Nightclub you'll want to skip - RFID microchipping the guests [BBC article]
Here's a nightclub you'll want to skip, unless you feel like hacking RFIDs... (Nothing up my sleeve but this Rivest RFID Blocker!) ** Barcelona clubbers get chipped ** Some clubbers in Barcelona have opted to have a microchip implanted which lets them pay for drinks. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/technology/3697940.stm BBC Science producer Simon Morton goes clubbing in Barcelona with a microchip implanted in his arm to pay for drinks. Imagine having a glass capsule measuring 1.3mm by 1mm, about the size of a large grain of rice injected under your skin. Implanting microchips that emit a Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) into animals has been common practice in many countries around the world, with some looking to make it a legal requirement for domestic pet owners. The idea of having my very own microchip implanted in my body appealed. I have always been an early adopter, so why not. Last week I headed for the bright lights of the Catalan city of Barcelona to enter the exclusive VIP Baja Beach Club. The night club offers its VIP clients the opportunity to have a syringe-injected microchip implanted in their upper arms that not only gives them special access to VIP lounges, but also acts as a debit account from which they can pay for drinks. This sort of thing is handy for a beach club where bikinis and board shorts are the uniform and carrying a wallet or purse is really not practical. Thumping heart I met the owner of the club, Conrad Chase, who had come up with the idea when trying to develop the ultimate in membership cards and was the first person implanted with the capsule, made by VeriChip Corporation. With a waiver in his hand Conrad asked me to sign my life away, confirming that if I wanted the chip removed it was my responsibility. Four aspiring VIP members sat quietly sipping their beverages as the nurse Laia began preparing the surgical materials. Like a scene from a sci-fi movie, latex gloves and syringes were laid out on the table as the DJ played loud dance tunes that made my heart thump, or was it just fear? Questions were going through my mind. Would it hurt? What are the risks? What if I want to get it out? I ordered another drink. Comfortably numb Laia started by disinfecting my upper arm and then administered a local anaesthetic to numb the area where the chip would be implanted. With the large needle in her hand, she tested the zone which made me flinch and led to another dose of the anaesthetic. With a numb arm, Laia held up the rather large needle containing the microchip and inserted it beneath the layer of skin and fat on my arm. She pressed the injector and it was in - my very own 10 digit number safely located in my body. The chip is made of glass and is inert so there is no risk of it reacting with my body. It sits dormant under the skin sending out a very low range radio frequency so it will not set off airport security systems. The chip responds to a signal when a scanner is held near it and supplies its own unique ID number. The number can then be linked to a database that is linked to other data, at the Baja beach club it make charges to a customers account. If I want to leave the club then I can have it surgically removed - a pretty simple procedure similar to having it put in. Now, the question of did it hurt. Having the chip inserted was a breeze, no real pain to report of. The real pain was the sore head the following day after a night on an open bar tab. You can hear more about Simon's experiences on the BBC World Service programme Go Digital Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/technology/3697940.stm Published: 2004/09/29 08:17:45 GMT © BBC MMIV
Nightclub you'll want to skip - RFID microchipping the guests [BBC article]
Here's a nightclub you'll want to skip, unless you feel like hacking RFIDs... (Nothing up my sleeve but this Rivest RFID Blocker!) ** Barcelona clubbers get chipped ** Some clubbers in Barcelona have opted to have a microchip implanted which lets them pay for drinks. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/technology/3697940.stm BBC Science producer Simon Morton goes clubbing in Barcelona with a microchip implanted in his arm to pay for drinks. Imagine having a glass capsule measuring 1.3mm by 1mm, about the size of a large grain of rice injected under your skin. Implanting microchips that emit a Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) into animals has been common practice in many countries around the world, with some looking to make it a legal requirement for domestic pet owners. The idea of having my very own microchip implanted in my body appealed. I have always been an early adopter, so why not. Last week I headed for the bright lights of the Catalan city of Barcelona to enter the exclusive VIP Baja Beach Club. The night club offers its VIP clients the opportunity to have a syringe-injected microchip implanted in their upper arms that not only gives them special access to VIP lounges, but also acts as a debit account from which they can pay for drinks. This sort of thing is handy for a beach club where bikinis and board shorts are the uniform and carrying a wallet or purse is really not practical. Thumping heart I met the owner of the club, Conrad Chase, who had come up with the idea when trying to develop the ultimate in membership cards and was the first person implanted with the capsule, made by VeriChip Corporation. With a waiver in his hand Conrad asked me to sign my life away, confirming that if I wanted the chip removed it was my responsibility. Four aspiring VIP members sat quietly sipping their beverages as the nurse Laia began preparing the surgical materials. Like a scene from a sci-fi movie, latex gloves and syringes were laid out on the table as the DJ played loud dance tunes that made my heart thump, or was it just fear? Questions were going through my mind. Would it hurt? What are the risks? What if I want to get it out? I ordered another drink. Comfortably numb Laia started by disinfecting my upper arm and then administered a local anaesthetic to numb the area where the chip would be implanted. With the large needle in her hand, she tested the zone which made me flinch and led to another dose of the anaesthetic. With a numb arm, Laia held up the rather large needle containing the microchip and inserted it beneath the layer of skin and fat on my arm. She pressed the injector and it was in - my very own 10 digit number safely located in my body. The chip is made of glass and is inert so there is no risk of it reacting with my body. It sits dormant under the skin sending out a very low range radio frequency so it will not set off airport security systems. The chip responds to a signal when a scanner is held near it and supplies its own unique ID number. The number can then be linked to a database that is linked to other data, at the Baja beach club it make charges to a customers account. If I want to leave the club then I can have it surgically removed - a pretty simple procedure similar to having it put in. Now, the question of did it hurt. Having the chip inserted was a breeze, no real pain to report of. The real pain was the sore head the following day after a night on an open bar tab. You can hear more about Simon's experiences on the BBC World Service programme Go Digital Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/technology/3697940.stm Published: 2004/09/29 08:17:45 GMT © BBC MMIV
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 11:34, Jack Lloyd wrote: Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. I voted for Cthulhu -- why vote for the lesser of two evils? http://www.cthulhu.org/
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 11:31]: : What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I : Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya?
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Damian Gerow wrote: Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors. Yeah so what? I still wouldn't want to vote for him (except as a vote against Shrubbya) Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. See Megadeth's Hook in Mouth for details on this censorious organization: http://www.songlyrics4u.com/megadeth/hook-in-mouth.html and http://www.geocities.com/fireace_00/pmrc.html for details about the PMRC.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. Wasn't there something close a few years ago? I remember a write-in campaign to get Unabomber Ted Kascinsky elected as President. -TD From: Jack Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:34:39 -0400 On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? AFAIK most local/state elections have even lower turnout than the recent ones for the prez. Anyway, you could always have voted for Nader/Brown/Tim May/etc. Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:58, sunder wrote: Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. And, like all statists, they went widely astray of their goals. Frank Zappa's _Jazz from Hell_ got a Tipper Sticker, indicating obscene lyrics. They didn't notice that _JfH_ was an instrumental album.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya?
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? AFAIK most local/state elections have even lower turnout than the recent ones for the prez. Anyway, you could always have voted for Nader/Brown/Tim May/etc. Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 11:31]: : What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I : Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Damian Gerow wrote: Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then push for funding, in the 1980's. So he didn't 'invent' the Internet, he helped provide the funding for its inventors. Yeah so what? I still wouldn't want to vote for him (except as a vote against Shrubbya) Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. See Megadeth's Hook in Mouth for details on this censorious organization: http://www.songlyrics4u.com/megadeth/hook-in-mouth.html and http://www.geocities.com/fireace_00/pmrc.html for details about the PMRC.
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. Wasn't there something close a few years ago? I remember a write-in campaign to get Unabomber Ted Kascinsky elected as President. -TD From: Jack Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:34:39 -0400 On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? AFAIK most local/state elections have even lower turnout than the recent ones for the prez. Anyway, you could always have voted for Nader/Brown/Tim May/etc. Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:58, sunder wrote: Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. And, like all statists, they went widely astray of their goals. Frank Zappa's _Jazz from Hell_ got a Tipper Sticker, indicating obscene lyrics. They didn't notice that _JfH_ was an instrumental album.
BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Current report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3641419.stm The tech: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3493474.stm Bit scant on details.. anyone know anything more about how the machine (/system) is fully tamper-proof? .g -- I Me My! Strawberry Eggs
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:28:07PM +0100, Graham Lally wrote: Current report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3641419.stm The tech: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3493474.stm Bit scant on details.. anyone know anything more about how the machine (/system) is fully tamper-proof? The system they are using has been proven tamper-proof by strong assertion. This method of security proof is used around the world for protecting all kinds of systems. Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. -Jack
BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
Current report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3641419.stm The tech: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3493474.stm Bit scant on details.. anyone know anything more about how the machine (/system) is fully tamper-proof? .g -- I Me My! Strawberry Eggs
Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:28:07PM +0100, Graham Lally wrote: Current report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3641419.stm The tech: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3493474.stm Bit scant on details.. anyone know anything more about how the machine (/system) is fully tamper-proof? The system they are using has been proven tamper-proof by strong assertion. This method of security proof is used around the world for protecting all kinds of systems. Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. -Jack
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
At 06:48 PM 4/11/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3611227.stm By the year 2010, file-sharers could be swapping news rather than music, eliminating censorship of any kind. This is the view of the man who helped kickstart the concept of peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing, Cambridge University's Professor Ross Anderson. Well duh. KaZaa carries news film clips that the media don't transmit. So does ogrish.com, but ogrish is not distributed and its name servers are run by the State of course. And then there's the indymedia (again, single point of failure) sites. There are censorship and authentication issues, of course, its hardly novel. 'Impossible to censor' To enable this, Prof Anderson proposes a new and improved version of Usenet, the internet news service. If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down First, that flavor of erotica is not well defined. E.g., A picture of one of your 15 year old wives? Your legally emancipated 16 year old lover? Second, Anderson, who should know better, forgets about stego.
BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3611227.stm File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter The net could be humming with news, rather pop, swappers By the year 2010, file-sharers could be swapping news rather than music, eliminating censorship of any kind. This is the view of the man who helped kickstart the concept of peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing, Cambridge University's Professor Ross Anderson. In his vision, people around the world would post stories via anonymous P2P services like those used to swap songs. They would cover issues currently ignored by the major news services, said Prof Anderson. Currently, only news that's reckoned to be of interest to Americans and Western Europeans will be syndicated because that's where the money is, he told the BBC World Service programme, Go Digital. But if something happens in Peru that's of interest to viewers in China and Japan, it won't get anything like the priority for syndication. If you can break the grip of the news syndication services and allow the news collector to talk to the radio station or local newspaper then you can have much more efficient communications. 'Impossible to censor' To enable this, Prof Anderson proposes a new and improved version of Usenet, the internet news service. If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down Ross Anderson, Cambridge University But what of fears that the infrastructure that allows such ad hoc news networks to grow might also be abused by criminals and terrorists? Prof Anderson believes those fears are overstated. He argued that web watchdogs like the Internet Watch Foundation, which monitors internet-based child abuse, would provide the necessary policing functions. This would require a high level of international agreement to be effective. The effect of peer-to-peer networks will be to make censorship difficult, if not impossible, said Prof Anderson. If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down. But if there's material that only one government says is wicked then, I'm sorry, but that's their tough luck. Political obstacles Commenting on Prof Anderson's ideas, technology analyst Bill Thompson welcomed the idea of new publishing tools that will weaken the grip on news of major news organisations. Such P2P systems, he said, would give everybody a voice and allow personal testimonies to come out. But the technology that makes those publishing tools accessible to everyone and sufficiently user-friendly will take longer to develop than Prof Anderson thinks, added Mr Thompson. Prof Anderson's vision underestimates the political obstacles in the way of such developments, he said, and the question of censorship had not been clearly thought through. Once you build the technology to break censorship, you've broken censorship - even of the things you want censored, said Mr Thompson. Saying you can then control some parts of it, like images of child abuse, is being wilfully optimistic. And that's something that peer to peer advocates have to face. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
Eugen Leitl pastes: File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down Ross Anderson, Cambridge University I think the problem here is that material which John Ashcroft, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson think is wicked, may not be what Ross Anderson or I think is wicked. After all, to some people Howard Stern is disgusting and obscene. To others, he is merely witty and slightly burlesque. Prof Anderson believes those fears are overstated. He argued that web watchdogs like the Internet Watch Foundation, which monitors internet-based child abuse, would provide the necessary policing functions. Well, it's good to know Professor Anderson values the opinion of an organization that won't even use the term child pornography to refer to the things that offend Ashcroft, Falwell, and Robertson, but demands everyone use terms like pictures of children being abused and child abuse pictures. As those who flog the Sex Abuse Agenda are well aware, 90% of successful propaganda is owning the vocabulary. I am reminded of the changing of the term statutory rape to child rape a few years ago, which I am sure we will all agree is a less than accurate description of a 20 year old who has consensual sex with a streetwise 17 year old crack whore. I think Hakin Bey's suggestion that plastering pictures of naked children everywhere is a great form of political theatre has merit. All the right wing crackpots will have to hide in their homes to avoid having strokes, and the well-balanced representatives of the Forces of Reason can finally live their lives in peace and quiet. Perhaps we can have Public Service Announcements by the Coalition for a Prude-Free AmeriKKKa. This is Timmy. This is TImmy's cock. This is Timmy's cock in Billy's mouth. Any questions? -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3611227.stm File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter The net could be humming with news, rather pop, swappers By the year 2010, file-sharers could be swapping news rather than music, eliminating censorship of any kind. This is the view of the man who helped kickstart the concept of peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing, Cambridge University's Professor Ross Anderson. In his vision, people around the world would post stories via anonymous P2P services like those used to swap songs. They would cover issues currently ignored by the major news services, said Prof Anderson. Currently, only news that's reckoned to be of interest to Americans and Western Europeans will be syndicated because that's where the money is, he told the BBC World Service programme, Go Digital. But if something happens in Peru that's of interest to viewers in China and Japan, it won't get anything like the priority for syndication. If you can break the grip of the news syndication services and allow the news collector to talk to the radio station or local newspaper then you can have much more efficient communications. 'Impossible to censor' To enable this, Prof Anderson proposes a new and improved version of Usenet, the internet news service. If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down Ross Anderson, Cambridge University But what of fears that the infrastructure that allows such ad hoc news networks to grow might also be abused by criminals and terrorists? Prof Anderson believes those fears are overstated. He argued that web watchdogs like the Internet Watch Foundation, which monitors internet-based child abuse, would provide the necessary policing functions. This would require a high level of international agreement to be effective. The effect of peer-to-peer networks will be to make censorship difficult, if not impossible, said Prof Anderson. If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down. But if there's material that only one government says is wicked then, I'm sorry, but that's their tough luck. Political obstacles Commenting on Prof Anderson's ideas, technology analyst Bill Thompson welcomed the idea of new publishing tools that will weaken the grip on news of major news organisations. Such P2P systems, he said, would give everybody a voice and allow personal testimonies to come out. But the technology that makes those publishing tools accessible to everyone and sufficiently user-friendly will take longer to develop than Prof Anderson thinks, added Mr Thompson. Prof Anderson's vision underestimates the political obstacles in the way of such developments, he said, and the question of censorship had not been clearly thought through. Once you build the technology to break censorship, you've broken censorship - even of the things you want censored, said Mr Thompson. Saying you can then control some parts of it, like images of child abuse, is being wilfully optimistic. And that's something that peer to peer advocates have to face. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
Eugen Leitl pastes: File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down Ross Anderson, Cambridge University I think the problem here is that material which John Ashcroft, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson think is wicked, may not be what Ross Anderson or I think is wicked. After all, to some people Howard Stern is disgusting and obscene. To others, he is merely witty and slightly burlesque. Prof Anderson believes those fears are overstated. He argued that web watchdogs like the Internet Watch Foundation, which monitors internet-based child abuse, would provide the necessary policing functions. Well, it's good to know Professor Anderson values the opinion of an organization that won't even use the term child pornography to refer to the things that offend Ashcroft, Falwell, and Robertson, but demands everyone use terms like pictures of children being abused and child abuse pictures. As those who flog the Sex Abuse Agenda are well aware, 90% of successful propaganda is owning the vocabulary. I am reminded of the changing of the term statutory rape to child rape a few years ago, which I am sure we will all agree is a less than accurate description of a 20 year old who has consensual sex with a streetwise 17 year old crack whore. I think Hakin Bey's suggestion that plastering pictures of naked children everywhere is a great form of political theatre has merit. All the right wing crackpots will have to hide in their homes to avoid having strokes, and the well-balanced representatives of the Forces of Reason can finally live their lives in peace and quiet. Perhaps we can have Public Service Announcements by the Coalition for a Prude-Free AmeriKKKa. This is Timmy. This is TImmy's cock. This is Timmy's cock in Billy's mouth. Any questions? -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
Harmon Seaver (2004-04-11 20:05Z) wrote: This is insane -- on what basis, under what Constitutional authority, does the state get to decide that the christer marriage vows are sacred and legal, and a pagan or indig taking to wife isn't? This is one nation under God (the Christian God), or haven't you noticed? If the Christian Right thinks God doesn't like something, it's not Constitutionally protected. -- You took my gun. It's just your word against mine! Not necessarily. -Bernie vs Tom, Miller's Crossing
Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: As those who flog the Sex Abuse Agenda are well aware, 90% of successful propaganda is owning the vocabulary. I am reminded of the changing of the term statutory rape to child rape a few years ago, which I am sure we will all agree is a less than accurate description of a 20 year old who has consensual sex with a streetwise 17 year old crack whore. Or even his 17 year old virgin girlfriend. I really have a hard time understanding how we reached this point -- it wasn't even 100 years ago when girls of 17 were considered in danger of becoming old maids if they weren't married already. In fact, when I was growing up, the legal age for marriage in Mississippi was 12 for girls and 14 for boys, with parents permission. Without, it was 14 and 16. Many, many states had similar laws. And, in fact, back then at least one state, Maryland IIRC, had a statutory rape age of 8. So, while on the one hand, more young teens are having sex fairly openly, and at younger and younger ages, even in preteen, some as young as 10 from what I read in the press; the laws are becoming more and more repressive. And not just the law, also the prosecutors -- in Racine, WI a month or so ago it was announced that prosecutors had charged a girl and boy, both 15, with having sex with a child -- each other. WTF is going on? What else is this but religious oppression? Look, I can marry a girl (with parents okay) on her 16th birthday here in WI, but if I just have her come live with me, I could spend probably most of the rest of my life in prison. This is insane -- on what basis, under what Constitutional authority, does the state get to decide that the christer marriage vows are sacred and legal, and a pagan or indig taking to wife isn't? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!
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Justin wrote: This is one nation under God (the Christian God), or haven't you noticed? If the Christian Right thinks God doesn't like something, it's not Constitutionally protected. Even worse, I've once heard a coworker explain to me why Bush doesn't give a rats ass about the environment: just like the impromptu pilots who learned how to fly, but not land, Bush and Crew believe that this world is theirs to do with as they wish, and that pollution isn't important - so what if thousands die of cancer, so long as they earn a place in their idea paradise. Yes, between the flat-earther's, witch burners, jihadists, and other nuts, religion certain has had a wonderful influence on humanity.
Re: bbc
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: Did the IRA bomb the BBC newserver or something? They've been down for two days now. There has certainly been no interruption in service in the UK; I look at it daily. However, news.bbc.co.uk is not one machine. The BBC has at least two clusters of servers, one at Telehouse in London and the other in Telehouse America in New York. When I was providing services to the BBC (up until about 18 months ago), these server farms were connected by a private circuit, enabling the NY site to mirror the UK site. Custom DNS software looked at where you were (by IP address) and then gave you an IP address in either London or New York, depending on whether you connected through the London Internet exchange. What's most likely is that someone along the way has tried to be clever with caching/proxying and in effect has broken your connection. -- Jim Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +44 117 982 0786 mobile +44 797 373 7881
Re: bbc
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 03:01:01PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: Did the IRA bomb the BBC newserver or something? They've been down for two days now. There has certainly been no interruption in service in the UK; I look at it daily. However, news.bbc.co.uk is not one machine. The BBC has at least two clusters of servers, one at Telehouse in London and the other in Telehouse America in New York. When I was providing services to the BBC (up until about 18 months ago), these server farms were connected by a private circuit, enabling the NY site to mirror the UK site. Custom DNS software looked at where you were (by IP address) and then gave you an IP address in either London or New York, depending on whether you connected through the London Internet exchange. What's most likely is that someone along the way has tried to be clever with caching/proxying and in effect has broken your connection. Must be something like that -- weird tho. I can get to news.bbc.co.uk just fine, but the one I'd been using for a long, long time on a daily basis, www.bbc.uk.com, just disappeared. Oh well. Makes me wonder tho, about who/what the sites actually are that we go to -- maybe nothing is as it seems. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Last I knew, TiVo ran a customized Linux base OS, the source of most of which was publicly available. The recording app is proprietary, though, I think. modified linux kernel + some other bits for booting. Anything interesting is probably proprietary. sources available from http://www.tivo.com/linux -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 0:24 -0700 2002/06/02, Marc wrote: To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. ...and they did this at the request of the BBC who paid them to do it. yeesh. I don't think anyone came out of this looking good. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. making it easier to bypass paying for service than it is on the TiVo, just activate the right tier and presto, UTV service. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 0:24 -0700 2002/06/02, Marc wrote: To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. ...and they did this at the request of the BBC who paid them to do it. yeesh. I don't think anyone came out of this looking good. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. making it easier to bypass paying for service than it is on the TiVo, just activate the right tier and presto, UTV service. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. All the normal promotional aspects apply: It won't be recorded if it conflicts with a scheduled recording, it can be aborted if you're watching live tv at the time, it appears on the 'front page' of the menu, not with the other shows, and it's generally recorded in the dead of night keeping conflicts at a minimum. You can argue that they shouldn't be selling promotional ads on the TiVo, but that's going to fall into the mess of the reality that these things do in fact subsidize the hardware and software updates, at least for now. As for outgoing information, TiVo units are powerpc linux systems, and fairly easy to get a shell on the standalone units. They can be modified with a fair bit of unix knowledge to stop the logging, and verified by modem snooping or if setup to use broadband by just sniffing the network at the time the transfer occurs. DirecTiVo units are harder to get a shell, but can be modified to never call home at all. However such modification is the same modification to get the TiVo 'subscription' for free. If done, it also stops promotional recordings. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. I don't know if it does promotional recordings now, but the OS can be updated off the stream so it could start doing so at any time. I think it has an inferior UI. For an open source PVR, probably the easiest way would be to rip anything not GPL from the TiVo and start from there. PC style setups exist in both Linux and Windows but suffer from system size and poor remote control integration.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 3:08 pm -0700 1/6/02, jet wrote: However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. And adult material available to children before the watershed? And whilst the programme was being recorded the instant live replay facility was lost as the machine was recording spam. f
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
At 10:39 am -0700 1/6/02, Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] There is a commercial Windows package that does the same thing - circa $50, written in Edinburgh, called showshifter. They give you a choice of ways to access schedules that you buy seperately ie Digiguide so you can't be hijacked. http://www.showshifter.com/ f
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Steve Schear wrote: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders But viewers in the UK were surprised this week to find that the second episode of the little-known BBC sitcom Dossa and Joe had been recorded without their knowledge and added to the system's main menu screen. Hmmm. My Tivo didn't record it. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. - Robert Woodruff
Re: CDR: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] BBC hijacks TiVo recorders By Andrew Smith Posted: 24/05/2002 at 23:22 GMT Users of the TiVo digital video recorder have reacted angrily to a new sponsorship feature that automatically records certain programmes, adverts and other promotional material. One of TiVo's more innovative features is its ability to recommend programmes based on viewing habits, such as watching every episode of a soap opera or every film starring a certain actor. But viewers in the UK were surprised this week to find that the second episode of the little-known BBC sitcom Dossa and Joe had been recorded without their knowledge and added to the system's main menu screen. They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html
Re: CDR: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] BBC hijacks TiVo recorders By Andrew Smith Posted: 24/05/2002 at 23:22 GMT Last I knew, TiVo ran a customized Linux base OS, the source of most of which was publicly available. The recording app is proprietary, though, I think. jbdigriz
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't restrict promotional recordings. All the normal promotional aspects apply: It won't be recorded if it conflicts with a scheduled recording, it can be aborted if you're watching live tv at the time, it appears on the 'front page' of the menu, not with the other shows, and it's generally recorded in the dead of night keeping conflicts at a minimum. You can argue that they shouldn't be selling promotional ads on the TiVo, but that's going to fall into the mess of the reality that these things do in fact subsidize the hardware and software updates, at least for now. As for outgoing information, TiVo units are powerpc linux systems, and fairly easy to get a shell on the standalone units. They can be modified with a fair bit of unix knowledge to stop the logging, and verified by modem snooping or if setup to use broadband by just sniffing the network at the time the transfer occurs. DirecTiVo units are harder to get a shell, but can be modified to never call home at all. However such modification is the same modification to get the TiVo 'subscription' for free. If done, it also stops promotional recordings. UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions. I don't know if it does promotional recordings now, but the OS can be updated off the stream so it could start doing so at any time. I think it has an inferior UI. For an open source PVR, probably the easiest way would be to rip anything not GPL from the TiVo and start from there. PC style setups exist in both Linux and Windows but suffer from system size and poor remote control integration.
Re: CDR: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] BBC hijacks TiVo recorders By Andrew Smith Posted: 24/05/2002 at 23:22 GMT Users of the TiVo digital video recorder have reacted angrily to a new sponsorship feature that automatically records certain programmes, adverts and other promotional material. One of TiVo's more innovative features is its ability to recommend programmes based on viewing habits, such as watching every episode of a soap opera or every film starring a certain actor. But viewers in the UK were surprised this week to find that the second episode of the little-known BBC sitcom Dossa and Joe had been recorded without their knowledge and added to the system's main menu screen. They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html
Re: CDR: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
Steve Schear wrote: [This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] BBC hijacks TiVo recorders By Andrew Smith Posted: 24/05/2002 at 23:22 GMT Last I knew, TiVo ran a customized Linux base OS, the source of most of which was publicly available. The recording app is proprietary, though, I think. jbdigriz
BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
[This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] BBC hijacks TiVo recorders By Andrew Smith Posted: 24/05/2002 at 23:22 GMT Users of the TiVo digital video recorder have reacted angrily to a new sponsorship feature that automatically records certain programmes, adverts and other promotional material. One of TiVo's more innovative features is its ability to recommend programmes based on viewing habits, such as watching every episode of a soap opera or every film starring a certain actor. But viewers in the UK were surprised this week to find that the second episode of the little-known BBC sitcom Dossa and Joe had been recorded without their knowledge and added to the system's main menu screen. They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, at 03:08 PM, jet wrote: They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. If TiVO works the same basic way my UltimateTV (Sony/DirectTV) works, having Bubba and Ram Dass, or whatever, always in my list of recorded shows for a week would be a massive annoyance. You said you worked for TiVo, as I recall. I suggest you point out to your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee growing irritation, hacks to permanently interfere with TIVo's spam recordings, the Bubba and Doss show being unfavorably smeared by angry TiVO customers, and even a grass roots campaign to monkeywrench TiVO in general. By the way, so far my Ultimate TV hasn't tried any such Big Brother tricks on me. Though they may have their own corporate clowns looking for revenue enhancement. Downloaded ads that play before every recorded show can be viewed. Schemes to disable fast-forwarding through commercials. --Tim May The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of. -- Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Tim May wrote: your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee Everything has unintended consequences, the Law is spin doctor bullshit. -- When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Tim May wrote: your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee Everything has unintended consequences, the Law is spin doctor bullshit. -- When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
[This sort of thing is why I will never consider buying networked appliances that I don't feel are in my control. Has anyone considered reverse engineering Windows for an open source release?] BBC hijacks TiVo recorders By Andrew Smith Posted: 24/05/2002 at 23:22 GMT Users of the TiVo digital video recorder have reacted angrily to a new sponsorship feature that automatically records certain programmes, adverts and other promotional material. One of TiVo's more innovative features is its ability to recommend programmes based on viewing habits, such as watching every episode of a soap opera or every film starring a certain actor. But viewers in the UK were surprised this week to find that the second episode of the little-known BBC sitcom Dossa and Joe had been recorded without their knowledge and added to the system's main menu screen. They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. -- J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com buy stickers: http://www.spies.com/jet/store.html to support the artcar: http://www.spies.com/jet/artcar.html Looking for vets who served with USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970.
Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, at 03:08 PM, jet wrote: They were even more surprised to find that they won't be allowed to delete the programme for one week, and that more sponsored recordings are on the way. ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html However, the show didn't take up any user space, but was stored in reserved system space that's kept around for use during software upgrades and whatnot. If TiVO works the same basic way my UltimateTV (Sony/DirectTV) works, having Bubba and Ram Dass, or whatever, always in my list of recorded shows for a week would be a massive annoyance. You said you worked for TiVo, as I recall. I suggest you point out to your corporate bosses the Law of Unintended Consequences. I foresee growing irritation, hacks to permanently interfere with TIVo's spam recordings, the Bubba and Doss show being unfavorably smeared by angry TiVO customers, and even a grass roots campaign to monkeywrench TiVO in general. By the way, so far my Ultimate TV hasn't tried any such Big Brother tricks on me. Though they may have their own corporate clowns looking for revenue enhancement. Downloaded ads that play before every recorded show can be viewed. Schemes to disable fast-forwarding through commercials. --Tim May The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of. -- Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789
BBC News | SCI/TECH | Jackal blood makes 'perfect' sniffer dogs (fwd)
I'll put 'em up against my Wolf hybrids but Wolves kill Coyote. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1977000/1977094.stm -- The law is applied philosophy and a philosphical system is only as valid as its first principles. James Patrick Kelly - Wildlife [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
BBC News | SCI/TECH | Stopping the cyber-criminals (fwd)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1964000/1964765.stm -- The law is applied philosophy and a philosphical system is only as valid as its first principles. James Patrick Kelly - Wildlife [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
BBC News | SCI/TECH | PC networks inspired by gossip (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:47:25 -0500 From: James Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BBC News | SCI/TECH | PC networks inspired by gossip Can you say 'Small World Networks'?... http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_1939000/1939928.stm
BBC News | UK | Step-by-step (nuclear) bomb guide 'made public' (fwd)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1931000/1931103.stm -- The law is applied philosophy and a philosphical system is only as valid as its first principles. James Patrick Kelly - Wildlife [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
BBC News | SCI/TECH | Israel under hack attack (fwd)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1932000/1932750.stm -- The law is applied philosophy and a philosphical system is only as valid as its first principles. James Patrick Kelly - Wildlife [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
[Reformatted] Reichstag Anthrax Theatre: BBC on CIA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Major Variola ret) writes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/newsnight/archive/newsid_1873000/1873368.stm A Newsnight investigation raised the possibility that there was a secret CIA project to investigate methods of sending anthrax through the mail which went madly out of control. The shocking assertion is that a key member of the covert operation may have removed, refined and eventually posted weapons-grade anthrax which killed five people. In the wake of Sept 11th, the anthrax attacks caused panic throughout the States and around the world. But has the FBI found the whole case too hot to handle? Our science editor Susan Watts reported from Washington. snip
Reichstag Anthrax Theatre: BBC on CIA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/newsnight/archive/newsid_1873000/1873368.stm A Newsnight investigation raised the possibility that there was a secret CIA project to investigate methods of sending anthrax through the mail which went madly out of control. The shocking assertion is that a key member of the covert operation may have removed, refined and eventually posted weapons-grade anthrax which killed five people. In the wake of Sept 11th, the anthrax attacks caused panic throughout the States and around the world. But has the FBI found the whole case too hot to handle? Our science editor Susan Watts reported from Washington. snip
BBC News | ENGLAND | Students debate Israel 'apartheid'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1844000/1844326.stm BBC News | ENGLAND | Students debate Israel 'apartheid' Wednesday, 27 February, 2002, 14:11 GMT Students debate Israel 'apartheid' A student at Manchester University proposed the motion Large numbers of students are expected to converge on Manchester University to demonstrate over an attempt to brand Israel an apartheid state. A motion being proposed by a Manchester University student and supported by the Islamic Society, argues that Israel is carrying out human rights abuses against Palestinians. Students from across the country are travelling to the city to support and protest against the action on Wednesday. If it is passed, Jewish students fear anti-Semitic sentiment will lead to the ban of Jewish societies within universities and fuel prejudice. The proposal draws a parallel between South African and Israeli apartheid and human rights abuse Andrew Perfect, Students' Union General secretary of the university's Students' Union, Andrew Perfect said tensions on campus were running fairly high. He said they were expecting at least 1,000 people in the debating hall, students outside and people from the local community. He said: This is a human rights motion regarding abuses against the people of Palestine. The proposal draws a parallel between South African and Israeli apartheid and human rights abuse. We are expecting at least 1,000 of our 24,000 members to vote, with lots of others outside, as well as a large number of people from around the country and a number from the community. Heated debate The motion is expected to be debated for most of the afternoon. Greater Manchester Police have been notified of the expected crowds and are sending officers to the event. A police spokeswoman said: We are aware of it and there will be a low key presence to ensure it passes off peacefully. Mr Perfect said: Tensions are fairly high on campus at the moment. But this is not the first time something like this has happened. In 1996, a group of students tried to ban the Jewish Society. A spokesman for the university said they had read the motion and were satisfied it was a legitimate debate. He said: The motion relates to the situation in Israel and Palestine and that is why some kind of heat has been generated. We are expecting it to be quite heated. http://www.manchesterisoc.org.uk Islamic Society at Manchester University Human Rights For Palestinians Dear Friends, Peace Be Upon You. We would like to bring to your attention that students at Manchester University have felt that there is a need to condemn the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in their own homeland, by the racist 'Israeli' apartheid regime, on an official level. A motion detailing the atrocities and blatant disregard for human rights was submitted to the Students Union to be discussed and voted on in a general meeting next Wednesday the 27th of Feb. at 1.30pm in the Academy. Unfortunately, certain groups opposing this motion (hmm, I wonder who that could be?!), have sunk to all time new lows in trying to divert the attention away from the issue up for discussion. They have resorted to attempted provocation and outright childish behaviour in an attempt to stop this motion. However, those supporting the motion, have been ignoring these pathetic attempts, much to the despair of those opposed to it. What's on this microsite? Well, due to the huge support we have received from people up and down the country, we have decided to add a diary of events including pictures detailing what has been going on.We have also added a list of links that you may find useful. What Can You Do? Keep sending us your comments via email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] and spread the word about what is happening at Manchester University. More importantly, remember us in your du'a. There will be more information soon... Wassalam
[Reformatted] BBC News | ENGLAND | Students debate Israel 'apartheid'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anonymous User) writes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1844000/1844326.stm BBC News | ENGLAND | Students debate Israel 'apartheid' Wednesday, 27 February, 2002, 14:11 GMT Students debate Israel 'apartheid' A student at Manchester University proposed the motion Large numbers of students are expected to converge on Manchester University to demonstrate over an attempt to brand Israel an apartheid state. A motion being proposed by a Manchester University student and supported by the Islamic Society, argues that Israel is carrying out human rights abuses against Palestinians. Students from across the country are travelling to the city to support and protest against the action on Wednesday. If it is passed, Jewish students fear anti-Semitic sentiment will lead to the ban of Jewish societies within universities and fuel prejudice. The proposal draws a parallel between South African and Israeli apartheid and human rights abuse Andrew Perfect, Students' Union General secretary of the university's Students' Union, Andrew Perfect said tensions on campus were running fairly high. He said they were expecting at least 1,000 people in the debating hall, students outside and people from the local community. He said: This is a human rights motion regarding abuses against the people of Palestine. The proposal draws a parallel between South African and Israeli apartheid and human rights abuse. We are expecting at least 1,000 of our 24,000 members to vote, with lots of others outside, as well as a large number of people from around the country and a number from the community. Heated debate The motion is expected to be debated for most of the afternoon. Greater Manchester Police have been notified of the expected crowds and are sending officers to the event. A police spokeswoman said: We are aware of it and there will be a low key presence to ensure it passes off peacefully. Mr Perfect said: Tensions are fairly high on campus at the moment. But this is not the first time something like this has happened. In 1996, a group of students tried to ban the Jewish Society. A spokesman for the university said they had read the motion and were satisfied it was a legitimate debate. He said: The motion relates to the situation in Israel and Palestine and that is why some kind of heat has been generated. We are expecting it to be quite heated. http://www.manchesterisoc.org.uk Islamic Society at Manchester University Human Rights For Palestinians Dear Friends, Peace Be Upon You. We would like to bring to your attention that students at Manchester University have felt that there is a need to condemn the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in their own homeland, by the racist 'Israeli' apartheid regime, on an official level. A motion detailing the atrocities and blatant disregard for human rights was submitted to the Students Union to be discussed and voted on in a general meeting next Wednesday the 27th of Feb. at 1.30pm in the Academy. Unfortunately, certain groups opposing this motion (hmm, I wonder who that could be?!), have sunk to all time new lows in trying to divert the attention away from the issue up for discussion. They have resorted to attempted provocation and outright childish behaviour in an attempt to stop this motion. However, those supporting the motion, have been ignoring these pathetic attempts, much to the despair of those opposed to it. What's on this microsite? Well, due to the huge support we have received from people up and down the country, we have decided to add a diary of events including pictures detailing what has been going on.We have also added a list of links that you may find useful. What Can You Do? Keep sending us your comments via email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] and spread the word about what is happening at Manchester University. More importantly, remember us in your du'a. There will be more information soon... Wassalam
Re: Blair accidently sells the roads (was Re: BBC article: Vehicles 'tracked')
note that it didn't eliminate the economies of scale of network operation there is still massive investment required in things like fiber. some amount of the current pricing could possibly be an overbuilt over-invested infrastructure ... some number of operations going bankrupt ... and then some amount of the infrastructure available on a pricing structure that doesn't require full ROI recovery of the original investment (i.e. written off). the electronics revolution moved some amount of the economies of scale into multi-billion dollar fabrication plants that have to be written off every 3-5 years and new ones built at possible 2-3 times the cost of the previous generation. In some sense, the massive investment in the enabling infrastructure has led to fewer, much more massive operations that are required to support the massive cost reductions in other areas. also, much of this is disruptive technology ... either because of technology itself and/or the second order effects of infrastructure cost reduction ... which would tend to have a distabelizing effects on operations that had reached some sort of stabilized equilibrium under earlier cost/price paradigms. One question might be is the choatic nature of the players in hese market segments a permanent feature or a temporary transition phase as infrastructure attempts to re-establish some equilibrium after significant disruptive influence? past ref: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsmail.htm#law dbts: More on law vs economics [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 2/24/2002 7:44 am wrote: The resulting exponential drop in the price of switching completely inverted the economies of scale of network operation, changing its very structure from an increasingly larger, more unified hierarchy with exactly one fixed-price circuit-switched route from any two nodes to a massively geodesic network with a combinatorical number of routes between any two nodes, each route with its own possible auction price depending on latency, noise, and lots of other factors. The result was a dramatic reduction in transaction cost, price discovery, market entry, and of course firm size, and ultimately a dramatic increase in the number of phone companies, even vertically integrated ones, and we haven't even started cash-settlement of network bandwidth yet. (The paradox, of course, is that every information worker who sits in front of a microcomputer to work these days, sizeably more than half the female population -- even a MacDonald's cashier -- is doing exactly what a turn-of-the-20th-century telephone operator does, reprocessing and routing information from one part of the network to another.)
Re: Blair accidently sells the roads (was Re: BBC article: Vehicles 'tracked')
On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 09:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, much of this is disruptive technology ... either because of technology itself and/or the second order effects of infrastructure cost reduction ... which would tend to have a distabelizing effects on operations that had reached some sort of stabilized equilibrium under earlier cost/price paradigms. One question might be is the choatic nature Shouldn't there be an e in choatic? --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
BBC article: Vehicles 'tracked'
An attempt to ease congestion, using GPS. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1838000/1838185.stm ...The Commission, which provides independent transport advice to the government, said Global Positioning System satellites would track vehicles via electronic black boxes fixed to the dashboard. Information on their whereabouts could be beamed back to computers at highway authorities or to a private company contracted to the government. No mention of any controversy other than, I assume, the usual outcry of people who would have to pay more. Gah.
Blair accidently sells the roads (was Re: BBC article: Vehicles 'tracked')
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 11:58 AM + on 2/24/02, Graham Lally wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1838000/1838185.stm For those on the left side of the pond, road pricing has been big issue in Britain, started by libertarian conservatives in the dawn of the Lady Maggy era, and now hijacked by erst-totalitarian socialists in political era when nobody admits to have ever been a Tory. I expect, nonetheless, that if BritGov attempts to do road-pricing with centralized book-entry transactions and GPS transponders, instead of with a simple digital bearer cash toll system, such a system would choke, just like the original proposal to have central automated control of the Bay Area's BART system falls down, even now, 30 years after they tried it originally. If such a top-down, positive control system did work, however, it would probably still create an infrastructure where the adoption of a streaming bearer cash toll structure would so undercut the installed system on transaction cost that it would be cheaper to literally sell the roads to the abutters in the long run -- resulting the the fulfillment of that long-standing libertarian wet-dream, selling the roads. So, totalitarians, and transportation bluenoses and busybodies should be careful of what they wish for. For an example of that, remember what happened to telephony. The industry demanded from the state a Morganized monopoly to prevent ruinous competition. In exchange for same, the various local political machines controlling the nation-state required universal service to keep the mob from voting them out of office, and to create a larger pool of depositors in the political favor-bank. It took a quite a while, but the creation of a so-called natural monopoly eventually backfired on both of them. Universal service required automated switching to prevent requiring a significant percentage of the population (half of all females was the apocryphal statistic) from becoming telephone operators. As a result, electromechanical switching (rotary dial) begat electronic switching (touch-tone; Shockley invented the transistor for the phone company, remember?), which, in turn, begat microprocessor switching and Moore's Law. The resulting exponential drop in the price of switching completely inverted the economies of scale of network operation, changing its very structure from an increasingly larger, more unified hierarchy with exactly one fixed-price circuit-switched route from any two nodes to a massively geodesic network with a combinatorical number of routes between any two nodes, each route with its own possible auction price depending on latency, noise, and lots of other factors. The result was a dramatic reduction in transaction cost, price discovery, market entry, and of course firm size, and ultimately a dramatic increase in the number of phone companies, even vertically integrated ones, and we haven't even started cash-settlement of network bandwidth yet. (The paradox, of course, is that every information worker who sits in front of a microcomputer to work these days, sizeably more than half the female population -- even a MacDonald's cashier -- is doing exactly what a turn-of-the-20th-century telephone operator does, reprocessing and routing information from one part of the network to another.) Someday, the same thing will happen to roads, and to electricity, and to natural gas, and to any system requiring the movement of one ostensible commodity from one place to another, including physical goods in the commercial distribution chain, with internet bearer bills of lading and warehouse receipts being traded against instantaneous internet bearer cash settlement -- just like cars paying internet bearer cash to a road's intersection nodes as they travel down it. Cheers, RAH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 iQEVAwUBPHj8LsUCGwxmWcHhAQFAmQf/U7Wr1Ih+alpDQNkSkLcSuXpHfvu38Fbn y1C3ZtWT8faP/B1l3ZWMwhYvuYapLu8WT2AxKyvAnDT0S4n4XERyMVPYDFUTM36L jEDQeBjykKmrO2EvBGBbC7pFAKkGLKklchgfvi7a78KgnqG+NyeITx5Mch/Je/Yp 85GhUWyc/AeForj20roEq2XlaWcHzEL/dS8MNHKS72ZrdeKRrKU6Gy7Ar5sjYMJL A0yrlJY/9arM+gNmjG6iHB3UMHo44VQVm7qc2fcQtGhwRA1oyfzWfEmTaOT38eja 9VQmFOKnsq8hPfbMCjgcvfUg/TANMQbEcXL9VFL5Z7ZZslIDHx4ZMw== =aSAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
BBC News | BOSTON 2002 | Humans will 'sail to the stars'
Considering the current state of life extension and bio-technology, the odds are that when these ships are first set to sail the life span of the average techological(!) human will be about 150 to 200 years. In that time the potential for further extension is possible. This also will create a great need for networking at a scale that has never been attempted. If we can do this in the next 20-25 years we might have a good chance of surviving as a species with respect to geological time scales. My plan would be multi-staged. The first stage would be laser lift to high altitude. A Roto-vator or similar tether technology would then be used to get to LEO. Then have mass drivers shoot material to the moon (send a mass driver there soonest). The primary resource for these endeavours will be the Earth crossing asteroids, especially those betwix Earth and the Moon. A Lunar colony, darkside telescopes, etc. come with the plan. Say a hundred years for initial stage completion (remember the life extension technology - mankind is in for a wild ride in about 25-50 years.Yip Yip Yahoo :) The next step should(!) be two-fold. It should consist of two parallel efforts. Effort one would be a mass driver / colony effort to Mars. The second effort should be a colony in the Jovian or Saturn systems. Someplace where there is water and lots(!) of hydrocarbons and such. The next step will be a asteroid and comet mining effort, 200 to 250 years. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/in_depth/sci_tech/2002/boston_2002/newsid_1823000/1823822.stm -- -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
BBC News | SCI/TECH | Watching your every move
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1789000/1789157.stm -- -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
Re: CDR: BBC News | SCI/TECH | Watching your every move
Over here in the midwest USA these cameras have been springing up on the highways (mounted on the overhanging sodium lamps) like crazy. What's really amazing is that there is so little public *notice* of them (I realize the public may not bitch about it, but I _am_ surprised that the public *literally* doesn't *see* them). I've wondered greatly at how useful these cameras can be on major arteries where average speeds are in the 50-75mph range, but I guess the answer lies in their proliferation. On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Jim Choate wrote: Subject: CDR: BBC News | SCI/TECH | Watching your every move http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1789000/1789157.stm -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: BBC News | SCI/TECH | Watching your every move
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over here in the midwest USA these cameras have been springing up on the highways (mounted on the overhanging sodium lamps) like crazy. What's really amazing is that there is so little public *notice* of them (I realize the public may not bitch about it, but I _am_ surprised that the public *literally* doesn't *see* them). I've wondered greatly at how useful these cameras can be on major arteries where average speeds are in the 50-75mph range, but I guess the answer lies in their proliferation. They've put over a thousand up along I-35, 183, and Mo-Pac here in Austin in the last year alone. The traffic flow hasn't changed one whit... The cameras (at least the overt ones) are mounted on stand alone poles about 60ft tall with this really cool looking 'sheep catcher' lightning rod on top. No question what they are. It's also worth noting that most of the collection/distribution sites are placed under over-passes. -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
BBC Talking Point (tonight).... (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 04:00:50 -0500 Subject: BBC Talking Point (tonight) Sunday, 3 February, 2002, 15:19 GMT Globalisation: Capitalist evil or a way out of poverty? http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/progs/talkingpoint/latest.ram Excellent high level dicussion on pros and cons from both sides including feedback from the anti-globalization side (or to use Chomsky's wording the real globalization side) on alternatives for properly reducing barriers and proposed timescale/maturity for countries doing so. Open community board on topics here: http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1791000/1791105.stm
BBC News | AMERICAS | Prison camp pictures spark protests
We must keep those pics in mind when we catch those gimps Faustine and Aimee. Subject: White Stripes I Think I Smell A Rat Oh I think I smell a rat I think I smell a rat all you little kids seem to think you know just where it's at I think I smell a rat walking down the street carrying a baseball bat I think I smell a rat Oh I think I smell a rat I think I smell a rat all you little kids seem to think you know just where its at I think I smell a rat treating your mother and father like a welcome matt I think I smell a rat
BBC News | AMERICAS | Prison camp pictures spark protests
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(url) BBC story w/more details on UK mandatory ID, biometrics proposals
url for that was: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_1559000/1559245.stm Subject: BBC story w/more details on UK mandatory ID, biometrics proposals The home secretary indicated on BBC One's On the Record programme that his personal view was that a voluntary scheme would be pointless.
BBC story w/more details on UK mandatory ID, biometrics proposals
The home secretary indicated on BBC One's On the Record programme that his personal view was that a voluntary scheme would be pointless. --- Xeni Jardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.xeni.net | YIM: xeni_jardin Monday, 24 September, 2001, 04:55 GMT 05:55 UK ID cards 'high priority' for government The UK government is considering making identity cards compulsory as part of a crackdown on terrorism. But Home Secretary David Blunkett says he will not be rushed into making a snap announcement on cards or any other anti-terror measures. He said: I'm giving it a fairly high priority in terms of the discussions and the consideration behind the scenes. There are much broader issues about entitlement and citizenship and not merely security in terms of some form of identity card which we are looking at very seriously indeed. He also maintained that improvements in electronic thumb or fingerprint technology or even iris-prints meant the threat of forgery would not make the system redundant. ...
Slashdot | BBC: AOL, Earthlink Are 'Cooperating' With FBI
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BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | Who is Osama Bin Laden?
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bbc cell phone tracking story
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_874000/874419.stm Video postcards can be sent with 3rd-Generation phones By BBC News Online internet reporter Mark Ward The next generation of mobile phones will make it much easier for the police to carry out covert surveillance of citizens, say civil liberty campaigners. They warn that the combination of location revealing technology built into the phones and rights given to the police under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act mean the owners of such phones can be watched. They are advising people that using one of the new phones might make it hard for them to maintain their privacy. In recognition of the implications, phone companies are planning to let people conceal where they are at the touch of a button. Phone metre Although existing GSM handsets can be used as location devices, they typically only give a fix to within a couple of hundred meters. Future phones will direct you to the nearest Indian take away While this is good enough to tell drivers about traffic problems on the roads ahead, mobile phone companies are not using the technology for much more than this. Accuracy can be improved if handsets are fitted with special software and the mobile phone operators adopt complementary software for their networks. Using this technology, handsets can be pinpointed to within 50 metres of their actual position. Newer mobile phone technologies such as the General Packet Radio Services and Universal Mobile Telecommunications Services have more accurate locating systems built in. GPRS services are due to become widely available later this year and UMTS telephone networks are due to be switched on in 2002. Timing triangle Both GPRS and UMTS can locate a handset to within 15 metres by timing how long it takes packets of data to travel from different base stations to the handset. The handset then uses this to calculate where the phone is in the area covered by the base stations. "Service providers are going to do that calculation routinely so they can sell the data to companies that want to send you mail and messages," said Caspar Bowden, director of the Foundation for Information Policy Research. Often people will be happy to reveal their location and who they are, particularly if they are looking for a cash point or a good restaurant in a town they are visiting. Many companies are keen to use this location data so they can send special offers, such as cut-price cinema tickets, to anyone walking past their doors. Others are planning to combine location data and personal information to target people with adverts customised to match their preferences. Privacy protection But, said Mr Bowden, the newly passed Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act could allow for the data to be used for a more sinister purpose. He said the RIP Act regards the information used to locate phones as "communications data" and says police do not need a warrant to obtain it. As a result, he said, the police could use this information to conduct covert surveillance of anyone using such a phone. Phone companies are planning to let people opt in and out of the location-based services to ensure privacy is not compromised and people are not bombarded with messages they do not want to read. "It has always been our aim to enable the customer to decide whether or not to have his or her location sent to the network," said a spokesman for mobile service provider Orange. But all this means is that the information is not being passed on to advertisers, said Mr Bowden. "Whether or not you want to receive ads, the location data will be collected," he said.
