Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
* Аl Воgnеr [01-31-20 17:46]: > Ubuntu 19.10 > darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be > > I updated with this repo from 2.6 to 3.0: > > deb > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/stable/xUbuntu_19.10/ > / > > Bevor I had settings which worked with my UHD-monitor. Now everything > is too big. What do I have to change to get smaller fonts? google provides *many* answers. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Here's a more helpful response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UWKyNX5rgg On 31 January 2020 at 23:16 Patrick Shanahan < p...@opensuse.org> wrote: * Аl Воgnеr < darktable...@corr.eu.org> [01-31-20 17:46]: Ubuntu 19.10 darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be I updated with this repo from 2.6 to 3.0: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/stable/xUbuntu_19.10/ / Bevor I had settings which worked with my UHD-monitor. Now everything is too big. What do I have to change to get smaller fonts? google provides *many* answers. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Hi Al, What you could try: - Install the roboto fonts - Use another theme - Set Custom DPI in darktablerc, eg. screen_dpi_overwrite=120.0 Chris Am 31.01.2020 um 23:42 schrieb Аl Воgnеr: Bevor I had settings which worked with my UHD-monitor. Now everything is too big. What do I have to change to get smaller fonts? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Аl Воgnеr (2020-Jan-31, excerpt):
> Bevor I had settings which worked with my UHD-monitor. Now
> everything is too big. What do I have to change to get smaller
> fonts?
Ignore Patrick.
Create your own style in a .css file under
`~/.config/darktable/themes`, you may have to create this directory.
If you want use an existing style and just add some tweaks, you may
import one. I have in my `~/.config/darktable/themes/mine.css`
@import url("orig/darktable-icons-grey.css");
*
{
font-size: 10pt;
}
and `~/.config/darktable/themes/orig` is a symlink to the directory
where darktable's original CSS files ended up after installation.
Alternatively, you may edit one of the original style files (likely to
be overwritten by the next install), or copy one of them to
`~/.config/darktable/themes/`, using a different name, and edit to
your liking (won't benefit from future changes in the original files).
Then run Darktable, and choose the name of your style file in “⚙ / GUI
options / theme”.
HTH
Stefan
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Hi Chris, Christian (2020-Feb-01, excerpt): > - Set Custom DPI in darktablerc, eg. screen_dpi_overwrite=120.0 would that be the correct approach in case the font size was the only thing I wanted to change? I have no idea, but to me configuration of the screen's DPI sounds quite broad. I wonder what else would be affected? Thanks Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Klinger -- Informatiker, Mathematiker o/X https://stefan-klinger.de /\/ I prefer receiving plain text messages, not exceeding 32kB. \ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Hi, custom DPI is scaling all GUI elements, while CSS font-size mainly affects the font size. What's better? Don't know. Matter of taste... :-) Chris Am 01.02.2020 um 17:53 schrieb dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de: - Set Custom DPI in darktablerc, eg. screen_dpi_overwrite=120.0 would that be the correct approach in case the font size was the only thing I wanted to change? I have no idea, but to me configuration of the screen's DPI sounds quite broad. I wonder what else would be affected? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
On 2/1/20 3:02 PM, Christian wrote: > Hi, custom DPI is scaling all GUI elements, while CSS font-size > mainly affects the font size. > > What's better? Don't know. Matter of taste... :-) Yes, of course. I tried 3.x only briefly and all interface elements and fonts look much too bulky for my taste. Using screen_dpi_overwrite I was able to bring it back to a more economic 2.x looks, without bothering with fonts. Šarūnas darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Christian (2020-Feb-01, excerpt): > custom DPI is scaling all GUI elements, while CSS font-size mainly > affects the font size. Ah, I see... thanks! darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Am Sat, 1 Feb 2020 15:06:49 -0500 schrieb Šarūnas : > On 2/1/20 3:02 PM, Christian wrote: > > Hi, custom DPI is scaling all GUI elements, while CSS font-size > > mainly affects the font size. > > > > What's better? Don't know. Matter of taste... :-) > > Yes, of course. I tried 3.x only briefly and all interface elements > and fonts look much too bulky for my taste. Using > screen_dpi_overwrite I was able to bring it back to a more economic > 2.x looks, without bothering with fonts. > > Šarūnas Thank you all for your answers, I read here of the problem, when people were compiling dt 3, but never thought that a repo-package has not an easy way to set the fonts. Is there a feature request for better setting the font size? I changed already dpi with my XFCE, so this is fine for the most programs, but not all and dt looks now unusable. So modifying dt may be tricky, but now I know the possibilites. Was there a conversion of darktablerc from 2 to 3? Did dt 3 install a fresh darktablerc? Maybe I should start from a default darktablerc. Al darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Аl Воgnеr (2020-Feb-02, excerpt): > I changed already dpi with my XFCE, so this is fine for the most > programs, but not all and dt looks now unusable. I do not know about XFCE, but when you're facing font problems affecting multiple programs, then maybe you need to have a look at fontconfig [1], an unfathomable rabbit hole... I tend to go to the Arch Linux article on that [2] for help (being on Arch), YMMV. > Was there a conversion of darktablerc from 2 to 3? Did dt 3 install a > fresh darktablerc? Maybe I should start from a default darktablerc. At least some things have changed, e.g., the `panels_collapse_controls` are different now, and have not been converted automatically during upgrade (which would be hard to do in general). Darktable really lacks documentation, and I hate staring at videos until the guy finally gets to the point I wanted to know, if ever. One can neither search nor skim-read videos. Cheers Stefan [1]: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/fontconfig/ [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration -- Dr. Stefan Klinger -- Informatiker, Mathematiker o/X https://stefan-klinger.de /\/ I prefer receiving plain text messages, not exceeding 32kB. \ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
> Message du 02/02/20 21:08 > De : dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be > > Аl Воgnеr (2020-Feb-02, excerpt): > > I changed already dpi with my XFCE, so this is fine for the most > > programs, but not all and dt looks now unusable. > > I do not know about XFCE, but when you're facing font problems > affecting multiple programs, then maybe you need to have a look at > fontconfig [1], an unfathomable rabbit hole... I tend to go to the > Arch Linux article on that [2] for help (being on Arch), YMMV. > > > Was there a conversion of darktablerc from 2 to 3? Did dt 3 install a > > fresh darktablerc? Maybe I should start from a default darktablerc. > > At least some things have changed, e.g., the > `panels_collapse_controls` are different now, and have not been > converted automatically during upgrade (which would be hard to do in > general). > > Darktable really lacks documentation, and I hate staring at videos > until the guy finally gets to the point I wanted to know, if ever. > One can neither search nor skim-read videos. > > Cheers > Stefan > > > [1]: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/fontconfig/ > [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration > > > -- > Dr. Stefan Klinger -- Informatiker, Mathematiker o/X > https://stefan-klinger.de /\/ > I prefer receiving plain text messages, not exceeding 32kB. \ > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > Hello, This has been asked many times since 3.0 release. The main and most relevant solution is to edit darktablerc (.config/darktable for Linux, C:\Users\[UserName]\AppData\Local\darktable for Windows) and set screen_dpi_overwrite=65 (seemed to work fine for some others, as for me, but higher values might do it as well). Thanks to the first user thata asked, I could fix this without having to ask myself. ;-) Rgrds, J.-Luc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
> Message du 02/02/20 22:01 > De : "Jean-Luc CECCOLI" > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be > > > [.../...] > > > Hello, > > This has been asked many times since 3.0 release. > The main and most relevant solution is to edit darktablerc (.config/darktable > for Linux, C:\Users\[UserName]\AppData\Local\darktable for Windows) and set > screen_dpi_overwrite=65 (seemed to work fine for some others, as for me, but > higher values might do it as well). > Thanks to the first user thata asked, I could fix this without having to ask > myself. ;-) > > Rgrds, > > J.-Luc Well, it seems that the biggest the screen, the smallest the value. On my Linux system with 32" TV as a monitor, 65 was the good value, while on my Windows system with 24" monitor it was too small and I had to set it to 90. Will re-read the threads about this issue, I maight have missed valuable information. Rgrds, J.-Luc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Am Sat, 1 Feb 2020 17:49:52 +0100
schrieb dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de:
Thanks Stefan!
Just to inform the readers about my simple solution, where you can
replace medit with your editor. I am aware that the solution Stefan
describes has a lot of advantages, but I think I do not need it.
sudo medit /usr/share/darktable/themes/darktable.css
In Ubuntu I changed line 163 to
font-size: 9pt;
It didn't work to change e.g. to 0.5em from 1em, but this is not a
problem. I am happy for the moment.
Is there a possibility to make scrollbars a little bit broader?
Al
> Аl Воgnеr (2020-Jan-31, excerpt):
> > Bevor I had settings which worked with my UHD-monitor. Now
> > everything is too big. What do I have to change to get smaller
> > fonts?
>
> Ignore Patrick.
>
> Create your own style in a .css file under
> `~/.config/darktable/themes`, you may have to create this directory.
> If you want use an existing style and just add some tweaks, you may
> import one. I have in my `~/.config/darktable/themes/mine.css`
>
> @import url("orig/darktable-icons-grey.css");
>
> *
> {
> font-size: 10pt;
> }
>
> and `~/.config/darktable/themes/orig` is a symlink to the directory
> where darktable's original CSS files ended up after installation.
>
> Alternatively, you may edit one of the original style files (likely to
> be overwritten by the next install), or copy one of them to
> `~/.config/darktable/themes/`, using a different name, and edit to
> your liking (won't benefit from future changes in the original files).
>
> Then run Darktable, and choose the name of your style file in “⚙ / GUI
> options / theme”.
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
On 2020-02-08 6:06 p.m., Аl Воgnеr wrote:
> Is there a possibility to make scrollbars a little bit broader?
Which scroll bars do you mean?I'm using Linux and I found that the scroll bars
of the window are part of the window manager setup.
To that end I have
In $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css :-
===
*{
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
-GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
-GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
}
===
Depending on your level of revision this may or may not work for you.
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:13:22 -0500
schrieb Anton Aylward :
Thanks Anton,
I mean the scrollbar in lighttable on the right side or the scrollbar
on the right side when choosing a folder and I have to scroll down. I
I am not happy with the sensitivity of my Logitech G403 mouse, played a
lot with the settings of the mouse and did some configuration with
Windows, normally I use XUbuntu 19.10 (XFCE). Maybe I have to look for
another theme, where the scrollbar has more contrast, an alternative to
a small scrollbar. Sometimes it is hard to scroll down because I am not
in the middle of the scrollbar and nothing happens. This problem exists
since I use an UHD monitor.
Al
> On 2020-02-08 6:06 p.m., Аl Воgnеr wrote:
> > Is there a possibility to make scrollbars a little bit broader?
>
> Which scroll bars do you mean?I'm using Linux and I found that the
> scroll bars of the window are part of the window manager setup.
>
> To that end I have
>
> In $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css :-
>
> ===
> *{
> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
> }
>
> ===
>
> Depending on your level of revision this may or may not work for you.
>
>
>
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
* Аl Воgnеr [02-09-20 17:33]:
> Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:13:22 -0500
> schrieb Anton Aylward :
>
> Thanks Anton,
>
> I mean the scrollbar in lighttable on the right side or the scrollbar
> on the right side when choosing a folder and I have to scroll down. I
> I am not happy with the sensitivity of my Logitech G403 mouse, played a
> lot with the settings of the mouse and did some configuration with
> Windows, normally I use XUbuntu 19.10 (XFCE). Maybe I have to look for
> another theme, where the scrollbar has more contrast, an alternative to
> a small scrollbar. Sometimes it is hard to scroll down because I am not
> in the middle of the scrollbar and nothing happens. This problem exists
> since I use an UHD monitor.
>
> Al
>
> > On 2020-02-08 6:06 p.m., Аl Воgnеr wrote:
> > > Is there a possibility to make scrollbars a little bit broader?
> >
> > Which scroll bars do you mean?I'm using Linux and I found that the
> > scroll bars of the window are part of the window manager setup.
> >
> > To that end I have
> >
> > In $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css :-
> >
> > ===
> > *{
> > -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
> > -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
> > -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
> > -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
> > }
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Depending on your level of revision this may or may not work for you.
> >
> >
> >
there is an aid to scrolling,
so you don't have to be "exactly" positioned on the scrollbar. It works
over the text rather than the scrollbar, maybe both, haven't tried.
but you surely are not selecting directories on the right side
ps: darktable does not use "folders", that's windows.
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:56:06 -0500
schrieb Patrick Shanahan :
> * Аl Воgnеr [02-09-20 17:33]:
> > Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:13:22 -0500
> > schrieb Anton Aylward :
> >
> > Thanks Anton,
> >
> > I mean the scrollbar in lighttable on the right side or the
> > scrollbar on the right side when choosing a folder and I have to
> > scroll down. I I am not happy with the sensitivity of my Logitech
> > G403 mouse, played a lot with the settings of the mouse and did
> > some configuration with Windows, normally I use XUbuntu 19.10
> > (XFCE). Maybe I have to look for another theme, where the scrollbar
> > has more contrast, an alternative to a small scrollbar. Sometimes
> > it is hard to scroll down because I am not in the middle of the
> > scrollbar and nothing happens. This problem exists since I use an
> > UHD monitor.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > > On 2020-02-08 6:06 p.m., Аl Воgnеr wrote:
> > > > Is there a possibility to make scrollbars a little bit broader?
> > >
> > > Which scroll bars do you mean?I'm using Linux and I found that the
> > > scroll bars of the window are part of the window manager setup.
> > >
> > > To that end I have
> > >
> > > In $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css :-
> > >
> > > ===
> > > *{
> > > -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
> > > -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
> > > -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
> > > -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
> > > }
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > Depending on your level of revision this may or may not work for
> > > you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> there is an aid to scrolling,
>
>
> so you don't have to be "exactly" positioned on the scrollbar. It
> works over the text rather than the scrollbar, maybe both, haven't
> tried.
>
> but you surely are not selecting directories on the right side
>
> ps: darktable does not use "folders", that's windows.
Patrick, the mouse wheel works and there is no difference, if I press
ctrl or alt or both. With a lot directories ;-) the wheel is not
comfortable too. Imagine I have 100s of directories and I have to
choose one in the last third.
BTW, can you explain the difference between folder and directory, for a
non-native English speaker I cannot see a difference. At the end it
counts for me, that it does what I want.
Al
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
* Аl Воgnеr [02-09-20 19:41]:
> Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:56:06 -0500
> schrieb Patrick Shanahan :
>
> > * Аl Воgnеr [02-09-20 17:33]:
> > > Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:13:22 -0500
> > > schrieb Anton Aylward :
> > >
> > > Thanks Anton,
> > >
> > > I mean the scrollbar in lighttable on the right side or the
> > > scrollbar on the right side when choosing a folder and I have to
> > > scroll down. I I am not happy with the sensitivity of my Logitech
> > > G403 mouse, played a lot with the settings of the mouse and did
> > > some configuration with Windows, normally I use XUbuntu 19.10
> > > (XFCE). Maybe I have to look for another theme, where the scrollbar
> > > has more contrast, an alternative to a small scrollbar. Sometimes
> > > it is hard to scroll down because I am not in the middle of the
> > > scrollbar and nothing happens. This problem exists since I use an
> > > UHD monitor.
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > > On 2020-02-08 6:06 p.m., Аl Воgnеr wrote:
> > > > > Is there a possibility to make scrollbars a little bit broader?
> > > >
> > > > Which scroll bars do you mean?I'm using Linux and I found that the
> > > > scroll bars of the window are part of the window manager setup.
> > > >
> > > > To that end I have
> > > >
> > > > In $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css :-
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > > *{
> > > > -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
> > > > -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
> > > > -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
> > > > -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > Depending on your level of revision this may or may not work for
> > > > you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > there is an aid to scrolling,
> >
> >
> > so you don't have to be "exactly" positioned on the scrollbar. It
> > works over the text rather than the scrollbar, maybe both, haven't
> > tried.
> >
> > but you surely are not selecting directories on the right side
> >
> > ps: darktable does not use "folders", that's windows.
>
> Patrick, the mouse wheel works and there is no difference, if I press
> ctrl or alt or both. With a lot directories ;-) the wheel is not
> comfortable too. Imagine I have 100s of directories and I have to
> choose one in the last third.
and they are displayed on the RIGHT ???
ctrl or alt will NOT work, requires
but, if we are talking about the "collect images" window on the LEFT, just
rolling the mouse-wheel works, is/are not required.
> BTW, can you explain the difference between folder and directory, for a
> non-native English speaker I cannot see a difference. At the end it
> counts for me, that it does what I want.
a directory is a container for files while a folder is for paper or
micro$oft speakers.
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
When I right mouse click on my XFCE desktop (or in my File Manager) it
offers the option of creating a new Folder (not Directory). Maybe it is
different on Patrick's system!
On 2020-02-09 6:57 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Аl Воgnеr [02-09-20 19:41]:
Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:56:06 -0500
schrieb Patrick Shanahan :
* Аl Воgnеr [02-09-20 17:33]:
Am Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:13:22 -0500
schrieb Anton Aylward :
Thanks Anton,
I mean the scrollbar in lighttable on the right side or the
scrollbar on the right side when choosing a folder and I have to
scroll down. I I am not happy with the sensitivity of my Logitech
G403 mouse, played a lot with the settings of the mouse and did
some configuration with Windows, normally I use XUbuntu 19.10
(XFCE). Maybe I have to look for another theme, where the scrollbar
has more contrast, an alternative to a small scrollbar. Sometimes
it is hard to scroll down because I am not in the middle of the
scrollbar and nothing happens. This problem exists since I use an
UHD monitor.
Al
On 2020-02-08 6:06 p.m., Аl Воgnеr wrote:
Is there a possibility to make scrollbars a little bit broader?
Which scroll bars do you mean?I'm using Linux and I found that the
scroll bars of the window are part of the window manager setup.
To that end I have
In $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css :-
===
*{
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
-GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
-GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
}
===
Depending on your level of revision this may or may not work for
you.
there is an aid to scrolling,
so you don't have to be "exactly" positioned on the scrollbar. It
works over the text rather than the scrollbar, maybe both, haven't
tried.
but you surely are not selecting directories on the right side
ps: darktable does not use "folders", that's windows.
Patrick, the mouse wheel works and there is no difference, if I press
ctrl or alt or both. With a lot directories ;-) the wheel is not
comfortable too. Imagine I have 100s of directories and I have to
choose one in the last third.
and they are displayed on the RIGHT ???
ctrl or alt will NOT work, requires
but, if we are talking about the "collect images" window on the LEFT, just
rolling the mouse-wheel works, is/are not required.
BTW, can you explain the difference between folder and directory, for a
non-native English speaker I cannot see a difference. At the end it
counts for me, that it does what I want.
a directory is a container for files while a folder is for paper or
micro$oft speakers.
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Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
On 10/02/2020 07:12, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > When I right mouse click on my XFCE desktop (or in my File Manager) it > offers the option of creating a new Folder (not Directory). Maybe it is > different on Patrick's system! The reason is that certain window systems try to be like MS-Windows. Sad but true. The correct term is "directory", even Microsoft knows that, the command line on all MS-Systems requires "mkdir" or "cd" (for change directory), and you list the contents of a directory with "dir" (and not with "folder" (*)). This applies since MS-DOS had a hierarchical file system until today. (*) of course listing it by using its name is confusing, it's MS, eventually (**). The intuitive command for "list" is "ls", of course. But nobody expects and MS product to be intuitive, some people just get used to it. (**) But ok, also VMS (on a VAX) did that... Best regards, Michael -- Michael Staats michael.sta...@gmx.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
On Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 22:23, Michael Staats wrote: > On 10/02/2020 07:12, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > When I right mouse click on my XFCE desktop (or in my File Manager) it > > offers the option of creating a new Folder (not Directory). Maybe it is > > different on Patrick's system! > > The reason is that certain window systems try to be like MS-Windows. Sad > but true. I'm not sure how this became a topic for this list, but the following is my attempt to put it to rest (not to perpetuate it!): A directory is a feature of a filesystem, which does just what the name implies: listing of filenames and information related to accessing them. A "folder" is a common feature of many modern graphical shells. It represents to the user something you can use in a certain way as a receptacle for dragging or "pasting" graphically represented files, as well as for accessing them. The thing behind the "folder" is often a directory, but by now may also be any sort of "virtual directory" for some other (possibly network related) purpose... the important thing is that it represents a *mode of use* to users of graphical shells. Due to the overwhelming use of this analogy, it may sometimes be used to refer to directories even without the specific context of a graphical shell, but for native speakers at least, the actual meaning is very easily understood. -- jys darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
> Message du 10/02/20 03:57 > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be > > > [.../...] > > > a directory is a container for files while a folder is for paper or > micro$oft speakers. > +1 ;-) darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fontsize with darktable 3.0.0~git325.4538201be
Anton Aylward (2020-Feb-09, excerpt): > Which scroll bars do you mean?I'm using Linux and I found that the > scroll bars of the window are part of the window manager setup. AFAIK, Scrollbars of a program are not managed by the window manager. They are governed by the toolkit (e.g., GTK). The program producing the window, and the window manager, *may* use the same toolkit, and your desktop environment *may* provide a means to modify its configuration. -- https://stefan-klinger.de o/X I prefer receiving plain text messages, not exceeding 32kB./\/ \ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
