click here.
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(Being able to) sell votes
Who, for instance, sees nothing at all wrong with selling votes. Where I come from, it's called equity. :-). Yes, one could argue that the vast majority of the public have their votes bought and sold all the time, but they are unaware of it and don't reap the benefits. Wait scratch that...they ARE aware of it and don't give a crap precisely because they don't reap the benefits! Me, I don't like the idea of people actualy selling votes, but I think I like the idea of people BEING ABLE to sell their votes. From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stuart Schechter [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Digital Bearer Settlement List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: [fc] list of papers accepted to FC'03 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:58:37 -0500 At 9:24 AM -0500 on 11/16/02, Stuart Schechter wrote: I don't think you'll find our paper to be overly technical - at least not from a computer science or cryptographic perspective. We wrote this paper because we believe that determining the level of security necessary to deter an adversary is a problem of more general interest. Certainly if it's *financially* calculable. ;-). Cheers, RAH Who, for instance, sees nothing at all wrong with selling votes. Where I come from, it's called equity. :-). -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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Re: (Being able to) sell votes
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: Me, I don't like the idea of people actualy selling votes, but I think I like the idea of people BEING ABLE to sell their votes. But then votes are property, and property can be transfered, so you could sell your vote from your will, and dead voters could be very powerful :-) If I were Bill Gates, I'd like the idea too. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: AIR TRAVELER ID REQUIREMENT CHALLENGED
Damn. I can't help but think that this sounds kinda Kafka-esque...might we see something like this in the future? Court: Please provide a defense for the charges that have been levied against you. Gilmore: Sure, if you'll tell me what the charges are, and what law I've broken. Court: No. The charges against you are secret, as are the laws you have broken. Gilmore: Look, I can't defend myself or even make a plea until you tell me what law I've broken. Court (to Jurors): Do we need any more proof that this man is a terrorist? He is attempting to compromise national security by making our laws known to anybody who would seek to do our God-given nation harm. (to Gilmore) And remember, if you had been acting properly, none of this would have ever happened. If you are not a terrorist, then you should have nothing to worry about. From: John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AIR TRAVELER ID REQUIREMENT CHALLENGED Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:16:12 -0800 I was browsing some of my old mail when I came across this. What's the status of Gilmore's case? The regulations I'm challenging purport to require air and train travelers to show a government issued ID. Every traveler has been subjected to these requirements, but it turns out that they aren't really required by any published law or regulation. And if you refuse to meet the supposed requirements, you find out that there are alternative requirements, that they weren't telling you about. The government has responded, as have the airlines. Their response is to ask the court to dismiss the case, as expected. See the web site http://cryptome.org/freetotravel.htm for copies of their motions. The Federal one has the most interesting arguments. In summary, they argue that I can't challenge the no-fly list or anything other than the ID demand because, having not shown ID, the no-fly list was not applied to me; that I can't sue in a District Court anyway because the Court of Appeals is supposed to have original jurisdiction; that the government can make any rule it wants which relates to air security, and penalize the public over violations, without ever telling the public what the rule is; that being refused passage unless I present an ID does not infringe my constitutional right to travel anyway; that being prevented from traveling anoymously does not implicate any First Amendment interests; that every possible form of airport security is a fully constitutional 4th-Amendment search; and that since my right to travel is not being infringed, these searches give me equal protection just like all members of the public, because any 'rational' reason for singling out anonymous travelers will suffice. If everyone shows ID to fly, and they can get away with preventing anonymous travel, it becomes easy for the government to single out e.g. members of the Green Party. (If no ID was required, any persecuted minority would soon learn to book their tickets under assumed names.) The Nixon Administration had its enemies list, who it subjected to IRS audits and other harassment. But even that evil President didn't prevent his enemies from moving around the country to associate with anyone they liked. The Bush Administration's list interferes with freedom of association and with the constitutional right to travel. As my experience on July 4th, 2002, in the San Francisco airport demonstrated, citizens are free to not show ID to fly, if they spend half an hour arguing with security personnel over what the secret rules actually say. But then, catch-22, the citizen can board the plane only if they'll submit to a physical search like the ones that Green Party members and other on the list people are subjected to. So, you can identify yourself to them and be harassed for your political beliefs, unconstitutionally. Or you can stand up for your right to travel anonymously, and be searched unconstitutionally. Or you can just not travel. That's why I'm suing Mr. Ashcroft and his totalitarian buddies. The government motion to dismiss my case is filed at: http://cryptome.org/gilmore-v-usa-fmd.pdf The index to all the related documents is at: http://cryptome.org/freetotravel.htm Has there been a secret trial? No. We will file a response to this motion by approx Dec 1. Then they will file their reply in mid December or so. Both of those will go on the web site. (If anybody wants to OCR the PDFs of the gov't documents, please go for it and email me the text.) Then the court will read all this stuff, and we'll have a hearing, which is tentatively scheduled for mid-January. John _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Re: (Being able to) sell votes
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: Ross Perot demonstrated that you can buy your way into an election now. Maybe we should just admit that that's the case. Could it be worse than the unofficially sold elections and gerrymandered districts we have now? I think it's pretty well demonstrated the person with the most money wins. It would be a good way to build more respect for the dead, that's all :-) Wouldn't change the outcome of any election, but it might improve the living standards of those who least vote. At least for a day or so... Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: (Being able to) sell votes
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 07:02:40AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: | On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: | | Me, I don't like the idea of people actualy selling votes, but I think I | like the idea of people BEING ABLE to sell their votes. | | But then votes are property, and property can be transfered, so | you could sell your vote from your will, and dead voters could | be very powerful :-) If I were Bill Gates, I'd like the idea too. Ross Perot demonstrated that you can buy your way into an election now. Maybe we should just admit that that's the case. Could it be worse than the unofficially sold elections and gerrymandered districts we have now? Adam -- It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. -Hume
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Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
Quoting Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Third, there are good reasons why two of our list members have been sentenced to long jail terms by Big Brother, why some have fled the country, and why the Treasury Department's Criminal Investigation Unit published my SS number and declared in documents that I am a suspected criminal of some sort (yet to be determined in their secret court proceedings). For the lazy: http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.1999.03.29-1999.04.04/msg6.html and for background on that see: http://www.antioffline.com/apol.html -- Keith Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- OpenPGP Key: 0x79269A12
Re: Retry: Yet another attempt to defraud egold!
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Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Anonymous wrote: Tim is absolutely right -- we need a new Timmy McVeigh everyday. The people in that building were feds, the kids were fed kids. Unfortunate for the kids, but so what? Nits turn into lice. How many kids died at Waco? Thanks for the troll. We really needed it here.
slightly more in-depth article on the Wiretap ruling
Here's a more in-depth article on the new ruling. This just gets scarier and scarier ... ;~/ e Justice Department Wins Wiretap Ruling By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, November 18, 2002; 2:41 PM A secretive appeals court ruled today that antiterrorism legislation approved last year gives the Justice Department broad authority to conduct wiretaps and other surveillance on terrorism suspects within the United States. The order by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review represents a legal triumph for Attorney General John D. Ashcroft, who had pushed for the broader powers, and a clear setback for civil libertarians who said the new measures would jeopardize the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens. The 56-page ruling overturned a unanimous decision earlier this year by another secretive body, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which oversees the system by which the FBI obtains surveillance warrants in espionage and terrorism cases. The lower court had rebuffed Ashcroft9s requests for many new powers under the USA Patriot Act, arguing that the government had misused surveillance law in the past and had misled the court dozens of times. But the three-judge appellate panel--hearing its first case in nearly a quarter century--found that the Justice Department9s proposed use of the Patriot Act 3is constitutional because the surveillances it authorizes are reasonable.2 What9s more, the appellate court found, Justice lawyers appear to have been misinterpreting secret wiretap law since the 1980s by construing limitations that did not exist within federal statutes. Many lawmakers and other critics have argued since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on New York and the Pentagon that Justice and the FBI had grown too timid in its pursuit of secret warrants, including the case of alleged terrorist conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui. Government lawyers wrote in court papers that the lower spy court had 3wholly exceeded2 its authority in refusing Ashcroft9s requests for new powers, arguing that Congress had clearly approved broader surveillance authority in the wake of Sept. 11. The American Civil Liberties Union and other groups maintained that Ashcroft9s proposed reforms would impinge on First Amendment and due-process rights by giving the government a greater ability to monitor telephone conversations, read private e-mails and conduct other surveillance. Ashcroft hailed the ruling at a press conference this afternoon, saying it revolutionizes our ability to investigate terrorists and investigate terrorist acts. Ashcroft also announced a raft of changes now in the works to more aggressively pursue intelligence surveillance, including the creation of a new unit within the FBI to coordinate the use of such warrants. The foreign intelligence court was created in 1978 to oversee intelligence surveillance by the FBI and other domestic agencies, and it is required to sign off on any clandestine monitoring within the United States. The May 17 ruling against Ashcroft was the only time the secretive court has ever publicly issued a joint ruling, and the government9s appeal activated a special appeals court for the first time. The spy court9s unusual rules only give the government a right to appeal, but the ACLU and other groups are exploring other options, officials said. ) 2002 The Washington Post Company
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Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
But you forget - the BATF agents were all beeped and informed to not bother to come in to work that day, and instead met up elsewhere, suited up so they could arrive just in time (a few minutes after the boom) to be heroic. That indicates something, what exactly it indicates is left as an excercise to the reader. So does the confiscation of surveillance video from several sources across the street that was never shown as evidence (because supposedly it would have shown that McVeigh had an accomplice - who was described as possibly of Arab origin.) Further, they claimed that it was a single bomb - the truck, but eventually discovered incendiary devices inside the building. Further, the way the building exploded showed that one of the interal columns that broke could not have done so from a ryder truck parked outside the building. The lone nut theory didn't work in this case. But the results are largely the same. The death of many innocents, the loss of freedom for the rest, the ratcheting up of terror. Shades of JFK and the grassy knoll Batman! --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Anonymous wrote: Tim is absolutely right -- we need a new Timmy McVeigh everyday. The people in that building were feds, the kids were fed kids. Unfortunate for the kids, but so what? Nits turn into lice. How many kids died at Waco?
Re: Assassination Politics: Coming soon?
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Keith Ray wrote: It's been a number of years since Jim Bell wrote his infamous Assassination Politics essay. If someone were to try to implement the system today and not share Jim Bell's fate, they would need absolute anonymity and security. The technical requirements for implementing the system are: 1. Anonymous and secure communication between the organization and the contributors and guessors. 2. Anonymous payment system. 3. Anonymous public presense of the organization to solicit contributions and display bounties to potential assassins. At the time AP was written, only the first requirement could have been met using the mixmaster remailer network. The last two requirements were not yet available. Not true. Usenet is a fine forum for anonymous discussion. See Blacknet. However, two new systems, DMT and Freenet, could be used to meet the anonymous payment and anonymous public presense requirements. Freenet is irrelevant. As for the DMT Rand, and assuming it is a viable currency, the question should be will there be a large enough anonymity set to make this practical. That has always been a problem with this scheme. Even if anonymous digital cash is available, if the number of users is below a threshold limit there will be no actual anonymity gained. (Oh, and there is still the messy issue of the wetwork involved. Someone still needs to get out there and whack the poor git.) If someone did want to implement AP, would DMT/Yodel, Freenet, and Mixmaster be good enough to keep the TLA's from shutting the system down? That is an entirely different question. The answer is no -- if Mixmaster were regularly used as a key component in an assassination market, running Mixmaster would become illegal. Those remailer operators who would persist in running Mixmaster would be jailed or disappeared. Or the Rand could be attacked, and use of non-government currency could be made illegal. If you are reduced to an anonymity set of fellow criminals, it doesn't matter if your individual crime is not known. If use or possession of the Rand is a crime, you're shit out of luck. AP as presented is unworkable. It is amusing that the IRS so got its panties bunched over such an impractical scheme. (Oh, btw -- expect an audit, Keith, if you are unfortunate enough to be a US taxpayer.) If one wanted to do a cyberspace assassination market, it could be done without anonymous digital cash, assuming there was some degree of financial trust between the players. (Negotiation of price and target can be done using Mixmaster, PGP encryption, and Usenet. Payment can be rendered via an anonymous numbered offshore bank account accessible by anyone who has the number/password combination. The buyer provides this information to the seller after the hit, or perhaps splits the payment across two accounts and does a half now, half on delivery system. Insert standard reputation capital system ideas here, wherein certain buyers and sellers are known to be reliable, and have persistent nyms because of PGP signatures. This is nothing new -- Blacknet demonstrated this could be done with information. It is a small step to extend the black market brokering to meatspace deeds. -MW-
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Re: Assassination Politics: Coming soon?
On Monday 18 November 2002 07:24 pm, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Keith Ray wrote: It's been a number of years since Jim Bell wrote his infamous Assassination Politics essay. If someone were to try to implement the system today and not share Jim Bell's fate, they would need absolute anonymity and security. The technical requirements for implementing the system are: I'm not well informed. What was Jim Bell's fate? -- Mike Diehl PGP Encrypted E-mail preferred. Public Key via: http://dominion.dyndns.org/~mdiehl/mdiehl.asc
Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
On Monday 18 November 2002 04:03 pm, Eric Cordian wrote: Someone posted: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A special, secretive appeals court on Monday said the U.S. government has the right to use expanded powers to wiretap suspected terrorism suspects under a law adopted by Congress after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Any chance that someone could post the pointer to this article? I missed it the first time. TIA -- Mike Diehl PGP Encrypted E-mail preferred. Public Key via: http://dominion.dyndns.org/~mdiehl/mdiehl.asc
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I decided to look into these DMT Rands that everyone has been yammering about. I'm not terribly surprised to see that they are a product of the Laissez Faire City grifters. No thanks. This little investigation did spark my interest in aquiring gold, however. Do readers of this list have suggestions about what type of bullion to obtain? How about referrals to reputable dealers? What is the best type of gold to aquire, and where should one get it?
Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Sunder wrote: But you forget - the BATF agents were all beeped and informed to not bother to come in to work that day, and instead met up elsewhere, suited up so they could arrive just in time (a few minutes after the boom) to be heroic. That indicates something, what exactly it indicates is left as an excercise to the reader. So does the confiscation of surveillance video from several sources across the street that was never shown as evidence (because supposedly it would have shown that McVeigh had an accomplice - who was described as possibly of Arab origin.) I remember clearly the search for man number 2, and it ended really mysteriously - the news media just stopped talking about him. I was in Chicago at the time, and the number of cops on bridges for the week after that was really amazing. Then no more searching. Further, they claimed that it was a single bomb - the truck, but eventually discovered incendiary devices inside the building. Further, the way the building exploded showed that one of the interal columns that broke could not have done so from a ryder truck parked outside the building. The lone nut theory didn't work in this case. But the results are largely the same. The death of many innocents, the loss of freedom for the rest, the ratcheting up of terror. Shades of JFK and the grassy knoll Batman! There was a lot of comment about this from explosives experts. Don't forget the seismometer recordings that showed a second explosion 10 minutes later (I think, it might have been 1 minute, but definitly much later). They also halted the search for victims so the DEA could remove file cabinets. It sure seemed to me at the time that McVeigh was the fall guy for an inside job. And given the one report about CIA meeting OBL about 2 or 3 months before 01/9/11 one wonders if the big boys just needed something *bigger* to make sure they got total control. But it's more likely stupidity than malfesance. McVeigh was nut, and the BATF stored explosives under a day care center, McVeigh's bomb didn't distroy the building, it just set off the explosives that weren't supposed to be there. Doesn't explain man #2 tho So there's plenty of meat for conspiracy theory for a long time to come! Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: Assassination Politics: Coming soon?
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 02:58 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: On Monday 18 November 2002 07:24 pm, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Keith Ray wrote: It's been a number of years since Jim Bell wrote his infamous Assassination Politics essay. If someone were to try to implement the system today and not share Jim Bell's fate, they would need absolute anonymity and security. The technical requirements for implementing the system are: I'm not well informed. What was Jim Bell's fate? Google will give you immediate information. Several good introductory articles, including the Declan M. article already linked to in this thread. --Tim May The State is the great fiction by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else. --Frederic Bastiat
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Keith Ray wrote: It's been a number of years since Jim Bell wrote his infamous Assassination Politics essay. If someone were to try to implement the system today and not share Jim Bell's fate, they would need absolute anonymity and security. The technical requirements for implementing the system are: 1. Anonymous and secure communication between the organization and the contributors and guessors. 2. Anonymous payment system. 3. Anonymous public presense of the organization to solicit contributions and display bounties to potential assassins. At the time AP was written, only the first requirement could have been met using the mixmaster remailer network. The last two requirements were not yet available. Not true. Usenet is a fine forum for anonymous discussion. See Blacknet. However, two new systems, DMT and Freenet, could be used to meet the anonymous payment and anonymous public presense requirements. Freenet is irrelevant. As for the DMT Rand, and assuming it is a viable currency, the question should be will there be a large enough anonymity set to make this practical. That has always been a problem with this scheme. Even if anonymous digital cash is available, if the number of users is below a threshold limit there will be no actual anonymity gained. (Oh, and there is still the messy issue of the wetwork involved. Someone still needs to get out there and whack the poor git.) If someone did want to implement AP, would DMT/Yodel, Freenet, and Mixmaster be good enough to keep the TLA's from shutting the system down? That is an entirely different question. The answer is no -- if Mixmaster were regularly used as a key component in an assassination market, running Mixmaster would become illegal. Those remailer operators who would persist in running Mixmaster would be jailed or disappeared. Or the Rand could be attacked, and use of non-government currency could be made illegal. If you are reduced to an anonymity set of fellow criminals, it doesn't matter if your individual crime is not known. If use or possession of the Rand is a crime, you're shit out of luck. AP as presented is unworkable. It is amusing that the IRS so got its panties bunched over such an impractical scheme. (Oh, btw -- expect an audit, Keith, if you are unfortunate enough to be a US taxpayer.) If one wanted to do a cyberspace assassination market, it could be done without anonymous digital cash, assuming there was some degree of financial trust between the players. (Negotiation of price and target can be done using Mixmaster, PGP encryption, and Usenet. Payment can be rendered via an anonymous numbered offshore bank account accessible by anyone who has the number/password combination. The buyer provides this information to the seller after the hit, or perhaps splits the payment across two accounts and does a half now, half on delivery system. Insert standard reputation capital system ideas here, wherein certain buyers and sellers are known to be reliable, and have persistent nyms because of PGP signatures. This is nothing new -- Blacknet demonstrated this could be done with information. It is a small step to extend the black market brokering to meatspace deeds. -MW- Thanks for that. While closely associated with the APster meme here and elsewhere,I now see that the conditions for its widespread uptake are so favorable that I now wish to totally dis-associate myself from the project.I want to thank the rebel alliance and also, in a bizzaro way,the evil empire, as well,for a bang up job. I have a great law suit underway,good looks,virility and a marvelous future ahead of me. As the local US puppet government issues another terror alert,I leave you now with my congratulations and best wishes for the crypto-anarchic millennium.We won. It was a famous victory. PS.I may still use the place as a blog if no one objects.It's a great format as files are associated with dates AND Mongo mnemetics.Who says he is useless! It's been real.
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Clearly Dr Kervorkian and Dr Oswald are grossly misunderstood men.Based on Vatican instigated Popery that distorted US freedoms and civil rights,including the most primal...the right to die and/or have someone assist you in exercising that right. The truth about 'missile buildups.'and 'squeal like a (bay of) pig(s).' ...He severely tore a groin muscle while frolicking poolside with one of his sexual partners during a West Coast trip in the last week of September 1963. The pain was so intense that the White House medical staff prescribed a stiff canvas shoulder-to-groin brace that locked his body in a rigid upright position. It was far more constraining that his usual back brace, which he also continued to wear. The two braces were meant to keep him as comfortable as possible during the strenuous days of campaigning, including that day in Dallas. Those braces also made it impossible for the president to bend in reflex when he was struck in the neck by the bullet fired by Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald's first successful shot was not necessarily fatal, but the president remained erect -- and an excellent target for the second, fatal blow to the head.Dr knows best. Smersh observes ominously that the groin brace is now in the possession of the National Archives in Washington but was not mentioned in the public autopsy report, nor was the injury that had led to his need for it. Elsewhere in the book, Smersh implies that Kennedy's womanizing was responsible for the delay in advising him of the presence of Soviet missiles in Cuba at the outset of the Cuban missile crisis.The KGB cites how Kennedy's national security adviser McTheodore Bundy learned of the missile buildup one night but didn't tell the president until the next morning because, as Bundy later wrote, I decided that a quiet evening and a night of sleep were the best preparations you could have. Then Smersh adds: As we have seen in this book, there were many times in the Kennedy White House, according to the Secret Service, when the president could not be disturbed, even for the most urgent of matters .. Kennedy's relationship with Judith Campbell Exner may have cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars because it apparently became known to the General Dynamics Corporation, which may have used that knowledge to win a government contract to build a new generation of fighter planes known as the TFX. Agent Starling reports a break-in of Exner's apartment in west Los Angeles by two men later identified by the FBI as the twin sons of I.B. Hale, who was in charge of security for General Dynamics. At the time of the break-in the corporation's chances of landing the contract were precarious, and the Hale family's criminal entry into Judith Campbell Exner's apartment, which has never been reported before, raises an obvious question: Was Jack Kennedy blackmailed by a desperate corporation? Starlings boss leaves little doubt that he thinks the answer is in the affirmative, but offers mainly the rationale that General Dynamics was in bad shape at the time and on the merits w not competitive with its chief rival for the contract, the Boeing company. GRU special agent 'Yuri' conducted more than a thousand interviews with people who knew and worked with Kennedy . . . and virtually all of those interviews were conducted 'on the record.' These are not 'unnamed sources.' His prodigious work habits lend credence to the number of interviews, and his ability to get four Secret Service agents who protected Kennedy inside the White House to testify by name and on the record to his sexual indulgences is impressive, as is his collection of other attributed sources... ...He quotes Time's Sidey telling about one time he went skinny-dipping with Kennedy in the White House pool and Kennedy started talking about a favorite biography of Lord Melbourne, with Kennedy relating how the young aristocracy of Britain . . . when they went to their country estates, it was broken-field running through the bedrooms. I mean they swapped wives, they slept with others. But the code of that period was nobody talked about it... ...Jackie hammers at the Washington press corps for covering up for Kennedy the brutal treatment he received from Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev in their stormy 1961 meeting in Vienna. A few favored members of the Washington press corps learned how thoroughly rattled President Kennedy had been by his confrontation with Khrushchev at Vienna, she writes, but they did not share that information with their readers -- as Kennedy knew they would not. .. JFK did Fiddle and Faddle, Secret Service code names for 21 and 23 year old staff members hired mostly for sex. JFK tested dangerous drugs on them without their knowledge by putting drugs in their drinks. JFK got shots of speed from Dr. Max Jacobson, aka Dr. Feelgood. JFK had a penchant for swimming nude with his female guests at wild pool parties.
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Re: (Being able to) sell votes
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: Ross Perot demonstrated that you can buy your way into an election now. Maybe we should just admit that that's the case. Could it be worse than the unofficially sold elections and gerrymandered districts we have now? I think it's pretty well demonstrated the person with the most money wins. It would be a good way to build more respect for the dead, that's all :-) Wouldn't change the outcome of any election, but it might improve the living standards of those who least vote. At least for a day or so... Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: (Being able to) sell votes
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 07:02:40AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: | On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: | | Me, I don't like the idea of people actualy selling votes, but I think I | like the idea of people BEING ABLE to sell their votes. | | But then votes are property, and property can be transfered, so | you could sell your vote from your will, and dead voters could | be very powerful :-) If I were Bill Gates, I'd like the idea too. Ross Perot demonstrated that you can buy your way into an election now. Maybe we should just admit that that's the case. Could it be worse than the unofficially sold elections and gerrymandered districts we have now? Adam -- It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. -Hume
Re: AIR TRAVELER ID REQUIREMENT CHALLENGED
Damn. I can't help but think that this sounds kinda Kafka-esque...might we see something like this in the future? Court: Please provide a defense for the charges that have been levied against you. Gilmore: Sure, if you'll tell me what the charges are, and what law I've broken. Court: No. The charges against you are secret, as are the laws you have broken. Gilmore: Look, I can't defend myself or even make a plea until you tell me what law I've broken. Court (to Jurors): Do we need any more proof that this man is a terrorist? He is attempting to compromise national security by making our laws known to anybody who would seek to do our God-given nation harm. (to Gilmore) And remember, if you had been acting properly, none of this would have ever happened. If you are not a terrorist, then you should have nothing to worry about. From: John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AIR TRAVELER ID REQUIREMENT CHALLENGED Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:16:12 -0800 I was browsing some of my old mail when I came across this. What's the status of Gilmore's case? The regulations I'm challenging purport to require air and train travelers to show a government issued ID. Every traveler has been subjected to these requirements, but it turns out that they aren't really required by any published law or regulation. And if you refuse to meet the supposed requirements, you find out that there are alternative requirements, that they weren't telling you about. The government has responded, as have the airlines. Their response is to ask the court to dismiss the case, as expected. See the web site http://cryptome.org/freetotravel.htm for copies of their motions. The Federal one has the most interesting arguments. In summary, they argue that I can't challenge the no-fly list or anything other than the ID demand because, having not shown ID, the no-fly list was not applied to me; that I can't sue in a District Court anyway because the Court of Appeals is supposed to have original jurisdiction; that the government can make any rule it wants which relates to air security, and penalize the public over violations, without ever telling the public what the rule is; that being refused passage unless I present an ID does not infringe my constitutional right to travel anyway; that being prevented from traveling anoymously does not implicate any First Amendment interests; that every possible form of airport security is a fully constitutional 4th-Amendment search; and that since my right to travel is not being infringed, these searches give me equal protection just like all members of the public, because any 'rational' reason for singling out anonymous travelers will suffice. If everyone shows ID to fly, and they can get away with preventing anonymous travel, it becomes easy for the government to single out e.g. members of the Green Party. (If no ID was required, any persecuted minority would soon learn to book their tickets under assumed names.) The Nixon Administration had its enemies list, who it subjected to IRS audits and other harassment. But even that evil President didn't prevent his enemies from moving around the country to associate with anyone they liked. The Bush Administration's list interferes with freedom of association and with the constitutional right to travel. As my experience on July 4th, 2002, in the San Francisco airport demonstrated, citizens are free to not show ID to fly, if they spend half an hour arguing with security personnel over what the secret rules actually say. But then, catch-22, the citizen can board the plane only if they'll submit to a physical search like the ones that Green Party members and other on the list people are subjected to. So, you can identify yourself to them and be harassed for your political beliefs, unconstitutionally. Or you can stand up for your right to travel anonymously, and be searched unconstitutionally. Or you can just not travel. That's why I'm suing Mr. Ashcroft and his totalitarian buddies. The government motion to dismiss my case is filed at: http://cryptome.org/gilmore-v-usa-fmd.pdf The index to all the related documents is at: http://cryptome.org/freetotravel.htm Has there been a secret trial? No. We will file a response to this motion by approx Dec 1. Then they will file their reply in mid December or so. Both of those will go on the web site. (If anybody wants to OCR the PDFs of the gov't documents, please go for it and email me the text.) Then the court will read all this stuff, and we'll have a hearing, which is tentatively scheduled for mid-January. John _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (Being able to) sell votes
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: Me, I don't like the idea of people actualy selling votes, but I think I like the idea of people BEING ABLE to sell their votes. But then votes are property, and property can be transfered, so you could sell your vote from your will, and dead voters could be very powerful :-) If I were Bill Gates, I'd like the idea too. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: CDR: Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get theoil. Who's ne
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Mike Diehl wrote: Dubbya has only been in office about a year and a half, and in that time, he has destroyed Freedom in this country? Not entirely, just *mostly*. I don't think so. I'm still able to practice my religion freely. Sure. Provided your religion does not offend the mainstream sensibilities. I can criticize my government and stay out of prison. As long as your criticism is not highly visible. I don't have soldiers living with/watching me. When was the last time you were out in public? How about an airport? Saddam is just as bad as most dictators, but let's not confuse the issue; he's still a DICTATOR! So? Dubbya and Asscruft have millions of people in prison for doing nothing wrong, only violating their bullshit rules in the War On Some Drugs. Hey, the law is posted. You may not agree with it, but it is the law. Saddam is the LAWFUL DICTATOR. You may not agree with it, but it IS THE LAW. I wouldn't have agreed with Prohibition, but I would have followed the law while at the same time trying to abolish it. Guess what, I have that freedom, still. As long as you do not attract any serious attention, yes. Once you attract serious attention, all bets are off. You'll either be found holding your breath forever, or you'll be carted off to the nearest Re-education Camp (maybe to share a cell with Bell). Personall, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home, but I won't want to drive on the same street, go to work with, or have my child watched, by anyone who is high on some drug. If that means smoking dope keeps someone from being imployed, that's not my problem. Why should my employment in a programming capacity be contingent on what you find desirable in a baby-sitter? They have killed thousands of innocent Afghans, and are intent on murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis just to steal their oil. This makes Dubbya a mass-murder far beyond the scale of Saddam. Well, mass-murder is a bit strong. No. It's exactly correct. How about what we have done in Iraq? Both life expectancy and quality of life have nosedived as a direct result of OUR actions, not Saddam's. Remember, before we got into the act, Saddam was providing the worlds finest medical services, world-class education, housing, etc... We are the ones who not only destroyed it, but have spent the last 12 years insuring that the people we are supposedly concerned for are systematically starved to death, prevented from receiving medical care, potable water, etc... I believe we are motivated by oil; not arguement there. Perhapse Dubbya is looking out for the US's, and his own? best interests. I'll bet you drive a car and like a warm home, and like that electricity stuff. Well, it all NEEDS OIL! The average American Sheep would riot in the street if they couldn't drive their SUV to church on sunday. Not that Klinton was any better. Not EVEN going to go there grin I guess we all agree on this one. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
(Being able to) sell votes
Who, for instance, sees nothing at all wrong with selling votes. Where I come from, it's called equity. :-). Yes, one could argue that the vast majority of the public have their votes bought and sold all the time, but they are unaware of it and don't reap the benefits. Wait scratch that...they ARE aware of it and don't give a crap precisely because they don't reap the benefits! Me, I don't like the idea of people actualy selling votes, but I think I like the idea of people BEING ABLE to sell their votes. From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stuart Schechter [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Digital Bearer Settlement List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: [fc] list of papers accepted to FC'03 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:58:37 -0500 At 9:24 AM -0500 on 11/16/02, Stuart Schechter wrote: I don't think you'll find our paper to be overly technical - at least not from a computer science or cryptographic perspective. We wrote this paper because we believe that determining the level of security necessary to deter an adversary is a problem of more general interest. Certainly if it's *financially* calculable. ;-). Cheers, RAH Who, for instance, sees nothing at all wrong with selling votes. Where I come from, it's called equity. :-). -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: AIR TRAVELER ID REQUIREMENT CHALLENGED
I was browsing some of my old mail when I came across this. What's the status of Gilmore's case? The regulations I'm challenging purport to require air and train travelers to show a government issued ID. Every traveler has been subjected to these requirements, but it turns out that they aren't really required by any published law or regulation. And if you refuse to meet the supposed requirements, you find out that there are alternative requirements, that they weren't telling you about. The government has responded, as have the airlines. Their response is to ask the court to dismiss the case, as expected. See the web site http://cryptome.org/freetotravel.htm for copies of their motions. The Federal one has the most interesting arguments. In summary, they argue that I can't challenge the no-fly list or anything other than the ID demand because, having not shown ID, the no-fly list was not applied to me; that I can't sue in a District Court anyway because the Court of Appeals is supposed to have original jurisdiction; that the government can make any rule it wants which relates to air security, and penalize the public over violations, without ever telling the public what the rule is; that being refused passage unless I present an ID does not infringe my constitutional right to travel anyway; that being prevented from traveling anoymously does not implicate any First Amendment interests; that every possible form of airport security is a fully constitutional 4th-Amendment search; and that since my right to travel is not being infringed, these searches give me equal protection just like all members of the public, because any 'rational' reason for singling out anonymous travelers will suffice. If everyone shows ID to fly, and they can get away with preventing anonymous travel, it becomes easy for the government to single out e.g. members of the Green Party. (If no ID was required, any persecuted minority would soon learn to book their tickets under assumed names.) The Nixon Administration had its enemies list, who it subjected to IRS audits and other harassment. But even that evil President didn't prevent his enemies from moving around the country to associate with anyone they liked. The Bush Administration's list interferes with freedom of association and with the constitutional right to travel. As my experience on July 4th, 2002, in the San Francisco airport demonstrated, citizens are free to not show ID to fly, if they spend half an hour arguing with security personnel over what the secret rules actually say. But then, catch-22, the citizen can board the plane only if they'll submit to a physical search like the ones that Green Party members and other on the list people are subjected to. So, you can identify yourself to them and be harassed for your political beliefs, unconstitutionally. Or you can stand up for your right to travel anonymously, and be searched unconstitutionally. Or you can just not travel. That's why I'm suing Mr. Ashcroft and his totalitarian buddies. The government motion to dismiss my case is filed at: http://cryptome.org/gilmore-v-usa-fmd.pdf The index to all the related documents is at: http://cryptome.org/freetotravel.htm Has there been a secret trial? No. We will file a response to this motion by approx Dec 1. Then they will file their reply in mid December or so. Both of those will go on the web site. (If anybody wants to OCR the PDFs of the gov't documents, please go for it and email me the text.) Then the court will read all this stuff, and we'll have a hearing, which is tentatively scheduled for mid-January. John
Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
And to think some people think Timoth McVeigh was wrong in liquidating a military target. Holy Crap May, I'm not quite sure how you meant this but I find this distrubing (and I agree with a lot of what you post)...by Military Target do you mean the building, or the people (and children) who were in it? Can people who do not know they are military targets count as military targets? These aren't meant as rhetorical I'm making a really good point questions, but actual questions. Depending on your answer, I wonder how you feel about the WTC (along with a few thousand people) getting taken out by an American Airlines Smart Missle. Interested to hear your response. (And no, I don't think the answer is necessarily obvious by anyone who's thinking correctly.) From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:13:55 -0800 On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 10:31 AM, Elyn Wollensky wrote: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers 36 minutes ago WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A special, secretive appeals court on Monday said the U.S. government has the right to use expanded powers to wiretap suspected terrorism suspects under a law adopted by Congress after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Well, this is what you get with Star Chamber Government: not only are the actual specific _cases_ done with secret prosecutors, secret judges, secret panels, but the arguments over the underlying legal issues (which obviously cannot compromise a specific intelligence case and hence have no reason to be secret, even in Orwellian logic) are also secret. One wonders about secret rulings which have never been made public. Perhaps the Supreme Court also meets in secret and issues secret rulings. We have always been at war with Eastasia. Ignorance is strength. And to think some people think Timoth McVeigh was wrong in liquidating a military target. --Tim May _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
Someone posted: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A special, secretive appeals court on Monday said the U.S. government has the right to use expanded powers to wiretap suspected terrorism suspects under a law adopted by Congress after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. So we not only have secret courts, we have secret appeals courts to reverse secret court decisions the government doesn't like. One wonders what one finds as one travels futher up the secret judiciary. Is there a secret Supreme Court too, which interprets the Secret Constitution for us? Fascinating stuff, I'm sure. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 10:31 AM, Elyn Wollensky wrote: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers 36 minutes ago WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A special, secretive appeals court on Monday said the U.S. government has the right to use expanded powers to wiretap suspected terrorism suspects under a law adopted by Congress after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Well, this is what you get with Star Chamber Government: not only are the actual specific _cases_ done with secret prosecutors, secret judges, secret panels, but the arguments over the underlying legal issues (which obviously cannot compromise a specific intelligence case and hence have no reason to be secret, even in Orwellian logic) are also secret. One wonders about secret rulings which have never been made public. Perhaps the Supreme Court also meets in secret and issues secret rulings. We have always been at war with Eastasia. Ignorance is strength. And to think some people think Timoth McVeigh was wrong in liquidating a military target. --Tim May
