Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 11:34, Jack Lloyd wrote: Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. I voted for Cthulhu -- why vote for the lesser of two evils? http://www.cthulhu.org/
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 11:31]: : What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I : Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya?
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Damian Gerow wrote: Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors. Yeah so what? I still wouldn't want to vote for him (except as a vote against Shrubbya) Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. See Megadeth's Hook in Mouth for details on this censorious organization: http://www.songlyrics4u.com/megadeth/hook-in-mouth.html and http://www.geocities.com/fireace_00/pmrc.html for details about the PMRC.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. Wasn't there something close a few years ago? I remember a write-in campaign to get Unabomber Ted Kascinsky elected as President. -TD From: Jack Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:34:39 -0400 On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? AFAIK most local/state elections have even lower turnout than the recent ones for the prez. Anyway, you could always have voted for Nader/Brown/Tim May/etc. Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:58, sunder wrote: Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. And, like all statists, they went widely astray of their goals. Frank Zappa's _Jazz from Hell_ got a Tipper Sticker, indicating obscene lyrics. They didn't notice that _JfH_ was an instrumental album.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya?
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? AFAIK most local/state elections have even lower turnout than the recent ones for the prez. Anyway, you could always have voted for Nader/Brown/Tim May/etc. Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 11:31]: : What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I : Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Damian Gerow wrote: Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors. Yeah so what? I still wouldn't want to vote for him (except as a vote against Shrubbya) Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. See Megadeth's Hook in Mouth for details on this censorious organization: http://www.songlyrics4u.com/megadeth/hook-in-mouth.html and http://www.geocities.com/fireace_00/pmrc.html for details about the PMRC.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. Wasn't there something close a few years ago? I remember a write-in campaign to get Unabomber Ted Kascinsky elected as President. -TD From: Jack Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:34:39 -0400 On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? AFAIK most local/state elections have even lower turnout than the recent ones for the prez. Anyway, you could always have voted for Nader/Brown/Tim May/etc. Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:58, sunder wrote: Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. And, like all statists, they went widely astray of their goals. Frank Zappa's _Jazz from Hell_ got a Tipper Sticker, indicating obscene lyrics. They didn't notice that _JfH_ was an instrumental album.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:28:07PM +0100, Graham Lally wrote: Current report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3641419.stm The tech: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3493474.stm Bit scant on details.. anyone know anything more about how the machine (/system) is fully tamper-proof? The system they are using has been proven tamper-proof by strong assertion. This method of security proof is used around the world for protecting all kinds of systems. Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. -Jack
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:28:07PM +0100, Graham Lally wrote: Current report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3641419.stm The tech: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3493474.stm Bit scant on details.. anyone know anything more about how the machine (/system) is fully tamper-proof? The system they are using has been proven tamper-proof by strong assertion. This method of security proof is used around the world for protecting all kinds of systems. Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. -Jack
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
At 06:48 PM 4/11/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3611227.stm By the year 2010, file-sharers could be swapping news rather than music, eliminating censorship of any kind. This is the view of the man who helped kickstart the concept of peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing, Cambridge University's Professor Ross Anderson. Well duh. KaZaa carries news film clips that the media don't transmit. So does ogrish.com, but ogrish is not distributed and its name servers are run by the State of course. And then there's the indymedia (again, single point of failure) sites. There are censorship and authentication issues, of course, its hardly novel. 'Impossible to censor' To enable this, Prof Anderson proposes a new and improved version of Usenet, the internet news service. If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down First, that flavor of erotica is not well defined. E.g., A picture of one of your 15 year old wives? Your legally emancipated 16 year old lover? Second, Anderson, who should know better, forgets about stego.
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
Eugen Leitl pastes: File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down Ross Anderson, Cambridge University I think the problem here is that material which John Ashcroft, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson think is wicked, may not be what Ross Anderson or I think is wicked. After all, to some people Howard Stern is disgusting and obscene. To others, he is merely witty and slightly burlesque. Prof Anderson believes those fears are overstated. He argued that web watchdogs like the Internet Watch Foundation, which monitors internet-based child abuse, would provide the necessary policing functions. Well, it's good to know Professor Anderson values the opinion of an organization that won't even use the term child pornography to refer to the things that offend Ashcroft, Falwell, and Robertson, but demands everyone use terms like pictures of children being abused and child abuse pictures. As those who flog the Sex Abuse Agenda are well aware, 90% of successful propaganda is owning the vocabulary. I am reminded of the changing of the term statutory rape to child rape a few years ago, which I am sure we will all agree is a less than accurate description of a 20 year old who has consensual sex with a streetwise 17 year old crack whore. I think Hakin Bey's suggestion that plastering pictures of naked children everywhere is a great form of political theatre has merit. All the right wing crackpots will have to hide in their homes to avoid having strokes, and the well-balanced representatives of the Forces of Reason can finally live their lives in peace and quiet. Perhaps we can have Public Service Announcements by the Coalition for a Prude-Free AmeriKKKa. This is Timmy. This is TImmy's cock. This is Timmy's cock in Billy's mouth. Any questions? -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
Eugen Leitl pastes: File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down Ross Anderson, Cambridge University I think the problem here is that material which John Ashcroft, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson think is wicked, may not be what Ross Anderson or I think is wicked. After all, to some people Howard Stern is disgusting and obscene. To others, he is merely witty and slightly burlesque. Prof Anderson believes those fears are overstated. He argued that web watchdogs like the Internet Watch Foundation, which monitors internet-based child abuse, would provide the necessary policing functions. Well, it's good to know Professor Anderson values the opinion of an organization that won't even use the term child pornography to refer to the things that offend Ashcroft, Falwell, and Robertson, but demands everyone use terms like pictures of children being abused and child abuse pictures. As those who flog the Sex Abuse Agenda are well aware, 90% of successful propaganda is owning the vocabulary. I am reminded of the changing of the term statutory rape to child rape a few years ago, which I am sure we will all agree is a less than accurate description of a 20 year old who has consensual sex with a streetwise 17 year old crack whore. I think Hakin Bey's suggestion that plastering pictures of naked children everywhere is a great form of political theatre has merit. All the right wing crackpots will have to hide in their homes to avoid having strokes, and the well-balanced representatives of the Forces of Reason can finally live their lives in peace and quiet. Perhaps we can have Public Service Announcements by the Coalition for a Prude-Free AmeriKKKa. This is Timmy. This is TImmy's cock. This is Timmy's cock in Billy's mouth. Any questions? -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
Harmon Seaver (2004-04-11 20:05Z) wrote: This is insane -- on what basis, under what Constitutional authority, does the state get to decide that the christer marriage vows are sacred and legal, and a pagan or indig taking to wife isn't? This is one nation under God (the Christian God), or haven't you noticed? If the Christian Right thinks God doesn't like something, it's not Constitutionally protected. -- You took my gun. It's just your word against mine! Not necessarily. -Bernie vs Tom, Miller's Crossing
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: As those who flog the Sex Abuse Agenda are well aware, 90% of successful propaganda is owning the vocabulary. I am reminded of the changing of the term statutory rape to child rape a few years ago, which I am sure we will all agree is a less than accurate description of a 20 year old who has consensual sex with a streetwise 17 year old crack whore. Or even his 17 year old virgin girlfriend. I really have a hard time understanding how we reached this point -- it wasn't even 100 years ago when girls of 17 were considered in danger of becoming old maids if they weren't married already. In fact, when I was growing up, the legal age for marriage in Mississippi was 12 for girls and 14 for boys, with parents permission. Without, it was 14 and 16. Many, many states had similar laws. And, in fact, back then at least one state, Maryland IIRC, had a statutory rape age of 8. So, while on the one hand, more young teens are having sex fairly openly, and at younger and younger ages, even in preteen, some as young as 10 from what I read in the press; the laws are becoming more and more repressive. And not just the law, also the prosecutors -- in Racine, WI a month or so ago it was announced that prosecutors had charged a girl and boy, both 15, with having sex with a child -- each other. WTF is going on? What else is this but religious oppression? Look, I can marry a girl (with parents okay) on her 16th birthday here in WI, but if I just have her come live with me, I could spend probably most of the rest of my life in prison. This is insane -- on what basis, under what Constitutional authority, does the state get to decide that the christer marriage vows are sacred and legal, and a pagan or indig taking to wife isn't? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!
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Justin wrote: This is one nation under God (the Christian God), or haven't you noticed? If the Christian Right thinks God doesn't like something, it's not Constitutionally protected. Even worse, I've once heard a coworker explain to me why Bush doesn't give a rats ass about the environment: just like the impromptu pilots who learned how to fly, but not land, Bush and Crew believe that this world is theirs to do with as they wish, and that pollution isn't important - so what if thousands die of cancer, so long as they earn a place in their idea paradise. Yes, between the flat-earther's, witch burners, jihadists, and other nuts, religion certain has had a wonderful influence on humanity.
Re: bbc
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: Did the IRA bomb the BBC newserver or something? They've been down for two days now. There has certainly been no interruption in service in the UK; I look at it daily. However, news.bbc.co.uk is not one machine. The BBC has at least two clusters of servers, one at Telehouse in London and the other in Telehouse America in New York. When I was providing services to the BBC (up until about 18 months ago), these server farms were connected by a private circuit, enabling the NY site to mirror the UK site. Custom DNS software looked at where you were (by IP address) and then gave you an IP address in either London or New York, depending on whether you connected through the London Internet exchange. What's most likely is that someone along the way has tried to be clever with caching/proxying and in effect has broken your connection. -- Jim Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +44 117 982 0786 mobile +44 797 373 7881
Re: bbc
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 03:01:01PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: Did the IRA bomb the BBC newserver or something? They've been down for two days now. There has certainly been no interruption in service in the UK; I look at it daily. However, news.bbc.co.uk is not one machine. The BBC has at least two clusters of servers, one at Telehouse in London and the other in Telehouse America in New York. When I was providing services to the BBC (up until about 18 months ago), these server farms were connected by a private circuit, enabling the NY site to mirror the UK site. Custom DNS software looked at where you were (by IP address) and then gave you an IP address in either London or New York, depending on whether you connected through the London Internet exchange. What's most likely is that someone along the way has tried to be clever with caching/proxying and in effect has broken your connection. Must be something like that -- weird tho. I can get to news.bbc.co.uk just fine, but the one I'd been using for a long, long time on a daily basis, www.bbc.uk.com, just disappeared. Oh well. Makes me wonder tho, about who/what the sites actually are that we go to -- maybe nothing is as it seems. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Last I knew, TiVo ran a customized Linux base OS, the source of most of which was publicly available. The recording app is proprietary, though, I think. modified linux kernel + some other bits for booting. Anything interesting is probably proprietary. sources available from http://www.tivo.com/linux -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 0:24 -0700 2002/06/02, Marc wrote: To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. ...and they did this at the request of the BBC who paid them to do it. yeesh. I don't think anyone came out of this looking good. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. making it easier to bypass paying for service than it is on the TiVo, just activate the right tier and presto, UTV service. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 0:24 -0700 2002/06/02, Marc wrote: To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. ...and they did this at the request of the BBC who paid them to do it. yeesh. I don't think anyone came out of this looking good. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. making it easier to bypass paying for service than it is on the TiVo, just activate the right tier and presto, UTV service. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. All the normal promotional aspects apply: It won't be recorded if it conflicts with a scheduled recording, it can be aborted if you're watching live tv at the time, it appears on the 'front page' of the menu, not with the other shows, and it's generally recorded in the dead of night keeping conflicts at a minimum. You can argue that they shouldn't be selling promotional ads on the TiVo, but that's going to fall into the mess of the reality that these things do in fact subsidize the hardware and software updates, at least for now. As for outgoing information, TiVo units are powerpc linux systems, and fairly easy to get a shell on the standalone units. They can be modified with a fair bit of unix knowledge to stop the logging, and verified by modem snooping or if setup to use broadband by just sniffing the network at the time the transfer occurs. DirecTiVo units are harder to get a shell, but can be modified to never call home at all. However such modification is the same modification to get the TiVo 'subscription' for free. If done, it also stops promotional recordings. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. I don't know if it does promotional recordings now, but the OS can be updated off the stream so it could start doing so at any time. I think it has an inferior UI. For an open source PVR, probably the easiest way would be to rip anything not GPL from the TiVo and start from there. PC style setups exist in both Linux and Windows but suffer from system size and poor remote control integration.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 3:08 pm -0700 1/6/02, jet wrote: However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. And adult material available to children before the watershed? And whilst the programme was being recorded the instant live replay facility was lost as the machine was recording spam. f
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 10:39 am -0700 1/6/02, Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] There is a commercial Windows package that does the same thing - circa $50, written in Edinburgh, called showshifter. They give you a choice of ways to access schedules that you buy seperately ie Digiguide so you can't be hijacked. http://www.showshifter.com/ f
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Steve Schear wrote: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders But viewers in the UK were surprised this week to find that the second episode of the little-known BBC sitcom Dossa and Joe had been recorded without their knowledge and added to the system's main menu screen. Hmmm. My Tivo didn't record it. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. - Robert Woodruff
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. All the normal promotional aspects apply: It won't be recorded if it conflicts with a scheduled recording, it can be aborted if you're watching live tv at the time, it appears on the 'front page' of the menu, not with the other shows, and it's generally recorded in the dead of night keeping conflicts at a minimum. You can argue that they shouldn't be selling promotional ads on the TiVo, but that's going to fall into the mess of the reality that these things do in fact subsidize the hardware and software updates, at least for now. As for outgoing information, TiVo units are powerpc linux systems, and fairly easy to get a shell on the standalone units. They can be modified with a fair bit of unix knowledge to stop the logging, and verified by modem snooping or if setup to use broadband by just sniffing the network at the time the transfer occurs. DirecTiVo units are harder to get a shell, but can be modified to never call home at all. However such modification is the same modification to get the TiVo 'subscription' for free. If done, it also stops promotional recordings. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. I don't know if it does promotional recordings now, but the OS can be updated off the stream so it could start doing so at any time. I think it has an inferior UI. For an open source PVR, probably the easiest way would be to rip anything not GPL from the TiVo and start from there. PC style setups exist in both Linux and Windows but suffer from system size and poor remote control integration.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, at 03:08 PM, jet wrote: They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. If TiVO works the same basic way my UltimateTV (Sony/DirectTV) works, having Bubba and Ram Dass, or whatever, always in my list of recorded shows for a week would be a massive annoyance. You said you worked for TiVo, as I recall. I suggest you point out to your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee growing irritation, hacks to permanently interfere with TIVo's spam recordings, the Bubba and Doss show being unfavorably smeared by angry TiVO customers, and even a grass roots campaign to monkeywrench TiVO in general. By the way, so far my Ultimate TV hasn't tried any such Big Brother tricks on me. Though they may have their own corporate clowns looking for revenue enhancement. Downloaded ads that play before every recorded show can be viewed. Schemes to disable fast-forwarding through commercials. --Tim May The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of. -- Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Tim May wrote: your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee Everything has unintended consequences, the Law is spin doctor bullshit. -- When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Tim May wrote: your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee Everything has unintended consequences, the Law is spin doctor bullshit. -- When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, at 03:08 PM, jet wrote: They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. If TiVO works the same basic way my UltimateTV (Sony/DirectTV) works, having Bubba and Ram Dass, or whatever, always in my list of recorded shows for a week would be a massive annoyance. You said you worked for TiVo, as I recall. I suggest you point out to your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee growing irritation, hacks to permanently interfere with TIVo's spam recordings, the Bubba and Doss show being unfavorably smeared by angry TiVO customers, and even a grass roots campaign to monkeywrench TiVO in general. By the way, so far my Ultimate TV hasn't tried any such Big Brother tricks on me. Though they may have their own corporate clowns looking for revenue enhancement. Downloaded ads that play before every recorded show can be viewed. Schemes to disable fast-forwarding through commercials. --Tim May The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of. -- Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789
Re: Blair accidently sells the roads (was Re: BBC article: Vehicles 'tracked')
note that it didn't eliminate the economies of scale of network operation there is still massive investment required in things like fiber. some amount of the current pricing could possibly be an overbuilt over-invested infrastructure ... some number of operations going bankrupt ... and then some amount of the infrastructure available on a pricing structure that doesn't require full ROI recovery of the original investment (i.e. written off). the electronics revolution moved some amount of the economies of scale into multi-billion dollar fabrication plants that have to be written off every 3-5 years and new ones built at possible 2-3 times the cost of the previous generation. In some sense, the massive investment in the enabling infrastructure has led to fewer, much more massive operations that are required to support the massive cost reductions in other areas. also, much of this is disruptive technology ... either because of technology itself and/or the second order effects of infrastructure cost reduction ... which would tend to have a distabelizing effects on operations that had reached some sort of stabilized equilibrium under earlier cost/price paradigms. One question might be is the choatic nature of the players in hese market segments a permanent feature or a temporary transition phase as infrastructure attempts to re-establish some equilibrium after significant disruptive influence? past ref: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsmail.htm#law dbts: More on law vs economics [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 2/24/2002 7:44 am wrote: The resulting exponential drop in the price of switching completely inverted the economies of scale of network operation, changing its very structure from an increasingly larger, more unified hierarchy with exactly one fixed-price circuit-switched route from any two nodes to a massively geodesic network with a combinatorical number of routes between any two nodes, each route with its own possible auction price depending on latency, noise, and lots of other factors. The result was a dramatic reduction in transaction cost, price discovery, market entry, and of course firm size, and ultimately a dramatic increase in the number of phone companies, even vertically integrated ones, and we haven't even started cash-settlement of network bandwidth yet. (The paradox, of course, is that every information worker who sits in front of a microcomputer to work these days, sizeably more than half the female population -- even a MacDonald's cashier -- is doing exactly what a turn-of-the-20th-century telephone operator does, reprocessing and routing information from one part of the network to another.)
Re: Blair accidently sells the roads (was Re: BBC article: Vehicles 'tracked')
On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 09:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, much of this is disruptive technology ... either because of technology itself and/or the second order effects of infrastructure cost reduction ... which would tend to have a distabelizing effects on operations that had reached some sort of stabilized equilibrium under earlier cost/price paradigms. One question might be is the choatic nature Shouldn't there be an e in choatic? --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
Blair accidently sells the roads (was Re: BBC article: Vehicles 'tracked')
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 11:58 AM + on 2/24/02, Graham Lally wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1838000/1838185.stm For those on the left side of the pond, road pricing has been big issue in Britain, started by libertarian conservatives in the dawn of the Lady Maggy era, and now hijacked by erst-totalitarian socialists in political era when nobody admits to have ever been a Tory. I expect, nonetheless, that if BritGov attempts to do road-pricing with centralized book-entry transactions and GPS transponders, instead of with a simple digital bearer cash toll system, such a system would choke, just like the original proposal to have central automated control of the Bay Area's BART system falls down, even now, 30 years after they tried it originally. If such a top-down, positive control system did work, however, it would probably still create an infrastructure where the adoption of a streaming bearer cash toll structure would so undercut the installed system on transaction cost that it would be cheaper to literally sell the roads to the abutters in the long run -- resulting the the fulfillment of that long-standing libertarian wet-dream, selling the roads. So, totalitarians, and transportation bluenoses and busybodies should be careful of what they wish for. For an example of that, remember what happened to telephony. The industry demanded from the state a Morganized monopoly to prevent ruinous competition. In exchange for same, the various local political machines controlling the nation-state required universal service to keep the mob from voting them out of office, and to create a larger pool of depositors in the political favor-bank. It took a quite a while, but the creation of a so-called natural monopoly eventually backfired on both of them. Universal service required automated switching to prevent requiring a significant percentage of the population (half of all females was the apocryphal statistic) from becoming telephone operators. As a result, electromechanical switching (rotary dial) begat electronic switching (touch-tone; Shockley invented the transistor for the phone company, remember?), which, in turn, begat microprocessor switching and Moore's Law. The resulting exponential drop in the price of switching completely inverted the economies of scale of network operation, changing its very structure from an increasingly larger, more unified hierarchy with exactly one fixed-price circuit-switched route from any two nodes to a massively geodesic network with a combinatorical number of routes between any two nodes, each route with its own possible auction price depending on latency, noise, and lots of other factors. The result was a dramatic reduction in transaction cost, price discovery, market entry, and of course firm size, and ultimately a dramatic increase in the number of phone companies, even vertically integrated ones, and we haven't even started cash-settlement of network bandwidth yet. (The paradox, of course, is that every information worker who sits in front of a microcomputer to work these days, sizeably more than half the female population -- even a MacDonald's cashier -- is doing exactly what a turn-of-the-20th-century telephone operator does, reprocessing and routing information from one part of the network to another.) Someday, the same thing will happen to roads, and to electricity, and to natural gas, and to any system requiring the movement of one ostensible commodity from one place to another, including physical goods in the commercial distribution chain, with internet bearer bills of lading and warehouse receipts being traded against instantaneous internet bearer cash settlement -- just like cars paying internet bearer cash to a road's intersection nodes as they travel down it. Cheers, RAH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 iQEVAwUBPHj8LsUCGwxmWcHhAQFAmQf/U7Wr1Ih+alpDQNkSkLcSuXpHfvu38Fbn y1C3ZtWT8faP/B1l3ZWMwhYvuYapLu8WT2AxKyvAnDT0S4n4XERyMVPYDFUTM36L jEDQeBjykKmrO2EvBGBbC7pFAKkGLKklchgfvi7a78KgnqG+NyeITx5Mch/Je/Yp 85GhUWyc/AeForj20roEq2XlaWcHzEL/dS8MNHKS72ZrdeKRrKU6Gy7Ar5sjYMJL A0yrlJY/9arM+gNmjG6iHB3UMHo44VQVm7qc2fcQtGhwRA1oyfzWfEmTaOT38eja 9VQmFOKnsq8hPfbMCjgcvfUg/TANMQbEcXL9VFL5Z7ZZslIDHx4ZMw== =aSAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: BBC News | SCI/TECH | Watching your every move
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over here in the midwest USA these cameras have been springing up on the highways (mounted on the overhanging sodium lamps) like crazy. What's really amazing is that there is so little public *notice* of them (I realize the public may not bitch about it, but I _am_ surprised that the public *literally* doesn't *see* them). I've wondered greatly at how useful these cameras can be on major arteries where average speeds are in the 50-75mph range, but I guess the answer lies in their proliferation. They've put over a thousand up along I-35, 183, and Mo-Pac here in Austin in the last year alone. The traffic flow hasn't changed one whit... The cameras (at least the overt ones) are mounted on stand alone poles about 60ft tall with this really cool looking 'sheep catcher' lightning rod on top. No question what they are. It's also worth noting that most of the collection/distribution sites are placed under over-passes. -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
