Strange spam
I just got this spam, and I was wondering if it was a honey-pot. Anyone? The site exists, and advertises games and movies for download. -- Peter Fairbrother Frank You've gotta see this website: http://209.132.227.38/lotr/index.htm I just downloaded Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers and I'm now watching it on my computer. Picture quality is great and it was tottally free. They've got a whole bunch of other games and movies as well. Take a look.
Re: Brinworld: Samsung SCH-V310 camcorder phone
The whole Cell Phones - The Next Generation thing has been a pure marketing scam from the beginning. Experience demonstrates that any term with generation in it is pure BS, technically and financially. Most advances in technology are illusions created by dumbing down of the populace. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary
Holy shit! I could done better than this! (ie, I THOUGHT this would be outrageous and amusing but it kinda sucked black prison dick.) -TD From: Sleeping Vayu - Vayu Anonymous Remailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary Date: 12 Jan 2003 20:55:51 - At 09:33 PM 01/10/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: For all I know, I've been posting on a list haunted by a bunch of crypto-white supremists (crypto, as in secret, hidden). And if that's the case, then I want to know. Figured I'd ask for clarification on this issue. (And from some of May's comments in the past, it wasn't clear to me.) As a matter of fact, I and Tim May regularly go nigger hunting in the hills, me with my SKS. Tim May is not so keen on those commie guns, and usually has a good old American AR15 Of course, in the hills around here there usually are no damned niggers, but sometimes we get a pig. Niggers are pretty rare. To catch a nigger, you need the right bait. The tricky thing is to lure a nigger out of his native haunts, to someplace far away and lonely with no one knowing where he went. Fortunately a friend of ours sometimes hires some nigger pussy to give him a good time in his house out in the woods. Then of course the lady tells her numerous boyfriends about all the good stuff he has, and pretty soon there are some niggers out to rob him. They usually get caught in one of his traps, and if a couple of days pass and it seems that no one is missing that nigger, I and Tim May have a it of fun killing it. It is not really as sporting as finding one in hills, so usually we torture it a bit then give it a short head start, track it through the hills by bloodstains, and then shoot it. There are quite a few entertaining ways of torturing a nigger before you kill it. Books are one of the best -- they have the same effect on a nigger as kryptonite on superman. _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary
My thought was that James is some kind of Fed. I suspect Chomsky is one guy they most don't want around these days. His accusations on the Chomsky dis website were technicalities and hair-splitting, even somantic. Chomsky is an in-your-face fuckin' giant. And even if you don't agree wih his politics, ya GOTTA love a guy who is that much of a pain in the ass! And, wrt some issues of US national and foreign policy, he's totally all over dat shit. -TD Chomky's da MAN...enjoy him before he 'mysteriously' dies. From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:13:32 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: For all I know, I've been posting on a list haunted by a bunch of crypto-white supremists (crypto, as in secret, hidden). And if that's the case, then I want to know. Figured I'd ask for clarification on this issue. (And from some of May's comments in the past, it wasn't clear to me.) If that makes me a moron, so be it. There is definitely a faction of this sort on this list, has always been. Will always be. I just lump the whole kit and kaboodle into the 'CACL Contingent'. May's one of the leaders of that contingent. He's into 'freedom for me, but not for thee'. BTW...You're not the guy with the Chomsky Dis website are you? He's the one who claims Chomsky is lying and then retracts the statement. What he's got is exactly what Chomsky called it 'a joke' (and I'm no big supporter of Chomsky, either his science or his politics). I'm still waiting for James to provide the other references he claims are on that page, but aren't. He claims to have done a thorough study of Chomsky's work and developed a list of bad references and such. Though he has steadfastly refused to share it with anyone (and it is -not- on that page as he has claimed on this list several times). I asked one (and ask again) what references in 'Deterring Democracy' are bogus? I'm still waiting for a clear, honest answer to that one. I suspect it is a futile wait. -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org _ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: RIAA turns against Hollings bill
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Nomen Nescio wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:25:01 +0100 (CET) From: Nomen Nescio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RIAA turns against Hollings bill The New York Times is reporting at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/technology/14CND-PIRACY.html that the Recording Industry Association of America, along with two computer and technology industry trade groups, has agreed not to seek new government regulations to mandate technological controls for copyright protection. This appears to refer primarily to the Hollings bill, the CBDTPA, which had already been struck a blow when Hollings lost his committee chairmanship due to the Democrats losing Senate leadership. Most observers see this latest step as being the last nail in the coffin for the CBDTPA. Some months ago there were those who were predicting that Trusted Computing technology, as embodied in the TCPA and Palladium proposals, would be mandated by the Hollings bill. They said that all this talk of voluntary implementations was just a smoke screen while the players worked behind the scenes to pass laws that would mandate TCPA and Palladium in their most restrictive forms. It was said that Linux would be banned, that computers would no longer be able to run software that we can use today. We would cease to be the real owners of our computers, others would be root on them. A whole host of calamaties were forecast. If a simple UNIX command like # cp file1 file2 requires the invocation of a network protocol in order to check whether file1 is blacklisted, what's wrong with the observation that the issuer of the cp command isn't omnipotent root anymore? He rather shares his root privileges with the peer instance of the network protocol. How does this latest development change the picture? Not much. The laws are only part of the problem. The problem is that there is a business case for the big players in software and hardware industry. See Anderson's TCPA/Pd-FAQ, question 23, [...]classic definition of an exploitative cartel - an industry agreement that changes the terms of trade so as to diminish consumer surplus. at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html If there is no Hollings bill, does this mean that Trusted Computing will be voluntary, as its proponents have always claimed? And if we no longer have such a threat of a mandated Trusted Computing technology, how bad is it for the system to be offered in a free market? And how bad is it for the public to be told about possible consequences? Let technology companies decide whether to offer Palladium technology on their computers or not. Let content producers decide whether to use Palladium to protect their content or not. Let consumers decide whether to purchase and enable Palladium on their systems or not. Agreed. But the consumer should make an informed choice. How many consumers of a certain IBM ThinkPad knew it came with a TCPA-installed motherboard? How many knew what TCPA actually means? How many bought it just because in bold letters there was security written on the poster. How many did know an answer to the question security for whom?. Why is it so bad for people to freely make their own decisions about how best to live their lives? Seems to be a purely rhetorical question. Cypherpunks of all people should be the last to advocate limiting the choices of others. Thankfully, it looks like freedom may win this round, despite the efforts of cypherpunks and online freedom advocates to eliminate this new technology option. If the exploitative cartel becomes a reality, the choices of others will be limited, too. This would then be a direct consequence of the TCPA/Pd-advocacy. Are you trying to suggest to question advocacy in general or only advocacy against TCPA/Pd? Regards Damian Weber
The Plague
from today's white house briefing... QAnd if I can ask you one final question -- what can you tell us about the Texas Tech problem, bubonic plague samples apparently missing from a lab there? MR. FLEISCHER: I'm aware of the report, and this is a matter that the FBI and the CDC have been in touch with Texas Tech about. And anything further will come from them. That's the extent of everything I have on this now. QThey're saying that the White House has been briefed on this. MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct. QYour briefing was nothing more than -- MR. FLEISCHER: This is information that is just coming in to the White House and has been for just a short period of time, as well as to the FBI. I'm not in a position to give you any additional information at this time about it, and it's something that is being talked to with the FBI and the CDC to ascertain what all the facts are. QNot even to the extent of how much is missing, or how long it's been missing? MR. FLEISCHER: No, these are all the facts that are being ascertained as we speak.
Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:15:57AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: On the other hand, if the US were following the traditional model for defense rather than having a standing army stomping around the world, it's highly unlikely that somebody like Al Qaeda would have attacked the World Trade Center, because they wouldn't have had their grievances about the US infidel forces stationed in the Holy Land of Saudi Arabia. They *might* have attacked Exxon headquarters because of Exxon mercs stationed in the Holy Land. Bullshit. First off, the same groups would have been torqued off that we were guilty of cultural imperalism by allowing (or assisting) american companies to push product over there. Secondly, other groups would have been just as pissed off at us for *not* helping them. This was one of those catch-22s. -- Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal | Quit smoking: with are half-wits.--Chris Klein| 268d, 13h ago | petro@ | bounty.org
Re: Pigs Kill Family Pet
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 02:22:18AM +0100, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: Instead, any cop who shows such blatant disrespect for life and property as the Tennessee cops in question should himself be shot in the face with a shotgun, and left on the side of the road to rot. We're talking about a state where a Senator does a give and go on a motorcyclist and managed to get a section of (nearby) highway named after him. http://www.ama-cycle.org/terrybarnard/ -- One cannot look at holding people accountable as a | Quit smoking: solution to these problems, | 268d, 14h ago -- Robert Mueller, Director, FBI.| petro@ | bounty.org
Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 10:29:22PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: At 02:25 PM 01/13/2003 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: The hunting post was obviously a joke, as the final line made clear. The real joke was that some readers would fail to see that the first line was a joke, would believe that cypherpunks really do go hunting black people. Now, hunting black _helicopters_ is a different matter, you realize What is the recommened minimum caliber for taking one, and how does one get it to the taxidermist? -- As someone who has worked both in private industry and in | Quit smoking: academia, whenever I hear about academics wanting to teach | 268d, 13h ago ethics to people in business, I want to puke. | petro@ --Thomas Sowell. | bounty.org
Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 18:09, Petro wrote: Now, hunting black _helicopters_ is a different matter, you realize What is the recommened minimum caliber for taking one, and how does one get it to the taxidermist? I don't have a copy of _Unintended Consequences_ handy, but I think Henry used a 20mm. The heli was pickled, not mounted. -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. --Michael Shirley
Cypherpunks agree to develop voluntary speech code
Posted on Tue, Jan. 14, 2003 NEW YORK (Routers) - Cypherpunks gathering for their annual conference decided today to adopt a voluntarily-developed speech code for their members, covering what they may write, say, or code. The voluntary standards will be submitted to the Department of Justice for review. The role of government, if needed at all, should be limited to enforcing compliance with voluntarily developed speech standards reflecting consensus among affected interests. ...more in original article... -- --Tim May (Mandatory Voluntary Internet Self-Rating Follows) V-CHIP CONTENT WARNING: THIS POST IS RATED: R, V, NPC, RI, S, I13. [For processing by the required-by-1998 V-chips, those reading this post from an archive must set their V-chip to 42-0666. I will not be held responsible for posts incorrectly filtered-out by a V-chip that has been by-passed, hot-chipped, or incorrectly programmed.] ***WARNING!*** It has become necessary to warn potential readers of my messages before they proceed further. This warning may not fully protect me against criminal or civil proceedings, but it may be treated as a positive attempt to obey the various and increasing numbers of laws. * Under the ***TELECOM ACT OF 1996***, minor CHILDREN (under the age of 18) may not read or handle this message under any circumstances. If you are under 18, delete this message NOW. Also, if you are developmentally disabled, irony-impaired, emotionally traumatized, schizophrenic, suffering PMS, affected by Humor Deprivation Syndrom (HDS), or under the care of a doctor, then the TELECOM ACT OF 1996 may apply to you as well, even if you are 18. If you fall into one of these categories and are not considered competent to judge for yourself what you are reading, DELETE this message NOW. * Under the UTAH PROTECTION OF CHILDREN ACT OF 1996, those under the age of 21 may not read this post. All residents of Utah, and Mormons elsewhere, must install the M-Chip. * Under the PROTECTION OF THE REICH laws, residents of Germany may not read this post. * Under the MERCIFUL SHIELD OF ALLAH (Praise be to Him!) holy interpretations of the Koran of the following countries (but not limited to this list) you may not read this post if you are a FEMALE OF ANY AGE: Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Algeria, Lebanon, Morocco, Tunisia, Yemen, Oman, Syria, Bahrain, and the Palestinian Authority. Non-female persons may also be barred from reading this post, depending on the settings of your I-Chip. * Under the proposed CHINESE INTERNET laws, covering The People's Republic of China, Formosa, Hong Kong, Macao, Malaysia, and parts of several surrrounding territories, the rules are so nebulous and unspecified that I cannot say whether you are allowed to read this. Thus, you must SUBMIT any post you wish to read to your local authorities for further filtering. * In Singapore, merely be RECEIVING this post you have violated the will of Lee Kwan Yu. Report to your local police office to receive your caning. * Finally, if you are barrred from contact with the Internet, or protected by court order from being disturbed by thoughts which may disturb you, or covered by protective orders, it is up to you to adjust the settings of your V-Chip to ensure that my post does not reach you. *** THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN COMPLYING WITH THESE LAWS ***
Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants
At 10:40 PM 1/13/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 09:23 PM, John Kelsey wrote: ... Personally, I was shocked, *shocked*, to see the supreme court make a decision on the basis of politics instead of a careful reading of the constitution. Everything the Supreme Court did in the 2000 election was fully justified. The Dems lost, then tried to change the rules. That's not the way it looked to me. My impression was that both sides were willing to do anything that wouldn't actually get them thrown in jail to sway the outcome of the election, but that Bush had been dealt a better hand. The Florida court decision (with a big Democratic majority) went for the Democrats, the SC decision (with a Republican majority) went for the Republicans. Essentially everyone involved made decisions that were in the interests of their party winning the presidency. But seeing the SC make a highly-political decision that upset so many Democrats was entertaining, given the usual pattern of Conservatives complaining about activist, politicized courts, while Liberals explain that the Constitution needs to be interpreted in light of current events. (Note that with a more Conservative court, we can expect this pattern to reverse, just as Conservatives were complaining about too much Presidential power during the Clinton administration, but in favor of greater Presidential power in the Reagan and Bush years.) ... I'm not happy with Bush, to repeat this mantra that Gore/Lieberman actually won is knavish at best. That's not what I said at all. (And for what it's worth, I don't think Gore would be doing very much differently right now. It's not like Bush is sitting around, coming up with proposals for added surveilance and security on his own--these are recommendations from various parts of the bureaucracy, and those recommendations carry a lot of weight because nobody wants to be seen to have ignored the next set of warnings.) --Tim May --John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Plague
At 07:46 PM 1/15/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote: On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 07:18 PM, Andri Isidoro Fernandes Esteves wrote: A huge fraction of the population wasn't in the cities and town at all, where the plague spread most virulently, and so their survivors didn't inherit immunity. The best protection against the plague was to go to the country, as in rural Italy, France, England, etc. Those who escaped the plague in many cases were never actually exposed to the bacillus at all. I believe Sir Isaac Newton wrote his Principia on optics, physics, and astronomy and laid the foundations for differential and integral calculus while hole up for almost two years in a rural area of Lincolnshire during a series of outbreaks beginning in 1665. if America were tempted to ''become the dictatress of the world, she would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit.'' What empires lavish abroad, they cannot spend on good republican government at home: on hospitals or roads or schools. A distended military budget only aggravates America's continuing failure to keep its egalitarian promise to itself. -- John Quincy Adams (extended)
Re: Desert Spam
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: Does anyone know a source for a spam list for US military? It would be great to start spamming them with messages about how much they are hated by the entire world, how little real support they have at home - We hope you don't come home, sucker, unless its in a bodybag. - and other nice, morale destroying sentiments. A search on *.mil might get you a few addresses :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: Desert Spam
Does anyone know a source for a spam list for US military? It would be great to start spamming them with messages about how much they are hated by the entire world, how little real support they have at home - We hope you don't come home, sucker, unless its in a bodybag. - and other nice, morale destroying sentiments.
Re: Strange spam
I just got this spam, and I was wondering if it was a honey-pot. Anyone? The site exists, and advertises games and movies for download. Classical porn and warez scam. The site itself is an attempt to extract your email out of you for the purpose of spamming you. Offers you a set of nicely looking warez for download. When you click on the link, a window opens which prompts you for a password (The files are available only for members, membership is 100% free, see instructions here, the instructions say to send them your mail address, they then mail you there either the password or link to the password page (to verify the mail), where you get the password (it's premium), then the site redirects you to www.easywarez.com. You can find both the password and the target site from the javascript in the page source, though they are trying to obfuscate it by writing it down as sequence of ASCII values of the letters, eg. String.fromCharCode(112,114,101,109,105,117,109) is premium. Beware of other annoyances, ie. ActiveX downloads of dial-a-porn programs. Hadn't found them on a first glance there, but they can lurk on some of the linked pages. In sum, the site seems to be designed to automatically harvest high-quality verified email addresses to sell them to spam business. Shaddack, the Mad Scientist
Re: Strange spam
Thomas Shaddack wrote: I just got this spam, and I was wondering if it was a honey-pot. Anyone? The site exists, and advertises games and movies for download. Classical porn and warez scam. The site itself is an attempt to extract your email out of you for the purpose of spamming you. [..] Beware of other annoyances, ie. ActiveX downloads of dial-a-porn programs. Hadn't found them on a first glance there, but they can lurk on some of the linked pages. In sum, the site seems to be designed to automatically harvest high-quality verified email addresses to sell them to spam business. Would the spam business _want_ email addresses from people who download ripped games/ movies? Or would eg RIAA be more motivated? -- Peter Fairbrother
Re: RIAA turns against Hollings bill
Nomen Nescio schrieb am Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 01:25:01AM +0100: [...] a threat of a mandated Trusted Computing technology, how bad is it for the system to be offered in a free market? Let technology companies decide whether to offer Palladium technology on their computers or not. Let content producers decide whether to use Palladium to protect their content or not. Let consumers decide whether to purchase and enable Palladium on their systems or not. Why is it so bad for people to freely make their own decisions about how best to live their lives? Cypherpunks of all people should be the last to advocate limiting the choices of others. Thankfully, it looks like freedom may win this round, despite the efforts of cypherpunks and online freedom advocates to eliminate this new technology option. Just to remind you of the arguments already known and voiced here even more often: to freely make their own decisions is possible IFF there is no one exerting force (absence of a law, and the fall of the CBDTPA may help in this respect) AND people have alternatives to choose from. The latter may not be the case in several years from now, CBDTPA or not. If you only can buy TCPA boards and your favourite OS will only run your favourite content when some TCPA microkernel is provably running, how's that compatible with free decisions? (No, I cannot build my own mainboard, sorry.) Do you really think the industry will ask the average user whether he wants a TCPA-enabled board or not? Do you really think the average user will even understand the question? Driving a car is not an option if the supermarket is 50 miles from your home and there's no bus station. Regards, Birger Toedtmann
Re: RIAA turns against Hollings bill
Nomen said: How does this latest development change the picture? If there is no Hollings bill, does this mean that Trusted Computing will be voluntary, as its proponents have always claimed? And if we no longer have such a threat of a mandated Trusted Computing technology, how bad is it for the system to be offered in a free market? John Gilmore replied: The detailed RIAA statement tries to leave exactly this impression, but it's the usual smokescreen. Check the sentence in their 7 policy principles joint statement, principle 6: ... The role of government, if needed at all, should be limited to enforcing compliance with voluntarily developed functional specifications reflecting consensus among affected interests. I.e. it's the same old game. TCPA is such a voluntarily developed functional spec. So is the broadcast flag, and the HDCP copy protection of your video cable, and IBM's copy-protection for hard disk drives. Everything is all voluntary, until some competitor reverse engineers one of these, and builds a product that lets the information get out of the little consensus boxes. Consumers want that, but it can't be allowed to happen. THEN the role of government is to eliminate that competitor by outlawing them and their product. This is exactly correct. Wonks on both sides in DC been drawing this distinction quite clearly for some time. Yesterday's RIAA concession is in fact, reiteration of their established position. The only thing different today is MPAA now seems even further outside the mainstream of American legal tradition. Will Rodger Director Public Policy CCIA www.ccianet.org
RIAA turns against Hollings bill
The New York Times is reporting at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/technology/14CND-PIRACY.html that the Recording Industry Association of America, along with two computer and technology industry trade groups, has agreed not to seek new government regulations to mandate technological controls for copyright protection. This appears to refer primarily to the Hollings bill, the CBDTPA, which had already been struck a blow when Hollings lost his committee chairmanship due to the Democrats losing Senate leadership. Most observers see this latest step as being the last nail in the coffin for the CBDTPA. Some months ago there were those who were predicting that Trusted Computing technology, as embodied in the TCPA and Palladium proposals, would be mandated by the Hollings bill. They said that all this talk of voluntary implementations was just a smoke screen while the players worked behind the scenes to pass laws that would mandate TCPA and Palladium in their most restrictive forms. It was said that Linux would be banned, that computers would no longer be able to run software that we can use today. We would cease to be the real owners of our computers, others would be root on them. A whole host of calamaties were forecast. How does this latest development change the picture? If there is no Hollings bill, does this mean that Trusted Computing will be voluntary, as its proponents have always claimed? And if we no longer have such a threat of a mandated Trusted Computing technology, how bad is it for the system to be offered in a free market? Let technology companies decide whether to offer Palladium technology on their computers or not. Let content producers decide whether to use Palladium to protect their content or not. Let consumers decide whether to purchase and enable Palladium on their systems or not. Why is it so bad for people to freely make their own decisions about how best to live their lives? Cypherpunks of all people should be the last to advocate limiting the choices of others. Thankfully, it looks like freedom may win this round, despite the efforts of cypherpunks and online freedom advocates to eliminate this new technology option.
Re: RIAA turns against Hollings bill
How does this latest development change the picture? If there is no Hollings bill, does this mean that Trusted Computing will be voluntary, as its proponents have always claimed? And if we no longer have such a threat of a mandated Trusted Computing technology, how bad is it for the system to be offered in a free market? The detailed RIAA statement tries to leave exactly this impression, but it's the usual smokescreen. Check the sentence in their 7 policy principles joint statement, principle 6: ... The role of government, if needed at all, should be limited to enforcing compliance with voluntarily developed functional specifications reflecting consensus among affected interests. I.e. it's the same old game. TCPA is such a voluntarily developed functional spec. So is the broadcast flag, and the HDCP copy protection of your video cable, and IBM's copy-protection for hard disk drives. Everything is all voluntary, until some competitor reverse engineers one of these, and builds a product that lets the information get out of the little consensus boxes. Consumers want that, but it can't be allowed to happen. THEN the role of government is to eliminate that competitor by outlawing them and their product. John
RE: RIAA turns against Hollings bill
John Gilmore[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: Nomen writes: How does this latest development change the picture? If there is no Hollings bill, does this mean that Trusted Computing will be voluntary, as its proponents have always claimed? And if we no longer have such a threat of a mandated Trusted Computing technology, how bad is it for the system to be offered in a free market? The detailed RIAA statement tries to leave exactly this impression, but it's the usual smokescreen. Check the sentence in their 7 policy principles joint statement, principle 6: ... The role of government, if needed at all, should be limited to enforcing compliance with voluntarily developed functional specifications reflecting consensus among affected interests. I.e. it's the same old game. TCPA is such a voluntarily developed functional spec. So is the broadcast flag, and the HDCP copy protection of your video cable, and IBM's copy-protection for hard disk drives. Everything is all voluntary, until some competitor reverse engineers one of these, and builds a product that lets the information get out of the little consensus boxes. Consumers want that, but it can't be allowed to happen. THEN the role of government is to eliminate that competitor by outlawing them and their product. John enforcing compliance with voluntarily developed functional specifications appears to be NewSpeak for: Let the RIAA, not Congress, write the laws, and then send in Men With Guns to enforce them. Peter Trei
Re: RIAA turns against Hollings bill
I have a news analysis up at News.com that, perhaps, may shed some light on what's actually going on: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-980671.html -Declan On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 01:25:01AM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: The New York Times is reporting at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/technology/14CND-PIRACY.html that the Recording Industry Association of America, along with two computer and technology industry trade groups, has agreed not to seek new government regulations to mandate technological controls for copyright protection. This appears to refer primarily to the Hollings bill, the CBDTPA, which had already been struck a blow when Hollings lost his committee chairmanship due to the Democrats losing Senate leadership. Most observers see this latest step as being the last nail in the coffin for the CBDTPA. Some months ago there were those who were predicting that Trusted Computing technology, as embodied in the TCPA and Palladium proposals, would be mandated by the Hollings bill. They said that all this talk of voluntary implementations was just a smoke screen while the players worked behind the scenes to pass laws that would mandate TCPA and Palladium in their most restrictive forms. It was said that Linux would be banned, that computers would no longer be able to run software that we can use today. We would cease to be the real owners of our computers, others would be root on them. A whole host of calamaties were forecast. [...]
Re: Desert Spam
At 03:44 PM 1/16/03 +0100, Anonymous wrote: Does anyone know a source for a spam list for US military? Use google. Search for @*.mil Also large bureaucracies use standard forms like First.Surname@blah or FSurname@blah Be subtle. Ask them to disable their weapons and defect. Tell them you don't hate americans, just the regime. Make sure you don't post such info where furringers will see it ---they might abuse it. Also all that furringer mail coming into .mil will annoy DIA
Fear and Loathing in Afghanistan
We were somewhere around Kandahar, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like I feel a bit light headed, maybe you should fly And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like antiaircraft fire, all swooping and screeching and diving around the plane, and a voice was screaming: Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals? Canadians? (attorney says: What are you yelling about?) Never mind, its your turn to fly. No point in mentioning those canooks, I thought, the poor bastard will see them soon enough. We had two go-pills, some anti depressants, and a bag of Xanax for when we got back. Not that we needed all this for the trip, but once you get locked in a serious patrol mission, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that worried me was the dexies, there is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in a fully-loaded F-16 crazed on military speed. Except maybe the politician who sent him.
Re: Desert Spam
Major Variola said: Be subtle. Ask them to disable their weapons and defect. Tell them you don't hate americans, just the regime. Subtle? I was thinking more of billboards and posters around every military base -- So long, GI We'll have lots of fun with your wives and girlfriends while you're gone. Don't hurry back. In fact, don't come back at all unless it's in a body bag. And then we'll come around to piss on your grave.
Petro's catch-22 incorrect (Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants)
At 03:20 PM 1/15/03 -0800, Petro wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:15:57AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: On the other hand, if the US were following the traditional model for defense rather than having a standing army stomping around the world, it's highly unlikely that somebody like Al Qaeda would have attacked the World Trade Center, because they wouldn't have had their grievances about the US infidel forces stationed in the Holy Land of Saudi Arabia. They *might* have attacked Exxon headquarters because of Exxon mercs stationed in the Holy Land. Bullshit. First off, the same groups would have been torqued off that we were guilty of cultural imperalism by allowing (or assisting) american companies to push product over there. They would simply have had a social-boycott or a government-imposed ban. Both are used in the US. (Only the government-imposed one uses force, but its generally invisible bureaucratic violence by Customs workers at borders.) Secondly, other groups would have been just as pissed off at us for *not* helping them. Not if the USG had no policy towards anyone. One more time, George, for Petro: Trade with all, make treaties with none, and beware of foreign entanglements. -George Washington I guess RTFF: RTF Fatwa
Re: The Plague
At 03:18 AM 1/16/03 +, Andri Isidoro Fernandes Esteves wrote: And all westerns have some level of aquired imunity, for we are the Surely you mean inherited, not acquired. descendents of the plague survivors. See _Guns Germs and Steel_ Note however, without occasional plagues, a population would lose resistance...
Re: The Plague
On Thursday, 16 de January de 2003 02:20, Tyler Durden wrote: Actually, this may turn out to be more an academic issue than anything. If someone wanted bubonic or pnuemonic samples, all he'd have to do is just grab someone from the western hospitals that contract it each year. Contrary to popular belief, it still exists, but we have effective treatments against it. (Although when I was in China, there were cities in southern Xinjiang that had a bad bubonic problem and had to be shut from the outside world. Much worse was the HepA epidemic that hit Shanghai at the time...stores and schools were oncverted into Hep wards, and you could go there provided you brought your own bed.) -TD And all westerns have some level of aquired imunity, for we are the descendents of the plague survivors. (Actualy, in the dark ages, it wasn't only one plague.. it was several plagues (mutants and new pathogens) that spread wavelike through europe... the populations died mainly because of sistematically reduced imunity) Greetings aife
Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary
-- On 14 Jan 2003 at 21:48, Tyler Durden wrote: My thought was that James is some kind of Fed. I suspect Chomsky is one guy they most don't want around these days. His accusations on the Chomsky dis website were technicalities and hair-splitting, even somantic. Liar: Chomsky claimed that : : such journals as the Far Eastern Economic Review, : : the London Economist, the Melbourne Journal of : : Politics, and others elsewhere, have provided : : analyses by highly qualified specialists who have : : studied the full range of evidence available, and : : who concluded that executions have numbered at most : : in the thousands But in fact the at most is Chomsky's lie, not present in the articles he cited. Someone who read the economist and the Far Eastern Economic Review at the time would rather have concluded that the death rate from brutality and mistreatment was many hundreds of thousands, likely over a million, and that the executions proabbly numbered at least a hundred thousand or so. According to Chomsky these highly qualified specialists also made :: repeated discoveries that massacre reports were :: false. Of course no such discoveries are to be found in the material he cites, and his article appeared shortly after the massacres reported by the refugees were devastatingly confirmed by when such a massacre occurred on the border. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG Hbp33+OpO++a/lQY1xLV9c3yccNAe3n+c3apD50B 4tlZyjrzU1UNgJfno/6lepfIRPdedtsG1UAQ8tRVn
Re: The Plague
Actually, this may turn out to be more an academic issue than anything. If someone wanted bubonic or pnuemonic samples, all he'd have to do is just grab someone from the western hospitals that contract it each year. Contrary to popular belief, it still exists, but we have effective treatments against it. (Although when I was in China, there were cities in southern Xinjiang that had a bad bubonic problem and had to be shut from the outside world. Much worse was the HepA epidemic that hit Shanghai at the time...stores and schools were oncverted into Hep wards, and you could go there provided you brought your own bed.) -TD From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Plague Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:59:42 -0500 from today's white house briefing... QAnd if I can ask you one final question -- what can you tell us about the Texas Tech problem, bubonic plague samples apparently missing from a lab there? MR. FLEISCHER: I'm aware of the report, and this is a matter that the FBI and the CDC have been in touch with Texas Tech about. And anything further will come from them. That's the extent of everything I have on this now. QThey're saying that the White House has been briefed on this. MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct. QYour briefing was nothing more than -- MR. FLEISCHER: This is information that is just coming in to the White House and has been for just a short period of time, as well as to the FBI. I'm not in a position to give you any additional information at this time about it, and it's something that is being talked to with the FBI and the CDC to ascertain what all the facts are. QNot even to the extent of how much is missing, or how long it's been missing? MR. FLEISCHER: No, these are all the facts that are being ascertained as we speak. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Israeli Death Squads to Operate in US
Here's an interesting news story which quotes a bunch of sources as claiming that Israel plans to commit targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, and quotes some other sources as saying the story is rubbish. There is some historical precedent here. On July 21st, 1973, an Israeli assassination team thought they had located a PLO security officer on Israel's hit list, and mistakenly ambushed a waiter outside a movie theatre in Norway, and gunned him down in front of his pregnant wife. Interesting reading... http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030115-035849-6156r - Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations By Richard Sale UPI Intelligence Correspondent From the Washington Politics Policy Desk Published 1/15/2003 7:14 PM Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen former and currently serving U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with United Press International. But an official at the Israeli Embassy in Washington told UPI: That is rubbish. ... -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Pete Townshend and Pee-Wee
Remember that age verification service which got busted a few years back when the feds managed to convince a jury that the owners were the madams of a child porn bordello, based on two overseas sites which featured illegal material? http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.2001.08.06-2001.08.12/msg00433.html Well, after managing to entrap a few hundred US citizens into ordering KP from the feds, the feds are now grepping the list of 250,000 customers by country, and shipping the data off to other nations so that they may attempt to lure their own citizens as well. In the UK, this is of course the currently being reported on Operation Ore which is nailing pervy brits right and left, including Who musician Pete Townshend. In the US, the distortion continues full speed, with the age verification service still being referred to as The World's Largest Child Porn Ring, with 250,000 child porn customers paying millions for pay per view access to over 6000 sites featuring pictures of babies being raped, which is a small part of the insatiable demand for the child sexual abuse pictures featured on over 100,000 web sites, or so Connie Chung tells us. Well, at least it makes being in the age verification business exciting. In the midst of all this frivolity, the Village Voice has written a very intelligent article on the current charges against Paul Reubens, aka Pee Wee Herman, which apparently stem from an occasional minor featured in his vintage collection of 1960's muscle magazines, and a few grainy possible underage males in his now meticulously combed through collection of antique 8mm gay porn. The Village Voice: Features: Richard Goldstein: Persecuting Pee Wee http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0303/goldstein.php All this, and a dead Echols too. It's been quite a week. :) -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: Desert Spam
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: There is a new oil pipe line being completed through turkey-caspian sea.once thats over the war should start. Russia will never give US its support-the russians are looking big to invest in iraqi oil once the u.n sanctions are lifted.Most of asia also derives oil from iraq. That's the whole point. The US is going to steal the oil right out from under the noses of the russians and Indians. They might even sell it to them :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: Desert Spam
hi, Iraqi high ranking officers had the oppurtunity to defect in the 1991 war too. By the way how many of these officers who go for battle ever check e-mail. --- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: radio broadcasts and leaflets dropped from airplanes instead. . This method was a total failure in afghanistan.It just makes we wonder why u.s is going with this war-they really dont have the international support.most of the world back chats on the u.s but coz these nations need the u.s,they simply go with u.s Saddam has been preparing for this war for years. There is a new oil pipe line being completed through turkey-caspian sea.once thats over the war should start. Russia will never give US its support-the russians are looking big to invest in iraqi oil once the u.n sanctions are lifted.Most of asia also derives oil from iraq. Sarath. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
RE: The Plague
André Isidoro Fernandes Esteves[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On Thursday, 16 de January de 2003 02:20, Tyler Durden wrote: [...] Contrary to popular belief, it still exists, but we have effective treatments against it. [...] -TD And all westerns have some level of aquired imunity, for we are the descendents of the plague survivors. (Actualy, in the dark ages, it wasn't only one plague.. it was several plagues (mutants and new pathogens) that spread wavelike through europe... the populations died mainly because of sistematically reduced imunity) The weirdest twist on this is that a genetic variant (CCR5-delta 32) found among descendents of the survivors of the Black Death (ie, europeans) also seems to provide protection against HIV infection. About 10% of europeans have this variant from one parent. 1% have it from both. A single copy slows down HIV significantly, but the lucky 1% appear to be totally immune. Only 2% of central asians have this varient at all, and it is entirely absent among africans, native americans, and east asians. Check http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf119/sf119p05.htm Peter Trei
Re: An Alternative Police Force (was Re: RFE/RL Crime and Corruption Watch Vol. 3, No. 2, 16 January 2003)
At 02:46 PM 1/16/2003 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 4:10 PM + on 1/16/03, RFE/RL List Manager wrote: AN ALTERNATIVE POLICE FORCE By Roman Kupchinsky A good related paper can be found at http://www.essex.ac.uk/ecpr/jointsessions/grenoble/papers/w8/armao.pdf entitled, A STANDARD CRIME: WHY MAFIA WIN SUCCESS. (a rather poor title probably reflecting the somewhat poor translation from Italian.) steve
An Alternative Police Force (was Re: RFE/RL Crime and Corruption Watch Vol. 3, No. 2, 16 January 2003)
At 4:10 PM + on 1/16/03, RFE/RL List Manager wrote: AN ALTERNATIVE POLICE FORCE By Roman Kupchinsky Police formations in the states of the former Soviet Union are a formidable force in those societies. In Russia, there is the Interior Ministry (MVD) with its subunit, the State Automobile Inspectorate (GAI), perhaps better described as the traffic police. There is also the Tax Police, armed with Kalashnikovs and hand grenades instead of law degrees and briefcases, collecting taxes from reluctant businessmen who might have supported the wrong party during the last election. There is the Military Police (mainly to protect soldiers from each other), and there are armed units of the Federal Security Service (FSB): the ALPHA units (special-operations units) and the border troops. In all, the number of personnel among the police forces of Russia is almost twice as high as the number of individuals in the military armed forces. In this respect, post-Soviet Russia is still far from resembling the United States, where law-enforcement agencies comprise: city and state police; the FBI; armed units of the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA); the Treasury Department; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms; the National Park Service (which even has a SWAT team); the Customs Service; the Immigration and Naturalization Service border patrol; and the military police (serving the same function as the Russian military police). State National Guard units are waiting in the wings and can be placed on active duty in case of emergency (such as the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968) to augment the civilian police. Other federal agencies employ police and special agents with the power to make arrests and the authority to carry firearms. These agencies include the U.S. Postal Service; the Bureau of Indian Affairs Office of Law Enforcement and the under the U.S. Department of the Interior; the U.S. Forest Service under the U.S. Department of Agriculture; Federal Air Marshals under the U.S. Department of Transportation; and the recently formed Airport Security Service. In all, police and detectives held about 834,000 jobs in 2000, according to the U.S. Department of Labor. About 80 percent were employed by local governments. State police agencies employed another 13 percent, and various federal agencies employed a further 6 percent. In addition to the above-mentioned local and federal formations, there are other well-armed security forces that supplement government law enforcement in the United States (as in Russia): private security forces. They are not only Pinkerton Guards in armored cars or security guards at the gates of adult communities in Florida -- there are hundreds of thousands of men and women who guard federal prisons or buildings in Washington, D.C., or are used by commercial entities for sundry guard and security duties. In Russia, there are some 500,000 well-armed men, many of them former members of elite Soviet Army units like the Spetznaz or the former KGB, who were recruited into better-paid jobs after the collapse of the Soviet Union. They were recruited to protect, among other clients, companies with dubious reputations -- some of which were subject to hostile takeovers by competitors. Today, the 15,000 registered private-security companies in Russia employ more people then the German Bundeswehr, the largest army in Europe. In his presentation entitled Security and Rule-Enforcement in Russian Business: The Role of the 'Mafia' and the State and available on the Harvard University website (http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~ponars/POLICY%20MEMOS/Volkov79.html), Vadim Volkov explained the rise of these private protectors of the new capitalist order in Russia: As the speed of liberalization was greater than that of institution building, the emerging markets spontaneously developed alternative mechanisms of protection and enforcement. These involved various private groups and agencies that managed organized force: criminal groups, private protection companies, informal groups of state security employees, and various semi-autonomous armed formations attached to the state power ministries. In the mid-1990s up to 70% of all contracts were enforced without any participation from state organs. Volkov shows that after the adoption in March 1992 of the Law On Private Protection and Detective Activity in the Russian Federation, legal private protection companies -- set up by former state security and enforcement employees -- entered into direct competition with criminal groups in the market of private protection and enforcement. What had earlier been the realm of criminal gangs selling protection to newly established companies was thus legalized, and scores of private-detective and security firms were formed to perform such duties. Among the new firms were former criminal gangs who now had
