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FROM: MRS. M SESE-SEKO ATTN: I AM MRS. MARIAM SESE-SEKO WIDOW OF LATE PRESIDENT MOBUTU SESE-SEKO OF ZAIRE? NOW KNOWN AS DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO (DRC). I AM MOVED TO WRITE YOU THIS LETTER, THIS WAS IN CONFIDENCE CONSIDERING MY PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCE AND SITUATION. I ESCAPED ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO OF OUR SONS TIMOTHY AND BASHER OUT OF DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO (DRC) TO ABIDJAN,COTE D'IVOIRE WHERE MY FAMILY AND I SETTLED, WHILE WE LATER MOVED TO SETTLED IN MORROCO WHERE MY HUSBAND LATER DIED OF CANCER DISEASE. HOWEVER DUE TO THIS SITUATION WE DECIDED TO CHANGED MOST OF MY HUSBAND'S BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEPOSITED IN SWISS BANK AND OTHER COUNTRIES INTO OTHER FORMS OF MONEY CODED FOR SAFE PURPOSE BECAUSE THE NEW HEAD OF STATE OF (DR) MR LAURENT KABILA HAS MADE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SWISS GOVERNMENT AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO FREEZE ALL MY LATE HUSBAND'TREASURES DEPOSITED IN SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. HENCE MY CHILDREN AND I DECIDED LAYING LOW IN AFRICA TO STUDY THE SITUATION TILL WHEN THINGS GETS BETTER, LIKE NOW THAT PRESIDENT KABILA IS DEAD AND THE SON TAKING OVER(JOSEPH KABILA). ONE OF MY LATE HUSBAND'S CHATEAUX IN SOUTHERN FRANCE WAS CONFISCATED BY THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT, AND AS SUCH I HAD TO CHANGE MY IDENTITY SO THAT MY INVESTMENT WILL NOT BE TRACED AND CONFISCATED. I HAVE DEPOSITED THE SUM OF THIRTY FIVE MLLION UNITED STATE DOLLARS (US$35,000,000,00.) WITH A SECURITY COMPANY , FOR SAFEKEEPING. THE FUNDS ARE SECURITY CODED TO PREVENT THEM FROM KNOWING THE CONTENT. WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS TO INDICATE YOUR INTEREST THAT YOU WILL ASSIST US BY RECEIVING THE MONEY ON OUR BEHALF IN EUROPE. I WANT YOU TO ASSIST IN INVESTING THIS MONEY, BUT I WILL NOT WANT MY IDENTITY REVEALED. I WILL ALSO WANT TO BUY PROPERTIES AND STOCK IN MULTI-NATIONAL COMPANIES AND TO ENGAGE IN OTHER SAFE AND NON-SPECULATIVE INVESTMENTS. MAY I AT THIS POINT EMPHASIS THE HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENTIALITY, WHICH THIS BUSINESS DEMANDS, AND HOPE YOU WILL NOT BETRAY THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE, WHICH I REPOSE IN YOU IN CONCLUSION, IN THE EVENT YOU ARE INTERESTED TO ASSIST US I WILL LIKE YOU TO CONTACT MY LAWYER WHO I HAVE STATIONED IN HOLLAND TO WITHNESS THE TRANSACTION TO IS CONCLUTION.YOU CAN REACH HIM ON IS DIRECT LINE WHICH IS +31-612-732-190 OR VIA MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] .HIS NAME IS ADAMS PHILLIP AND I HAVE THE FULL TRUST IN HIM. I SINCERELY WILL APPRECAITE YOUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BEST REGARDS, MRS M. SESE SEKO.
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...There's a lot of criticism that the open-source movement has been good at reproducing an existing environment--cloning Unix, cloning CDE (Common Desktop Environment), reverse-engineering Microsoft's SMB (Server Message Block) protocols. What are the new areas where the open-source community will lead the rest of the industry? We're definitely on the cutting edge with respect to security. The fact is, companies aren't spending as much on security as they know they should. My supposition is that the reason people are spending so little on security is because the existing proprietary platforms offer such poor security alternatives, meaning they're either not very secure or not easy to implement, or not easy to maintain, or not flexible or not compatible. The community that has had experience in making technology ubiquitous through open models is the community that's going to find and deliver security solutions that warrant responsible spending by IT organizations. So (Sun Microsystems') Solaris is less secure than Linux? People have reported on numerous occasions the cost differential between a proprietary system and a Linux-based system. People don't want to spend money on things that are considered too expensive. Even if Sun does have adequate security in one dimension, the overall commercial offering is just not very attractive compared to what the IT departments are demanding. How will the open-source community push security forward? There's a lot of work going on surrounding a development called Security-enhanced Linux. This has been adopted by the community. People are using Debian (a free operating system that uses the Linux kernel) as a base, then feeding that through and into and back from the community... FROM http://news.com.com/1200-1120-975441.html?tag=fd_ledelink Here's another for the killfile...23-year Marine veteran--and current Cisco Systems executive http://news.com.com/1200-1120-975423.html?tag=fd_ledelink One bullet for being a marine and another for Cisco,both to be charged to nearest kin. It will be a mercy killing because...Trusting technology to make cyberspace fully secure is a fantasy. B.Schneier and thats no bs.
Re: Build It Rolling Your Own Tivo (fwd)
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Bill Stewart wrote: At 11:38 PM 12/06/2002 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: You should have tried this back in the late 80's with a single frame VHS recorder and an Amiga Video Toaster...one frame at a time, thank god for AREXX ;) If you were actually using the Video Toaster, and not just the Amiga's CPU, you had what passed for a really hefty amount of CPU-equivalent back then, because the video crunching happened in the Toaster card, not in the Amiga itself. The Amiga had enough work to do just storing the compressed video onto a disk... Agreed, but the point argues to my point not against it. Thanks. -- We don't see things as they are, [EMAIL PROTECTED] we see them as we are. www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anais Nin www.open-forge.org
Re: Build It Rolling Your Own Tivo (fwd)
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Jamie Lawrence wrote: On Sat, 07 Dec 2002, Lucky Green wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that there are subscribers to this list that don't have Choate filtered. This must be some weird list to read without a Choate procmail filter... Yes, my mistake. I've seen Choate devolve from a strange actor to a net.loon, and I should have known better. I thought an off-list hint might help, and that was my mistake. I promise never again to venture into Choate Prime. Yada yada yada...I'm still waiting for a reference where Godel equates 'undecidable' to 'incomplete' -- We don't see things as they are, [EMAIL PROTECTED] we see them as we are. www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anais Nin www.open-forge.org
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Here's How You Can Attack America. Colonel Panic. Leverage is a word to conjure with,as a force multiplier it could move the planet. What does our mutual enemy fear most? How to combine a physical attack with a cyberattack. ...There has always been talk of dire attacks, such as digital Pearl Harbor. Do you think we will see something like that before we get secured, or can we move fast enough to secure the infrastructure? That's really hard to answer. You are basically asking me what keeps me up at night. And to answer that, I wouldn't say this is going to be the mother of all attacks. Who knows what they are going to try? You saw that even the attacks on the top-level domains didn't have much of an effect. I think they demonstrated the robustness and resiliency of the Internet in general. The worst threat is a combination of a physical attack and then a cyberattack that would disable the response. So if there was another horrendous bombing attack and then someone disabled 911 emergency responders or screwed with the traffic lights, that would be a pretty significant nightmare scenario... http://news.com.com/1200-1120-975423.html?tag=fd_ledelink What can liddle ol me do? Well you might be surprised. Remember how fucked up things get with a lot of false alarms? The USA is expecting a major attack soon,as a force multiplier par exellance,agent anthrax might chip in and thats where we come in. With the webphone,remailers and mobile/public secure terminals,false alarms can flood in from anywhere on the planet. Enough to bring the homeland security completly undone. They have to answer every emergency call.This may seem cold blooded but their own CIA put out this book* that justifies murder so turn about is only fair play. Poetic justice really.SAYONARA GLOBOCOP! * http://www.smog.net/curiosities/sabotage/index.php?aID=29 [no rats were harmed in the creation of this webpage.] http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=221702group=webcast
Transmission from the local systems.
BOYCOTT the DEATH STAR! Rebel Alliance. Terra Quadrant. Free citizens of the Galaxy are unwittingly supplying war materials to the evil empire. Some are,like IBM,FORD and Prescott Bush,trading with the enemy.They will be held accountable by Jedi assassins.Peaceful citizens of the Galaxy are urged to do whatever it takes to slow and stop the stormtroopers of the last evil empire. The fate of a peaceful planet and biilions of innocent lives may depend on individual actions combined.In fact it WILL depend on that.It's the final countdown. X-mass bombings have been forseen.Know this then that the end of all life here is not the beginning somewhere else. The singularity is the void is the abyss is the end,and what we all face now is the rael and dealy end of all time...unless. Diplomatic, juridical and military actions take effect. 1. The United Nations relocate its headquarters out of the northern hemisphere to a suitable venue, perhaps to one of the most impoverished nations in the world, certainly not to a so-called first world country. 2. Nations close U.S. embassies and consular offices in their territories. 3. Nations declare U.S. officials persona non grata and expel them. 4. Governments and international jurisdictions undertake massive indictments and prosecutions of C.I.A., F.B.I., State Department, U.S. military, etc. employees (present or former) who are or were engaged in promoting terrorist activities by the U.S. government or by other governments or paramilitary forces. 5. Nations deny use of their territory, territorial waters, and air space to U.S. military forces, and insist that the U.S. immediately relinquish and evacuate U.S. bases on their territory. Economic Actions 6. Oil-exporting nations place a total ban on oil (and natural gas) shipments to the U.S. and its colonies. 7. Nations close all branch offices of U.S. banks in their territories, and freeze all assets of U.S.-based financial, industrial, and commercial corporations in their territories. 8. Nations ban commercial activities with U.S.-based financial, industrial, and commercial corporations. The first global general strike is coming one day.That day may be sooner than the wardroids predict.The first Planetary revolution could be not far behind.This is the greatest test a world civilization can stand.I wish you all the best for dealing with it.LOVE.cp.for the RA and the local systems. http://site.www.umb.edu/faculty/salzman_g/Strategy/Discussion/2002-09-30CallToStopUS.html http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=221704group=webcast
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Please God make America collapse. (arabic) M.Attar. Yes it is I.The one who caused you pain unto death speaks to you now from Paradise.I was enjoying it so much its hard to turn away,yet... It is time for prayers. 'Please God, make America collapse' uploaded 08 Dec 2002 Mohammad Fadal al-Samarai, a Muslim cleric in central Baghdad, left his congregation in no doubt yesterday about how they should assess mounting US pressure on Iraq. Please God keep us safe from the betrayal of the infidel country, and keep them fighting each other, he said as he led the Friday prayers in the Saadeia al-Omari mosque in the smart Mansour district. Please God make America collapse. Please God destroy the Jews. He did not have to make explicit mention of the crucial moment today when the Iraqi government will hand over to the UN what ought to be a currently accurate, full and complete declaration of its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programmes. Every Iraqi gathered in the crowded mosque, like most across the country, was fully aware just how close they are to a potentially devastating war with America. Most, in public at least, appear to share Dr Samarai's bitter frustration and anger. Please God give us martyrdom but keep us strong on the day of battle, Dr Samarai said. The cleric's words found a receptive audience in the households of Mansour. Dr Samarai is a widely respected religious leader, a man with a doctorate in economics, who frequently illustrates his religious teachings with reams of statistics. His congregation is largely middle class, comprising those who have perhaps suffered most from 12 years of UN sanctions. It includes men such as Ahmed Riad, a doctor who speaks flawless English and who was deeply impressed by his cleric's words. Once, this country was rich, he said. We had roads, schools, hospitals, the best health system in the region. Iraq became a serious worry because the US wants Israel to be the strongest country in the Middle East. Now they tell us we can't run our country and they want to run it for us. Is this fair? Dr Riad said he felt US foreign policy had become a personal assault on the Arab and Muslim world, a refrain now common across the Middle East. It is not true that we are terrorists because we are Muslims, he said. We are all brothers in religion, followers of God. A recent Gallup poll found that one in two Americans believes in extrasensory perception. Fifty-four percent believe in psychic or spiritual healing so I hope your channeling a little of this...God IS Great. The youths of world Jihad are preparing for you things that would fill your hearts with terror and target your economic lifeline until you stop your oppression and aggression.It is still difficult to measure the impact that the events of Sept. 11, 2001, had on the U.S. economy. What is undeniable is that the attacks shook the U.S. and global economies, and that lesson may be taken to heart,capitalism can be destroyed by capitalists.The United States government is terrified of the growing movement for global justice. It's not just in this country, it's all over the world.They understand that their previously unchallenged power is no longer going to be unchallenged. Similar to what happened in Vietnam...although different, more intense in a way that I still can't comprehend. All I do know is that their imperialist order is being threatened like no other time in U.S. history and I think they're beginning to understand it and they're about to panic. I despise you. I despise your order, your laws, your force-propped authority.M.Attar. A shadowy figure in a terrorist group has encouraged armed fighters to target American interests and to extort, kidnap and murder American citizens. The United States has declared war, he said in a radio message to armed freedom fighters Our obligation is to fight them.Anyone who destroys American interests, consulates, all missionary organisations, McDonald's, KFC, Shell or Caltex petrol pumps or American Express, or anyone who cuts off the head of an American, you will be given complete protection and a special place in paradise. Hassan-I-Sabbah also lives. . . the only spiritual leader with anything to say in the Space Age. http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=221708group=webcast
Not as simple as it looks - Re: Build It Rolling Your Own Tivo(fwd)
An example from my day yesterday... I have two 'cheap boxes', one from nation wide chain store (who sells things other than high tech and appliances, a wall to wall mart if you will) and one from a local Austin vendor. The behavior was checked against multiple instances of boxes so we know it isn't a single bad box. Each machine has all the normal stuff, 1G of RAM, 2x80G HD. They also include an AGP video card, PCI video capture card (no tuner, commercial quality board), and a PCI 10/100M Ethernet. Running under Linux using various Open Source tools. We used different AGP and network cards to verify brand dependence. Different brand board for AGP or network made no difference. We couldn't try different video capture boards due to cost, we had a single board. One of the boxes works fine. The other drops frames if the network traffic gets too high or you really push the video board. It doesn't drop much, down to about 27fps from 30fps, but it drops. And at the same time you get digital aliasing [1], which is the real killer. Pull the AGP or network (usually the network because we like the pretty pictures) and all is fine (though w/o network it's a little annoying). Why? The interrupt controller on the slower box isn't up to it. I have a similar project under Plan 9 where I'm trying to take four of these cheap-ass television cards in a cheap-ass box and export them into a namespace so you could at least in principle watch television from just about anywhere. The video frame is limited to 320x200 (for several reasons I won't go into here). And those babies drop frames for this same reason. I will grant that video support on Plan 9 is down right pre-historic so some improvement may be gleaned from re-doing that (I hope so or else we'll drop this as infeasible at this level of tech). So, no, setting up a -quality- video capture system isn't easy or mundane on expensive systems and certainly not cheap boxes. But then again, you may not even notice the aliasing or dropped frames. That you don't notice the jitter or blocky display speaks to you, not the technology. Which is -not- to say it can't be done, I see from 3-5 of these sorts of systems a month built that work fine. But it does take time and effort, it is -not- plug and play. Also be prepared to tweak the television drivers for Linux since they are seldom optimal. [1] This is that 'blockish' effect you will see on a lot of television shows now because a lot of them are moving to non-linear video editor suites, it occurs when the conversion process stalls a bit in frame. It comes from the machine not being able to keep up and update the field completely so you'll get the even or odd field but not both. Clouds are a really good place to look for this effect. -- We don't see things as they are, [EMAIL PROTECTED] we see them as we are. www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anais Nin www.open-forge.org
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On Sunday, December 8, 2002, at 09:26 AM, Steve Schear wrote: At 06:19 PM 12/8/2002 +0200, you wrote: Errata: companies are forbidden from accepting them as payment is, of course, companies are REQUIRED TO accept them as payment. Sorry. Mark - Original Message - From: Marcel Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason the IOUs emitted by the Bank of England were *initially* accepted was that they were redeemable in gold or silver. *One* reason they are now accepted is that they are legal tender - you can pay your taxes with them, and companies are forbidden from accepting them as payment. I seem to recall there are still provisions in the statutes for contracts to be fulfilled by whatever therms are spelled out. For example, if a contract requires that you deliver pork bellies, you cannot merely substitute the cash value of the porkers. Mark cited the Bank of England, not U.S. law. I don't know what British law is in this regard. But I will tell you that the notion that U.S. dollars must be accepted as payment in the U.S. (using the variant that corrects Mark's typographical error above) is false. The language is along the lines of this note good for all debts public and private. This does not stop parties from agreeing to transfers in yak brains, or houses, or gold, or tantalum. It says that if Alice agrees to pay Bob 50 dollars ($50), with no special payment instructions agreed to, and Alice at some point gives Bob a $50 piece of U.S. currency, she has fulfilled her debt obligation under U.S. law. I surmise, but have not verified, that this sort of language was added to banknotes to better ensure that people accepted the banknotes as being equivalent to specie (gold and silver). --Tim May Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity. --Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: DBCs now issued by DMT
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: I too admit of having done some imbibing (Belgian ale I'm afraid). Belgian beer is pretty good, in Belgium anyway. How's it travel? First of all, I see no deep reason why some bank acount (or, more likely, a whole bunch of 'em) can't be auto-administered like a simple mini bank. It would be auto-administered via the votes of its owners, who have never met, and who are unaware of the real names of the other owners. Owners vote to lend money out of this account to whomever. Like Bail bondsmen :-) You don't show up in court, you got more than cops on your tail Needless to say, since this account is tied to one or more denominations, it could eventually be shutdown through the concerted actions of various governments. But the mechanisms of such a bank are (I think) independent of the possibility of reliability of a future digital currency. (And of course, there's a lot such a bank could do before getting shut down.) I don't think they'd really care as long as *they* printed the currency originally. If you invent your own bits and don't tie it to anything, and it actually gets believed into reality, that'd be an interesting phenomena. So if you collect real cash, (what ever real means...) and ship bits based on it, no government is going to care since they created it in the first place. Many companies issue their own cash, which is only redeemable in their stores. It starts from the local governments cash tho, so nobody cares. The tough thing (or perhaps not..someone here must surely know) is the possibility of lending money to persons who are unidentified in meatspace. (But then again, even in the non-Cyber world, 'meatspace' is very rarely an issue when lending money...it all boils down to credit records anyway...) I'm gonna have to stock up on scotch. Usually you need some kind of hold on the lendee (see bail bondsman above). A meatspace hold works best :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
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Re: DBCs now issued by DMT
I too admit of having done some imbibing (Belgian ale I'm afraid). I was thinking about this on the heels of your last lubricated missive, and a very similar thing occurred to me. Actually, something far less ambitious (in the short run)... First of all, I see no deep reason why some bank acount (or, more likely, a whole bunch of 'em) can't be auto-administered like a simple mini bank. It would be auto-administered via the votes of its owners, who have never met, and who are unaware of the real names of the other owners. Owners vote to lend money out of this account to whomever. As for the administration, well that's 'obviously' handled by a proxy program somewhere, that translates the votes into actual decisions about the account (including loan amount, interest rate, debt-to-liquidity ratio and so on). Needless to say, since this account is tied to one or more denominations, it could eventually be shutdown through the concerted actions of various governments. But the mechanisms of such a bank are (I think) independent of the possibility of reliability of a future digital currency. (And of course, there's a lot such a bank could do before getting shut down.) The tough thing (or perhaps not..someone here must surely know) is the possibility of lending money to persons who are unidentified in meatspace. (But then again, even in the non-Cyber world, 'meatspace' is very rarely an issue when lending money...it all boils down to credit records anyway...) But do we need a bank? I'd guess we need an issuer, but why can't it be a distributed issuer without central control (or even distributed control?)? Can't the protocol deal with the problem of issue? (We'd have to write a damn good one, of course) -- Peter Fairbrother bear wrote: On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Peter Fairbrother wrote: OK, suppose we've got a bank that issues bearer money. Who owns the bank? It should be owned by bearer shares, of course. Can any clever person here devise such a protocol? I thought about this problem for several months. The problem I kept running into and had no way around is that if the holders are truly anonymous, then there is no way for them to seek redress for fraudulent issue or fraudulent transactions. If the banker goes broke, people want to be able to make a claim against the banker's future earnings for whatever worthless currency they were holding when it happened, and they cannot do that from a position of anonymity. People want a faithless banker punished, meaning jail time or hard labor, not just burning a nym. The sole method for any truly anonymous currency to acquire value is for the banker to promise to redeem it for something that has value. So the banker, if it's to have a prayer of acceptance, cannot be anonymous. And the minute the banker's not anonymous, the whole system is handed on a platter to the civil authorities and banking laws and so on, and then no part of the system can be reliably anonymous because the entire infrastructure of our legal system requires identity. Look at the possibilities for conflict resolution. How can the anonymous holder of an issued currency prove that he's the beneficiary to the issuer's promise to redeem, without the banker's cooperation and without compromising his/her anonymity? And if s/he succeeded in proving it, who could force an anonymous banker to pay up? And if you succeeded in making the banker pay up, how could the banker prove without the cooperation of the payee that the payment was made and made to the correct payee? We use a long-accepted fiat currency, so we're not used to thinking about the nitty-gritty details that money as an infrastructure requires. It is hidden from us because our currency infrastructure has not broken down in living memory. We shifted from privately issued currency to government-issued currency largely without destabilizing the economy. Then once people were accustomed to not thinking of a promise to redeem as being the source of value, we went off the gold standard. Our economy hasn't broken yet, but you have to realize that this situation is a little bizarre from the point of view of currency issue. We're not thinking anymore about the promise to redeem currency for something of value, and the implications of failure to honor that promise, because we live in a sheltered and mildly bizarre moment in history where those things haven't been relevant for a long time to the currency we use most. But any new currency would have to have a good solid solution for that issue. The only way I found to decentralize the system, at all, was the model where all the actors are pseudonymous rather than anonymous, each user has the power to issue currency, and different issued currencies were allowed to fluctuate in value against each other depending on the degree of trust or value of the underlying redemption commodity. Money becomes a protocol and a commodity
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RE: How to Stop Telemarketers...
Adam Stenseth wrote: Just for my own edification, does this apply to landline service as well(or other government-sanctioned monopolies)? For example, are your calling habits and landline number assets of your phone company? Many of them seem to think so. Yes, they are. Just as the details of your credit card transactions are the property of the credit card company. Which is why your detailed transaction records, including your name, are available for sale from your credit company to anybody that wants to buy thousands of them. --Lucky
Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...
Technological solutions are preferable over statist solutions (which don't usually even work, as the statists write the rules and exempt themselves and their friends). Ya know Tim May, you say a lotta crazy shit but every now and then you say something that really makes some sense. (Suspiciously like Choate...) _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!
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RE: Build It Rolling Your Own Tivo (fwd)
Jamie Lawrence wrote: Jim, you post enough crap from Slashdot to know differently. People are doing it. I have a whitebox machine (AMD, 256M ram, cheap TV card, 20G disk, $300 a year ago) that does it. It isn't a big deal. Speaking of posting crap...and don't send me private email. Don't worry about me sending private email in the future... You're not only a complete idiot, but you're rude as fuck as well. It never ceases to amaze me that there are subscribers to this list that don't have Choate filtered. This must be some weird list to read without a Choate procmail filter... --Lucky, who probably should go back to filtering on Choate in the body text of emails, not just in the headers. I didn't even need to see that email.
Re: Build It Rolling Your Own Tivo (fwd)
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Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Lucky Green wrote: Harmon Seaver wrote: Tim mentioned cell phones and the lack of telemarketing calls on his, but really that's only because, at this point at least, the cellphone number lists haven't been sold. This might change in the near future, as several wireless providers have been considering selling their subscriber lists. It's hard to see how they could do this, however, since, unlike landline calls -- annoying enough -- spam calls to your cellphone would cost *you* money. Given this fact, one wonders why the cell phone providers have not yet made the list available for download by anybody. Well, they'll figure it out in due time. Someone will, but as an act of vengeance against their bosses. Or a rival cellphone company that doesn't charge for incoming calls (airtime) and hence have no incentive to promote incoming calls. Why this counterintuitive effect? The golden goose effect. If customers of Sprint or Verizon, etc., are being bombarded by incoming spam calls, some of them will switch off their phones completely, will switch to services with no incoming call fees, or, in some cases, will stop using cellphones altogether. (And some fraction will call their cellphone companies and demand their number be changed, make threats, cause PR hassles, etc.) This makes it unwise for anyone to leak the numbers...unless they wish to embarass the companies or drive business to no-incoming-fees providers. --Tim May Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now racing down, with American flags fluttering.-- Tim May, on events following 9/11/2001
Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel
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Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 06:20:02PM -0800, Lucky Green wrote: Harmon Seaver wrote: Tim mentioned cell phones and the lack of telemarketing calls on his, but really that's only because, at this point at least, the cellphone number lists haven't been sold. This might change in the near future, as several wireless providers have been considering selling their subscriber lists. It's hard to see how they could do this, however, since, unlike landline calls -- annoying enough -- spam calls to your cellphone would cost *you* money. Given this fact, one wonders why the cell phone providers have not yet made the list available for download by anybody. Well, they'll figure it out in due time. Why would they do that, any more than the landlines would release unpublished numbers, since that's what cell numbers are now? And I'm sure there would be tremendous demand for them to a) not charge for incoming calls, or b) start filtering for spammers. But I imagine there'd be no small number (or rather a large class action) of suits for releasing unpublished numbers if the cell company did it deliberately. And if it were leaked, they'd just be forced to change them all. I seriously doubt very many would put up with having their precious minutes wasted by spammers. Especially those who have already given up their landlines altogether to be rid of the hassles. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Not as simple as it looks - Re: Build It Rolling Your Own Tivo(fwd)
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Re: Build It Rolling Your Own Tivo (fwd)
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Jamie Lawrence wrote: On Sat, 07 Dec 2002, Lucky Green wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that there are subscribers to this list that don't have Choate filtered. This must be some weird list to read without a Choate procmail filter... Yes, my mistake. I've seen Choate devolve from a strange actor to a net.loon, and I should have known better. I thought an off-list hint might help, and that was my mistake. I promise never again to venture into Choate Prime. Yada yada yada...I'm still waiting for a reference where Godel equates 'undecidable' to 'incomplete' -- We don't see things as they are, [EMAIL PROTECTED] we see them as we are. www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anais Nin www.open-forge.org
Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel
jet wrote: At 20:48 -0500 2002/12/07, Myers W. Carpenter wrote: http://www.2600.com/news/display/display.shtml?id=1441 PHOTOGRAPHER ARRESTED FOR TAKING PICTURES OF VICE PRESIDENT'S HOTEL Posted 5 Dec 2002 06:03:48 UTC One major issue is these days, the laws have become so incredibly complicated that the average citizen isn't confident in their knowledge of the law, let alone most that enforce it. They know that the average citizen is going to want to 'do the right thing' and comply with any requests, whether or not any laws were broken. And let's face it, even if you or I know our rights to the letter it doesn't make a bit of difference until after the fact in a courtoom. Police generally won't sit and debate with you about it on the spot.
